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We had some run-ins with Mark before. Safe to say they were not good enough to post. But we figured as the podcast is coming to an end next week, we would post this one for you all to watch. Please be advised that the...

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Well, here it is, everybody. The Markiplier episode. Welcome to Chuckle Sandwich. Hi, Mark. Hey, Mark. Did it start? Yeah, no, we're going. All right, cool. It's great to have you back. For the third time. Yeah. On the... Chuckle Sandwich. On Chuckle Sandwich podcast. That's our podcast.

You have piercing eyes. I mean, Mark is here on the pod for the third time. Here we go. We and it's so great. I'm so glad. It's pleasant. I'm pleased to have you here right now. Markiplier on Chuckle Sandwich. How is the drive? The drive?

Did you want to talk about LA traffic? Okay. Well, I mean, it could be better. I'm sorry he did that. I'll talk about it. It's not going to show up anyway. No one's going to see it, so what does it matter? Well, we were hoping this one would be good that we could post. Yeah. We really like to post this one. We're committed, Mark. We are committed to making sure this goes out in the world.

I mean, you know, what's in the past is in the past, you know? Right. We'll set our eyes forward. We'll forget. We'll let bygones be bygones. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. I came up with a couple questions if we want to start that segment. That would be great. That's what they do on Podcast. Let's start it. This is something, you know. Do you have like intro music or something? Not currently. I mean, we usually edit that in.

You should go send in the... Do you want to hear it? Yeah, just let me know when we're ready to go, because I don't... I just... I need to get the energy up. We're going. We're going, man. We are here. Markiplier is on the podcast. Everyone? Hello. Yes! And we're so happy to have you here. And we have questions for you. And Mark, I was...

Ever since I saw... - Let me interrupt you. - Okay. - I just wanted to say thank you, both of you, for... It's great to have an opportunity to reinvent who you are and reintroduce yourself, 'cause there's no opportunity for a second introduction. - Absolutely. - There's a saying about that. - Mm-hmm. - I think everyone deserves a second chance. - Or a third. I mean, there's some... As long as forgiveness exists, chances also do. - We don't need to forgive.

Oh, okay. Anyway, yeah, questions? Yeah, this is something that I've been thinking about ever since I saw you on my computer for the first time back in, I think it was 2013 with FNAF. FNAF? Yeah, I'm sorry, Five Nights at Freddy's. Oh.

And I was just watching the videos and I was like, man, this guy, he really seems like he knows what he's doing, you know? And as I followed you over the past decade, really, it's only just grown in my mind. And I can't help but ask, Mark, where do you get your ideas from? From playing Five Nights at Freddy's? Well, like, okay, so like say an idea comes to

Up in your head? Like, what happens before that? Like, how do you... Before I have the idea to make... Like, say I want to play Five Nights at Freddy's, right? Where does that come from? How do you think that? I don't just...

I don't just play Five Nights at Freddy's. I do a lot of other things. Well, yeah, that's why I said ideas. But you said about Five Nights at Freddy's. I was using that as an example, sir. You should have just clarified more than Five Nights at Freddy's. He does more than that. When you think of like, okay, let's use Iron Lung as an example, your movie, right? Where does that idea come from? What? Where does that idea come from? What? What?

Iron Long's a game? Yeah, it's a game. What's... You're a fucking idiot, dude. Try it. The movie's not... What's the movie called? No, it's... It is... Oh. It's a game. It's a game. It's online and then I click on it and then I download it and then I play it and then I'm done. That's where the idea comes from. Yeah, it's not even an idea. Okay. It's just, you know... What made you like... It's a job. I... Some... Yeah, I do it. I've been doing it full time for like five years.

I just actually just passed the five-year mark. Mark. He's usually never like this. You guys seem really nervous. I... No. Mark. Complier. No. We are professionals. This is... We've been doing this for four years. Can you... Okay. What? We've been doing this four years. We are experienced at this. And we...

and you're and you know mark you're a titan of the industry yeah yeah cool yeah thanks a lot of people are like what's he where's mark what's he gonna do yeah uh where's mark sir is that the question well uh no well i mean the the question is the question that i was gonna ask you is like

I mean, where does it... I mean, we know where Mark and... But where does Mark and... Where does he go? Where do I die? Well... I hope that never happens. We hope you never die. It's gonna happen to everyone. But we hope... Yeah, no, that was great. We hope you never die, though. We don't ever want you to die, Mark. I'm gonna. We can't stop that. That's true. Yeah, you're gonna. Yeah, you're gonna die.

You seemed more sure about that one than you seemed with him. I don't know. He seems like he's got life left in his eyes. Unless it's tears. Are you crying? I'm not. I'm not. I'm sorry. I have allergies. We've... So, yeah, I mean, I hope that when I die that it's something heroic. It'd be a shame if it was boring or something like that. A Viking's death.

I don't want to be at war. That's stupid. That's stupid. Maybe like an alien invasion or something. Oh, okay. That'd be nice. Hell yeah. Or like a heart attack or something. That's how my grandpas did it. I've had one before. Really? Yeah. Like a real one? Yeah. You had a heart attack? Yeah. Why? Come on. Ask my heart. I don't know. Actually, no. I got a real heart. I got a real reason right here. Sorry. Sure.

Sir, look I was drinking I can't drink right cuz I'm I'm half Korean and I I discovered this by having a heart attack, right? Yeah, so I was You're half Korean, yeah, so I I can't drink oh, yeah, cuz um, yeah, I'm saving thing is is that it What what aspect of being Korean?

Is that what what is that? Well, I don't drink they don't in Korea. No, dude. It's illegal No, Cree is like the second highest consuming alcohol per capita company in the world country in the world But half of the population has a genetic defect where they can't break down Alcohol properly. I think this is a Asian flush. Yeah, that's probably what makes it so fun Go on. No, I want to hear the end of this thought well, I

Because, like, if you can't break it down and it stays in your system, that means you get more time with it. Yeah. Right? It's so fun. Yeah. But, I mean, not for you because you had a heart attack because of it.

Yeah, well, alcohol is broken down in two stage process. So first, alcohol is broken down to acetaldehyde, which is actually a carcinogen and a poison. Then that's broken down into sugar and water. So what is the problem in this deficient enzyme is the second stage of the process doesn't

Happen as quickly as it should so that byproduct acetaldehyde builds up in your system and that can cause a lot of issues cause flushing It's more of a like an inflammation reaction kind of like an allergic thing. It's actually quite unpleasant. It's not fun It's not fun for him to try it. Yeah, I'm sorry. So, um, sorry I said the thing about Koreans. What did you say about Koreans? No, that it was illegal to drink. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. Okay. So, I mean

there's been so many mark hairs over the years hair hair from markiplier mark markiplier has so many hair do's right now you've got long hair you used to have short hair are we ever going to see red hair markiplier again i caught one oh you sure that's mine anyway um yeah this is yeah i had um i had dyed hair a long time ago at this point it's

That's about seven years ago now. Like that one, that one with the bottom left. That, that, let's say that hair thing is so long ago it was before you even were doing content. So it's like a lifetime ago. Wow. Yeah. Uh, I don't mean to, I don't mean to correct you, but I have been doing content since I was like 11.

