The Mystery of Katrina Montgomery
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When I first guy, the case of people upset, like, you know why you let this guy run a murder investigation and it's true. I mean, I add at the time somebody said, I member of investigations, have you run out? Look that I said, this is my first one.

IT was me one thousand nine hundred ninety seven. Ron bamba was thirty one, a deputy D. A. And venture of california, a sleepy seased town sixty miles north of los els. He was Green just starting out, and that's when they dumped on his desk.

And old mystery, an unsolved case that had languaged for five years, the mystery of Katrina, a amount gammarus IT was one of those awful stories. And missing girl, a desperate family cops who say they're doing all they can. What SHE murdered, he must have been.

But how that happened was still a puzzle. By the time ron bamian inherited the case in may one thousand and ninety seven, the original investigation, or what they had, bof IT, was clouded over by time. And now almost nothing was clear. There was no real good .

crime scene investigation done at the time. There was some done, but they nobody know what they had. Nobody, if they had a homicide, a missing person, they didn't know.

and nobody was talking. For all the efforts of katrine's family for years, the case had simply died, been lost in a bureaucratic shuffle between police and los Angeles, where he lived, and authorities and ventura, where he was last sea. When you hear about a cold case, most people think about a crime that was simply too difficult to solve.

But that isn't always how IT works. Sometimes police don't have the man part a crack case. Sometimes geocache things like jurisdiction get in the way.

Sometimes IT takes an investigation team that simply won't give up and won't necessarily play by the book. Bamba was determined not to blow his first big case. But of course, any murder investigation is a complicated business, and this one even more. Bambi was, as you might expect, a cutely. Aware of his own and experience, he knew he would need help.

I mean, we ask for mark.

Mark volpe. He was an investigator with a district attorney office at the time of season detective. And something else.

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You will hear what they did, their surveilLance tapes, their tricks play, their traps set IT seemed impossible. The pieces of the puzzle were lost, trying to find them, to put them back together, but become a foreign half year obsession. IT all started in the every twenty one thousand nine hundred and ninety two when katrinka t.

Gery truck was found abandoned and the Angeles national forest, a lonely spot twenty miles from downtown los Angeles, with an infamous reputation as a place to dump bodies. But this time there was no body, just a few drops of blood in her truck and no sign of Katrina. A amount gammer y IT was almost as if he had never existed at all, though, of course, he had had been a viBrant Young woman with a mya streak. Tell me about a trainer.

You go right tell ina SHE was a twenty year old aspiring college in photographer as he was like the Spark of the family as a child he was speaking in full sentences at very really age SHE had a very um say aggressive sense of human SHE like to play jokes to rebellion SHE was he had a period of her life he was very rebellion but IT was a rebellion that was ending by .

one hundred and ninety two should become close to our family again after years of bad choices the man gammer's had lived in ventura and when Katrina was in high school, he fell in with a bad crowd, hung out with members of a racist game called the skin head dogs that going to read havoc and venture a for years. What's a skin hand dog? What is that?

This kind of dogs were a group from mentor. They were the misfits, they were not popular, they were not athletes, they were not the academics. And they get together, and they started drink and listen to punk rock music. And slowly they started saying and identifying with White, supreme SE police.

They covered red their bodies with the premises, tattoos, and became an increasingly violent. But the skin had dogs. Prison was a badge of honor.

SurveilLance video shows one of the gangs stabbing another prisoner. How did SHE asia such a group? He went to .

high school a lot, and they were friends. They became the game and then your Young rebellion. And you think this is something that's really .

going to upset the parents. But by one thousand hundred and ninety two, tino was twenty. He was in college working as a waitress, hoping to be a photographer. As far as her parents knew, he d left those friends .

behind the .

thanksgiving nineteen ninety two SHE sounds happy at a family celebration, unaware of what was about to happen. The morning after thanksgiving ninety two, the Katrina was off again, but SHE told her family SHE d rejoin them in two days, and he promised a call later that very day. But there was no call because Katrina hadn't told her mother everything.

SHE hadn't told her family he was underway to a party thrown by some of those old friends, those dangerous friends, from years ago. IT was the old gang. The skin had dogs.

