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Talking Dateline: The Devil Wore White

2025/2/5
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Ann Preisman
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Josh Mankiewicz
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Keith Morrison
一位以深入报道和独特叙述风格著称的美国新闻记者。
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Kent Walker
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Josh Mankiewicz: 本期节目关注的是Sante Kimes及其儿子之间复杂的关系,以及他们如何共同参与犯罪活动。这与我们以往报道的杀手与受害者之间的关系有所不同,更侧重于犯罪者内部的动态。Sante Kimes是一个极具魅力和操控能力的罪犯,她利用这些特质来操纵他人,包括她的儿子Kenny。Kenny深受母亲的影响,无法摆脱母亲的控制,最终参与了母亲的犯罪活动,甚至参与了谋杀。Kent则在青少年时期摆脱了母亲的控制,并对母亲的所作所为感到后悔。 Keith Morrison: 我亲身经历了Sante Kimes案件的调查过程,这让我对案件的细节有了更深入的了解。Sante Kimes是一个极具魅力和伪装能力的罪犯,她能够轻易地欺骗他人,并利用他人的信任来实施犯罪活动。她的儿子Kenny深受母亲的影响,他无法摆脱母亲的控制,最终参与了母亲的犯罪活动,甚至参与了谋杀。Kent则在青少年时期摆脱了母亲的控制,并对母亲的所作所为感到后悔。这个案件中,谋杀常常是为了掩盖其他的金融犯罪,例如保险诈骗和支票欺诈。Sante Kimes及其家人擅长说服普通人参与他们的犯罪活动,这使得他们的犯罪活动能够持续很长时间。 Kent Walker: 我在童年时期就目睹了母亲的犯罪行为,这对我的人生造成了深远的影响。母亲经常在商店里偷窃,这成为了我们家的生活方式。我既爱母亲好的方面,也原谅她不好的方面。但是,母亲的犯罪行为最终导致了悲剧的发生。 Ann Preisman: 我作为本案的制作人,参与了案件的调查和报道。这个案件的复杂性在于它涉及到多起犯罪,以及犯罪者之间复杂的关系。案件的调查过程充满了挑战,但最终我们成功地揭露了真相。 supporting_evidences Keith Morrison: 'This is less about killer and victim and more about killer and killer. And it's a crazy, crazy story.' Kent Walker: 'Well, she's got a big purse, a real big purse. And we're going up and down the aisles, and...I'm usually a few feet in farmer, and when she comes out, the purse is half full of stuff.' Ann Preisman: 'It was a fun story to work on, mainly because the developments were everywhere.'

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This chapter delves into the shocking story of Sante Kimes and her son Kenny, exploring their manipulative relationship and the string of crimes they committed together, including murder. It highlights Sante's charisma and ability to manipulate others, and the various crimes they committed to cover their tracks.
  • Sante Kimes' manipulative and charismatic personality
  • Kenny Kimes' involvement in his mother's crimes
  • The murders committed by Sante and Kenny to cover up financial crimes
  • The police investigation and eventual arrest of Sante and Kenny

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Keith Morrison and Josh Mankiewicz sit down to talk about Keith’s episode, “The Devil Wore White.” It’s the story of the charismatic and manipulative grifter Sante Kimes and her two sons. One son was able to escape their mother’s grip. The other was not. Kenny Kimes would do anything his mother asked, including murder. Josh and Keith break down the dynamics of the Kimes family and explore what drove Sante and Kenny to kill. Keith shares an extra clip from his interview with Sante’s eldest son, Kent Walker, highlighting what it was like growing up with Sante as a mother. Dateline producer Ann Preisman joins the discussion to help answer viewer and listener questions. Plus, Josh and Keith address those pesky rumors that they don’t get along.

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