Were you? Yes. Were you really? Yes, but not professionally. Like as a job? No, not as a job. You had a camera? I had a camera. Hey, Mom, look at me. I had a camera. I was running. Well, here's what me and my buddy would do. We'd get together, and we'd film with my daddy's webcam, and we'd run around and do psh, psh, psh, and we'd

Photoshop a single frame of a muzzle flare in because we saw this Freddie W video that was really cool. Yeah. Called Claymores, where he sits on a Claymores down and he shoots people. And I was like, oh, yeah, we should do that. But that didn't start making money until like 2019. But that's like, you know, like I was still doing it. You were 11 in 2019? No, I was 19.

I was 19 and 20 in 2019.

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Once again, that's code chuckle at bird dogs.com. I'm saying that I was before that, like when I started, I was 11 and I, it took me like eight years for me to start making money. So if you started at when you were 11, what year was that? 2011. So you've been doing content longer than me. Really? No.

Who's ready to play some Dungeons & Dragons? Charlie! No, no, no, this is- God! I'm fucking sorry guys, I'm sorry. Charlie. Oh shit. This is... Charlie, tomorrow. Tomorrow is Dungeons & Dra- no, it's tomorrow. You know, you came here, that doesn't make me violate the restraining order, okay?

Like I didn't want to be in this distance, you came here, alright? Charlie, no, he has a restraining order on me. 'Cause he's a pussy. What did you do to him? I'm not legally obligated to say, alright? Charlie, Charlie. Charlie, I'm telling you right now, give us this chance right now. We know what happened last time, give us this chance now.

Just- Just- Okay, just- Charlie, please- Please, oh- Charlie's gotta go. We gotta- Tucker, get him out of here. Tucker, get him out of here. You're playing it! You're playing it! You made a character with me! You love it! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys! Guys

Hi. You're acting like this is the first time. No, no, we- but- but- I'm sorry, I really- I just- That's two, that's two, that's two! Just get the- the dice. Ow, fuck! Oh shit. You stupid fuck- Ow! Ow, my ass! This is... fucking shit, dude. Yeah, man, okay? I just thought today was like- we were gonna have fun. Oh. God, now I'm sitting on dice. You got me sitting on a D20, you fucking idiot. I hear you were- Playing your stupid nerd shit. You look ridiculous.

You look ridiculous. You would think it was cool if it was tomorrow. Okay. And what happened to you? You were in an iron lung, great, you got better. I'm not allowed to talk to him. Charlie, I'm sorry. And he's bringing up the movie now too. You know he can't talk about the movie. There's a movie? Get out of here, what are you doing here? I'm enjoying, I'm loving the vibes. Yeah, they could just zoom in here and that doesn't exist.

Dude, now you're getting cut out of the fucking Markiplier part. I'm so sorry. No, I don't want to be in the fucking shot. I hope it's a really slow crop that it's like slowly punching. So, Mark. Dude, so Mark, you got a new movie coming out. And it's going to be good. You're working hard on it. Of course it's going to be good. It's going to be incredible. Yeah. It's...

Any challenges along the way? So many, yeah, it's a movie. Damn, that's so true. Um... You... Um... Charlie, you gotta get out of here! Dude, get him the fuck- I'm sorry. I'm not even cropped in. I'm not even cropped in. Dude, you gotta get the dice. We'll see you tomorrow. Please. Take the dice. Take your stupid dice. Good. You're scaring the dog. He's shaking. Okay, go play Google for us.

Jesus Christ. He's gonna call the cops again. I'm sorry. He's gonna call the cops. This isn't how I wanted this to go. I don't think this is how any of us wanted this to go. You think it was better before? I'm not on his show. You left. Markiplier doesn't want you here, and we don't want you here. It's over. You gotta get over it. That's a term of endearment. And you're gone. And you're ten feet under. Are you praying?

Um, so I think that uh... Okay, no we're set. We're set. We're set. We're set. We're gonna reset. We're gonna reset. Hey Charlie, can we... Pay attention! She's still on the... What is he doing? We can't even see what you're doing, man. It's not even on the television. I'm using the... I'm sorry, man. I got another... I have another question. Okay? Did you have one before? I... Yeah, the ideas thing. Yeah, alright. What's that?

Not? No. Okay. But go for it, yeah. It's cool. Um... Charlie. Charlie. I had it, and now you just took me out of attack. I'm sorry, he's pulling up Dark Applier. This is what... If everyone opened their eyes for a second and they looked at you, this is what they'd... We don't think that you're evil. They'd say...

Well, all right. I'm responding to you and legally not to him. Okay. He's not evil. Misunderstood more than anything. He's misunderstood. Okay. Yeah. There's a deeper layer in there. There's like several different inspirations that I draw for this character. He's very passionate about it. Yeah. Yeah. He's not evil. His eyes are just on me. Don't try to sell this to me. It's just on me. Don't try to sell this to me. I'm not.

Charlie, you're scaring the dog. 'Cause he's got- he has a little mind and it is still more impressive. And I can still teach this guy that that is a bad man. Okay, Charlie, you've made your point. We can talk about it another time. Can somebody get him out of here? We'll see you tomorrow, man. We'll see you tomorrow. We'll see you tomorrow. You will see me tomorrow. And you'll see me tonight too, 'cause I'm sleeping in the studio. Okay, you can, but we- Okay! Just give us this chance. I'm sleeping here! We need this chance, Charlie. It's our third try, please. Hey, hey! Poopy break!

Poopy. Oh poopy sick. I do I do have to go I do actually have to go. Okay, mark mark. We're so you we're so sorry Which one? We're so sorry that we did not he was supposed to come tomorrow. I'm sorry. I'm sorry I'd like it's just like the evidence is here. It's not my fault. Okay, you're right. It isn't your fault It was net you didn't do anything. Okay. I got a question. We're back. We're back question. We're back. Uh

Okay, so at some point over the past 10 years, you decided to get hot. What inspired that and how did you do it? Hot to plier.

A lot of it's the hair. Get out of here! Stop! You can't stop! Go! Go! No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

Excuse me. Please. Oh, okay. Will you? Can you just scoop me up? No, Juno likes me more. Juno likes me more. Give me Juno. And not you. And not you. Why don't we see what the dog thinks of Mark? Put Juno. No. Put Juno right here. Just please.

Get him. What do you mean get him? Juno! Juno! Juno! Stop trying to sic the dog on Markiplier, please. Juno! Juno! Oh. Okay. Okay. That's right. Thank you. Thank- Charlie! Oh my god. Dude, it's over. It's a- And your love fell off. Look how dumb you look. Okay.

Tucker yeah, I'm on it. Use your Marines mcmahon's in the Marines so he has the McMap You got a mullet you got all la on me You're not better than me you're not no you

multiple factors, right? Both genetics and, you know, all about just self-care and self-love. I find that if you hate yourself, you become ugly. Right. Right. Yeah. Yes. If you hate yourself, you become ugly? Yeah, that's true. And so how, and you love yourself. I love me. Yeah? Okay. What do you love most about you? I mean, isn't it obvious?

I would hope it would- I want it to be so- what- what? Isn't it obvious? Your... luscious locks? No. Ah, fuck. Your... your... your work ethic. It's not a personality thing. Your ears. You got nice ears. He's got nice ears. He does have nice ears. Everybody says that about- Alright, whatever. I did research beforehand. I've seen articles. Vogue. Deadline.

Politico. They're all saying the Blaze. The Blaze. The Sun. They're all saying, what's this guy's ear routine? What's his ear routine? What's he doing with those ears? This is stupid. I don't...

