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Oh, how the tables have turned. Tish James, now subject to criminal referral by the Trump administration. Have we reached the find out phase? I think we have.
I think we have. I think we're in the find out phase. Great to have you with us today on Vince. Always great to have you with us. The best damn audience in all of media. And let me say, we've got the Letitia James story today, who is literally guilty of the thing that she accused Trump of being guilty of. Classic case of left wing projection. We've got updates on all of the swatting instance instances, more conservative now being subjected to these terror attacks.
By the left, we'll get into the details there. Also, Dan Bongino, the FBI deputy director, responding to that. We have some breaking news today involving going after the state of Maine. Once again, the find out phase is in place as the state of Maine continues to allow boys to abuse girls in their system. That's not happening anymore, according to the Trump administration. They're going after them now for that. I've got a lot to get to. Oh, and
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Yes, yes, yes. Okay. Let me tell you about Big Tish, which is hilarious. I love Mike Davis at the Article 3 Project is always calling her Big Tish. I love that. Big Fat Fanny Willis.
Big fat Tish James. These are preposterous people who've grossly abused their power as government prosecutors in order to try and destroy their signature political opponent. That would be President Donald J. Trump. And thankfully, President Trump, of course, got the last laugh because he both won the election and is now apparently holding Tish James, Letitia James, the attorney general of the state of New York, accountable for
for what appears to be the crimes that she committed. Now, let me take you back in time
In terms of how Letitia James came into being, who she is, what she stands for. Letitia James ran to become the state attorney's general on the idea that she would destroy Donald Trump. She made it a part of her campaign. Oh, I'm going after him. He's surely committed crimes. And we are going to use the weight of the justice system in New York to hurt this man. Her goal, of course, was to debilitate him.
him to stop him from being able to mount yet another successful run for president of the United States. And she failed miserably in that goal, but it was not for a lack of trying. No, not at all. In fact, Letitia James in late 2023, you know, in the heat of the election, announced a lawsuit against President Trump accusing him of defrauding banks and
in order to secure loans at favorable terms. You remember this saga? This is the one where the New York state establishment and Judge Arthur Angeron, that lunatic, wild haired lunatic, were accusing President Trump of overstating the value of Mar-a-Lago. And then these idiots insisted that Mar-a-Lago was valued at $18 million.
Which is, as anybody who even has a cursory understanding of Palm Beach real estate would tell you, this is insanity. There's no way that Mar-a-Lago, that beautiful estate right next to the Palm Beach airport, would be worth, right on the water, is worth $18 million? Yeah, no. No, not at all.
It's a storied estate, a beautiful estate, and it's worth a lot more than 18 million bucks. And yet the state of New York kept saying that, oh, it's only $18 million under Letitia James, under Arthur Angeron.
And so they go after President Trump for this. And in this rigged court where, remember, there were no victims here. All the banks said they were perfectly happy with their business with President Trump. They found no fault in his valuations. They said he routinely paid all of his obligations on time and they would love to do business with him again. Once again, a victimless scenario in a novel and abusive use of the law. At the end of it,
The left imposed, Arthur Angeron imposed a massive, massive fine on President Trump for nothing, for nothing. They concluded that he owed $355 million, $355 million in a civil fraud verdict. Take a look at this. Here, I got the articles from the time. Look at this bad boy. A $355 million claim against President Trump
After Friday's eye-popping penalty in his New York civil fraud trial, the AP described gleefully in February of last year, he's going to need his cash. A judge ordered the former president to fork over $355 million of his fortune, plus interest, finding he lied for years about his wealth on financial statements that he used to secure loans and make deals as he built the real estate empire that vaulted him to fame in the presidency.
So this is insane, is what it is, a gross abuse of government power in a situation where nobody was victimized. And then in the last 24 hours, something really interesting has developed, really fascinating and so, so sweet. Suddenly, the feds now have credible evidence that it's Letitia James who has been defrauding lenders.
Letitia James, who has been telling lies. Letitia James, who has been securing loans through the use of those lies on favorable terms. In other words, defrauding these lenders to her own benefit. That's the news now. And here we go. Here's the New York Post with a version of this reporting this morning.
Trump administration refers New York Attorney General Letitia James for potential prosecution over alleged mortgage fraud.
New York Attorney General Letitia James, who infamously declared that no one is above the law when she was targeting Donald Trump, was just hit with a federal criminal referral for instances of alleged mortgage fraud on Tuesday. According to a letter that was just obtained by the New York Post, that letter written by Federal Housing Finance Agency Director William Pulte
who sent it to Attorney General Pam Bondi and Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch, alleging that Letitia James, the Attorney General of New York, had falsified her own records to get home loans for a property in Virginia that she claimed was her principal residence in 2023, while still serving as a New York State prosecutor. This occurred in late August of 2023.
