Wrestling Matches, Playing Live When Others Don't and Vitamin Store Encounters :: Ep 46 Try That in a Small Town Podcast
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He said, me and my buddy have been doing something and it's really cut into our cardio. We're cutting calories like crazy. And he said, it's really great. I said, what are you guys doing? He goes, well, we're wrestling.

No, he didn't. Dude, I mean, you honestly can't make this up. Okay. I said, oh, wrestling. Yeah, I did that when I was in junior high. Wasn't that great? But he goes, no, my full basement is full on wrestling pads. There's no furniture. It's just wrestling pads. With mud? With oil? Maybe oils. I don't know. I do need to ask you this because I think it's serious. Okay. Cobb's getting serious. Uh-oh.

I'm going to send you an email later tonight. You do need to report to me five things you've done in the last week. Okay. Why are people getting mad about that anyway? The first thing we do at award shows is go find the list of people playing live. It is. And we always know who it's going to be. It's us. It's Miranda Landry. Miranda always, her band always plays live. You know, Stapleton. You can always tell who's not playing live. Yeah.

Easy to tell. I can pick that off. Because they're dressed in long leather coats and scarves and things that you could never play live in. The Try That in a Small Town podcast begins now. Try That in a Small Town.

Here we are, another episode of the Try That in a Small Town podcast episode. Woo! We love it! Hey, we're coming to you from the Patriot Mobile Studios. Still sounds good. It still sounds great. Yeah, it does. Are they still sponsoring this? Yeah. Believe it or not, there's a small sign behind you there. Yeah, see, you can't see that. I know. But believe me, we're thrilled to have them. We got...

It's Neil. Calling you first name again. It's Neil. Kelly. Brother Neil. Tully. Wow. And I feel like I insulted Ed, and I didn't mean to do that. No, you didn't. He's tough. He is tough, actually. But he's trying to come up with a good nickname for me, and God bless him. And I saw a new one. MC. I saw that, too. I don't know, man. We're struggling. You guys got to get with Ed. Master of ceremonies. So Kurt does have a couple nicknames. I do. Actually, I have a nickname. You have a lot of nicknames. What is it?

Well, here's the thing about nicknames. They may not make sense. One of them is just called Corn because he's from Iowa. So forever, we'll call him Corn. And that's pretty common on the road. I like it, Corn. Aldina would be like, hey, where's Corn? I like Corn. We'll be like, I don't know. He's on the bus or he's pouring drinks. Most people like Corn. A lot of carbs. And then another unfortunate one. No, his other one. His other one. Wait a minute. I don't think Caleb would say that.

I like corn. Corn's good. A lot of carbs, he said. It's not the most healthy vegetable, but... It's very colorful. Is it a vegetable? It is, isn't it? Corn? Yeah. Yeah. It's just... It's not a fruit. No, it's not. It's not that nutritious, I think. But don't any of you say you don't like corn.

I love it for you. I love it for your name. I do. Corn on the cob? Do you guys eat corn on the cob? Oh, it's amazing. Sweet corn. We always call you Cob. Cob. There it is. Cob. That's how nicknames start. That's how nicknames start. Cob. What do you think, Ed? What's up, Cob? What do you think, Ed? Cob. Cob ain't bad. I mean, it's just corn, I think. It's better than my other nickname. And Ed, if you're listening, Ed, which I hope you are, I'm sure you are.

Get out there and recruit, man. Ed's recruiting, I promise you. The Ed Army. Ed, I'll say this about Ed. He leaves us the best conversation

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Kalo, how was your day? It was okay. A little lengthy. Tell us about it. Lengthy? Yeah. I mean, it's lengthy just as far as the drive goes. Tell us about your co-write today. Oh, you had a co-write. Yeah, it was fine. Now, these are great stories because people don't understand. For every song you might hear on an album or streaming or on the radio, there's a million other days where they're just...

Not great. So, Kalo, did you have a great day? Was it a great day? Well, it actually started on Tuesday. It actually started on Friday. Oh, hold on. Your day-to-day started on Friday? No, just a little evolution of what took place started on Friday. Okay. And it just continued over. And you think, well, it's just one day, right? That's kind of carried over. Tell the listeners that. Some of this is inside. So, if you live in a certain part of town, in Nashville, and you're

And you've had, say, a certain amount of success. You don't feel like you need to be driving 50 minutes to your co-write, you know? You want to come out of your bubble. Yeah, but anyway, but you're still trying to write with everybody and be a pleaser. I'm a pleaser by nature, you know, and I'm with a new publisher and...

Red Street, Music Publishing, Jada Marcus, Kelly King, Amanda Roach. I talked to Jay about this, by the way. How'd you draw a lot? Shout out. But anyway, but you go to, you get to the right, and I looked on my book, and I knew the names. I thought, hey, that's good. That's a good-looking writer. Who were they? I'm not going to say who they are. He won't do it. But anyway, one of them was a couple artists, and another writer. To the artists, are they...

This is important today. Well, I think he's going to get to what your question is going to be. Well, no, no. I'm going to ask the question. And you forgot to say, sorry to interrupt. But seriously, are there artists that have been at radio? Uh-huh. Okay. One. One has.