This is not like when he... I know we didn't talk about this. When we invited him on, we're not going to talk about his ears. We had a conversation about this. There's a lot. He's just like us. Okay. Except with incredibly beautiful ears. I'm not like you guys. Ridiculous that he would mention that.

Yeah. So, but just so, just so I know what you were implying, but just so everyone else knows. Yeah. What do you like the most about yourself? What? The thing you like the most about yourself is? The thing that you like the most about yourself is? Look.

As much as I would like to go on and on about myself, I do want to leave people with the impression that the wisdom that I impart on them is far more important than my looks. My extremely good looks. Right. No. Yeah. You're beautiful, but you have a beautiful mind. And it's not about the work ethic either. It's about... Fuck the work ethic. It's about the...

It's a puzzle of thought process that goes on in my head, you know? The absolute maze of intellect. - Yeah, cacophony of equations. - Don't try to use big words. - I'm sorry. That's my bad. - You can use small words if you want. - Some would say smart mind big. - Smart mind big, Markiplier have smart mind. Markiplier's smartest-- - Use three syllable words only. - Okay, that's confusing. Oh my God.

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Welcome, Mark, to Trouble Sandwich. Thank you. We are so excited to have you on. Actually, we are so excited to have you on. We're not afraid of you. Well, a little bit. Maybe you should be a little bit. A little bit. A little bit. A little bit. It was definitely a fun mystery getting you

you on of me sending this to just a vague email and then having you respond and it was like got it i'll be there and like i was like i was like he's incredible he's incredible i literally i email so succinctly that people think i am incredibly rude but that's because i usually in two seconds i'm like i have to respond to this or i'll forget that's exactly what i thought it was i thought it was just like boom boom and i was like yes okay we got it yeah no i was but it was like

sort of, it was like this, since you've been sort of like this guest that we've wanted, we were like, oh, what if we got Mark on? So like when in the process of getting you scheduled, I was just like, it was part of the mystique of it. You okay? Yeah, there's a hair in my mouth.

So he's also just kind of like this. Every time you open your lips, another one of the dog's hairs just goes... It's like it's going in to replace its spot. Juno is freaking... She's lovely, but oh my God. Yeah. Yeah. I don't even know if this is a guy or a girl. It's a girl.

- It was funny about this. Some people, I'm pretty sure out in the YouTube sphere, some people probably think that I'm so busy and unapproachable, but I joke about this with Ethan all the time is like, man, I sure wish people would ask me to do things. - Really? - But everyone was always like, ah, Mark's probably busy. I don't want to bother him. Meanwhile, I am busy a lot of the time, but most of the time I'm just like, I'd really like to do something. - When was the last time you came on a podcast?

When was the last time? I don't even know. You were on Impulsive two years ago. Yeah, that was probably the last time. Really? This is your first podcast appearance other than Distractable in two years? Yeah. Wow. That's pretty hype.

That's good. It's pretty hot. Yeah. That's good. But it's mostly just because everyone just assumes I'm always so busy. That's so funny. I'll try to make time. Yeah. That's like reach out to Markiplier. No. Everyone. Oh. Okay. And here's his email on screen. Oh. Yeah. Um.

Well, I mean something I'm I that we definitely couldn't have achieved in that previous state that I definitely want to talk about is the fact that you've been working on your iron lung movie and as a little film school nerd myself, I just want to hear about like how I mean, how did that go? I mean like well, I mean it was

It was really fun. The actual shoot of it was, you know, a little more rushed than it should have been. It was down to the location. We were filming in a soundstage, but it's like we only had that soundstage for a little bit and we were already like pushing up against it. I would have loved another week there. It was not so much about the budget of just like having people there. It was like literally the location. Right. Because we needed a specific place because we had to...

you know, filming in Austin, there's only so many sound stages. Yeah. We needed to basically, the whole set needed to be mounted into the concrete floor because it was... At this point, I've been so secretive about it. Like, we did the whole thing on what's called a NACMO, right? Okay. A NACMO, I don't know what the acronym's for, but it's a big motion control rig that you can put, like,

you know, something on it and it'll move. It'll move really, really fast and be able... It can throw... So you can build up a set within the confines of the NACMO and that can... Basically on top of it. Okay. And so you can get motion and that way you can have controlled programmable motion if you need it for certain moments. Like a big flight simulator? Not that. Look up NACMO, N-A-C-M-O.

N-A-C-M-O. Yeah, I worded it to him when he, because he didn't hear the moment. You searched nacho? No, he searched Milo. Nacho motion?

Uh, no, look up Nakmo, just Nakmo motion control rig. Motion control rig. Yeah, this thing is way bigger than you think it is. Yeah, that one top left. Wow. That's a smaller version of what we had. Oh, so you had one that was like maybe twice as... They make a Minimo, a Nakmo, and then the Max. Megamo. The Megamo or something like that. And it's crazy. Like that thing is nuts. That's wild. And so...

It was a really fun shoot and it happened oh so long ago in my mind now. And it's just been a process of, you know, working on it ever since. Man. So this is your first, it's a feature. And this is your first, your directing debut. Technically, I suppose, yeah. Nice. Wow. I mean, and with the, I mean, how did,

I guess I'm curious about like the, the, like in your head, like when, what was that moment? Like when you decided, okay, I'm going to, I'm going to go out and I'm going to make a feature. Like what, what led to that decision of like.

kind of take because it is a feature is such an investment and like such a you're gonna pour your whole fucking soul into something like this like I don't know I mean it with space and heist before that they're not features in a technical sense but you know from a production standpoint it's extremely similar right um the only difference is like you know linear narrative versus branching narrative is yeah someone's first person one's like you know obviously traditionally shot um

with this one, like the movie was just like a natural progression of what I wanted to do anyway. And it's, um, it's just kind of a, uh, something that I guess really can teach you a lot. Cause that's, that's what I do everything for is I do it to learn something. And so with the movie, it's like, there were skills in there that I did not know. And I knew that I could progress in them. Um, and it seemed like it contained enough idea that it wouldn't like

it wouldn't explode in terms of complexity, which it did inevitably. But yeah, that's all it is. Yeah, I feel like a lot of times in my experience with directing,

like when i'm working on a project it turns into like this this branching like tree of like oh but what if we did this oh my what do you think we could get something like that and it's like that conversation is and it's exciting but then it's also it's it can it can balloon a little bit yeah it definitely does yeah well like are you comfortable saying like some of these like these things that you learned that you didn't think that like um that surprised you

So there's probably a couple different filming styles. Not to get, I don't know if you guys want to go too into the weeds of like filmmaking nerd-domer or something like that. I got like 10 more stupid questions if you want to. I do kind of want to hear a little bit of this, of the 10 films. Let's let Ted have his moment. I need a, I love it.

it i love it mark so for me with the actually the past projects i i like discovery while you're filming you know you have your script and you have your your plan your shot list and you're like okay we're gonna do this right then you discover something on set and it's really nice weirdly with the branching narrative there is not room for discovery because they have to be so distinct occasionally you can but it if you do something it'll ripple yeah because it's a

pre-planned route, even though there's multiple of them. So you kind of have less discovery than you really would think. With a feature, you have so much discovery and I always love that part of it. And it's really bad for a schedule because if you discover something like,

say the NACMO was actually a discovery before we started filming. Oh, okay. We had a different plan altogether for it, for motion and stuff like that. And when we realized, when I was told about this by the special effects personnel on set, the practical special effects personnel, that they had used this before on previous features that they worked on, I never even knew it existed.

