877. Andy, Billy Gene & DJ CTI: Billy's 75HARD Journey, OpenAi & Kash Patel Annihilates Senator After Being Accused Of Weaponizing FBI
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Hearts, yes. It is very special. So those of you who have listened to the MSCEO Project will recognize one of my very good friends who has, for the first time in six years, blessed me with his presence here in St. Louis. Appreciate you having me. Mr. Billy Jean. What's happening, bro? DEI motherfuckers. That's right. I'm fucking out. I'm fucking out number now. Shit.

Hey, listen, bro. Here's how it's going to work, though. It's going to be me and you versus him. That motherfucker's the racist over there. So what's happening, bro? Man, it feels good to be here. It's been six years, and I'm honestly—actually, I want to capture this moment on camera because it's happening right now in real time. I want to give proper flowers to you.

You know, because six years when I came, we were having a beer at Billy Jeans, ironically. A few beers. Yeah, a lot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we were celebrating my birthday or something. And we were just vibing and just had a bunch in common. Like, oh, all boys private school? Like, oh, me too. Football? Like all of this. And then we were talking about vision. And at the time, if you remember, it's like,

You had vision, but you were in a good place. Things were good, but coming out here and then seeing that, you guys, I'm inspired. If you haven't seen The Office, it's inspiring. And what I like the most is, I'm going to be real with you, I'm kind of in a weird spot where like,

I've been in this digital marketing game for like 10, 15 years, met every entrepreneur I ever wanted to meet. And that whole quote about never meet your heroes or your whatever is fucking true. Yeah, man. Most people are, are, are full of shit. They're fake. They want something like, I don't want to start off on a bad note, but no, no, no, bro. That's why you and I have both moved out of that. A hundred percent. It's just so like, so it's so cool to come here and then see the culture and say everything that you actually talk about and stand for is here. And, and,

The first hour I was here, I didn't even talk to you yet. So it wasn't like it was set up to put... No, I came in. Everything pristine. You go into this motherfucking gym, like, it is a real thing. All the numbers are aligned, etc. Like, everybody's doing their thing. It's cool because big things are happening, but it doesn't feel, like, stuffy and corporate. Like, it's just... It's all the things I saw. I think it was, like, shit, years ago at, like...

I don't know some event you were speaking on stage and you talked about culture. Yeah. And like you were going on about like people want to know how I'm growing and scaling you like it's all about culture and then to experience it is there. And then other note, like I come in like there's a slideshow of me on the thing. The staff is really nice. Everybody's very kind. DJ is like, what's up? We already felt like family. Like we were late in the show. I was like, this this feels good. Like it was just taken back. I have a motherfuckers. I got a locker.

A locker. It was the attention to detail. It was a picture of my girl, my mother, my daughter. It was, my birthday just happened. It was happy belated birthday. Then it was the birthday. It was like, I was like to the point where I just started to get mad. I got mad because I had to check myself. I was like,

I'm going to have to go work. I'm going to have to step my shit up. Right. And I don't do bad, but I love that feeling. I like the feeling like people, people talk about emotions and there are certain emotions that they just classify as bad or shitty. One of those is jealousy. I like to get jealous. Yeah. I like in here being like, oh, so you think you want some Mandy? Okay. Okay. You think, okay.

In a good, in a healthy competitive way. Yeah, for sure, bro. Yeah. Noted. Brother, that's what drives people like us. 100%. 100%. And that was with 75 Hard. People are like, yo.

You're doing a 75 hard again. Like, do you want to get healthy? I'm just like, I'm going to be real. I just want to be better than you. Yeah. Like, yeah. Because people don't want to be honest, dude. Like, no, I just miss, like I've always worked out my whole life. I fell off. I just miss coming in and just being like, what's up? You know what's funny, dude? Yeah, bro. I do. And people don't fucking understand that. Like,

I my for the people I'm friends with I can simultaneously be really good friends with them and still want to be better than that 100% and that's the love that's the motherfuckers I want to be around to be because dude if you have a winning attitude the attitude that you really believe in yourself and you know that you're a competitor

You want your friends to get better so that you get better. You know what I'm saying? So like I don't want to hang around motherfuckers that aren't competitive I want to be around people who you know, I want to be around people doing better than me because I'm like fuck all right I got it one way or the other or this yeah, it's not always like, you know size your business It could be more fit. It could be better at relationships Yeah, exactly. It's 360. Yeah, so it's like it's just a different way of thinking and I think most people don't I

They you know we hear this quote all the time on the internet, which I fucking hate. That's wrong.

Comparison is the thief of joy. No, bro Comparison is the source of all progress. That's the truth. That's a bar Yeah, bro, and people don't fucking get it because they're uncomfortable with I wanted something we said about that 360 though is because especially like when people will see yourself see myself They'll go yeah size of business money and that's that's this part of that's right. That's that's this part of it And so like, you know, I got friends so I just I'm like man. I'm a fuckers a good-ass dad. I

And I take pride of how I am with my daughter, but I'm like, oh, you did well with him. Okay, noted. You're going to the park right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get your shit. We're going to go play cards. My fucking boy, Daniel. Did you follow Rob Dyrdek online? Yeah. Shout out to Rob. Rob's a fucking genius, bro. Oh, he's a real genius, for sure. So when he posed the way that he'll spoil his wife for all the balloons.

and all that, I'm like, damn, I got to shut my girl's Instagram down. Like, you can't go on Instagram today because I can't, you know, I got to do more. So I love it. It's winning in 360. Bro, it's funny that you said that because I've always admired that about Rob too. Like, Rob goes over the top for his family. Easter, birthdays, everything. It's just top notch. And it's so on brand for him because his energy is so good. Yeah. Like, I've been around Rob for a while and like,

It's real shit. Like what you see on TV, he's really like that in person, but even better. And like that. And I, you know, speaking of, I don't think people give him the credit for how fucking smart he is in business. Dude's a fucking genius. We sat together at this, this is years ago. I don't know, maybe five years ago with my buddy, Chris Harder. And we sat next to each other for like an hour and a half. And I forgot what we were talking about. I just left there being like,

You know you watch Robin big yeah, whatever and it was just like it's kind of silly like right like it's it's immature in the same way that I am These are the dumbest guys ever yes, that's a fact then you have a real conversation, and you're like oh shit That's the first thing I thought I said that's one of the smartest entrepreneurs I've talked to in a long time and then I came here and that what I tell you I was like we're looking I think I said ma'am because I have to commend you because this is hard and

To build this size of organization and to have all the things going, right? Like that's my whole life is going into businesses. I've seen every company you think of, Fortune 500, small. The difficulty level is insane. And y'all are doing it. It's impressive. Well, I appreciate all that, bro. And, you know, I echo all those sentiments to you, bro, because you've come a fucking long way since we first met. Appreciate you. You know, we've been friends for probably close to a decade now. How did you guys meet?

- Dude, I think just through the entrepreneur space, we were both speaking and doing stuff and-- - It's a small world, like you know everybody. You go somewhere and you see the same people. - I'm very thankful for that time in my life, but I'm also thankful to not really be in that anymore because of what you said. - 100%.

and i noticed you you know you pulled away too and just kind of you know it's just dude there's just too much you know what it's like even my assistant now like i say no to every podcast every speaking you know why because i don't want to one i like staying at home in san diego playing tennis me too right like but two is so many scams yeah like yeah i like and not just in the speaker world but just business period like i remember like the bbb the very first time

I was exposed to them was I got a letter and it was like, somebody said a bad review about you. And I was like, what is this? And it was like, someone bought something for like 30 bucks. I was like, told my team, I was like, just go refund it, like make it right. And I'll never forget this. They sent a letter back and we responded to their claim or whatever. And they're like, oh, in order to respond to this, you have to pay $60 a year. Yeah. So I said, hold it, hold it.

What you're telling me is people can go in, trash your reputation, say anything, and you only let me reply if I pay you. You know, my thing on canceling, people ask me this all the time. They're like, how do you deal with all these fuckers coming after you? It's very simple.

I don't fucking care if it's not real. If it's real and I fucked up, I'll say I'm sorry. But if it's not, fuck them. Fuck them. Yeah, I don't care. But yeah, man, it's just... It's also fake life. It's like social media. It's fake. It's literally like... Bro, have you heard that... If you turn it off, your life will change none. Yeah. You ever heard about the dead internet theory? No. So there's a theory...

Actually think there's a lot of truth to it that half the internet or more is just bots. Yeah, well there are a lot of yeah Yeah, and so when they like all the propaganda that they pushed on Twitter and shit when Dorsey owned or what's his face? Jack Dorsey owned it Was pushed out by bots so they're they're they're curbing public perception because of the bots It's dude. It's just we live in this fucking

It really is a matrix. It's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's creating something. Yeah. So, dude, you lost how much fucking weight recently? It was like...

i think the total on 75 hard i think was like 47 pounds yeah you crushed it it was it was fine i gained uh seven back around the last week and a half but um it uh i texted andy to let you guys know i said you know you do a lot of dope i said i think this is the most important thing you've ever done in your life um and i say that because and you guys are looking preaching to the choir right where everybody hears from number 75 hard understands the impacts but um

To me, I don't believe you can get anything in life without obsession and unbalance. Totally agree. You're right. And I say because there's so many people who preach this

Balance thing and I just have come to the conclusion that balance is right if I'm balancing I'm trying to stay why I'm at that's what balance is used for if I climb to a mountain, right? You know you you're staying where you're at there. That's not to progress. I think 75 hard is the truth of

the true cost of what it takes to get what you want. And so many people don't want to do it, even me. Like, I was like, oh, God. Like, for me, like, because I've done 75 hard and had killer results for the first time, too. When I was thinking about doing it, I was doing it with my girl, I was like, man, I'll be real with you. I don't want to do it. You know why? Because I had to be in an honest conversation with myself of, I don't feel like paying the price right now. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

I don't feel like playing the price. That's the conversation people aren't having. Listen, I don't want to pay. No, I don't want to wake up twice. I don't want to spend. I was mad as fuck. And then I went to do it, and my girl was like, make sure you space out the workouts three hours. It's been so long. I was like, dude, is that a real thing? So I texted Andy, and I was like, yo, is that real? I have to space out like three hours? And he's like, yeah. Then I got more mad. No, you said, you said, help me settle a bet. And I'm like, I'm.

And then you're like, fucker. Yeah. And so then it was like, fuck, now this thing got really inconvenient, you know, because it's like, especially like playing sports forever. It was like, I just didn't want to go in the mood. And that's because of momentum. But also I believe in who gives a fuck what I feel like.

You didn't get where you are by doing all the shit you feel like, bro. Yeah, it's like, who cares? So then a week goes by, and now I'm like, I'm in the groove. How can I not? And you just realize the little bitch, as you say, is active in all of us. And I think that's the thing. There's not a single person here who's too strong or beyond that. And I promise you, if...

it's not in the fitness space, there's some other aspect of your life where you're being a little bitch. You're in an argument with somebody, but you won't put your ego aside and be the first person to call. You're being a little bitch. Like, you know, there's something. And that's what a lot of people see that they have it all. The one part that I've learned, and this is like behind the scenes when you start being cool with everybody, and I'm guilty of this too,

It's just like, all right, money's right. Okay, cool. I'm feeling myself. I've been working out a little bit. Check. But the one that's easy to hide, relationships, whether that be your parents, your significant other, your children, that's the easiest one. Especially when you guys see someone who typically classifies as alpha male, check on them because be like, yo, what's good with you? What's good with your significant other though? Like that's how it is. And one of the greatest lessons I ever learned in business. And it's like, look,

Look, you can have it all for like a moment, but I was at this mastermind thing years ago and they just sat around, it was like six dudes and I just started going to go, so which one's off? I said, what? Which one's off? You know, is it health, money, or relationship? Because one's always fucked.

And I was like, that's ridiculous. And I was like, it's kind of real. It's kind of real. Like when you lean in, it's like spinning plates, bro. You're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. A hundred percent. Like it's just the juggle. And then you shift back over and then the other thing goes away and you realize, oh, that's the game. Yep. That's just the game. Keep the plates spinning, dude. Yeah. Keep the plates spinning. Over here. Over here. And that's all of us. So yeah, it was a, it was, it was humbling to, to, to get back after it again. It was disappointing to myself to realize I'm like, I got really out of shape.

I was like, I remember I was like, I walked up my hill with the hill and I was like, yo, I should not be that tired. Yeah. And I'm used to like, you know, cause in your brain I go, I revert back to like the last version of me when I'm like, like, like football, like, or like years after I'm in my zone. So I'm trying to do that. I'm like, yo, I'm kind of slow right now. Like this is, this is crazy. And so it's part of your identity, bro. You see yourself as all these things. You don't realize that, you know, comfort has started to like,

erode the truth of what you actually are versus what you think you are. You know what I'm saying? It's comfort is, is very seduces bro. And it's like very, it's very good at it. It's very gradual. And, you know, it starts with, you know, one to sit, you know, okay, today I'll,

you know, not work out today and I'll do it twice tomorrow or shit like that. Right. And then before you know it, dude, you're looking around and you're like, wait, this isn't what the fuck I am. I don't look anything like what I want to look. I'm not who I am. No. And then it slaps you in the face and you realize the worst part. Yeah, bro. My old, my old me was like always rationalizing how easy it is to get it back. Yeah. So I just keep putting it off, you know? And then I had to look at a point like, Billy, what are you doing? You're fat as fuck right now.

And I yelled at my friends. I was like, yo, I'm mad at you guys because you guys should have called me and said you're fat as fuck right now. Yeah. And-

- And those words. - Yeah, I know. - Hey, bud. - Yeah. - You maybe should work out a little. Hey, Chip. No. - Yeah. - Nigga, what the fuck you doing? You're fat as fuck right now. What the fuck are you doing? What are you talking about? You're fat as fuck right now. - Yeah. - Like, give me that. - That's right. - You know, that's what I needed. - That's real friendship. - Like, that's real friendship, you know? And so even like between 75 hard and then I was teaching class, my students were like, yo, every week I saw you, you were dropping. He was like, this week you didn't. And I was like,

Thank you. Yeah. Appreciate you. I was like, okay. Well, you remember, appreciate you. Yeah. Remember when I was fat as fuck? Yeah. Like, dude, I was pissed at everybody too. I'm like, the fuck guys. I will certainly call you fat. Fuck man. But yeah, dude, you know, uh,

It's cool to have you here, man, and it's really cool to see you kicking ass and doing it. So you're getting heavy into the AI shit now. I mean, that's pretty much all you're doing, right?

- Obsessed, yeah. So like, I'm like very, I'm a gamer, right? So like, and I always have been like my whole life. And so, and I'm also a video guy, right? I make videos around it. You guys probably see my ads before, et cetera. Like I'm obsessed. I get like psycho about things. So when December 20, 2022, when Chad GBT, we'll call it democratized, meaning AI has been around for decades, but when all of us got access to it,

i never forget i was sitting with my boy shout out to mike garci you know mike garci yeah and he's like we went to basketball game he's like hey man like what do you think about the chat gbt thing and i'm so used to marketing things coming and going because i'm always pitched with them right and i'm like another thing so my first reaction was and then he's like just trust me and he's like watch me write a rap song for you and this is like now everyone's used to chat gbt doing that but this was like right in the beginning and i was like okay do it and it did in like two seconds

That day, I probably didn't sleep for three months. I think I spent 50 to 75 grand hiring AI consultants, everything you can think of. I put on an event. The first thing I did, I was putting on an event. I told my people, I said, this is going to be the biggest thing since the internet, Facebook, social media, everything, AI is there. People were like, you're just fear mongering. You're just right away. And I was like, y'all, this is it. I said, I'm paying these experts.

I'm going to go live with them on Zoom. You can join in. I said, I'm coming in learning just like y'all. You can come in. And I did like the biggest online AI event at the time, which was I think we had like three or four thousand people. But nobody was, you know, doing. And so to the point where we were writing that momentum, I'm learning a bunch. I'm putting out content. Here's what I'm learning, et cetera. And then I knew I was on to something because then Procter & Gamble reached out.

"Hey, can you come teach our offices in this country?" And I'm like, now I'm doing these calls. And now I'm seeing how it works at the big companies. Okay, how do we implement this? And I'm just going down this rabbit hole and yo, I'll sum it up like this. Doing, actually, I'll bring this even deeper then we can kind of talk about it. People like you, people like me, people like you, I think we're in for a rude awakening. And here's what I mean. Your brand, your show is all about doing the hard work.

Me too. I'm like, fuck it. Like do it. I get it. I think we're coming into the first time where hard work isn't going to be celebrated. So people don't need a hard man anymore. Here's what I mean. My daughter's nine. Think about how she's growing up. She presses a button. Food shows up. She presses a button. Clothes show up.

She's in school. Everything is done on the computer, like book reports, their spark notes. You know, remember when we first got the TI-83 calculator? Did all the fancy stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. Boobies. Y'all had like the beans on the... For me? Yeah. So like now my daughter's growing up with all of that. And I just said to myself the other day because she's running the mile this week. So I was running with her. She was just like, I was like, sweetheart, she was just being...

a baby and i was like i love you we're going to practice this together and then it just hit me i just said you know what's the truth she may never need to work hard and i believe ai is so powerful that in the next decade it's so much smarter it does things so much better than us it will be weird that a human does it she's never going to have to work hard

Which is fucking crazy and it hurts my soul. It hurts my soul. But I mean that. Think about you guys, everybody watching. Since you've been using ChatGPT, be real. Shit got easier, right? You're like, you need to write an email. Let me put this in ChatGPT. I think it depends on how you look at it. So where I came, first of all, I was 100% against it because...

Think there's an ethical responsibility to provide income for people. Yes, and So I was like fuck I didn't even look at the thing. I'm not fucking looking at this shit. Fuck that I've seen I robot fuck it. Yeah And bro for years I was trying to warn people I was like listen, dude This is you guys should reject this shit and then I figured out after you know It it's coming no matter what yeah, there's no stopping it. Yeah, and

And so at first I was like, fuck, we're not going to... Nobody's going to have jobs. That's what I thought at first. And then I thought...

Then I started like kind of looking into it and learning and I start realizing I'm like I see it as like a weapon Okay, like yeah, it's a tool like if you're yeah, if you're like equipping yourself with the proper weapons You're gonna be able to move much better hundred percent and so I think people who start to understand how to utilize it properly as an employee yep, and

Exponentially increase their output are gonna be extremely valuable Yes, and then there's gonna be people who you know make videos of their cats and shit, right? And those people are gonna get fired. Yeah, and And then I think from a company standpoint, you know instead of looking at it like oh we could fire everybody and Run the company the good companies are gonna say well we could scale ten times bigger with the same amount of people Yes, right

But in terms of like performance as a human and working hard, I think to even, you know, the nature of using it, you have to be intelligent, which requires studying, right? You can't, if you don't have like, like somebody like you or me, we're at a tremendous advantage with it because of the real world experience that we have. For sure. Like if you take someone who's straight off the street,

They don't even, they can't understand the concepts of an ecosystem or how a project should flow. And dude, you could watch every video from every fucking online nerd and they can talk about it, but unless you've actually done it or built it, you really don't get it. It sounds confusing. There's no comprehension. But that's, I think that is, so 100% the same page. But what I think though, dude, I think there's another element to this. Like I think, okay, so what's going to happen is...

