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Hello and welcome to Football 301. I'm your host, Nate Tice. Mock Draft Monday. That's what we're doing today on Football 301. We are kicking off Draft Week. Matt Harmon and Charles McDonald are going to be joining me. And we're going to be alternating picks. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6. Going through the entire first round. Making our player selections of what we think they should do. Maybe some intel in there as well. But we think they should do for all 32 picks. First, we're going to be doing a draft week.

Let me introduce not a stranger to Mock Draft Mondays, but maybe not with the green background. He usually has a purple background when he does it. That is Mr. Reception Perception himself, Matt Harmon. How are you doing today, Matt?

Nate, I'm doing very well. I am looking forward to this exercise, but also a little intimidated because I believe you guys, you and Charles just filed, I don't know, mock draft version 60.0 at this point. You guys have done a bajillion at mock draft. I've done exactly 0.0. So this is my first mock draft of the season. So my first and only. You should be scared. So it should be great. Yeah, I'm looking forward to actually doing one here.

Just get receivers. Pick one through two. It'll be okay. You're with the veterans right now, Matt. You should be very, very scared. We've done so many mock drafts. People don't even believe it, man. So many scenarios. Alternating scenarios where we forget about our player and then we have to circle back and fix that scenario. Yeah, I know. Nice little Back to the Future Part 2 scenario for our mock drafts. But you heard his voice already. The other person joining for Mock Draft Monday is Mr. Vertz. Charles McDonald. How are you doing today, Chuck? I'm doing good, man. We're so close to the end of...

I can't wait. I'm excited to actually just know where these guys are actually going to play because I'm someone who personally enjoys post-draft analysis a little bit more once the speculation is done. But we're here. We're finally going to get to do the thing, the spectacle, which is always fun. So I'm excited. But, you know, I'm also ready to get past it too. I feel like I can mock positions that teams are going to take better than players.

Cause I'm like, you guys need this. You need this. I don't know what round you're going to take them in, but I know you need this, this, and this, and we'll go from there. So I'm with you, Chuck. It's a lot fun doing the post draft analysis on it. Maybe in real time when you're doing grades. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We'll see how that goes for sure on Thursday night. But it is funny to call it spectacle because I've written, one time she was like, she was like, I don't get the NFL, like why anyone watches the NFL draft? Like, couldn't you just like, the commissioner walks out on Friday with a press release and says, here are the 256 players drafted. And wouldn't that be the exact same? I was like,

Yes. Yes, it would be the exact same. But we're freaks about it. So we have to sit down and watch it. She's like, it's just a list of players. Can't you just give the final college football playoff rankings at the beginning of December? No. No.

We got to trot these out mid-season. We got to debate and talk about this. We have content to fill here. I know. It used to be back in the ballroom, this thing. Yeah, this thing used to be in the ballroom. Now we're doing it at stadiums. We're in Lambeau for the draft. No, but you heard Charles say that.

talking about Thursday, talking about that live show. We're going to be live. We're doing it from LA as the draft is in Green Bay. But yes, me, Charles, Matt, and Jason Fitz, plus other members of the Yahoo NFL staff will be live for round one on Thursday night and rounds two and three on Friday night.

Now is also a great time to download the Yahoo Sports app where you can watch those live shows plus all the other NFL draft content that we have on there. We have live activities on iOS so you can watch each of those draft picks directly through your lock screen. That's a little fun, almost like you ordered food and you can see when it's delivered. You can see what picks coming up.

But check out the full draft coverage, grades, plus watch our live shows Thursday and Friday inside the Yahoo Sports app. Download it today on the App Store or at yahoosports.com slash NFL draft. All right. Enough disclaimers about what's happening later this week. It will be fun. So make sure you guys check out that show. It's going to be a blast. We'll be there for every pick. But let's get into these picks. Let's get into the last fan fiction pick.

West, you know, fantasy booking, as they call it in wrestling, that we're going to do. Let's do the mock draft first round. To be clear, we're doing what we would do, not what we think will happen, but, you know, that might push some of these thoughts and ideas as we talk them out. We're going to alternate. Matt's going to go first, then me, then Charles, and then we're going to just keep rotating through. No snake drafts for this mock draft. We'll just roll right through. Pick one, though. That's Matt. Tennessee Titans.

What's kick us off? No, what's the sound that they make? I don't know if it's a copyrighted. Yeah, probably. We just got, we just got us blacklisted on this one. Sorry.

No, here at the first pick, no surprises. I'm not going to be cute here. What I would do is what will happen on Thursday night. I'm going to take Cam Ward, quarterback Miami for the Tennessee Titans. Look, I mean, I think we've all talked about Cam Ward to death at this point. It feels like we all accepted that this was going to be the pick probably like a month and a half, maybe two months ago at this stage.

you know, I don't really care where you would rank him in last year's quarterback class or anything like that. He's the best quarterback in this class. And it feels like as,

The process has gone on. Consensus has formed that he is quarterback one in this class with a healthy gap between him and two. And I would agree with that. I mean, he's not a perfect prospect, but he has all the traits, the off script skills and the script, the stuff in structure that you would want out of a quarterback to take number one overall. So congratulations, Tennessee. You got a quarterback here to root for.

on our little graphics that Madison Stone, our producers, put together for our YouTube show so that we have projected around for these names we're talking about. I just said first overall pick. Didn't say round one. Didn't say late round one. Just first overall pick. Yeah, this has been kind of in the cards, it seems, for a while. The Titans have been working the phones, and I think that's been confirmed basically by everybody, but I don't think they'll move off this pick because it's a one quarterback class. One of my bold takes was that...

My spicy takes is that only one quarterback will go in the first round. I don't know. I just don't.

I'm staying by that. I'm staying by that. We've seen some stuff come together. Charles, what do you think of that one? I think that's sensible, but then we saw six in the top 12 last year. I just wonder if they're just so thirsty. Someone actually asked me today, would you be surprised if Tyler Shuck was drafted on Thursday night? I guess it would depend on where. If he was picked 30, I don't

I don't know. I don't know. Just because of what we saw last year for me, I don't know if I'd be terribly surprised. I know. And it seems like no one's bored. There's no consensus in this class, which is a lot of fun, but especially at quarterback. And especially if you get off Cam Ward. Shoot, even a couple have players above Cam Ward, which I do not agree with, but they do. But yeah, so we'll see. I think day two is going to be a quarterback frenzy, and I'm curious how they kind of just unfold where they end up. All right. I got the next pick. Cleveland Browns.

This has kind of been in the cards, it feels like, as well, once Cam Ward kind of locked in. That is, I'm going to go with Travis Hunter, receiver slash cornerback. I think he's a corner first. That should moonlight as a receiver. However, the Browns have been really out there saying that we think of him as a receiver, and we're going to try and go both ways. They've really talked about him, gushed about him, which I get. He's a hell of a talent. We've talked about him plenty. We've talked about him on the receiver pod, talking about him on the corner pod, the DB pod. Both of them were gushing defensively.

with the praise of Travis Hunter. So I think no matter what, you just want the talent on your team. That's why you want to go with a guy like this, even if it's not perfect.

Like, shoot, maybe even look at your offensive line, Cleveland. But I think Hunter is just too talented of a player. So might as well just get some feel goods and we'll figure out the quarterback later. It's more sensible than what's going to happen on Thursday. You know, I just, I've ranted out before. I'm sick for him. I'm sick for us as football watching fans that we fall in love with this guy over the past three years. We've seen him do incredible Ironman, like Jim Thorpe feats.

of college football and he's going to go play with the Cleveland Browns. Come on, come on, man. Got it. What a buzzkill that's going to be for every Browns fan who watches our show second overall. We might, we don't throw to Charles first. Don't throw to Charles first for the reaction. One, one of the 32 fan bases is just clicking out for the evening.

You like my Jim Thorpe reference though, right? That was good. I did. I love the Jim Thorpe reference. I did. That was good. Matt, you've kind of compared Hunter as a receiver to Odell Beckham Jr., which would be kind of funny because the Browns made a move back in the day for Odell Beckham Jr. Browns legend Odell Beckham Jr., that really worked out well. Yeah, it worked out great. I wonder if Odell Beckham Sr. is still grinding tape.

So ready to post some clips about the quarterback, not getting the ball out on time. We'd get that part. Coach prime is going to coach prime is like having Travis Hunter and his adopted son. Is he going to be posting YouTube clips of, of, of, you know, insert Kenny picket or whatever here missing Travis Hunter on wide open routes. Maybe you never know at this point, but no. Yeah. I mean, I think he's a great receiver prospect. I get the argument that he's just going to, he's going to touch the ball. He's going to impact.

pack the game more. He's going to affect your team more as a wide receiver, but I truly believe he's going to try to play both ways. And I think the Browns will empower him to do that. And even if that is like taking more of a healthy diet as a wide receiver than it is as a corner, I mean, this is a team that just...

they need something, man. I mean, Charles, you and I said this on the wide receiver breakdown show. They got to do something to get this team energized at this point. And obviously taking, in my opinion, clearly run away the best prospect in the draft, regardless of where he ends up playing, I think is the right move for them.

Yeah, and I think if you're Andrew Berry and Kevin Stefanski, you're realistically looking at this like, I got to save my job. So I got to keep the best possible players here right now for every week. It's just a YC Miles Garrett extension. Probably why you're going to see them play Travis Hunter at two. Which, look, I think he's going to make them better. I just think when you look at their roster, you look at their financial situation, it just...

It feels like a luxury pick. They don't really have the facilities to afford right now. But, hey, this is America. You can do what you want. I thought it was free. I thought it was free to take a luxury pick. What? I thought it was America. I know, but... Charles, you are now on the clock with the New York Giants.

I think I had this pick when we did the podcast with Connor and Trevor. I took my boat down. I'm going to go in a different direction now, actually, this time. I'm going to take out Duel Carter here. Strictly just because

Wouldn't that be fun? Like, you have Dexter Lawrence, who is one of the three best, like, interior linemen in the game right now. You have Brian Burns, who's a very good edge rusher. And then it would push Kevin Thibodeau probably to that third edge role, which is probably a little more appropriate for him. And you kind of have, like, a true...

four-man front that can really get after people. And that would definitely help take some of the pressure off the secondary, which didn't play too well last year, and they're still trying to figure some things out. So just to get some more pressure up front and to keep it moving in that direction, I think probably a good pick for the Giants right here.