Weeks before James began her civil fraud trial against the Trump Organization for over-inflating the value of its properties, which ended in a $454 million judgment. That was initially. You get that detail? This fraud that the feds have discovered occurred in late August 23. That is just weeks before she prosecuted President Trump.
for what she herself had actually done. Oh, he's defrauding lenders. No, sweetheart, you're defrauding lenders. You're the one who did this. This is a case of projection and it's instant. It's the second she's defrauding the lenders. She comes out and she goes, well, somebody else must be defrauding lenders. Maybe it's Donald Trump. Let's prosecute him. That's what happened. A little bit more for you. Now you have to take a look at this letter because the letter is dense with all sorts of scandalous information about how this all went down, how all of it went down.
These are the receipts you're looking for. Here's the information. Take a look. This comes to us once again from the Federal Housing Service, the head of U.S. Federal Housing, William Pulte, who sends this letter to Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche.
And he said, based on media reports he's discovered, Letitia James has in multiple instances falsified bank documents and property records to acquire government-backed assistance and loans and more favorable loan terms. This has potentially included the following. One, falsifying her resident status for a Norfolk, Virginia-based home in order to secure a lower mortgage rate. Here's, I got to tell you something about New York state law that you have to know here.
Letitia James cannot, by New York state law, live in another state. If her residence is officially in a completely different state, her job is vacated, meaning she is not the attorney general of the state of New York anymore. This case goes far beyond just vacations.
Who did she defraud when it came to some banks? It goes to what extent did she defraud the people of the state of New York? If she actually established her residence in a completely different state, New York state law dictates she's not allowed to be the attorney general anymore. You are not allowed to hold public office in New York if you're not a resident of the state.
And that would also mean that the ensuing prosecution of President Trump that took place just weeks later was itself a total scam for yet another reason, because she wasn't the lawful attorney general of the state. I am very eager to see where all of this goes. The Trump administration identifying this, handing this now off to the Justice Department, the Attorney General Pam Bondi, and saying, now's your chance. You can prosecute this. Here's what else we know.
She's also believed to have, quote, misrepresented property descriptions to meet stringent requirements for government-backed loans and government assistance. In other words, she's stealing from the taxpayers. On August 17th of 2023, this would be just weeks before she prosecuted Trump, Letitia James granted someone called Shamice Thompson Hairston power of attorney to make a Virginia property her principal residence. And on August 30th and 31st, through her attorney, Letitia James purchased this property in Norfolk.
In a Fannie Mae Freddie Mac form and in mortgage documents, she reaffirmed, that would be Letitia James, that this would be her primary residence despite being a statewide public office holder in the state of New York at the very same time and primarily residing in the state of New York. In fact, a building permit that was issued on her New York property on July 15th of this past year
refers to it as the James residence and says it quote remains occupied. So she's now claiming two different properties as her quote primary residence. And anybody who's ever had to deal with taxes or mortgages or anything related to having a home or having a second home, say an investment property,
You know that these distinctions are not meaningless. These are massive distinctions that give you meaningful financial advantages. And here she is taking advantage of the taxpayer. Primary residence mortgages receive more favorable loan terms, including lower interest rates than secondary residence mortgages.
Lenders view secondary residence mortgages as significantly riskier as a borrower is more likely to continue paying off a primary residence during any financial hardship. Well, that makes a lot of sense. If you fall on hard times and you can't make the bills work, what's the place that you're going to work the hardest to keep? What's the home you live in? Your second home, well, you might let some of those payments lapse. That's why lenders are concerned about that.
Interest rates on secondary residence mortgages are typically from a quarter to half a percentage point higher than their primary residence counterparts. However, this gap can actually widen depending on the lender. At the time of the purchase, Letitia James was the Attorney General of New York and is required by law to have her primary residence in the state of New York, even though her mortgage application lists her intent to have the Norfolk, Virginia property as her primary home.
Isn't this amazing? Isn't this, let me zoom in on that a little bit for you so we can see this better. It appears Ms. James's property and mortgage-related misrepresentations may have continued to her recent 2023 Norfolk, Virginia property purchase in order to secure that lower interest rate. Okay, so there you go. Then they get into the fact that she's got this Brooklyn property as well. She's got a Brooklyn property that is separate from the place that she lives, not her residence.
This is a property where she has a five-family dwelling in it. In other words, she's charging people rent to live there, a five-family dwelling. And that property in Brooklyn, when she secured the mortgage for it, she bought it under the terms of a four-unit program in order to receive federal assistance.
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac backed mortgages have favorable rates and terms to traditional private mortgages. Conforming single family loans are subject to a cap of four dwellings per property. Four dwellings. A building that exceeds four units must be treated as a multifamily property.