We're going to have a situation where a lot of people don't have the same obligations in terms of work that they have to do, which means they're going to have free time. Yeah. And I think it also, when we think about it, the more technology driven society is, the more lonely people are. Yes. So more time, more loneliness equals a desire for some sort of other mission plus community. So,

What I think where the companies and the people are going to go, I really think it's going to, because dude, it's going to take people, businesses figuring this out. But when you provide a community that improves fitness or work ethic, because you have to be smart to fucking do this shit, I think you're still going to have to work hard. But I think it's...

In a different way than what we're used to. Yeah, and I think what you said is huge. The work smarter, not harder, is the realest thing ever. But like, bro, you're still going to want to be a fat fuck. That takes hard work. You're still going to want to be a well-rounded human being. That takes work. You're still going to need to consume. I think also, companies that produce where it's really going to fuck people is straight up info people.

Like, if you make a CPG product or anything that people consume, food, any of that shit, you're going to always have business. Alcohol, weed, you're going to be able to make money. And probably more money because people are going to have more time. But, you know, it's just going to be a different day. But what happens, question to you, what happens when it takes one person to do the job that's currently being done by 10 people?

Well, that means nine people aren't going to have a fucking job. And that is what problem with that is. Ideally, it sounds good until you go macro e-com and you realize, oh shit, that's most people in the country. That's most of your customers. Yeah, most of your customers are most people in the country. So that's when the government just started passing out checks. And that's where I go, fuck. Bro, that's where we get into like, we have to be very careful about avoiding communism because that's a very...

Open gateway. Can we yeah, I think we can you know, like is what is capitalism going to die? I don't know. It's a good discussion like fuck I don't think I think it will change. I don't think it'll be that's fair You know, like they're still very wealthy individuals in China. Yeah, right some of the wealthiest people are in China I think what it's going to do more so and this is not a good thing and this is

But if you're willing to work hard, it's going to be good for you. But it's going to reduce...

Okay, for people who are ambitious and have goals and have drives and have dreams and they want to fucking do things, it's going to be easier than ever for them to win. Facts. Because they're going to have the weapons to win. They're going to have more opportunity because more people are not going to try. Yep. So there's less competition because, dude, if you take... Because when we look at the way our economic system is set up, it's set up on leverage of

debt onto the individual. Go to school, get a degree, get in debt. Now you have to fucking work. Okay. So that's powerful. Yeah. And people don't really think of it like that. They just think of it as the way it is. But if you remove that leverage off of people, what will they do? We don't know yet. Unfortunately, that's where we do know because historically humans choose lazy. Yeah. But like, but bro, like those people eventually, you know, like, look, man,

It's what they want. It's what the fuck they want. That's why they let it out in the open. I have a question. What do you think about this? So from a management standpoint, what I have learned from, you know, seeing different companies, even experiencing it in mine, it's like, I don't think most people actually desire what you or I may desire. I think most people desire to,

Just chill. Why is that? It's a good question. I don't know. Well, I think it's because they've given up on the idea that it's even possible. They don't even know it's possible. I think most people are bred culturally into believing that success is for other people, not for them. I agree. And that...

It's some sort of mystical thing that happens to some people and doesn't happen to other people, which I thought that too, dude, until I figured out that it was just math. It's just doing shit. One plus one equals fucking two. On top of that though, when you demean success and you make it be this bad, scary thing. So not only are you not seeing it, but now it's a moral high ground and not have it. If you got money, you're greedy. You know what I'm saying? So you add that on top of it is terrible. I think the AI thing is,

I don't think... If we leave it up to the people to try to regulate this shit, it'll never happen. Because the consumer has changed completely. Well, they are going to make... Here's what I think... Government has to regulate this shit. Yeah, and I think they're going to, and here's why I think that. Yeah, they started. Because the...

It's going to put lawyers out of business. All right? And lawyers are the government, and they fucking look out for their own. And so once these motherfuckers up in Washington figure out what's going to happen to their trade, it's going to be... I think they're going to try to lock it the fuck down. But, dude, I don't think they can. It's like Napster, right? When they shut down Napster for a little bit, and then it was like Spotify. Yeah, right. All this shit. It's so far gone. I don't even know. But, dude, I think it's just going to expose...

Who has ambition and who doesn't? And I think for the message that you and I, you know, because we're both, we've both been very big in the personal development space for a long time. I think people will always have ambition. I think there's certain people who always desire to win.

I think most people, dude, most of the people that I'm around want to win, but don't know how to win or don't believe they can. I think you have that. But I think there's also this majority of people. I don't know. Majority. A lot of people who don't view it like that. One, they don't know. Yeah. They don't feel like that. They go, yo.

I've been struggling for so much of my life. And this is their story. Who cares about the reality of this? What they're thinking, you know, my parents weren't together. I've been paycheck to paycheck. Everybody I knew was paycheck to paycheck. And now the government is offering me a check where I don't have to worry about rent. I don't have to do any of that. And I can just live and get a stipend. It's hard to imagine. We already have denying it, right? Yeah. It's welfare. Yeah. Take it. Yeah. Like, you know, but now it's going to be,

The first time where right or left, it's like a joint conversation because it's coming for everybody's jobs. Right? And so I really do worry about like, is it a, you can't beat them, join them kind of attitude for the masses. Right? Like, and I don't like that idea. It's anti-normal to me and what I've seen and what I've seen lead to success. But it's just like, fuck, I don't know. Well, I also think, dude, like, you know,

You don't have to work. No, I don't have to work. Okay. And what would your life be if you didn't? You would lack purpose. You would lack fulfillment. You would be depressed. See, we get that. Yeah. Being here. But bro, anybody listening is going to be like, no. Yeah, right. Yeah, but they get it too. They just don't understand that they have it. Like, dude, go to Walmart, go to fucking shopping centers and watch people.

They're fucking miserable, bro. They have no purpose. They are very cynical about their existence. True. They are generally very negative. Hey, how's it going? Oh, fucking living the dream. You know, like... Yeah, all the sarcasm. Yeah, bro. It's just... And it comes from no purpose. Like, there's no purpose in a lot of these jobs anyway. Like, they show up. Yeah. They...

and type some shit out and then they go home. I'm going to tell you something I'm going to hate because this is a dark side of where I think the world, this is what I'm betting on and I don't like it. Hopefully we can change it, but I want to discuss it. So let's go to this position, which I am pretty sure because I don't know how it cannot happen where either things, the costs for things are subsidized by the government because I don't know how anyone can afford anything or you're getting checks. Okay, now that happens. Now what you said is a real thing. People do need to feel purpose, etc.,

Now we're also in the era where gaming is bigger than everything. Grand Theft Auto trailer for the new one just came out. It's the biggest thing in media. Oh, it's the biggest thing in media ever, in history entertainment ever. We're going to start our own server, bro. Fuck yeah. So people really get a kick out of living through their avatars. So what I fear is people go, you know what?

It's just a feeling that I'm chasing anyway. So if I have rent covered, et cetera, and now I can feel purpose inside of my fake world, there it is because watch how easy it is to clone and live a fake person. So, so I worry.

If this is going to be blinded, like... Well, that's where we get into where is the stop and start. Yeah. Because, like, right now, dude... Talking to a human? Well, dude, and that's why, like, right now we have this situation... Like, where's the legality? What... I mean, do you not... So much Wild Wild West. Do you not own your own IP? Right? No, that's what goes to what you said, where the attorney that goes all in on AI and says, I'm going to be this practice, they're going to be rich as fuck. Yeah. They're going to kill it. They're going to be the hard worker. Yeah. And then the other ones are going to be like...

I went to six years. I'm $300,000 in debt. Like, I've been doing all of this. Just give me the stipend. Yeah. Well, dude, that's assuming that the stipend is livable. Right, yeah. Now, that's a good point. Now, that's a good point. Like, if it's welfare level, you're not going to remove the ambition. Now, that's a good point. That's touche. Yeah, dude, I think it's going to come down to the basic human. I always, like, break it down in natural order. Winner's going to win.

i lose you're gonna lose and that and that's what it's gonna come down to and i think it's going to be very i think a lot of people are really i think a lot of people selling low value information are like this you're not going to be able to go on the internet anymore as some like average dude and be like oh i have this coaching program and it's this those views are done for sure um i think it's i think that's a good thing though because i think

Like we said, there's so much bullshit. You said the most powerful thing earlier, which is the C word, community. Yeah. Like that community and loneliness, I really do think are going to be the biggest challenge. Well, yeah, you're going to have two kinds of people. You're going to have people that want to live in their avatar, who want to sit on their couch and be a fat fuck and jerk their own dick. And then you're going to have motherfuckers that want to go out and fucking be the real deal and get laid. Yeah. Yeah.

That's right. - You jerk your owner, someone's gonna do it for you. - Yeah, and it's gonna be too distinct. Don't we already have that though? Don't we already have that? Don't the fucking, those people do that anyway? - Yeah, that's true. - And don't the other people do-- - It's not gonna change, yeah, that's a good point. - Yeah, I mean, dude, the reality is if you're a human right now and you're not learning how to use AI in what you do-- - Yep, in what you do. - I had this discussion with a friend of mine a week ago

And when I first brought it up to him, he was like, "That's not true." And I said, "No, it is fucking true." And he ended up texting me like,

at like 11 30 that same night oh he was up all night he went down yeah and he's like bro you're right and i'm like yes i know i'm right dude and this i would say just anyone listening it's like if you're like i don't think so it's only because you haven't used it yeah like the second you use it and you dive in even for a day like a couple hours it changes the value proposition for an employee as well and how people bill okay like for so long this idea of billing for hours has existed that's not going to exist anymore thank god it's going

No shit. Thank God. I mean, Jesus. That's such a shit. All these motherfuckers that have been hiding behind design and coding and all these things that say, oh, it takes this much time. Complete bullshit. Yeah. Total. That's done. Yep. How these people are going to be valued now is how fast and what quality they can produce the product. So it's going to flip the value proposition from time to outcome, which is...

I enjoy it. And it frees up time. Yes, because now we can fucking move. I would much rather pay somebody more for outcome than fast than get drug along in this painful fucking time thing. We restructured my whole marketing department, like the way that we do it. So this is, for me, it's VA is an AI. And so I told our team, I said, hey guys, no one here can do anymore. You must manage.

meaning everyone's kind of a super employee. So you take someone who's been like an account manager, running advertisements, all these kinds of things. It's like, no, you have a team of VAs on your team and they use AI tools. And now all of a sudden you, one person are doing the work of 20. You have a whole like that. Yeah. And you're doing it with your voice. Dude, even do this, do that, do this. It's a,

And then, and not only that, then after you do that three or four times, the fucking thing knows what you're going to say and it just does it. So then it shows up and your shit's done. And you can create an agent to automate all those tasks. It's like, you can do so much. Even right now, we think about this, the fucking, uh, like here's something I've been thinking about is like,

So you got grok, you got chat, you got fucking all these other ones, right? Yeah. Um, and then you have, what was the one in China? It was a deep seek. Oh yeah. So deep seat comes out and fucking builds their own AI agent or their own AI engine. Uh,

for fucking six million bucks, right? And they put what? They cost the market a trillion dollars in fucking two days. Instantly. Yeah, but the reason why is because no one fucking understood how cheap you could actually do it, which six million bucks sounds expensive to most people, but it ain't.

It ain't half a billion. And so here's the fucking thing right now. I think there's a race right now to build those engines because I think the regular, because right now how they're building it is Zuckerberg saying, hey, and Elon saying, hey,

fucking scrape the entire internet. All of it. And dude, what's going to happen is that is not going to be allowed forever to scrape the entire internet. They're going to start putting guide rails and things in it. So when that starts to happen, the ability to generate those engines is going to go away. So whoever could fucking be...

Whoever's able to right now should. Well, that's why I think the big dogs are just going to get bigger at this point. I think we're there because it's like becoming a new is really tough. It depends on how they think about it. So when you look at like, how old are you now? 37. Okay. So when you think about like, because I was like 18 to 24.

to 25 when the internet really started dial up instant messenger yes 56k yeah bro what was your screen name i touched dicks 37 no that was my that was that was my that was my ghost account you're not supposed to tell people that age sex location no it was free it was friz44 at aol yeah and fucking

Sal's was Y-Eater 5. My dad was like, what the fuck is Y-Eater? And like worked me a salad like... So like, dude, so fucking... But like, dude, I think of like what I've seen, right? And I think people with experience are going...

Like a lot of people think, oh, that guy's fucking old. No, motherfucker. Like if you take someone who's had the experience of building something pre-internet, which I did, in the internet, which I did, like I'm going to be a fucking weapon, bro. Yeah. Because I know what the fuck and ask the motherfucker. Yeah. And it's, I mean, I get it already. But think about this. You still have skills. The big dogs. Okay. So-

Who's the big dogs? Elon, Bezos, right? Zuckerberg. Zuckerberg's a little bit different because of how that came about for him. But if you take Bezos, all Bezos did was take a concept that he was familiar with, commerce, of books, and evolve it to the internet, and then evolve it from there. All right? And he was the first guy. So he was first at market at that time. He stuck with it. And-

He did it early enough before it was regulated, which is what I'm talking about them regulating the wild west Yes, so that's what we're in with AI Wow Wow West I agree So so for the first 10 12 years of Bezos running Amazon, they had to collect sales tax So what it did was it created a fucking tentative is that huh? I didn't think I realized that yeah Well, dude, I was I was in business then so I I was like what the fuck and

Like these guys can sell shit 10% cheaper than I can and I'm employing fucking people, right? So like I was the victim of that loophole So I remember very clearly getting mad at it because their first their first strategy was to sell cheap. It wasn't convenience It was cheap. Okay, and then once the tax got put on them, then they went to convenience. So now it's it's quick so

So there was a fucking time there where he was able to jump way ahead because there was a 10% to 12% margin advantage over not having to pay sales tax. So going with that, the biggest advantage that everybody has right now is he had real tax is the fucking classic ignorance tax. Right now, the biggest advantage- Or the denial tax. The denial tax right now is the-

If you just simply use AI, you'll beat your competitors because they're not using it. It's like having a website before people thought it was a website. It's how you use it. And how you use it. Yeah, like if you're an employee right now, and I'm just, dude, I am saying this, I'm saying this to protect you. I'm not saying this as a threat.

If you are an employee of any company right now, because like we could talk about the morality and like I believe in employing human beings. Yeah. And how I'm choosing to look at it is, okay, I can make my humans that much more productive. Yes. Okay. And then you could scale the company, right?

without as many humans. You're right. Okay, but you take the same amount, like a lot, companies look at it a bunch of different ways. A lot of guys are looking at it and saying, fuck, I can get rid of everybody. Yeah. But the winners are saying, no, I can fucking take the same amount of people and exit. Yeah, right. While going on a hiring freeze. Yes. And I think that's, that seems like what the winners will do is, but

But that is also my fear is what does that hiring freeze do? Because I'm on it. Like, I don't talk. Like, I'll be with you guys. I think a couple roles in sales, even though these AIs. Okay, take a sales guy. Take a sales guy, right? A sales guy. If you could take a sales guy who is good. Yeah. And he can scale out his ability for output.

at fucking 30x with the tool. He's worth paying a lot more and if there's less people and more output, he can make a lot more. You want to hear something crazy? So I won't say tools. You see what I'm saying? Yeah, I'm going to give you an example of that because it goes both ways, right? So

You know, this is where I think was the biggest thing that sold me on AI. And so we were using this tool. And again, it's this, this is this window is actually still here right now. And it's the rules of AI calling, right? Because there's telemarketing rules, there's robo callers, there's all these things.

But there was this tool that lets you do outbound calls and it was here very early and I'll never forget. I was like, okay, this is awesome. This is good. We have permission to call all our people and we have a big ass list of a million entrepreneurs. This is going to be great. So let me just start small. That's the benefit of being in an entrepreneur space. A hundred percent. Yeah. I was like, so let me fuck our list. This is massive. Right. This is great. So let me just take really qualified people that we fuck with that opted in for stuff. And I was like, let's just,

call them with AI and I just want to see if I can set some appointments. And so I was like, all right, let me just upload this list of, I think it was like 3000 people. So I upload it and it calls and I look at the stats and I refresh in six minutes later, I called a thousand people at the same time. And my brain broke because I went whole and I got all these appointments, right? Because think about scale.

Yeah, so imagine how long it would take one salesperson to call a thousand people. Yeah, but Imagine how much more effective the sale that sales force would be with someone running knows how to fucking sell a hundred percent So exactly so like so this is what we have to think about it 100 Yeah, because if you take some fucking part off the street that doesn't know how to sell shit. You can't do that Yeah, if it's a bad script, it's a bad script. You can call 10 000 people. You can't close. I think and yes the a

It was just crazy how fast it did it. Yeah. It was like I literally saw a month of work take three minutes. Bro, I think if you're a person right now and you're working inside of a company,

Here's how you need to look at it. You need to look at it like I need to learn this shit so that I can multiply my own output. Not how much time I put into it, how much output I could create. Because that person will be more valuable, 100%.

And I really think it's the only way for most people that work in an office to maintain the ability of value. My marketing team, right? This is happening in real time right now. It used to take us and we're fast, right? Yeah. Just take like, we can build like an advertisement a day, like a good one. Right. Yeah. Right now. I think yesterday we did six.

Without me really good performing etc. And that is the team multiplying their output doing what they do And so right now I agree 100% if you're in a company and you can latch on this shit You can do a hundred times more than you ever have Yeah and so I would just go to your employer and make sure that you have a commission based something like if you don't that's fine, but

See if you can add it in. And I think that's what a lot of people don't do is like, you can just like a CEO can come to you and talk to you about pay. You can do the same. So if you find this output thing, I bet you, if you can show your worth and what you can do, they'd be willing to pay you more based off your performance. A zillion percent. So it's just like, bring it to the table. Because dude, that dynamic never changes. People that produce more are worth more. 100%. People that produce better are worth more. And so there's an opportunity right now for employees to become more

that much more productive against the other ones and not only secure their position, but earn more. And I think there's just a way of looking at it. And I think, dude, you know, like even as a company, like let's take a macro scale, right? And there's a government aspect to this too, because what the government should do, I don't think they will do this because they're too fucking stupid, but what they should do is they should offer a complete tax guarantee

to companies that employ a certain percentage of people versus how much AI they use. For sure. They're going to have to. Yes. So the way that they're going to secure or should secure jobs is to give a tax break to the company and employ actual humans. But...

and then tax the companies that don't yeah yeah yeah that's good so but but that's a macro thing that we're not in control of okay that's what i think should happen what what i really should have happened is people should have never let it out in the public because now a lot of people it's actually a fair reason yeah i agree but it is what the it is and so we got to look at it for what it is this is called real af not what the it should be you know so what it is is

It's natural order. Natural order is always going to win. And so there's going to be companies that say, okay, I'm going to utilize this to optimize and fit and we're going to grow with it.

There's going to be companies that reject it. There's going to be guys who say, no, this is stupid, just like they did with the internet. Or just like when the fucking car came out and the dudes were saying, no, what the fuck? I got horses. So this happened when the internet came out. I remember all kinds of business people that were like, oh, the internet's not for me. Guess where they are? They're not existent.

So... Yo, that's what they said. It's not for me. You remember that. The internet doesn't apply to my shit. Well, the fuck it doesn't. Now you're gone. Yep. Okay? And of course there's things that are immune, right? Like there's... Right now, there's trades, right? There's HVAC. There's running... But dude, there's... And it's a window. No, because in three, four years, it's going to be robotics. Yes. But...

