2025 NFL Draft Round 1 analysis: Jags trade up for Travis Hunter, Shedeur Sanders falls
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This episode of Football 301 slash Yahoo Fantasy Forecast Crossover, don't call it a crossover, whatever you want to call it, we are recapping night one of the NFL draft. Yes, some superlatives that we like, our favorite picks, our least favorite picks, biggest surprises, what we want to see on day two, all that good stuff. Me, Matt, Charles, a lot of fun on round one. Let's recap it. Are your alterative colitis symptoms proving difficult to manage?

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Hello and welcome to Football 301 slash Yahoo Fantasy Forecast Recap Show. It's a crossover slash not crossover. We're all here, so might as well just do it together. I'm Nate Tice, joined by Matt Harmon, Charles McDonald. How are you doing today, Matt? I'm doing great, man. I've never felt better in my entire life. Oh, Jesus Christ. Nothing's better than doing like a four or five hour live show and then immediately hopping on the podcast right after. But no, I am pretty fired up. Yeah.

It was a fun night. Yeah. We used to call this A-barring at Madison, at Wisconsin. You know, after bar. That's what it feels like right now. Yeah. A little 2 a.m., 4 a.m. I need an A-bar after this one. You doing Charles McDonald there? How you doing today, Chuck? I mean, look. As my family members in Mississippi like to say, I'm alive to see a day I ain't seen before. You know? And that's about all I got. Not yet.

Not yet. We've got a few more hours. Yeah, maybe. No, but we just wrapped up our round one live stream, which you can watch on YouTube, on X, on Facebook. But also, you can watch that on the Yahoo Sports app.

app, which I highly suggest that you download before day two, because we're going to be doing a day two live stream of rounds two and three, every single pick on Friday night. But it's a great time to download the app. We've added live activities on iOS, so you can watch each draft pick come through directly from your lock screen. Don't even have to do a little swipe thing or password. Check out the full draft coverage grades. Watch our day two coverage. It's great.

Check out the Yahoo Sports app. Make sure to download it by tomorrow night or today if you're listening to this in the morning on Friday. But anyways, we are here to recap round one, which has included 32 picks. Got some interesting things that happened, to say the very least. But we're going to start with some superlatives. But actually, before we get the superlatives, we're going to go with Shadur Sanders, kind of the main story of the night, falling out of round one completely.

Matt, why do you think he fell? Let's just start off right there. Yeah, I mean, Colorado Buffaloes dominate round one headlines. The only, I mean, big trade up in the top 10 is for Travis Hunter and then Shadur Sanders falls out of the first round. I really don't think like it was all that surprising. Like it's been trending this way for a while. And, you know, frankly, I think,

This is the type of prospect he should be evaluated as. I mean, we've been talking about it the whole time. You and Dane talked about it like in the middle of the college football season this year that he looks more like a day two pick because just from a traits perspective, he doesn't stack up like any of his interviews or, you know, like does he rub people the wrong way or whatever, like anything.

From a bottom line perspective, he just doesn't have the traits of a first round quarterback. Like he can still go in the second round and be successful. That's fine. But again, like I think if you were if you've been paying attention throughout the process, this was not that big of a surprise. Charles, what do you think? Well, yeah, I agree with Matt. And I think that there was a whole lot of during the season and right after the season, probably.

a lot of quarterback thirst, you know, you're, you're probably not happy with how your favorite team quarterback played. You're looking for an upgrade. You see everyone talking about Shador Sanders. So, um, I said on the show, but these are like media creations during the season. And, you know, a lot of people like you and I, Nate, we spend a whole lot of time looking at draft stuff during the season, um,

And we're pretty good at guessing where guys are going to go, but you don't actually get confirmation until after the season when the general managers and the head coaches are looking at it. Because, yeah, Brian Dable could need a head or he can need a quarterback. But is he looking at that while he's game planning for the Eagles in week 15? Probably not really. So when they finally get to it, like, oh, this is a second round guy. Then we catch up as media and now we're here. So I think this is honestly a good lesson for us.

if you're a draft person or if you're someone who likes to draft, how to read into some of the stuff you see during the season. Because most of the time, that's just me and Nate. Oh, I like that guy. Yeah, I like that guy too. And then after the season, we'll get some more info. By the way, you said quarterback thirst. There's really not that many open spots. That's another thing. Once we got past...

I mean, like a certain like the Steelers, obviously, that's still an open spot. But if they don't like him any more than they like the idea of Aaron Rodgers in, you know, this season, like that, that's not a spot that's available. And then beyond there, it's the Giants. It's the Browns.

You talked about it, Charles, when we were going to have Travis Hunter be a Cleveland Brown, which we don't have to live in that reality, thankfully. But you said they're not ready to do anything this year. So what's the point of taking a first-round quarterback? You're not ready to be a good incubator for that guy. And then obviously, again, Jackson Dart goes to the Giants. That's an open spot. But then after that, there really wasn't that much thirst this year because right or wrong, teams have –

convince themselves their current starter is, is, is the guy they're going with. And usually when you get a team or you're trying to move back into the twenties for a guy, it, I think there's a disconnect sometimes with how we view quarterbacks. Tom Brady gets talked about that. He doesn't have traits, even though he's six, five, 230 pounds went to Michigan.

and had a plus arm, and they got better in the NFL. The NFL is a traits league, and that is not just running back and receiver and edge and all these positions. It's quarterback as well. And I think that's the disconnect that happened with Shader Sanders was that he is sub-6-2, which used to be a non-starter for quarterback.

Let's be honest. You were sub, I mean, Drew Brees, who's 6'1 and changed, with the same height as Caleb Williams. No one brought it up with Caleb Williams. Drew Brees had to wait until the second round because he was sub 6'2 20 years ago. He's skinnier on the skinnier side. He's not a thicker build like Caleb or Drew Brees is or Russell Wilson or Kyler Murray, if those guys are of the same build. On top of it, he's more of an adequate athlete, not an excellent athlete or even a very good athlete.

You know, Jackson Dart, do I consider a first-rounder? No. But he has traits. And that's what it really comes down to. And I've said this. I mean, I've considered him a day-two guy throughout this entire process going into last year. Felt crazy for a little bit. But it always comes down to the traits. And the line, it's an old scouting line. That's Hamble, Lecter, ran a 4-3. The NFL would just say they had an eating disorder. There are so many...

personalities in this league, in the NFL, that are big personalities, that coaches can be intimidated by. And they'll still take them because they're talented and they think they're worth any of that. It's a sliding scale. So if your on-field ability is good, they'll make excuses to take you. And that's why I think all the disconnect of the conversation with Shadur was that, oh, it's his off-field personality.

It's all about on-field. That is your biggest part of your resume. So I think this is more where he should be going, and I think it's just there's a lot of recalibration kind of going on right now. Having said that, any fits maybe for Sanders or any other quarterbacks that might pop off on day two? Like Matt said, it's kind of tough pegging landing spots because there aren't too many teams that feel like they need a quarterback. And two that did.