And typically as a larger down payment requirement, higher interest rate terms with interest rates being up to a percentage point higher due to lenders viewing multifamily homes as being significantly riskier. So now we found yet another distortion, another misrepresentation, another count of fraud where she's lying about the number of families who are living in this property. How many units are in the property? She claimed four in order to get the federal terms. It's actually five. These are problems.
One more for you in this, because it's endless. All of the things she's accused of, you're endless. They've also included additional documentation here in the referral letter, which shows that back in 1983 and then again in the year 2000, Letitia James listed her father as her husband. You heard me correctly. This is typical left-wing nonsense.
She listed her father as her husband in order to secure a home mortgage. Letitia James in 2000 was once again listed as husband and wife with her father in these documents. They say, while this was a long time ago, it raises serious concerns about the validity of Letitia James' representations on mortgage applications. So all the way through, yeah, that's right. The chat is pointing out this is Ilhan Omar territory. Ilhan who married her brother to commit immigration fraud.
Here you have Letitia James on documents claiming that her father is her husband to make these mortgage applications over and over and over again, evidence of her criminality, of her fraudulence. And so there she was, late 2023,
Getting in front of microphones, big tish James, accusing President Trump of wrongdoing, saying that he violated the law, that he overvalued his properties in order to get favorable terms from lenders. This woman was lying on practically every mortgage form she could get her hands on in order to get, yes, favorable terms. And additionally, according to these documents, to defraud federal taxpayers for access to federal programs that she should not have had access to.
That's the attorney general of New York who should not be in that job if her primary residence is in Norfolk, Virginia. It's against the law. Boy, she's in for a world of hurt, isn't she? Again, I think we've reached the find out phase. I want to remind you of how President Trump responded back when
the state of New York, Letitia James, Arthur Engron, were insisting that Mar-a-Lago is worth a mere $18 million. Take a look. Here's the president. They valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million. Because the courts are rigged. What's going on? The courts are rigged. They did. They valued it. It had an appraisal of $1.5 billion, $1 billion, $2 billion. Who knows what it's worth? It's worth...
because that was good for their narrative. So they valued it at $18 million because it's a crooked legal system, very crooked. That's why people are leaving New York. Companies are fleeing New York because of even this decision. They're leaving New York. And no, they come after me because I'm in the election. If I didn't run or if I was in fourth place or fifth place or ninth place, there'd be no attacks. And if we don't win, I'll tell you, I made the statement the other day
November 5th, that's Election Day. Not that far away. November 5th is going to be the most important day in the history of our country. With that being said, seven months is a long time when you have somebody as destructive and incompetent as this president. That's a long time. A lot of bad things can happen to our country. Yeah, yeah. No, and thankfully, of course, we know how that went. He won. Their efforts to rig the election failed.
They failed, and that includes Letitia James. So up until this point, here's what we knew about Letitia James, that she was an abusive little tyrant who was trying to rig the election on behalf of Joe Biden and company, no question. But here's what we didn't know until recently. What we didn't know is that she was also trying to pretend that she was the firefighter responding to the arson.
This was a massive case of projection. She knew she was in the midst of her own mortgage fraud. And then she goes after Trump, a successful businessman, whose lenders are very pleased with their relationship with him, and then accuses him of over-inflating the value of his assets to gain favorable loan terms. It really is rich, isn't it? It really is so completely perfect. So completely perfect.
And so now that you have this criminal referral coming to the United States Department of Justice, this is a massive win for decency, for justice. These are consequences. This is precisely what we've been looking for. And now, of course, what we await is the official announcement out of the United States Department of Justice. That's what we need. Yes, we've got this referral. Yes, it's within the Trump administration. But no, it is not yet the prosecution. That part is in Pam Bondi's hands.
And I know that you and I are going to be watching her very closely to see what she does with an open and shut case of corruption at the hands of a public official. It's very simple. It's very, very simple. I'd be remiss, by the way, if I didn't also give you a little bit more information here about how this came into being. There's a journalist,
by the name of Sam Antar. He's committing acts of journalism here by revealing all of this. He has been all over this story. And one of the reasons that the Justice Department knows about all of this is because of his work. This Sam Antar character is kind of interesting because those of you from the Northeast may remember something from a long time ago called Crazy Eddie's. It was a...
from, I think it was the late 80s, early 90s. It was electronic sales. And the company had these wild ads on television. Crazy Eddie's got the craziest deals. And in the end, Crazy Eddie's went down because of fraud. And this guy,
This guy, Sam, was involved. Sam Antar was involved in running the company. And ever since then, after he was busted for fraud, he's dedicated his life to instead digging fraud out and making it public. And here he is doing it with the New York Attorney General, Letitia James. And he's been reporting all over this. This is an April 1st report, but it's one of many. And I just—
I think that people who do important acts of journalism in the service of the country deserve the credit. So I just want to surface this. The name of his website is whitecollarfraud.com. I actually emailed him this morning with the hopes of getting him on the show. Perhaps we can talk to him in the days ahead. But he's the reason a lot of this happens.
has become public. So I'm very thankful to him for that. And it looks like now the Trump administration has its hands all over this and hopefully the Justice Department is gonna go after it next. So we'll get to that. Hey, before we continue, I do wanna thank our sponsors who make all of this possible right here for you. You've seen it before when disaster strikes, grocery store shelves can actually go empty overnight.
