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Hello, America. I want to talk to you a little bit about the big, beautiful bill and what nobody else will tell you. I want to explain this from start to finish, what Trump is trying to do, what he has to do, what Congress has to do, and what you need to be aware of because there's a good chance our lifestyle as we know it is over.

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All right, I want to talk to you about the big, beautiful bill, but I want to talk to you instead of all of the politics going around it. I want you to understand what we are facing right now.

What we are facing right now is a collapse of, you know, of our economy collapse. You know, they will say that, you know, what's coming is a collapse that is going to be worse than 2008. I believe and I could be wrong. Remember, I'm a optimistic catastrophist. I believe that it doesn't have to be this way. But we are we are looking at losing the the dollar.

And it's going to happen fast. How do people go bankrupt? Over a long period of time and then all of a sudden. And the all of a sudden part is coming our way.

Now, the majority of Americans feel that the country is headed in the right direction, and I believe it is. But what we're looking at is a really difficult situation. So let me ask you, how did we become the world's leading economy? What did we have that others didn't have? Because it was very easy. And I want you to make a checklist in your own mind. This is what we used to have. We had cheap energy, cheap labor,

educated labor. We had small business entrepreneurs. We had individual inventors that were in their garage or their barn. We had ingenuity. We had low regulation, a cohesive society that was built around stable laws and a stable government.

That's what it took for us to become the leader of the world. Now, let's go through those and see how many of these we have or are on the road to repairing. Cheap energy. Yes, I think we didn't have that, but yes, we are doing it now. Cheap labor. I don't know how to do that one. Educated labor. Well, as soon as we get rid of all of the DEI crap that's going on, yeah, I think we could maybe...

Re-educate ourselves. Small businesses. No, small businesses are being choked by taxes and regulations. Individual inventors. Not really. Everything's being gobbled up by big ed and big government. Ingenuity.

Well, ingenuity happens when you don't have DEI, you don't have all of these things, regulations, and when you have tax cuts and people realize, I can do this and I can actually make more money and I can get ahead. That's when ingenuity, in America at least, goes on, and I don't think we're there yet.

Low regulation. No, the answer to this is not in the big beautiful bill. The answer to this is in the RAINS Act. And you will see by the end of this monologue, that is the most important thing we could do. A cohesive society. I don't know. That's our job. Are you feeling like you're making inroads on that one? And stable laws and government. Well, that is the DOJ. That is the FBI. That is restoring trust in our institutions. Are we doing that?

Well, I think this is one of the reasons why people think that we are on the right track because, yeah, we're starting to see it, but we're making some real mistakes there as well. And that has to happen. That's why Donald Trump, I mean, if you look at these, you can understand why Donald Trump has the agenda that he has. He's got to repair these things. Now, the old way of fixing an economy is,

Because you are now in trouble, right? I mean, we know that the business in America is not good. The dollar is not good. Our debt is not good. But people don't really understand why it is so bad.

Well, let me show you. Remember, I told you at some point it was right after 2008. I said they're going to start printing money and they're going to tell you that they're not printing money. They're digitizing money. And everything I said that they would do and they denied that they would do, they did. And I said that would lead to inflation, which it did.

Our government debt would explode, which it did. And our dollar would lose value and eventually lose its place. They would start to degrade, I mean, sorry, downgrade our dollar status, which they are doing now. And then eventually we lose the reserve dollar, the currency for the reserve. And everybody said that would never, ever happen. And now look at where we are. Okay.

In the years when I was growing up, how did you fix an economy? Well, the government could step in and they would cut taxes. But when they cut taxes and not cut spending, that increases debt. Then you have the Fed lower the interest rates.

That helps people have cheaper money to be able to take loans and start businesses, etc., etc. But instead, what our people did is they just gave zero interest rates. So all of the big corporations just took on all kinds of debt, but they didn't have to worry about it because they didn't have any interest payments.

So they just took on all kinds of debt that inflated our dollar by pumping all of that money in. It inflated our dollar. So if you lower the interest rates, you have debt. You have things like QE, quantitative easing, which puts debt on the Fed. And you have inflation, which is our biggest problem.

Then the other thing you would do is you would do a stimulus package. Have you noticed that this is the first time in American history, this administration that I know of, that nobody's talking about a big, beautiful stimulus package? Why? Because a big, beautiful stimulus package, that doesn't work anymore because all it's doing is adding money to the debt system.

And then the last thing you would do if you were a conservative is you would cut regulation. Now, we can't do tax cuts. He's doing. But is he doing the tax cuts in a way that are I mean, he's just holding the tax cuts. Right. We're not getting new tax cuts. Why? Because it will increase the debt.

So we're doing the same tax cuts, just making them permanent. So your tax is not going to change. That does not help spur the economy, but it does help stabilize the economy.

But he is then take taxes and he is saying, hey, no tax on tips. He needs he's giving tax cuts to the people at the lowest level of the economy. That's not going to spur on the economy. However, because of all the other problems, it's really important because the people at the bottom of the ladder are really struggling and they have to have relief.

So a way to do that is give them tax cuts, some sort of tax relief, because you can't do a stimulus package. So let's try this and hope that people spend that money wisely. Okay.

The other thing that you do when you have a troubled economy like we have had in the past, and we do now, is you look for a black swan event. You look for a game changer out on the horizon, something that is going to change everything. Sometimes that's war. Sometimes that's an invention. But what will change everything to refigure the economy? Okay, so now let me tell you this.

Why the president is doing what he is doing with a big, beautiful bill. Everybody is arguing that we have to cut the deficit. Everybody is saying there's no debt reduction here and we have to have debt reduction. That is great. And you're right. We absolutely do. I am with you 110%. We cannot continue spending this way.

Now, let's look at the other side. Why wouldn't you cut the debt? Well, there's a couple of reasons. You don't think it's a problem. Nobody with a brain doesn't think it's a problem now. And that may explain a lot of what's happening in Washington, because I'm not sure. They may be sharing one or two brains between the whole lot of them in Congress. But you know that this is a problem. Okay.

So you don't care that it's a problem. That's another one. You don't care that it's a problem. You just think it will go on forever and the sun is shining right now. So I'm going to, I'm just going to keep spending and I just going to just put my head in the sand and it doesn't matter because the United States is an oppressor anyway. And yada, yada, whatever your reason is, you don't care. You recognize the problem, but you don't care. That's the second reason. There is another reason why not to cut the debt.

And it is one that is very hard for Americans to understand. But I take you back, if you're my age, to Ronald Reagan saying, when this debt gets to a point to where we are spending more on interest than we are on our national defense, there will be no good options left. We are here. There are no good options left. The other reason why you don't cut the budget is

You look for ways to spur the economy on. You don't cut the budget at least radically at all because right now, you ready for this one? It's not going to improve your mood. The U.S. government and the budget, what we spend every year, now accounts for 25% of GDP. So if you want to cut the budget, let's say we just cut it in half, which Coolidge did.

That means that we take 12 cents out of every dollar that is being spent and used in America. We take 12 cents out of the economy. Now, we're going to have to do it at some point, but how are you going to do that? Because that'll hurt the GDP.

You will reduce the GDP. Once you reduce the GDP, then you have problems again with the budget, the taxes, and interest rates. So you have to spur the economy on before you start dramatically cutting the budget. Now, if your mood didn't improve when I said your GDP is now 25% of federal spending, let me include the state and local spending.

So when you include the tax money that is being spent now, your dollars that are being spent in our economy, and you include the federal government spending, the state spending, and the local spending, the good news is it might be at times as low as 34%, but it's much closer to 45% of our GDP.

So almost half of our spending, almost half of our gross domestic product, meaning what we build, what we buy, almost half of it is being spent and purchased by our government. So you cannot cut the budget quickly, dramatically, but you must cut the budget or we collapse. Do you see what Ronald Reagan was saying? We're in a place where there are no good options.

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If we do not do the things we must do now, and I'm going to give that list to you here. In fact, let me do that now. The number one thing that everybody should be asking for in this big, beautiful bill is not necessarily more cuts. I'd like more cuts.