Tennessee and Giants, they filled those holes. So I think Cleveland at the top of round two makes a whole lot of sense only because now you're looking at a low impact investment. You know, if your second round quarterback doesn't work out,

No one's really bad in the line. Yeah, no one cares. You can move on from that pretty quickly. The Browns have done it plenty. Right. They've done it worse than second-round picks. I think what actually fits here is you get to potentially draft your standards without the expectations, which is what they need, considering they paid Myles Garrett, still got the Sean Watson money coming. You can't let that roster fall into total disarray, so you're going to need to pay some more players. I think that that's a great...

From a risk assessment perspective, that's a good spot for him to go. I still think New Orleans is perfect for him too because I love his fit in Kevin Stefanski's offense. I don't love him throwing like –

late in the season, in the wind and the winter, in the conditions of Cleveland. In New Orleans, being a dome, you're in decent weather in some of these NFC South games at portions of the year. I do think he fits well in Kellen Moore's quick game concepts and stuff like that. And again...

if he is their second round pick and like he starts this year and it doesn't go well, okay, well we can just take another guy next year. If now, if they take him to the first round, then there's all these expectations. Like you said, like now I think you've kind of eased that if he's your second round pick. Absolutely. Yeah. And all right, let's move on to some, maybe some of the other big surprises. I mean,

relative surprises or surprises for some, I should say. But Matt, what was maybe your biggest surprise of round one? I mean, I think this was the most surprising pick of round one, which was Emeka Igbuka to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. And there's a couple reasons it's surprising. Number one, it's an offensive player. I think basically every mock draft for a long time had them as a defensive team. I mean, they were like Jihad Campbell,

area for the longest time, and if not that, then a pass rusher. And we talked about that when we did our mock draft. Like, that seemed to be the way they were going to go. But if they were going to go, I could squint at like a Matthew Golden type, just because it's a different version of receiver than they have. I'm not that high on Jalen McMillan. I actually think that Matthew Golden is like the actualized version of what people think Jalen McMillan is, so I could have talked myself into that. But at Bucca, number one, it's the position. It's wide receiver. And then it's the guy. Like, I think if...

if a Mac is going to hit his upside, he probably would be like a Chris Godwin type, but Chris Godwin was on the roster. Like, and you just, you just signed him back. So I can't quite square. Like, is this a signal that maybe they're not all that confident in Chris Godwin, like starting the season or getting back to form. But then again, if that's the case,

why why'd you sign him back i know he's like a franchise kind of cornerstone he's a great he's a great character guy he really like he's so critical to them getting lined up in the right spot but i just can't quite see like if everybody's healthy where a buka fits into the equation here that's kind of where i'm at with that one too and again i the compliment the positive side was like oh yeah jason light does a great job of bridging the present to the future and who knows what mike evans of how many years he's got in the tank

It's just, I don't know. It felt almost like a luxury pick. And where they have so... I mean, just a lot more made sense, I guess. It's not like the worst thing I've ever seen. It's just other aspects or other ways they could have gone, directions they could have gone made sense. I still think maybe Shamar Stewart popped off right before them at 17. Maybe changed some of that, recalibrated it a little bit. But again, this is just...

I don't know. I agree that that one was surprising. Again, not bad. And the player is good. We all love Ibuka. That's the tough part about it. All three of us are big Ibuka fans. And it's just like him being picked in that range of the draft, great. He's a clear first-round graded receiver to me. That's where you want to take him. It's just this team taking him.

I do think like, yeah, Shamar Stewart may be going off the board and maybe they didn't want to take like the falling red flag, red flag guys, whether it's medical with Campbell, Jihad Campbell or medical with Will Johnson or the off field stuff with Mike Green. Like, so maybe they, hey, we're taking probably the safest player in the late first round, which was Zygbuka. It's just, it's an odd position. Charles, what was your biggest surprise in the first round? You know what exactly I'm about to say? I was trying to get it out before I...

What's going on here? Oh, you don't like the Jalen Walker pick? That's all they did, right? It's funny because I was talking to producer Madison and she was like, yeah, you seem pretty normal after the Jalen Walker pick. I was like, yeah, because there's nothing to react to. Pick Jalen Walker at 15 makes a whole lot of sense. But to trade back in for James Pierce, which...

If you can look at it in a vacuum, I think we had James Pierce, or at least I had James Pierce like in the low thirties on my board. So the pick about 26 is not that offensive, but to give up a damn first round pick next year. And this goes back to something that Nate, you and I have talked about over the past few years for this faculty hubris is the word. Dude, they think they're so much better than they are. Yeah.

Which is baffling because they haven't won a damn thing in a long time. They haven't been to the playoffs since 2017. Wow. You and Nick Foles led the Eagles to the Super Bowl. That was the last time the Falcons made the playoffs. So it's been a while, man. You're coming up on 10 years since you've been in the postseason. So I understand if there's a rush from Arthur Blank—

to try and get there i don't think you can make this move without arthur blank's approval because you're paying so much to get james pierce um i just can't believe that they felt like they had to spend that much for me which shows terry fonder's job is on the line this year which means raheem morris is not fully safe either so why are you letting terry trade future picks if he's not safe as this trade would suggest and you made a great point nate during the show

you're so small. So I remember when Dan Quinn was the head coach of the Falcons, one of their biggest problems was on the edges, they were so light. You're talking about moving a 270-pound Adrian Claiborne into defensive tackle. That's how light you are sometimes with Vic Beasley and Tack McKinley and they signed Bruce Irvin too. So you're just getting washed off the edges. This is giving me the same kind of vibes as that. It also makes me wonder like

Where do you view Jalen Walker? Because, um,

In this defense, I guess he's kind of a hybrid player that's going to play a little bit of both. I still think he should be more moving forward, rushing the passer. Obviously, James Pierce is going to rush the passer. You've got another small defensive end in Arnold Ebiketti. Like, this is a really, really small defensive end group, unless you're hoping that, like, Zach Harris or someone like that, you know, really, really blossoms this year. So, look, they needed the pass rush help, but the way they went about it and the players they got, I think you just left yourself vulnerable in so many different facets.

And also it's just that, okay, you can have lighter edges. It's just other parts of your defensive line has to be beefy and like space eaters and ass kickers. And it's no, no, they don't have that. So it's like, yeah, you're getting after the passer. It's a passing league. Guess what? NFL teams, every football team from,

Nine years old peewee upwards will do oh we can run it. Yeah, why throw the ball Oh, I can just run it for five six yards a pop That's why it's just you know, and then using Walker at first I was like, oh I actually like that pick their defense they can use them as kind of almost like how Zach Bond is used in Philly where he's a blitzer at sometimes down forward always going forward could be the pass rush around passing downs just use them in creative ways I actually could see the vision there

And this one just felt like, okay, now you're making it worse. You just did your good thing and now you just made it worse. And you're sacrificing so much. And this draft class plateaus talent-wise. That's why that confused me. It's like this was not the draft to move up back into the 20s unless you're taking a quarterback. But even then, I'm going, these quarterbacks I didn't agree with taking back in the 20s. So –

no, that makes sense. Like it just, the value of it, what you're going after. It's like, yeah, we're getting after the passer. And now you're going to the guy that also needs coaching and development to impact the game. I'll say, I just can't have to pass. It's just, they just create a lot of their own messes. Yeah.