Yeah. But then as soon as I looked at it, I was like, that makes the movie that makes it, can we get it? Right. And it just so happened that yes, we could. Um, and so this changed everything, changed the location because we had to get a floor that we could literally bolt into, um, to mount it because it's so much weight being thrown around. We had to make, I had to change like accommodations for the script because it has weight limits. It has a very high weight limit, but it,

It does have a weight limit. So you have to kind of like think about, okay, the entire set design has to be thought around this thing. The structural integrity of the set has to be thought around this thing and the forces it's going to subject to it. Because that thing can move at half a G of acceleration in pretty much any direction. That's crazy. That's like a NASA machine, basically. It is.

It is ridiculous. Why not just like shake the camera around a little bit? So there's one out of nine. No, no, no. He's not wrong because there are many times, you know, you can't always fire this up because sometimes like you need to prepare for it. You need to lock it down. You clear the set around it. You like get out of there. It's up off the ground. You got to get.

in there and you can't just take the set off and on it. It's bolted into that thing too. So it's like really permanent. So when we couldn't run it for whatever reason, we were speed, we had what we were called team NACMO.

Right? So that was nine people. Team NACMO. They all wear their shirts. We had a shirt made for Team NACMO. That's awesome. Oh, man. So nice to be able to. I mean, I know I'm not probably not supposed to talk about this, but I have been holding back on so many stories. Yeah.

of this filming process that I've been yearning to tell. And like these things don't spoil the story at all, but it's fun to talk about the fact that we had an ACMO and they were like, well, we need something. Everybody get on. Yeah. I mean, that's what's so great about like filmmaking is like, there's so many times that you would need to like Jerry rig some, some absurd nonsense and create a solution. I mean, it's pretty much built into the veins of the grip department of like,

That's the thing. That's wild. Yeah. That's not even as fast as it can go. That's slow. Really? They both did a helicopter to it? Yeah. And so the whole thing with Iron Lung is that it's at least the story of the game, as far as I know, is it's about...

this guy who's a prisoner on this sort of submarine on a far off, like on the Europa was it? Or like some sort of... Basically, Quiet Rapture, all planets and all stars are gone. So it's just like barren, empty, rocky moons. Right. And it just so happens to be an ocean of blood on one. Right. It's like the end of the universe. Like, what's that word? Heat death. Yeah, heat death entropy has occurred. And they call it the Quiet Rapture. Wow.

Wow. That's, as a base concept, is so... As opposed to the Jesus one. Yeah, the loud rapture. That's a loud light with a lot of lights and a lot of going to heaven. This is cool even for me because I, like I said, I mean, I grew up watching kind of a more homebrew version through Freddie W. and Corridor Digital. I mean, me and Ted kind of watched the same exact shit, and he decided to do the actual filmmaking route while I kind of...

made reaction videos. - That's fair, that's how I started, not reaction videos, but I tried to do, same thing, I watched Freddy W in Corridor. Have you hung out with the Corridor guys? - I have not, I think I'd be scared to. We did a podcast with Freddy. - Yeah, we had Freddy on. - Which was amazing, but the Corridor guys, I haven't spoken to. - Oh, they're lovely, they're lovely. I did like a mini internship over there for a series. - I wanted to talk about that. - Oh, yeah. - You're washing their dishes? - Yeah.

Did that prepare you in any way for this movie? Did you take any of that knowledge? A tiny bit. The tiniest bit. I was having too much fun to actually sit down and learn anything. Because I went into it with being like, I really want to get a real good starter on visual effects and the process of doing it. Yeah.

And so that was the justification for me going over and working in their office. And then it was just like, we were goofing around and making videos all. And that was good too, because I don't usually do a lot of collab stuff. I usually just work on my own. And so being in another office and working with other people, that was really, really fun. And I do know a lot more about visual effects than I did before.

But mostly just because in the process of the past year, I've had to make a ton myself. The electrician I was telling you about this morning is actually for my render farm that I've been building. Render farm? I built a render farm, yeah. That's awesome. Yeah, yeah. It's ridiculous. What are you farming?

Render. Okay. Pictures, man. One at a time. Frames. It's really for simulations. Like, that's more than anything. But yeah, also renders as well. And simulations are still very complex to do. You have to distribute them across a lot of computers. It's basically server infrastructure. Gotta learn a lot there.

Oh my God. I get scared of even the process of setting up a NAS. So like that, I mean, that's crazy. Storage is a whole other beast too. I get scared. I had a hard drive failure like a couple weeks ago. With the film? Yeah.

Oh, that's horrifying. I had backups. I had tons of backups. But still, it was like the chance. Like, yeah, it set me back a few days because it's just transferring it back onto it or rebuilding the array that I had just like took me out. Right. So. So, I mean, I'm honestly even like the fact that you showed up because you're like in the midst of like that, like that zone right now where you're like locked in. Oh, no, it's fine.

He doesn't do anything. He just said it. I really am quite boring. Even though I'm working on this stuff, like, it is very boring. I wake up, I go to my computer, I putz around for an hour before I'm like, come on, let's go have a fucking work, man. And then I start at it and I putz around some more. How much time is spent between, like, the Markiplier stuff and then the directorial stuff? Right now, too much in this camp because...

I don't know, because I'm editing it and you know, I'm the only person really pushing it. I mean, there are people on my team that are pushing it, but it's like, it's my idea. And, you know, I brought it up. So it's like, it only feels right for me to carry it through. And also I love editing and I love that process. So it's just like, it's got to be a lot of self-motivation, but it's like, I also take the same approach to my YouTube.

Sure. I have a lot of editors, but I still, you know, upload to the thumbnails myself and I, I plan the schedule. And if I can't think about that, I can't do it. Even if the videos are there and ready, it's an ADHD thing. I totally understand. Task switching. I have to like, I'll,

when I work with editors, I'll have them do like 80% of the video. And then I have to come in and do like my little things. So I can like leave, just make sure it's all cutting into the exact moments that I want it to. Yeah. I get that. The good news about the YouTube side is I've been working with the Scott Lixian for so long. He's incredibly talented. And also just like,

he's like at this point in terms of youtube editing like i trust him implicitly i haven't reviewed a video in well you've been working on lichtian for like literally like 12 years or something like that pretty pretty early on like first year he made his first animation for me yeah that's awesome yeah it's been great super i'm very lucky to have him and the rest of my editors on the team yeah it gives me time to do shit like this yeah ah the quiet rapture that's that's that's effed up

You know, Mark, that's effed up. I didn't make it, but I did. Ask David, the developer of the game. Yeah, I mean, so this was... I guess I'm wondering, uh, fucking... Get it together, man. Get it together. I had a notion of a thought. This is ADHD over here. A notion of a thought, and then you just can't get it out. Like, was there more than one game that you had an interest in making, or did you always know it was like, I want to do Iron Lion? I mean, at first, you know...

I didn't really know what I would do. I just knew, yeah, I'll make a kind of single location-ish horror movie would be

probably what I'm looking for. Not because that genre is like my favorite, it's just because it's manageable. Sure. It seems like a target that I can hit. And something that I could carry on if I had to do a lot of stuff myself, I could probably do that. And so I tried to aim for something in that target. And so this one just seemed like a natural fit. And also when I reached out to David Szymanski, he was interested.