But remember, we have to spur on the economy. How do we do that? We have to stabilize our laws, make sure that we are focusing on education. This is a longer term thing, the education. Stabilizing our laws to make sure they apply to everyone equally.

Do the exact opposite of what New York did when they went after Donald Trump's business, even though other businesses do exactly the same thing. You cannot have a growing economy if you don't have stable laws. So you have to strengthen the DOJ and the FBI. President Trump is doing that. You do have to cut, but you have to cut strategically. That's what Doge was doing. Congress is not doing their part by even passing the minimum tax

of what Doge did. That's Congress's fault. Then you need the REINS Act because the biggest thing that will spur on the economy that we can actually do, we can't cut taxes anymore. We can't cut the budget dramatically, which we have to do. So what do we do? We've already lowered the cost of energy dramatically.

We're already getting foreign investment, which will help us reshore for our workers. That's longer term. We have the game changer. It's AI. Here's what we don't have. Low regulation. We have to have low regulation. So I want you to call Congress and the Senate and say, put the RAINS Act in the big, beautiful bill.

Because then you don't have to keep going over and over and again and saying, well, will the Supreme Court allow us to do this? Well, did Congress pass that money, et cetera, et cetera. It puts the power back where it belongs in Congress for all of these regulations. And it defangs this out-of-control, bloated government.

Because it requires that Congress passes all of the regulations. Well, they're not going to pass a lot of them, are they? That's why they got rid of them. This is a Woodrow Wilson progressive tool. Get rid of it, make it an administrative state. The REINS Act is imperative. You want to survive? Pass the REINS Act.

It is the only tool that we have that will have positive consequences. And I can't think of any negative consequences because we restore the power of

the way it is in the Constitution, and we cut all of the insane regulation quickly, which spurs on growth. That's what Donald Trump is trying to do. He's like, we cannot cut our way out of this debt. We have to grow our way out of this debt and then begin to cut.

This is why the tariffs, this is his logic on the tariffs. I'm going to get foreigners to pay taxes so we can put that in. I don't believe in that, but he does. That's what he's trying to do. Everything he's trying to do makes sense if you understand the problems that we have. You may not agree with the solutions, but at least somebody is pursuing a solution.

You know, there was a great article out today, and we put it in the prep because it is so, so, so, so, so, so important. It's from Victor Davis Hanson.

And he says, look, historically, if you don't fix this now, historically, he said, from Greece to Rome through the Middle Ages to the Renaissance, there are only three ways of dealing with unsustainable debt, and none of them are good. They're all civilizational killers. Number one, the Weimar Republic did it in Germany. You pay back what you owe in cheap dollars. You inflate the dollar.

And then you bankrupt what really helped cause the depression. You can do that. You can pay back the $37 trillion in inflated dollars. It's just not good. It is the Weimar Republic.

Number two, you can confiscate private wealth. People do that all the time throughout history. This destroys the legitimacy of the government. It makes private investors hide their money. Confiscate the wealth. You're already seeing leftists say that that is exactly what we have to do. It never works. Never works. It didn't work in Athens. It didn't work in Rome. It didn't work in Renaissance Italy. It doesn't work.

And the last one is the most drastic, and it's a killer too. South America has tried this one, and it's just redoubts the debt. Just say, you know what? Guys, we're not going to pay you back. All three of those are civilization killers. So pay attention to this because your lifestyle is about to change. This is Glenn Beck.

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Well, the head of Hamas, Sinwar, according to Benjamin Netanyahu, has just been killed. He's meeting with his 70 virgins now. I hope they're all ugly and complainers and very, very controlling. I hope they make Mrs. Macron look like a sweetheart and a lovely, lovely lady. Anyway, so he's out. We've been talking about what's going on in Congress now and the Senate with

the big beautiful bill. Let me switch gears here because I said one of the things you have to do to repair the economy is to fix the rule of law. We must have a consistent rule of law or we will not have an economy. We won't have a civilization.

The congressman from Kentucky, James Comer, is with us now. We want to talk about the cover-up and the investigation that he is overseeing right now on what happened with the auto pin, what happened with...

the president who is actually running the White House and why this matters. He represents Kentucky's first congressional district, serves as the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability, where he aggressively advocates for reducing waste, fraud, and abuse in government. Welcome, Congressman. How are you, sir? I'm great. Thanks for having me on.

Good. Your investigation has shown us now that there may be as many as three, more than that, but three in like a little cabal that were kind of orchestrating the use of the auto pin for key executive actions and pardons. Can you confirm whether you have any evidence identifying a person or persons?

Yeah, we have three – we have very good sources that point to four staffers, most of whom no one's ever heard of, that were the ones who actually operated the auto pen. Remember, even if Joe Biden was on the top of his game, and even if he were authorized in the use of his signature on an auto pen, he's not the person that would take the document and

and put it in the auto pen and press the power button. We've identified the four staffers. We're fairly certain these are the four staffers that actually put the auto pen in operation. We're bringing them in. We've asked them to come in voluntarily, which that's the process to do a subpoena if necessary.

Thursday is the deadline for their response. We've given them a week to respond and lawyer up and all that. If they do not respond or if they say no, then they will get a subpoena the very next day from me, and they will have to come in for a full-blown deposition. We want to find out the process, who gave them the authority to use the auto pen, who were they talking to. Then the next step,

will probably be the names, you know, like Klein and the people, maybe Joe Biden, the people that are in the news as who everyone suspects were possibly running the White House. This is important because so much was done in the last 100 days of the Biden administration from an executive order standpoint. They Trump-proofed the government.

They Trump-proofed the government with the auto pen. And then we all know about the pardons, but just the executive orders alone, these are given the Trump administration fits in court, like when he's trying to bring the federal employees back to work.

You know, that Joe Biden on a pen signed an executive order in the end saying they could continue to work from home and gave them collective bargaining rights and everything else. These are issues that are blocking the Trump agenda in court and things that we think should be invalid because they weren't legitimately signed by the president of the United States. And furthermore, this investigation may reveal the president of the United States didn't even know anything about these executive orders.

So I've heard that we have a whistleblower at a very high level of the Democratic Party that has blown the whistle on a little cabal inside the White House. That actually what I heard was that some people in the White House had figured out a way to monetize the

the auto pen. Is any of that true? We don't know, but that will be a line of questioning, especially when you get to the pardons. Remember, everyone knows about the pardons for the Biden family as a result of our investigation, but they pardoned thousands of people. Some of them were murderers and rapists.

Some were legitimate pardons, but when you're talking about thousands of pardons, who vetted them? Who gave them the authority? And the auto-penn was used in every one of those pardons. Outside of the Hunter Biden pardon, it looks like the auto-penn was used on every single pardon issued by this president. And

You know, there's rumors that there were people that were monetizing that. I don't know, but we're going to try to find out. But I'll tell you this, a lot has come out in the last three weeks. We've been waiting on this. We've been waiting on this Tapper book. We have been waiting for this Tapper book for a while because we knew that

that he had sources inside the White House that spilled the beans on Joe Biden's mental incapacity. So this has helped fuel momentum for the investigation. More evidence has surfaced. So we're trying to go from there. So what specific legal or constitutional violations do you believe the auto pen violates?

may have breached and...

How serious is this? Well, first of all, yeah, it's very serious because, first of all, you have to physically sign anything pertaining to the law. I have to sign subpoenas. I have an auto-penn. Everybody in Congress has an auto-penn. Use an auto-penn to sign proclamations and mass letters and newsletters and things like that.

But wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Didn't we in 2000, I don't know, 10, Barack Obama, maybe eight, Barack Obama's in Hawaii and it was the first authorized use of the auto pen for an executive order or law or something. So did that not change? Was that a one-time only thing? You know, our lawyers...

say you have to sign anything pertaining to the law. You have to physically sign it. If Obama had a situation where he was in another country and something had to go out, I don't think anyone would challenge that. But to use the auto pen for everything

for the last at least 100 days of the administration when you have so much activity. You know, this wasn't a natural disaster and you had to do an executive order to get food to people who were starving to death after a tornado in Kentucky or anything. This is, you know, Trump-proofing the...

the the next administration to where you can't eliminate the department of education because you can't fire those employees you can't make the employees have to come back to work you're you're given a more right to work from home uh... where where you you you signed a date order said oh you've got to pay the student loan debt off when the list goes on and on the whole and my whole family their pardon by the way you can't you can't prosecute them they've they've uh... you know they've there get that job so so

So these are the kind of things, if I have a subpoena, I have to fly back to Washington to sign it, or we have to overnight it. I mean, there's a million things that you have to do and have to get it notarized and all this other stuff. This was not legal.