And yeah, that's the point about the teams in their division to like all these run games, Panthers, Bucks and Saints, all three teams, two of them invested in their offensive line recently. And last year, the Bucks invested their offensive line. All of them have my biggest surprise. I had a couple and it wasn't, again, not necessarily negative.

but it was the Dolphins taking Kenneth Grant at pick 13. Just surprised. That was not a, not that Kenneth Grant went high. I could understand why teams would get bullish on him. I believe we're pretty bullish on him overall. He was a guy that was like, oh yeah, I could see him going higher because of what he brings to the table. It's just the Dolphins taking him. Because I think we're just,

trying to figure out the Dolphins. And I was like, oh, yeah. And I thought maybe, you know, offensive line, there's just a few different ways that I just didn't think Kenneth Grant was the step they were going to take. The other one though is, and this is again,

This is more a team going against type. It was about what they've done historically is the Packers taking Matthew Cole. Yes. Not again, not bad. And I thought actually, Matt, your analysis, which I want you to repeat here, kind of like what the Packers kind of ecosystem is. But this is more just that the Packers haven't taken a receiver in the first round since 2002.

And he is below their usual weight thresholds. But I would say the positive is the rest of the room is so big and can handle all these things. You can drop in a quote unquote, maybe slightly undersized guy in there. But Matt, you had some great analysis, I thought, about the goal and the fit with the

Packers. What'd you think about that? Well, yeah, as we're sitting here, you know, past 10 p.m. Pacific, we don't know yet if Matthew Golden has come out and said that he's, oh, I'm actually 197 pounds now. So that is, that is still big decider, still TBD. But yeah, just in terms of him, like,

And I tweeted out like, oh, I love the fit, you know, with with with the Packers and a couple of people were probably like, no, they needed a number one. And you said that Matthew Golden is a complimentary receiver. I think this idea that the Packers need a number one is a little bit overstated because like, yes, it's nice to have an alpha receiver.

really number one, really fricking hard to find that guy. And number two, if you don't find that guy, what you actually need is somebody to dictate coverage to the defense. And what they have is a bunch, they have a bunch of good players in that room. Like I am still high on Jaden Reed and think there's another step for him. I still think like Dontayvion Wicks is not a guy I would give up on just because he really had issues at the catch point last year. Romeo Dobbs is solid, but without Christian Watson, who I also think is like a replaceable player, uh,

You don't have anybody that really stretches out the defense. So that's number one why I think it's a good thing, especially because you're a run-heavy team. You want to get bodies out of the box. Golden's going to allow you to do that. But secondly, his two best routes from a frequency and a success rate standpoint in reception perception were posts and digs. This offense, especially with Jordan Love under center, they want to use play action or drop back and rip defense.

big in breakers like Matthew Golden hit with his route running and separation is best expressed at the break point of those routes in particular. So great fit for the routes that they want to have him run. I think he's going to open things up for the guys that teams can't just squat like man coverage press at the line of scrimmage. So a lot of benefits again, both schematically tactically, but also just what he will give you as a wide out as well.

I actually, it was, it was a surprise that as I sat here, cause I just hadn't pictured golden in that offense. It was like, Oh, maybe they're the McMillan team actually to Toria McMillan. And then golden ended up there. It was like, Oh, okay. They need a field stretcher, which you refer to, which is what Christian Watson was in this offense or his best use. They needed that to open things up. So it was one of those where it's like, okay, yeah, this makes more sense than maybe what I thought. He's the Z.

Reed is a slot. Dobbs is the X. They got Tucker craft, who I'm very high on Luke Musgrave as well is another field stretcher at tight end. So, okay. Okay. All right. We're there. Okay. We can do something here. Despite the physical dimensions too, by the way, like,

that Christian Watson... I hate to bag on Christian Watson because he's not even going to play this season probably because he's injured. But everything that you'd think he'd give you, like big toughness at the catch point, that Matthew Golden actually does that. Like running these... Because...

Watson is a Z receiver for them. He's not an X despite his build. They kind of have like a sacrificial X receiver in Romeo Dobbs, really. So I think it just like you're basically replacing Watson. It just looks it comes in a different package. That's it. Yeah. But that role in the offense, though. All right. We are going. Actually, you did bring up the dig routes. And it's so funny because it's like that's what they throw over and over. Dagger, seam, dagger, seam, dagger over and over.

but we're going to do either though. He could be the guy that's clearing it out or he could be the, and that's where you have the big bodies working underneath it. All right. We are going to take our first break and then we can get back with some of our favorite picks and some of our least favorite picks.

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All right, we are back with the FB301 slash YFF crossover. It's getting late. I gotta get myself entertained, guys. All right, so we are doing our favorite picks now.

Charles, let's start with you. What was your favorite pick in the first round? Oh, I was really worried about the Browns, but I love how they went about this first round. Totally redeemed yourself. Yes, totally redeemed. Because I was sitting there like, oh my God, they're going to take a wide receiver number two overall when they have all these problems. But they traded down. You pick up the first round pick from Jacksonville, which, hey, that's the Jacksonville Jaguars. Okay? Yep. Yeah.

As much... You know, you're right. Don't need to go too much, but they had the fifth pick this year for a reason. They were not a good football team. I think you can say that even trading the first round pick for them was a risk, but we'll see what happens. I think the Browns to be able to get that pick was huge in terms of their rebuild, though, because...

you're strapped for cap space over the next few years with big investments in Deshaun Watson, Miles Garrett. So you need cheap players. Best way to do that is draft picks. So I thought the process to get here was good. And then they picked the player they really needed. Because if you looked at their defensive tackle room prior to drafting Mason Graham, you would have said this is a clear, like,

red alert need for uh the cleveland browns to a point where yeah you got miles garrett but we can run away from miles garrett if you don't have the defensive tackles on the field so i think to get someone like mason graham into the fold makes a big difference and at his best he can be one of those defensive tackles to get seven eight nine sacks in the season which is obviously what you want to have next to miles garrett so i really really like that pickup for the

The one D tackle they still had in the roster, and I actually kind of forgot about the guy because he kind of got into his own issues, was Mike Hall, the guy from Ohio State, a defensive tackle, really disruptive player. I was really high on him last year and actually had some flashes once he finally saw the field. So actually it's like that got me pretty excited in a Jim Schwartz defense, Mason Graham, Mike Hall, Myles Garrett, Ogo Ogo, Brockwood, go. Earspin back, go. I thought this was a much better defensive fit for Graham, too.

Again, one gapping going, just going, going, going. So, yeah, I really like that. We'll talk more about the Travis Hunter trade in a moment.