Dual artist, right? Well, you know, we have artists of different levels that have stuff out there that are doing pretty well. They're all writing together now. Everybody's just one big happy co-write. But anyway, so I went ahead and I drove, okay? And I thought, you know what? I'll do it. It looks good on the book. So I drove out there, was thinking about ideas. But when I got there, and I was complimentary, I said, well, we obviously got enough talent in the room. So my question is, who are we writing for? And he just kind of looked at me and said, what do you mean? I said,

we got two artists, you both got record deals and you're not a duo. Who are we? We're writing for you or you? Can you please tell me who they are? No, no. Come on, Caleb. No, be rude. No, he's not going to do that. What did they say to this? What songs have they sung? Then the first one said, said, uh,

I said, oh, man, Hoss, I just dropped a record in January. Oh, no. And the other guy said, yes, I just released mine. I said, like two weeks ago. And I said, so why are we here? Did you really say that? And they said, oh, man, we can just write something. I'm like, yeah, let's just write something for fun. That rhymes. Now, you've got to explain to people because if you don't have a target –

It's hard to write like that. Well, the thing is, it's a blessing if you get in the room with artists. The thing is, if they just released records, it's going to be a minimum of a year before they even start recording. Oh, minimum. So whatever we write that day, even if it's great, it'll be completely forgotten about by the time they come around again. And they won't sing the demo. So just as a straight-up writer, you're like, today is somewhat meaningless. It was you, two artists of unknown name,

And dare I say, someone doing a track. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But the track person was really good. And the song was really good. It really was. It was just, where's it going? What's the track guy's name? It wasn't a track guy. It was a track girl. What's her name? I'm not going to tell you. She's really good though. Who is it?

I'm not going to tell you. Let's give her a shout out. She's really good. Give her a shout out. No, she's great. Give her a shout out. She's great. But your point to all this is a song is now in purgatory. It's floating. Most likely. Now, the odds are so small that anything good would come from it. And then you have to build yourself up on the way back home. It's like a short hour and a half drive. You're only going 20 miles. But to get back home thinking, well, that's a good song.

Well, and so it happened again yesterday and today. Well, Monday, that was Monday. Friday was the exact same. Wrote with a duo that I'd been trying to write with for a couple of years. And I did get, I'd gotten with them. And right after they'd put the record out. Great guys. Great guys. And that was fun too.

So I got to meet them. Now, I do think you have to explain because people say, oh, you get to write songs. That's great. But this is a business for us, and you do need to have a strategy on every write. Yeah. So you're hoping when you're going to a write, especially with an artist –

Hey, we got an album coming out in six months. This is what we're shooting for. It's really hard for songwriters just to be like, let's just write a song and I don't know, let's just see what ends up with it. It's just really hard to get a song cut like that. This is our business. That's how we make money to just say, mm,

I don't know. Yeah. It's frustrating. Yeah. And it's much more exciting for the whole room. If somebody says, hey, man, we're going in. We're going to cut three more things in two weeks. Then the whole room is like, this is great. This is a great opportunity. So I'm going to look and find the best ideas possible. Yeah. But when you know that they're not going in for a year and a half, the first thing I did is I just thought,

Well, that ain't gonna be my idea. Yeah. I'm not pitching. I'm not pitching one. No, no, no. I'm not pitching. Now I'll try my best with their idea. And it did. It worked out great. But, but you're not going to burn one because not going to get recorded. Yeah. By that, by those, that act. Interesting weekend you've had. Yeah. Yeah. So it just kind of spilled over a lot of driving. Yeah.

I actually forgot. Where did you drive to? Or can you give that away? Today, one was Sylvan Park. And one was Franklin on Friday. That was easier. At least you're close to home. At least your failure was close to home. And then

and then uh west nashville and then east nashville uh east nashville yeah uh neil you said what a coffee shop i had to remind me of right before we went on like sometimes we we have well actually we never have bullet points of what to talk about and i was saying it was anybody got something we want to start with and neil's like who cares let's just talk it ain't live no and it actually reminded me of a great story totally you want to tell the story

What year was this? Oh, I don't, I'm bad at that game. I'm going to say 2012. This is, I think it's somewhere near there. So we were doing American Idol when it was at its height. So we were doing, don't you want to stay with Kelly Clarkson? Right? Yeah. Yeah. Huge song, really big moment. Cause I think the viewership on that show was insane. It was like 70 million a week or some crazy number. So we play live, live. And I don't think people realize that.

A lot of times, a lot of bands on TV don't play live. We've always played live. You're right. Most people might not realize that. They don't realize that most bands are miming or faking. Yeah, it's a track. Yeah. Yeah. So we get up there and we sound check. And then I remember this very, it's very funny to me because we'd sound check. And this is a big moment. And then we go to the green room.

our dressing room for like five hours. It feels like rich, rich webinar, fantastic. You're never falls asleep, takes a nap. You know, um, we go out and all of a sudden it's like rush. You're rushed. So you go out 10 minutes to LD. And so we run out there and we're checking our amps and they're in commercial break. So they're in commercial break, got a minute 30, uh,

It's counting down and Jack's amp, our second guitar player, it isn't working. There's nothing coming out of his amp. And our tour manager at the time, Tim McCormick, God rest his soul,

Goes, oh, Jack, don't worry about it. There's a tape delay. It's not live. Live is a tape delay. We're like, okay, cool. Yeah, it's live to tape, which for people in the industry, it means you're recording in basic live form, but it's going out later that night. So he goes, don't worry. It's live to tape. And they're going, minute, 30 seconds. Yeah, we're like, okay, cool, whatever. And Jack's like, oh, fine. And all of a sudden, like, okay.