There's no way these will hold up in court, especially if there's no evidence that Joe Biden gave the order to use the auto pen. And we have found no evidence, whether it were emails or anything, that said Joe Biden said, yes, I want to find that executive order, or I want to find that pardon, and

just go ahead and get the document and put it in the auto pin remember he spent very few days the last one hundred days in the white house he was in delaware bring you know going between his two mansions on the beach he he was not in the white house so there's there's a lot of evidence that that

that's going to be hard for the Democrats and their friends in the left-wing media to try to spin that Joe Biden was actually running the show. And if you're in the White House, if you're giving the orders, why not just sign it there? Why do you have to use the auto pen?

You sent letters to the personal physicians as well as multiple advisors. Were we going to hear from the physician? I mean, you know, we all suspected the president was not actually running things. We have to know his, you know, his background.

the real truth about his mental capacity towards the end, which would also strengthen the case that he didn't have any idea about the auto pin. These weren't things that were coming from him. He was probably, you know, like Edith Wilson did with her husband shoved underneath a hand or use, you know, shoved into the auto pin and signed without him really being cognitively able to understand what he's signing. Uh,

Yeah, and that's obviously why we're bringing the physician in. We have a lot of questions. We're going to consult with Ronnie Jackson. If Ronnie is available, I'd love to have him in for that interview or deposition, whatever it turns into, because he was the White House physician under Trump. And I think that he...

he has a lot of insight. I've watched several of his interviews. So he knows exactly what's expected of the White House position. I mean, this Dr. O'Connor, he better be on the top of his game because we have his predecessor,

in Congress, who's been very critical of a lot of the statements that Dr. O'Connor put out praising Joe Biden and his health, and that comes out that he's got stage 3 prostate cancer, and they're trying to say, well, we never tested him for prostate cancer. I mean, that's just not...

I mean, I'm 52. I get tested for prostate cancer every six months. So we're talking to Congressman Comer, who is Kentucky's congressman from the 1st District. He also is the chairman of the House Committee on Oversight and Accountability.

The thing that I think most Americans want to see is not just the uncovering of the truth, but actually consequences. If this were happening, are people going to jail?

For doing this, this is a I mean, we just heard from Jake Tapper's book again just yesterday or day before that, you know, they there was they were calling themselves the Politburo, that there were there was a few of them, three or four of them that were just saying we're running it now. And if he's reelected, we'll still run it. That that's not constitutional.

It's not constitutional. If I, as a member of Congress or chairman of the Oversight Committee, could put people in jail, I would have put some of the Biden family members in jail. We investigate, and then we turn over the results of our investigation to the Attorney General. So that question should be asked to Pam Bondi. We certainly hope...

that she holds people accountable. We're still optimistic that she will hold people accountable from investigations of the Biden influence peddling. Jim Jordan and I have led three or four investigations where we believe that people should be held accountable for things that were done in the last administration. So again, if I could put people in jail, I would do it. Of course, if the Democrats...

when they were in charge of congress if adam shift could put people in jail he would have put he would have put uh... jim jordan and don't carry a dot on top and deal with the could have right i mean i i want the system to work the way it should i'm glad i don't have value of the power to put people in jail and that goes for the deal jay but uh... the deal jay if there are actual crimes committed i can't think of a higher crime then usurping the power of the president of the united states in hiding the fact that he's not actually making the decisions are running the country

That is, in my view, that is a very high crime. And it's the biggest scandal in the history of America. If you have three or four bureaucrats, like what Tapper is alleging, that were never elected, that no one ever heard of them, and I'm pretty involved in things in Washington, and they're running the country? I mean, that is a bad deal.

Congressman, thank you so much. Thanks for spending some time with us and explaining what's going on in Congress and best of luck to you. When do you expect an answer? They have to answer by tomorrow before you subpoena them.

By tomorrow, if they don't, they know the next step subpoena. We've been very clear about that. And that's the process. So we're starting with them. We'll see where the trail leads. I fully expect every name that Jake Tapper has alleged in his book. We're running the country as well as some others that many on conservative media suspect we're running the country. I fully expect to hear from them all over the next few weeks, hopefully. Good.

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He's the author of "Indoctrinating Our Children." We have had him on several times. But he's also somebody that used to live in South Africa. And so he has seen what is going on. And he's going to explain what's happening in South Africa like you've not heard before. But I want to share one thing that he wrote. Let me give you this paragraph so you understand. "Newman fears America is much closer to a violent takeover attempt by the deep state.

He says the leftists, the totalitarians, the people that want to do to us what they're doing to South Africans right now, they want a civil war in America. And a lot of people on our side do not see this. They don't realize the very dangerous forces that are being unleashed all across the country.

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Alex, welcome to the program. Great to be here. Thank you for having me.

Yeah, thank you so much for taking this stand and saying the things that really I don't think anybody is going to reward you for or even thank you for. And in many cases, I think I fear it will fall on deaf ears. And what we're talking about is the situation in South Africa. Everybody's focused on white genocide here.

But it is much, much, much, much, much deeper than just that. It seems to me...

Robert Mugabe in Rhodesia when I was young, he took over. It was the breadbasket of Africa. He took it over, destroyed it, slaughtered people, became a horrible communist monster, and the world just stood there and watched. And I think we're going through the same thing now in South Africa. But you say this is the beginning of it. What's happening there is going to happen here. So let's go.

Let's start with your credentials on how do you know about South Africa?

Well, thank you, Glenn. And I actually moved there on the day of my 18th birthday. It's a long story, but I had a lot of money. I lived outside the United States, didn't want to come back. And so I just moved down there. I was young, dumb. I didn't know the Lord, but gave me a firsthand look at what was going on. I traveled all through the country and all through the region. And it was already bad at that time. It wasn't like what they're dealing with today, but it was already getting bad. And just by talking to people, you know, I wasn't a Christian. I wasn't even especially conservative.

But just by talking to people, you could get a sense of the hatred, of the division. You could see the infrastructure crumbling. You could see, I mean, everything was collapsing. Life expectancy collapsed more than 10 years in the immediate aftermath of the fall of the former apartheid government. So it was already bad. But it wasn't until I got back to the United States and started in journalism that I really started digging into the root of this.

And what was really a turning point for me, Glenn, because I had heard all this living down there, but I wasn't quite sure what to make of it. But the turning point for me was in 2012 when a lot of people I knew from South Africa contacted me. An individual by the name of Gregory Stanton, Dr. Gregory Stanton, he's the founder of Genocide Watch. He was an anti-apartheid activist, so nobody could accuse him of being a racist or an apartheid supporter.

He went down there on a fact-finding mission, and he had at that time a genocide scale with eight stages. And after his fact-finding mission, he concluded that South Africa was at stage six at that time. Six was the planning and preparation stage, seven was the extermination phase, eight was denial after the fact.

And the evidence that he used was available to anybody. I mean, I could see it. People were sending this to me. The president of the country at that time, the polygamist pagan ruler Jacob Zuma, was on TV singing, bring me my machine gun. We're going to shoot all the Boers. You had the head of the ANC youth league at that time, Julius Malema. Donald Trump just showed his video in the Oval Office last week.

saying, kill the boar. We're going to kill the farmers. So all that... Hang on. Hey, stop, stop, stop, stop, stop. So before you go on, could you explain, because what the New York Times said was, you're just ignorant of all history if you think that's what that means. That's just a historic song. You know, I don't care what the Klan was singing in 1860. If they're singing it, you know, in front of thousands today, I take it as the same way they meant it in 1860. Can you just clear that up?