Why did SHE go? Her family can't explain or forget that secret and fatal mistake. Prosecutor bamba looked through the old case file and read about the party and realized right away that he already had his first piece of the puzzle.

Well, I knew there were a bunch of really violent guys, and that he was at a party with these really violent guys and doesn't really take a genius. He had a bunch of guys who are extremely violent. Girl, who is missing.

Hm, who could have done. And as he read the record, something else came clear. Among the ganging party years that night, bamba believed there were three who could have killed her, because three of those gangs members had offered alibis, which simply didn't check out the bamba. IT was obvious.

they are the last three weather. They came up with fake alibis. You don't come up with fake abas, uh, if you're innocent.

The Young gest of those three was just a teenager at the time his name Larry in a casio from most Angeles but already a veteran of the game .

he was the Youngest of the group he started in his gang at eleven years old, had no real president and stopped going to school, was a car thief um and was concerned by most to be probably the weakness and most vulnerable .

member another one has obviously faked his other two his name was ryan bush, nineteen at the time, also a skinhead and with a particular reputation.

He was sly's older cousin. Couple years older, he was considered one of the best fighters in the game, considered to be the their devil uh was completely loyal ah to his game um had a reputation for doing anything for his brothers .

and there was just a marion than twenty one of the leaders of the skin head dogs marion the prosecutor read in the file, had a long record. Even then at fifteen, he vanda ized a jewish temple. At seventeen, he beat a black teen.

During class in juvenile hall, he beat a corrections officer. So here IT was a short list of three bam. Believed any one of them could have killed katrine amon gammarus. But which one?

The reward for speaking up as little of none. And nobody pushes the right button at the right time and the secrets kept. Time passes between us for god.

And how are they even find long lost evidence, let alone prove the case in court? After all, there was no body, no murder weapon, no apparent motive and a ganging vow of silence. And that, bamba believes, is what defeated the los Angela's police investigation years earlier .

that understand a lot of a the game culture. And ventura, who was involved with the players, were they didn't understand um or they didn't have the um the time of the resources to understand. I mean I don't if you have been the robbery homicide, los Angeles, i've been there a few times now and you want to talk about some busy .

homicide investigators, the L. V, D. investigate. I told deadline, the case never got cold IT.

just simply SAT. While other cases, specifically the O J. Simpson case, two years later, took priority, why would anyone think they could solve catrin a amount geri's murder? After all those years, there was bamian experience.

Of course, he was simply too Green to know what wasn't possible. And neither partner was prepared to leave this case out in the cold, where they found IT. No, they decided they would trick the killer out into the open.

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ron bam, the Green prosecutor, and mark volpe is more experience investigator, identified three suspects who lied about there were about all skin heads who saw Katrina a at a party. Three men who they know won't talk, not willing anyway. And so very carefully, they set up what they hope will be a sting.

It's target one of the prime suspects, the Youngest one, the one they believe might be most vulnerable. They hope this x girlfriend will help them extract a confession. It's late on a friday night.

The suspect glory in the casio has been lowered by the x girlfriend to a ventura motel. The girl is CoOperating. She's in on the stage.

The cops are in the next room. It's been years since they saw each other, but all during that time he is suspected in a cassio may have killed Katrina. And so IT consider a rister herself. She's agreed to meet alone in a motel. This potentially dangerous man from whom you'll try to extract a .

confession will nervous.

Yeah, I was patrimony human. When you tell a fight, one is one who is twenty two, twenty three years old and then you have a person, you think a possibly a rapist and a killer ah you know, it's not exactly a good day if, god forbid.

someone happened to her. The girl had lord a cassio to the meeting by telling him he had been spending to testify against him to a grand jury. SHE told him he needs .

to know what to say. So was enough for .

him to get to make IT more realistic. They a little scheme, a trick. They shown the Young woman what they told her was evidence against the man he was about to try to trap charts.

DNA pictures .

of a body. The charts of the DNA were borrowed from police archives of other homicide cases. But now the girl and Larry naki o.

Believe there is real evidence against him. The prosecution team is watching, desperately hoping for a break. And then suddenly there's a problem. The suspect, the casio, is hungry and wants to go out to eat.