Matt, what was your favorite pick of round one? Armand Membu to the Jets, man. Number one, I'm just a big fan of the player. I've said this a lot, that he is really fun to watch, even if you don't like watching offensive line play, which you should like watching offensive line play. But, I mean, he's just so aggressive. I think he's really a tone setter. And he just, to me, is a finishing piece for this Jets offensive line that they've been –

trying to fix trying to build up and I think they've got some some hits there like Fashanu looks like a dude as their left tackle you know when he's on the field Elijah Barrett Tucker is a really really good player um like John Simpson Joe Tipton like these guys I think that's a pretty good like foursome and then you just stick Membu at the end at right tackle and you suddenly have like

I'm not going to say this is like the Detroit Lions offensive line, but you're building the team that way. And, and everything that the jets have done this off season has been signaling, Hey, we're going to run the piss out of the football, you know, defensive heavy head coach or defensive minor head coach. You get Justin Fields as your quarterback. And it,

To me, the reason Justin Fields is a New York Jet is because anytime he would – he might have been in a slump of all slumps as the Bears quarterback. He saw Aaron Glenn's defense on the other side and he would just run all over them. So I just think he's going to be very involved in the run game and Membu is going to be a huge asset there. And beyond the fact that I think like –

technically I think he gets a little undersold for what he is as a technician as an offensive lineman still raw and developing a little bit but like if he can get all the way there he can also be a stalwart pass protector but I think about Tanner Angstrand as the offensive coordinator coming from Detroit like they really weaponized Panay Sewell as their right tackle and I think maybe not right away but in time Armand Membu can be that type of player for them yeah you mentioned Fashanu it's it that's a

High, high potential bookends right there. Not a lot of teams can even speak to. Young, man. Athletic. They fit in any type of offense, too, which is nice. So if they want to remold to this offense based on once they move on from field, somebody gets in a year or two. But for what they are now, yeah, let's lean into the run game. I made this joke on the show, but Jets games might last two hours because they don't run the ball so much.

And their best room on their offense is a running back room. So Brees Hall, TBD though. Yeah, we'll see. But Braylon Allen, go Badgers. And then Isaiah Davis, who Aaron Rodgers looked like was begging to get on the field. And I think he actually was right with one of his evaluations.

So, no, but now we got the Jets. Just don't look at Malachi Corley. Yeah, yeah. I think the Jets align, though. Wow. The Jets have been, as soon as Aaron Glenn got there, they've been in timeout. I would say timeout, but just maybe meditating on themselves a little bit. And I like this. It's like, this is what you should be doing. Good job. Way to stay patient. This is exactly the type of investment. Made sense to take Membu. Yeah, really liked it. I'm going to go with

There was a combo at pick 10, 11, which were two. It was Colson Loveland to the Bears and then Mikel Williams, number 11, to the 49ers.

That ended up being probably my favorite pick of the first round. Not probably, it is. One is just because I could envision it. I could see what the 49ers were needing. They've been really kind of lost their way up front. It's a defense that wants to play light boxes, and they needed guys that can stop the run. And they want to have speed. They want to get upfield as well, ears pinned back and all that. But they need a guy to set the edge. They need a guy to push the pocket. And I think he's just amazing.

perfect edge player to compliment Nick Bosa. I couldn't ask for a better pairing. Finesse guy, power guy. Also, it's young. Developing pass game. I think he's going to be a plus-run defender right away. Yeah, I was all for this. D-tackle, edge, oral line for them. Hopefully they're going to do it. I like Mike Hell maybe more

Better than some of the other answers they might have gotten. Like, I like him better than Shamar Stewart for them. I like him better than Walter Nolan for them. This one made a lot of sense to me, and I really like the pair. Because you talk about, like, the development of the 49ers team and the line. When they were at their best, they had four first-round picks. Right. You know. All developed, right? I think Dee Ford was a second-round pick. But you had Art Armsad, DeForest Buckner, Nick Bosa. Yeah, Kinlaw. Kinlaw, you know, who they tried.

Give it a shot. Give the college a try. You know, Chris Cork's been a guy who's gotten a lot of love in the media. So here's a chance to actually go develop someone that you might have not done in the past few years. It's not like a reclamation project. Right. Because it hasn't gone too well for them. Why I stayed so bullish on Mikel, too, is that a lot of his plays, even though he's developmental, weren't bad.

And so that was encouraging to me. There's something to that when you're just, yeah, you're not making the play or making the significant play, but you're also not the negative on the team. I don't know. There was something, there's something to that for a 20-year-old. You're not the reason your linebacker gets messed up. Right. Which I can tell you. Exactly. All right. We're going to go to the flip side of this.

least favorite pick of the first round. Charles, start with you. Either of the running back picks probably, but I'm going to go with Amari Hampton from the Chargers. And I want to point this out because I love the player. And in theory, I love the fit with that style of offense. You know, power run game,

We're not trying to hide who we are. We're going to give our running back a million carries. I just don't think the Chargers are nearly good enough to be making this pick. When I look at their interior off the line, that still looks like a disaster zone to me. Makai Beckton is an improvement. Is Jeff Sauer coaching him? Right. And also, to me, it's more...

You get caught up on some of the pancake blocks. You get caught up on the height, weight, speed, but the consistency down and down is not there. Even in the Super Bowl. The whole playoff run. Really did not have a great time. But when you got Saquon Barkley, all you needed to move someone just a little bit. And if you have a big block on a Saquon Barkley touchdown run, everyone goes, Mekhi Becton had a great game. Great game. Watch that one. That's all it takes. So I still think there's a whole lot of potential for them to be

You know, if you look at the amount of drives that the Chargers wasted and didn't even get to another first down, they were almost half of their draft. They were worse than the league at that specific stat. I don't know how this pick makes you better because, you know,

You're still going to try to do the same thing. You still have the same ecosystem that's there. So maybe you get a little bit better. But to me, the still profiles is one of the worst offenses in football. I don't think you did nearly enough to change that. Signing Mekhi Becton and adding Amari Hampton and Najee Harris has not changed what you were last year. And I think that that's really concerning for them.

I disagree with you a little bit just because I – well, number one, I'm also really high on Hampton. Yeah, he's a good player. Yeah, he's a good player. And I just don't think any of their backs were that good last year. Like J.K. Dobbins had a couple of like long runs, which certainly Hampton is going to do that as well. But I think actually having Harris and especially Hampton who – this will be – especially from a fantasy perspective, like –

Nahara's going to get the veteran deference probably in September and he's going to lead the team he carries. But by December, Hampton's going to be the guy you want. So you just got to be patient there. But I think in time, those guys from a tandem perspective are going to really elevate that run game. Because I think the...