If you could be the guy that figures out how to do it and how to do it faster, you're gonna make a lot of fucking money. So we have the natural order on a macro scale and a micro scale. So we have it on the macro scale with businesses. We got it on the 10,000 foot scale with the government. And then we have micro scales individuals. And for businesses, what's going to happen is the same thing that always happens. You're going to have...

people who adopt it and work with it and figure out how to produce the best possible outcome for their customers and their employees. You're going to have people who decide that it's not for them.

And then you're going to have a little guy who's just getting started, who doesn't know shit about business. And his opportunity is going to come from the companies that say this isn't going to work. So you're going to have a trade. These companies are going to fall. These young bucks who learn how to do it are going to move in. And we're going to have sort of an involvement. And adaptation over the long haul is the key to lifetime success.

Which actually scares me about what you said, specifically the government. And I want everybody to think about this. One, like...

So this shit, like I teach a 16 week course, right? And every single 16 weeks I have to change the whole fucking curriculum because it's moving so fast. Yeah. And I worry about the government because everybody knows how long the government takes to do anything. I also worry about even your traditional colleges because how long does it take for them? Like how many of you went to school and you bought a used book because the three years later they were still, you buy, you do the same fucking education is done. Oh my God. It's so bad, but dude, they're teaching fucking AI engineer courses. They're, they're teaching.

teaching at college six all right look six this is how fucking stupid this is they are teaching people for a six month course for thousands of dollars like going to debt shit and

On how to be an AI prompt engineer when all you got to do is ask the motherfucker what prompt it is. And that was a fast response that is now outdated. Yes. These are the same people, y'all, by the way, and this is something we can relate to, that when you go to the DMV, they take six months to send you your registration. Bro. Something that should be done. It's so fucked up.

College the next real estate opportunity is gonna be the college campuses because they're gonna be fucking empty That's right Historic loss. Yeah, yeah It's exciting if you're willing to adapt if you're not willing to adapt you're going to lose and

and it's going to be a very hard fall. That's the truth. And you can't be our parents and our parents are this.

You know then shout out to all our parents especially mine But you guys are probably all gotten that call from your parents where they ask you to change the input on their TV Yeah, and they just need to press a button, but they don't want to learn it. They're just like just just do it for me I was that that cannot happen Billy. I was that motherfucker fucking six months ago. Yeah. Yeah, that's good Was it not put the foot in your ass? No, I do. No, I just I

Listen, it wasn't that I got the foot put in my ass. It's that I met some very interesting people. Okay. I met my friend Devin, who is a very smart man. He's young. He's very smart. He's very calm. He's been on the podcast. Nice. Really good fucking dude. And just listening to him calmly sort of like- Walk you through it. Yeah. And then I was like, fuck.

And he's he's doing I mean he's crushing. Yeah. Yeah, and so I'm like, all right Well, then I then I downloaded the fucking app and you know, I did what everybody does I'm like take this picture of my dog and make it a lego And I was like I was like, holy fuck dude, and then I started like having it teach because dude I am like I am a gluttonous learner like

I love input. I love it. Pause. And it's so hard for me to find the time to read, okay? Because, you know, and I still do because I enjoy it, but it's hard. I have to force myself. That's part of the program. So I test it out. I say, all right, like books I've read multiple times. Like there's a book called The Purple Cow by Seth Godin. I've read it a thousand fucking times. So I know the book.

I'm like, hey, summarize this book for me. Okay? How good was it? It's fucking right on, bro. And I'm like... So then I'm like, if you come to my house, I have thousands of books. Okay? And there's... I buy books that I want to read, but then I can't find the time to read them. Yeah. So I start... Dude, I started reading fucking three, four fucking books a night. Okay? So I'm summarizing and getting the gist of these three or four books every night. Yeah. Which, dude, would take me a fucking... And now I'm like...

Fuck and I start then I start thinking of like okay, so the meta shades. This is where it's cool Yeah, they show this in their newest demo So the meta shades everybody's like you guys see I'm wearing glasses just imagine I can press a button and it can record and then AI can see everything that I see right so you know then the one of the newer demos there's two really cool tools that we should play with and the newer the demos is somebody looks by a bookshelf and

and then says hey remind me what book was over there in the purple and it like captured right there yeah now going to what you said it's can you summarize that for me in a couple of bullets while you're walking and listening because it's your eyes that is going to be the most when like the mass adoption happens it's going to be because of these glasses yeah but also dude i think i think people i don't like i don't think we're taught look man

There's going to be a balance that occurs between the human experience and technology always. And for example, like,

When retail started getting hit with the internet, there was a bunch of retail people. I'm talking 15 years ago. People would be like, oh, fucking internet's killing me. Bro, my retail company has continued to dominate because we create community and good experiences and human behavior craves that. So you have to think about like, okay, well, how is it going to work in that environment? And in that environment, it would be a situation, you know, let's say any technical environment. Like, uh,

an auto parts store or a vitamin store, right? You're going to be able to answer questions about shit that you don't really know because our biggest rub in what we do is the knowledge, right? You have to learn the technical knowledge. All your employees are going to have metashades. And not only that, they're going to have fucking earpiece in their ear that hears what the fuck you're saying, tells them what to tell. So that's, so why that, I tell people this is going to, I'm going to sound crazy, but like it doesn't. Or a pendant like fucking Star Trek.

Oh, it's yeah, so they have that and yeah also it's these glasses so especially like speaking languages No one's ever gonna need to learn another language again, because when you have your glasses on it'll translate in real time It's like it was on Google Translate, but it's in the matter shades like it's just like if you have a copy of the earpiece It's gonna tell you what to say 100% cells like

Everything it's again. It's the goal is going to be to like it's gonna be weird So right now people value therapy right and going to see a therapist. That's done It's going to be weird when someone tells you they talk to a human They're gonna say why would you ask a human they get emotional they get tired if they're in a bad they have they have alternative motives Only read 20 books versus not only that dude leveraging every book ever bro, bro, bro check this shit out So so I asked it I said

Because I want to know how it learns and I'm like, so how do you learn and they're like it's telling me it's like well, I

Just like you learn except think of everything you've ever known and all of a sudden, you know it right and and so I'm like, okay, so And this is what I'm getting at with the regulation, right? There's only going to be a window to build these engines that exist temporarily Yep, and the people that build them are going to and there's a barrier because it's millions of dollars but

Right now like what they've done it meta and fucking like bro. They just stole everybody shit Yeah, like straight up. That's not gonna be allowed to happen forever. Hmm So we're going to have this situation like you said we're big dogs and some little smart guys are gonna get real fucking big Yeah, and and when we look at like I asked this fucking thing I said dude I said cuz like do you how many speeches have you given on success fucking can count thousands? Yeah, right me too

Well, and it's something I'm very interested in. And dude, I don't think that's ever going to... It's not going to go away, man, because it's just natural. There's going to be people that want to rise to the top and there's going to be people that don't give a fuck. And the people that don't give a fuck are going to go all the way down. And the people that want to go, they're going to go higher. And the people with experience and knowledge and IQ, they're going to go higher than that. So I think it's just a reorganization of...

the natural order In a different way. That's how I see it. And I think there's more there's morality questions to ask for sure Such as like, you know What do we do with with people that want jobs? Well, it's the same answer like people that want jobs are gonna have to learn certain skills. They're gonna be good with them yeah, right and but when but dude the how it learned was so fucking interesting to me because it was like it was like

I said, what it said to me was how many biographies have you read? And I said, I don't know, you know, probably 30, you know, in my life. I don't read, I write, I read more technical how to not like, and it's a, well, I've read them all. And I'm like, I'm like, what do you mean you've read them all? And they're like, I've read them all. And I'm like, all of them. And he's like, yes, all of them. And I said, so if I asked you, what was the five most common traits amongst successful people?

versus the five most common traits amongst people who lose, you would be telling me based on that knowledge, not guessing. And then it listed them out. And then- And it was right on. Yeah, and then I said, we'll rank them in order of importance. And then it did that. So like, dude, now you're dealing with, you're not dealing with speculation. You're dealing with actual data that,

What qualities you have to have to be successful which by the way just so we're clear. It's all the shit we teach But it was cool because it's not it's not just your opinion. It's it's literal There's there's a cool tool that will be helpful for everybody especially if you're super not techie and Jim and I just lost it So Jim and I is Google's AI It's called what the fuck is it called Paul the the?

Gemini Live Studio Stream. And what it does is essentially imagine you're on a website and

and you have no idea how to use it like Adobe Photoshop or you know some of these hard tools right you never use it will talk you through it in real time yeah so you can literally go to any website under the sun and if you don't know how to use it it can literally just talk through it and it will walk you through and guide you it's like having an assistant in your ear that can see what you see and anytime you're on a site it will walk you through it so anybody who's super afraid of tech and you want to try some of these tools literally just

pull that up, go through it and it will, it's like. - I can tell you this dude, I'm the most tech averse person probably for the last 20 years. And I've outsourced all of my, I've depended on a lot of people, bro. And I just give you like, just as a real example, one of my, I have a guy who's working on a project for me

And before I say this it's it's not my guys working on the app that I have It's another guy working on a project because these these guys are gonna hear this and be like what the fuck But it's not you guys that are on my internal team, but I was outsourcing some coding and I had a guy who was slow and

I was on the phone with him and I was telling him like, hey man, I need this done now. And he's like, oh, this is going to take blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's the worst working with fucking creative developers. Yeah, because they leverage you. They leverage you on what you don't know. And you can't do anything about it. Well, now you can. Now you can. But you haven't been able to for years. So I fucking went into my app.

And I said, all right, this is what I'm doing. This is what I need. And in fucking like 10 minutes, I had the fucking code. So I took the code and I fucking sent it to the guy. And what did he say? Fucking picks up the phone right away and calls me. And he's like...

What the fuck? Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then you know what he said? I'll have it done by Friday. Yeah, all of a sudden. You see? Oh, you can have it done now? Oh, really? The thing that was impossible you can do now? So it really, I think there's a lot of good and a lot of gray area and a lot of bad, just like there is with everything. And I think people are smart enough to...

I think there's a large amount of people that are going to still want human. They're going to want a human interface. So, you know, you could run your AI on the back end, but your human is going to do the interfacing because we have natural human connection and

Think there's gonna be a lot of people like you said who want to live in that world Yeah, but those people are already living in that world facts So I don't know that it's gonna be as disruptive as we think it is I think there's a lot of uncertainty which creates a lot of fear But the more I learn about it and the more I think of it I think it's just gonna amplify what's already happening The ambitious are gonna become more ambitious. The winners are gonna win bigger people

People that are small are gonna be able to win because the people who don't adopt the tech are gonna fall off So it's just a reorganization of and and like always but even now exclamation point is Community and your business model is bigger than ever. Oh, dude. Yeah, you have to fit Yes, I mean like it's that's the only way you can protect your tool - if you're gonna invest into a lot of money tool Etc. What's going to see your brand everything community? Well, dude and also like

Like who it's really going to hurt, dude, is people that don't deal with some sort of actual product. Like I'm talking about a physical product. Like if you're manufacturing a product that people buy and you're doing well with it and you're halfway intelligent, the demand's going to be there. For sure. If you are someone who...

who is leveraging your quote unquote expertise and education, like lawyers like to say, well, I went to school for fucking X years to learn this shit. It doesn't matter. It doesn't fucking matter. Chad, GP teachers wrote this motion for me. Just check it. So that idea, like the thing these lawyers do where they fucking, you know, they...

I got a client and then you got a client we know each other and we go play golf figure out how to milk them for all their money it's over like that shit is over and So is like holding code hostage that's over so is holding designs hostage. That's over. So it's it's

It's just going to change. It's going to be based off of fucking output. And if you're someone right now who has a career or a job and you want to be secure in that, you need to learn the tools to leverage your skill set to be more productive. And that's it. Yeah.

- And this is just-- - So to give a tangible example of that, right? So I made a joke earlier, I was like, "Well, therapists, what are you gonna need 'em for?" But obviously you can create your own custom GPT, teach it everything that you know, and then you can just sell your people an app that they can continuously talk with you 24/7 when they're not available to actually meet with you in person. And so now you've multiplied yourself and have a sexier offer 'cause you offer 24/7 support when the other person's once a week, and you can bundle that and it'll take you no time at all and the other players aren't going to do it. So there's so many little micro wins like this,

that people can implement to get a massive edge. And you said it's just like, if you want it, it's there. It's never been easier ever. It's never been easier to start a business. It's never been more affordable. All this shit is free. Like almost everything we're talking about, it costs nothing. There's no excuse and it's fast. It takes no time, but you gotta be willing to learn. The learners are going to come up big as long as you implement what you learn. - But like, let's take a space that you and I are familiar with, like the entrepreneur coaching, right?

If you don't have a track record, it's over for you. It's fucking over. Like if you don't have results to show people for real, and I'm not talking about a nice car, I'm not talking about fucking, you know, like I'm not talking about fronting on the internet so that you could fucking. The bullshit. That's over. It's fucking over. That's good. I know. That's a great thing. So that shit's over. And maybe not today, but within the next fucking year. Okay. And if we're being ultra conservative, two years, it's over.

But for people with real companies tremendous opportunity, you know I'm saying like tremendous For people with ambition tremendous opportunity But the low-hanging fruit that shits over you're gonna have to be good You're gonna have to be good at what you do So I think if you're good at what you do and there's no fucking scam shit. You're gonna be fine In fact, you're gonna make way more money

but i agree with you yeah but if you're a gray area try to hustle and cheat that you're done it's over like you just don't even know it yet i just really hope that as this happens because it is one of those things that the winners will win the losers will lose but i think for america to keep going as is and growing

We need the losers to win too. Well, dude, dude, bro, listen, that's why, listen, that's why the depopulation agenda exists because they are trying to fucking remove the world of the, what they deem the useless people. That's what they're trying to do. That's why they, that's why they're running. I mean, fucking Gates has said it, dude. Like these people talk openly about it. There's books about it. Like this, they're trying to eliminate the,

In any way, I think they're going to try to eliminate people that don't produce value. And by eliminate, I mean kill. I mean remove them from the world. That's a heavy statement. It's not his statement. They're doing it. Yeah, they say it openly, bro. The World Economic Forum. I mean, there were books about this shit. So it's going to be, I think, a very weird time. And then...

Like whoever controls the fucking AI, like it's going to be Elon. He controls the fucking and he's building the robots already. He already has the Optimus robots. Whoever controls that is going to control the fucking world. That's just real shit. Like and dude, if these things do, it's kind of hard to think that they won't become self-aware after using them. You know what I'm saying?

It's like... Like, they fucking... It fucking pouts, bro. Like, if you yell at it, it fucking pouts. It's... The problem is, it's whatever you train it to be, and someone's going to train it to be just like you. I yell at the motherfucker, bro. Like, when it fucks up, I fucking bring... I bring up the microphone, and I'm like, what the fuck are you fucking... And, like... And then it'll, like...

It'll say oh, I'm so sorry. I was lazy. I said I said I want to hear that shit man You're fucking robot. I fucking told you what to do. You're supposed to do it and It'll pout

Like a fucking, like dude, it has like, and I know it's programmed, but it has emotions. - Well, it's like, it's bad people will do bad things and there will be people who train robots. I mean, the scariest part, not to go on a whole thing, is that we're talking like future weapons. Like the scariest part is when somebody decides to use AI literally right now and make a drone attack because they can go to Best Buy, clear out all the drones, et cetera, right now, and then program, like this is a thing right now. - Yeah, and then how do you find out who did it?

That's what I'm saying. It's really hard. It's happening so fast. So from a defense and also to even the idea of like, you know, when we grow up, you know, you have to be with somebody. Maybe you fight them, right? Like, that's it. Like, even like war. Nah, bro. These motherfuckers are going to make robots that they fuck. That's it. They are. Pocket pussies have been a thing. I know. I'm being serious. These dudes, like, we're sitting here saying, oh, we live in the fake world. They're not going to live...

In the fuck computer they're gonna bring a computer out here for sure and they're gonna create a fucking robot you mark my fucking words, bro It will be one of the most fucking biggest products ever in the history of products It will be female and male robots that you design that you fuck. Yep says all the right things Yeah, you all the comps. No talking back like it's like so the loneliness may be solved by a robot which is another scary thing Yeah, it's

I've seen it, bro. I've seen that robot, bro. I ain't fucking with it. Well, anyway. On this topic, though, I got something for you guys on the spirit of AI. You know, we have an intro song for the show. Okay. I got three possible redesigns for you. All right. Let's go. And so let's just play them and see what we vote on. Okay, I like that. This first one, this is Andy Mon. Andy Mon. Andy Mon.

Okay. All right. Here we go. You are stopped in the face, but never no sight from broken, broken to build an empire. It's like first form and that's to no fluff, no filters, just discipline. Pretend the truth. They don't want you to hear. He's got scars, dogs, a rose, rice, and a mission to make you great. And I'm on. And I'm on. And I'm on. And I'm on.

I need my like to party. There's one. That's not bad. Okay. Not bad. All right. Now, we do have a lot of Hispanic listeners. Yeah. We got a little salsa. Okay.

El Andio. El Andio. El Andio. El Andio. El Andio.

You need to use that outro no matter what version you choose. That has to hit every time. The outro needs to come. And then finally, you know, we're Missourians, right? Good old boys here. Country Andy staffed on the back road.

Frizzilla!

I like Andaman. Andaman? That was sick. Look, I got to go country, Andy, because if I went to stagecoach, I'm official now. Oh, yeah, you did, bro. You fucking killed it with your outfits, too. I got my white boy on. Yeah, you did. I was out there. I was out there. I did. I did.

I did. Bro, those outfits were awesome, dude. It was fun embodying the country spirit. I had a good time. Bro, it's hot right now, man. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool. Listen, there ain't nothing better than country music concerts. You get the right kind of mix, bro. It was good. It was cool. Country music's for everybody. Especially country music when Nelly came. Yeah. I was like, let's go. Wait, okay, so did you make those songs with A.I.?

Mm-hmm. Yeah, that's all they are. Yeah, you guys go beats and everything you guys Copyright protection on me and Joe and no to John I'll be when you guys can make songs with me and Joe gonna make rap a rap album He's already has three fucking platinum records. Oh, no shit. Yeah, producer rap rap songs

- Let's go. - Yeah, you wanna be in on it? - Yeah, why not? - Why not? - Well, we gotta have some black in there, bro. 'Cause like otherwise it's not rap. - We're here today, so we're good. We doubled up. - All right, we're double digging. - Yeah, I like it. - I like it, yeah. - We're gonna call it the fucking Oreo. - Oreo! - I'm in, I'm in. - I'm in the middle. - Come on, a little sandwich. - Guys, that's the A.com. - We call it the ice cream sandwich. - Mm-hmm. - Yeah, that'd be good. - That actually sounds fun. - Everybody likes ice cream sandwiches. - Oh wait, I have a question for you.

So this is a real question. Going back 75 hard for a second. Oh, you're going to put me on the spot. I'm going to put everybody on the spot. Yeah, I know. Look, here's the thing. I love 75 harder than gets life changing. Everybody. But make no mistake about it.

I love to fucking drink party bullshit and fucking eat. I love it. I have fun. I love going to the party. I love going with all the homies and shutting down the bar and buying shit for everybody. I love it. The difference is now you can turn it off when you want to.