Yeah, and I think the New York Times is being deliberately dishonest here. And I think also the effort to frame this in pure, no, that would never happen, right? They didn't try to cover up the genocide that Stalin unleashed against the Ukrainians by the Russians. They've got a long list

history of this. They painted Fidel Castro as a freedom fighter and the George Washington of Latin America. They've got a very long history of this, but, uh, the, the history of South Africa is very complicated and everybody needs to acknowledge that, but these are genocide songs. We need to be very clear. These are songs, uh, aimed at promoting hatred and ultimately the extermination of this particular people group that is, uh,

identifiable by its culture, by its language, by its Christian heritage. It is a nation in the true sense of the term. And so as I was seeing all this, I said, I have to do something about this. You're right, Glenn, it was terribly unpopular. I got called names and things like this. But I did a cover story in the New American Magazine 2012

called Genocide and Communism Threatened South Africa. And I did a companion piece for it, South African Communists Friends in High Places, where I showed the role of people like Henry Kissinger and David Rockefeller in bringing this situation about. And the reason it's so important, Glenn, and I hope we can get into this a little bit more, the reason it's so important for Americans to understand this

is this is the model and the plan they have for you. The Boers, the Afrikaners, they're the Afrikaners because they came from Holland and Denmark and Germany and France to Africa. We are the Amerikaners, that's what they call us, because we went to America. Our histories are very closely paralleled

They diverge, of course, when the Afrikaners fought against the British Empire, they lost. They were trying to preserve the independence of their little republics down there, the Orange Free State and the ZAR. When we fought the British Empire, we won. But other than that, our history, I mean, they are the closest thing we have to cousins anywhere in the world. And what is happening is a microcosm of what they want to do to the United States and the broader Christian West. And they're even using the same tactics. So go through that.

What are the tactics that they're using? Well, there are several. First and foremost, I would say the racial division and the effort to paint the target group as some sort of individual.

innately horrible, evil group of people. And as somebody who has been all over the world, who's lived outside the United States almost my entire life, who goes to these UN conferences, I can tell you that's happening right this moment. They are painting Americans as a danger to the world, right? Where climate criminals, now Donald Trump is pulling out of all these climate agreements,

We are a threat to the world. We're getting out of the World Health Organization. We're these greedy, selfish Americans. We don't want to share our medicine. We just want to steal money from all the whole world. The colonialism, of course, the racial narrative, the same racial narrative is actually being used against Americans right now overseas. Americans are these racist yahoos who built a system on white supremacy. We abuse the Indians and

we don't deserve to exist and they show things like for example george floyd and they look at that in foreign newspapers they think wow america is this terrible white supremacist evil society that needs to be dismantled and then you look at the actual tactics for how they waged the war within south africa very similar to what's happening now people pouring across the border intelligence operatives from east germany from the soviet union from mozambique from angola from libya from cuba you name it

training terrorist cadres, engaging in terrorist acts. And we haven't seen anything like what South Africa has seen, to be clear. In the 70s, we saw a little taste of that with Barack Obama's buddy Bill Ayers when he and his minions were bombing the State Department, bombing the Pentagon, bombing the Capitol, murdering police officers, and then bombing their funerals. They realized that was not going to be a successful tactic at that time, but they will come back to that if and when they think the time is right. And I think they think that the time is almost right.

I think you're exactly right. I mean, I did a special last week, Alex, on what is the left planning? Because none of the things that they're doing right now are lining up with the mood of America. They are going more radical, more dangerous, more violent, more

And it's being encouraged by the leaders of the far left in the Democratic Party. And most Democrats and I think most Americans are just going, oh, well, it's a crazy left. No, no, no. This is the exact opposite of what you do if you're trying to win elections. This is what you do if you're trying to create civil unrest and possible civil war.

That's exactly right, Glenn. And then all you have to do is look at the rhetoric, right? I mean, at this point, they're not even hiding it anymore. How could we forget Jamie Raskin talking about blocking Trump, even if it led to civil war conditions? I mean, those were his words, not mine. A member of Congress, a prominent Democrat,

advocating resistance to Trump, even if it meant civil war-like conditions. You look at the way some of these members of Congress are talking, some of the way these Democrat mayors and Democrat governors are talking. And I think a lot of conservative Americans are kind of insulated from this, Glenn. You know, they go to church, they hang out with their social circle, their family. They don't realize the rage that is being...

stirred up and fomented deliberately on the other side, sometimes with blatant lies and fake news. Sometimes they take the grain of truth and blow it all out of proportion. But they are stirring people up into a blind rage. And they're telling these people, I mean, their term is Trump is literally Hitler. And if he's literally Hitler and his supporters are literally supporting a Hitler,

Anything is justified to stop them. So we are, I think, headed to some very dangerous territory here. And I think your average conservative American is clueless about what's coming. So tell me, do they have a deep state in South Africa?

They do. And it's actually intimately intertwined with our deep state here. That companion article that I mentioned earlier, South African communist friends in high places, what I showed is that subversives within our own State Department were building up the deep state there. Now, let's go back a little bit further. First, we start with the Soviet Union, because a lot of this had its roots in Moscow.

The South African Communist Party was the first major communist party that the Soviets set up outside of the Soviet Union. It was, for all intents and purposes, a tentacle of the Soviet Communist Party. And what's really interesting, Glenn, this is one of the ways you know this is not a racial issue, right? The issue is never the issue. It's always the revolution. The original slogan of the Communist Party in South Africa was, whites unite to keep South Africa white. Wow.

Absolutely. They only adopted the quote-unquote black liberation when they realized that would be a more effective tactic for bringing South Africa to its knees and putting all those strategic critical minerals and shipping lanes in their hands. So they basically took over an existing structure, the African National Congress.

to the point where the entire leadership of the ANC was dominated by actual card-carrying members of the South African Communist Party. And whistleblowers from both of those parties came and testified to this fact in Congress. So you had a very powerful communist apparatus there that was supported by the Soviet Union and all the Soviet satellite states. They were getting huge amounts of money. Of course, the UN was backing them as well.

And then you add to that the U.S. deep state was supporting them to the point where our government, starting even in the 1950s, was pouring millions. By the time it was all done, hundreds of millions, according to Rand University, hundreds of millions of dollars into these subversive communist groups like SWAPO, the Southwest African People's Organization, like the Pan African Pan Africanist Congress, which was kind of an offshoot of the ANC.

pouring money into this, very much like what they did in Zimbabwe. And it was the same situation in Zimbabwe where the U.S. deep state then got involved and they presented a false binary. Your choices are either apartheid or communist revolution. And what they didn't tell people was a lot of the African nations in South Africa were actually allied with the Afrikaners against the communist revolution.

none probably more significantly than the Zulus, who were brutally and viciously targeted by the communists through necklacing, through mass murder, horrific things. And so we watched this really interesting situation where the communist populace

powers of the world were united in the same end goal in South Africa with some of the most elite and powerful institutions in the United States. Of course, Reagan spoke out about this a little bit, tried to stop some of this. They actually put the ANC and some of the key leaders on the U.S. terrorist list. But ultimately, it just it proved to be too much. And they ended up with a communist revolution, which now is entering its second phase where they just steal stuff and kill people who get in the way.

Okay, so we're going to get into that and back into the genocide. Alex, I would just talk to my producer here, put him on hold and just get an answer. Make sure that he can stay for the full hour with me because he's got a lot to say in America. You need to hear this. First, let me tell you about relief factor. If you could go back and do things differently, there's a lot of things that I would change. One of them is I would not have walked across that plank on a two-story, out of a two-story window.

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So usually what communists do is they cause all kinds of strife. Then they start to eliminate the people that can stand against them. And then they also take away property. Because once you take away property, you take away the power from the people to stand against the government. And it happens over and over and over and over again. Where are we on that, Alex, in South Africa?