The bones of it were there last year. I actually just think the backs were a bigger issue than people wanted to make because Dobbins was a good story. But they do need more work, especially – They need a lot more work. They need a lot more work on the interior and like pass catcher too obviously. They got to add a body there. When you look at like the best versions of Greg Roman's offense that he's had in the NFL –

2019 you go to Baltimore Marshall Yonda on the interior yeah the healthiest version of Ronnie Stanley you go back to the Chargers Micah potty who's the Alex I forget what his name is he played guard Ohio State you got two guys

In joe alt and rashaun slater. Yeah rashaun slater who has half the games every year Joe all who's a rookie? So to me you got one and a half off of the lineman for an offense that wants to run the ball every play The turds are a weird team. Like I I do I like the hampton pick. It was definitely one of the worst roster So much last year they did and then the roster is kind of like the same it is. Yes Oh, yeah, so I can guard two running backs i'm kind of

Like I'm kind of with you, but I just – I like the player so much and I think he's going to be such a good fit that that's why I don't want to kill the pick. But I do think like – it's sort of like we talk about the Dolphins like –

I don't really know what the hell the Dolphins are. With the Chargers, we're like, I don't really know what the Chargers are. I have a little more intrigue with it. You also forgot about the Ravens off the line. Orlando Brown Jr., who was the right tackle. That's right. That was big ass. They were really good. Greg Roman, every year he's had success, he's had the offensive line to pull it off. Right. It's a lot easier. Yes. When you have talent up there, it's like, oh, go do your thing, guys. Thanks. That was a lot easier. These designs work out a lot better. I'm with you. When they brought back Bozeman, I was like, huh?

Yeah. You don't think you need an upgrade there? No? No? Okay. All right. That's what you're doing? That's kind of how I looked at it. I thought they were going to go defense.

Or if a tight end was there, meaning Loveland or Warren was there, maybe. But I thought they were going to go defense all the way because, again, they outperformed what they have on the roster. But that means you need talent to make your job easier. So that one was a curious decision. I do like Hampton. I agree. I use my back two. This is where I thought he would go, somewhere in the 20s as well. I totally get him going the first round. Chargers was a curious landing spot. Matt?

your least favorite pick of the first round i mean tyler warren come on i just like they don't need another guy that they can't get the football to and actually the more like how does that make them any better like it to be fair there was nothing they could do in round one that would really make me think they're going to be a better team like i ultimately i just think

This the season is going to go exactly like this. Both those guys, Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson, are going to play. They're going to start games. I don't know what order.

I don't know which one's going to go first, which one's going to go second, and which one are they going to go back to again? And everybody's going to get fired at the end of the year. I don't know that there's really anything in round one that they could have done that would make me feel any differently than that. But certainly taking a first round tight end doesn't really move the needle for me. And again, I admit my bias here that I like Pittman. I love Downs.

I'm intrigued by AD Mitchell and like Alec Pierce is an interesting player as well. So I just, again, I already think those guys weren't being maximized enough. I don't understand how throwing another body into the mix for a team that just like doesn't have a consistently accurate quarterback. I don't understand how that's going to really move the needle here. And secondly, the more I think about the Tyler Warren pick specifically, he's not just like a traditional inline tight end that you're going to throw out there and go,

let him go do real tight end things. Like you've got to kind of design things for him. You got to like get him working horizontally to be a yards after catch player. Well, like Michael Pittman's best stuff is when you get him working horizontally, 80 Mitchell, like for his good plays, his good routes where he pops in like certain separation metrics, it's

is when you get him moving horizontally. And, okay, great. Like Josh Downs, get him running those dig routes. And you've got two quarterbacks who don't anticipate and can't hit guys in stride. So just like, great, Tyler Warren, that's the sort of stuff you're going to have to do with him. And, again, you just don't have a quarterback who can maximize that. Also, I would say the interesting group of pass catchers they have are receivers I have.

I would say we're in agreement. Downs is probably the most, is the productive one, the one that's like, okay, the most sure thing. Now you're eating to a guy that is going to fill the same area of the field in a lot of the same roles. And also with Warren, as dynamic he is with the ball in his hands and some of the versatility he can do,

It's just kind of like this isn't really the offense I envisioned him in. I envisioned him with one that had different sets of weapons. Like with him, like Steichen can use Warren on RPOs, keep him out of blocking, blocking in line. But again, it's like, all right, now I need a blocking tight end on my roster, a true one.

Okay. All right. Now we're just creating more problems. Now we have a slot only guy, you know, downstairs. Good. But yeah, it's only slot only. All right. Pierce can only run certain routes. Like everybody's going to become specific and that's, that's not what you want to do in the first round. A first round tight end is a luxury pick. Yes. Like, and you made the point to Fitz when, you know, he was giving you grief for your Ashton Gentry, uh, pick Charles or your, uh, your grade Charles is like the,

you know, you didn't give him a good grade for Brock Bowers last year. And you immediately said like, yeah, how many games did they win? Like, and Bowers had a historically productive season for a rookie tight end. Warren's number one, not going to come anywhere close to that, but it's just like, that doesn't move the needle for you. Like, great. You, you, you cleared out a bunch of space and your tight end ate on a bunch of routes. Like that,

It just doesn't do it for you. This is a team that had other needs. They had needs at pass rusher. They had needs on the offensive line. Two offensive linemen left this offseason. I know they have some in-house replacements, but geez. Again, I admit my bias here, but I also think it doesn't make a lot of football sense. Can you imagine a world, to the Brock Bryars point, where the Colts give Tyler Ward like 160 targets this year?

No way. They're going to be a run first team no matter what. Yeah, that's another thing. No matter what. It doesn't matter how they invest in pass catchers. Their two quarterbacks, Richardson and Jones, are run first quarterbacks. That's how they win. And it's an offensive coordinator or offensive play caller that will use that. They're never going to be a pass heavy offense. Even if Anthony Richardson sticks long term, it will never be a pass heavy offense.

So again, it's just like this. I don't know. I would much rather have a burly blocker tight end in day two than a guy that's more of a receiving only one. Yeah, it's too much of a luxury for a team that can't afford any luxuries right now, to be honest. My least favorite pick, that is just because I just didn't think any quarterback –

outside of Cam Ward, deserve to go in the first round. That's the Giants moving back into the first round to take Jackson Dart. This is just more my assessment of all the quarterbacks in this class. I already talked about Shadur Sanders. After Cam Ward, I kind of grouped everybody else in on day two. And I get it. The quarterback desperation is always a thing. But really why this is my least favorite pick, it's just like this is the Giants continuing to

I don't know, try and do things to keep the jobs afloat. Try to also build long-term, do short-term with the same thing. They have a quarterback room with two veteran guys that used to be the dudes. I don't think they're really intent on being, or really keen on being mentors for a guy that I think is going to need mentorship. It's an offensive staff or a coaching staff and a GM that needs to win, but then they're developing guy. They need offensive line help because their court current quarterback, whether it's the vet or the rookie is,

Kind of folds under pressure. Yeah, I don't know. Anything else am I missing here? This is why we didn't want them to draft Shador in the first place. Correct. It was any quarterback. Any quarterback in the first round. Because, man, if you're watching on the YouTube screen, we have the Giants depth chart with Jackson Dart plugged in the middle.

This ain't saving nobody's job. No. Come on. Let's get real. So here's the roadmap that I see for Jackson Dart, right? You get to camp. He's probably not better than Russell Wilson or James Winston. Whatever. So you bench him, okay? Then you're sifting through the season. You stink because you weren't a good team last year. And I'm going to guess at some point during the season, Brian Dayball will get fired because—

They won't win any games. Look at the NFC East. They're not better than Dallas. They're not better than the Giants or the commanders. And they're sure as hell not better than Philadelphia. So there's a very real scenario where you win like a max two games in division. And I think that will be pretty good for where they are right now. This is you're sliding down the slope. And then what happens? Brian Dable and Joe Shone gets fired. Then you're you're hiring a head coach and general manager. They have no allegiance to Jackson Dart, which is fantastic.