I've come around on this because it just, uh, also maybe it's just me picturing those old giants defensive lines when they had the NASCAR package. Now remember that talking point from 15 years ago? Anybody else remember that? Remember the NASCAR package? Remember that trend? Remember that trend? Quote unquote trend the teams are trying to copy. It was right before, uh, the Patriots had Aaron hand, Aaron hand as in Rob Gronkowski. And

that, that, that was a movement for a while too. That, that, that was a trend for a little bit. Uh, but no, uh, I, this is the talent. This is the player, best player for them. I did like when we did that, uh, with the stock exchange guys. Um, I liked where you're going, Charles, we're going like, Hey, offensive line. Have you guys looked at what you got? Um, but now going with maybe a needle moving pass rusher with burns. It's really cool. Um, Thibodeau is kind of a,

you know a limited player i i like him there's some things he does well but he does have limitations as a player so like maybe just get a guy that has a little bit more juice to him yeah i get this imagine that for though tibideau burns lawrence and carter that's pretty scary and that's a defense i'm still i'm gonna stay high on i was maybe a year a year early on them but i'm gonna stay high on that giants defense i think this could be a fun little needle mover for him uh

Matt, you now go a little bit east. You got the Patriots at pick number four.

Yeah, this is where obviously the draft drops off in terms of like the top prospects. So I kind of think the, I think the fourth overall pick is a little bit where we begin. It's more so at five, but I think we're officially in the wild West at this point. I'm going to go Armand Membu at this pick. I, because look, this is what I would do. Not what I think the teams would do. I actually think they're, if I had to guess right now, they're just going to take Will Campbell at four, but

I'm a coward, man. I would be a little worried about the length, even if I think he's going to be a good left tackle, Will Campbell, or at least somebody you try at left tackle and worse becomes a very good guard. Like I said, I like Campbell. I think you should start him at tackle and give him a shot there, and he's got all the skills to do it. You could say all the same things about Membo, but he's

I think more of an aggressive player, somebody that they're going to want to run the ball. I think he's going to be an asset as a movement guy out in space. So, yeah, give me give me Membo here. I like this. This is who Charles had going to the Giants and another mock draft. But I think the Patriots are going all line. No, it looks like Campbell. But Membo, I had these guys right next to each other on the big board. Charles, what do you think about this one?

Yeah, same. I think it's totally fine. Because I also think that Mbou is, to me, he can be like a Tristan Wirfs where you can play him left tackle feasibly. I don't really see why he couldn't do that in the NFL. Just how you watch him move and you see how he played. You see how he tests athletically. So I think this is a great pick. And also, I think, even if you think he's a right tackle only, if he could be that good for 10, 15 years, he's probably still worth a pick of four. Yeah.

Yeah. And they went and got Moses, Morgan Moses, their right tackle. Morgan Moses does not preclude you from taking a bamboo or something of that sort. And I'm with you is that he's a right tackle now, but I think he has the length that blesses him to kick over to the left side. Again, that's projection and theory and everything, but it's, yeah, I think he is tape is good enough to try it.

I think the Adam going Campbell, I think that's pretty much locked in, but they go with Campbell because of the kind of best five enabler and they're just like, whatever, we'll just get the guy. I also think Vrabel's probably a sucker for Campbell's personality, which makes a lot of sense. No, I like this pick a lot. They need Lyman. They need trenches. And I think to me,

Even with the defensive head coach and everything, I think with the quarterback they have, Drake May, you're trying to make his life easier. That's going to be your breadwinner for the next decade. So let's make sure that that's all shored up and make sure the confidence stays there because we don't want that to dip at all. So I think O-line, no matter what, whether it's Campbell or Membu, makes all the sense in the world. I'm up with the Jags. And I'm also, we're doing what we would do.

if this situation unfolded, I know the Ashton Gentry hype. I'm seeing it. I'm kind of buying into it as well. I think that does unfold that way. I'm going Will Campbell here though for the Jaguars because I think if Campbell was still there, this would actually be their pick. So Will Campbell for the Jags, I

I think he would start out a guard for him. But the thing is, again, you're getting their best five enabler. You are, no matter what, and no matter the makeup of that offensive line, I have liked Anton Harrison. I thought he was great as a rookie. I thought he dropped off last year. But still, their tackles are kind of solved.

but it's the interior of the offense line they're figuring out. And I think Campbell, no matter what, can drop in and be that, hey, no matter what, I'm going to start at guard. I don't think he'll start at center right away, but maybe we can work to it. He's on the field. Maybe we can kick him out to tackle as the years go along. So I'm going to go with Campbell here. I think also just makeup-wise and character-wise, I think the Jaguars are going for these types of players that really can kind of be locker room builders as they kind of

Come out of the balky, the balky Doug Peterson, everybody sucks era. Everybody's terrible. I'm the smartest guy. I'm the smartest guy in the room. Everybody else is stupid. We're getting out of that area. Let's get some positivity here in Jacksonville. So going with Campbell. Charles, am I a little crazy here? Is this a little too rich for Campbell if I'm slotting him inside a guard? No.

No, I don't think it's that crazy. I mean, because we see what the top of the market guards get paid. So if you think you can be that right away, then I don't think that that's such an indefensible pick, even though I'm sure people will probably turn their nose at you a little bit. But if he's that good and he can start for that long, then shoot. Good players are good players, man, at the end of the day. Right, right. Especially with real versatility.

That, that, that, that's why it doesn't feel like the draft sometimes is like where, where the most like weird positional dogma remains. I mean, cause, cause like Charles just made the point, like top of the line, Will Fry's made like a boatload of money, like this off season, like Will Fry's good player. But I mean, come on, like Will Campbell, if he's a guard, I think clearly out shoots that. And it just, again, it's weird that we get to the dress. You can't take a guard fits overall. I mean, but we'll pay some,

moderately decent starting player, a boatload of money for agency. Again, it just feels like once we get back to the draft, we're still a little too rigid with the way we think about things. And hey, if you're this, why I'm always offensive line heavy first, where it's like, hey, we have five guys grade the same way. Go with the offensive lineman. They're on the field every snap. They impact the game

every snap. You can't really hide an offensive lineman too many times throughout a game. So if we're trying to, Hey, if I'm tied with, Hey, Campbell Walker, Jente here. Okay. Who's on the field the most. Okay. Well, Walker is a tweener. I'm not sure where I'm going to put them. Jente's a running back. Who's going to take some valuable touches, but he'll be off the field as well. What about his longevity? All right, let's go with the offensive lineman because yeah, he's a guard right now, but he's playing 60 plus snaps a week and he's

the versatility. And again, it's not theory or like just guesses. Like he's shown that you can play tackle. So like that real versatility and real impact of the game is why I just stay high on them. So, um, I mean like Brandon Scherf reminded me a little bit of this, uh, when the,

commanders took him back in the day was that like, shoot, I'm like, that's 10 years ago. Uh, was that he was a bad, bad-ass tackle at Iowa. And they immediately put him at guard and no one bad. And I, he was, he was a needle moving guard, uh, for them. Zach Martin is a compare. Is that kind of like this too? Was a tackle with short arms, Notre, uh, Notre Dame. They bumped him in the guard Dallas did. They took him in the teens though. So again, you just, this type of draft class, uh,

I don't know, five isn't as rich as you would think in a normal draft class either. Charles, you got the next pick? You got the Las Vegas Raiders here at pick six. I hate how this has turned out. Because I don't want to take Jesse here. Because there's not a lot of what I want to do. That's what you want to do. Yeah. Shoot. I think we can go T-Mac here. McMillan. Yeah.

Look, I look at this Raiders offensive line. I would have loved for Bumbo or Campbell to get here. Those would have been like auto picks for me because you just look at where they are right now on the offensive line. Outside of Colton Miller, there's a whole lot of shakiness. To me, the crazy part about taking Ashton Gentry at six for them is defensively,

just because you had the worst one of the worst running games in nfl history last year doesn't mean that one running back one player can fix that for you right um so i think you kind of have to start up front and then build back out to the running back room so i would have loved to take a tackle here didn't have it

or one that I really love at six. So we're going to take Ted McMillan, give Dino Smith a number one target on the outside. And I think that this adds enough depth for their wide receiver room where you can feel better about where you are passing game-wise. You know, when you look at their passing game group, it's like, oh, Jacoby Myers is a nice guy, but if he's going to be like your leading target guy outside of Brock Bowers, we still have room to improve there. So we'll put McMillan in this room. You got McMillan, Jacoby Myers, Brock Bowers.

veteran quarterback and Dino Smith, and maybe that's enough for them to, to, to compete for a little bit more than they did last year in the AFC West. Trying to get the vibes a little bit better there. A little bit better. Hey, we're a football team again, guys. Hey, we got money now. It's great. We can actually pay for things. Matt, what would you think about McMillan with the Raiders in that fit?

Yeah, they desperately need an X receiver as bad as their running back room is on paper. I mean, their top two pass catchers are a tight end. I mean, Brock Bowers is a great, great player, but he's a tight end. And then Jacob Myers is one of the more underrated receivers in the league, but he's a slot

leaning guy who can also play flanker. It's like we cannot run Trey Tucker or whatever out there as our other starting perimeter receiver. And I think McMillan gives you and like to go to Myers, by the way, it's on the last year of his deal. I feel like

that is an underrated talking point when we're talking about the Las Vegas Raiders here. Like they just don't have much of a future at all at this wide receiver position. I think Gino Smith fits McMillan well stylistically. Like Nate, as we've talked about some of these deeper in-breaking routes for him, those are really some throws where Gino will stand

stare down the barrel and rifle that thing over the middle. So I think from that angle, this makes a lot of sense. And, you know, Chip Kelly's shown an ability to take a top, like his top receiver, whoever that is, and move them around the formation. I think that's also something you want to do with McMillan. So, yeah, I mean, this makes the offense better from the jump. And while I think, you know, McMillan in a normal draft maybe isn't a guy I'd want to take at the sixth overall pick in a draft like this where there's three top guys and then that's kind of it.

