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Relisten to The Girlfriends S1, Ep 6: Women Who Like to Gab

2024/12/21
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Carol Fisher
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Dan Bibb
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Elaine
主持 STAT 生物技术播客「The Readout LOUD」,专注于分析生物技术行业的重大事件和趋势。
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Gina
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Stephanie Youngblood
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Gina: 我是Stephanie Youngblood最好的朋友。我注意到Bob的性格与他表现出来的完美形象大相径庭。在阿根廷滑雪旅行中,他对我的出现反应过激,这让我联想到我之前家暴的经历。我警告Stephanie注意Bob的脾气,但他对我的警告置若罔闻。Bob的暴怒行为越来越严重,一次在船上晚餐时,他因为红酒洒在桌子上而对Stephanie大发雷霆,这让她感到非常害怕。最终,Stephanie决定离开Bob,并制定了计划。我们组建了一个名为“Harriet the Spy Club”的团体,成员之间互相支持、倾诉和分享经验,这对于Stephanie来说,让她不再感到孤单。 Carol Fisher: 我与Bob交往期间,他曾砸碎玻璃杯,还被指控患有梅毒。当被质问是否谋杀了Gail时,他沉默不语,这可以被视为一种默认。我从调查人员那里得知,Bob在北达科他州开始了新的生活,这让我感到困惑和不安。 Dan Bibb: 我们重新调查了此案,重新采访了所有相关证人,包括Gail的家人、朋友和同事,以及Bob的朋友们。我们还调查了Bob在拉斯维加斯的近况。虽然Bob的朋友们对Bob和Gail的情况了解有限,但我们从Bob的女朋友们那里获得了关键信息。Stephanie向我们提供了Bob隐瞒已婚事实以及对Gail失踪给出不合理解释的证词。Roberta Karnofsky向我们透露了Bob在Gail失踪后不久就邀请她搬进公寓居住的事实,以及Bob在深夜接到一个关于在公共汽车总站发现一名女性的电话时,他拖延时间,并试图隐瞒事实。我们还发现了Bob的飞行记录被篡改的证据,证明他在Gail失踪当天曾驾驶飞机。基于所有采访和飞行记录证据,我们相信Bob杀害了Gail。 Elaine: 法医鉴定结果显示,发现的躯干并非Gail的遗体,这让我感到非常失望。但我们仍然会继续追究Bob的责任。案件公开后,我收到了来自其他女性的联系,她们担心Bob的清白或报复。 Stephanie Youngblood: Bob向我隐瞒了他已婚的事实,并对Gail的失踪给出了一些不合理的解释。他声称Gail去了中央公园后就再也没有回来,但他的说法存在诸多谎言和夸大其词。他有着可怕的脾气,这让我感到害怕。 Roberta Karnofsky: Bob在Gail失踪后不久就邀请我搬进他的公寓居住。在深夜,他接到一个关于在公共汽车总站发现一名女性的电话,他对此事的反应让我感到怀疑。我开始收集相关信息,并怀疑Bob杀害了Gail。

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Why did the prosecutors decide to re-interview all the witnesses in the Gail Birnbaum case?

The prosecutors decided to re-interview all the witnesses to ensure they had a comprehensive and accurate understanding of the case, as it is a rule to redo everything that was done in the past, even if people initially said they didn't remember or know anything. This approach can uncover new information as people's willingness to talk may change over time.

Why did Stephanie Youngblood, one of Bob's ex-girlfriends, become suspicious of Bob?

Stephanie Youngblood became suspicious of Bob when she noticed inconsistencies in his story about his past. She found mail addressed to Bob and Gail Birnbaum and a trunk with Gail's luggage tags. When she asked Bob about Gail, he gave vague and emotional responses, which raised her suspicions.

Why did Roberta Karnofsky agree to talk to the prosecutors after initially refusing?

Roberta Karnofsky agreed to talk to the prosecutors after they approached her again years later. She had initially refused in the 1980s but later felt comfortable enough to share her experiences and suspicions about Bob, including her theory that he had killed Gail and disposed of her body.

Why did the prosecutors believe Bob had flown on the day Gail disappeared?

The prosecutors believed Bob had flown on the day Gail disappeared because they found records from Caldwell Airport showing that he had rented a plane on July 7th, 1985. This contradicted Bob's claims that he was either waiting for Gail to return or at his nephew's birthday party, providing a potential opportunity for him to dispose of her body.

Why did the prosecutors decide to exhume Gail's body?

The prosecutors decided to exhume Gail's body to obtain DNA evidence, which would confirm whether the torso found in 1989 was indeed Gail's. This was crucial to eliminate any reasonable doubt in their case, as the original identification was based on x-rays and a radiology report, which could be challenged in court.

Why did Elaine, Gail's sister, consent to the exhumation?

Elaine consented to the exhumation despite the emotional toll because she wanted to ensure that justice was served. She trusted the prosecutors and was willing to take the risk to provide the necessary evidence to build a strong case against Bob.

Why did the exhumation of Gail's body lead to a significant setback for the prosecutors?

The exhumation of Gail's body led to a significant setback for the prosecutors when the DNA tests revealed that the torso found in 1989 was not Gail's. This removed a key piece of evidence and left the case with only circumstantial evidence, making it much harder to prove Bob's guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Chapters
The podcast features accounts from the Girlfriends, Bob's former partners, who share their experiences of his abusive behavior. Their stories reveal a pattern of controlling behavior, outbursts, and manipulation.
  • Stephanie Youngblood's experience with Bob's controlling behavior
  • Accounts of Bob's temper tantrums and outbursts
  • The Girlfriends' support system and shared experiences

Shownotes Transcript

Relisten to Season 1 of The Girlfriends.

The prosecutors arrive in Las Vegas to interview The Girlfriends.  Hearing the stories from Bob’s time in Vegas, they become convinced that he murdered Gail. But in an attempt to make their argument water tight, they uncover a catastrophic mistake that was made back in 1989, putting their investigation at risk. 

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