Well, South Africa has now, and this is their language, right? This is not me providing analysis. This is the way they speak of it. So their revolution was divided up into two phases. The first phase has officially faded into history now. The first phase was where we

appear to be moderate and actually did the current president uh... serial drama put them he actually was quoted by numerous reputable newspapers in southern africa talking about the strategy of boiling at the africaners like frogs you gotta do it slowly because if you go too quickly they'll jump out the resist the fight back

So this has been a long-term strategy. Now they're in the second phase of the revolution. And in the second phase, they have already launched some of their most significant programs, the very obvious one being the theft. Now they have a fancy term for it. They call it expropriation without compensation. But a much simpler way of saying that is just stealing, right? When you expropriate something without compensation, that's taking something, taking private property from someone, expropriating

and giving them nothing in exchange they have now legalize that the parliament voted on that approved that even though it was a violation of their nation's constitution

So we've now entered the second phase. They're now dropping the mask. And back, I think it was about eight years ago. I'd have to go back in my records, but I've written dozens of articles on this. The ANC, which is the ruling party, which has governed South Africa in an alliance with the South African Communist Party since the Afrikaners voted to surrender political control. They openly declared in their foreign policy document that communist China was

in their terms, the guiding lodestar of our struggle. So they look to communist China as the model. If you go to South Africa today, it's filled with communist Chinese quote-unquote companies and agents and assistants and trainers. So that's the direction they're moving. And I believe they're getting very close to the time when they just

openly unleashed. The murders have been going on for decades. Thousands and thousands of farmers have been murdered in the most brutal fashion imaginable. And I believe if they think they can get away with it, they'll move to full-blown extermination sooner rather than later. So then let me take you to the White House next and what President Trump did and the reaction of all of the press and what the truth is behind this. We'll do that next. Don't go anywhere.

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So when Trump started talking about South Africa in the White House, it was pretty powerful. I mean, I've tried to look into this, what's happening to the farmers, et cetera, et cetera, for years. And unless you go there, you're just not going to find any answers that are satisfying because you don't know who to trust.

Alex Newman, he's a journalist. He's the CEO of Liberty Sentinel Media. And he's been on the show several times. What I didn't know is that he moved when he was 18 to South Africa. So he knows it kind of very intimately and very well and has been writing about this for a long time. Do you have any idea, Alex, why the president decided to bring this up and deal with it the way he did, which I think honestly was genius?

I think it was genius as well, and I'm very grateful that he finally drew attention to this. He's probably one of the few people on the planet with a megaphone big enough to get over the dishonesty by the fake media, and he did a masterful job of that. My understanding is that several of the people close to him, incidentally including Elon Musk, have shared this information with him and have expressed

explained to him the urgency of the situation. And, you know, he knew that it was going to result in a lot of attacks, just as it has, of course, how many fake fact checks did we see in the immediate aftermath of that meeting. But he's got some people around him who understand what's going on, who understand how important it is to shine a light on this. And so I, for one, am very grateful that he did it. And I think he did it very well. You know, the media, they're seizing on little nitpicky things. You know, he made a little mistake there, a little mistake there. But the big picture that he

It was exactly correct. Yeah. Well, it's good to hear. You know, one of the things that they nitpicked, they were like, only, you know, I don't remember what the number was, 2,000 or 5,000 white farmers have been killed. And South Africa has, you know, 28,000 murderers a year. 28,000.

murders a year. So you know, we have 19,000 murders a year. We are 350 million. They're about 60 million. So this shows that the government is completely out of control. They've lost control of society and the civilization. Murder is apparently a popular pastime now, but that doesn't diminish what

what is happening to the farmers because they are all saying the Africaners are the problem and they needed, they need to be killed, but then they always walk it back and say, I mean, one of them will not yet, not yet. And our press just agrees with it.

Yeah. And let's seize on that for just a moment, Glenn. This shows you how dishonest the media is, right? And how dishonest Ramaphosa is. One of the videos that Trump, actually several of the videos that Trump showed featured Julius Malema. And he was described by the president of South Africa, Cyril Ramaphosa, as dishonest.

an opposition leader and we don't agree with that policy. What he didn't give you was the background. Julius Malema was the leader of the ANC Youth League and he was openly singing those songs for years and years and years in his capacity as the leader of the ANC Youth League.

Now it's true he has gone off and formed a separate party, the Economic Freedom Fighters, which that's what they do, they fight against economic freedom. But he is very, very closely connected to the power establishment in South Africa and also in England, by the way, which is very interesting. He's got a lot of big friends and supporters in England.

and even here in the United States. And they work very closely with the ANC government. So Ramaphosa was being very dishonest there. The media was being very dishonest there. This is a guy who is like two peas in a pod with the ruling establishment in South Africa. And by the way, he's not the only one singing these songs. I mentioned Jacob Zuma earlier. While he was

president, member of the ANC, singing similar genocide songs, bring me my machine gun, we're going to shoot all the boars, my cabinet's going to shoot all the boars. They're dead serious about this, and the media is being incredibly dishonest. Tell me what we know for sure about the white farmers.

So here's another really important point to pick up on because that's one of the attacks that the media used to argue against Trump. They said, well, murder affects all South Africans. And that's what Cyril Mbroma-Poza said. And that's true. South Africa is one of the most violent societies in the world today.

There's no doubt about it. But what we're seeing with the murders of these Afrikaner farmers, these Boers, is something on a whole other level. A normal murder, if you want to call it that in South Africa, you pull up at a red light, some guy pulls out a gun, shoots you in the head, drives off with your car. That's a normal murder in South Africa. And that happens to all kinds of people. You drive a nice car, you have a nice watch.

expect to be in big trouble. What's happening to the Afrikaner farmers is very different. These are orchestrated raids. They're planned out months in advance. I can't even say some of the things on the radio, Glenn. I don't want to get you in trouble. Some of the things that they're doing to these people

defy belief. It's almost demonic, the torture, the savagery that goes into this, the drilling people full of holes with electric drills, torching them with blowtorches, raping women, children, elderly in front of their husbands, in front of their parents.

It is evil, Alex. You know that. I mean, I know you well enough to know you know that. It is the same evil that is sweeping the world with Hamas and what's happening in Israel. There is a very powerful evil that has been unleashed and is worshipped by many people on the planet right now that has to be called out by name and has to be stood up against and only, quite honestly...

If you ever feel any of this in your life around your children, raise your hand to the square and chase it out in the name of Jesus Christ. I mean, it is real. It is real.

It is, Glenn. And when they're done mutilating these people, when they're done brutalizing these people, they take the family Bible and they leave it on their dead body. They rip out pages from the Bible and leave it on the dead body. They leave nasty notes on the gate. They drag these people behind pickup trucks. This is...

murder that is motivated by hatred that is almost impossible to understand. It only makes sense when you see it in the context that you just explained. This is evil that we're dealing with. Afrikaners stand in the way of this communist revolution. They built essentially a Western Christian society down there.

And that cannot be allowed to stand. And so that's what I when I call South Africa a microcosm of what they're planning for all of us. I mean that in the most literal sense. They took at least 12 nations that are really very distinct nations, different languages, different religions, different heritage, different traditions. Many of them had been at war with each other, genociding each other long before any Europeans ever showed up.

and they've amalgamated them all under a unitary all-powerful communist state which we call today the South African government, the Republic of South Africa. And what they're trying to do is mold them all into this perfect utopia. Obviously we see what happens, the same thing that happens when communism is unleashed anywhere, but when you understand that that's the model that they want to use for the world, right? Imagine America

as the Afrikaners. We are one out of 193 votes in the UN General Assembly. Now, the last leader of the UN, Ban Ki-moon, was openly calling the UN General Assembly the Parliament of Humanity. The BRICS nations and the G77 plus China nations got together. They said we should empower the General Assembly to be an emblem of global sovereignty.

Well, what happens if the UN or some similar organization becomes an emblem of global sovereignty is America will be in the exact same position as the opera conners find themselves in right now. No control over our destiny, no ability to protect our individual rights on our private property. We will be completely at the mercy of the all-powerful unitary state that they're trying to impose on us. And again, that's the model they're using, and you can read it in their own papers.

So in 2008 and 2009, I spoke a lot about the consequences of a collapsing dollar. When we inflate our dollar, when we go unstable, because we are the world's reserve currency, it inflates the prices for everyone else.