I'm comfortable taking him in this spot. Yeah, this range, comfortable with, like you said, with this class. I'm trying to figure out what the Raiders are going to go because they've got a lot of genty smoke and now we're getting a lot of

uh, um, and both smoke, uh, I'm about smoke. So, but that's the thing. I'm sorry. And then that's the thing is that he's gone in our exercise. So it's kind of, this is what it'd be. This would probably be worst case for them. I was, they wanted to trade back, you know, something, unless they wanted to go gentee, because like you guys say, I,

It's also a deep running back class. I'd much rather for the Raiders to go line or trenches and then get the back on day two, which you know they will. They're going to address that position in some way, shape, or form. No, but like you said, with this passing game, Geno's going to give him a shot. I love McMillan, as we've talked about plenty on this pod. But he actually compliments Bowers really well because Bowers is a horizontal guy and a yak guy and a speed guy. And then McMillan is a more vertical intermediate guy.

guy vertical not just taking the top off the defense but that more of that 15 to 20 yard range that he can really operate in so I actually like this a little bit more than than maybe I would have thought I would maybe want them to go trenches but I think just how this breaks this makes a little bit of sense to me so Matt you got the Jets next at pick number seven

God, this is a tough spot for the Jets because I think they'd love to have Armand Membo be here. I'm with you, Nate, that I feel like we've just heard so much buzz about Genting to Jacksonville and then it feels like the Raiders will go Membo at six. And then I think the Jets could realistically find themselves in this scenario and be

you know, again, there's a, there's a lot of different ways we could, we could go here. I think they could go something completely off the board. Um, maybe take like a defensive back here, like a Johnny Baron. Um, I'm not going to go that direction. Uh, so for the producers, I'm not, although I, I did give it some thought. Um, I did give it some thought. I'm scrolling a little bit.

Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. Let's do it. John A. Barron here. I actually, cause I actually think this is, I think this is gonna, I think there's, there's a chance they could go something crazy here. I don't really know if I see Mason Graham as a fit in this defense and kind of what some of what they want to do there. And like, let's be clear, they're blending multiple styles here. Cause like Aaron Glenn and Steve, like Steve Wilkes is going to call the plays there, even though Aaron Glenn will be the talking point of this.

I think Baron gives them kind of an immediate guy in the middle of that defense to play slot corner. I think he's compliments the group they have really well. And like, you know, he's often compared to Brian branch and Aaron Glenn just had a success with that type of player. So I do feel like people are going to like Baron maybe more than sort of the outside consensus. So give me Baron here just to, just to do something a little different. Yeah. I think he has fans in a league. There's,

The thing with him with Baron is like, I like him. I do like him. I see the Branch comparisons. It's like, Branch's film was better though. And he was younger. And I know he had injury stuff, which he still does. But that was like that. That's that play style. You know, it's a slot safety type. But the thing is...

some teams love that type. Like they love that type of player on their team. The Jets are kind of a wild card, like tight end might be an answer here or line. Like they go a lot of directions. I think, yeah, that makes sense. So I like Baron here and especially some of that slot stuff. I could see Aaron Glenn liking as well. That's a great call though, with the branch comparison with Glenn and everything. And that's where you end up being. Charles, any thoughts on Baron or anything with the Jets? Maybe another spot that maybe we could look at.

I would have said, let's put Mason Graham, Exequin Williams, and just wreck him. Have some fun. Yeah, because I do think one thing that happened last year, or what happened over the past two years, they did lose some talent off that interior. I think you saw that. They were just really thin with the depth. I don't know. It just seemed like that would have been a pretty good pairing here. But Jaday Barron, he's...

I feel like you feel good about him at least being a quality slot at the very worst. I think maybe some of the testing you saw this offseason maybe gives a little more upside than we would have thought back in the fall. So I don't hate it, but I think I would have gone defensive tackle here just to Mason Graham and Sam. Expectations are low, so let's just stack players here. Yeah.

I really, I was looking, I really want to make a trade here because I just like saw that if this unfolded like this, what Sean Payton start calling. So I would put an asterisk maybe here, like that may be a trade up from, from the Broncos here to pick eight to the Panthers who have already, you know, Morgan, Dan Morgan's already said, yeah, yeah, we'd be open to train down, you know?

genti here i think they would shoot up maybe get that call but uh no trade so with no trade and with the panthers standing pat i think they just go mason graham here and i think they just take the pick that's sitting right in front of them uh they could go anywhere on defense it would make sense to me they go edge i think this will take two seconds

Yeah, they go linebacker, they go DB, and I'll be like, yep, anywhere on defense, let's go with Graham. I think a defensive tackle here. They signed Bobby Brown. He's a nose tackle. They have Derek Brown already there, hopefully coming healthy. But if you've got Mason Graham and Derek Brown on your interior with complementary skill sets too, they actually make a lot of sense together. You just brought Quinn and Williams. That's another one that makes sense. But these two actually make sense. You want the brawler, you want the gap shooter. That's perfect. So going with a guy that I think is a tangible good player,

and the Panthers need that on defense right now. So Mason Graham to the Panthers.

You like this one, Charles? You think this one makes sense? Yeah. Two seconds. Two seconds. They have nobody still. Okay, not nobody. Not nobody. That's a little harsh. But they had nobody last year on their defense in general. So I just think when you're that far away from still having the defense that you hope to have moving forward, just –

Take whatever is the best defensive player on the board. And I think that that's Mason Graham. It literally doesn't matter what position. Whoever is the best defensive player on the board, just take him. He would move him.

And that's kind of where I came to. It was like, there's Jalen Walker, but okay, he's a tweener. Okay, he kind of makes some sense in that defense, but he's kind of a tweener. Okay, maybe not him. All right. Mike L. Williams. All right, he's got questions about his pass rush upside. He looks like more of a project, more of a run defender. Okay, are we going to take that eight? Okay, let's keep going. Mike Green.

Okay. All right. But is this a little rich for Mike Green? Pick eight. Shamar Stewart. Okay. That's a project that doesn't have a lot of production. You know, like they all have a little bit more questions and Graham is not a perfect prospect. None of them are. Yada, yada. But I do think that maybe he's an easier one to understand to take your eight. Not as many bigger blemishes as maybe some of the other guys on the defensive line have. Charles, now up. Pick nine. We're staying in the NFC South. You have the Saints. You cannot sabotage them.

You cannot. I know this is what you would do. What would Charles do here? He's taking a kicker. Who's the highest kicker on the board here? There's no Jankowski pick here. Well, it's funny because my sabotage pick would be Jackson Dart. I think they are the Dart team, but I think it's round two. I think that's where he dropped out of Green Bay. We're in tea leaves there, but yeah, we're ready to go there.

I think here, I don't know if he's going to end up going this high by the time drafts comes, but I'm going to take Derek Harmon here. Love it. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

They, they, they, the saints, like they, they, they need to get a little bit, uh, younger slash better on the defensive line. Um, yeah, they drafted Brian Brzee, Brzee, who's all right. Um,

They just also acquired Devon Godshow, which I think shows that, oh, we still are looking for another credible body up there. So I love Harmon. I think he profiles really well. He's just kind of one of those 33 techniques that plays the run and pass pretty well. Maybe not like a 10-sack guy, but someone who can get consistent pressure on the quarterback while also affecting the run. So we're going to take him here because...

I like the high floor when you're the Saints and you're kind of looking at just trying to build some stability again. He seems like a pretty safe guy. Yeah, I like this pick. I like Harmon a lot. Matt, with the Saints, were there any other spots that you maybe had looked at for them or just like kind of an outsider's thing? Do you think receiver is a spot here that they can maybe go or another pass catcher in some way, shape, or form or just like offense?

I think McMillan, if he was here would be in strong consideration. Cause I know they like him. And I think he kind of completes that receiver room because they don't have like a true big body on the boundary. Otherwise, like,

I think they could do something weird and take Ashton Gentry, which, you know, by the way, would just, just, I mean, destroy like every dynasty bros dreams because, you know, then he'd be like one of the best running back prospects in a minute would be in a backfield split with Alvin Kamara and his rookie year. Probably nobody really wants that, including Alvin Kamara. Yeah. With, with maybe,

whoever the hell in round two. So I do think there, there is McMillan's on the board. I think they'll consider him at nine, but no, I like this pick a lot. And I'm with Charles and I like Derek Harmon too. I think he's a guy that I feel like I don't see often mocked in the top 10, but I think has in this class, like the skillset to be somebody that is super disruptive, both in the run and pass phase. So I think for, I'd actually kind of, there's a couple of defense. I'd love to see him a little bit more,

more with the saints where i was then the saints where i was hoping to kind of take him in the in the in the teens here but uh i do like him going here at nine yeah we're uh i really like harman he ended up 15th on my board charles has him at 23rd we're we've been bullish on him uh and just because what you guys are speaking of is that he fits like everywhere to me because he can do so much

Like he, he not saying that he's all world talent. That's why he's scheme proof. It's just that he has versatility, which is not, you don't see that a lot from an interior defense alignment. That's this big. And he moves well, he plays the run. Well, he plays the past. Well, um, you know, you figure out, is he a jack of all trades or is he actually really good at those? That's what, you know, that's where you try to determine everything. But I like him. I just, I just see him fitting in so many places. I see him having a role.

having a role in so many places and he has the athleticism and does all the stuff that gives you upside. That's why you take a guy top 10. So, yeah, I mean, this is, there's no place in the draft that you can go, I mean, maybe not top five, but anywhere past the top five, I'm like, yeah, Harmon makes sense because I think his tape and his athleticism is that good. So, I'm all for this for Harmon and Saints kind of need it.

And Brandon Staley's defense is kind of wonky too, you know, so it actually makes sense with that kind of defense. It's kind of weird to say Harmon while I'm talking to Matt Harmon as well. And speaking, going from Derek Harmon to Matt Harmon, Harmon, you're next on the clock with the Chicago Bears. This will be our last pick before the break. What are the Bears going to do? Another interesting team to me because they could go in a lot of directions. It makes sense, but kind of seems ready-made.