And you see cop scramble like crazy. And you can hear on the radio because we've left the room.

because you in the girl are outside the range of electronics surveilLance. The cops can't see them or hear them. All they can do is weight frantically worried and later debrief the girl in front of their own hidden cameras.

What happened? And that's when they get a revelation. Another piece of the puzzle in the mystery of kati amount gery, the Young skin had, tells us ex, he knows something big and.

He tells the girl he's afraid I will implicate him, so he warns her.

He tells her that if he testifies, SHE ruins the life for three people, and he tells you do not testify. And because all three of us are done for life.

all three now they know they have a case, or at least enough, to pull one of the men for questioning. And so two days later, the Young skin head there in a casio is arrested for the murder of katrin, a amount gallery.

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Bama and oli believe the arrest of learning a casio will be a major turning point back at the police station. They're hoping to cashier will tell them what really happened that night, five years earlier, when can try amount gombert went missing.

That thing said we wanted share with you and things we want to talk about. That's unfair.

This is the actual interrogation here.

The right remains someone. Anything you see can be .

used to get you according. But naki o is not the only suspect in custody. His cousin yellow skin had ryan bush, who was also what that last party was. Katrina was .

brought in two.

The ping pong between the interrogation rooms, putting pressure on each suspect.

But if you would want to go away, it's not gonna away every.

go away all night.

They question the suspect, believing that eventually one will make a deal and turn on the other.

You have to focus .

on one. We knew that to roll one .

of the three over, and we all pretty much so. That has to be Larry.

But the rocky homicide prosecutor is just now realizing he's made a huge mistake as .

we arrested there and right together, and we didn't anticipate how fierce their loyalty would be for each other.

So now the interrogators why it's no cop trick, they tell one of them that the other has betrayed him to spill the beans. But IT doesn't work .

is not in .

the door. okay.

So now that detectives try another trick, they bring another girlfriend of the Young gest suspect glare in a casio. Girlfriend number two believes the cashier was involved somehow, but did not kill Katrina ina. And just like the first girlfriend, this one has also offered to CoOperate, but for a different reason, he wants him to make a deal to save his skin.

We could not break through to Larry, so we asked bRandy would like to talk if she's absolutely. He was angry that he had shared what IT happened.

He tells the casio she's talk to the cops. SHE tries to get him to confess his involvement and he, angry, resists.

You don't know what they have a new. Idea who care anymore, who care about I do. And that's why did that. Because I do care about you.

And now he tries another tech SHE tells a caso that he is not the main suspect in the murder of crin amount gammarus and that by turning on others, he can still get a deal from the prosecutor.

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listen, is finally out roles. One intriguing nugget in the wrong place.

the wrong time.

What dispose .

of the evidence? Was that his way of saying he didn't kill ler, but did get rid of the body? The prosecutor is skeptical.

I mean, I did not believe you did not participate the homicide. You know who would? And I I told mark, we left there. I was lying about that. I don't believe IT and are you liked because was going to tell the girl, you know, I was there and I raped and killer .

too after all that all night there is no usable confession, but key pieces of the puzzle are falling into place. That girlfriend helped a lot. Not only did he talked in a cashier, SHE told investigators what he already knew, that Katrina had gone to the house of one of the suspects after the skin had party IT probably breathe our last breath there too. And he knew which gang member IT was the suspect who lived in ventura, the one they had not yet questioned, his name. Justin marion.

on monday morning, uh, we, the material sort team, one to just american house, and we serve the search .

one in that house was something quite chilling.

A few days after the arrests of the first two suspects, on november twenty thirty thousand nine hundred ninety seven, the prosecutor and his chief investigator, mark volpe, arrived at the home of Justin m. With a search. Marion is the eldest of the three suspects and the one with the longest rap sheet. What did you find?

Well, what we found was all the game literary letters, hundreds and letters, hundreds of pictures of the game culture. We found our weapons everywhere. We found dub, um because he had. And of course .

they expected all that, but then they try something that once would have seemed like science fiction. We had a light petition in there.

and he sprayed the room with this, a chemical called lumina little. All in the dark cloth indicate that this blood present when he, all the wall of just americans room.

the whole wall, let up. It's iry the lumina makes IT obvious that something very bloody happen, but there's no usable DNA. No way to use this in court without more of the puzzle.