If we go and start going down, believe me, this is what I warned against for 15 years. The rest, politicians just want to scapegoat. That's it. So if their people are hurting, they want to point the finger to somebody else. And the easiest finger to point will be to the United States. And everybody will forget the goodness and the

grace of the United States. And all they will look at is how greedy we were, how out of control we were, how we were nothing but war mongers. And we wanted our stuff and we've made the rest of the world pay for our stuff. And they will unleash a global hatred on us, take our stuff and kill us. And that is just a fact. If we don't

fix ourselves, we are not going to survive. Is that too crazy to say, Alex? That's exactly what's happening, Glenn, and I'm glad you mentioned that. And I go to these UN conferences, right? I was going to the UN climate conferences. I've been doing that for 15 years. During the last Trump administration, I just wish I could show people what I saw there. I mean, we got video. I did articles about it. But

You can't quite put it into words. I'll give you one example. I was at the UN Climate Summit in Katowice in Poland. This was the COP24, if I'm not mistaken. And there's a government-funded, taxpayer-funded little group called ICANN that Putin, Kremlin has been funding and a bunch of other groups through a shell company in Bermuda. We can get into that some other day.

And they have this contest that they do every day, which is the worst country in the world. And they have first place, second place, third place. Well, America won first place, second place, and third place. We're the cause of every storm, every hurricane, every warmth, every drought, every rain, because we are stuck to our SUVs and we're greedy, just like you said. Then you add to that the racial dimension.

people around the world today, including, by the way, the immigrants who are coming to the United States legally and illegally, are being taught that America is built on white supremacy and hatred. They will all feel totally justified in coming after us if we don't get this under control. And like you said, Glenn, fix ourselves because that is what they're telling the world right now. We've got to stop this narrative. And it starts by just calling it out.

Alex, I think you are, I think this is one of the more important interviews I've done in a very, very long time. You are a voice that needs to be heard. If you're around today, I'd like to call you and talk to you about this some more. There's a lot to learn here and a lot to share. Thank you so much, Alex. Appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate it. I look forward to talking to you. You bet. That is Alex Newman. He is a journalist, the CEO of Liberty Sentinel Media.

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Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. I think that was a fascinating hour. Stu, this has bothered me for such a long time and nobody talks about it and it just feels so real and everyone is denying it. And you know, we wouldn't have put up with this. We didn't put up with this when it was apartheid and the same kind of stuff is happening. But because of this anti-racist bull crap that the world is going on, uh, going through right now, uh,

Nobody wants to touch it and everybody will excuse it. And it's so dangerous. Yeah, I was, I mean, moments away from closing down a condo in Cape Town. Thank God we heard that interview first. Yeah. It's hard. I will say it's kind of hard to sort through. That's why I thought that interview was really valuable because it was, it's hard to sort through what's actually going on there, you know, because you get all these reports from the mainstream media where it's like,

You know, the violence is everywhere. And it's got nothing to do with, you know, a genocide. And it's just a violent country. And you have to understand that. And there are elements of truth to that, as he pointed out. And on the other side, you get so much...

hyperbole on the internet from people who were... Yeah, I know. There's all sorts of stuff. It's really hard to sort through. So that was really helpful to understand that history. When you look at 28,000 murders every year in a country of 60 million, that just shows how out of control. But look at how out of control our nation has become. Now, it's not anywhere close, but once you start...

changing more towards a communist system and you start making laws that aren't laws that apply to everybody, chaos ensues. They're just ahead of us in this. God forbid we go this far. But they're just ahead. And when you are trying to keep power by pointing your finger at the bad guy,

And the bad guy is the white guy or the black guy doesn't matter. But in that case, and in this case, it's the white man that is keeping everybody down. Look at how they're saying that white men, I mean, James Comey just said it just this week, that the white man is the biggest terror threat. How many times have you heard that? No, really? Because we're not the ones shooting people. That's not happening. Right.

And when you train a society that anything can be done to that person, no matter what color they are, but that group, anything can be done to that group because they're the bad guys. That's, that's how you get it. And it's, it's a combination of the two. Yeah. It's genocide and out of control, uh, crime. And I know you've talked about this before a million times, but like, you know, violence is not about your skin color. It's, it's a human problem. And, and,

You know, you have to be able to sort through this and live with principle. You don't make decisions based on skin color. If you live with that principle, it's not like, well, I think this race is bad and I think this race is bad and you have an argument about it. No, you just don't make decisions like that. You don't take people's land or wipe them out because of their skin color. Should be obvious, but getting more challenging by the day, apparently. Racism usually is about politics.

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This is the Glenn Beck Program. I always like having Selena Zito on because she and her Jeep have logged about 400,000 miles across the country just recently.

refusing to travel the interstates, just going the back way. So she stops in town, stops at coffee shops, and she listens. She's an old-style journalist that does it the right way and listens, and her insight is always so good. There is a story out today that talks about how Americans feel over 50%. It's

It's a new all-time high for at least the last 20-some years. More Americans feel like we are on the right track than on the wrong track. Believe it or not, that number has been very, very low through several presidents here recently. It's a new record high in the last, you know, probably 25, 30 years. Selena is there to talk to us about maybe why some of this is happening. What is she seeing on the ground today?

She says she sees the future in Western Pennsylvania, the future of AI. And she's also witnessed the future possibly of steel. We're going to talk to Selena what she's hearing in 60 seconds. First, let me tell you about Blinds.com. If you're a do-it-yourselfer,

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I did send it to you. I sent it off a couple weeks ago. So make sure you got it. Is it a hard copy or is it digital? I sent both. Okay. Sarah, send her my...

in my private email so I can get a copy digitally today. I'll start reading it today because I can't wait. This is a story about what really happened in Butler. And you would know because you were standing almost at the feet of the president. It's a remarkable story and it comes out in a few weeks. Okay.

So, Selena, I saw this poll out today that said more Americans are thinking we're on the right track, even though we are headed for real, real trouble that people don't understand. They're arguing the wrong things about this big, beautiful bill, I think, and they don't understand why.

Congress doesn't understand we have to cut, and the people don't understand we can't dramatically cut until some other things happen because the GDP is revolving around the federal government and local and state. 45% of our GDP is now through our local, state, and federal government. That's a problem. That's a real problem. Okay, so Selena, tell me some of the good things that you're seeing. Let's start with, you say you see the future of AI. Yeah.

You went out on me. Did you say start with AI? Yeah, start with... You said you saw the future of AI and it's in Pennsylvania. What does that mean? Yeah. So most people think AI, they think Silicon Valley, right? They think that's where this new part of our economy...

is going to be centralized. It's actually not. It's going to be in Appalachia, in Western Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Ohio, where there are large availabilities of natural gas. So AI-powered data power centers require an enormous amount of energy. Think of them as being thirsty, right? And they need it, and they need it all the time, and they need it reliably.

Wait, wait, wait. Let me give you a little more depth on that as a listener. Out of all of the energy we produce every day for the United States, everything, AI by 2028 is going to require 99% of that energy to actually function. So when she says it's thirsty, no, you're going to be thirsty if we don't figure this out right now.

That is actually true. That's much better said. So where do we have these great deposits of energy in this country? Well, it's in western Pennsylvania and West Virginia and Ohio where the natural gas and shale is and Texas.

And so there are these data power centers, and I think it's important to say this up front.

President Trump has said we cannot compete in the AI to be the center of AI. We need to win and dominate in this industry. It is imperative. We need to be better than China. We need to be better than everybody, and we need to be 10 times better. Well, that requires this energy source.

So what's happening here in western Pennsylvania, you know, a couple of years ago, and you and I have talked about this, Glenn, they decommissioned all these coal-fired power plants, right? Yep. Coal is bad. Coal is dirty. Right. Well, there's these just massive plants that can be used, retrofitted, to supply natural gas. Right.

So that's what's happening in Indiana County in Pennsylvania in this tiny, tiny little village called Homer City, where they literally broke their hearts just 18 months ago by shutting the coal-fired power plant down. And the day, like a week after they blew up the stacks, which is where the steam escaped,

They announced that they have started to build, they are already shovel-ready, started construction and turning it into a natural gas power plant. And right beside it, they're building an AI data power plant. This is 10,000 jobs.

So is this you you're saying they have broken ground on this because that's one of the things, you know, President Trump said, I'm going to take away all the regulation for these companies. They're going to become their own utilities. They have to produce their own power. They can use power plants anywhere, anyone's they want. And I would take a vast majority of the regulations so they can build them quickly. And that's the one thing I've been waiting to hear. The.