And we heard that sound of Jack's amp. And then they count down five, four, and we start playing and we're like, Oh, that's cool. Thank God. You know, it's good. Jack's amp came on. We'd have to stop, you know? And so we play the performance. It was great. We get off stage and our phones are blowing up. You guys killed it. You did great. And we're like,

wait a minute yeah it was live live and we were just kind of sitting around going oh it's okay if they count down we'll be fine we'll just you know they'll have to stop and yeah we're like well if it doesn't work we'll just say no stop i know you know so our tour manager's like don't worry it's live to take that's funny it was and we always talk about this day like oh my god like can

Can you imagine if it cut to us and we're like messing with Jack Sam or trying to get it to work? And it would have been. You think Jim's, we think we're live right now and Jim's been. All right. There's Jim. Speaking of playing the tracks, like I don't think people realize that either on award shows or whatever. I mean, we've 99.9% always played live. You know, Jason wants it to sound live. It's just, that's our thing. Right. But most people don't.

Most people don't. Most people don't. And it's, you know, I don't know. I just, I think it's, I think it's interesting because. It's a security blanket for most. Yeah. And really, I mean, honestly. I get that. I mean, I get it. If you don't, I get that. Well, what they don't realize though is, is when you don't play live, you're generally playing to like a track that's been pretty well manipulated to be close to perfect. And so when, when, when your artist is singing to it, yeah, they're singing live. Yeah.

And the band's faking to an almost perfect track. And so there's no live feel for the artist. I wonder if there's any country artists that have had a Milli Vanilli moment where he got stuck. Has that ever happened to a country act that y'all know of? I don't know. I don't know. It's a good question. But it's funny, when the Milli Vanilli thing came out, that was like unheard of. Oh, there was a track. It was like, it's pretty common practice, actually. It really is. Yeah, and when you guys play like a televised thing,

It's got to be different than when you're on the road and you've got all your stuff and it's all your guys. It's a thousand percent different. So could you argue that if you're an act and you're on TV and it's not all your stuff and not all your sound, you just wouldn't trust it? You wouldn't build a ears good? I know what I was going to say, but listen, the producers of the show push most acts to do it to a track because...

It's a fail safe. It's always going well. And time. Yeah. It's exactly on time. So you're not going to have our American Idol moments where, oh my God, it doesn't work. So they kind of push them. But Jason and the management, to their credit, have always said, no, we're playing live. That's our thing. Well, it makes Jason more comfortable. And it's also live music and all its beautiful imperfections along with a live vocal.

So the first thing we do at award shows is go find the list of people playing live. It is. And we always, we always, we know who it's going to be. It's us. It's Miranda. Miranda. Always. Her band always plays live. You know, Stapleton, you know, plays live, you know, like, and you know, who's not going to play live. You can, you know, before you get in there. So it's, it, that's always kind of a sweet moment. And I love it because you see the guys not playing live and they're dressed. You can always tell who's not playing live. Yeah.

Easy to tell. I can pick that off. Because they're dressed in long leather coats and scarves and things that you could never play live in. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's always fun. And then we have a good time later.

kind of trolling the Instagram posts when the other players are like, playing the awards tonight. And we're like, no, you're not. You know who you are. You know who you are. I don't have any problem saying that either. I mean, does it annoy you? To their credit though, it's not the player's call. No, that's what I'm saying. They get brushed by the producers really because they want a show that's tightly run. But it is the player's call when they post.

playing the awards tonight not so not so fast playing the awards but you can always tell they got a scarf and a long coat and you know some sort of crazy hat over their eyes and gloves on yeah gloves playing guitars with gloves hey funny story about gloves though it's reminiscing night here uh

2004. We're out in Vegas. You're good at that game. Like who at our age is good at that game? I don't know how you do it. Cause I, cause my life is chapters in there. And I remember certain chapters, a lot of chapters. He's got a tattoo on his forearm. He's got his whole, I got a playbook right here. Now we're in Vegas. We're playing. We're without being the first album has not come out yet. It's cut, but it's not out. No knows who we are. We're at the, um, nationals finals rodeo in Las Vegas. Yeah.

December, it's freezing cold, 20 degrees, 25 degrees. Yeah, everybody thinks Vegas is warm year round. It's not. No, we were out there and we're playing on the steps of the arena outside. And literally me, Kurt, Jason, and Rich, two little speakers, like you're in a bar and people are just kind of walking around us and we're playing Amarillo Sky. We're playing Y. We're playing Johnny Cash. We're

We're playing Hicktown and no one even knows what they're listening to. And they're literally walking around us and it is so cold. Kurt has gloves on and he's kicking, he's killing it. I'm like, well, I don't know if I was killing it. How is he playing the guitar with gloves on? I was like, nobody's listening. It was so cold. And then it must be a thing with Vegas for us. Cause we have, we have a long history with Vegas, but we go out years later to do the Johnny Cash video.

for the second record and it snowed.