So that's also a big part of it, you know, I reach out to him being like "Hey, you ever want to make a movie?" He's like "Sure." "You want to make a movie with me?" Yeah, he's a cool guy. We worked a lot together on, you know, the script and like the story. 'Cause you know when he made the game he didn't really think too much about the bigger universe. So it's like we had to flesh a lot of that out. Oh, so you got to do a little bit of extra world building? Yeah, yeah. That's fun. Yeah, it was. It was very good. Oh, that's great.

Anyway, non-film stuff. Oh, yeah. Sorry, man. I'm just such a fucking nerd, man. I can't handle it. I have about $10 million. Whoa. Keeps going up. I, you, I, you have more. I'm assuming. At what point did,

Are you able, because I know you went to engineering school. I was a computer scientist. We were probably both very analytical, kind of left-brained when it comes to, you know, the future and uncertainty and all that. At what point are you able to be like, you know what? I'm good. I can focus more on the creative stuff instead of constantly working at the nine to five.

I pretty much only do the creative stuff, but that's also how I've been this entire time. I do everything in my power to not think of what I do as a business in any way. I don't like the business side of things, so I have other people that usually take care of stuff like that. But you can't avoid it sometimes.

For me, what I love about it is the process, the actual mind-numbing late night process of it. That to me is everything in making things. Business side is a side effect. It's the natural conclusion. It's what has to happen because with this kind of stuff and making YouTube content, the way that you do it is advertising and all that stuff you have to manage.

For me, it's always been all I care about is making things. All I want to do is make things. All I want to do is just like sit. I want to have as many reasons as I can to leap out of bed in the morning. That's what got me started in YouTube is just I was so excited that I could make something. It didn't matter what I made.

Right then it was like, I can make a Let's Play or I can make a compilation of my Let's Plays. Let's try it. So I would get out of bed because I didn't have anything like that up until that point in my life. So I've just been chasing that feeling ever since. Was there ever a moment in your career where you were like, ah, fuck, I don't really want it? Like, do you ever have a project that you were working on where it was like?

- Kind of rough. - Well, yeah, they're all rough. Yeah, they're all rough. It's all hard. It all sucks. Like, man, I tell you, when I was doing this month-long kind of solo excursion in Austin, I was doing pick up shots for this and I was getting some great stuff. There were days that were like the peak of the peak.

I was so happy. I was like, I never I could die right now. And all I would regret is that I couldn't do this a little more, you know, and then I would have days where it was like the lowest of the low. Nothing was going right. And I'm alone in a warehouse. Like, I'm not gonna lie. There were days where I broke down crying because I'm like, I felt just worse than I ever could possibly feel. I went whole day.

where nothing was right. Every single thing that I got wasn't working as soon as I tried in the edit. And I wasted an entire day doing nothing. And I was miserable the whole time because it was so hot and I was dying of sweat. Lowest of the low day. Thank you, Austin, Texas for that. In a warehouse with the sun beating. See, you were like, were you?

Literally by yourself for these pickup shots? Yeah. Wow. What were you shooting on? What were you shooting on? Like the camera? Red Raptor X. Yeah, it's very good. Yeah. But the lens is really what it's all about.

Yeah, I mean, there's some expensive lenses. I used to work at a camera rental house in Atwater Village. And one time I had to transport some lenses and they were like, I think they were like Canon K35s. They shot the Handmaid's Tale on those.

These are $200,000, $250,000 lenses. And they made me go prove my car insurance so I could drive it from that place to Alan Gordon. And it was in my little, it's out front, my 2002 Toyota Tacoma. That thing's a piece of shit and always will be. So I was driving and I was like,

And I think it was right on the streets of Los Angeles. Yeah. Yeah. But so what do you know what lenses offhand that you shot? Yeah. Yeah. They're Minolta Recors. So they're they're vintage lenses from the 70s. And they were only recently rehoused for the first time just prior to us filming this movie. So we were one of the first features that actually shot on them. I fell in love with them immediately. Immediately. I was never a lens guy before that.

But then I was like, I got really down it because I, you know, I got to know my DP a lot more. And so he's big on this kind of like vintage look. And I was never like, what is the difference? And then I saw, you know, what we were getting out like, oh, that's why. Yeah, once it gets to that level of like fidelity with like the cameras and stuff, I mean, it just gets ridiculous. So part of the past years is me learning a lot more about actual the process.

art of filmmaking, the actual like finding of those frames, the balancing of lighting and like the, the, the really engaging images that you can make. Um, cause before I thought I had was like, yeah, I know my way around the camera. I've done tons of stuff. I didn't know shit when it came down to like actual cinema. Um, and so, you know, I, I, I,

you know, I rented this a few times and then I had rented it so much that I ended up paying more in rentals than the camera cost itself. So then I bought, I was like, okay, I'm gonna make an investment. I'm gonna use it for a future. I bought the Raptor before the X version came out, two weeks before it came out. I was so mad. And then I went to, this is a whole other story. Like I went to the place I bought it from and I'm like, can you please exchange it? Can we swap it? And they're like, no, we can't. And I'm like, please, I've done so much business with you. Can you please?

And eventually they worked out something with RED. Oh, that's good. But yeah, it's the tools, you know, I'm not saying everyone needs this camera when they go out there, but also this is not the most expensive camera out there. Oh, yeah. How much is this camera? I mean, the brain?

- What do you mean the brain? - No, that's what they call it. - They call that a brain? - Yeah, well, so it's like, you've got the brain there, which is just literally pretty much the sensor and all of the connectors that lead to the rest of the camera. But then what a DP or a second or first would do is they build out and they'd put the whole,

camera rig around it with little bars and then you'd get the lens on there and then you'd monitor the teradex wireless transmitter yeah you know the fizz kid which is like lets a uh first ac remotely control the um the focus control and stuff there's you can build this use auto focus okay well uh

Because it's not that good yet. Actually, there's been recent developments in this. Oh, okay. Yeah, because DJI's LiDAR focus, they recently released a standalone version of their, an upgraded standalone version of their LiDAR. I actually used it a little bit here for the first time, and it was really good. Really?

I was actually quite good. Damn. I'm fucking wrong, Schlatt. No, no, no, no. I would rather have a person there doing this than trusting, I hope that autofocus got it. This is really just in a situation that no one would be doing a movie in when you're by yourself filming yourself, YouTube style. You would not just want to do this for the whole thing. But in a pinch, it can work. Yeah, I mean, I suppose if you had some sort of like

if you had like a mounted camera and a specific, and you only had one focus point that you were trying to keep on. But a lot of times to answer your question, usually like in film, like if you've got a long shot or something, like pulling focus and changing where the audience is looking in the frame and then the depth of it is like,

It's a time-based thing. So it's like if it's auto-focused, it's like, oh, it's just going to be focused on whoever's closest in the frame the whole time. It's an art form. There's so many little art forms that go into filmmaking, from the pulling of focus, the lighting, just the data management is an art form in itself. The lenses, the visual effects, the sound. Man, capturing sound is the biggest puzzle. It's good sound. It's such a puzzle. I'm so glad I'm not a sound guy. Yeah.