They should have shovels in the ground right now. This should be a massive, almost, you know, WPA kind of effort from FDR. What was it called when they did all the power across the country and they built all the dams so quickly? We need that kind of movement right now.

Well, it's happening in Pennsylvania. I was standing right across the plant and construction truck after construction truck moving old dirt, moving parts of the old facility that they're tearing down and parts of them bringing in the steel to build the new parts. I mean, I was just standing across from it. I have a really great piece in the Washington Post and they made it free.

So I highly suggest people go and read it because it really details exactly what's happening. This is 10,000 jobs in a teeny tiny little county in Western Pennsylvania.

And it's a game changer. And these are good paying jobs. And they aren't just welders and carpenters and plumbers, which are so essential for the building of it, but also for the maintenance of it. It's also geologists, scientists, computer technicians, engineers. You know, it is a coalition of America. And that is what is so wonderfully great about this entire thing, because it employs people.

a variety of different fields to make this happen. And it's very, very similar to what happened in Western Pennsylvania being the heart of the first industrial revolution with the discovery of oil in Titusville.

And there, because of that discovery of oil in Titusville, you had the birth of J.D. Rockefeller. You had the birth of Carnegie Steel. You know, everything because of that energy source changed. And we're just seeing the exact same thing 150 years later.

I'm so glad. You know, I did a half hour today in the first half hour of today's podcast, and it was all about what is happening with our economy today.

And I said, look, these are the problem. This is what got us to be the great leader in the world. Let me ask you, how many of these do we still have? This is why Trump is making the moves he's making on certain things. And one of them was energy. We were abandoning cheap energy. If you don't have cheap energy, you cannot lead the world. You have to have cheap energy. And I don't want to get into the details, but some friends of mine and I, we...

pooled some money together and went in with a company that is trying to reinvent some energy. And we actually bought a coal plant in your general area to try to save because they were going to destroy it. That was part of the government deal. You got to destroy them. And so we went in and we bought it so we could preserve it. And it's working out well now because we

You know, if what we are working on seems to be working, but if it doesn't, we can turn it over immediately and get it back to gas or coal. And you don't have to build these things. The government was destroying all of them. And coal is vitally important in this AI industrial revolution because you have to have something reliable.

reliable that is there not only to back it up if something goes wrong, but also to sustain what we currently have. Look, we have like last summer, last winter, it still feels like winter here, last winter,

We had unprecedented cold days and weeks where it was below 20. The grid couldn't handle that if we didn't have coal. Coal saved our grid during that. Also, coal saves the grid when there's heat and the air conditionings are running. Coal is a very vital part of our energy portfolio.

So Donald Trump is I mean, I know you're focused, you know, on that region, you know, of America. But a lot of the action of what's what's coming and hopefully will turn America around is happening in Pennsylvania, a state that has not been thought of as a leader for quite some time. But there's some dynamic things going on, including the big deal with steel. Right.

Oh, my gosh. I cannot express enough how big of a deal it is. Yes, it is a very big deal in Pennsylvania for a number of reasons. It preserves these working class

communities from falling apart in the way that the way that many cities like Youngstown and McKeesport fell apart during the 1970s when Jimmy Carter turned, literally turned his back on workers when they came down to the White House and asked him for help.

These communities now where the plants are in Clareton and Braddock and West Mifflin are now saved. And not only are they saved because these jobs are preserved, but also there's an influx of new technology and new bills going into these plants, which are also going to create more opportunities, more jobs. And these towns can stop decaying and they can rightly, um,

be the heart of the middle class once again in this country. But also we have to think about what other, like steel impacts so much of our economy. Think about the cars, think about all the appliances that you have in your house, right? All of this comes from steel, the bridges, the roads, the buildings.

Steel is literally the spine in all of it. And if we don't have good American-made steel, if we had cheap steel coming from China, that is not only very expensive. When I say cheap, I mean cheaply made, not inexpensive. It not only costs the consumer more, but you're getting an inferior product. Right.

Selena, always good to talk to you. Thank you so much. I look forward to the new book, Butler. If you haven't pre-ordered it yet, you need to. She is doing the deep dive on what actually happened in Butler and what it was like being there. She was literally at the feet of the president when it happened. It's a riveting story, and I'll tell you more about the book. I know her story by hearing it from her, but I'll tell you more about the book as I read it. And when does that come out, Selena? Yeah.

It comes out July 8th, and I will send that e-copy to you today, Mr. Beck. Thank you so much for talking about it. I appreciate it. Thanks. Bye. Selena Zito, the author of Butler. Okay, back in just a second. Let me tell you about Patriot Mobile. These days, it matters more than ever before.

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No, you know, we should try following the Constitution and have people in government that can accomplish their assigned roles. I feel like that's something we should shoot for in the future. I'm kind of thinking that maybe we shouldn't automate the government. These are, I thought, kind of low hurdles to clear, but we don't, at least the last couple years have not been able to do it.

Well, but this is, this is exactly what the progressive movement is truly all about. This is the end game that it is just a series of administrators. It's not really a president. It's not anybody you really even elected elect. It's just a series of people who just know better than everybody else that just get the job done. That is exactly what they laid out in the early 20th century. That's what, you know, Wilson Ford, I mean, sorry, Wilson FDR, uh,

and, uh, Johnson and Obama were working towards and now Biden finished it. Yeah. So it's not anything bad to them. That's what they've been advocating for. One of the, one of the books, and there's so many of them that I've been reading, but one of them described it as there was a five person council running the country. Uh, and Biden was at best a, uh, board member.

At best. At best, a board member. That's the way they describe it. Again, these are not conservative books. This isn't like us writing this book and taking shots at Biden. These are mainstream media figures writing these books now. I mean, this is a massive problem, and I think crimes were committed. Yeah, well, make your decision on what kind of government you want, gang. This is Glenn Beck.

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So, Glenn, what do you make of what seems to be in the news today about Fort Knox? There's kind of like several stories I saw over the past 24 hours talking about how

Donald Trump has decided, you know, this is maybe not the right thing to focus on or maybe he's not concerned about it. There was talk initially about maybe to bring cameras. I know you were looking at trying to bring cameras there to kind of document this for the people, making sure that we have these reserves. What do you, is there a change in his position? Is he just delaying it? What's going on? I don't know. I don't think he's delaying it. If the story is true, if the story is true,

You know, I think what let's take it at face value. What the media is saying is that because he knows that the gold is there. Well, good. I'm glad the president knows the gold is there. I'm thrilled with that. Now, what he should do instead of just saying, you know what, I'm moving on to other things. I mean, I really think he should do an office of radical transparency.

And because we have to restore our trust in things, uh, and let's just take the gold thing. I don't know if the gold is there or the gold isn't there. I have no idea. You can make a great case both ways that the gold is there and the gold isn't there. Uh, you can make a case, uh, both ways that, you know, that was all legitimate and they just missed a few things. Um, but then the next one was seemed to be a little more shady and harder to explain, but you can explain it and the gold is there. Um,

I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I used to be much more willing to accept the official line. I'm not willing to accept that anymore. It doesn't mean I'm saying it's not there. I'm just saying I'm not going to accept that anymore.

So I won't take a stand on things that I just don't know. I'm not going to give anybody in government the benefit of the doubt. So I think what he should do is, let's say the New York Times is right. See, he knew the gold was really there all the whole time, and so that's why he's backing off. Great. Then what the president should do is go to his office of radical transparency and say, hey, you know what? I don't have any time to deal with this. I want you guys to deal with this. I want you just to open up the vaults.