And we did the video out there and it was the coldest video. Oh, it was so cold. And they got a place in Vegas. They call it the graveyard where we did the video. And it's where all of the old neon signs that have been taken down, they put them all in this one spot. So all from like the old Vegas buildings and casinos, that's where they all are. It's really cool. That's cool. See, you remember that? I didn't remember that. You're firing, buddy. You got it. I ain't firing. You got some spark plugs still in there. Cobb. Cobb.

Oh, come on. I can't wait. Well, so you're talking about Vegas, and last time we talked a little bit about flying private and stuff like that, but it may surprise a lot of you guys to know that we sometimes fly commercial.

How are you guys feeling about flying commercially? There's been a lot of stuff happening. There was another thing today. Another thing today? What happened? Are you serious? It was a Southwest plane. What happened? Today, which I'm not sure when this will air, but it was today and everything ended up being okay, but it was to the credit of the crew of Southwest that saw, I think, a private plane coming from the side and they were landing.

And so they pulled up and, you know. Yes, they literally touched down on the runway, descending, got to the runway, saw a plane that was crossing that was going to take off. So what plane was landing? Southwest plane. The big plane. Yes. Okay. And literally saw the plane in front of them going this way, and he wheeled back up. What is going on? D-E-I.

I don't know. I don't know, but it's a lot. And then one of the Delta planes filled up with smoke, you know, like, and then they, they deplaned and that was today or yesterday. That just filled up with smoke and they all went out on the runway and you can see people's weird. They're just kind of, there's a bunch of unqualified people at the controls.

But that's what I'm going to go with that. It might be kind of random to, you know, like out in the country, like if somebody dies, then somebody else dies. You can hear the old country people saying, I hope I'm not in this group because things happen just kind of in circles a little bit. So sometimes it's just these things are happening, you know, and then it'll probably go away for a while. But I don't know. I'm just kind of interesting.

But your question was, how do we feel about flying? Yeah, because we have to do it. You have to do it. And for the most part, we don't, though. We don't. We don't. I mean, we want to be on that bus. And I'm not saying that traveling on the roads is...

safer i don't even know what the statistics would be but we would much rather be on the bus like tolly will say this it doesn't matter if we're coming from new york city back to nashville and you can get there in a two-hour flight now give us a 20-hour bus ride anytime yeah and we've in and we're fortunate enough to fly private a lot and bypass commercial and

Still, give me the long bus ride. Give me it. We're creatures. We've been on the road for so long. And we travel pretty comfortable. I mean, it's the band on a bus with a security guy. So it's great. Neil, do you like the bus? I do. I drive most everywhere now. Yeah, for Neil and I, just to cut down on overhead, we like to take like a Suburban. Tahoe. Neil likes to drive. So...

I think Neil has more miles on my Tahoe than I have. Yep. I like to drive. I'm a control freak. On corporate shows, and I like to ride, you know? Yeah, who drives? Neil does. He doesn't like it when I drive. It makes him nervous. It's like a Thelma and Louise thing you guys have. A little bit, and I don't mind. Kind of. Sort of. I don't mind. I'm a born follower, so I don't care. He sits back and goes through his emails. Yeah, I can do a lot of stuff. I was about to say, what's the conversation like on the road trips with...

Well, you know, it's like any old couple. We don't talk much. You know, we can just, we can enjoy each other and not say a thing. You know, like me and Lana. Yeah. It's like you and Lana 30 years. I mean, they don't, they hadn't said a word in 10 years. I don't think so. I tell you this though. Lana, first of all, she's a saint. We always talk about this. I feel like if you took Lana with you, you'd have like amazing food would just show up.

It does. Desserts. It does. Somehow everything would be perfect. It does. It does. It does. That's amazing. I mean, we're going down 65. I mean, there'd be like a dude in a tuxedo walking down the shoulder with him. That's what I feel like. That's what I feel like. She's going to make sure you're okay. Silver platter of coffee. I worry about you when Lana's not here. I do.

We just got back from the beach. Yeah, together. I'm worried about when you're alone. We went down to the Gulf of America. There you did. Yeah. The Gulf of Neil. Actually, we brought y'all back a little keepsake. You did? Oh, yeah. Sure did. Let me reach down here. Wow. Is that like we're going to do it live, live? Live, live. Yeah, this is live, live. Holy cow.

Are you being serious? Oh, I'm being dead serious. This is what Lana does, though. Wait, we have to open at the same time. This is what I just talked about. This was not my idea. It was my wife's idea. Well, of course, we know it was Lana's idea. But this is the first time that we've been back down to the Gulf of America since the name was changed. I pulled over at the boardwalk where we were staying. Lana went out there and collected a bunch of Gulf of America stuff for you guys. Are you being serious? Yeah, dead serious.

That's Gulf of America. Yes. I don't know where the cameras are. Look at that. That's great. That is American. Gulf of America. You guys are amazing. You guys are amazing. I don't even know. Well, thanks, guys. Well, when I say that, I mean Lana's amazing. She really is. That's awesome. Thank you, Lana. Everybody knows why I'm here. That's amazing. Yeah. So that's from the Gulf of America coast right there. Look at that. Right next to Will Lovis. Yeah.