Yeah. We're going to take Ashton Gentry here. I don't think he actually, I don't, I don't think he gets to 10. I don't think he gets to 10 on Thursday night. I'm with you, Nate, that like, if he starts falling past the Raiders, I do think somebody's calling and like, yes, God, let it be. Let it be the Broncos. I've been trying to manifest Ashton Gentry to the Broncos since I think before the regular season ended. Um,

Because that ecosystem is ready. Yeah, I think I was talking about it in December. That ecosystem is ready to be elevated by a running back. I think that this, we could probably say that that's the case for Chicago. We're going off no proof of concept in terms of like,

yeah, is this going to be a good offensive ecosystem? Well, every off season we talked ourselves into the bears in some way, shape or form. So we're doing it again this year. But I actually think there's a great proof of cons or just a great proof of concept that Ben Johnson has it. And I think, you know, again, Gentry is a guy that's just going to give your offense an immediate identity, take some pressure off of the passing game. I don't love the idea of taking a tight end here. I'll just say that like it, then 10th overall, the,

The whole point to me, besides the fact that, you know, the offensive system was just kind of whacked out last year in Chicago, is that I think they, in a weird way, had way too many players to prioritize getting the football to. And I think if we add a tight end in the mix here, it's not quite as, you know, hey, I'm Keenan Allen. I'm a former Pro Bowl receiver. Like, I need my targets. If it's like Tyler Warren and we're doing some designer plays and stuff like that for him. But I think I want to focus on in the passing game.

the two guys that we have here that we took ninth overall and gave a hundred, I think a hundred million dollars to and DJ more either way, a bunch of money at the wide receiver position. So in the running game, let's get a guy who can really be the identity of this offense. Cause obviously Deandre Swift is not that. So I don't think Gentry makes it to 10, but if he does, I think the bears would turn to the card. Gerald Everett's done a number on you. Hasn't he?

I mean, enough. Unbelievable. Did he sign somewhere this offseason? I think he's still with the Bears. I thought he got... I thought him... Yeah.

I was going to say, I thought, I thought him and Shane Waldron were showing the door together basically. So no, I don't think, I don't think he's on it. No, he's not. He's not. Yeah. We, we figured out, but that's a great call was having so many mouths to feed though. And not in a sense of like, Oh, let's get this guy going. Let's get this gadget guy going. Let's get this going. It was like, all right, there's no flow. Everybody's getting one, two touches that are heavily designed. Uh,

I think Johnson loves Jendi. I think that's been out there anyways. And I think that there's been the like, oh, it could be the DeAndre or it could be the David Montgomery, Jameer Gibbs, but just in Chicago and he'll do with DeAndre Swift.

I don't know if there'll be much splitting going on if Jente's here. I think it would be Jente's backfield with maybe a dash of Roshon Johnson more than you see Swift because Swift still can't pass protect. So, and I think Ben Johnson knows that. But I mean, I would love this. I think the Bears are trying to beef up the offensive line too. They're another team that's like,

I think of Will Campbell was there. They sprint up and take him. You know, I think that's another interesting name for them. I know they invested in the offensive line, but man, again, best five enabler and he could do that. I have looked at maybe tight in there, but I agree with you. That's like, I don't know. That feels a little too rich. Derek Harmon's been a name. I like putting there to the bears, maybe getting some defensive tackle juice.

But, Charles, what do you think about Gentese to the Bears? Are you excited about that offense? You really put them in your top ten right away? Yeah, I mean, something tragic is going to happen. You know, maybe Jonah Jackson's probably not as good as you thought he was. Or maybe you overshot where you thought Drew Dolan was. Something's not going to be quite right. Because, I mean, when you put on the Bears uniform, your offense...

You lose like minus 10 on all your offensive stats. So I think that this is going to be good for the Bears. Probably not good enough because that's just kind of how it goes for them. But I do think the stabilizing presence at running back would be a pretty good thing for this offense. We've seen what a Ben Johnson offense looks like when he has

It's kind of like a bell cow back. He feels can run between tackles. So the vision is already there. You can see it. It just depends on if these guys that they have acquired actually do it, which after last year, I don't know. I'm going to be a little bit more trapped with my prediction for the Bears this year. My Bears things. I know. I'm staying agnostic on them.

Just until I see it. I'm excited. Get on the field and do it. I am bullish on them more than I was even last year, but I'm still just like, no, I'm just not getting ahead of myself. Do like that they're trying to shore up the offensive line for their

that, you know, sub-6-2 quarterback that some compared to Drew Brees. Maybe me. Maybe you get that interior offensive line. Maybe you get Drew Brees, they're Reggie Bush. You know, get your ass in Jente. Well, maybe a better career than Reggie Bush, but, you know, you guys get what I mean. We're going to take our first break, though, and we're going to come back with the next 10 picks for... New Balance is redefining football cleats with innovation and best-in-class craftsmanship. The Prodigy.

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Going into the NFL draft. I'm up. Got the 49ers. Derek Harmon has been one of my kind of more favorite spots here. Guys here. And then now he is gone. Actually, I'm going to go with another guy. Maybe I'm a little higher on him. But I just like the complimentary skill set that he would have with Nick Bosa. I'm going to go with Mikel Williams. Edge, Georgia.

And this is a guy I might have, you know, my, I wonder Mike green, a spot higher on my big board. There's offensive line is another spot I'm looking at here. Maybe Kelvin banks is a guy I think we might know. We have bears, but Kelvin banks is another name here. Josh Connolly is a guy I'm high on as well, but,

I'm going to go with Mikel Williams. Just because he's young, I think that he has the upside to be one of the best run defenders in the league. I mean, just period. Not just rookies or anything, but that upside throughout his career to be a plus-plus run defender. I think he'll come into the league as a good run defender. I don't think...

I think his sack ability, you know, ability to get after the passer is still developing, but the guy doesn't have bad plays. He works hard. He plays hard. You can tell he has a good feel for the game. I think he's versatile. He can kick inside on pass rush snaps, which I think that's what the 49ers love to do. If you're picturing like he would be used almost like Eric Armstead was used for the 49ers. That's all I'm envisioning Mike L. Williams for them. And I think they've needed that type of body type. And I think that's been what's missing for them. Bosa,

great against the rush. Of course, one of the best pass rushers in the game can be kind of boom bust against the run. Now it's getting edge. That's basically the opposite. Get the guy that's great against the run. That's kind of boom bust against the pass. I like that. I just think that makes Mike Cal's not for everybody, but he makes a lot of sense for me for the 49ers. And I just, one of those that those team player,

pairings that I really like. Charles, we've had kind of a mix of guys going to the 49ers. Any other names maybe here that crop up, maybe offensive line or something?

Yeah, I think Connerly here makes sense from Oregon. I like Mike Hill a lot. And I think this works because he's a guy that I really like. He's like a true 4-3 defensive end. Like hand in dirt every play, if we can keep it that way. And I think that across from Nick Bosa, they can play off each other pretty well. And they need a...

another young guy to develop along the defensive line because I think they've kind of let things get away from them a little bit over the past couple years by having guys get older and maybe not be able to replace them with guys that they've drafted all the time. So here's another shot at a round one edge, which hopefully will get their defense moving back towards the unit that it was a few years ago.

They're, yeah, so they're current starting four right now on defense lines. Nick Bosa, then a defense tackle, they have Jordan Elliott and Evan Anderson, and then the other defense end, they have Yotur Grosmatos. So, okay. Okay.

Yeah. Every time I look at them, I'm like, they signed somebody, right? They signed somebody, right? Okay. Yeah. Drake Jackson. No, I mean, they've had him. Oh, shoot. Oh, shoot. This is what you want? You got to take a beef with the line around one. You have to basically. Right? And then you look at, you know, the corner situation isn't all that. Offense line could shore some things up. Yeah. John Lynch, what the hell, man?

What would you be up to? Things to get away from. Luckily, when you pay your quarterback, it gets a lot easier. That's why I heard. I heard it gets a lot easier. Stop letting the coach burn a third rounder on a running back every other year. I mean, they've got two third rounders this year. So get ready. We're going to get one.

Now I'm actually looking at the 49ers offseason. I'm like, whoa. They didn't really do all that much. No, it's a reset. It's more of a revamp than I think people realize. Yeah. They know that too. And they know they're in a whole new world. But it's, yeah, it's good. Yeah. They need to eat some veggies for the next year. Taking their medicine for a year.

Yeah, that's kind of what they do. But it'll be fun. I'm curious how they go about it. This draft should be really interesting for them. Charles, you're up next. You have the Cowboys, who have been kind of broadcasting who they're going to take here. But you can go any which way you want. Yeah. Uh...

Jinty would have been fun. Jinty would have been very fun. I think here, you know what? We're going to do a Jerry special episode.

take maybe a little bit of a risk on a player who's been a who's been a peg pretty highly on in the past but now that's a little bit we're gonna take will johnson here and uh bet that he can get back to his 2023 form of being one of the best quarterbacks in the world uh and i

hope that Michael Parsons and the rage of, uh, infinite fury that he has can drag us back to being a competent defense. Like it did in the back half of last season. Uh, I, I, I just really like, uh, I was just thinking about it. I kind of liked the fit with, uh, uh,

with Trevon Diggs or even giving you some cushion if Trevon Diggs is a guy you want to move on from in the near future. And obviously, whenever you have a pass rusher like Micah Parsons, I don't think it's a bad idea to have more players who can play off of him. And if Will Johnson can get back to the 20-23 form, then you have one of the best pass rushers

in NFL history paired with a top flight cornerback, which always gives you a high resilience defense. So maybe I don't know if I've seen too many people taking a cornerback here for the Cowboys, but I'm just going to take a bet on the upside and take Wodowski here.

you're, you're rectifying the Ezekiel Elliott over Jalen Ramsey pick 10 years later. That's that, that's kind of what you do. I know. I think a corner like Johnson benefits from a pass rush that Parsons provides because Johnson reads the game so well and he can, you know, he doesn't, his, his recovery abilities is big knock, but it's the thing is if he's a guy that can game quarterbacks, watch the USC game this past year, uh,

So now you've got a pass rush heating up the quarterback. The quarterback has to get the ball out in two seconds. Boom. Gamer corners are able to take advantage of it. Diggs was the guy that took advantage of it. Deron Bland is taking advantage of it. It's just those guys and those defense. So if they win offense here, receiver, Matt, do you really just picture them taking Golden here? That kind of seems like their guy. What would you think about that fit? If McMillan is off the board, obviously, and they go Golden, what do you think about the Golden fit with the Cowboys offense?