Back at headquarters, at the bottom of the old case file he inherited, bambi has discovered something that seems to him explosive, even though apparently IT LED nowhere in the first investigation. It's a package of letters from Justin marion to Katrina on gery. As bamian reads through them, he comes to a new understanding of his case. Katrin amount gammer y had hardly known the two suspects already arrested and question the cassio and bush, but this was proof that he did know Justin married very well. And as maybe more than just a friend.

what between the dead, unfortunately, was when just went to prison, he started this relationship with the man with them.

IT seems bizarre, self destructive and letter SHE herself saved with the secret desires of a skin head gang leader, a man known for a violent temper, not see tattoos and disrespect for women.

They started off very general, and they were very plutonic. And, and you can see, and Justin s. Writing.

keep asking for more. He writes your, my ideal. He writes about having nazi babies with her. And he writes, I know you're interested in me, but at the same time you think you are Better than me. The letters are enduring silent evidence. It's apparent the two of them are getting close, but what he wrote made IT seem that he wasn't yet completely sure about him.

SHE would give him the idea once in a while that there was a potential for more, but every time he would express that, he would shut him down and he would tell her quite a openly that, listen, you don't know who you're messing with.

Uh, he tells .

her a letter. He tells her later, very clearly. Yeah, the method pops.

Justin marion was released from prison in february of ninety two. Nine months later, Katrina o was dead. Get something in their emerging relationship.

Provide a motive for murder. Still, they needed more to prove a case against mariem. IT was time they decided to try another rules. They arranged for a lie, a false rumor, to get to american what lie that the Young skin had. Larry, a casio is talking and might be implicating just in maryland.

Pressure on people. They make mistakes. They make statements.

And we are always going to create depression, the system out our time or common. It's inevitable. You you not really can stop IT. You're pretty much defensive here is just going to have and fall into the house. We can drop off the car.

And how do they get the message out? Once again, they dream up a sting in the local jail. They found a gang member who offers to help in exchange for a favor.

The man agreed to meet maryland in a car to tell him that the casio is talking to the prosecutor first. Of course, they have to get their volunteer out of jail temporarily. He has secretly suffer out the back door into the custody investigate volplaned a warning that if this informant doesn't come back.

more volpi would be taken a space until they did come back.

Now take rolling, the message is delivered. Larry nakita is talking to police.

but I don't know for some reason. I think, Larry.

the bottom is, when we did this case, we created the illusion that everybody talking to us.

Now, too much, but marian doesn't buy the story. He smells a rat before the day is out. This volunteer is back in jail, having barely escaped the beating or worse, the thing has backfired. And now mary must know the cops are closing in. He won't be talking anytime soon.

You can see yourself like you're this close to like doing that and then it's over. You're like farther away than you were. I mean, that hurts.

The investigation had been moving fast. It's been only a month and sustain back at the motel than the two arrests than the search of marian's house. And then everything just stops.

They've been trying hard, but they're not getting anywhere. And they begin to realize they could wind up, just like the L. A, P.

D. Before them stuck. Marion, now, the chief suspect is out there. The two other suspects are still in jail and still not talking. But every day, baby, make sure they're reminder, especially the Young gest Larry a casio, that the only way they can avoid the worst kind of punishment is by talking. And finally, the pressure works.

Eight, i'm senior deputy district tory ran vania. We think the deal with Larry and IT was big night. I mean, me, we are walking on air because .

he was offered a deal. He'll pleaded guilty to accessory to murder after the fact and get three years in prison as long as he tells the truth. Years after the murder, years after the first investigation of that murder simply fizzled out, these investigators have finally pushed hard enough. A long held secret is about to be revealed. Finally, they hear the whole grim tale of the death of katrine .

amount gery.

SHE had, he tells them he was .

asleep on the floor of marian's room when Katrina arrived, when he made the biggest mistake of her life, when he got in the sweets and got into bed with merman.

I'll learn around the floor about five minutes into IT they hear Justin clip on top of her .

maco commonly tells them how he and the third man, ryan bush, lay there on the floor pretending to sleep as Justin marion brutal raped katrin, a amount gery.

is this they.