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I hope you got that because that's good. We're back. This is a Try That in a Small Town podcast. Apparently, I'm CeCe. CeCe. Oh, corn cob. I don't know. Corn cob. I mean, that is how nicknames get formed. Do you want to tell me your other nickname? Cob is really just plain and cold. I mean, it's fine. Yeah. What?

See, the thing with nicknames, like nobody wants to be called Cobb, right? Yeah, I wouldn't. Cobb sounds really good compared to your other nickname. I have another nickname, which is, that sounds like a. It sounds more badass, Thrash or Cobb. Yeah, it's pretty good, actually. I mean, I like Cobb. I'm actually okay with Cobb. We're going to need Ed to weigh in, though, because I do trust Ed. But Cornhole.

No, we don't want that. We don't want that. Pass. Taylor, what do you think about cornhole? No. No? No, no, no. Too close to home? Speaking of cornhole. I've got a story. Oh, yeah. Do you want to tell a story? No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Say it. No, I'm just kidding. No, I thought we were leading in. Well, I don't know. It's a perfect segue. No, no, that's not the segue. Speaking of cornhole. No. Let's talk. You were telling us about- Speaking of Cobb. No, you were telling us a story about- Taylor, let's just get to the story. You were in a vitamin store. What happened?

Well, it was a long time ago. How long ago? I didn't know. It was probably... Three or four days? Two months? Yeah, it was three or four weeks ago. No, it was a few years ago. And I was at a health store, and I was asking the lady who worked there, and I was there all the time, so I asked the lady, I said, hey, I want to get something for a pre-workout, just to have more energy and stuff like that. And I said, so what do you think? Would you recommend anything? Okay.

And she said she didn't really know. And she said, she goes, but she goes, she's one of our customers. Rob, he's all about that. So I said, he'll be able to tell you. And I said, oh, great. So it was real close to closing time. You know, they close at nine. It was like eight forty five or whatever. And so so he comes over and and real nice guy. And he said, he said, he said, yeah, what kind of question you got to say? I was looking for just that.

A little bit more energy, a little pre-workout thing as opposed to the post. I heard that's really good. It gets you ready and burn more calories and build more muscle and stuff like that. He goes, yeah. He goes, what kind of workout are you doing? I said, well, right now I'm doing a body for life thing, but I go back and forth between that and P90X. He kind of steps back a little bit. He just kind of looks at me and he says,

I mean, I wish our listeners were actually watching because it's kind of a physical story, but he says, I can tell, but he says that he kind of looks back and kind of head to head. He goes, he goes, man, I can just tell you whatever you're doing is working, you know, but, but just kind of like that. And I said, and I said, that's a compliment. No, I said, thanks. I mean, I lit up like a Christmas tree, you know? And, uh, he goes, he goes, yeah. He said, uh, he said, man, uh,

He goes, I tell you what, your arms look pretty big. And I had a shirt just like this on and a t-shirt just like this, right? Yeah.

And he goes, I said, well, they're not really that big. I mean, you know, and he goes, he goes, no. And he reaches over and he, you know, just kind of grabs my arm, you know, just kind of unflexed. Did you flex? No, no. Oh, you know, you flexed. He doesn't have to. He's tight. He's tight. No, I fought. He's tight. No, I fought against it. I was going to. You wanted to. Yeah, of course. It's a natural reaction. Of course it is. Hey, did it move?

You're talking about the bicep? No, but he said, he goes, man, he goes, let me take a look at that. I said, what do you mean? He goes, I mean, you got a t-shirt on underneath there. And I'm thinking, are you serious? Like right here between the protein and the amino acids. Is it GNC? No, I don't know if I should say what store it was. It wasn't a GNC. It doesn't matter what store it is. It was a vitamin store-ish. Vitamin shop, sorry, yeah.

So anyway, so- What does he look like? Normal. Just a guy. Normal? What does that mean? He's in shape. He'd look like any one of you guys. Yeah. Well, I mean, I have really big biceps, so. For those of you only listening, I have huge biceps. Okay. Yeah. So anyway, so I said, so like right here? He goes, yeah, just us. And I'm thinking, he's right. It's just us. And so I kind of slowly worked it off the shoulder.

And then just kind of, and then, then flex it. And he, you know, and kind of like your dad, you know, when you make a muscle and you're a little kid and he goes, he goes,

Did he make that noise? No, but that's kind of what he did. He goes, wow. He goes, man, I'm telling you. He goes, I can recommend something for you, but I just keep doing what you're doing. He goes, but, because I tell you what, me and my buddy, if you want to change things up a little bit, he said, me and my buddy have been doing something and it's really cut into our cardio. We're cutting calories like crazy. He said, it's really great. I said, what are you guys doing? He goes, well, we're wrestling. And

No, he didn't. Dude, I mean, you honestly can't make this up. Okay, so go. I said, oh, wrestling. Yeah, I said, I did that when I was in junior high. Wasn't that great? But he goes, no, my full basement is full on wrestling pads. There's no furniture. It's just wrestling pads. With mud? With oil? Maybe oils. I don't know. But anyway, he goes, yeah, we get down there for hours and we just wrestle.

And I said, wow. Did you go? No, that's when. I was going to say, at what point do you go, oh. That's when I started thinking, oh.