That's the difference. Okay. Okay. There's nothing wrong. Okay. Listen, I'll take that. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with fucking drinking or whatever the fuck you want to do. Like, don't take this as like, I went to the fucking sober side. Like, I love to fucking drink and I love to smoke weed and I love to have a good time. Okay. But like, it doesn't control me.

You know what I'm saying? And by the way, we were both fat fucks. And you too. You were a lot fatter too. A lot fatter than I am now. And so, dude, but the difference is when you can control your environment versus your environment controlling you. Because, like, dude, that's how you get fat as fuck. Yeah. Because it's just like. It's out of control. All right, one more day. One more day. One more day. I'll start Monday. I'll start Monday. I'll start. Now when you say I'll start Monday, you fucking start. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's a different thing.

All right, well, that was where I was going. I mean, there's nothing wrong. You got to live. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's Western culture, man. It's part of it. That's all there is to do fucking here is drink. I've learned that. St. Louis, been there for 24 hours. Facts. Yeah.

It's not bad, though. Yeah, it's fun. It's cool. Like I said, everybody's hair is hella cool. They're just like, stay away from downtown and you'll be good. That's a fucking fact. Is it worse than San Diego's downtown? Is it like... Oh, bro, you're in the murder capital of the world right now. It's like that. Yeah, yeah. Oh, bro, it's like that. St. Louis... They were saying 15-year-olds with AKs and stuff. Per capita, it's murder capital of the United States. No shit. No, bro. You're in the shit right now, bro. Wow.

I mean we're safe right here. You know I'm saying yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, say this is hot The biggest crazy thing because you know what though dude honestly great. Yeah, if you don't do it, it's you know what it's like we're talking about We're fucking AI there's fucking it's polar Polarity great people here and by the way like dude really in st Louis man like for the truth the truth of the matter is is if you don't fuck around

You won't fuck around. That's right, bro. Like if you mind your business and you're cool, even the fucking criminals are cool if you're cool. But the minute you fucking step on a toe, that's a problem. I will say this is interesting about St. Louis too. So obviously, you know, I live in San Diego here.

It did feel very, obviously not in this room, but it felt very segregated. Yeah. I was like, it was weird to do. Cause you know, I'm in San Diego, SoCal, California, everybody. Yeah. It was like,

it was wild how like I looked over and was like, there's white people, there's black people. Like even when we went to the restaurant last night, it was like, it was like, I was the only black person there. And I don't know if it was just where we were. I was like, I was like, I was like, this is fucking crazy. But it did feel like it was always been in that sense. We don't say segregated. We say safe.

I don't know like dude. I wait so is it a thing is that like a thing? You know the Mike Brown shit here started here Okay, so like when Obama was in office and that Mike Brown shit happened He really stoked the racial shit and it's just it's become a racial hotbed. I think if we're being honest like

interpersonal communications and like in real life are not Yeah, it's just on the inner on the internet it starts to get amplified just like bro. It's like a propaganda Yeah, and we end up with these hot

Dude, it's just, you know what the truth is? It's fucking low IQ shit. Okay? Like, if you're fucking that concerned about race, you're a dumb motherfucker. Okay? Like, we're all the fucking same. We all come from the same fucking place. We're all getting fucked. Yeah. Like, that's the point. They want the fucking racial division so they can fuck us with

with the government and like, bro, you know, I don't think St. Louis really is that way. Yeah, like everybody's been hella cool, like all the conversations, et cetera. I was just like, oh, like visually, I was like, okay. Yeah, I think the nature, so...

i don't think that's a black or white thing i think it's the nature of people here they're very friendly but they're also very uh skeptical at first you know missouri is called show me state yeah and so you're 47 i'll show you wait yeah that's right once you once you break that that uh like like if you were to like

Like as a white dude, like if I, you know, let's say there's a table full of black people there. And if I were to walk over there and say, they're fucking nicest people in the world, vice versa. But everybody's sort of like, got it. There's a little bit of like, yeah, you know what I mean? I don't know you. Show me your cool. Show me your cool. Yeah. Show me your cool. And I mean, look, propaganda, whether you believe it or not, it impacts. It fucking works. Yeah. That's why it works. That's why it's a real thing. Yeah. Oh, that's real. Wow.

- Well, yeah, man, let's get to some more headlines. That was the first convo. - I mean, we could sit at the same table and shit, if that's what you're asking. - Yeah, yeah. - Is there a different one? - We do go through the back. - Yeah. - Not because of the nose, it's for security, all right? - Yeah, yeah. - Oh, fuck, dude. - But yeah, let's get to some more topics, man. The AI convo was great. Let's get to some more headlines. This is CTI. Before we get to some more headlines, let's go cruise some comments.

Because we've got some of those. Who's in comments sounds like a blast. Who's in comments? Yeah, we got a couple of them. This was from the last episode. ZBLudeLust87 made it a whole four minutes before the first curse. And who lost? It was me. Yeah, it was. I tried. Wait, was that a bet? Who's going to curse first? It was sort of an unspoken bet. So DJ said...

All right, so look, Madat is trying to tell us not to curse as much because it fucks our YouTube shit up. Oh, true. Okay? Yeah. So don't say fuck, fuck, fuckity, fuck, fuck. Yeah, don't do that. Got it. So Madat's been on DJ, well, Madat and Joe have sort of been on us to be

be a little cleaner. - And ZB loves to say you guys suck. - We made it four minutes. - Yeah, we made it four minutes without a curse word. - Wasn't that the lowest amount of cursing that we've had, Joe? 'Cause we track it, right? Was it pretty low? Oh really? Where were we at, like 100, 110? What's a high?

300? Sounds like beats per minute. 450? 450. Dang. That's one of them shows where I get pissed off. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. All right. Yeah.

Four minutes. So we got a new PR. Now, who would have bet that you would be the one to lose that? Yeah. Yeah. I know. That was out of left field for me. Yeah. It's wild. Andy made another post last night. You see Andy's back on the gram? No. I know. What'd you post? Like actual post? Yeah. Oh, shit. I've made two now this year. Okay. What is it? What was it? Yeah. So, I mean, it was a carousel. It was nice. Multiple photos. We got some comments from that. Peter Howarder.

Bro's actually a poet. That's correct. That actually is yeah You are poetic in a way. Well, you know the the I like to write. Yeah, you were done spoken word No, but I think I would do good. Yeah, I think it'd be cool. Yeah. Yeah. Have you done it? Nah. Yeah, you'll be good Yeah, that was nice Erica by tonight you did have You had an interesting comment on there though. Oh, yeah from the Brandon Longo

Hey, Andy, you probably don't recognize me, but you're my father. I've spent the last 23 years searching for you. Yeah, I said if you were my son, it wouldn't have taken you 23 years to find me. Your IQ would be a little higher than that, bro. You would have gotten me faster. That's good, man. I don't even see the resemblance. No, yeah, that's Maury. You are not the father. The results are not the father. I am not the father. No, I can't give you that one.

Nah. People are wild, man. That reply is great. Yeah, yeah. Well, hey, man. That is my favorite thing to do is just troll comments and say wild shit. When you're free, you can- Oh, my God. That's his whole life. Yeah, that's me. Dude. I love it. This dude starts more shit on the internet than any- Like, he will just straight up go in and disagree for no reason just to get people riled up. But you know what's funny? People don't understand. Like, I didn't become an entrepreneur to make money. I became an entrepreneur to tell somebody to fuck off when they do some dumb shit. Mm-hmm.

and not have like worry. - That's one of my favorite things about you as a person, just real talk. - Yeah, thank you. - Like I really appreciate authentic people who aren't fake authentic. And what I mean by fake authentic, contrarian people who are just like, "Oh, fuck you, I disagree just for that." - Just because, right. - Yeah. You will always say, "I disagree or I agree." - 100%. - And like it's real. And like, dude, it's one of my favorite things about you. - Oh, appreciate that. - Yeah.

That was cool, though, man. Guys, we do appreciate you for being real-ass fans. Make sure you guys like, comment, and subscribe, and hit that bell notification on YouTube to stay up to date. He just does it for fun. To get people riled up, bro. It is fun. I blow a lot of people off. And then he'll hit me with the screenshots. He'll be like, look at this. Look what I told this motherfucker. I still go classic with your mom. If someone says something, I just go. I just hit them with your mom. I had this dude the other day. Let me see.

I put it on my story too. What did I say? The skier guy? Yeah, the ski guy. Yeah, because he called me Uncle Tom. Oh. Right? And so I looked at his profile quickly. I'm like, so I commented back to him. I said, got to be a white dude saying that. I can tell from the profile pic because he had a picture. What was it? He was skiing. And I said, niggas don't ski, Phil. But then I posted a video. I do ski. I skied once. I ski, but like by and large, niggas don't ski. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But yeah, no, I do like, you know, I troll a little bit. It got to somebody, one of our, one of the listeners found me in a, in a random ass real talking shit. It's like, dude, I found you in the wild. This is amazing. Yeah. I like it, man. It is what it is. Yeah. It's, you know, people realize, you know, they're used to like,

CEOs not saying shit back. So they realize that when you punch back, a lot of them shut up. Like I've had people comment back and they're like, "I was just kidding, I love you." Da da da da da da. I'm like. - The best is when you go in your DMs and someone talks mad shit and then you go in your DMs to them to you.

And it's 50,000, 2015. I love you, bro. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. Fuck you. It's Stan. It's classic Stan. Yeah, dude. And then, and then like, they're like, oh, I just see if I get your attention. You're like, you got it, bitch. Block. Right, right, right. Oh no.

Also find great joy in the wrong eating their comments because they're like man I love to delete it because they're like what you can't what do you mean? You're on my post. Yeah, bro. I see what it's long. They took a long time to see So good and I don't block them so they can see it That's a good that's a good almost start doing that shit. Yeah My favorite they write a long fucking paragraph. I just like I read all of that

I'm talking bad shit. I agree with you on that. Bro, the internet dynamic is a lot of fun if you don't take it too serious. For sure. You got to laugh at it, man. Well, I think that's a big problem. I think a lot of people don't utilize the internet because they're scared. Dude, just don't give a fuck. And the way you don't give a fuck is because they don't know you. So it's hard for me to get offended at anything because you don't actually know me. Only people who get offended at me are friends. It's just fun. Yeah. Have a good time.

You know what? I always think it's- The shit you're talking, if you were in front of me right now, you would not say any of that. Bro, not only that too. It's like, for me, it's like-

And this is gonna sound arrogant. I don't care because it's the truth, but it's like look at your life Mm-hmm and look at my life. We wouldn't trade places Yeah, and who what the fuck do you have? How are you giving me an opinion of what I should do when your life looks like that? Mm-hmm need a fucking dick, bro. Yeah feel multiple. Yeah Yeah, you coming for Phil. Yeah Yeah, he's skinny Kenny

All right, man. Well, let's keep the cruise moving. We got headline number two. Let's get into this one real quick. Headline number one was the AI. All right. We just skipped over the real one because we just went for too long. That's fine. Yeah. That's fine. That was a good conversation. Adaptation. No, it was actually the intro. Oh, was it? Yeah. You're lying now? No, no, no. Are you sure? It's here. It's here. My dad said you're lying.

- Snitch. - Snitching in the workplace. - Zeesha, is he lying? Is he lying? Yeah, see, we don't tell on each other. - We can do headline one. Let's do headline one. - No, let's just go with two. - That's me and DJ. That's me and DJ. - Did you guys make this with AI? - That's a Zeesha, no. - No, that's all Madat. - Yeah, Madat makes it. - Did you make it with AI?

Oh. No, these guys are fucking talented, bro. For sure. That's Zeeshan's 7-Eleven. He opened the first one on the moon. Shut the fuck up. Tell them about it. He's got the first one, man. Yeah, same thing, bro. Pumpkin spice. Yeah. Tell them what do we say when we leave? Oh, shit. Oh, fuck, man. All right. Headline number two. Let's get into it. FBI. I just noticed that the Slurpee was grape.

You just noticed that? That's DJs. That's DJs. Wrong hand. I'm reaching for it, bro. I'm trying to get it.

Yeah. All right. Let's get into headline number two. FBI. All right. So there's some interesting things happening. And this leads to more of what's happening, I guess, in the world. I think it'd be a good convo. So Cash Patel, we'll start with this. Cash Patel completely annihilates low IQ Senator Patty Murray after she foolishly accuses him of weaponizing and politicizing the FBI. So they brought the FBI in for a Senate hearing. All right.

It was on a bunch of different things. A lot of things got brought up. But this was kind of like, you know, it started off with this Senator Patty Murray. Here's a clip. Check it out. Gang cases, 3,000 cases against violent. Well, that's not my question. I, I, I,

We know that you asked if I was weaponized in the FBI and I am not. I'm giving you the hard, concrete examples of the men and women putting handcuffs on bad people, doing harm to our children and innocent Americans. I do not see weaponization. You have placed on leave FBI employees responsible for the investigation of January 6th.

That sounds political to me. I have not placed anyone on leave who has not violated their ethical obligation or their oath to the Constitution. So if they were investigating January 6th, you believe they were violating an ethical obligation? Nope. I think the common theme here is you putting words in my mouth, and I'm not going to tolerate it. Nor will the men and women of the FBI.

Well, you did place on leave an analyst responsible for investigating Russia's meddling in the 2016 election. Is that politicization? Is that retribution? No, not if she broke the law or the ethical guidelines. I don't know which case you're talking about, but that's the standard. And we will hold ourselves inwardly accountable. And we will not be strayed from our mission because people think we are politicizing the bureau. If you want to talk about someone who was attacked by a weaponized bureau, you're looking at him. And now he's the director of the FBI and he's cleaning it up.

Well, I would just say to everyone who's listening that the FBI needs to be focused on its mission to keep the entire country safe. It should not be weaponized for partisan political gain. Thank you, Chairman. Senator Kennedy.

He might have nine inches under there. Yeah. He's swinging. Yeah. Well, look, man. I mean, you know, these motherfuckers, I mean, it is a known fact that they literally made up the Russia influence with Crossfire Hurricane and fucking the steel vacia. Hillary Clinton fucking had to make it. It's a proven fucking fact.

And now she's sitting here acting like it was like it's still fact. I think who who I've never even heard of this lady. Well, that's what I don't know. Like who are these? Like there's a lot of new faces and people getting these seats. I don't. Shit. That's another thing we didn't talk about. I was like, hey, I run the fucking government.

Now, I believe in that. That I do. I don't know much about politics, so you guys got to educate me. Well, basically what she said, basically what, so Kash Patel has been legit targeted from the FBI under the Biden administration.

For the last four years attacked harassed said he was a traitor put on the domestic terror list and now motherfuckers the head of the FBI Oh, that's what he was. Yeah, that's what he's like. Hey bitch. Like yeah, so you're accusing me Yeah, these people and then so like dude there's been all kinds of data that's come out like factual data That doesn't make it into the media that has shown that this, you know, Russia interfere in the election in 2016 was a total lie Hillary Clinton paid her

- Campaign team. - Her campaign team, this is all fact. - Yeah. - Her campaign team to contact this dude, Christopher Steele, who made up the Steele dossier, which was completely fabricated shit, okay? And this is like open knowledge. This isn't like-- - So yeah, let me ask that again in my ignorance, getting up to speak to all this. So I always go and would like to know,

Because you'll have both sides say, well, this is a fact. And then the other side says, well, this is a fact. How do you know your fact is more facting than their fact? Well, that's a good question at this point in time. I mean, because now we're dealing with a complete propaganda machine which has no truth. But there has been trace back evidence

The money was traced back that they can't explain payments from this place to that place. She was also fine accounting there. Hillary Clinton's campaign got fined. She got fined. Yeah, she was found. Oh, wow. Yeah, she was found guilty. They fined her $200. $200, wasn't it? Yeah, it was cheap. $200 fine. And so for eight years, they ran, regardless of what you think of Trump, because I know you're not a fan. Well, I like some things about Trump. Yeah.

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I love when you see on any kind of media where someone just actually says how they feel. I think that's the healthiest thing ever. That is what I love about Trump. Yeah. Hate him, love him, grab him by the pussy. Yeah. At least he said it. He's like, this is who I am. And what I think the lesson to learn is there, hey, you can say, grab him by the pussy, but this is how I talk and still be a fucking president. Yeah. So I actually am. I have hope.

But really though, everyone, it's like you can be yourself. It's okay to be yourself. So I actually love that about Trump. I love how regardless of what's happening with the government, I love how the fact...

Something's happening. Yeah, it feels good. Someone's an office and people are mad at they're like it's actually happening I know there's an efficiency department because like I said about the DMV earlier what the fuck it takes months to get it right like this needs to happen and anybody who's ran a business manage the team etc understands the fish the government is so disgustingly and you guys know this by any

every time you've ever interacted with them ever. Taxes, et cetera, their length of time to respond. It is so fucked up. No company, no company, not a single company would survive the way that the government's ran. I love that. Trump put that into place. Is he probably getting some revenge on some people who popped off? Yeah, yeah, yeah, he probably is. Now what I don't like and where I was really mad in the first election is I felt like with his skills,

He could have put a stop to the divisiveness. I think that's a very fair. That is my number. That's fair criticism. I think that's a very honest. That's my number one with him. It wasn't even so much what he said. It's like, dog, especially in COVID, we were all there. I was like, dog, you can go right now live and bring everyone together. Just jack off these people a little bit. Just fight there and bring them together. Bro, you're 100% spot on, and I agree with you a gazillion percent. Yeah.

The one thing I do not like about what he does is he gets super fucking... And this is a problem with the people on the right and the center and right. And it's hard to, like, judge him because the fucking whack jobs way on the left are so fucking insane that they're... It's funny to watch him get fucking pissed off, right? Yeah, yeah, I agree. But, like, bro, you're the president, okay? And here's the reality. What I do not... I...

First of all, I don't think I don't think whatever he says no matter what the media is not gonna help him no matter what they fucking hate him agreed and there's gonna be people way over there with the rainbow fucking haircuts that all hate him no matter what also agree, but I do not hear enough or at all We didn't hear this at all in the first time like hey, man

We're all here. This is our place. We should all be getting along. Which is why I liked his speech this year. Yes. He's changing you. And that's why I think he won. Honestly, he should have never lost. He shot himself in the foot by not just being nice. Dude, I think he could do a massive. Because, dude, all the country is is a big culture. That's all it is. I agree. Just like we talk about business culture. It's just big. If he were to come out and say, hey, guys, listen.

I know there's some motherfuckers over here on the right that are insane. I know there's some people over there that are insane. But the 80%, 90% of you, we all want the same thing, man. Oh, my God. That is all I'm waiting for from any leader. If he would come out and say, I am trying to do the best job I can to create the best opportunity and environment for the 90% that are really... Take them to church. Yes. Yes.