I will just say that I actually kind of like, I have some questions about Will Johnson overall. And I hope you've noticed Nate, that I did this whole thing with Jadae Barron, just to get like one of my predictions, correct about the draft, because in saying that one defensive back is going to go ahead of Will Johnson from the spicy predictions episode. That's what this was all about here. Yeah.

I can get to mine. Correct. Exactly. But yeah, for Will Johnson, I actually kind of think this fits better than going receiver here because I feel like every Cowboys fan has talked themselves into like we're going offense at 12 and we're going to go like

wide receiver running back in the first two rounds. But yeah, Charles laid it out. Like, Jiggs is a guy that you might, like, move on from here pretty soon. Like, he has not stayed on the field. He might not even play at the start of this season. He just has surgery. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, like, DB is a huge...

huge need for this team as much as like wide receiver two or running back is. So I definitely think that this makes more sense to me than going golden at 12. And I, I, if they go golden, that's fine with me. I do think he fits really well with what they're going to want to do. And he compliments CD lamb. Well, I think I can, I can,

if we have to talk through that pick on Thursday night, I can definitely talk through that pick and understand it. But I think Johnson here and then a wide receiver in the second round, you could find somebody that I'd probably have in the same tier as Golden. I don't dislike Golden. I just think there are a lot of guys available in the second round that I really, really like.

That's kind of how I've been. It's like, I'd much rather them take one on day two than at 12. I mean, they can go trenches. Like they go D and D tackle off as a line. I've been, I've been like, yeah, that's where you should go. Opposed to a receiver. I do think they need a number two receiver. I think everyone's in agreement on that and they need speed in their receiver room, but it's like, I don't know, 12 for golden's a little rich to me.

as opposed to late first or early second. I like this pick, Charles. Like you said, not a lot of people have gone corner for them because I think everyone's been genty, running back, or receiver, which was McMillan or Golden. Even I've fallen into that. It's a good thing to look at. I thought they foul or start for them at edge.

you know, Lawrence is gone, you know, like Mike Green's there. Mike Green and Micah Parsons would make a lot of magic together. You know, maybe get that edge group going. Matt, you have the Miami dolphins that pick 13. Let's hear what you got. Yeah.

I have had this one earmarked since I figured out I was going to have the 13th pick here. We're going Josh Connerly at the 13th overall pick here. I think he has the fluidity, the movement skills, the athleticism to fit in this zone heavy run scheme and the

has anybody seen their offensive line depth chart for, I don't know, like the last two years, it's so bad. So, I mean like, yeah, I mean the last month is getting worse. It's, it's only getting worse. So, um, yeah, I think Josh Connerly 21 years old, he's coming off the best football of his collegiate career at the end of last season. Like you want to say that this is a guy who was on the upswing. You can talk me into that. Absolutely. So, um, I, I,

I love this pick for Miami here, and I hope this is what they do at the 13th pick on Thursday night.

Yeah, they've kind of been looking a little DB, it seems like. You know, rumored some safeties and stuff. I'd much prefer them going offensive line. Eat your steak. Eat your beef, Shanahan, guys. Draft Lyman. You need talent up there to survive. Patrick Paul is slated to be left tackle right now. I actually like Patrick Paul when he had to play last year. I liked him coming out of college. He's got so much length and everything, so he can maybe stick it there, but

Austin Jackson and Liam Heisenberg at guard. Neither of those guys. Yeah, neither of those guys am I going like, yeah, you can't take a guy because those guys have to play. No, no, no. Connerly is much better than that. So I really like this pick, Matt. I think we're all high on Connerly too as a collective as well. And I'm including my dad on that. So yeah, Connerly Dolphins. What were you going to say, Chuck?

I like this pick because it keeps Patrick Paul at right tackle too. He gets to stay there. Conley can play left tackle. But when Teron Armstead retires, you're looking at

I'm sorry, you just can't have those guys starting on your offensive line. No. If you want to be serious. So you have to draft them here, I think. I think they're at a spot, honestly, where they have to take an offensive tackle. I don't really think any other spot makes sense. And you're still probably going to get a good guy, too. So just like you said, eat your steak, eat your veggies. It's going to be fine. It's going to be better for you in the long run.

They're set and they're in the perfect spot to take one of these guys, whether it's Connerly or Banks or something like that. This is exactly where you might not get those top two guys, but you're going to get your pick of the litter of the next group, which hopefully they're doing their homework on. All right, I get the next pick. God dang it, because I wanted to go corner for the Colts and I wanted to go Will Johnson for the Colts. So I have the Colts at pick 14. God, am I defaulting to what everyone's doing and giving them a corner? Don't do it. Don't do it.

don't do it. No, this is what we will do. Don't do it. Don't do it. You're right. You're right. You're right. This is what we will do. You know what they really, really, really need. I think is an interior offensive lineman, but man, they've invested so much in that. I do want to go corner. It's a little rich for that. This is tough.

Cause I was going to go Calvin banks here. Let me just talk this out real quick. Our producers love this. I was going to go Calvin banks here and just go off. It's a line guard and everything, but it's like, they've already invested a lot in those interior guys. And I know, I know who likes to protect their draft picks. That's Chris Ballard. Screw it. Sorry, Matt. I'm doing it. We're going tight end Colson Loveland, Michigan.

Colts just because, you know, cause why not? I do like him. I don't actually really love this fit. Yeah.

I actually like him with better other spots. I'm ruining it for myself. No, but I really like Colson Loveland because I think he's a true, true wide tight end that actually can split out and beat corners and safeties as a receiver can play in the slot. I just really like it. I think that too is that that real potential as an inline guy doesn't have to be hidden on a lot of RPOs. I think Steichen,

with the Patriots or Patriots with the Eagles. And then the Colts, he's really used a lot of, was very RPO heavy. Let's keep Dallas Gardner out of the blocking here. Okay. Now we have undersized tight ends, you know, we had a Granson. Okay. We got to keep him out of blocking. Now we get a guy that can actually legit do these things. And now we can add to our run game. Uh, top being that underneath receiver. I get where you're going with this, Matt. Uh,

They have invested so much receiver. They have so many miles to feed. They already have a slot receiver that kind of overlaps with this, with Josh Downs. They already have Pittman. They already have Alec Pierce. They have AD Mitchell. They're trying to get snaps. But I think this is just one of these things they've talked themselves into. I like the player a lot.

I really do. And I just can see this maybe happening. So I'll go with Colson Loveland. Maybe it's just a lack of imagination on my part. Where would you go here, Matt? Will Johnson getting selected really screwed me up here. Because I was like, Siobhan Ravel at pick 14? Siobhan, that's just a little early for him. So where would you go, Matt?

I'm not responsible for telling you what I would do. I'm just responsible. I want to hear it. I understand, man. Like you, you're, you're worried about him being hidden in the scheme or I'll tell you, he's going to be hidden in the stat sheet. Cause Danny Dimes is not getting into football. So you don't got to worry about that. Yeah, no, I would just take it like another edge rusher here. Like this, like at this point, you just,

Jalen Walker's fallen this far. Like I would go that direction. Like they, they could still use the pass rush help. I know he's probably done. The problem is Ballard is such a weird drafter. Cause he's so traits heavy, but that, that's another reason why with the tight ends, like is Ballard taking one of these two, two tight ends who didn't test in, in the, in the off season. I don't know. I mean, that's just, again, that's a big part of his draft philosophy. So I would, I would go edge rusher here. If I was, if I was in the app, you're really, you're really bad. You're so mad. Yeah.

They dropped layout to lots of last year, you know, already give up on him. Could he pay? I mean, give him someone to run with. True. True. I know. I know. Actually, yeah. Edge rush. Mike Green would be a good call here too. That's another one. Or Shamar Stewart, because fricking bad.

Bauer loves the traits and everything as well. So yeah, those picks as well. So that was my first kind of like shrug of the shoulder pick I have right here with Colson Loveland. And I just ruined it because I like him fitting on a lot of other teams, but it's off of me off of the Loveland pick Charles.

You have the Falcons. Did we plan this? Was this you, Stone? All right. You got the Falcons. What do you got? Pick 15. Gee, who's still there? What do they need? Yeah, there we go. New pass rush. My green rush passer. There we go. That's it. I think that was my write-up in the mock draft, too. Yeah.

because I think we had Mike Green going there too. And I just said, they need sacks. Mike Green gets after the passer. Done. You have 17 and a half sacks last year. They need sacks. Let's do it. True pass rusher, all that. I don't think the character stuff they're worried about. I don't think anyone is. So yeah, Mike Green, I like this pick. Matt, any thoughts? The Falcons want to go receiver or running back or tight end again? No.

Nope, nope, nope. All defensive draft. That's what's been coming for the Falcons. Oh, yeah, that's right. That was your today. Yeah, correct. Matt's manifesting all these. Yeah, 17 sacks last year, as you see on the screen. Good player. Yeah, let's go to the Cardinals, Matt. They're a fun team. They could do some interesting things on this draft. I'm really curious, actually, where they end up selecting because a lot of them make sense. But where would you go for the Arizona Cardinals? Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, there's a lot of ways I can, I can kind of talk this out here and, you know, I think an edge rusher would make sense. There's still a couple on the board here. There's a couple, like a guy like Walker is a bit of a, you know, fungible piece that I think would be interesting in this defense. Walter Nolan is like a interior disruptor could be really fun, but I've been a big Jihad Campbell guy, the entire draft process since the combine, that's the card I would turn in here at 16. You know, again, he's somebody who,

can give you versatility as a blitzer. He's somebody who I think can develop as a past coverage player in the middle of your defense, but it's just a tone setter. I think this defense has some interesting pieces, and I think the defense from a structure and conceptual standpoint has some interesting ideas. You've got hopefully a guy here that can turn some of those ideas into a reality on the field a little bit more often than they have so far in the Gannon era. So yeah, this is the guy I would pick here.