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All right, let's see, I've got a lot of good, the chat is wild this morning. Hey, how are we feeling about Tish James having some consequences here? We like this, isn't it amazing? Are you shocked that Letitia James stands accused of defrauding lenders and American taxpayers? You're not shocked? Pretty amazing.
Pretty amazing. This is really good. Loving it. Boomerang. Yeah, that's a great phrase. Boomerang. I love it. It's boomerang and back right on her. Not shocked, says Egriff130. There's some glee coming in. F-A-F-O, as you might expect.
Pam won't do anything about it, says somebody. This is a real test for Pam Bondi. People are skeptical that they're going to see more progress beyond this. Big chance for the attorney general to prove the chat wrong for those people who don't think it's going to happen. I really hope it does. Let's see. Yeah, a little bit. Some they won't do anything. F-tish. You know, some nice send-offs for the attorney general. So there you go. She's a crook. Karma, baby. Yes, indeed. You know, on...
On the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, I do have an update for you this morning that I am pleased with, with the Attorney General. Do you remember there was, not long ago, the President of the United States welcomed the state's governors to the White House. They all were sitting together. And while they were there,
President Trump was talking about protecting women's sports and saying, we've got to get the men out. I've signed an executive order making this really clear. We got to get the federal funding out of any school or institution that allows men to abuse women, that allows men to change in women's locker rooms, that allows men into women's prisons and on and on and on. Do you remember this? I'm going to play this, fellas. Here we go. Here's the president of the United States.
Justin, I think I can hear your microphone coming in, so let's mute that side of it real fast. Here's the president of the United States in February saying this. Watch. The NCAA has complied immediately, by the way. That's good. But I understand Maine. Is Maine here? The governor of Maine? Are you not going to comply with it? Well, we are the federal law.
Well, you better do it. You better do it because you're not going to get any federal funding at all if you don't. And by the way, your population, even though it's somewhat liberal, although I did very well there, your population doesn't want men playing in women's sports. So you better comply because otherwise you're not getting any federal funding. Every state. Good. I'll see you in court. I look forward to that. That should be a real easy one.
And enjoy your life after governor, because I don't think you'll be in elected politics. All right. So that was the president, you know, speaking exactly the way we hope he does. And he always delivers, doesn't he? As he points out to the governor, Janet Mills in Maine, you're not going to let men and women sports anymore. That's not going to happen anymore. And she she responds flippantly. We'll see you in court. We're following the law. No, you're not.
No, you're not. You're not following the Civil Rights Act. You're not following Title IX. You're not following the Constitution of the United States at all. The point of Title IX was to protect women's sports, women's spaces. There's a reason we segregate based on sex. If woman wasn't a real category, why would we create a protection for it? It's so completely obvious to anybody with two eyes, two ears, and two brain cells to rub together.
Everybody understands why we do this. And Janet Mills, who last I checked is supposed to be a woman, is standing up there saying, now I'm going to let men abuse women in my state. That's going to be the pattern here. Now, this morning, the update on the see you in court front is that just a short while before we started the live broadcast here,
The Attorney General Pam Bondi has announced new federal action against the state of Maine. Take a look as Pam Bondi is surrounded by female athletes and a state representative from Maine by the name of Laurel Libby. You'll see her over Pam Bondi's left shoulder. Take a look at this. Today, the Department of Justice is announcing a civil lawsuit against the Maine Department of Education.
The state of Maine is discriminating against women by failing to protect women in women's sports. Pretty basic stuff. This is a violation of Title IX. The Department of Justice will not sit by when women are discriminated against in sports. This is about sports. This is also about these young women's personal safety.
I met many of these women throughout the past weeks and months, and what they have been through is horrific. We have exhausted every other remedy. We tried to get Maine to comply. We don't like standing up here and filing lawsuits.
We want to get states to comply with us. That's what this is about. We have repeatedly notified Maine of its infractions and urged them to remedy the situation to protect women. We've stripped grants from Maine through other departments.