I mean, they do this in England all the time, in the Bank of London. So I don't know why we're not doing it here. You know, let's set it up once a year. People can go in, not people, but, you know, cameras can go in and select people. And every year we'll take from the audience, you know, from the American people. What are you saying that we were hiding? OK, we'll show you that, too, next year. You know, I mean, I just think radical transparency should be the thing.

the MO of the day. That's why I said that about what I did about the FBI and DOJ on Epstein. I don't know. I didn't see the evidence that those guys saw. I'd like to see the evidence that those guys saw. I trust them. I believe them, but I don't believe institutions, but I do believe those guys. And if, you know, if Dan Bongino says, guys, I saw the evidence, I believe him, but to make sure that the entire country heals, you know,

They need to show that, and maybe it's an office of radical transparency, needs to show all of that and just say, here it is. Okay? And yes, we did go to the moon. And you know how we know? How we can prove it? And just prove it. And I know there will always be naysayers, but at least we'll get some of the people back to sanity on the things that we should believe in. So you're creating an orte.

Yes. Ort. Ort. Okay. We have Ort. We had a Doge. Now we have an Ort. Yes. I am Ort. Yeah. So I think that's interesting because I think there is a fascinating balance that people are going through right now trying to understand this stuff and that, you know, obviously the left just doesn't.

believe anything that Donald Trump says, right? So they're going to be skeptical of anything that they say. But when it comes to someone, you know, who might be a Trump voter who looks at this and says, you know, I listen to Dan Bongino's podcast every day and a big fan of him and Pete Hegseth and all these people he's put in control. When they tell me these things, do I just believe them or

Or, you know, is it a waste of time for them to come out and sort of reprove things that they say are actually true just so that we can all kind of, you know, where his side might, you know, again, his side might agree. Right. But there's going to still be lots of skeptics. I don't know. A lot of these. Sure. These types of theories don't tend to get tamped down by more evidence. So it's a waste of time for this. So you're never going to. No, because I think we have to make the effort, whether you choose to believe it or not. You have to make the effort.

And, you know, I choose to believe Dan Bongino. I choose to believe Kash Patel because I know them. I choose to believe President Trump. I know him. I just don't think they are. It's part of them in any way, shape or form to lie to the American people. It's just not in their character. And so I believe them. But.

One of the things that is a big problem is trust. We have no trust in any institution in this country anymore. We have to do the thing. Remember, what was hope and change all about? Remember? Transparency. Transparency. We're not going to do backroom deals anymore. You're going to read every single book. None of that came true, but in 2008...

People were saying, I want some change here because there's no transparency. Do you think that's gotten better? No. So radical transparency is required. Yeah. I mean, I think that's a good goal. I mean, you think, too, something like the Fort Knox incident.

show, if you will, right, where you're going and you're saying, hey, hey, everybody, here's our gold. We swear we have it. Doing that once a year or once every two years, you know, whatever it is, could easily be slid into something like the big, beautiful bill at a very low cost. Obviously, it's not a high, you know, it's not like it's going to cost you a lot to do that.

And maybe does push back one of these theories a little bit, right? Like you're never going to get rid of everybody who believes these things. I would do this for free. You know how many people would do this for free? Yeah. And I would put together a group of people on all sides, right?

It can't be about politics. It just has to be about the truth. I don't care what your politics are. I don't care who's harmed by it. I don't care we have to do a special favor to this or that. We're just going to show the truth. That's all we're going to do. We're not going to show you our opinion. We're going to show you the facts as we find them here. There are the vaults. There are the rooms. This is where it should all be. There it is. Can you test one? Somebody come over here, pull a random brick here,

You know, three bricks back, two bricks back, whatever. Don't tell me just pull three random bricks for this pile and then do it in this one and then do it in the next room and let the chips fall where they may. I mean, that's the only way to cure what we have going on.

I think. Yeah. I don't think, and I know you noted this, but I don't think it cures it. Right. I think there will always be people who are skeptical of these things. I mean, you know. 110%. Yeah. Yes. I think of all the things that we've had on film. And not to mention, with the rise of AI, whether anyone would even believe these videos as they came out.

Yes. But you can take steps to make sure that people who want the truth can try to find it. And that is – I think that would be a helpful step. I do – I am a little concerned if they spend too much time trying to track down every theory that's on the internet and trying to disprove it. Like, that's not –

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying there are some big things that are important. The gold is important. The moonshot, believe it or not, is important. Do we have any faith in the moonshot anymore? I mean, I remember that was at 7%. That's what I expect. I expect 7% to 8% of the American people are just not going to believe whatever is out there. They're just going to have a different... There's flat earthers. But when flat earthers become 20%, 18%, that's a problem.

That's a problem. You're never going to get rid of all the flat earthers, but you should be able to answer some easy questions. And it's not just by showing people the facts. The government has to move in a transparent way. The DOJ, the United States Senate, and the Congress, they need to find ways to act in a transparent way. I'm going to ask my architect friend who

I've designed several buildings with him, and he did something for me years ago, and we've never published it. I'll send it out today. I said, redesign the Capitol today for maximum transparency. And so we redesigned the Capitol, and the whole front of it is glass. And so it just reminds everybody, you can see everything. There is no dark places to hide here.

And that's the attitude that needs to happen. I mean, I didn't plan on redesigning the Capitol. I mean, I just wanted it for a point. And it turned out to be a beautiful, beautiful architectural drawing of it. And I'll send it to you because it's beautiful. But that's the attitude. It needs the entire government needs to go. I can't hide anything. There's no way to hide things. No way.

You know, Hitler designed, redesigned a lot of buildings in his capital as well. I just want to point that out to the audience. No, I think, so walk me through how this works in the age of AI, though. Because, you know, I was watching a video the other day of a kangaroo trying to get onto a plane. And, you know, he was holding a ticket.

And, you know, a lot... Was it real? Well, shockingly, it was not. And my thought initially was, this is obviously AI. There's not really such thing as a, you know... It's not like the dogs that you bring on to soothe yourself, the personal support dogs. They don't... Kangaroo's not really in that category. But it would be an interesting flight. However...

That was my initial reaction was like, obviously this can't be real. It looked real. It looked very real. I will say almost every comment under the video was commenting on this is crazy. Can you believe this person trying to bring a kangaroo onto a plane? Like seemingly taking it seriously. Now, the crazy part about this is I don't know how many of those people were bots, right?

So I don't even know if those people were real that had the questions about the thing. But how do you navigate that in the world that is coming? Okay, easy. Stop getting your news from social media. Stop it. The man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but social media. So many people are reading, they're getting all of their news from social media. Stop getting...

getting your news from social media. You can start there and look at some of the things, but then you have to pursue it. You have to read the stories. You have to do research yourself. You cannot be spoon-fed this stuff anymore or you're going to be a moron. Absolute morons. You cannot get your news from social media. Period. It's that easy.

God, it's that easy. But that's like a full-time job to check all that stuff out. I don't know that it's that easy. I think. I know. And, and that's where, you know, you've got to find some trusted sources, you know, um, we have to do a better job. I mean, Stu, you know, the project I'm working on and it just keeps getting bigger and bigger and more and more expensive. I'm really going to need your help here. I'll explain here in the next few months, but, um,

One of the things that we have to develop that is now on the list of things we have to develop is a way to be able to put a tool in the hands of the average person. Is this AI? Is this a real video or is this an AI-generated video?

You know, you're not going to be able to catch all of them, but there's got to be a way that the algorithms can, you know, spot that.

a fake i do wonder and it's going to get better and better but we have to have some tools that other than just our gut going yeah you know what that seems crazy a kangaroo i don't know should i check that out should i just be outraged you need more than that i will say uh because short term i think we have that type of stuff for example one of the posts under it and this is available whenever you're on twitter is you can just there's a grok

button there and you can you can kind of engage grok on any individual post and you can ask questions about it someone did that and asked is this an ai video and grok correctly said it was um so that's there perfect at least now good off my plate right it's at least there now but i mean as you point out this is not a technology that's going to get worse and it's going to get much much better maybe the detection detection also gets better and this is just a long stand a big standoff

over a long period of time, but it's going to get hard for normal people. One of the things that Grok has going for it, I think it's Grok, it is all open source. So you can check the algorithm if you know what you're doing. If you're not open source and you're not showing these things, again, that's not radical transparency because people will go, I mean, do you trust Grok? Do you trust AI? Do you trust...

Elon Musk, do you trust, you know, chat GPT? You trust any of this stuff? Cause I don't, I have more trust in Elon Musk and X than anything else because I've seen the hits that he's taken just to be transparent and truthful. But we,

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