Campbell, one of our favorite players, Chuck. We talked about him a ton. I think everyone really likes Campbell. What do you think about him with the Cardinals? Or maybe I should say, how do you see him getting used in that defense too? Because I think it's a fun defense, but why would he be highlighted there, I should say. I think J.I. Campbell makes a whole lot of sense in this defense just because they're

Did a whole lot of everything on defense last year, just trying to figure out what works for them in the long run. So having a linebacker that can do a little bit of everything, even if, like Matt said, he has room to grow as a covered player, it makes a whole lot of sense. So just getting tougher, getting faster, you know, give me a little bit more aggressive versus a blitz, and Campbell can do all those things. All right, I am up next. Oof.

This is the Bengals at pick 17. No matter what, I'm looking at a defensive line here. Guard, maybe I'm looking at a little bit, you know, like Kelvin Banks or something like that, but I'm going defensive line here, and I'm deciding between Shamar Stewart at edge and Walter Nolan from Ole Miss. No matter what, we're drafting a toolsy project for the Bengals here. We're going for a tilt in the shoulder back and swinging away. I'm going to go, God, I just think they need a defensive tackle.

You know what? Not going Walter Nolan. I'm going Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle, Michigan. That's because I prefer him a little bit over Nolan. And this is what we would do. Not what I think the league is going to do. And I'm going to go with Kenneth Grant for them. Yes, they re-signed BJ Hill. Yes, they drafted Chris Jenkins last year. Yes, they signed TJ Slayton. None of those guys preclude you from drafting a Kenneth Grant because I just think

He has the long-term upside to just not only be a plugger and really help the run game. We got to remember, this run defense was simply atrocious last year, and it was a problem because of the whole entire defensive front, the linebacker play, and the safeties. It was the whole spine of the defense. I think the Bengals have to shore up the spine. Yes, you signed Slayton.

But Slayton, again, is more of just kind of like, hey, we need a starter there. We need to eat some snap stuff. So if you get Grant, who I think has that plugger ability, but also has more to him, I think that's why I'm bullish on him. I think Charles is very bullish on him. That's been one of his guys throughout this process is that because he has some stuff where it's like he could be a six plus sack guy.

from the inside yeah it'd be crazy and that's a high high upside thing but again he can contribute against the pass can be disruptive as long as being the plugger and holding up against blocks and everything and i think the bangles desperately need that more than anything they just need a guy that can eat blocks so they can be fast and everybody else can be unlocked a little bit uh all right charles the seattle seahawks are now on the clock pick 18 who are you going for them and remember

Stone is listening intently to this. Oh, boy. Here at 18. Oh. We'll go with Gray. I've heard his name pronounced so many different times. Zabel. Is it Gray Zabel? Zabel. Yep, it's Zabel. From North Dakota State. So I think this is kind of a perfect fit because maybe the one position you're

You don't see Gray Sabell playing as an offensive line in the NFL's left tackle, which is like the one spot the Seahawks don't need. So I think you just draft him and figure it out in camp what the best spot is for him and the best spot for your team, which is probably a good fit for where Seattle is right now. Just kind of a lineman that fits well.

whatever you're trying to do here, because you already have left tackles figured out. Now he gives you versatility to figure out the other four spots. Yeah, it's Zabel. I was talking with my dad and I actually, because I looked at him as a center. It was on one spot he hasn't played, but I was like, oh, well, he looks like a center to me.

And my dad kind of have a nice little kind of plan for him just talking about, well, he hasn't had game reps there. This is how I would do it right now. The Seahawks have a center, although, although what teamie who, uh, if you ever hear me know the name, that's how, you know, I like them. So although what team he stepped in last year in the second half of the season and really did a nice job, not a true needle moving center, but a fine starter at center better than what they had.

And what I like, if Zabell were to go there, yes, he's instantly slotted at one of the guard spots. We'll see what happens with Christian Haynes. We'll figure out the rest. But instantly slots at one of the guard spots. But now, if Oluwatimi kind of flatlines, a better guard presents himself down the road a year or two from now.

Again, just like the same argument with Campbell, Zabell is a best five enabler. Maybe a best four enabler if you're not considering left tackle or maybe best three enabler if you're just saying the interior. But it's the same argument Graham Barton was for me. I like Barton better last year. Same argument, though, that this guy is...

yeah, we can keep him in the guard, bump him to center, or at some way, shape, or form, he's going to start in that interior three and make sure we get our best guys out there and maybe be a needle mover at that point, too. It's not like he's just okay at those spots, too. So, like Zabell a lot, I've been kind of

flirting with them, taking a tight end for a few months now. So that's one I've manifested a little bit for there. Maybe just because I want a prediction right back from January when everyone laughed at me. So maybe I'm spiteful. But Matt, you're up next with the Bucs. And Jahad Campbell is off the board. You cannot give them Jahad Campbell, which has been my lazy pick for them every single week when we do mocks. So who are you going with the Bucs here? I picked my team. It's the easiest one. It's the easiest player for the team to fit in this entire draft. Yeah.

My only regret for taking Campbell at 16 for the Cardinals that I can't also take him here at 19 with the Bucs. Yeah, a couple different options I'm kind of kicking around here. I have one wild pick, but I'm not going to do that one. I think I'll just...

I think I'll go with Jalen Walker here. You know, again, somebody that I think they can use at multiple spots, you know, he can, he can be a blitzer for them. I actually think if he fought like,

He doesn't normally fall this far in many mocks, but I think if he falls to Todd Bowles here, this actually could be a really good spot for him because they can use him off the ball and just say, hey, just go hunt the quarterback, man. So they obviously need... Assigning Hasan Reddick, that's not an end-all solution for your pass rush problems. Walker, he is a guy that I think...

could struggle in terms of just like reaching a true elite ceiling as a as an edge rusher but um he is certainly going to help this defense in year one and and hopefully can you know continue to get stronger and develop as a pass rusher in the nfl yeah walker tweener is if you don't like him versatile is if you like him you know that's how you want to go about it uh i just want him in my front seven some way should perform not going to be perfect for everybody but

Cardinals is one of those defenses I really liked him for. The Chiefs would have been a defense I really like him for. The Bucks is another defense I really like him for because just what you just laid out. He is Todd Bull's defense makes a ton of sense. He can be used like how Devin White was used.

and, okay, rush the running back or just be a designed pressure guy. Like that's what you do. Play some coverage stuff. We mitigate some of your other weaknesses. I don't think we've done Walker to the Bucs, but this one I like a lot. I feel like there's not one. I almost flipped Walker and Campbell. I almost flipped Walker and Campbell just like I would have gone Walker at 16 and then make Campbell here. And I think that honestly might make a little bit more sense, but it's what we would do. And I just think Campbell's a better prospect.

I love it. You, you like Walker too, Chuck. And, uh, maybe, maybe I think, I can't remember where you have them on your board. Um, I think I'm like 16, 17. Yeah. Okay. So I'm slightly higher. So yeah, kind of right in your range. You like, you like this fit too here with the bucks.

Yeah, he's a good player. He's a quality player. I think that just the whole mess of skills that he has would fit well in a Bulls defense where maybe if there's a guy who can figure out what spot is best for you, Bulls is one of those guys. He's probably got a little work to do in terms of like

natural feel of being a true off the ball linebacker. But if you're going to, if you want to have them in a defense, you want them in one that has the players moving forward a lot and trying to recap the backfield. And that's right. That's a leave it there. That's a great way to put it. He's best going forward. So make them go forward, get them in a defense. That's constantly going forward and attacking and attacking. He wants to be attacking. All right. I have the Broncos here at pick 20.

before we take our last break, it's either running back or tight end. So I'm either deciding between Amari and Hampton from North Carolina or Tyler Warren tight end from Penn State. I'm going Hampton. I want them to have a running back. I want them to have a running back that's a needle mover.

And that to me is Hampton who's running back two for me. I think it's the consensus running back two as well. I've compared him to Joe Mixon in the past and I think he can bring that kind of skill set. They want a guy that can eat some touches. Champagne will always split his running back backfield. So maybe Hampton is a little like

I may prefer as the 1A in the backfield. But man, it can catch the ball as well. Can just do a little bit. Everything's going to be able to take the hard touches that Javante Williams kind of wasted last year. But man, they're there. And Hampton's going to take full advantage of him. Obviously, I think they're going to maybe try and get Genting in some way, shape, or form. Maybe they move up for somebody else that they have their eyes on. Maybe McMillan or something like receiver. But I think offensive weapon is an easy fit for the Broncos going with Hampton here.

Thought about Warren, but still got Hampton just because I think Sean Payton really wants that juicy running back there. Any other backs here? I know Travion Henderson's getting some hype. Any other backs maybe for the Broncos that you guys like, Matt or Charles, that you guys think maybe would be a better fit? I think Hampton's the dude, though. Yeah, I think he has a lot of fits here.

Sweet. Sweet. Thank you for the affirmation, guys. I really appreciate it. Let's do this more. All right, we're going to take our last break, and then we're going to come back to round up the first round of our mock draft.

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It's everything you want in an SUV. Learn more at chevy.com forward slash Equinox. We are back. We're going to blitz through these last 12-ish picks of the first round. Going with the Steelers. Charles, who do you got for the Steelers? I'm going to do it.

Yeah, we're going to take Shador here. Okay. I don't really love this pick for them here. I don't know if I'm in love with the fit, but they've just, they've pigeonholed themselves into a spot where you can't have a team that is built out in other facets on the defense and you've created for DK Metcalfe.

And just to roll with Mason Rudolph, come on. You have to at least give yourself a better shot than that. So I think as far as we know right now, you have to not assume what you can't,

presume that Aaron Rodgers is going to be a quarterback here. Adam Schaffer has linked Kirk Cousins to the Steelers and to the Vikings as well. So I think this is just a, we got to protect ourselves here a little bit. We don't quite know what's going on yet. So we're going to take Shador here and at least give ourselves a chance to have somebody better than Mason Rudolph to start under center. Yeah.