Such an easy situation to see right now. Yeah. You're already seeing to me the ramifications of not cleaning house in January because you're stuck between, well, we need Russell Wilson and James Winston if we're going to do our best to compete this year. But I also need to draft this guy. So maybe I can, you know. We need drafts. We need drafts. But maybe I can say, oh, John Morrow, we didn't get to play Jackson Dart because of –

No. So you're just dooming this kid to having one of those careers where it's two coaches, three offensive coordinators who don't. And this is all foreseeable right now. Right now, but they've decided to take this bizarre path for whatever reason. And Dart has traits, and this was the flip side of the Shadur Sanders thing, is like Dart has traits to work with that makes it exciting. But it was just so funny to me, Dable, Ryan Dable, who's being anointed as a QB guru for some reason, has...

re-sign Daniel Jones or as a part of the regime that said, yeah, yeah, let's extend him. Okay, we're good with that. All right. Goes terrible. He's now in Indianapolis.

Now they draft a quarterback that has the same flaws as the quarterback that just got rid of. Doesn't throw over the middle, throws a deep ball that kind of fades on them. Skittish under pressure. Also like run first. That's one quality he does have, but also best off play action. That's what Jackson dark did a lot. He's going to have to develop a back, a drop back passing game and pass to be able to read the whole entire field.

These are the exact same things that Daniel Jones was going through. I guess you reset and say, hey, we got him day one and we can work with it. And I get it. Coaches and stuff really like Dart's personality. He's competitive. He's tough. I get all that. And that is something that is appealing to like this guy can be the guy.

It's just rich. It's for a team that cannot do anything rich. The good thing is they didn't have to give up too much. They didn't give up next year's first rounder. Especially after the Falcons picked up in the right after. Right, right, right. So yeah, definitely that's the only silver lining. But also, Daniel Jones, I don't think this got discussed enough last year, but his arm had clearly died on him.

Because, want to know why? Because he's like, oh yeah, Daniel Jones is a pretty good runner. And he'd go out there and get himself smoked. And I mean, you know, look, John Gruden's John Gruden, but I saw a clip of him in his quarterback camp, like laying into Dart for making stupid decisions when he's a runner and getting himself crushed.

So it's like even that's like the danger zones thing and it's there's like, you know A segment of people that like wish that the draft happened before free agency I do think for the Giants it would be nice if that was the case cuz now like what's the point of have certainly what's like? What is the point of James Winston being on this roster like? but even Russell Wilson like cuz like Russ

Again, you're right. Russ is not going to mentor Jackson Dart for a single second because Russ is on his last legs. He's trying to still establish himself and keep himself as a starting quarterback. Is he going to take a backseat in New York? No. No way. He went to New York to be in the front seat. So now he's not invested in mentoring Dart. And yeah, even if Brian Dayball survives the year,

it's the same situation with the Colts. Like what is the scenario where he's back next year? Like Dart has five promising ish games. Like, no, that, that never happens. It's funny about the, the table quarterback whisper stuff is like,

When you look at the times where things got tough for Daniel Jones, what's the first thing Brian did? Take the damn ball out of his hands. And show him up on the sideline, too, by the way. We're either going to—when Saquon Barkley's on the team, I remember there was a game against—I want to say it was Jacksonville, where they had the ball in the last minute of the game, and they gave the Saquon nine times in a row. Yeah.

close that game right and then you fast forward even to last year when you got Tyron Tracy on the center what does Brian do when Daniel can't throw the ball we're going high school wing tee offense bro we're got quarterback sweeps we're running pitches so quarterback whisper stuff doesn't mean anything to me because I do think Dave was a solid enough play caller yeah game points are actually pretty good game points are fine but

you know, a quarterback whisper from a guy who's going to pull that ball from his quarterback, it doesn't quite work. And like you said, we've seen Dable on the sideline tearing into Daniel Jones, tearing off the players. So for a young quarterback that needs to be built up. Yeah. I know. This is kind of interesting fit. And you've talked about the players in this roster too. Like they have Malik neighbors. That's it. Tracy. Yeah.

he's fine. Like it's a lot of guys like that's, they're acceptable to play. Like I think, yeah, it's not embarrassing that Tyron traces you're starting running, but it's not embarrassing that Darius Slayton's your second outside receiver. I'm not gonna say anything about Wanda Robinson, but like, it's just not, it's not none of these guys other than neighbors move the needle. And I just like, that's not a good situation for a young quarterback.

Yeah, a dual car would be fun, at least. Yeah, right. That's a good point. They did have another first round pick. That's okay. Yeah, nice little recreate the NASCAR package. Giants defense, still bullish on them. The other trade that happened that kicked off the draft, actually, essentially, was...

The Browns and Jaguars have a little deal there. You already talked about the Mason Graham selection being the repercussion, I guess, or the reward, I guess, for the Browns for moving back down to five. But the Jaguars moved up from five to two. James Gladstone, Liam Cohen, F them picks. He is a less need disciple. Move up to two takes Travis Hunter, Heisman Trophy winner. Purple chip talent. Number one corner, number one receiver. Everyone knows Travis Hunter.

But what was what do you think right now, Matt, of or what do you think of the projection of Travis Hunter on a Jaguars uniform, how they might use him? Yeah, Liam Cohen came out and said that he sees him as an offensive player first. Like that's how it's going to start. And I do think that's.

We always want everything to happen right away. I do think this will be a journey for Travis in terms of what he becomes. Even if he's not a full-time player as a rookie on both sides of the ball, maybe he could eventually grow into that once he does. Because I think...

You guys have done a good job pointing this out about his lack of refinement as a receiver. And as much as I love him as a separator, there's a difference between being an elite separator and an elite route runner. I do think he can be an elite separator right away because he's just –

I mean, he's a freak show. He's an unbelievable – he has rare movement skills in addition to his rare ball skills. So he can be that elite separator, especially in this offense that puts guys in conflict. Like I said, Jalen McMillan is making plays down the field wide-ass open because of the separation in space this –

offense is able to create. So he could be an instant impact player and he's more growth on that side of the ball. So it makes sense to throw him into the deep end as a receiver and then, you know, kind of develop him slowly as a, as a cornerback. So on offense though, I do think this like,

As much as the Browns taking him at second would have been understandable because he's so dynamic, he would have had to be the capital T, capital M man over there in Cleveland. He doesn't have to be that. Brian Thomas Jr. is a guy who can play all three receiver positions. Cohen's already talked about how high on –

high on him as a slot receiver that he is and obviously Travis Hunter in 2023 was like mostly a slot receiver and then last year was only an X receiver so I think having those two guys in conflict like that is a very very dangerous offense I know I Liam Cohen and that Bucks offense last year was so screen heavy in a good way Baker Mayfield threw more screens than anybody if not number one he was number two it's him and Mahomes yeah they threw the most screens most throws behind the line of scrimmage receivers running backs tight ends they used them all

Travis Hunter is exceptional at a lot of things. Exceptional on screen. That's like one little quirk of this or one little match here. I'm very excited. But Charles, what do you think? Do you think on defense, Travis Hunter, what do you think about the fit there with Jacksonville? It'll be interesting because I just don't see a world where you can be an offensive player first.

and play cornerback and dabble in that. There's too much communication, there's too much coordination. These coverages are too complex. Like the idea to me that, oh, you'll just go out there on third down and play corners, that's insane. Because I'll find the guy, you might be a best athlete, but you don't know what you're doing. Or if you haven't practiced as much with defense. - I guess you can only play man coverage. - Right, right, right. - So there's like, Travis Hunter on man coverage? - They're blitzing if Travis is on the field or something like that.