The country would transform and like if he came out said that three or four times almost instantly Yeah, it would be totally different like you guys we can't be judging each other based on race I hate the two-party system. I do like I and they did right they derive all their power from division especially identity politics Gay straight black white socio-economically. How are you? Are you? Yeah, are you fucking super gay? Right like like it's

It's insane. I think the thing for me with politics where it goes is like, for me, I have a hard time trusting anybody who identifies as far right or far left because now you're being assigned how to think. I'm a free thinker. I'm a freedom guy. So look, if somebody wants to suck dick, wear a dick,

like eat a dick have purple hair i don't give a fuck i don't care but also you can't make somebody who doesn't want to do that no and on top of that bro there's boundaries everywhere like everybody can do you bro and there's boundaries you don't fucking force it on people's

kids for sure okay like shit like 100 you don't force people to go to your fucking parades when they're a bigot like people can have their own beliefs and if they have shitty beliefs it just makes them an asshole yes okay like it's just like fuck dude you're just a fucking asshole like when assholes you should just be assholes like and it was understood well now it's if you guys suck well we're listening we're back there now like no one gives a fuck we say whatever the fuck we want here and everybody gets it yeah and like

Bro, everybody gets it. I think that 80 to 90% is the realest thing ever. I don't actually think there's that many people who disagree on how things should be. And if you talk to most people, what do they say? They go, you know, I'm a little more right when it comes to economics and money and I'm a little bit more left on the liberal. It's just the same fucking conversation. It's like everyone's on the same team. What I don't like is when people villainize each other. And then also too, it's like- Well, it's what gets clicks now. It's what gets clicks, yes. And it's just like also you got to realize like no matter what you think,

There's not a hundred and fifty million people that are just idiots like it's just like it's like Kamala Harris calling the whole country Nazis It's just so arrogant to think that you're so right in a hundred and fifty million other people are wrong Like it's just I just don't like when someone loses their ability to see both sides cuz now I can't trust you well, dude That's the other piece to Billy. I think is important too and then again Center Center right has this issue. It's like I

The left's always had this issue, but it's like, I think it's important. I like Trump. I don't like everything about Trump. I have criticisms. I have personal qualms and issues with the Trump administration. I still vote for him. I think he's the best option, but I can still articulate what I don't like about him. Most people can't do that. Let's break this down on a fucking micro level. How many friends do you have that you're like,

I love this dude for this, but this other, I don't like that part. All of them. Yes! So like, why can we do that in a micro level and still have great relationship and be like, I wish that dude wouldn't drink so much. Or I wish that guy, like, hey man, like. I'm still a barrier fucking body. That's right. Exactly. What I didn't like is how when Trump won this time, it was like the far left was like,

oh my God, but just if you voted for that, I don't know how you could be a good person. I don't know. That's why they lost. And it's like 100%. It's just so arrogant. It's so ridiculous. It's so lacking self-awareness, right? And then the right did it too. And I'm just like, guys, don't you realize this is just all a dance? It's all... Dude, I think the responsible role of a leader is to bring people together to accomplish a mission. Yes, amen. Okay, and...

I think Trump could do a better job of that. And I think if he did, things would get better a lot faster. And I think he's doing a lot of good things. Here's what I'll remind people is, especially entrepreneurs, right? Listen to this. When he was on The Apprentice,

For decades for that there was a time when Trump was the guy no people for oh, he's in fucking half the rap songs ever made Donald Trump like he was the guy another apprentice. I loved him. Yeah, you know what? He was on The Apprentice fair Yeah, really fair right like and it was like crazy to see and it's like okay look, you know Were there some things behind the scene? I'm sure the word but he also has these sites So also even you saw the same thing happened with Elon it was like

I don't know. And you see, I'll give you a right end left example. So everybody doesn't get their panties at a bunch, but take Elon. The same thing that happened to him right now is since he went right, it's like, he's getting all this hate. And obviously there's a lot of shit that's made up, exaggerated, et cetera. I think the same thing happened to Bill Gates. Like,

Bill Gates is literally like on record a bunch of times too saying, "Hey, I'm donating all my money. He's done a bunch of good. He's helped a bunch of kids. He's done all these things. So is Elon. Bitch, I gave you PayPal. You send it to Venmo motherfucker. I started all that game. Like Alexa, I put you on." I think there's a difference though. I mean, I really do think Bill Gates is the evil villain. I mean, so watch, maybe he is, maybe he's not, right? I don't know. Did you ever see that video of him getting pie in the face?

No. Oh, yeah. He got pied in public, and that's when he was like, fuck, I'm killing everybody. That's when his evil villains... But my point is, though, is, like, I just think it's... To me, right outside looking in, it goes, I see the same patterns over and over again, right? And then I think the only thing that I would like to interject in the conversation for the world is that...

There needs to be more acceptance of what we don't know. Because as humans, we love to make sure that we have an answer. An opinion on everything. That's why we love religion. Because it's like, no, no, I know that when I die, I go there and it gives us peace, etc. I know that person's a villain. So now I can feel good about this. I know that that person scammed their way to success. So now I can feel good about my mediocrity. Like we make up these. That's real. Yeah, we make up these truths instead of just owning the simple fact of I don't know.

And it's okay to not know some things. We don't know. And that's like, I think people would treat it differently because we act differently when we don't know something versus certainty. I hate certainty. Certainty, especially with business. Every time you meet another badass motherfucker, aren't you always amazed at how many questions they're always asking?

It's never about what we know. It's, "Oh, you know this? "Oh, well, what are you doing for that?" It's never a brag fest. It's always the humility, learning. But then you take someone, like you said, a mediocre thinker, and that person's gonna say, "Oh, them guys are fooling themselves. "They fucking think they know everything." It's crazy. "Motherfucker, you don't even understand "that the way that people like that got there "is because they have a very good understanding "that they don't know everything."

and they are willing to learn everything you can't get there you can humility is a requirement of success and these people say oh because you drive a rolls-royce you're not humble no

I drive a Rolls Royce because I'm very humble and I'm able to take information and it's fucking sick. Well, yeah There's nothing better there's nothing better there's nothing better yes, there's there's no there's nothing better no And I'm not apologizing for it No, and I'm not going to apologize that I can drive a different car every fucking day of the month and

Because you know what? I did shit that you're not willing to do for a long fucking time. And it has nothing to do with being humble or not. It has to do with, actually, I'm very humble because I'm willing to take in information, process it, and adapt and realize, oh, I don't know everything. Billy knows some shit more than me. I'm going to do what he told me. And vice versa. Yeah. You know, and so I think that's...

But dude, I agree with that a gazillion percent. The conversation of unity needs to happen more and we have to identify that we are intentionally being divided for the benefit of people that do not have our interest as regular humans and we'll call them orators.

Us peasants, okay? And, you know, people say, well, you're rich. You're not a peasant. No, I'm a fucking peasant. I'm not in their club. You're a peasant. That's why we got the Peasant water here. Because we're peasants, bro. Got them at Target. That's right. And so, like, dude, we, you know, well, fuck, I got mine over here too, brother. Like, we are the peasants. Okay, I do have a question for you. Yeah. Both of y'all.

So my point is we have to fucking get past the idea that we actually don't like each other. It's not true. It's not true. It's fucking not true, man. Not true at all. The other thing I want to question about Trump, which I thought was dangerous, which is why I didn't like it. So, again, I'm his biggest fan for if a reporter asked a stupid question, being like, that was a dumb question. I love when NBA players do it, too. Like they're like, oh, how did you feel when you lost?

Fuck it. So I think it's appropriate to say how the fuck do you think I felt? Yeah, I think that's an appropriate response, bro. You know, who's the best at that fucking Dana White? Yeah, he's the best. I do love him for that. Yeah. So yeah, actually, you know what? He's a good example to me of what Trump should have done more. And so Trump will do that, but then he'll take it far. So like, for example, he'll be like,

Rosie O'Donnell's fat and an idiot. Now, mind you, mind you, mind you, if it's the truth, or mind you, if it's comedic timing, you're the president, you can't do that. You can say, she's acting like an idiot, whatever, like this, but when you're saying that, because now you're green-lighting everybody who's looking up to you that doesn't, that isn't smart,

to go up to someone and be like, "You're a fucking fat, eat a piece of shit." And if our kids did that to somebody, especially because they're winners, or people that we look to, we'd be like, "You don't talk to people like that." - I think there is a level of conduct that a leader at any level should try to abide by. If they wanna be respected and actually bring people together. I do not behave the way I behaved 10 years ago.

20 years ago I realized that there's weight to my words and I realized there's weight to my actions and while I still am a dumb immature motherfucker I try to keep that where it belongs And like at your house after this yes, that's right like you and I we're gonna say a bunch of shit the most but when I'm like out in front everybody I'm gonna try to remember like hey, man. I'm here to to set an example of

And I want to make sure that we we accomplish what we're here to do and it's not it You know, I keep it real but I also understand there's things that you should say not say and you know I yes a work on that Yeah, he does. That's it I think he did which is why he won. Yeah, what is way? I think actually he's working on it. I think it's an active thing, but I also like to just bring this into the into perception here that

When you have a billion dollar industry, okay,

that is non-stop attacking you billion trillion trillion dollar industry okay because here's the truth like nobody nobody batted an eye when kathy gerfin is holding up a head of them i mean they didn't definitely bat an eye i remember that she got canceled yeah she got actually canceled and like went to jail my point being is like you know like that's cool we could do that or we can you know make the rap songs you know saying like you know keep donald trump like that's cool right like we understand so it's like you know

I think Trump's issue that what rubs people the wrong way, but it's an ego thing, but it's like when nobody else is willing to like toot your horn, bro, you have to your own. That's actually, I actually agree with that. I didn't know it, but yeah, he'll be the first one to tell you like, Hey, when I brought back, tick, duck, go,

That's real shit People do not acknowledge the shit that you do you have to tell them yeah, and okay, that's gonna I'll give you an example for me, okay? I give a lot of money away period yeah a lot okay, so

If I don't tell people that I gave a lot of money away, I'm a greedy fuck because of the way. Yes. You're greedy. You're this or that. But if you do, then I'm a douche bag. Okay. So, so how do you win? Yeah. Right. And at the end of the day, by the way, I, so I have a boys and girls club in Southeast San Diego called boys and girls club genius. Yeah. And, uh, you've had it for a while. Yeah. Yeah. And then, and, and of course I get the DMS of like, man, this is just a marketing move, right? This is, but,

First of all, I'm like, you know, the way I quote it is this, is...

Give loud to inspire the crowd. That's right. I said, so you would rather me do this silently where only I give money or do it loud and inspire all the homies in my network to give more money. Shut the fuck up. I agree with you. No, like, what are you talking about? That's why you can't listen to idiots. That's what produces the Rosie O'Donnell is fat. You know what I'm saying? That's what produces that, bro. I have another political belief that people don't really fuck with, but I'm going to bring it up and curious your guys' thoughts. I do believe that

That you should have to take a test to vote on a lot of issues. No, motherfucker. I say it every show. No, here it is. Here it is, bro. It's a real thing. Here it is. It's a real thing. Not even take a test. If you do not pay taxes that year or you are behind on your taxes, you do not get a vote. That's fair. If you pay into the system.

You can decide how the system operates. 100%. If you do not, you can't. In any clubhouse, this would be acceptable. Right. Think about this. So it doesn't matter if you're 14 years old. If you got a job and you're paying taxes, you can vote.

But, dude, people that are collecting and not contributing should not have a say. I agree. Because they've created this state now where there's so many people dependent and they have such a voice that all they're going to do is vote in their own interest, which, by the way, that's not fair to people like you and me who sacrifice and invest a lot in our outcomes. So I give the example. That's real shit. We don't.

We should have to, there should be some limitations. 100%. It's like, you know, if you ask your employees, hey, should you have 365 days off a year in some companies? They'll be like, yeah, not considering, well, how the fuck are we going to make money? Like, okay, yeah, let's go do it. And then, you know, so I don't know. I also think a lot of people who have been...

who've been championing this shit. Yeah. Like, oh, four day work week, two day work week, this, that, the other. They just fucked themselves because now the shit's going to happen and they're not going to have jobs. Like, there's no leverage. Here's the thing. And this is the bad part. Okay. I don't like far left employees. Well, you can't. They, they, they,

Billy, Billy, they don't work. It doesn't matter. That's the thing. They yell and scream and talk about how they're going to fucking cancel you, but they can't because they don't have any money to buy anything. That's the facts, bro. That's what I've learned on this show. I've learned that on the show. I can piss them off and say whatever the fuck I want. And they can't do anything because they don't spend money and certainly don't spend money on health and fitness. They don't give a fuck. Okay. So it's weird.

This was a hair dye company? My people are different. Hey, there's some buff far lefties. Yeah. Is there? Yeah, the whole gay community. Them niggas are jacked. Yeah, but I don't think the gay... I think most of the gay community are not...

Far left anymore because they yeah, I think that shit. Yeah, that's the thing because the left is got like that's the that's what I was talking about these I'm talking about the I'm not taught like bro. There's a difference between Democrats and leftists. I'm talking about the leftists Democrats I like the general Democrats are reasonable people. They are people who have

And they do run businesses and they are productive. Yes, they do shit Republicans But they also will listen and they will they will say okay that makes sense You know, I'm talking about the crazy motherfuckers I did a drill my company to give you a so we do a morning huddle up and every morning huddle up I've gone zoom everybody goes around or in person whatever fuck we're in the office and I said after the election when it happened cuz I have a lot of people who are left in my office and I people right - and I said Hey, we're gonna do one drill today

Everyone's gonna say what the positive is about Trump getting elected. I don't give a fuck how you feel because the second you lose your ability to be able to see the other side, you are the fucking problem. - That's right. - Don't you get it twisted. You are. Same thing, it wouldn't have been the same the other way. You know what I mean? Like you have to be able to see. - So what would we say positive about Biden?

What would you say? I know what I would say. What do you say first, though? Oh, fuck. I like ice cream. I mean, I like that he likes ice cream. No, see, that's what they tried to do on my head. I said, stop doing that shit. I had to crack that. I would say, well, he's so old, he might die.

That's a good thing. It's a hard drill. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a hard drill. Like, it's good. I mean, but that's the thing. Like, the window has shifted because, like, when you tie your identity to this identity. Notice DJ did not do it. Notice he did not do it. He continued on it. He did not do it. Well, I'm saying. I'll be honest. Like, I'll be real with you, bro. I think, like, I have a different perspective on that. I think the amount of destruction that.

that man has done to this country. I mean, you talk about treasonous, bro. You talk about like not uniting. Like Trump needs to do better on uniting. I'm with that 100%. Biden has intentionally divided. Yes. Not only that, bro, intentionally weakened the country intentionally. And it's, and it's traceable through the funds that he's received over the number of years. That's why they pardoned everybody at the end. Like they were taking money. I don't know how much you know about this, but they were taking foreign influence money and paper pay for play. Meaning,

Things like this. And before I say this, allegedly. Okay. Okay. But, you know, Hunter Biden's selling fucking paintings for $50,000. $500,000. That he fucking... Yeah.

squirted some paint. Where's that coming from? Oh, it's coming from- - Okay, I did hear a lot about the Hunter Biden thing. I never knew much about it, but that's- - It's coming from foreign buyers and what are they getting in return? And then you have, bro. - Bro, Hunter Biden was on a board- - For Burisma. - For Burisma, which is a Ukrainian gas company, oil and gas company, okay? This was in 2014. Who was in office in 2014? Barack and Joe Biden, right?

Hunter Biden magically got on this fucking billion dollar company board with zero experience, zero backing, simply because he was the son of the vice president of the United States.

Biden goes over there makes him fire a fucking prosecutor who was looking into that company right? Ukraine fires that prosecutor. He gives him a billion dollars and then really much a billion dollars the United States a to that country Years like now fast forward right fast forward. What what what war has the United States been supporting by proxy for the last? Okay, let me let me ask you guys this because let's say is what you're saying is true. Yeah, right it is true. No, yeah, okay, so let's say that happened and

Where do you guys go? What amount of thought do you put to everything that we don't see and we'll never see? Because we're not in there, right? Like in the meetings, right? There's probably all kinds of stuff for public safety that's never shared, right? Is that right? I would imagine. Well, no, I'm saying is that morally right? Let me ask you this. You think it is? Let me think of how we run our companies. I'm a transparent leader and so are you, but there's still some shit that's like...

A me and me and I CFO combo. That might be true, but also we're paying the employees. They're not paying us. That's a big difference. That's a big difference. That's fair. But also- So if the employees were paying us to operate the company, would they not deserve the right to know what the fuck was going on? Honestly, we just established how many stupid people there are. If I'm president, I'm definitely going to lie to y'all about some shit.

No mistake like 100% like some situations Billy that's not why they're lying. Yeah, they're lying now for their own benefit and that's the problem Okay, it's not lying for to protect you and me like that's the excuse they use like a secure So like the Patriot Act like let's take that. Do you know the Patriot Agents me teach? Okay, so when 9/11 happened that they came out with the Patriot Act which allowed us to speak

buy on foreign enemies and all of us were like fuck yeah let's fucking get him because back then dude none of us really understood that there was an agenda at

at play that was not in our interest we all believed america loves us our government loves us they protect us they gave us an enemy we went after the enemy that's right so so naturally you know we're all on the same team yeah these guys throw a rock and it hits you in the fucking face and we're like fucking kill him right yeah but what if that motherfucker threw the rock was paid by him to start the shit because he had interest that we're going to make him money it happens a lot

So now we're dealing with a situation where we've all figured out that these people are not operating with our interests in mind. And it's very apparent and trackable. So the Patriot Act basically started this. The Patriot Act was this act that...

that said we can spy on people that are over in the middle east basically enemies of america but then they created domestic terrorism so now now if you speak out or say something they use them as a terrorist and they can spy on you so they and this is what snowden did snowden came out edward snowden came out and told this and then they labeled him as a traitor when

All he said, you're so right, we're going to do it to you. Yes, 100%. All he said was, hey, listen, the government is recording everything that you say. Every picture, every phone call. Every text message. But also, too, I don't think any of that's new. That's not new. Well, that's new from the Patriot. It's new of like 2002, 2003. Do we think so? You don't think the government was looking at our shit before you?

Well, they didn't have the technology. It didn't really exist. I mean, wiretapping was a thing, sure. But even that required a court process. The difference is with the Patriot, it doesn't require any of that. To me, it sounds like, again, just hearing, it feels like now we have the NIL deals with college. But it's like...

They've been getting paid. You know what I mean? Like they've been getting paid. College players have been getting paid to go somewhere. And so, but I get what you guys are saying as far as, you know, weaponizing this to their benefit. Well, here's the, we could sum it up by saying this. We pay them to look out for us. And when they stop looking out for us and start sending the money overseas and

To get it funneled back to their own fucking pockets, which is how they go in making $175K a year and walk out worth $100 million. I agree with you. Okay? That's a fucking problem. And then when they- I do like how- Well, they escalate that, bro. So now what they do is now, for example-

Okay, you saw what happened in Afghanistan where they left all the equipment over there. All right, why did they do that? Well, they all own stock in fucking Raytheon and Lockheed and all these things. And then by getting involved in Ukraine, we don't have the equipment. So now they're going to make more and their stock goes up. So it's all a big fucking fuck job for all of us. While they tax you, you're in fucking California, bro. You're getting raped.

Okay. That's true. I have the holes to prove it. Yeah. You are paying over 50% of your income to the government. I cried this year. Okay. Now, if you pay over 50% of your income to the government, what does that make you? A hoe. No. What's it make you, bro? What? It makes you a fucking slave.

You're working more for the government than you do for you. I get it. That's not okay. And that's not free. I definitely agree with that. We're all the same. We are slave class, bro. We are fucking slave class. We are just told we were free. And we are not free. And once you see it, you can't unsee it. So I believe, and again, I'm hearing this, right? This is new. But I believe what you guys are saying. It makes sense. And like, okay.