He wants to hold me. Yeah, he wants to take you down. I realized this. So I said, you know what? I'm probably good. I mean, I live a good piece away from here. He goes, whereabouts? I said, oh, way over the hill. Anyway, so I got to the register and everything, and I was just trying to distance myself from him. Meanwhile, I'm looking at the lady like, hey, why'd you turn me over to this guy? You've had to know him. You've known him for years. Over to the what? The guy that was trying to pick me up. He's starting to say something. I mean, that can't be the first time. Well, I don't know.

Anyway. It's like your own little Pulp Fiction moment. But it doesn't stop there. I'm trying to... So...

So it's just us two. And then he's, he's, you know, behind me at the register. Behind you. And the door is, the door to, the door to get out is behind also. And he goes, and as I'm kind of squirreling around, he goes, he goes, Hey man, he goes, he goes, is that your Tahoe out there? And I said, and I said, I said, I said, yeah. And I had an old O2 Tahoe, gold one. And he goes, he goes, man, I tell you what, he goes, he goes, you got, you want to arm wrestle or something? We can arm wrestle. And I said, no. And I said, no.

I don't know. Why would we arm wrestle? I don't know why we'd... He goes, yeah, we could do it. Like, you had a console. We could arm wrestle over your console. And then I started panicking. I'm like, no, my bassing hound's out there, and he'll freak out. He'll freak out. He's in the front seat and everything. I got to go. Anyway, so I went out and started and left. I'm sorry, but that's like the ending of that I was not expecting. Yeah, it was like, okay, when I'm walking out, is he running behind me? I don't know. So... And I didn't want to hurt his feelings. You know how that goes. You think you could have taken him? You know?

I'm talking about arm wrestling. Maybe, you know. So I'm going to blame this on you. I don't know. Because you must have put out a vibe or something. I didn't. No, you took your shirt off. I didn't. No, I didn't take my shirt off. You said you kind of showed it over the shoulder. No, just over the shoulder. And I had a very tasteful t-shirt on, just like the one I'm wearing tonight. But then you flexed for him.

Yeah, I know. I know. That's the first sign. But it wasn't a full, it was kind of like, ah, there it is. You know, it was just, I don't feel great about it. But what's interesting is you kind of distanced yourself and then he came back and then he came back. He came back. Yes, I wasn't, you know, yeah, pursuing that. And I think at that point he's thinking, okay, I'm not going to wrestle him, but I would like to touch his hand so we could at least arm wrestle him.

Anyway, so that was my, that was an encounter. I mean, I would take it as a compliment. Yeah, I did feel pretty decent about it. It lifted me up a little bit. Yeah. But it freaked me out a little bit too. I mean, Kalo, you know what I mean? It's a good thing. Yeah. And then I started feeling bad. I started thinking, he probably has no one. It's around the holidays. Probably has nobody. You know? And...

You're such a giving people person. I'm surprised you actually didn't arm wrestle just because you're such a pleaser. I probably didn't. I don't think I gave my number. I don't think I did. I don't think I did. That's pretty good. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Of course not. What? That's a Seinfeld thing. I'm always going to shut that down. I'm always going to shut it down. It's a Seinfeld thing. I'll shut it down. Seinfeld's a show. It was on NBC years ago. I know. Yeah.

Jerry Seinfeld, the comedian, was in it. It does remind me of a time when we were in Salt Lake City, though. I don't know if we should tell that story or not. Tell it. Why not? You and those two guys? I mean, it isn't anything other than this was a long time ago. Very long time ago. And we used to, you know, it's like we were in our phase of like, hey, let's play our show and then go have some fun. Let's go to a bar and we'll have a drink.

So we had heard, no, actually, I think it was Rich Redman said he saw a bar across the street from where we were playing. He's like, from what I understand, somebody told me today, this is where you need to go for after the show. It's where everybody hangs out. So we do our show. We go over there. There's a line to get in. We're like, oh, yeah, that's kind of hopping. So we were going in and we're going upstairs and we're like, God,

A lot of dudes here. I don't know. Sausage Fest. A lot of guys here tonight.

Why is there only guys here? And then there was a lot of guys there. A lot of guys. And then we realized there were only guys there. And they saw y'all walk in. And they saw us all walking with coiffed hair and our show clothes on. Yeah, we got our first drink for free. Those show clothes, that's a dead ringer. Those guys are just like us. Yeah, those show clothes. And again, not that there's anything wrong with that, we did take the first free drink and then we left. Yeah.

Most of us left. I don't know what Redmond did, but I'm kidding. Rich will kill me if he figures that. Strike that from the record, Jim. No, no, no, no. We didn't see him for about a month, but Rich came home late. I mean, I don't know when he came home. I mean, that's good, Kalo.

What do you mean? What do you mean? You wrote it out. No, I didn't ride it out. Let's be clear. It was touch and go. No, it wasn't. Oh my God. Nope. Wasn't, wasn't touching go. Anyway, I don't even know where you go to that from. Well, let's talk about a Keystone Pipeline.

Wow. Just right to another story? Yeah, just cold turkey right into it. Just go to it. One pipeline to another. One pipeline to another. Speaking of pipelines. I think, yeah, Neil was talking about it, right? Trump's getting that going again, trying to get it approved and everything, which will help the economy and energy and things like that, right? It's a positive thing. Do you have something to say about the Keystone Pipeline?