And we are going to continue to fight for women. All right. So a good announcement this morning out of the United States Department of Justice and the attorney general. You can see over her shoulder in that image, of course, you've got Riley Gaines, the very accomplished collegiate female swimmer who had to swim against a fella called William Thomas, who goes by Leah and pretends to be a girl and stole the honors of so many girls in the
in that high level competitive swimming. And then, and also forced the women to see his naked body inside of the locker rooms as they would all get changed. And then just off to the side, you can see a little bit, there's a Maine state representative here by the name of Laurel Libby. This woman is a hero.
This woman, who by the way will be on my radio show today, the national radio show 12 to 3 Eastern Time. You can also see that at rumble.com slash Vince. I'll be joined by this Maine State Representative Laurel Libby. I've talked to her a bunch in the past. And the reason for that is because it seems like she's the only state representative in Maine who's really spending any meaningful time fighting for the rights of women in the state.
The rest of the state legislature, or at least too much of it, has been overtaken by these lunatics who are pretending that men are women. And as a result, what they've done to Laurel Libby, who keeps speaking out against all of this, is they have stripped her ability to speak
That's right, to speak on the floor of the state legislature, and they've removed her ability to vote in legislative procedures. She's not allowed to vote in the legislature anymore. How does that work in the state of Maine? She has constituents. She has people who voted for her. She is a voice for some section of Maine, and that section of Maine, that district, is now not represented anymore because their representative has been muzzled.
She wasn't removed from the state body. She's still a part of it. She's not allowed to vote. She's not allowed to speak. And her sin is acknowledging third grade biology. That's her sin. Laura Libby.
So she's being martyred in the midst of all this because of the left's never ending sexism. They're never ending misogyny. They're never ending attacks and abuses on women. And this comes on the same week where the left was doing this ludicrous performance where they were celebrating these famous chicks, these rich chicks that they just sent into space for five seconds for an 11 minute pillow fight. They send them up there.
And then they come back and then they say, well, this is a huge thing for women. This connects us with the eternal feminists and Katy Perry. She said, oh my goddess, when she was in midair. This is the lunatic incoherence of the left, which goes at one moment from celebrating supposed female empowerment when rich chicks get to fly out of space to the next where they pretend that women don't actually exist as a meaningful biological category and that men can steal their honors. Yeah.
So remember that name, Laurel Libby from Maine. My suspicion is that that's not, this is definitely not the last you're going to hear from her. And certainly not today because she'll be live with me on the Vince show coming up on radio later today. Really, really wild. Deb, Deb with 17 saying the battle's over and in women's sports is just a precursor to loss of women and women's rights. And eventually Sharia law, mark my words. I see it creeping in.
Look, the subjugation of women is all of the rage. That's the point here. That's the point. It's to cheat them out of their honors and the things that we've created to literally protect women in fair play. Amazing. All right. We've got some more swatting incidents going on. Speaking of women being victimized, did you see that Cheryl Atkinson
The journalist was just attacked in another swatting attack. A lot of conservatives have been attacked this way, where lefties decide that they want to scare the hell out of conservatives that they don't like and to imperil them to the point that there have been people who've been killed in these swatting attacks. As SWAT teams show up thinking they're arriving to a crisis situation at the home, when of course no such thing is actually going on.
I've got more details coming up on that in just a moment. I want to go through that with you, some of the things we're learning and the role that FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino is now playing in trying to get to the bottom of this. That's all ahead.
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And there's Major. Come here, buddy. Major does not like swaddings. Not a fan. Not a fan of swaddings. There's the dog. Actually, I have a – I've been holding back from telling you all this. Not on purpose, just because she's not quite as well-behaved as Major. I have another dog named Raina.
another rescue. And, um, the reason we got Raina, Raina's, Raina's troubled. Raina's, Raina's working through her issues. You know, she was actually, she was, I think she was pretty traumatized. She was pretty abused before we got her. So we've been trying to work with her to calm her down, but she loves running with major. So every morning, first thing in the morning, I'm always the first one up in our house and I let these dogs out. They run like
The reason Major's constantly lying down in studio when he's here, he's sapped of his morning energy. These dogs run hard every day, which is great. I love seeing the dogs run hard. They have a great time. The only challenge is on rainy days. What do you do for the rain, dog owners out there? The dogs come in caked in mud every day.
I've got one of these cups that has these little rubber like spines inside the cup and you fill the cup up with warm water and then you stick their paws in it and then it scrapes all the mud off of their paws. And then I just take old rags and I rub all the mud off these dogs, kind of wipe them off. You know, you do what you got to do. But whatever solutions you have for muddy dogs, I will take that. I will take that very much.
Oh, look at this guy. Some idiot. Drift says, Vince is controlled opposition. I don't even know what the hell that means. Thank you for that. Hey, let me, yes, because I'm talking about Major and my mud cleaning routine. That's right. I was given the orders to do that. Hey, let me get into these swatting attacks now as the left keeps attacking people here through and trying to get them killed. Let's be clear about what this is. These are acts of terrorism. These are acts of terrorism.