So it'll be interesting just to see like how you distribute that. So you don't, if you do want to play both ways, I mean, that was kind of the case before,

The other way, too, if you want to play mostly defense and play offense, well, how do we get it? So when Travis comes on the field, everyone doesn't already know what play we're running. Yeah, right. So you have to figure that out for yourself. But I do think that if you're playing defense, like you potentially have two CB1s on the field with a pass rush that could use it. Because obviously Josh Hines-Allen's a great player. Trayvon Walker's a solid number two player.

But those guys could still benefit from having a healthy CB tandem that they haven't had over the past few years with Tyson Kimmel missing injuries. So it'll be fascinating, you know, because if you see him as the offensive player first, my question would be like, well, then what role do you see him playing on defense? Because it's just really hard. There's so much coordination. And defense is, you know, when you're looking at coverages, it's a whole lot of like,

guys have the right answers to a bunch of if-then equations. You know, if this quarter, this receiver breaks this way, then you're going that way, I'm going this way. You can't really do that if you're not on the field every play. So, I think if you're going to do offensive first, you have to just live in that world. Do we have a sense of, like, what Jacksonville is going to be on defense? Hmm.

Not really. On the secondary end, then just. It's like from a scheme perspective, obviously it's easy to see, like we know what Cohen probably wants to be on offense and just like the whole trickle down effect there. But just, yeah, I mean, it's a very inexperienced staff too. That's enough. Yeah, that's why it,

I'm fine with being aggressive in the draft and everything. There's a time and a place when a player's there. It's just a lot of these things where I'm like, a lot of this is okay. Let's see how the execution is. The fact that these teams, first Cleveland and now Jacksonville, it's going like, yep, offense first. Chill. Have you guys reflected on all this and actually thought about the plan? I guess it's exciting. I want to see them on offense. I think his ball skills are tremendous. On defense, what you're speaking to, Charles, is that

The match coverage rules that most defenses play these days, there's spot drop, there's man. You have to know the common route concepts of the offense. That takes film study. That takes practice. It takes communication. That to me is much a thing that you have to do full time or at least be there 80% of the time. While offense, it's like I on offense, I can run up to play, talk, call play. All right. Travis is the Z on this play. I can just say Z dig.

All right, Travis knows that. I could teach him that. Again, this is me on the outside. That's how I would do it. I think he's a special talent. I'm just curious how they actually end up deploying him. All right, we are going to take our last break and come back with a few more superlatives and wrap this up. It's starting to sound like spring, but it's not official till you've lit up the grill with Kingsford Original Charcoal. This time of year, as we break in the backyard with friends and family...

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Indeed.com slash NBC Sports. We are back. Home stretch of the round one recap. Matt, as we go into day two, who are some of the best players remaining on the board or ones that you want to see getting taken off the top? Yeah, I mean, I'm really curious where Travion Henderson, Ohio State running back goes because

I mean, there are a couple teams in round one that I think made sense for him. Like, I know Denver's very high on him. They were mentioned as a trade-up team in round one. Could they be a team that moves up in the second round at some point if he falls into the right range? I think Washington's another team that I think has a really high opinion of him as well. And obviously, they didn't go running back in the first round. So he's just somebody that I think...

I'm not going to say he's landing spot dependent, but like my intrigue level with him will go up or down based on where he lands. Because I think like a coach like Sean Payton, for example, it would be really fun to see how he would deploy Henderson because it's funny because I don't think he's like a A-plus receiver or an A-plus runner. He's kind of just –

He's such a good pass protector, obviously, but he's very useful as a potential receiver. And I also think like he's explosive as a runner, even if not like

consistent as well. You might always need to be in a team. You might always need to be in a tandem. Like obviously Denver didn't end up with Ashton Gentry. That was the dream spot of like, okay, then they have to have a feature back. But usually Peyton wants to operate with these tandem. So it's just like, again, it's the spot that I want to see for him because I think he could really be extremely useful, but you know, further along the useful scale, like not just eyes useful, like no, he's really useful to this team. If it's the right landing spot. No, I guess it's like,

What if Tony Pollard could pass protect? Right. That's like what you're looking for. But you get a little bulky guy with him. Oh, now we're cooking. But you're saying like he – yes, he's in a split, but it's not like he's good at his split. Yes. He has the juice to be like featured, but he needs to be with another guy. I mean, shoot. Ask every fantasy football dork like what they were saying about Tony Pollard when he was behind Ezekiel Elliott. It was always like –

Love to see more of Tony Pollard. And then once he had a run in short yard drive. I'd love to see not Tony Pollard. I remember that run against the Dolphins at the end of 2023. Oh, yeah. The goal line. Yeah. It was like there. That was it right there. And that was like the 10th play like that season. Charles, I play...

Best player remaining or a player that you're interested to see that way? Will Johnson, by far, I think, is for me the best player on the board. I'm a little surprised he didn't go around one at all. Yeah, I know. I think we talked about him potentially dropping to the teens, early 20s, but to see no team...

take a bite on him because we had who are the cornerbacks that went around? Was it just Travis and the Hairston and the Jaday Barron? Yeah. And Barron. Yeah. Right. So I, you know, Barron, I don't think it's surprising at this point going over Johnson, but Harrison's a little surprising. Yes. Especially looking at the whole body of work because we were coming into 2024 and

as Will Johnson is like a no-brainer player that you only have to think about. He was my mid-season number one player. Yeah. It's crazy. Right. And I understand, man. It's been a rough probably since that moment. Yep. Since the USC game all downhill because you have the injuries during the season. You've had multiple injuries after the season. People wondering what the hell happened. Why did you stop playing for Michigan that hard, that fast last year? So he had to answer a lot of questions and

For a player, maybe we're looking at the long speed. You still haven't really gotten answers about that either. So I understand the questions piling up. But still, let's see what the top of the second round is pretty interesting. But if he lasts longer at the top of the second round, something is really important. Is there a team you guys you'd like to see him land with? Because it's like Browns, Texans, Titans, Browns, Raiders, Patriots, Bears, Saints, Bears. A lot of couple of those. Saints makes sense. Saints.