They got to take a QB, right? Not just round one, but sometime in this draft. Sometime. Early in this draft. Yeah. Yeah. You mentioned Rodgers. They're inquiring about Kirk Cousins. So we'll see what Cousins movement on draft weekend. That's either, like you said, they put themselves in a bad spot. They got to reach on a quarterback that's either old and Tyler Schuch or a project, which is everybody else.

It's not like some guy where it's like, yeah, this guy's ready-made and we saw him right in. So it's, you know, and I think shooter is a project. I really do. Um, a project as a passer, as a pocket passer, like that's where he has to continue, uh, to get to where he wants. So, okay.

It's rich. It's rich on any of these QBs. And I wanted my prediction to come true with only one the first round, which still might happen. We'll see. Jackson Dart backed out of Green Bay. I noticed. Noticers are noticing. So we'll see. But yeah, Shadar here, Steelers, maybe a second corner for them. You know, I think they're going to go running back in day two because they've had

14 running backs for top 30 visits, which is not that much of an exaggeration. Let's move on to the Chargers, though. Matt, it's your pick. Colson Loveland's not there. Kenneth Grant's not there. I'm just taking away all the Michigan guys for you. Who are you going with the Chargers here?

I will stick with the tight end position, though, and I'm going to go Tyler Warren here, who has fallen pretty far in our draft. But I think this makes a lot of sense. You know, Tyler Warren, I think, has gone a little bit overstated as a in-line blocker, but he is a mismatch move around weapon. Not too dissimilar to Mark Andrews, who obviously Greg Roman...

obviously was super successful and productive with in Baltimore. So I think you can kind of deploy him in some similar ways and he'll give you some really some plays after the catch. I think that's what will be nice about this Chargers receiver. As much as they need some perimeter separation, Ladd McConkie gives you

at all three levels, but he's not, he is a tackle breaker, but I don't know how much I want to be like, let's design some screens and underneath stuff to lad McConkie. So we continue to just get more punishment on his little body. Let's get a big dude in here that we can do some of that stuff with. And that is Tyler Warren. And also, by the way, the fact

to have will Disley who they were very comfortable playing a lot last year allows them to do some fun 12 personnel things and keep a true inline tight end on the field and move Tyler Warren around. So I actually think if the board fell this way for Los Angeles, I think this would be a great fit that kind of checks multiple boxes for their offense in last year. And I remember we talked about this one. I mean middle of last year. I think you and I on your show Matt had like a little bit like Chargers offense talk and

And they want, and then I think I was like, you know, they're going to be in heavier personnel. And you're like, actually, they're more of a 11 personnel team. Like that just kind of a, they want to be a two tight end or a fullback team. Yeah. 21, 12 team. They want to, they want you to be big bodied and get big body defense out there and attack those big body defense. You know, the big body defenders, the linebacker set, they have to be out there when you have two receiving only tight ends. Defenses may not feel that threat, but if you have a disley and then you got a Warren, you know,

okay, am I going to really trust my DB to hold up against this? Am I going to trust my slot guy? And I'm not talking about passing game. I'm talking about run game stuff. Cause you know, Warren's in line stuff. You brought it up, talked about a little bit in the past. I think that his blocking is best on the move. Best when he's in motion and best when he's against linebackers and DBs, not edge players. That's why I gave love when the bomb, but you get them on the move, get creative with it, have another tight on the roster that can unlock those things. Yeah. All about that.

a great shot with the Andrews thing too. Like that makes a lot of sense too, as far as how he can be used. So, um, they like having their tight ends on the move as not only just blockers, but route running as well. Um, think of all the sale routes, Disley caught last year, you know, the corner routes over there, crossers and everything. I think warrants best on those where you can get on the move and use his body control and stuff. So really like this pick. I think tight end makes it a lot of sense for them. Um, God,

McMillan would actually be a lot of fun there too because him and Ladd McConkie would make some sweet music in the receiver room with Justin Herbert but we'll see another team that might like McMillan a lot is who I got here Green Bay Packers pick 23

And I just spent way too much time talking about Tyler Warren that I didn't even think about a player here. I think they're looking, you know, if McMillan fell to them, I think they'd definitely look there. But I think they are going trenches or corner. Like, those are positions I look at for them. Man, is this the Shemar Stewart spot? Might be. Let me look. You know, this might be it for them. God, another project edge. That'll make justice to the guy be.

Oh, that's right. I'm doing it for our boy Justice. I can't believe I'm doing something for Justice. There we go. I'm going to do it for our boy Justice. He likes Shamar Stewart more than I do. No, just to be clear, Justice thinks Shamar Stewart should be the first pick in the draft. Yeah, yeah. He thinks he's like...

absolute game wrecker type. Maybe get some glasses on them. Maybe they can get some, maybe, you know, work on that vision a little bit with Stewart. No, I'm going to go with here. They need pass rushers. They need, they can go a lot of directions on defense. I was looking at Savon Revell maybe here at corner for them as well. But I think Stewart here, I'm comfortable with, you know, taking him in the twenties, way more comfortable taking Stewart there as opposed to top 10.

That's the difference that I have maybe with some other people how they evaluate him. So I'm going to go with Stewart. I just want them to have beef. Maybe just get another talented guy. Maybe Lucas Van Ness will work out finally. So let's get another project-y edge rusher in here and see if he can figure it out. But going there with Stewart. Don't think they offensively

maybe offensive line, maybe, but I think they're going to wait for day two on that. So yeah, that's it for the Packers. I kind of want McMillan there. That's like, that's my fan fiction. If we're talking about fan fiction, that's mine. I'm trying to manifest that. I want to tour a McMillan on the green Bay Packers. All right. Moving on over in the NFC North, formerly the NFC Central, Minnesota Vikings, Charles.

Maybe a trade candidate here, but we're not doing trades. I'm just, let's get, let's wrap this up. Charles McDonald, Minnesota Vikings. Where are you going? I picked 24 for the Vikings in the first round. I'm going to say Waltzman Nolan here. Yeah. I think it makes, I think it's a lot of sense just for you. You signed John Allen and Javon Hargrave this off season. Yeah. I,

I think to me, those are good moves. I feel a little wary about the Hargraves signing. I don't know where he is right now. And either way, even if those guys were at the top of their game, you still need a long-term fit with their age, where they are in their careers. So we're going to go with Walter.

I think this makes a whole lot of sense because this is a guy who likes to be aggressive, attack, get upfield. And in Brian Flores' defense, maybe there's more opportunities for one-on-one blocks where he can use his speed out in the open field and make some tackles for loss. So I think it kind of helps to have...

potentially two sturdier players playing with him because he's going to be a guy that takes his chances and tries to get up the field and having maybe some veteran guys that are a little bit calmer and play within the rules a little bit more will be good for him. But the playmaking ability is still something the Vikings need, and he's got that at least.

Saying that he's calmer than a player whose nickname is the Gravedigger is pretty fun. Yeah, but no, you're right. You're right. And Jonathan Allen's got a full cage face mask. No, no. God, I actually haven't thought about this fit. This is a really good one for Nolan. Yeah, it makes sense. Like, this is...

This one, because he needs time to kind of hone it all in and also all the movement they do with the defensive linemen. They like to slam the guys and everything. That's where Nolan's a weapon on. So, yeah, I like this one a lot for them, Charles. You're up next, Matt, with the Houston Texans. Josh Connelly's gone. That's the guy I really like for them. Any other offensive linemen maybe for them? Or where else are you going to go for the Houston Texans?

Yeah, there's some receivers I like in this spot. I think Emeka Igbuku would be great, but I'm going to be mature here and I'm going to focus on the trenches for the Houston Texans. I don't remember. I mean, God, there's just been so many pre-draft conversations. I have no idea when or where some of them occurred. But I was talking about this with someone recently where I think Josh Simmons makes a lot of sense for Houston because they have Cam Robinson there. And Cam Robinson is...

You know, maybe not a full-time solution, maybe not a long-term solution, maybe not even like an acceptable. So I think actually, Charles, you and I might have been talking about this on the offensive line preview on the fantasy podcast. There we go.

There we go. I found it. So Josh Simmons, we talked about this, like Cam Robinson might be just a temporary solution, but that allows you, Hey, if Simmons is coming back a little slow from this injury, like we can onboard him at a more acceptable pace, but in the longterm, this is your left tackle that you really, really need here for Houston.

no i i that timeline makes a lot of sense like i think the simmons landing spots because it's a power tenant which is not a nothing injury it's not like in the meniscus or something where it's like okay we can come back from this it's pretty serious uh texans and chiefs make a ton of sense because chiefs uh you know what they've done they signed a little stop gap in the off season but again does not preclude you from taking a long-term left tackle uh

I think the marching orders are offensive line for, for the Texans. So I think the offensive lineman is their answer here or what they're going to go with who it is. Don't know Simmons though. Ton of talent, top 15 talent. It's just all the other stuff that you have to gauge where you're at with him. So I like this a lot. Uh, go with the Rams. That's me.

God, I've been really liking going up. Like, I think they should draft an offensive lineman because I just think that they should have some juice there. And I'm going to go with Calvin Banks. I actually think this is a good time. Damn, that's what I was going to take for the Ravens. Yeah, I actually was like, man, he's on his step. I was like, he's stepping in.

I was like, he's still on the board. Let's do this. They, God, they, man, they're kind of a sneaky tight end team for me a little bit too. Like, but I don't think, I think the top two guys, I don't know if Mason Taylor would be totally their bag. We'll see. They could go DB would be another position I would maybe look at here, but,

I think Kelvin Banks makes sense. You can start him at guard and then take over Rob Havenstein when he moves on with his career. Rob's been still a nice, solid star. He's now battling some injuries, but he's been there forever. Shoot, I played with him in college. That's how old Rob Havenstein is. Yeah, I know. Ancient. His nickname was Crab at Wisconsin because he was from Maryland. And Maryland, what does Maryland do best? Football and crab cakes. So we just shortened it to Crab. Yeah.

Yeah, Calvin Banks, though. We could get some more juice on the offense. There's Devontae Adams, too. So let's beef up the offensive line, get a needle mover, get an injection of talent that can maybe either play tackle long-term, but at the very least can be an interior player for us. And that's the size that I think McVay... McVay's not like other Shanahan guys. He likes beef up front as opposed to just finesse-y guys. So Banks makes some sense for them. Next pick, Ravens. Banks off the board, though. What are you going to go with there, Charles?