And they continue. Just overnight, we got some more information from Cheryl Atkinson, the great reporter. She indicated that it was happening once again to her and said that there was a swatting to her house and she had notified the local FBI. And she didn't get the kind of response that she was hoping for from these guys. She said that she reported a swatting at her house yesterday.
and, uh, and told the local, the local FBI office and that they were like, Hey, we don't know if anybody will call you back, but maybe they will. Maybe not. Cheryl Atkinson said, well, I hope they do. They need to gather the information because they didn't ask for the screenshots of the swatting texts that I have or the pizza delivery emails or other stuff. And they said they didn't need the local police case number. So that's
Very troublesome. That's that's worrying that you get a local FBI branch that is telling anybody it doesn't have to be Cheryl Atkinson. It doesn't have to be a famous person. It could be anybody who's being swatted that maybe we'll get back to you. Maybe we won't. So one hopes that Cheryl Atkinson gets a better response than that. Now, I will say.
To the credit of Dan Bongino, the FBI deputy director, he responded to all of this. It seemed pretty clear to me that he was responding to what happened with Cheryl Atkinson. Quote, swatting is deadly serious. The potential for serious injury or death is high.
I've asked our team to double efforts to locate the people and or groups behind it. I'm on the road, that is, in our field offices handling other sensitive matters, but I'll be monitoring the progress and I hope to have some updates for you soon. So I think we can take that from Dan as meaning we will be getting updates soon on what is being done about swatting. You can see in the comments here, one of the responses immediately from Sean Farish, who's so talented. The guy is a great conservative, also a great,
President Trump impressionist. He responded because he too has been swatted. He said, thank you, Dan. We want these people brought to justice. I have faith that in due time it will happen. So things like this never happen again. Sean, by the way, is another one who I think I've got scheduled today for the radio show. So I'm going to be talking to Sean too on the radio program today about his experience with all of this. But this got me thinking, what is
the FBI doing here? How are they handling it up until this point? I'm glad that Dan is getting involved. That gives us a little bit more confidence that maybe we'll get some clear answers and some clear consequences here for these terrorists. But I'd like to know what has happened so far. And here is one indication for you that I think is a little bit edifying. At least it gives us a good impression of what's going on. According to CBS in late March,
This report came out. It's a pizza order leads to a huge police response in suburban Chicago swatting. And one of the reasons I want to dwell on this story is the pizza component to all of this. I've mentioned before that the people who are being swatted are being sent pizzas, pizzas. Now, on first blush, that may sound just like some sort of trolly move. Oh, there's pizza, pizzas being sent.
and it's just meant to be like a calling card or something, like a Home Alone, the wet bandits. They flood the house every time. We're the wet bandits, Harry and Marv. You kind of think maybe that's the game plan here. Send a pizza. It's a calling card for these types of terror attacks. But there is definitely something more to this. One thing that I keep hearing from –
People who have taken a close look at this and are being subjected to it is they believe that this is designed to be a means by which to verify that the person is at home, that they send the pizza in order to confirm that the person is at home. Now, if you're the terrorist who's making that phone call,
One would assume that you're going to have some sort of way to determine that the pizza was successfully delivered. Maybe that is through a pizza delivery app where you see it indicates on the app that it's been delivered to let them know that somebody is at the house. That could be a part of this. But there's another element to these pizzas that deserves some attention here.
What we've learned about the pizza delivery is that in some cases, these pizza apps have been used in order to induce the SWAT itself. The FBI reporting in March that they're seeing a growing problem of false emergency calls designed to trigger a significant police response. These false reports of hostage situations, kidnappings, and bombing threats
put both first responders and innocent people in jeopardy. They say last year alone, at least 600 people were victims of swatting, according to the FBI, at least 600. And in fact, there was an innocent man in Kansas who was killed by responding officers during one swatting attack. The FBI's special agent, Siobhan Johnson, said that the Bureau has actually created a special unit of 700 individuals from 350 law enforcement agencies across the country
to collect data to identify these patterns and solutions. The command center was aimed at allowing local police to work with us in real time to track these swatting incidents across jurisdictions anywhere they're occurring. CBS reports on a family called the Adkins family. They say they were victims of this kind of swatting in February of this year. Aurora police descended on their home at midnight one night with officers telling them to come outside, questioning whether they had weapons and wanted to search their home.
So John and his wife, Jennifer, were confused and afraid. John comes out. He puts his hands up. There were officers with shields and guns pointed at him. They had no idea that the police were there because a 911 call claimed that the husband was holding his wife and children hostage. So they walk out there. Eventually, the wife walks out. Ma'am, can you step out for a second? She comes out in her bathrobe, puts her arms up. You can see a picture of her here standing in her bathrobe.