Yeah, and Titans because they have – Jets and Niners are 10 and 11 in the second round. How are those teams? Niners actually would make some sense. They got extra picks too, which you know they love to burn those picks. They take two running backs. I figure at this point – They should do it just so they don't. Yeah. Any team makes sense at this point. It really does. How often do we talk about corners like pass rushers just stack up? How many you can get?

Yeah. And honestly, I, in the other analogy I've always used for corners is like pitchers of baseball. I just keep drafting them. It's like, they're going to be healthy. They're going to be volatile. Yeah. Everyone can use a corner. I mean, that's the thing. Is he going to go Ryan's at the top of the second round? Like offensive lineman pass catcher. Forget it. I want more DB. Cause like, that's the thing with like a corner. It's like offensive lineman too. It's, I don't know. You can always use a guy to like, how bad is his floor? Like, you know what I mean? Like, okay. All right. Maybe he doesn't have the top end speed. All right. That's a ceiling.

All right, well, it's four. I feel like it's pretty dang good. So, like, are we saying he's worse than a quarterback, too? Like, that's, I would take that even with injury concerns, just because the upside of getting a two or a one in the second round is tremendous. Titans are always getting fried in the secondary, too, and they're obviously high in there. Oh, God, they take more injured people.

Well, yeah, it's good. John Robinson's not there anymore. I'd say I just kind of went literal with my answers here. I just went down who was best remaining on my big board. Mike Green, Edge from Marshall. Will Johnson, already mentioned him. Mason Taylor, tight end from LSU. And then Donovan Ezeraku.

edge from Boston College. This kind of felt like the range for Taylor and Azuraku. Anywhere from 20 to 40 made sense to me. And then green, obviously there's the off-field stuff that was told that teams weren't worried about, but it seems like they are because he just fell out of the first round and that talent, he has first-round pass rushing talent. That obviously has concerned teams. Easy to connect the dots there. Alright, this is how we're going to wrap it up. One thing

Charles you want to see on day two quarterback run. We got a short standards on the board Tosh ducks on the board when you were still on the board Jalen Milrow might be the one I'm most interested in right because who Milrow you You can kind of see whatever you want to see there, right? I think the reason why he didn't go in the first round because the come down to now consistency is really really poor really lacking and

I guess consistency of good play because he is consistently inconsistent in terms of how he throws the ball. But you're looking at a guy who runs like real 4-3 speed with the ability to run in between the tackles. And every once in a while, man, that arm strength lets it uncork. It's just some of the most incredible throws on the track that you've seen. Yeah, yeah. But...

The reason why he's still on the board is because that stuff doesn't happen often enough. And honestly, even sometimes on the scrambles, he'll make some baffling decisions, like where he's running backwards, running out of bounds. If you can keep on a track and point him where to go, you can have a monster. But he's still trying to figure it out. But I'm still really excited to see where he's going. Yeah, that was, yeah, Milrow, I want to see the Steelers draft him.

We are all on board with that. Charles Robinson threw that bone to me at the end of our live show where I was like, he's like the Zoomer Cordell Stewart. And he's like, well, yeah, they kind of see him the same way too. Because if they do their Aaron Rodgers path, which...

really looks like it's happening. That's, I mean, we're talking about mentorship and all that stuff. But anyway, another discussion, but Miller was supposed to be a great character guy. It makes a lot of sense to use him as a package player with an old quarterback like that and use him basically how Justin Fields was used last year. But this one's a little bit easier to say, hey, our round three guy that we want to get on the field, not this guy that we want kind of the start.

So yeah, Milrow with the Steelers is just something I kind of want to see half circle because it just makes a lot of sense. Does need a lot of work as a passer, but he's interesting. And then my other one is just the running back landing spots. Yeah. I just want to know where everybody ends up because there's so many running backs in this tier starting now. It was,

you know, after the top two guys who are kind of their own tier, Genti and then Hampton, the rest three through like 10 for me, three through 11 are in this next tier. And I'm curious how the league views them. Cause there's even a couple more guys that I'm lower on that I know people are higher on. So we'll call that 14 guys we can even say. So it's, that's going to be a lot of very exciting. Matt,

was the one thing that you are keeping your eye on and want to see on day two. Yeah, I mean, I know I'm kind of playing the hits for me here, but I do think this actually is a real thing. It's the receiver run on day two. And there's two reasons I think this is important. One, because I think...

a lot of interesting guys that are going to go on day two. I mean, number one, Luther Burden falling out of the first round is not a shock, but I do think the second round pick is a nice value. Jalen Knoll is a guy that I think is an earmarked player for me that I have ranked in a way that if you took him in the first round, I've been totally fine with it. And then beyond those two guys, it's like

Jack Bess, Kyle Williams, you know, Torrey Horton, Trey Harris, like depending, it's all, and then it's the flavor that you need. Other people like Jaden Higgins more than me, but the right team, the right vision, I could get Denver, by the way, I think would be a great spot for him. Like, cause Denver,

basically just what Devon Bailey was doing for them last year, but you know, probably a little bit souped up there. Um, 10 years younger. Yeah. 10 years younger. Speaking of old guys, like the only other guy that I would have is like a good third round pick is like probably Andrew Armstrong out of Arkansas. And I'm, I, I like him more than other people do. Cause he's got extra receiver traits. But after that, like,

It's over. Then it's a big drop, right? It's a big drop after that. So I think we could see a point where those pass catchers start coming off hot and heavy because the drop off there. And again, it's just all of those guys I mentioned, like Jack Bess and Jalen Knoll, like two totally different players. So it's what do you want at the position? That's critical. And then the second point is, I think like from a fantasy perspective, like

there could be guys that go on the second round. I was talking with our producer, Dan Harris, about this for the live show tomorrow. It could be guys that go in the second round that outproduce some of those first round receivers. Oh, yeah. Certainly Emeka Igbuka and even Matthew Golden. I love the fit with the Packers, but it's still a run heavy offense, crowded room. You know, Jaden Reed is still there. He's going to command targets. And, you know, a TMAC in Carolina, probably he's maybe separate from this discussion. I think he's a big winner in all this. But those two guys, like,

But, yeah, Bash is in the right spot or Kyle Williams is in the right spot. I could see him being more productive than some of the round one guys as rookies. I mean, and also Panthers are going to be run heavy. That's true. Dave Canales joked about it. And their offensive line kicked a lot of butt last year. And that's what I mean, that's what they're going to be. I do like the McMillan with the Panthers thing like that makes a lot of sense. That's how you help out your young quarterback. But we're closing it out today.

Wrapping a bow on day one of the NFL draft. We'll be back tomorrow night for rounds two and three. Me, Matt, Charles, Jason Fitz, Charles Robinson, Jory Epstein. We'll all be there. And we'll also have a live show on Sunday to recap all this. Round one, rounds two and three.

rounds four, five, six, and seven, and on Drafted Free Agents from day three, but we'll just be recapping it, not doing it live. But we'll be doing that on Sunday at 3 p.m. Eastern. Make sure to check us out for rounds two and three today, as you're probably listening to this, on X,

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