Well, I didn't know if Neil started. No, you're talking about when you were out here, we were playing golf. No, you were playing golf. Well, yeah. You had some guests out here. We had some guests. It was a benefit. And I don't think, were we on the same scramble team or were you ahead of me, right? So anyway, so we're with these guys. But they're replacing the gas line, the huge line that runs through this whole property. It's huge. It's gigantic. Yeah.

Yeah, and I didn't really know. I just knew that it was a big line. That was all I knew. Huge, right? And so these guys, we were on the second hole for us, which actually was hole... 10. Yeah, it was actually our first hole. So we're on the green, and we're going between 10 and 11. And there's a huge pipe. To me, it wasn't a gas line. It was huge. And so the guy said, man, what's that right there? And I said...

I said, what? That's Keystone Pipeline. And they said, for real? I thought they closed that down and everything. I said, that's what I thought too. And I said, but it's running right through here. So the developer here said, he said, screw it. They're taking pictures sitting on it.

No. I said, there she is, boys. They were up there, and I was taking pictures. They were taking pictures, and I was sending it to them later. Wait a minute. Are you being serious? Yes. Are these grown men? Yes. And then later, I told Neil, I said, well, I showed those guys. I said, they had time in their lives. I showed them the Keystone Pipeline and everything. He goes, Keystone Pipeline? Neil said, you didn't say that, did you? I said, yeah. He goes, what?

That's the colonial pipeline. That's brilliant. And so I do that night. I'm like, hey, guys, I might have had a small...

They're taking pictures of us. They've already sent it to their family and all their friends, and it looks like it made a tiny mistake. Hold on. So did you actually think it was a Keystone Pipeline? There she is, boys. I thought that you were BSing them. No, I didn't know. With full... You thought the Keystone Pipeline...

Ran right through the neighborhood here. Possibly. Yep. Kalo. Kalo. You're a smart individual. It's a long pipeline. It's a long pipeline. You're kidding. You didn't think that. No, I did. That's what I told him. You thought the Keystone Pipeline was running through down here? Somebody told me that, or I heard it, or I misheard it. I thought it was a funnier story. You telling them because you knew it wasn't. No, I really thought it was. Well, I'm sorry, guys. I like the segue from the vitamin story. I like the way I thought about it better. Me too. Like you were messing with him.

Maybe I was. I don't know what to believe. That's amazing. Oh my God. Anyway. The T-cell pipeline. Yeah. Who knew? Who knew? I'm not an old guy. Hey guys, I do need to ask you this because I think it's serious. Okay. Cobb's getting serious. Uh-oh. Everybody, everybody's... That might stick. I don't know. It may or may not. It's stuck, dude. It may or may not. I shook out some info there, Cobb. I'm going to send you an email later tonight. You do need to report to me

Five things you've done in the last week. Okay. Nice. Okay. All right. Okay. Why are people getting mad about that anyway? Anybody that doesn't know Elon. Here's what I'm going to say. For all the federal employees. Just say five things you've done in the last week. I had a conversation this morning with my neighbor.

which is rare because i have good neighbors but i don't like to get too close to the neighbors yeah i know well anyway that's okay they're good people anyway the neighbors directly across the street are really good people they're you know um oh yeah they do and i gave them some cash swag and you know they're they love the podcast and we were talking about some of the stuff and i said you know here's what gets me

The great thing about this country is that every four years, you get to go out and vote for who you want to be president. Let your voice be heard. What we need to do is for everybody to go out and vote and vote who you want to vote for. That's great. But when the results are in and you've got a president for four years, that's what it's going to be. And by the way, root for your president, no matter who it is. It's great. But just when whoever it is gets elected...

It's time to like somewhat come together. It's, it's, we can't last four years. You know, look, when Biden was in, I, by no means was I as Biden fan by no means. However, I still respect the presidency. And you want the country to do well, no matter what everybody. Yeah. If, if, you know, we want it to do well, we don't want it to fail.

or things to be bad. I just feel like we all need to get back to that where, like, go out and vote, but if it doesn't go your way, you got to move on. Can I tell you something? You were talking about cash swag, and we're talking about our friend Cash Patel, who's now the new FBI director, which we're proud of him, and we're thankful he's there. So I didn't even realize just yesterday I had the sweatshirt on. It says fight with cash. I didn't even realize I had it on. I don't even think about it. I...

it's going to sound whatever, but I've been trying to think about an addition to the house, just doing a little whatever man cave. Where are you going to do it? Off your other man cave? Yeah, off the other man cave. Second man cave. This is for you. The grown man cave. Just in case you need a place to sleep. Like a crying room? Yeah. Anyway, so the guy, the contractor comes over and I go to meet him and he looks at me and he goes,

He looks at my sweatshirt. He looks at the side and says, don't tread on me. It's that thing. And he goes, he just gives me one of those. Well, and immediately for those of you listening, the man cave. Are you serious? Oh, I'm serious. The man cave. That's what I mean. He didn't like it. He didn't like your shirt, bro. When I say he didn't like it, it was the end of the, it was the end of the discussion. And that dude swings a hammer. Yeah.