And then police then asked to search the home, which then they did. They let them do that. And they found out everybody was safe. And John, the man who is the homeowner, found out. He goes, I think I'm being swatted. He was being swatted. At some point during the interaction, the cops asked him if I ordered a pizza. He continued. John said he thought it was an interesting question given the circumstances. Police questioned him about a pizza order and a plea for help that was included in the order. This is the key here.
John responded, he was dumbfounded. He said, no, I didn't order a pizza. Two minutes ago, I was up in my bed, you know, sleeping naked. I didn't order pizza. Why are you asking this question? John said. One officer explained what happened. Someone placed an online order from this location saying in the order, in the comment section, please send help. My husband has a gun pointed at me and my children, said the officer on the body camera video.
After getting that plea for help, a Domino's worker then called 911 and police continued investigating. John then saw a Domino's pizza delivery driver drive past the swatting scene. So here's something that is not receiving enough attention. Some of these terrorists are using the messaging feature
of the pizza delivery app, you know, where you add an additional comment, like, hey, make sure there's plenty of pepperoni on the pizza or whatever you want to add your message to the store. And they're saying, please send help. My husband has a gun pointed at me and my children. So you're a Domino's worker. And so what do you think when you receive a message like that? What are you supposed to do with that?
And so presumably these pizza workers, they see it and they go, "Holy crap." And so they make a phone call to 911. They say, "Hey, I just got this message over this pizza app about what's going on at this house." And that induces a SWAT response. So you can see what's happening. The terrorists are laundering their messages
through pizza operations. Domino's, for what it's worth, Domino's says that it's working directly with law enforcement these days, with the FBI to resolve these things. And my guess is that these big national chains are gonna be more on guard for these types of messages going forward, one would hope, or at least alerting their franchisees that something like this may happen. But can you imagine that we live in this world
where you have to notify all of your pizza franchisees that you may be used as a part of a terrorist attack. It's crazy. But this is a really big deal. Dan Bongino announcing that he is doubling resources now to get to the bottom of this. And these guys deserve the death penalty. The kind of people who would imperil the lives of somebody else in a terror attack like this, they deserve the death penalty. I'm sorry.
At the very least, to be locked up in jail and have the key thrown away. You're not playing around here. This is not some innocent prank. This is not something that people are going to walk away from. More people are going to be killed in these incidents, and they desperately have to stop. And meaningful consequences need to happen in public. You need the most dramatic possible perp walk you can possibly summon.
You need to get these guys out front and center, and you need to shame them in public spaces, across social media, all across television, on every available newspaper. They have to be shamed into submission in order to stop anybody else from attempting to do something like this because this will get people killed beyond the people that's already gotten killed. Wild.
Totally wild. So that's the update there. FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino offering more updates on this. I do think that we're approaching a period where we're going to start to see a lot more of the action that we're seeing. For instance, just this morning after going after the Attorney General of New York, Tish James,
This is now what we're on April 16th, January 20th, President Trump came into office. We are well past the time now where you think that the fact gathering phase has to have concluded in a lot of things being pulled together. And now I know what you're looking for. I know what I'm looking for. I'm looking for the prosecution phase. I'm looking for the consequences phase. I'm looking for the find out phase. A lot more of that. I'd like to see a lot more of that. I'm very hopeful we'll get that coming up shortly. Okay.
Another thing, let me see. We do have Democrat Senator Chris Van Hollen is headed to El Salvador right now to go see what he refers to as one of his constituents, which is one of the most ludicrous things I've ever seen. Democrats are so fond of violent, illegal foreign nationals. It really is reaching cartoonish levels. Here is Chris Van Hollen
It is an airport, and so therefore he is announcing his departure to San Salvador. Take a look at ridiculous Chris Van Hollen. - I'm here at the airport. I'm about to board my flight for San Salvador. The goal of this mission is to let the Trump administration, to let the government of El Salvador know that we are going to keep fighting to bring Albrego Garcia home. - The MS-13 guy. - Until he returns to his family.
I hope to meet with representatives of the government. I hope to have the chance to actually see Kilmar and see what his condition is. To see him. He wants to comfort him. He wants an Oprah-style conversation with the MS-13 guy. We are going to keep fighting because this is a miscarriage of justice. The Supreme Court has ruled nine. Somebody said it looks like he's wearing a dunce cap.
It does actually kind of look like he's somehow the shading behind him, a perfect little triangular dunce cap on top of the dunce from Maryland. Chris Van Hollen. Zero nine to zero that he was illegally taken out of the country and put in a prison now in El Salvador. And.
This is about due process. This is about just lies to you. You just brazenly lies to you. What bullies do is they begin by picking on the most vulnerable. But if we get rid of the rule of law due process, the United States, it's a short road from there to tyranny. Yeah, this guy doesn't care at all about the well-being of the country, the rule of law. If he did, you would hear him doing a video right now about Rachel Morin.
