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cover of episode Relisten to The Girlfriends S1, Ep3: Bubbly, Bouncy and Very Alive

Relisten to The Girlfriends S1, Ep3: Bubbly, Bouncy and Very Alive

2024/12/18
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The Girlfriends: Our Lost Sister

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Abby Bruce
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Carole Fisher
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Denise Kassenbaum
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Elaine Katz
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Ouidad
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Elaine Katz: 本集讲述了我的姐姐Gail Katz 的故事,从她的童年到她与Bob结婚后的遭遇,以及她最终的失踪。Gail性格复杂,既有保护他人的一面,也有脆弱的一面。她追求爱情和自由,但在与Bob的婚姻中,她遭受了精神控制和家庭暴力,最终悲惨离世。我将尽力还原Gail的真实形象,并揭露Bob的恶行。 Carole Fisher: 我作为本集播客的主持人,希望通过讲述Gail的故事,向大家展现一个鲜活的Gail,以及她所经历的痛苦。 Abby Bruce: 我是Gail的表姐,我记得Gail从小就非常有才华,性格温柔,善于化解家庭矛盾。她对爱情充满憧憬,但最终却遭遇不幸。 Denise Kassenbaum: 我是Gail高中时代最好的朋友,我们一起经历了很多美好的时光。Gail性格开朗,充满活力,在学校里很受欢迎。她追求自己的梦想,但最终却在婚姻中迷失了自我。 Ouidad: 我是Gail的理发师,我见证了Gail人生中快乐的时光,她的头发和她的人一样,充满活力和朝气。

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Why did Gail have psychosomatic asthma?

Gail experienced psychosomatic asthma as a result of her anxiety, which caused her to struggle with breathing during stressful situations.

What was Gail's role in her family growing up?

Gail was a protector in her family, especially when they lived in Brooklyn, where she would defend her siblings from neighborhood kids who started fights.

How did Gail and Elaine differ despite being close?

Gail and Elaine were opposites in how they responded to the same stimuli, with Gail becoming fragile and Elaine more resilient, despite being younger.

What was Gail's teenage obsession?

Gail was obsessed with love and romance, engaging in multiple relationships and even getting engaged twice before graduating high school.

How did Gail and her high school best friend, Denise, spend their time outside of school?

Gail and Denise enjoyed listening to music like Neil Young and Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young, and they would go to New York City, where they met boys and felt adventurous.

What career path did Gail's mother want for her?

Gail's mother wanted her to pursue a professional career, likely in law or another respected field, but Gail was more of a free spirit and didn't align with her mother's expectations.

What happened to Gail after she moved to New York City?

Gail enrolled in a dance therapy program, worked as a cocktail waitress at a popular rock club, and tried to break into the music industry with her band, but she struggled and felt lonely.

What was the turning point in Gail's relationship with John?

Gail and John's relationship began to falter when they moved to New York City, and they eventually split after a year due to the pressures of city life and their differing career aspirations.

How did Gail's family react to her suicide attempt?

Gail's family, particularly her sister Elaine, was deeply concerned and tried to support her, eventually convincing her to move in with Elaine in Long Island to help her recover.

What was Bob's profession, and how did it influence Gail's family's perception of him?

Bob was a doctor, which was seen as a highly desirable profession by Gail's family, especially her mother, who believed it would provide Gail with financial and social security.

How did Bob's behavior change after the wedding?

After the wedding, Bob became increasingly controlling and neglectful, working long hours and spending most of his time on his computer, leaving Gail feeling isolated and lonely.

What incident made Elaine realize the severity of Bob's abusive behavior?

Elaine realized the extent of Bob's abuse when he strangled Gail during an argument, an incident that Gail reported to the police but did not result in further action.

What was Gail's plan for leaving Bob?

Gail planned to use a letter from Bob's psychiatrist, warning of his dangerous behavior, to threaten him into granting her a divorce and financial support so she could finish her graduate studies.

Chapters
This chapter explores Gail's childhood and teenage years, highlighting her protective nature, the development of psychosomatic asthma, and her family's dynamics. It also touches upon her early romantic relationships and her free-spirited personality, contrasting with her mother's expectations.
  • Gail's protective nature as a child
  • Development of psychosomatic asthma due to anxiety
  • Family dynamics and loud discussions
  • Gail's early romantic relationships and free spirit
  • Mother's high expectations and pressure on Gail to succeed

Shownotes Transcript

Relisten to Season 1 of The Girlfriends.

We head to New York City to learn about Gail. In conversation with her loved ones, Carole hears about Gail’s love stories, curly hair, teenage dreams and the last time her friends saw her. 

If you are affected by any of our topics please reach out to NO MORE at https://nomore.org/girlfriends), a domestic violence charity we’ve partnered with.  

The Girlfriends is produced by Novel for iHeartRadio.

For more from Novel visit novel.audio) Correction: Alayne Katz has brought to our attention that on the morning of Gail and Bob's wedding day (August 29th, 1982) Bob did not stay at their apartment as reported in the podcast, instead he stayed at his parents house in New Jersey. In the morning Gail traveled from her parents house, in Long Island, to their Manhattan apartment where she met with Ouidad to get her hair done. Ouidad did not come out to Long Island as reported. Listen to our soundtrack on Spotify here) or buy the album from Bandcamp). All proceeds go to our charity partner NoMore. Follow Carole on social media here:

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