Going to hear one for me and they going to hear a crime. She's in a great title pain. She's scared and you can't stop up and they won't help her.

Merman went on for hours until, says micheal, finally, he did stop, but he is brutal. Assault wasn't over and .

her and he was a long time of the four .

days she's on.

and just son was time to next to her. And I seen him here like like this.

Marion pushes a knife and the could train his neck.

Larry describes how her hand were over her neck and you can see the blood coming through her fingers and SHE fell on the ground and ryan starts to saying, don't do IT, don't do IT and she's begging just i'm not to do IT and just in saying, she's onna rat. She's gna rat. You know what happens to rapson in prison?

She's gonna rat. You'll go to the police. He told the others SHE report .

the rape and then and the cashier told them .

Justin marathon blogging Katrina with an old ranch. Member twenty nine, nineteen ninety two, the sun was barely up, and twenty hero katine amount gery was dead and then said the cassio, the three of them dumped her body, abandoned her truck and left.

and they go back. And then everybody lies and everybody keeps quiet.

The murder of katrine amount gery is no longer a mystery, but no court would give them a conviction if they couldn't prove. Learn the cayo is telling the truth. To do that, you'll have to show them where she's bury.

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Our plan was for large shows what the body was, and our plan was that we had the body that we could prove with physical evidence what had happened to.

It's now been six years since the eea and gomera was killed since just a marion and learning a caso and ryan bush dump ed her body way out of the edge of los Angeles county. Would the body still be there after all that time? And if they couldn't find IT without a body to CoOperate? The casio statement with his testimony stand up in court and he shows us .

on the map and area called sunset farms and we were concerned because we'd all been up to sense farms. There is a lot of construction, but there was construction um only on certain parts of IT on the left side IT was pretty much pristine as IT wasn't any two. There may be a shot.

So they go, what do 你 we .

get in the car to share with？ You know, there's all kinds of guys with guns. Half our office, we had FBI guys out there.

Helicopter forensic people corner standing by your swatch team. More design, less, please. Let's because it's left, not right in this road, we get the top of the road. And there he goes, right? And we knew in trouble.

Larry took us up a dirt road that at one time was right here where we're standing in a jacket. The dirt road was a ravine. Blair and I are walking up and down the start road trying to determine and his mind, if in fact, we're on the right road.

we're just scrambling or hoping for walking up and down that road, hoping he can find like some clues, some area where h there he is. I don't know what done.

We know some said farms isn't what I used to be. IT has been moved. Buildings build. The last remains of Katrina's gummer y dumped all those years ago could be anywhere. SHE had disappeared into a vast construction project gone that went from the best day, law .

enforcement that i've ever had, the worst day. And about five minutes, I mean, I was hard, came back. I turned to Larry.

I just start yelling at the guy, and I just start time. I go. You listen.

I go. You didn't finder. You told us he would you us, I go.

I don't care what IT takes. You're going to prison for the rest your life. I don't care what kind of deal we have with you. If you don't produce, you're going to prove that just the marriage did this and he was verified.

Now they need to prove the truth another way, a risk yearly with another trick they want the Young skin had learned in a cassio to wear a wire and get just a measurement, to talk about the rape and murder of Katrina and gammarus. Then they have a bit of luck. Mariama has been sent to jail on unrelated charges, so they wire the Young skin had and send him into the lions down.

He tells the cassio not .

to bring his name into IT another bit of evidence, but they need more. And then marion, who has no idea all this, is being recorded. Guess the investigators exactly what they need.

It's settled, but there .

IT is a key piece of the puzzle falls in delays. When marion hisses that the casio helped hold the body, helped get rid of the evidence, the prosecutor knows that the instant hears IT in his own crude way. Marion is confirming the cayo s credibility. You killed her.

you and red or nothing like that. So you the guy who buried or you're liable. And that's what Larry had told us, why he was couple because he had buried between and .

hit the evidence with this, they knew they could prove to jurors the marina cassio was telling the truth. Then finally, loyalty, obviously useless. Now, ryan bush, who by the way, is never charged in this case, confirms the casio story too, are ready to move.

But marian might also be ready for them. A strange and desperate conspiracy is about to begin. Another murder plot is being hatched. Even though they don't know that yet, there is one more track to set.