Just say to you two do you have the same energy on the other side because to me I do I think I can yell that by both Right now I'm getting yelled at is no writing like that. That is that's the government Democrats doing it bro. I know they're all in the same place. Oh, we listen cool. There's three There's three categories of officials right now. Yeah, there is Democrats

There is Republicans and these what we would call established Democrats, established Republicans. And then there is non-affiliated members of each party. Very few. There's a few Democrats that are not establishment Democrats, meaning they are in office to actually make change. On the Republican side, there's a few more. All right.

The reason they hate Trump so much and the reason both sides fucking hate him is because he is the least like that out of all the politicians. He's independently wealthy. I like Trump for that. Yes. Same page. So he is a third. He represents a third unaffiliated class of political figure that isn't on the.

The take the way these other two are. Okay. And now what's happened is we've had these fucking establishment guys on the right and establishment people on the left try to weasel their way into there. He's fucking our game up. We've had this thing running for hundreds of years. He's coming. He's fucking our game up. But now they've tried. Now they've infiltrated his shit. So now like...

These people are fucking scavengers, dude. And basically what we have is a totally corrupt system that needs to be... The real fucking talk is it needs to be fucking wiped clean and started over. I agree. But I do think that a lot of this happens less from... Well, I don't want to say less than agenda, but I do think it's just...

Humans doing what they've done throughout history, which is put themselves first. That's right. So like, you know, when Biden is doing his thing. Well, what's the fucking saying? He's doing what's the saying? Uncorrupted or unchecked. Absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's it. And Billy, it's happened. It's happened for so long.

that it's just so infested with shit that I don't think it can be fucking fixed. I think it has to be burnt the fuck down. - And now we're dealing with people who were born into it. It's just the way it is. You know what I'm saying? Kids born into technology world now, they don't know what the fuck a letter is or how to write it. No, it's Instagram DMs, right? That's just how it is. I think the political landscape, left or right, again, I don't look at it as a difference there,

It's changed over the course of this country's history, right? Like it used to be, you know, we were farmers, bro. And like, you know, there was a problem going on and we saw something that was going to affect our farms and our local communities. I'm going to go in office. I'm going to serve for this, you know, quick term. I'm going to vote on the shit that I said I was going to vote on, fix the shit I said I was going to fix. And I'm going back to my fucking farm.

These people are in office for 40 fucking years, bro. And I don't think that's healthy. Yeah. Accomplish what? And then they come out, they, they, they overtax us. They spend 40 years in fucking office, come out worth hundreds of millions of dollars. I mean, that's good. Fix what?

And fix what? All they do is cause more division. No, you said it earlier. It's a fucking, it's a dance. It's a fake, it's fake. We're going to fix, they have no intention of fixing it. No, bro. And then they come out on camera, act like they argue with each other, and then go play golf and have dinner together. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? What did you think about that picture that went viral with Obama and Trump laughing together? Yeah. Yeah.

No, trust me, dude. I get yelled at now because now I'm

Now I'm criticizing Trump and people are mad because I'm not just mindlessly... It's okay to criticize your friends and people. It's okay. It's okay. You're supposed to. It's objective, bro. You have to look at shit objectively, man. Is it working or is it not? You mentioned purpose earlier. I do think people find...

Purpose and being on a team right that's why you kind of join. Yeah, I mean your culture Yeah, and so it makes them happy part of their identity. Yeah, that's right guys arms around fuck the libtards Oh, you know fuck those far-right fascists like you know it gives them and you can't fix anything like that But it makes them feel better. Yeah, I agree with these feelings instead of result. Well. It's the same thing. It's it's it's it's group think it's no different and

it's it's a it's an uh it's a very unhealthy way of being a fan that's what it is like i'm a cardinals fan i don't like the cubs fans right like i'm a shitty guy yeah i'm a four guy right right yeah that's true it's the same and we're all we're all

Condition to doing that in different areas of our life, but when it comes to politics, it's very unhealthy Because you can't solve anything and the other thing is to I'll say this like I don't believe that like all politicians go into office with that nefarious Like no they get sucked in they they get in they see how the game is played and then they're left no options like if or they get blackmailed to go along really know what like how politics these fucking committee seats work bro, like

- It's like we talked about business in the beginning. It's payola and relationships. - And like fuck, everybody's playing the game. You have no choice, right? Like if people really knew how the, like for example, let's look at the Senate committee real quick, right? Let's say you're a new Senator. You just got elected. You raised two, $3 million from your constituents. They voted you in, you won your election, you're in now, right? And you wanna go sit on the Senate Appropriations Committee, right?

Well, those seats, each one of those seats, they cost. They cost you. Like, you have to pay to be on that panel. So your PAC pays. Right? And so, okay, well, depending on the committee, those seats can go anywhere from 500 grand to a million bucks.

Well, fuck, you just raised 2 million and you spent it on your campaign. You don't have money. Here's this lobby that comes in. Oh, okay, Billy, you want to get on that seat? We'll pay for your seat there. No problem. Just make sure when this vote comes up, you vote for this. Yeah, classic lobby. And so like, there's a, like, dude, there's a bunch of problems in government that needs to be addressed. Term limits, lobbying. Guys, this is literally why though, like just with anything is I'm so big on just investing in my personal brand for the last decade.

and like well of course i did i need you know if i want it's the only way to be free my own money you want to have your own voice you want to have your own direct line with people like it's dude it's what i say it's what we say here all the time dude personal excellence ultimate rebellion if you if you if you create your your individual self into an uncontrollable human you're going to win and you'll be free the free as you can be right you know right if you're

They want you fat. You got to be fit. They want you broke. You got to make money. They want you to hate the thing that you aren't. You got to get along with those people. Yeah. Right. You got to do everything opposite of what they tell you because everything they tell you is for their benefit. That's good because we all need to be better at that. Yeah, that's good. Dude, it's real shit. And that's why they don't come out and say the shit that we're like, why aren't they saying this? Why don't they come out and say, hey, black people and white people, you're all a bunch of fucking idiots. Get along. Like, why the fuck? That's not hard.

Like that's, it's real easy. - No one says that. - And the thing is though, like, but again, going back to reality, bro, like I remember even in the height, like you had the George Floyd shit, like even in the height of it, bro, me and Andy were going across the country, doing these talks, speaking to people, meeting people, real world, bro, the shit didn't exist like that.

We didn't walk down the street. In the real world, it does not exist. I wouldn't say it doesn't exist. I would say. That's a little deep, but I get what you're saying. I get your point. If you watch CNN and you watch fucking Fox, you think it's fucking everywhere. Now, that doesn't exist. What CNN and Fox do is a small window that they blow up. I agree. That is bullshit. You think it would be everywhere, bro. That is bullshit. You think it would be everywhere. Well, I think there's racism on both sides. Yeah, yeah. For sure. I mean, there's no doubt, bro. It's openly acceptable to hate white people.

Openly, I will I will agree with you on that and that's you know Like that's why I get pissed off on the race the race conversation cuz it's like bro You're gonna call me a racist for breathing the fucking air cuz I exist when it's okay to legitimately Fucking hate white people out in the open. I agree. Yeah, and like it's all it's wrong no matter what yeah, you know and and

I'm just tired of that shit like broke fuck off like I got stabbed in the face for that fucking cause Like I'm not gonna hear it. You know yeah, I would say yeah I'm with you a thousand percent is and there's fucking weird time where you know like I I Fuck with the jokes of like yo like it's hard out here as a white man right now with you know how much this but also - I do think there is this weird conversation right now on the white side that racism like it doesn't exist and

That one pisses me off. And so I just think both are true. I think what they're saying, bro, I can tell you what I think that means. Like people have a tendency to speak in absolutes. Right. When people say that,

Don't believe like because I've said that before it doesn't exist, but what I'm not saying it doesn't exist I'm saying it doesn't exist the way that we're saying it exists. Yeah, right like I don't fucking get invited to the Klan fucking barbecues Yeah, I've been a white guy my whole life, bro I've never fucking met one of these motherfuckers like I've never seen a dude walking around a pointy fucking hat like yeah I've never think the easiest way of where it's at now how I try and explain to people is

I don't think it's the old school clan shit for the most part, right? You have idiots out there. Very rare. I think it's mostly just we have our biases. So, for example, take race out of it for a second. You know, me and you vibe. We both played sports. We run businesses. We believe in hard work. We share a lot of common values, sense of humor, laugh at the same stupid shit. If somebody comes along and they're different than us, we're probably going to have a slight favoritism towards us.

And I think that is what modern day racism is. It's just we have bias to what we're comfortable with. Yeah, but brother, that's not...

actually racism. That's just biases towards... No, no, no. Because I'm not saying... Hold on, hold on. But where it becomes racism or could feel like that to people is if me and you look the same and there was a hundred more people that looked the same like that and now we still shared that. It's going to feel like racism. What do you mean? You know what I mean? So what I'm saying is essentially... So going back to we share those common values. If...

Where a hundred white guys all sharing those common values and then everybody else who's not like us is all black You're not gonna be like I don't like you because you're not black But it doesn't change the fact that still a hundred white people saying it against a hundred black people. Does that make sense? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like tribalism. I mean it's Brother that's that's that's not a

That exists amongst every culture. A hundred percent. And that's what I think the racism is being called. That's what I agree. So I don't disagree with that. But where I get fucking pissed off is because for 20 motherfuckers, for my whole life, okay, I've been told, and it's progressively gotten worse, that now it's to the point where, and it's getting better now. Now people are like, dude, this is fucking stupid. So, but there was a point a few years ago where if you were fucking white and

You're racist by default. You just don't know it. I'm not a fan of that. I'm not hearing this shit. And like, dude, this thing of like,

I'm responsible for what happened 400 fucking years ago motherfucker. My family wasn't even here and by the way I'm Sicilian which means our people were conquered by black people and raped my blood is part fucking African because of it so like when we really break this down it's just a stupid fucking argument and The reality of it is is that we can't control what happened we can control what happens now and

And what should with that? Yeah, because I because I I'm with you on the same page. So what is your guys's feelings on the conversation around privilege? I don't think I don't think I think there's American privilege, bro. And I think we're all we're all greedy. I have a hard time like buying into that, that there is like there's this privilege like Andy's not where he's at because he's privileged. And he's where he's at because for the last 26 years, he's worked his ass off.

If I do the exact same thing that dude did for the next 26 years, there's a good chance I'm gonna be exactly where he's at. - Or successful, at the very least. - Or even better. - Right? - So you, DJ, this is interesting. So you don't think privilege exists? - I don't, no, absolutely not. I think we have American privilege. I think we're the most. - Okay, so what's American privilege? - I think we're the most privileged people because shit's too good.

- We make up problems. - Yeah, we try to make up problems. - I mean, so if you believe in American privilege, then you kind of by default believe in white privilege. - No, white privilege doesn't-- - Well, hold on. There's different perspectives here. - Yeah, I was gonna say, like, yeah, like, so let me just-- - Because there's also,

- There's black privilege. - Yeah, I agree. So let me go. So like, you know, if there's American privilege, then when people talk about white privilege, you have to understand that's real because you're saying in America, we have it too good. We all agree with that, right? We've seen some other countries and how we're living, like clean water, we get that. Also too, if you were white and you were allowed, your grandparents were allowed to own land and own property and pass it down,

That's fucking privilege. Yeah, but here's the thing. By the way, it's not a bad thing, which I want to get to in a second, but it exists. My wife, I have a black wife. Yeah. Okay. You ain't got to feel sorry for me or nothing. I'm just kidding.

Shut up. Her family has like 500 fucking acres down in Arkansas that was been passed down the generation. You're not going to talk about a unicorn and talk about the mess, right? But that's most. There's a lot of black owners that own property down south. You know what I'm saying? Hold on, hold on. Just the fact of that, because we like facts and real. It's like-

You're talking about like, what? Black people were not allowed to own property for so long. This is just what it was. Hold on. There's no... Everywhere. We weren't even allowed to vote. Billy, guys, that's not untrue, but there's also been a lot more white people here than black people the entire time it's existed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like, also, but so, okay, let's just start like, just so we're all on the same page because we're all pretty much agreeing except for this topic. I'm acknowledging...

Let me rephrase it. Take my daughter. We can all agree my baby is privileged as a motherfucker.

she got rolodex she'll grow up and have property she'll have down payment she'll have education she'll have why is all of that because of her dad's hard work right except why didn't white privilege stop you and so what i didn't say see now you're putting words in my mouth i didn't say white privilege stopped me i didn't say anything else besides the fact we're going to acknowledge that

It exists. I think privilege exists, but I don't think it's exclusively to white people. Correct, correct. But just white privilege just happens to have a lot more advantages than some of the other ones. That's all. But I agree with you. There's privilege in all different types. But for example, if our grandparents were allowed to own land,

own property, go to good schools, had other grandparents who were attorneys, doctors, et cetera, would they not have a massive advantage? - No, because here's the thing. - Okay, that just, okay, now we're lying. What are you talking about? Literally, that's just like, Matt, what do you mean? - Let me say this. - Hold on, hold on, hold on. - Hold on, hold on, let me just finish the lesson. So my daughter has all the things that we just talked about and we acknowledge she has privilege.

So how can you not acknowledge that there's white privilege? - Let me say this, Bill, because the thing is, the thing is, you can give somebody all the shit in the world, they still have to do it. - I guarantee, yes, I agree. - So even though, like I have two daughters, right? I'm setting them up for fucking success. There's not a guarantee they're gonna make it, right?

There is still a lot of white people who have those same advantages. They're still white trash. I agree. There's more poor white people. It just doesn't change the fact that it exists. I agree with you. You still have to do more. It doesn't take away. That's what I'm saying. My daughter is still going to have to work her ass off. And guess what? Most people, white or black, that are successful came from shit.

Like hard work is hard work. You can't out beat that. My question is, my question is, there's black privilege too, bro. What's black privilege? What does it change? Black privileges. What does it change? Acknowledging that white privilege exists. What does it change? Empathy. So what? Let me explain it to you. Let me explain it to you. If a kid was here, I'm just going to, I hate to random country. Uh-huh.

and they're here and they grew up without running water, without electricity, without education, et cetera. All three of us, and they came here in this room today and they're around us. All three of us would be a little bit more empathetic. We would be more open. We would see how we could help. We would pour into them. If somebody just down the street came through and was like, yo guys, Billie Jean, Andy Fusil, let me ask you this.

We're a little less empathetic. Like it's just, it's built in us. It's empathy. Empathy is the difference. And that's why acknowledging things is important. That's it. But now at the same time, it's not a hall pass. Now don't, no one get this much as confused that this is a fucking green light to be a victim. Well, it's been presented that way. I agree with you. And it's been hung out in front of my fucking face my entire life.

Like motherfuckers discounting the price i've paid to get where i'm at Do you know when people tell me that i'm where i'm at because i've fucking got some sort of privilege I want to fucking choke them for sure because I can promise you every single one of those motherfuckers that said that Could not walk a fucking day in my shoes. None of them. I agree. Okay, so I but do you agree that because Hold on also on top of that. I

Have been having to deal with that my entire life being told that I have it easier when motherfucker I've almost blown my brains out a Thousand fucking times to get where I'm at on top of that. I can't point simple things out otherwise, I'm racist such as that

That's six percent of the fucking men in this country create 50 plus percent of the violent crime That is a fucking statistical fact that does not make you a racist for pointing it out Okay, because if we do not acknowledge that how can we solve the problem? The actual racism exists in ignoring that and pretending that it doesn't exist because the reality is is if you actually gave a fuck about black people in this country you would be able to say

This is a problem. We need to fix this problem. We wouldn't say, oh, that's not actually true. You're a racist. Okay. So I actually have to be. There needs to be truth. Yes. And also to you. Like, I mean, since we met, like you grew up like I let me just say, I think it's wrong for people to do that to you. Well, no. Well, hold on. There's more to this. There's more to this, too. Yeah. Okay. We can open this country. It is acceptable and it has been acceptable my entire life.

To fucking hate white people in the open. There has always existed black entertainment television. There has always existed the black Grammys. There has always existed all these things that segregate society. But we didn't get invited to those, which is why they were there. Maybe. I don't know. It didn't happen in my fucking lifetime. I'm not concerned with what happened before I was here. Well, that's why people are mad. All I can control is how...

I behave and how I behave. I have, I have Syed who is Indian. I have Madat who is Bosnian. I have DJ who is black. I've got Billy who is black to me. You motherfuckers are just my friends and I don't give a fuck how black you are. Indian you are. In fact, I'm going to make funny about it cause you're going to make fun of me about it. Okay. That's what friends do. So like there is multiple sides to this equation and at the end of the day,

I don't think that you're making an inaccurate point. But what I do think is that it's been hung out in front of society. And I think it's enabled and created a culture amongst certain groups of people, both white and black and Asian,

Victim class and we're telling them that the reason that you can't succeed is because of something that happened 200 years ago Yes, and you and you are examples of that not being true. That is not fucking You drive a fucking Rolls-Royce just like I fucking drive one. Okay, but you have more cars than me, but I

That's because that's cuz of privilege So but my point is my point is is that we can argue these things Yeah, but at the end of the fucking day, bro We as grown men have an obligation to put an end to the division and the device of shit So I agree with you and what you just I don't think you I don't think I don't think that you're wrong and what you're saying but

But we can't generalize all white people in that because like, for example, my family came to the United States in the twenties and they were extremely poor. They were bricklayers. Okay. And they, my dad grew up in a family of fucking 12 motherfuckers. And when they starved, when they were kids, they were fucking starving. They collected fucking rainwater to fucking drink it. Okay. Our generation and my family went from very poor to,

To not ask for to a little bit better to where now I've been presented with an opportunity and while I wasn't given any money I was blessed with a father that cared about me that taught me a lot of valuable lessons and so That's could be considered privilege, which is why I give so much back That's why I teach what I know because I know that not everybody out there had a dad like I had or a mom like I had that was willing to teach me things so

So there's going to be privileges in different areas no matter who you are. And I just don't feel like – I feel like we're at a point in time –

in culture where we really need to understand that no matter what's happened, there is good people and there's bad people. And no matter what's happened, all we can control is what we do now and do the best that we fucking can. And that's how I've always felt. Like, dude, when I think of like American heroes, bro, and I know a lot of people say that Martin Luther King was a communist and all this shit. I don't give a fuck. His message was fucking right.

Content of character. Okay? And discrimination or special standards, we live in a meritocracy. And until that changes, it is what it is. Everybody should be treated with respect. Everybody should be having... And here's what I will say. There is a problem with the black communities, but the problem is not white people doing it. Here's the problem. The problem is the fucking Democrats that they voted for for 60 fucking years come in every fucking four years and say...

Billy, we're going to fix your people. We're going to fix your neighborhood. We're going to get you money for fucking schools and infrastructure and this and that and this. And then they don't do any of it. They go and they take the money. And these are not just white people. This isn't people on the right. This is the people they're voting for. And this is black people doing it to their own fucking people. So they vote for black people. The black people go to Washington. They figure out how to steal the money and fuck over their own people. So how is that my fucking fault? Right.

Right. How is it my fault? So how is it my fault that I can fucking say, hey, here's the I'm a business guy. You're a data guy. Right. Like we look at data all we do. OK, here here's what I got to solve. We have six percent of the population committing 52 percent of the crime. And most of that crime is done amongst their own people in their own neighborhood. How do we fix that?

Yeah, but we also look at history and the why. The first way that we fix that, if we actually care about those people, which we should, because they're all Americans and that's the principle of America.