All right. So you're crying on the floor of this warehouse. Yes, I am. Yes. And then you go there again tomorrow. Yeah. And you do the same thing. Yeah. How do you reset? I want to make the movie. You want to make the movie. That's that's yeah. That's the only thing that I need to know is I want to make it. It doesn't matter if I have a bad day. It's like the only reason I'm upset about the bad days because I'm

I worry that like, ah, man, it's going to, it's going to set me back on making this movie. I might not be able to make it as good as I want to make it. So like, I, I don't, I don't get discouraged. I get encouraged because I'm like, fuck, I got to really dig this day because my goal is not to have a good day. My goal is to make the movie. And it,

By focusing on that as opposed to the day that I'm having even though you know, I mean I can't ignore it sometimes but you know I wake up and I'm like I really got a dig today because I don't have too many opportunities left to do this Here's a question. I have that could relate to that a little bit. Hmm that I

I thought a little bit earlier than I thought. I think you might relate to but I noticed this phenomenon where because the only sets that I've done have been like the max as of the last like three years have been like a two-day shoot. So obviously you have a lot more larger timelines that you're dealing with. But one thing I've noticed is that like on those particular days because there was so I don't know if it was because there was so much riding on

me as a director to make everything work but i felt like i until it was wrapped for that day i felt like i had a somewhat infinite tank of like energy that like is i've never felt like that in any other circumstance where it's like when you enter on set it was like i was just going going going and like i didn't i wouldn't have noticed if i was tired or something like a flow state

Could be. But have you ever experienced that before when like... Oh yeah, for sure. On set, like we're just like... Yeah, because there's so much riding on it. The problem is when you get a longer shoot and the physical... You start to... ...pull, it starts to take... The flow state starts to... Yeah. There starts to be ripples in the flow. And then your days get slower and it's like... And then you have your weekend and you go like, I'm resetting, I'm zenning out, I go get a massage, I build a shot list, it'll be fine. Then Monday is like...

Monday and then Tuesdays like Yeah, so it's ups and downs yeah, so on the I imagine the longer timeline It's maybe that flow states a little hard to keep up, but like just as long as you get a reset Yeah, keep it going. Yeah, and is it a matter of just keeping? Keeping doing it every day, or do you feel like the the the time off? Rejuvenates you more

I don't know, because I, this is not bragging, I don't want anyone else to actually think that this is the right thing. I haven't taken a weekend and

I don't take weekends. So I don't think of like days off and I should because I do believe that rest is very, very good. You cannot grind at something forever even if you want to. But at the same time, I don't practice what I preach. I work all the time. And it's that same reason. It's like I love it and I'm so afraid of...

not being able to do everything I could. So that combination is sometimes very good, sometimes very bad, you know? Yeah.

But yes, it's very good to take breaks. Do take breaks. It is important. It's very mental health high. Yeah. I don't want this to become a therapy session, but I think. But I'll make it. But here we go. Yes. I think I reached a point where. I think this is a good, it is suitable though. I feel like just based on where we're at with the pod and all that, it's kind of. I think I reached a point.

where everything i had set out to achieve from a kid watching people like you and freddie and nico and sam and c nanners and woody's gamer tag all the people i looked up to um that was all i really set my eyes on and half my life later you know i have kind of achieved everything that

I wanted to do in a way. And, you know, I look at a lot of the old school YouTubers who have kind of moved on and have kind of, you know, expanded their horizons past being a YouTuber, like you directing a movie. And in my head, I'm like, man, I guess, but like, I don't know, it was always kind of

just being a YouTuber for me. And now that I've kind of gotten into the swing of things, it's like, man, this feels more like a job than anything else. Yeah. How old are you? 25. 25. I was about the same age when I had the same thing. I think it was 27. I hit my goal. Yeah. I wanted to be a big YouTuber. Hit it. You know, then another year goes by and you're like, okay,

Now what? You know, so I actually I was there. I'm not saying it's the same situation. But you know, before I started doing any kind of other project, you know, because you got to remember that for me, that was still eight years ago. Yeah, for me. So there were many years there after I hit my goal. And I was

I was happy that I hit my goal and then I got progressively sadder because there was nowhere left to climb. And it took a very long time for me to realize that it wasn't that I wanted to make movies. It wasn't that I wanted to make a Choose Your Own Adventure. It's that I thought back to why I actually started in the first place and why I actually started was not to be a big YouTuber. It's because everything in my life was out of my control.

Every single thing that was going on in my life before I started YouTube was out of my control. I had nothing to hold on to. I lost, I got laid off from my job. I had a terrible relationship. I had my appendix was removed. And during that, they found I had a tumor in my adrenal gland. Like all these things were out of my control. And I felt miserable that I had nothing to show for all the years that I had been alive up until that point.

And so I was like, if I don't find something, I will never be happy. And that's why I started YouTube. And it took me even after I hit my goal on YouTube and I had kind of thought about it. This is still like three years. I'm condensing a lot into a very long period of time.

But even that, you know, it started with baby steps of like, okay, if I want to make something and take control of my life and do something that I feel is fulfilling, what is that? So I just did the same thing when I started YouTube. I didn't start with YouTube. I tried a bunch of things. I tried making a comic, programming a game. I tried learning different languages. I tried, you know, making a

I switched majors from engineering to art school just to see if it would make a difference. I tried the thing again and again. I started wanting to do Freddie W stuff and corridor. Didn't work, didn't know how to do any of that. - Same. - Eventually you got around to it in one way. - Eventually, yeah. But with what I do now, it started because my brother said, "Hey, some people like to watch people play video games." And I was like, "All right, I'll try that."

Don't think it'll go anywhere. You know, and that's that's all it was. So it wasn't that I had like this burning passion for, you know, reacting and playing. I love playing games and I like doing that stuff. But it was about, hey, this is something that I can do. And at that point, I could do nothing. So I might as well start here.

And then the same kind of adventure started again once I realized I hit that goal. Very long time horizons. A lot of time to self-discovery, but it's like, yeah, that's what led me to here is just constantly trying to find that thing I could hold on to.

Wow. That was probably the coolest thing that you could have said to Schlatt. I feel like towards the end of this podcast, that was awesome. And I'm so glad that you shared all of that. Oh, of course. That was like, that was kind of beautiful. Oh yeah, man. So where do your ideas come from? Oh,

Wow. Thanks, man. I appreciate that. Oh, man, of course, yeah. If you want to talk further about it, you know, I'm around. Because, like I said, when I've been there, I mean, like, I've been there. I've been year after I had that realization desperately trying to hold on to it more, where you try harder. I had the year after that where it's like, I don't want to do anything. I had the year after that where I looked at myself in the mirror and realized, holy fuck, I am so much older than I remember, you know? Yeah.

where you see the aging happening on your face. And it's not because I'm not saying like everyone gets older. It's because of the stress I was putting on myself. And so, and that would be fine if there was a good reason for it.