I know. I was actually surprised. Whoever wrote that. I was actually surprised, but he gave me an up and down. And I was like, oh, I actually looked. I was like, oh, really? And it was the end of it. Wow. That's what I'm talking about. That's amazing. This is so ridiculous. You know, everybody's got to write as an American writer.

To vote who they want to vote for, think how they want to think. Absolutely. The days of people feeling like it's okay to do that to you are over. And he's turning down money, a job. It's like, I don't even get that. I would never hire a liberal to do an audition on my house, ever. Well, apparently they wouldn't hire a conservative. I would never hire a liberal.

Who supposedly swings a hammer or would never do it. Now, one reason why. Like, why wouldn't you hire a liberal? Let's say they're the best. Well, this dude right here has got to be. That's a good bit. Why wouldn't you hire a liberal? Let's say they're the best. This dude right here, I mean, I'm like, he's got to be the only freaking lib liberal.

contractor in america i was talking about i really was i'm surprised too because it's such a blue collar yeah you know i just find it ridiculous that look it's like when someone wears a you know a hat the red hat what do this is america it's this is america i'm sorry you know really bizarre like if you didn't vote for trump

I'm sorry that your side didn't win, but it's time to like, okay, well, I'm not sorry. Yeah. But if you're them, we'll get them next time. Like do, I mean, all I'm really seeing is a whole bunch of crying far left libs. And it's like, my advice to them is to,

I wouldn't focus so much on Trump and Elon and cash and everyone that you don't like, Christine Noem and everyone that's rubbing you wrong. I would, I would concentrate on who do you have coming up in four years? Yeah. Cause they don't have an answer for it still. They're still, they're still focused on what they can't change, what they don't like. So focus on how to figure out, uh,

how you lost if you, if you, if you want to win. I don't know. I'm, I'm confused by them. Yeah. Well, you do have to think it's the left would say to your point of saying, saying, Hey, you know, you know, your, your person didn't win. So just kind of pray for them and get them in four years. They would say, it's easy for us to say that because our team won. Right. But no,

None of us were hoping that Biden did bad or Obama did bad. I wasn't thinking about that. Like my guy didn't win, but I was praying for that president. I want, I want, I want American. Oh, my family. There's your difference right there. But there's the difference. But their teams won more than our team in the last 20 years. So,

They had a little dynasty going. A little Pats dynasty going. Had a little Alabama going for a while. A little Saban. Looks like that's over. See how they compared your football team to Alabama. They're putting out the Alabama thing on Netflix to build it back up because the season wasn't so good. Hey, what is it? What is it? It's really good. I mean, it's supposed to be really good. Have you seen it? No, I haven't seen it yet. It's on Fox Nation. Do you guys agree, though? Oh, totally agree. Seriously, it's getting old. It's like...

mainstream media and and everybody is like look you're just dividing it more a thousand percent and i don't know what i don't know if it's ever i hope it gets better i don't know if it's going i was hoping it would but maybe after things maybe the dust settles in six months or whatever but it just shows you what hate does somebody that's all it shows

If you fester hate, let it fester and fester and fester. Fester is a great word. I love that word, fester. You want me to be called fester? No. Uncle fester. Fester's not bad. I mean, I'll be glad. Ed, don't you even think fester's going to work? Fester or festus?

I'd rather Festus than Fester. But if you let hate fester and it just, and it just, and you don't, you don't try to, I agree. Snowballs. Oh yeah, it does. And it just builds up and you become this fricking shell of a person. That's classic thrash talk. Like in a good way. Cause I don't think, I think people, that's what I'm talking about though. Like none of us, the two sides don't agree when Biden was in, look, he didn't love it. It wasn't great. There was some terrible decisions. Um,

But look, everybody needs to pull for everybody at the end of the day. I agree. And if you won't take the time to learn what's going on, there's so much hate in their hearts and everything else. They won't take the time to, you know what? Let's look at what he's doing or what he's trying to do to the country. They won't even take the time to do it. They're done. It's over. I will admit to this. So I...

I look at Fox News. I also look at CNN and I say, okay, well, here's the two sides. Generally, it lies in the middle, like both sides. But I look at both sides of the news. I look at both sides and make sure I'm not missing something. They would never do that. Every time I've tried to have a rational conversation with a far left person, you cannot reason with them. You can't get them to even listen to you.

I don't know what to tell them. Well, it's because, and the reason is because they look at you or me or Neil or Kurt, whoever's talking as a dumb ass redneck. And they don't, sometimes it's just the way we talk.

It's not what we say, it's how we say it. And they just listen to your dialect and where you're from. That's right. You should have talked to that guy in that vitamin store. He really knows something. Hey, when you were in that vitamin store, you should have talked like that right there. No, that would have been worse. He might have been turned on by it. No, that would have been the deliverance style. I've been Ned Beatty. M-I-C-A, Redneck, South Tennessee, Bicep. Maybe what it was was what you were buying.

what are you buying well what were you looking at what kind of are you buying testosterone or no just like a pre-workout drink blue pill you know just a little white wine or something oh my gosh i don't even know oh yeah now the second half of this conversation has been fantastic it actually i want to thank y'all it's been interesting i really do it hasn't been interesting we do need to make sure everybody knows first of all uh

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