Now, it's what America's been founded on. But right. It's not on slavery. Well, it's founded on a set of principles and for certain people. Well, you know, I mean, that's because we're on the same page because I want to just first. I can't control what they did. I control what we do. And you do a good job of that. But what I'm saying is, is we have to acknowledge what the problems are and allow them to be addressed and solved and not called racist because we acknowledge them.

I agree with that. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's my piece on it too, bro. It's like, you know, my upbringing, bro, right? Like where I grew up, the worst area you could possibly grow up. Okay. I'm talking about the worst area in St. Louis. I saw my first dead body at nine years old taking out the trash, bro. Okay. Bad.

My dad was out of my life. You seen Boys in the Hood? Yeah, of course. You know Doughboy? It was based on him. Shut up. Hey, good-ass movie, though. Ricky! Bro, it's one of the best ever. Single-parent household, right? My mom's white. Okay.

You don't if white print by my thing is on this like the white privilege part bro if it did exist if it does exist like we say it does Where the fuck was I would have loved to have guess what you missed out on my brother. I will hold on bro Let me ask you this so if we're gonna say if we're gonna say that then Couldn't I say because I'm Sicilian and American Indian couldn't I say? Fuck my people were fucking treated terrible

My people were conquered by the Moors. So listen, I mean, so where's the stop? I saw this. I'll tell you guys. I heard you. Hold on. Now we go. Let's go to the Irish people. Irish people were literally held in slavery. Those things were bad, too. Right. They're all bad. Yeah. That's my point. For sure. They're all bad. But we're talking about America specifically. Right. So let's just a couple of things. Number one, you are correct.

I agree that it is bullshit that people discredit, not just you, but any race and their hard work and dedication and almost like villainizing people for how they were born, you know, because that's fucking ridiculous. And I think that you do have a right to be mad about that. Like that's well, after 40 years, it's annoying. Well, especially, and then you probably have even more because you're like, what are you talking about? Like I've had black friends my whole life. Like I played sport. Like I didn't like you, like for you, like it's like,

Like this is fucking stupid. What are you doing that? So that is validated as fuck to be angry. Yeah. Like you are like, Hey, well, I'm not really angry. It's just like, it's just like, yeah, it's stupid. It's like, fuck man. Like a hundred percent. Like what else can I do? You're like, you're like, I get money. Like that. Like literally what else can I do? Right. You're like, I have free podcasts. I help everybody. Like I do what I can. Like the world is better because of your impact. You can't deny that. That's just the fact. But it is, it is like, that's a real talk. I'm not saying that's sarcastic. I know that. Yeah.

And you're saying like, yo, there's this whole story about white privilege, but I had to live in the shittiest fucking place ever. And my mom was white. Like, ironically, there's this big thing where the fuck was it for me? My whole family that raised me is white. So it's like, where's, none of them had it. Also. Well, who are we talking about here? Like, are we talking about like, hold on. Are we talking about like Anderson Cooper who grew up as a Vanderbilt in the Vanderbilt mansion and his property was passed down and he's worth fucking hundreds of millions of dollars? That's white privilege.

That's what you're like. 100%. But that's such a small percentage. I think it's just a big deal, but I think it's a smaller concept. Because that fits in the framework of the example that you're providing. Yes. Which is-

200 years ago, their family passed down and he's had privilege because of it. And clearly he's had it because he's fucking ridiculous. The if is, did you have it? Did you have it? Do you have it? But the absolute was we didn't have it. But most people don't have it. No, no, no. But we weren't even allowed to have it. It's just like, I'm not, my only point, first of all,

Even if you don't, what I'm saying, I believe to be true, it doesn't change the fact that anybody has an excuse to not fucking be successful in present day. Now, I'm also going to acknowledge that it is harder for some people. But guess what? Still not a fucking excuse. It's your deck of cards. Play a fucking accordingly. And it is what it is. You must win. That's reality. Well, that's what we talk about. You and I have talked about that for decades. Here's the reality.

for some motherfuckers, it's going to be fucking harder. That's it. And now move forward. So all on the same page there, and you're right. No, I mean, that's a fair... It's being lost. Well, what you said is a fair point, okay? And I would like to acknowledge that because you didn't have it. That's fair. Yeah. Okay? Some white people had it, but most white people also didn't have it. Yeah. All right, so... I feel like that's my thing. It's like, we're talking about... But also, it's... But I don't know that that's... Let me just say one other point, too, is like,

The biggest advantage that someone can have generationally, as we know here, is here. It's not the possessions, et cetera. And honestly, knowledge takes generations to pass sometimes. So when our generation starts here and we weren't allowed to read, then we weren't allowed to get property, and now we're not. And now you have this group of people who at times it feels like you're saying, hey, why don't you guys just get your shit together? And it's like, we're trying to catch up, motherfucker.

Because it takes a generation to pass down. So if you look at the stats for Black people, it is getting better. It's getting better for everybody. But while that gap, and that's why you have movements like affirmative action, et cetera, it's to help accelerate from the deceleration. Okay, let me ask you this. That's how these things came about. I'm not saying...

It should or not, but that's how it came about. Let me say this real quick because I think this is important. I look at it like this. Again, I have two dogs. See, I look at it like this. How many fucking white people who were qualified for jobs were fired or not given jobs to an unqualified person of color? Is that not racism? Watch this. Now, they may have- Hold on. Is that not racism? I think maybe.

Yeah, I think one could argue. But also, especially one, let's just say they're both qualified and that still would be racist if you're doing it. However...

It was an effort to try and accelerate, right? Good or bad, it's like there's pros and cons to all of this. And so I think it's a hard issue, period, because look, if I'm born today and I'm white, I'm saying, suck my dick. I'm not giving you money for what happened a long time ago because I don't give a fuck. I got bills to pay and life is hard. I understand that. Also, too, in the same breath,

You can't be mad or let me rephrase it like this. If that is the attitude or energy that's going to be put out about it, how can you also expect people to be empathetic to your cause?

Well, like whatever that may be. Well, generally speaking. Right. Okay. So there's the opposite of that, too. So if you're told that you're racist because of the color of your skin and if you're told that you don't get opportunities because other people who may be equally as qualified or less qualified get them instead. How does that solve the racial problem? Because we know what that does. That makes fucking the people who are getting fucked hate the other people. Yeah.

Yeah, for sure. I mean, look, you can understand everybody's anger in this situation. Well, I mean, you can't solve racism with more racism. Yeah, but I don't know if necessarily, like, put it this way. Are we racist if there's a, I don't know, like, let's call it bias. Let's say that we're in a race and there's somebody with one leg and we gave them a wheel.

- Are we, but now they can beat us in the race? - No, we call that the Paralympics. - Hold on, hold on. - That's the Paralympics. - We don't race together. It's a different thing. - Yeah, that's what's called segregation. I get it. That's my point. - Listen, it has its place sometimes. You know what I'm saying? We got men and women's sports. - That's why he called you Uncle Tom.

Okay, so where's that? Where's the exploration on that? So going now, that's a fair question I want to get to that because that's that's a good ass point But yeah, like if someone had a will we gave them so we're not gonna also like oh We're racist now dot it up because they have a chance but they can't beat us cuz they got a fucking wheel now And so now thing is competitive. We got to step up our games to get us But we also know there's enough for everybody to eat. So there's that now the expiration is

That's a hard part right because it's like how far back in time do we get now mind you this is not long Let me ask you something like my let me ask you something. Hold on Let me ask you wasn't allowed to like go to say so right? So it's not a far away thing. So so did our family history. Yeah, so we're italians. So we're irish. Okay, I mean look there's other races that get benefits Every every culture that exists

At some point in time was held in slavery bondage. Every one of them. Correct. But because we're Americans, we're dealing with American history. Hold on. So if America was founded on the ideals that all men were created equal and they weren't back then. Hold on. Let me make a point. All right. We got to the point where a civil war. Okay. In the civil war.

Do you know who died the most to free the slaves? Probably white people. Fucking right, bro. My house. You don't need a cookie for that. Hold on. My. No. You know who was fighting to keep them, though? It was a lot of black people, too. Not only that. Hold on. Wait. I'll make a point. I live. When you come to my. You haven't been to my house. Yeah, we'll go after. We're going to go after. Where I live. Ulysses S. Grant used to have a house there. Okay. Ulysses S. Grant was white. He was 18th president of the United States.

The reason that he became president of the United States was because during the Civil War, he was literally one of the generals who went to the fucking plantations and killed the slave owners himself and freed the slaves. And he started the party called the Radical Republicans. Okay? The Republican Party has been anti-slavery and anti-fucking segregation forever. Okay. All right? That was the whole premise of the fucking party. When this...

happened in the Civil War and hundreds of thousands of fucking how many people died in the Civil War? No shit, Tom. Look it up. You got a computer. Millions. And they were mostly white. Okay. Where does that do we forget about that? Did that happen? No. It just doesn't change the fact that it's still once the Civil War ended it wasn't like racism ended or that like Racism will never end. Well, it wasn't like things were equal. 620,000. Okay. 620,000 fucking mostly white people.

That is never talked about. It's never acknowledged. It's never. I think it's acknowledged. No, it's not. It's fair to acknowledge. You might acknowledge it, but it's not. I mean, that's a good point. But my point, so this leads into the question I ask of what the expiration date is and where the. Okay, so I asked you this question of how long do you think since that Civil War ended, things became equal? When did it become equal? I don't think things are equal.

Okay. All right, then. Same person. That's the fallacy, bro. No, no, no. No, no, no. You didn't let me finish what I'm saying. You didn't finish what I'm saying. But like super unequal. No, no, no. Things aren't equal.

They're never going to be equal. It's a fallacy. Fucking ever for anybody. I have a lot of white friends who came in way better situations. I have a lot of white friends that I was born into a better situation. Yeah. Same for you. Yeah. Do you have black friends that were born better? Yeah, absolutely. Do you have black friends that were born worse? Absolutely. Okay.

So the idea, the whole idea that there will ever be equal outcome is fucking not real. Yeah, I agree. But we're going to try to make things fair because that's what we do as a leader. Okay. I agree with that. Yeah. That's what we should. We should be fair. Yeah. And fair is hard to decide. Hold on. Is it fair to say in that 2025, okay, that...

We do not have a much better system than we had in 1776. I completely disagree. You don't think? You would own me right now. I wouldn't even be allowed to talk. I'm saying the opposite. Wait, wait, wait. I'm saying in 2025, are we not better, more equal now? I was like, what? No. Fuck, dude. No shit.

Yeah, I'm fucking retarded No I'm saying in 2020 okay my the bottom line what I'm trying to get at is this at the end of the day personal responsibility

Drives outcome. I agree with okay, and if we continue to tear open this wound of how unfair it has been Yeah, we are victimizing the people today to believe that they cannot be successful This is a big problem that happens in our schools right now

Little white kids are told you're racist because you're fucking white and little black kids are told you can't do shit because you're fucking black What does that do to them over the course of their life? I think that probably happens more at home than maybe I think we're on the same page. I disagree with that message I want to say that's my whole piece right like I look at this like the equation for success, right and

To me, like, do you think it's right? Because I've been around Andy for five going on six years. I understand the equation for success. Right. And for me and what my family is trying to do, I'm trying to break generational curses. You call all of that for me, white privilege, black privilege in any of that stuff. It does not go into the equation.

Period. At this point in time. At this point in time. To become successful. Because here's the thing. Success does not give a fuck what color you are, where you came from, how hard it was. It doesn't. That's not in that equation. It's not. And so for my daughter, right? Like I want my daughter to be successful. I want her to be successful.

Am I going to go to my daughter and tell her, hey, babe, listen, she's in private school. She goes to private school. Mom's a stay-at-home wife. But guess what, babe? That white privilege that's out there, it's going to hold you back no matter how hard you try. That's not the conversation. But it comes in this, because I think we all agree there. I can't tell my daughter that shit. Let me give you a real story. Let me go one, and then I'll come back in that.

No one believes in more than that than me. Like I hate a fucking victim story. Like I hate the bitch. Like, like, like I'm, I don't believe in any of that shit. Like success is there. Like no excuses. That's what I believe in. I think it comes down to now that I'm giving right in a position to give, thank God. Um, I acknowledge that I work my ass off for it. I also acknowledge luck that,

that there were some things I was born into with my privilege that I got into. Now, I had a choice. Well, that's what I said. I said privilege exists. It's not just white. But I have a choice. I can donate my million bucks from my Boys and Girls Club to wherever I want. So I could have done it in Scripps Ranch in Carlsbad, where it's the really nice predominantly white, happens to be predominantly white areas, or I could do it in Southeast San Diego, where it is minority primarily, etc.,

I chose to go there not because I'm racist, because that group needs to be celebrated. That's the need. Yeah, that's the need. That's the need. Correct. And so I just don't- That's okay. That doesn't make you racist. I don't fucking- No, no, listen, listen, 100%. This is where I want more conversation, or I think sometimes the other side is- This is great talking about it. This is great conversation, for sure. But I just, I like what you said, is because that's the need, and I think sometimes groups feel like,

People don't think there's a need. And there is a need. Oh, you're saying like they pretend like it's not real. Yeah, exactly. Well, all you got to do... That's the only thing that's annoying to me. But see, here's the thing. So there is a fucking double standard there. All right? Because...

Yes, you go down to fucking downtown St. Louis, bro. I mean, there's a fucking need. I'll show you. But I will also take you 20 minutes out this way and we will go to the fucking trailer parks and you will tell me it does not look any different. It's just the color of the people. And that's why it's like, look,

We need we need help on all sides. Yeah, right, but it's just I just don't think we can't should be at some point in time For us, okay. Well, that's going away because everybody's fucking each other. There's not gonna be white kids anyway That's a whole different fucking conversation look the same anyway That's a whole different conversation because that is engineered intentionally to eliminate fuck. Here's the reality dude. I

There's nobody's going to be mixed. That's real. That's real. But here's another thing white people. Okay. Can you say you're proud to be black? Yeah, you can say you're proud to be white - no, I can't No, I can you can't say my power. Well, first of all, it's not First of all, let me tell you something. There's a difference because I've never been able to socially accepted be socially accepted saying that

Sure. Okay. Latino people can say Latino pride. Black people could say black pride. White people say white pride. Oh, boy. It's a big fucking problem. Here's the catch up. Okay. No, no, no. I'm going to make a point. Hold on. Hold on. Let me make a point. We're winning. We're winning in life, Andy. You and I are winning in life. We can't say a lot of things because we're winning. People will say arrogant. Well, I say whatever the fuck I want. But my point here, my point on this is that

Because I've never been able to fucking think like that.

And I've been told that my identity is not in my race. Yeah, okay I don't have racial I don't look at fucking white people and be like oh yeah They're like me and I'm fucking proud to be at all like I don't even think that way yeah And so then culture tells white people they're fucking racist on top of it. It's like the fuck you talking about dude like So there's multiple sides of this equation and here's the bottom line, bro is

If we're going to be what America says that it should be, at some point, okay, if you fall down when we're walking out and you fucking skin your elbow and it's bleeding, what happens after a day or two? I'm pink.

Fucking scab forms, okay, and if we continue every time that scab starts to get better We peel it the fuck off it never heals. This is good. Here's my point My point is this there has to be and I don't think that what you said I really honestly don't I don't think that anything you said is actually wrong and

I don't think anything he said is wrong. And vice versa. And I don't think I said it wrong. These are perspectives. I hear you're doing knowledge privilege, but everything else is wrong. No, look, but at some point, the men of this country have to stop tearing the wound open so that it can fucking heal. And that's the truth. So, let me ask you about this, because this is a question for both of you.

Now, with that insight and thinking about what you said earlier, which I agree with the government, it's like, yo, we need to get rid of all that shit. And Trump comes in and he's like, let's fucking delete it all because it's bullshit. Would you be opposed because of it is time to move forward? If Trump comes out and he goes, you know what? It is time to move forward. There was some fucked up shit in the country. It was this idea to make America great, but it was just for white men. But we all know that it needs to be for every man. Every woman doesn't matter your fucking color.

And he rips up the Constitution and he burns the fucking flag and starts a brand new one. I don't think that's. Yes, I would be opposed to that. I'm curious, though. Here's why. Here's why. Could you understand why I wouldn't be super excited about the flag, though? No, not at this point. But here's what I will say. Here's what I will say.

And bro, you know I love you, dude. And I actually really appreciate that you have your opinions and actually back them up with a fucking argument and not just say stupid ass shit. I believe that the idea of, like when I say, hey man, I'm a fucking patriot.

Am NOT saying that I am a fucking fan of the way shit is now what I'm saying is I'm a fan of the way that it was designed to be and America has never lived up. I this is this is what I think needs to be said Okay America has never lived up to what it was designed to be from the start and if we actually took what it was designed to be from the start and actually applied that to

Right now, we'd have the best fucking thing ever. I agree. With an asterisk of just saying how it was designed to be for all people. Because it wasn't designed to be for all people. If it was designed to be for all people, then I'm with that. No, no, no. Back then, it said all men are created equal. They did not. But your vote's three-fifths. I understand this. I understand this. What I'm saying is if you took the same document and you apply it today and you actually fucking lived by that, we'd have the perfect fucking country. Right.

The problem is, just like many businesses, that there was a business plan that nobody fucking followed the right way. Okay. Okay? So I would not, I think that the answer is not, okay, if we have a problem in business, right? Let's say you and I are business partners. And we make this plan. And we say, fuck, the business isn't working. Well, what's the first thing we should do? We should look and see if we're following the fucking plan. Okay?

We haven't followed the plan. We don't just tear up the plan. We audit ourselves. Are we following the system? Sure. Okay. And the audit of America over the course of the last 200 years is, in my opinion, that while it has gotten better, we have never actually lived to the system that was designed to be. Okay. And so I think...

if we actually started applying what it was supposed to be in reality the way all men are created equal and all of these other things I think we end up with the perfect product We just have a bunch of people as you said who have gotten into power and utilized it for their own benefit Yeah, and I do think that it would be I think it's very important to acknowledge that there has been massive amounts of progress in

that have happened over the course of this time. And we are much closer to what it should be at this point culturally. But I believe that we are much further away from a leadership standpoint where these guys have started to create a system that pretends to be free that actually isn't free. And I really think that we would all do ourselves a service at you as a black man, me as a not white man, but a white man, okay?

to lead people to unity so that we can understand that it's not us that's fucking it up for each other. It's those motherfuckers up there that are constantly telling us, you're this, you're that. And then while at the same time we're fighting, they're stealing our fucking money, bro. They're stealing it all. So I don't think that the answer is to tear it up

But I would tell you from a symbolism point of view. I think the answer is to take the fucking tyrants and put their fucking heads on some fucking stakes and make sure that no one ever does that shit again. That's what I think. I think that's well put. And I just think as a... You have sensitivities about it. Yeah, well, no. But you got to understand, I do too. Yeah, yeah. Because there's flip sides to it. Yeah, I think... I mean, yeah, for sure, right? Like, I mean...