If I could look at myself and be like, man, I've suffered for this, but the art I made was great. Right. I could look at myself in the mirror and be happy about it. But at that point, I look at myself and I was not happy because I had nothing to show for that wear on my body. It was just me trying to hold on to what was already there. And I think that's a trap that a lot of not just like YouTubers, but a lot of people who pursue anything for themselves get into is they find the one thing and then they hold on so tight it.

it crushes it in their grip and they lose any passion for it or they'll just let go because they're like, I'm tired of holding on to this. - When you say that, do you mean like a specific niche or something like on YouTube specifically? - Yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I feel like I've seen that before where it's like somebody finds a thing that works and then that kind of stops working and then, I mean, that's how a lot of burnout happens is when the thing that you used to do doesn't work as less anymore

you're putting the same amount of effort in yeah and it just wears you down yeah it's it's you know i i see with like a lot of people that specialize in like not calling anyone out in five nights at freddy's but that's it was a trap that i could have fallen into sure because i was known as the five nights first guy if i'd only done that that was definitely a path and i did a lot of it don't get me wrong i i definitely did but it's like i didn't want to be known as like the the guy i really didn't it just kind of worked

worked out that way there's so many other people that know so much more about the universe of five nights at freddy's than i ever could right because they're passionate about it and it's like and uh so i uh i encourage people just to try new things just because you never know where because you'll learn one lesson do something that applies to something else every time yeah yeah it's kind of funny that

That's kind of the conversation we had when it came to ending Chuckle Sandwich. This is the second to last episode and I think a lot of what was on our minds is it's kind of meaningful to be able to, in our position, close the book on something and call it like, okay, that's it. And maybe try something else. Yeah. That was what Unisonus was all about.

You know, Ethan and I, it was like it was we were trying to send a message to people that it's OK for things to end. It sucks what everything does. It's better to have an ending than to watch something fade away. You know? Yes, that's exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what we were saying. I'm a big fan of endings.

Because an ending is only you're still around. That's why with things like MatPat retiring, they didn't air the full video I sent to him. YouTube was making a video. They didn't air it. In it, I was just like...

He's not dead, everyone. He's not going to... Like, you always want to make these things. Yeah. Yeah, so it's never really... The ending is more for people to have closure on that chapter of what they were doing. And then you can move on. You got to finish something. And that's why I have so much trouble with being like, I can't switch tasks because I have to finish this before I can do anything else. And that's why this movie is like, it's not that I want to retire from YouTube and do this. This is like, this idea deserves...

every ounce of my effort. And I don't know how much it's going to take. So it's a discovery for myself at the same time. Oh, I hate giving estimations on how long something is going to take. Like even with like my manager with like an ad or something, it's like,

So you think that video, how long is that video going to take you? I'm like, I've been doing this for, like, professionally, I suppose, for, like, since, like, 2019. I still don't know how long a video is going to take me to make. Yeah, next week. Yeah, I'm just like, I mean, if I have a date I have to make, I'll kill myself to finish it. But...

other than that that's the only that's the only assurance is that i know if i have a hard date that that is that can't be moved in any capacity yeah and it's locked in i will get it done well that's kind of what's but it will be bad on the body and keeping on working is just like setting those dates for myself um yeah damn i do i feel like that this is gonna be you're gonna i'm gonna be stealing on this you're gonna be you're gonna blossom you're gonna blossom

Hold on. You're going to space, dude. This is the best moment of your life right now. This is the best moment. I'm changing everything. Markiplier changed your life. Just now. You're welcome, man. Thank you. I can't wait to see you win all those awards soon. Yeah, all those streamies and... Think bigger. Think bigger. No. Smaller. The president.

The president? The vice president. Like, like Congress, Congressman. State Congressman. The governor of New York. He killed my grandma, you know. Oh, director of the interior, secretary of the interior. I don't know who the interior is. The country. The crops. Crops.

Yeah, Andrew Cuomo had a thing where he sent COVID patients to nursing homes because the hospitals were full and didn't let anyone leave him. My grandma was there. You don't need to bring a picture of Andrew Cuomo. We know Andrew Cuomo. Don't even get me started by his brother. Sorry. Be of the NACMO.

that's not that's not it yeah no that looks like milo that's the nacho that's the nacho motion rig so so when whenever this because we won't talk about release at all in any capacity when when but when it is the movie and all that is that more of a yes i did a movie now on to the next new sort of exciting thing or as in this process have you

Are you like, "I'm hungry and I'm gonna keep making them and I'm never gonna stop"? Oh yeah, well... You got the taste for blood? Whenever I'm making a project it always takes longer than I think and therefore I have the idea of the next thing I want to do before I'm done. Oh, that's Nick. That's the guy who was our operator. The middle bottom picture, that's Nick. Oh, cool.

I think, yeah, that's Nick. There he is. We call him Nick Moe. Nick Moe. Yeah, he's been, he was such a cool dude. He was so excited because usually it's a helicopter going around and it's not like a submarine in an ocean of blood. And so he got to do some things he never, he actually got to, his quote, unleash the NACMO on this one. That's awesome. So is he like, his whole thing is NACMO? Yeah.

Yeah. So he I believe that he is like their top operator for it. So he knows it inside and out. And I believe he's part of like the design team. He just, you know, that's that's his thing. And he's just like a fun dude. That's great. So he was very excited. Anytime I asked him, can it go faster?

More. And he's like, oh yeah, let me fire up the second generator. That's awesome. Yeah. Very cool. How do we find a guy like that? I want a guy like that. Like a guy that's hyper-specialized in a specific... I mean, there's a lot of them in the film industry for sure. His salary is so high.

But worth it, valuable, but it's just like to get an entry level. It's funny. I feel like there's a lot of those types of things in the film world. Like there's like, I feel like, like for instance, with lenses, I imagine, I think that there's like certain, only certain companies that know how to rehouse a certain type of lens or like there's all these little tiny things

I feel like a lot of times the film industry at a certain level is like, oh, you want this? You have to travel to this ancient land to find the only person left who knows how to do this thing. Yes. 100%. Yeah. One of the lenses for the Minolta Record is one of the rarest ones is the 135 millimeter F2. It's amazing.

It's an amazing lens. It's incredible, extremely rare. How big is it? It's, I mean, it's, you know, about yay big, probably weighs like three pounds, something like that. Maybe two, two and a half. But it's extremely hard to find. You go on eBay, there's like not popping up. So I actually had a fan in Germany that went, that had it. There was a local shop, not listed online, that had it. Now it's, those are, those are different ones. You have to look up Minolta Record.

M-I-N-O-L-T-A space R-O-K-K-O-R. R-O-K-K-O-R. Yeah. So this lens is extremely rare. Amazing. In Germany, this guy found one that was six hours away. He crashed his car on the way to get it. Oh, shit.

Still got it. Markiplier needs this lens! Pretty much, yeah. I paid for his car repairs, which made this lens way more expensive than it already was. And it was very expensive, but I was happy because he, you know, obviously I'm going to pay for it. He was doing it for me. But yeah, it's like that was how hard it was to get one. Wow. Yeah.

And so you take this and then you take it to the people that can rehouse it and they have to have a schematic for it or else you have to pay for them to design the whole rehousing. They have to have the scriptures. Yeah, exactly. The scroll. Yeah. But yeah, it's a wild world. There's a whole slew of lenses out there, but I think I found the ones that I like the most. Right. I'll probably just like stick with these for as long as they're on. That would be great because then that would be kind of like that becomes your paintbrush in a way. Exactly. I like these lenses. I'm sure that through this experience,

and this always happens, I feel like on sets, it's like there are crew members that you're like, I'm going to want you for the rest of my life. Absolutely. A hundred percent. Like I've had one of the DPs that I've worked on on a lot of the music videos, Shane, like he's just, he's just such a cool, chill dude. Like, and I, and he does such a great job and I'm like, I want to work with you whenever I can. And this AD that I had, um,

He was like, I feel like when I went, it was in film school. A lot of times the 80s were like really high, strong people that were like,

Okay, so we got to move on to this next thing. And if we don't, then everything is going to fail. But like this guy, Connor, he was like, he's just so chill. Like I'll go to him and I'll be like, are we doing good? Do we have enough time? And he's be like, you're fine, dude. It's like whatever. Like he was the calm one. And like he kept, he like leveled me out. So it's just, it's, yeah, man, it's been a while since I've been on a set too. You get me all jittery. You give me the itch. Go for it. We'll have a set for you. Yeah. We'll have a set for you real soon. This is a set.