Justin maryland has been rattled, so rattled he has given investigators a virtual admission of his own guilt. He has unwitting ly corroborated the key detail of Larry the cao story. Why was he rattled? First, there was a matter of his own sister and .

what he couldn't hide.

I know.

and those SHE wouldn't .

be charged with a crime.

Amber marion has admitted he helped clean up blood in the house where a marions lived.

And then, even more important.

SHE implicated her own mother was your mother are .

in the process cleaning the world.

Amber r. Tells them her mother was with her cleaning up the blood on the stairs. Investigators use learning the cassio's last meeting with Justin married to get the message across. Your mother and sister are in .

trouble that you can break them a more of all this I need to on there.

Finally, this cold case, this forgotten murder, looks like it's sold. Time to move. Justin mariem is charged with the rape and murder of Katrina's gammire.

I I was a done deal. I an the whole murder case.

but not so fast. All that compelling evidence is just talk from informant, witnesses, criminals who want to make deals, other women who say they were raped. Their evidence in court will only be as good as their testimony. But what if something happens to the witnesses? They're all CoOperating, but there is a danger no one has thought of.

And we find out that to our surprise and to our hour, that marion had gotten out, every witnesses name tell everyone in this game. We find letters and prison cells. We find letters that women's houses we find. Anybody can what is in dogs have one of these letter .

identifying the .

witness identity, the witnesses by name, any information they had, terms of description, like, you know, we tat to hear, look here, this where he .

lives before IT looks like Justin marion is trying to have witnesses killed.

And we need right away that the only way anybody would kill anybody is that they can get paperwork for work paperwork, car transcripts saying that this person testified, majority transcribe saying no key testified. Here's a transcript to the major y that Keith was testified. Well, if you're game member and they got and they have got a transcript tury that you CoOperate, a long enforcement.

well, now they can kill you. But how how would Justin marion get copies of seal grand jy transcripts? And how would he send them out to other gangs members? Another informant has the answer.

Merman calls our guy who was out of prison and says, see my mom, she's going to give me some paperwork. And now we knew the paperwork .

was IT is Justin marian's own mother. Turns out she's gotten their hands on seal transcripts and is sending them to marry them, gaining associates. But how is that possible that mariama from his jail soul is telling his mother what to do? Listen.

as marian's mother greets her son in jail, the prosecution team has set up for one last thing.

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At first they seem to be talking like any mother and son.

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play a very dangerous game of charades.

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On the glass that separate him from his mother, Justin environment is drawing the initials of information he wants taken out.

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outlines victims name. He outlines a enforce. At this point, he's telling her, get the word out. He writes A A name earlier we saw on th Epace o n t he g lass a nd h e s ays, you got to get the word out. You got to get the word out. They need to know because he understands getting the word out that these people are inforcements or in his term, rats, uh, that they'll be dealt with .

in the native time. The witness intimidation scheme is shut down. Marian's mother, early sue marion, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to intimidate witnesses.

That charge is added to her son's doctor, too. The puzzle is finally complete after four and a half years. In your case, they go to trial. Now I will tell you.

when we perceived the environment, our evidence wasn't as good as IT eventually became because he gave us more evidence and did not try to kill the witnesses. I mean, hard to say i'm in isted, but I want all these people did anyway.

February thirteen and two thousand one, Justin mariam is convicted of the rape and murder of Katrina amount gery at his sentencing hearing against the advice of his own attorney, marion takes the stand to ask the jury for compassion. As he warned in, he gives the nazi salute. And then he tells the jury he isn't the cold blooded killer the prosecution has made him out to be.

He tells them his lawyer hasn't got a very good job. He tells them he is innocent. The jury doesn't buy IT. Justin marion is sentenced to death.

By then, Katrina ina gammarus had been dead nine years for fully half that time for four and a half, fears ron dama, who began as a neo fight in the homicide division, and mark volpe, the innovative investigator, coach the truth to come out. Some said they were obsessed. They bought with tricks and lies and faker yet don't regret IT for a moment how fast you run when .

you're chasing ele. I mean, how hard when do you say OK, we're going let this guy walk away. We're not going to run out from.

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