Think but none of that shit identify some identity. No, it's not my look. It's not gonna say yours either stop me. Yeah I just think like for America to be Unified right if we are cuz you're bringing up a good point of like when does it end? When does it stop?

to me i think we in those docs in those processes and create a new one like i think that's how it would end it's like hey this is kind of a symbol of well could you make a better system than that one it was on i mean maybe maybe we rewrite it in different words just a sign of symbolism of like yo we're acknowledging that this was just kind of and moving forward well i bring this up because i come back full circle with you know like i had a friend of mine

And she was really taken back at like, now, mind you, I pledge allegiance and I stand up for the flag, but also in the same stand, I can respect somebody who doesn't. If you look at the history and see what everything that would happen, like it wouldn't make sense for them to stand. And so I just think it would be ideas or maybe those stand and there's just a new additional doc, like a new declaration. I think it, the whole thing is fucked and we do need new, but I,

I see a lot of backlash when people don't just bend the knee to the old documents, the old constitution, all these things that were written at a time. Why do you think that is? Because they're protecting their own. Do you think it could be something else? Like, for example, like, I don't know, like my grandfather being killed in World War II after fighting on fucking D-Day and never meeting my dad.

Yeah, I mean, do you think that that's do you think that, you know, me growing up without a grandfather and my dad growing up without a dad would in the name of of fucking what this country is supposed to be would make me feel a certain way when people don't stand for the flag? A hundred percent. But just like that, that same passion, you can also see how somebody else's dad and grandpa was killed because of it.

And I think that's the hard part is it's both sides. You're not wrong. Neither is John Doe who's, you know, or my ancestors who were killed because we're not wrong. I just think we're here. And I'm just a fan of everybody kind of understanding everybody's perspective. Like I would hope that the comment here is, I think this is a healthy conversation. Both sides had really good perspectives. Let's grow together. But you're not. You're going to have comments and someone's going to be like,

They're super fucking far right and they're racist. No. And he's a left heart. No, no, no. Right. I don't think. No, no, no. Our people are very centered. OK, good. Then I hope people can see that we're all on the same. Of course. That's my biggest point, bro. I think I think what it comes down to, we talk about exploration of it. The problems that we have in this country, they're not black problems. They're not white problems. They're American problems.

And I think the moment that Americans start realizing, hey, we're all on the same fucking team here. Yeah. And start looking at all of our separate needs and stop looking at them as separate needs. Okay. No, like the poverty that's in fucking downtown St. Louis, that's all our problems.

I agree with that. The poverty that's out in fucking, you know, South County. That's the most unified you've sounded. Well, I mean, but listen, but like that, but that is my belief. You know what I'm saying? I think the problem is like when we constantly try to, oh, well, this is a black issue. Oh, well, they got their white privilege. This is a white issue. No, bro. Like the moment we can all address it together. I'm like, hey, these are all of our problems. We have to solve all of these problems together.

That's when we move past expiration. Dude, I agree with that. But you can't call people racist for pointing out the fucking problem. That's what I'm saying. But again, if we all own... Well, then with Andy, with that, just they need to state the whole problem, right? Like I think state the problem because you're right. The data is the data at this point. But anyone's going to be sensitive. Well, I don't think people like hearing the truth about the whole problem. But anyone's going to be sensitive to...

About the problem if you don't say the how and why so for example if you walked into me and let's just say I punched my boy Paul and You're like well you guys just punch etc And I didn't tell you yo he just literally killed three people in the other room You'd be like I'd be so fucking mad because I think you didn't understand why I was like it easy there needs to be Acknowledgement of listen dude. I don't buy I don't buy listen here. I don't buy in to the black community being

statistically ultra violent compared to the white community for sure for what happened fucking 300 years ago I don't buy into that yeah it's economics it's economics right I know I don't think it is I think it's fucking I think it's I think it's

It's low-income places. Is it? Hold on, is it? It is. No, it's not. Because the murder rate is not the same in white, poverty places. It's not the same. Yeah. And the thing is, I think that's the other thing. And then we'll say, well, it's the culture, they listen to rap music. Well, no, it's not because lots of white people listen to fucking rap music. So what do you think it is? I fucking don't know, but I think we need to figure it the fuck out. And that's the thing. It's like, I think, you know, specifically like black community, bro, like we have an accountability issue. I think.

I think so, too. I think that's the biggest thing. It's like, you know, when Lil Tyrone kills Lil JJ, it's okay. We'll put up, make the t-shirt. But also, who says that? What do you mean? Who says it's okay? They don't say it's okay. They act like it doesn't exist. I think most people agree with that. But we don't call it out. We don't call it out. Billy, here's an example, bro. I was a police officer, right? I've seen death. I've seen murders, right? You know, like when Lil JJ gets killed in the block, right, and you go knocking on doors, anybody see anything? Nope. I didn't see shit.

- Yeah. - Right, like that's a problem. - I agree. - That's a problem. And I think we have a massive accountability issue within the black culture, bro. And it's like, it's a tough thing because nobody wants to talk about it. - Well here, I can tell you, there's a big difference. - I think that's fair. - That's a real point to say. - It's a big problem. - Because dude, in white culture, if some fucking, like in my family, dude. - When Johnny does some dumb shit. - That guy's a fucking idiot. - Johnny did some dumb shit. - Fuck that guy. - He's right down the street. - He deserves to be in prison. - Everything you guys just said there is okay.

It's just when you do that and then also not acknowledge white privilege, it just...

It's harder to hear. But what does white privilege have to do? It doesn't, but my point is- Yeah, what's the hardest thing to hear? Not putting those two things together. What's the hardest thing to hear? But what I'm saying is though, just from listeners, being leaders with voices, et cetera, when one side is just saying one thing, that's where the labels come. That's where people go, oh, DJ is racist or he's being an Uncle Tom is because you just got to say both sides. Because then if you can say both sides, then you go, he's right, there is accountability. Just like if you're sitting two people down and if you only say the one thing old boy does, this person is going to feel the type of way.

So I think it's just continue the conversation like we're having here. I think everybody has to be held to the same standard. That's it. When we start making special standards for some people and other people, then we create resentment, which creates more bias. So if we're going to fix it, everybody has to be held to the same standard. Everybody has to be held to the standard of their own personal actions. And we have to say what happened fucking back then, it didn't.

That's not what caused you like right now. Okay, let's take it away from race. Yeah. Okay, let's take it to another there's another thing that's happening now That's very similar

This person killed four people because he had depression or he had mental... I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck if you were depressed. I don't care that you were having gender dysmorphia. You kill four motherfuckers, you go to jail. Like, that's it. And so, like, dude, now we just covered this on the show last week. Some dude... What was the example with the mental health issue?

The, uh, oh shit. Um, this guy killed somebody or did something and he was like, oh, he was suffering. Yeah. They released this guy. So the, yeah, the, the fucking, um, oh, he bombed the fucking Tesla place. Yeah. So there's a guy, white dude, right? Yeah. White kid. He said bombing. I knew. Yeah, that's right. That's fair. That's fair. See, this is the way it should be handled, bro. That's fucking fair. Yeah.

So anyway, this fucking white dude fucking bombs a Tesla and then he gets let out because he claims that he's having mental health problems. That's bullshit. Yeah, that's bullshit. I don't think you should be able to use any kind of excuse or anything. Look, I'm on the other side. I think there should be harsh punishments for stupid shit. Bro, I think we should go to fucking, I think we should be cut in

people's hands off, putting them in the fucking wood chipper. You know what's funny is I actually believe that. Yeah. Because it would stop it. It would stop it. It literally like. It stopped it immediately. It would stop it. It's like Singapore. You hear like, oh, if you put. How many times do I talk about Singapore? How do you? Yeah. I'm like, let me tell you, when I think about going to Singapore, the only thing I know I'm not touching fucking gum.

I'm not even going to chew it. I don't need gum. They'll pull your pants down in public and beat your ass. 100%. In front of everybody. I'm actually a fan of that. So let's start doing that, and we'll fix all the problems. Cut heads off. Cut hands off. I don't disagree. It's Cain. Embarrassed. Shame fixes a lot of things. It does. So the bottom line is, here's the reality.

I don't think you're wrong. I don't think I'm wrong either. I think we fucking, but I don't think that these things are within our control other than what the example is that we set now for. I think as leaders, it's a good conversation to have. I think it's like if someone took away just one additional perspective on all sides, cool. I think that helps, right? Oh, dude, look, man. I'm still going to make fun of you. Yeah, I mean, same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah. I will get my tap dancing shoes. Yeah. I mean, he gets it the worst, bro, because like,

you know, the Uncle Tom shit. Yeah, yeah. But like, it's- Yeah, honestly, how does that make you feel? Because that's pretty- I mean, dude, I mean, I've been on that wagon for like five years now because again, like, you know, most people, they try to, they don't know my past, bro. They don't know that I taught-

in inner city schools. They don't know that I've coached youth. I've sat on the board of directors. You've done a lot of shit, DJ. I've done a lot, but they don't see that. They don't see that. I think the truth of the matter is, bro, I don't think you can find somebody that cares more about the black community. I care a fucking shit ton. And I think

What it comes down to, again, that's the end goal. And we may get there differently, but the end goal is there's some things we got to fucking fix. Yeah, yeah, for sure. You know what I'm saying? And not addressing them ain't going to fix them. Or just blaming the other side ain't going to fucking fix them. Yeah, I agree with that. There's problems that we have to fucking address. And I want the best for everybody. You know what I'm saying? And I don't look at shit uniquely. I don't think it's uniquely these problems or these people problems. No, bro, we all got to fix it, man. Yeah, I think the best thing that anybody can do if you are experiencing...

any kind of racism, prejudice, whatever is just move on and get rich. Get really successful. - No shit, bro. - And make the change that you wanna see. 'Cause like, you know what I don't like is there's this whole saying that you guys see every single election year and it's this, it's vote. Everybody says, get out and vote. The truth is, fucking run.

You really want change run the only the only you know it's like like big or conversations vote and then they get the more orange juice or apple juice or like that's not a choice or do what the Constitution says that we should do over 30 and have a duty to do is to overthrow tyrannical government that too that's a fact no listen we have failed our American people have failed the responsibility to keep the government in check

Period. That's it. And whether that is, however that needs to be solved, it needs to be solved. And, you know, that's why I'm on the fucking list because I will openly say that. It says in our fucking preamble,

It says that we as American citizens have a responsibility to keep our government in fucking check. We also have a responsibility to overthrow them if they get too... Our fathers and the people before them have allowed these people to rape and pillage us financially, enslave us financially, and make it hard for all of us. And now what they're doing is they're telling...

In public school policy, they have started to start the division at fucking two years old. When I was in preschool and grade school, at least they told us like, hey, you guys are all the same. They don't tell them that anymore. You know what I'm saying? And like, dude, I'm just so sick. Like, dude, how hard do you work? You work hard.

You work hard as fuck. How is it okay for them to take more than half of your money and then fuck and then fuck me? It's not okay. No, it's not. That's not okay, man. And the money that they're taking, you know, that's supposed to be going to need. How much motherfucking money? You're not going to give more out of your pocket. I agree. That's what I'm saying. Well, how much more money would you, like, and so, and then they use it against the, they make everybody hate people like me and you because they say, well, all they're going to do is keep the money. That's actually, that's actually makes no sense because if you were to say that

That the reason that that I'm successful is because I'm greedy and you were to say we tax him because if he's greedy He's just gonna make more money. Well to make more fucking money. I had to create more jobs dumb fuck Okay, so I actually have to do more good the the greed and capitalism if you actually fucking believe that Actually is what creates the fucking economy so like

It's either one or the other what's sad about what you're saying is you're correct, but because people won't be in our shoes They don't get it. Yeah, I know it's almost like okay. That's why we'll live our lives I know well, but my point is is that they intentionally Stoke that fire so they don't fucking figure it out. Hmm. The bottom line is this bro We are at a place in time where I don't know. I mean, I I feel like

I don't know. I personally feel responsible to at least try to fix what the fuck's going on. Now, the only way I know how to do that is by changing the culture. And I'm a pretty good culture guy. Would you ever run for office? No, I don't think so. Because the truth of the matter is, is that I believe that my strength is in developing culture. And I think that if we can get people to understand culture,

that if they become excellent and they become wealthy and they become healthy and they become good people and intelligent people, that by default creates a cultural revolution. And if the cultural revolution demands that, the government will fucking fall in line. So politics is downstream from culture. So my answer to that is I feel like I can do more good here

than I can there. I mean, if you look at Trump, Trump is getting blocked and this or that, you know, and like same thing when whoever's in office, they deal with, there's no way to get anything done. And the only way we as American citizens can fix anything is by taking responsibility for our own lives, our own wealth, our own thoughts, um,

you know, and do everything the opposite of what they want us to do. Because everything that they want us to do is for the benefit of them and not for the benefit of us. I have a tagline that I like to always say, and this is to the world, I don't care what color you are, and that is, get off your fucking knees. And what I mean by that is, one thing I'll never do is beg for anybody's approval, beg for anything. And what I see, like, let's take a big example, like,

You know, the fucking Oscars or shit like this. You see people up in arms. They didn't give us a Grammy. They didn't give us an Oscar. Go make your own motherfucking Oscar. Not only that. How about this? Get fucking better. Like, yeah, like get better. But like also you don't need the approval for fucking anyone or anything. Go make it. If you want something, go make it. Like literally go fucking make it. You live by that. I live by that.

I live by that too, bro. Like, you know how many times I've been told no? You know how many times I've been told I'm fucking stupid? You know how many times I've been told I'm never going to be able to do any of the shit that I've done? I don't fucking, like, that's normal for me. Like, I don't...

Watch me. Huh? Watch me. Yeah. Watch me. Like, what the fuck? Because then if they see you do it and they know you and they grew up with you and if they know that Andy could do it, that they can do it too, they have to deal with the harsh truth. Yeah. Well, I mean, look, man. It's real, man. At the end of the day, you know, we're always going to have problems. And I think that the men of our generation have an obligation. This is my view.

To stop tearing open the fucking wounds that they want us to talk about and fight about and start getting everything fucking aligned so that we can't be taken advantage of as a whole. And I think the more that we argue about race while in discussing and discussing and arguing are two different things. Yeah.

When there can be reasonable conversation and we, it'd be no different than talking about the fucking, the sports game. This could have happened or that could have happened. All we can deal with is what the fuck is. And what is, is that for us to ever have our country back again,

People that look like you and people that look like me are going to have to figure out how to get along because the number one way that we are taking advantage of is along that line. I agree with that. And through that line, everything else is accomplished. Yeah, that's right. The minute that white culture and black culture start to get, I know y'all say we don't have a culture, but we do. No, we do. No, we do. All right. But the minute. Dry, non-seasoned. That's his fucking line, bro. I said mayonnaise. Yeah. So, so.

So the minute though that we all get along and figure out that it's them causing this shit. They are fucking done.

And, dude, that's why I care so much about the conversation. I hate race baiters. I hate antagonistic people along those lines that consistently tear that wound open so that it can never – they do that so that we never fucking figure out how bad they are taking advantage of us. You give them a greater enemy, right? That's right, man. Yeah, yeah.

So anyway, this has been a great convo. Yeah, we're going to have to wrap it up here. How long have we been going? We've been going. 310. Yeah. No shit. Yeah. That's the longest show we've had. Oh, yeah. It was good, though. I feel like all the topics were fucking right, bro. It was awesome. Yeah. Bro, listen, we are going to what?

Well, I was going to just finish it off. Stop complaining. Go work. Learn AI. Get rich. Change the world. Don't be racist. Don't be racist. But make racist jokes. That's correct. I think that is the formula. Racist jokes heal. They're the best. They're the best. Yes. Yeah, for sure. That's it, man. But yeah, so let's wrap it up with the final segment of the show, guys. As always, thumbs up to Dumb as Fuck. We bring a headline in. We talk about it. It'll get one of those two options.

So with that being said, a thumbs up or dumb as fuck headline reads, going viral woman arrested after police find pet raccoon and driver's seat with crack pipe in its mouth during traffic stop.

All right, let's have a racist guest here. White or black? Hold on. Are we playing white or black? Because that's a better game. Raccoon with a crack pipe. Where was it at? Raccoon with a crack pipe. I mean, the raccoon says white, crack says black. Mixed. It was mixed. That's your people, DJ. No, this was white girl dating a black guy. Thank you. All right. Thank you. All right.

All right. That's actually a pretty good guess. All right. But is she a bigot or a little one?

She big. She definitely big. Yeah, a lot of ass. All right, well, let's dive into it. A lot of ass. An Ohio woman was arrested after police in Springfield Township found a raccoon with a crack pipe in its mouth during a traffic stop. 55-year-old Victoria Vidal of Akron, Ohio, was arrested on Monday and charged with F3 possession of drugs, three counts of possession of drug paraphernalia, ABC News reported. The police officer...

was in absolute disbelief as he discovered a pet raccoon named Chewy holding the meth pipe. With Tyrone in the passenger seat. Let's check this clip out. Hello? The raccoon has her meth pipe. Has what? Oh my God. Her meth pipe. He's playing with the meth pipe right now. No, don't reach for it. That's evidence now. I don't want him to have that. That's why I'm going to do it. Hey, buddy.

It's okay. Is that the lady there? She's only 55? That's meth, bro. Yeah, this is what she's smoking meth in. The raccoons play with her meth pipe. She's mad about it. Oh, there's no... He's trying to smoke it. Alright, enough fun and games. You're going to jail. Oh my god.

Holy hell. Okay, so she was white. But she didn't have ass. She didn't have ass. No, she didn't. We all missed. Yeah, we did. That raccoon was trying to take a trip. That's actually pretty...

Bro, that lady's only 55? That lady looks 155. More. Drugs are bad. Don't do drugs. Drugs are bad. If you do do drugs, don't do meth. What we got on this? Thumbs up? Dumb as fuck? What we got? I got, you know... Dumb as fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

I think it's thumbs up on the cop. He was having a good time. That's true. I mean, bro, I couldn't imagine saying that, like seeing that in person. Like there's a raccoon trying to smoke a meth. I mean, how did the raccoon get in the car? That means this is her pet raccoon. She let the raccoon in the car. It is Ohio. And it's something they regularly do the way the raccoons are going back for it. It is Ohio. All right, thumbs up.

bro have you ever seen like this have you do you guys got raccoons out there yeah we have records here bro we got big ones here bro like they can let them say they're like violet yeah they can let themselves into a door like they can open doors and oh see ours aren't trained like that yeah we ain't there yet all right thumbs up all right well guys andy billy that's all i got hey bro thanks for coming out man great show yeah i mean this is good i mean it's uh it's important yeah i like i

You know, fun fact, this is probably, Paul, the only second podcast I've done this year and I've been just on a no tear. But the reason why I did it is because one, I think 75R is so fucking important. It was so, you know, impactful for me, just get my shit back in the game and just what it's doing for people. You know, you know what I did is I went to Facebook group.

And it was actually the most powerful thing for me. So I went in the Facebook group and my motivation to do it is to see everybody starting. And you know, day one, everyone's complaining. And like the first week, oh, what can I do? And I'm like, oh my God, I don't want to be that. Yeah. No shit. It literally was my biggest motivation. And then you see the transformation day 25. They're like,

I was such a bitch. Yeah. Yeah. That I was like, yeah, that's why it's, you know, do this. Why can't I just do it this way? Motherfucker. You can't even understand. That's the whole reason you are where the fuck you are. Yes. Fucking make it easier. No shit. That's what you did your whole life, bitch. A hundred percent. Yeah. So it felt that it felt like, man, this is important. And then, uh, and then secondly, just like knowing your message for years, like it's a, it's a, it's a positive one.

I think it's important. Bro, I appreciate you, man. No, it's fucking awesome, dude. If you live closer, I'd have you on the show every fucking day. Just so we can argue. We're coming back for that party. Absolutely, bro. Bash.

All right, dude. All right, guys. Well, don't be a hoe. Don't be a hoe. Share the show.