This is a set. You're right. Oh, man. And let me tell you about the stress of trying to get us having it a COI last second for this. We're talking 12 hour. No, not an hour turnaround. I don't know. I don't know. It's a certificate of insurance that like the rental houses to let you get anything. Oh,

I thought it was like the architectural. He's the guy that takes your script and goes like, this is how we're actually going to make it. Oh, yeah. These are the days we're going to do this, this, this, this, this. He works with the producers to figure all that out. At this point, it will be out. He's got a Christmas album coming out. Oh, shit. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. It was like, wouldn't it be funny if I did that?

And so I did it. Nice. And that's been my project for the year. That's great. And I've been reacting on the side to pay for it. Your side hustle, yeah. Yeah. No, that's great. Yeah.

You happy with it? Yeah, it was expensive though. It did seem like you were not going to make much money. It didn't seem like, maybe none at all. I haven't made money on any of my projects. Really? I've lost so much money on them. Yeah. But I don't even think of it, it's not losing money on them. It's, you're just... You get the thing that's changed. That's what it costs, yeah. That's what it costs to make that thing. It's like, I want the thing no matter what. It's like, I want that. So like the money, yeah, it's something you have to think about, but it's like, I don't, I have enough. I've talked about this before on

and I don't live expensively anyway. So it's like, yeah, if I'm going to, if this costs like a million dollars, then that's what it costs. And in return, my experience is like, that's just the cost of what that is. I owe it to them to make things like that, you know, and I owe it to myself to see how far I can really. It's because you wanted to make it in my mind. Yeah.

wow dude i'm gonna be stewing you're gonna be still be stewing i'm gonna be i'm gonna be cooking a little bit what's your favorite thing to cook my mom makes this chicken and dumpling recipe that's just like every time i i it's so much garlic so it's just pure chicken and garlic um but you boil the chicken for a very long time as long as you can korean recipe

They have vibes. They have vibes. Every Korean cooks on vibes alone. And that's just how it is. Great food as a result of it. Sometimes questionable. But, you know, that's the kind of thing about Korean cooking. Yeah. So, but she makes this like her take on what was my dad's chicken and dumpling recipe, which was his grandmother's recipe. Her name was Mama Doom. Mama Doom. Mama Doom.

Last name actually. Okay. It's a little scary. It is. Yeah. Absolutely. Terrifying. No, I mean, it would be cool if my last name was Doom. That'd be awesome. Mark Doom. Yeah. But unfortunately, it's Iplier. Yeah. Iplier. Iplier. Yeah. Surprisingly French. Yeah. So that's my favorite. The chicken and dumpling recipe. Have you ever cooked like bacon?

Markiplier, would you rather have unlimited bacon, but no more video games or, and stay with me, games, unlimited games, but no games? Wait, unlimited games, but no games. I don't know. I feel like he was being pretty crystal. I feel like that was pretty cut and dry. You were falling all over yourself. I wasn't falling all over myself. Yeah, kind of. I'll say it once.

I'll say it one more time. Mark, would you rather have unlimited bacon, but no more video games or games, unlimited games, but no games. And you are the last person who will ever answer this question on Chuckle Sandwich ever. It ends with you, man. So take your time.

Yeah, but there's no games. Yeah, it's okay. It's all good. Yeah, well, I mean, if you think of it, the difference between infinity and zero is kind of like not that big. But you could have unlimited bacon. Why can't you? I eat other things.

Okay, but you could have some on the side whenever you want. Well, it's my answer, isn't it? It is your answer? That's what I thought. I was just, you know, in my head, it's like, take the bacon. That was excellent. That was excellent. That was an excellent way to respond to that line of questioning. And then another question we ask our guest, Mark, is,

uh we have an ever growing now the you will be adding the final condiment to our ever growing list of condiments we ask every guest what they would put on the chuckle sandwich okay i'm the mayo okay i'm the two butt pieces of bread charlie was the meat and then there was a whole long list of other

Uh, yeah, we could, we could, yeah. No, Tucker can pull up that list right now, Mark. We built it. We did. We built it several months ago. Around episode 100, we tried to build it. It was a fucked up sandwich. I bet, yeah. Yeah, so let's see. Aioli, onions, grilled onions, third piece of bread, stick through the middle that holds it together, corned beef. Ethan, what is it, a pickle? A vertical pickle? Vertically. Yeah, I think that, yes.

Well, I don't think he started thinking spears. I think it was like the long slabs. Yeah, like crinkle cut long pieces. Yeah, tartar sauce, slice of himself from Ryan McKee. Okay, that's a cop out. Nice job, Freddie. Way to not add an ingredient. Flaky salt? Sprinkled like salt bae while he...

That's just stupid Danny get with it See we've read a tomato that can fly a plane Why would you kill it and put it on a sandwich? Yeah, that's a fair point from an issued farmer's bait. There's been so many bacon No white phosphorus. I mean to be fair it was Fairly relevant considering the question

Yeah, because a lot of the times I think they heard it and then they were subconsciously now bacon's on their mind. Yeah. This is someone that's easily influenced and Jarvis Johnson is very easily influenced. Pickle on a stick. Pickle on a stick. Let's go with, and this might be a cop out if I just called a bunch of people out that caught me out. Let's put it in a panini press. Whoa.

The whole thing. No, that's great. That was a fantastic choice. And that would change the entire experience because the texturally and then the heat elements would melt it all together. So you're taking the whole sandwich, we're putting it in there and then we've got the chuckle sandwich. Wow. Ship.

on the sandwich currently. There is. Re-added in the last episode by Ian Hicox. I haven't seen that one. Well, this is a list from a while ago. Okay, I got you. Yeah, this is from, I don't even know how long ago, how old this one is, but the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Did the oil spill? Well, that's just illogical. I don't know how you would get that on a sandwich. And specifically that ship, it was probably decommissioned. That occurred in 1989. You're so right, Mark. It doesn't even exist yet. I mean, it is right. Wow.

So I think he settled on just putting some oil on it, is what we- No, no, no, no, he did the ship. Oh, we put the whole ship on? We convinced him to put the ship on. We're gonna need a big panini press, Mark. But we'll do it for you. Don't put the ship on. You're asking us to remove someone else's ingredient? Every other ingredient- No one's ever asked us to do this before. It spits on everyone else's contributions to put a ship on there. It's illogical. That wastes thousands of tons. It's impractical. It's impossible.

Okay. Okay. We'll remove that one. Yeah. We'll take that one off. Yeah. We'll get that one. We'll get that one out. Thanks to you, Ian. There's your legacy. Well, I mean, as our final guest ever on Chuckle Sandwich, thank you, Markiplier, so much for coming on. Thank you. I think we can post this one. I think that this one might go online. And to think, the other ones, I was even more profound.

He told us who God is. I kind of mess with you guys. So I'll hold back from that. It wasn't a good idea. Well, I don't know. See you in the next episode, which is the final one, Chucklers.

I don't know. Shock you later. We don't usually say that. We just kind of do it. I was about to say, I've never watched an episode, but I don't think that's how it goes.