I would go with Malachi Starks from Georgia safety. I don't know. He's kind of an interesting fit with Kyle Hamilton, but I do think that they could play off each other pretty well. And also Kyle Hamilton, he's the one on the football field. So even if you think that Starks is best close to the line of scrimmage, I still think that there's room for Kyle Hamilton to be still a game-breaking player in that defense after you lose.

Marcus Williams, who cut him in the offseason. I think we saw that the other safety, the third safety that they had last year, Darius Washington. He's a nice player. He's a little limited, you know, at times. You realize why he was a career special teamer? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, he's 5'8". You know, he's trying his best out there. But I think you could use an upgrade at safety next to Kyle Hamilton. So this kind of feels like one of those Ravens things where, oh, I guess Malachi Starks just kind of fell in our laps, played a lot of good football at Georgia, and I think he'll continue to do it in the NFL. Yeah, and shoot, even if they wanted to say –

Oh, it's keep Washington in the back end. Okay. Well then Hamilton and or Starks can be the slot and we can bump out Marlon Humphrey to the outside. Now like that. I mean, that's nice. We talk about best five enablers with offense line. Malachi Starks is like a best five enabler for maybe best three enabler safeties in the slot spot as well. But it makes, he makes a lot of sense for the Ravens. I actually really like this. Him and Hamilton have some versatility as well, but though I kind of get to it differently, I,

uh uh starks maybe has a little bit more speed and everything i don't know they they you know hamilton's very rangy and long um but i like this one a lot i a few months ago kind of was thinking about it but i thought starks would be gone by then but now it really seems like he'll be there i picked 27 so this one makes sense that or offensive line like that that's kind of what i've kind of circled for them uh matt at lions pick 28 what he got

Yeah, I'm going to go with Tyler Booker here. They lose Kevin Zeitler in the offseason. This is a team that always wants to keep that offensive line strong. It just feels like he is the mentality, the physicality on the offensive line that a guy like Dan Campbell and Brad Holmes would really like. And I realize, obviously, from an athletic standpoint, he does not

pass the test. He might not be great on some of these, but they do so much. I know they're a zone team at times, and they do a little bit of everything. And at times, you'd think like, yeah, they do everything. But some of those zone plays, they really mobilize the tackles. They'll pull Panay Sewell and all this, like

fun stuff. So I, I think ultimately they can get him in there and really, again, they might lean into more gap stuff down the line. I think that would perfectly make sense with a back like Jameer Gibbs, like let's blow those lanes open with Booker and give him some real holes to explode through. And ultimately, again, from an athletic standpoint, he might not pass the test, but

But Brad Holmes has been willing to take quote-unquote risks at times before. So I think this just makes a lot of sense. Again, continue to make a strength stronger. Yeah. No, that this is – he's not going to be a fit for everyone because I think anyone that has Shanahan, worked for Kyle Shanahan in their resume, Booker's not going to be in there because he's not going to be a zone-heavy run scheme guy. Guess what? Most teams are shifting away from zone-heavy. They were going a little bit more power and gap. Yeah.

So Booker is going to fit. He fits for the lines, like what they want to do. They, they like beef. They like size. I think they prefer that even more than speed. And Booker's just, he's a good football player and he's big and strong and has strengths. It's just that,

his weaknesses or his blemishes aren't going to be for everyone. Everyone's not going to tolerate that as much as others will. So I think they go line trenches somewhere. Like I could see him going opposite edge off of Hutchinson. I could see him going guard. Like all of these make sense to me. God, who am I, who am I going to go with? Cause I am up next.

with the Washington Commanders. I actually have been liking Malachi Starks there a little bit. I've also just been really, really, really looking at their long-term edge prospects and also just other aspects of their team. You know, safety is another spot I've looked at for them. You know, maybe even offensive line. Stall, stall, stall. I'm going to go with...

They need a pass rusher. I'm going to go with Donovan Aziraku from Boston College. Aziraku, I'm sorry. Donovan Aziraku, Boston College. Long, maybe not perfectly what Dan Quinn always likes with his pass rushers, but he plays hard and he's got length and he's got some pass rush moves.

I think Dan Quinn will like that. I think they want maybe some more edge guys that can truly get after the passer for them. Another position I looked at, if Malachi Starks was here, I'd really like him for there. Or, you know, Nick Amanowori. Again, this is what I would do. I would not take Nick Amanowori in the first round. So I'm not taking there, but safety is another spot that they can maybe look at as well. Offensive line too. Maybe they want to go offensive line here. There's some interesting names like Donovan Jackson or something of that sort. As a guy that maybe this year they could,

figure out their best five on the long term. But I'm going to go here. I'm going to go with Ezra Raku. I just think that they want guys that get after the passer and he can get after the passer. Not really much else there. They're such an interesting team because they made all those trades and stuff this offseason. So it's kind of really shifted the draft thinking. So I'm curious where they end up going to. All right. Last three picks. Let's bring it home, guys. Charles, Buffalo Bills.

Who you got for them? I'm going to try Amos Ole Miss quarterback. Nice.

Yeah, I know they signed, oh my God. You got it. You got it. Bedford, the cornerback. Yeah, Christian Bedford. Christian Bedford, yeah. It's because he wears 47. That's why you're like, you can't. Yes, yes. It's like, my brain sees him and goes, oh, that's UDFA. Yeah, but no, he's actually. You're right, though. Yeah, it's our special team we're doing out there.

Yeah, 47. What the hell is that? I know who I am. If I were a cornerback in the side corner at 47, I am targeting him. That's exactly who I'm going after. I don't even need to know your name. I don't need to watch the film. Nope. If I see cornerback 47, I'm going after you. But Amos, I think that that would be a good fit across from Mentor. Just a really good football player. That's probably because I'm a...

I don't remember which show it was where we were talking about him, but I compared him to AJ Terrell. And then if you look up like his combine, he had a damn similar combine to AJ Terrell. Maybe not the most explosive guy, but moves well. Just has really good ball skills, defensively.

for lack of a better term, knows how to play football pretty well. So I think that he fits in that cornerback room. And I mean, the Bills, they just re-signed Davis White. So, you know, they need some help at cornerback, I think, obviously in a pretty big way.

Yeah, I like Amos a lot. I think this is exactly his range. Would not be shocked if he sneaks in the first round just like this. Pick 30. This makes a lot of sense. Really like Amos. I just do. I think a lot of people, once you watch him, you're like, oh, this guy's just a ball player. And then Tess is better than you would even think. So I think, yeah, Amos, yeah, like this a lot. Bills need it. They can go a few spots. That would make sense, too. I'm curious where they end up pushing in this draft. All right.

Matt, you got the Chiefs pick 31 defending AFC champion, three-time defending AFC champion. Who are you going with the Chiefs? They probably have character concerns.

James Pierce, come on down. No, actually not the, not the worst idea in the world. It's really, it's really not the worst idea in the world. The more I thought about it, like, actually that's not bad. I thought about maybe Donovan Jackson here, you know, cause they do need offensive line help and he would give them somebody that, all right, Kingsley, Suamatea and him could just go to work at battling for that left guard spot to replace Joe Tooney. But yeah,

I'm sorry. I got to do it. I'm such a big Ameca Buka fan. I think he would just really look great in this receiver room. Like finally get a mature route runner, somebody who's just where he's supposed to be. We don't have to do any like all this designery stuff you got to do for Rishi Rice, all this designery stuff you got to do for Xavier Worthy.

Get somebody in here who can actually just run routes, settle down, and be a reliable target. They haven't had somebody like that in a minute. This is a pure vanity pick for me, but I'm going Emeka Ibuka at 31. It's what they wanted Juju Smith-Schuster to be, but then a guy with actual two working legs. That would be Ibuka. It's hololike.

Coach favorite, all that stuff. So yeah, he makes a lot of sense. Does dirty work too. Like you just brought that up. But like, you know, Worthy is more of a selective player. He has to be used in certain ways. Ibuka could be used in any which way and he's going to be a positive player for you. He's one of those guys, no matter who takes him. I'm like, yep, that makes sense.

Like, cause it's one of those guys, his skillset makes sense for everybody. He's a scheme proof guy without being an elite talent, but I still think he's a good talent. I have him as a receiver too. So no, I like this. So anyways, they'll take Luther burden. All that said, they'll take Luther burn. They'll take, I'm trying to think some like day two pass rusher. They'll take like,

Brandon Swinson or something like that. Something like that. Carson Schlesinger, a linebacker of some sort. I got the Eagles to wrap us up defending Super Bowl champions. I'm deciding between two guys here. One is Mason Taylor, tight end. Maybe they move on from Dallas Goddard. That might be a sneaky draft guy. Not sneaky. I think it's pretty out in the open. They're trying to trade him. But yeah, maybe move on a tight end.

But I kind of changed my mind here. And now I'm trying to remember what I changed my mind to. I'm going to go offensive line. I'm going to go with Donovan Jackson, Ohio State, offensive guard. I see him as a guard. This is no more reclamation projects. You know, Tyler Steen has shown some nice things, but I think Jackson is a better player than Steen. I think of him as, boom, you drop him in. There's your right guard. Done. You guys are set.

and then also can kick out the tackle if you need it just in case, just like Steen can a little bit. So just having that little bit of versatility as well. I think he can hold his own as a tackle, but do not see him as a long-term tackle. I see him as a good guard. I'm really high on Jackson. Ended up having him above Booker. I just really think this is a good guard, a needle-moving guard. Eagles like to go trenches. That's what they prefer. The tie goes to the trenches, especially there. I think they go with Jackson, kind of shore up, continue.

Continue to shore up the offensive line. Good job, guys. We did it. 32 picks for this mock draft. We'll have 32 picks for you Thursday night with analysis. This is what we would do. Some of what teams will do on Thursday will be what we would do. Some of it would be what we would not do. Some would be something we didn't even think of. So we'll see. It's going to be a lot of fun. So make sure you guys join us. Like I said, the Yahoo Sports app. Check us out on YouTube. Check us out on X. All that good stuff. But we will be back Thursday night.

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