If he cared about the rule of law, he'd be all over the Rachel Morin case, whose killer from El Salvador was just convicted this week, jury deliberations lasting under an hour to convict the man who murdered, the illegal alien from El Salvador who murdered Rachel Morin. She was out jogging and he raped and he killed her. And Chris Van Hollen is not mounting any sort of big public case for her. Instead, he's doing it for other illegal aliens from El Salvador.
That's his view on this. Stephen Miller over at the White House, he was speaking out about this on the Fox News channel. And he said, this is ludicrous. Chris Van Hollen is acting like this guy's his constituent. He's not his constituent. He's the constituent of El Salvador.
Take a look. Senator Van Hollen seems to be under the very confused impression that this MS-13 terrorist is his constituent. He is President Bukele's constituent. He is President Bukele's citizen. He is President Bukele's resident. He is not a Maryland man. He is not a Maryland anything. He is an illegal alien from El Salvador with a deportation order from the United States.
He is not- Notice that Chris Van Hollen didn't give you any of these details. He just lied directly to your face. Legally even allowed to be in our country. Under the due process that these Democrats so venerate for illegal invaders, it is legally impermissible for him to have one more minute in this country. So we honored the law and obeyed the law by getting him out of this country. And if the entire Democrat party
was to work itself into a state of emotional hysteria to demand the return of illegal gang members and terrorists to our shores. And that 21% will soon be 15, and then it'll be 11, and then all they'll have left is the support of actual confirmed MS-13 members, and that will be the entire base of the Democrat Party. Yeah, so there's a rule of law question here, but Stephen Miller's also bringing up the politics of all this. How idiotic is it that the left is taking up for a position that nobody actually wants?
in the United States of America. Even if you had the chance to change the law, nobody in the country is going to change the law to say we need to bring in more MS-13 people. We need massive millions of foreign nationals pouring into our country. Nobody is doing that. In fact, cut six here. Look at Scott Jennings on CNN going, you want to do this, Democrats? Go ahead. This is your own suicide. This is your own funeral. Take a look.
The political point they're making is making it clear. If you're a violent person, if you've broken our immigration laws, we're here to keep Americans safe. And our opposition is apparently currently organizing congressional delegations to go to El Salvador to try to bring illegal aliens back to the United States. It's politically crazy. God, he has not been criminally charged.
what about due process that is a constitutional right that anyone in this country be my guest it's political malpractice to send democrat members of congress to el salvador to retrieve the illegal aliens is his senator from his country
live in Maryland. His senator, he's from El Salvador. Are you nuts? You want to do this? It's political malpractice. Go for it. I'm perfectly happy to let you do this. In fact, I probably shouldn't get in your way. You know, when you're screwing up this badly, I should just keep letting you do it.
I want to end on this point with the words of Rachel Morin's mother. I mentioned Rachel Morin, the mother of five, who the poor woman raped and murdered by an illegal from El Salvador, Chris Van Hollen's actual constituent, who he couldn't give two craps about. He doesn't care at all. He's not bothering his time at all with the loss of her life or anybody else who's actually an American citizen in Maryland. Here is Pacquiao.
Patty Morin, Rachel Morin's mother, responding to Chris Van Hollen's ludicrous anti-American publicity stunt. What are your thoughts on your senator going to bat for this illegal? But did he ever say anything to you and your family about your loss to ever call you, ever take the time to be with you?
No, actually, I'm very angry. I'm actually outraged, but I'm too sad at the moment to show anger at the same time. He he did not call our family. He did not give condolences. There was no action on the Democrat Democratic Party in any way from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Mayorkas, none of them, anyone here.
In Maryland, none of the senators did anything to help search for the murderer of my daughter. What are you? None of them. None of them. Chris Van Hollen didn't do any of this. You know, it's not that hard. You saw what he did. He was standing at an airport with a phone pointed at his face. This didn't take. Well, not not a lot of logistics involved in that particular thing. He just forms. He just forced some taxpayer funded staffer here. Hold the phone pointed at me. I'm going to talk about how great Abrego Garcia is.
But what about your state? What about your constituents? What about the people being murdered in your state? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. So again, let me just equip you with the obvious thing. Is anybody in your life who's still believing the lies about all of this, who's still buying into the legacy media's version of events? Tell them about Rachel Morin. Tell them what happened to her, to an American citizen, to a woman who just went out jogging, mother of five.
raped and killed inside of her own state by an illegal foreign national. She'd have never been there in the first place. And the Senator from that state, the Democrat, Chris Van Hollen, is right now trying to go get hot chocolate with the MS-13 dude in El Salvador. That's their priorities. Thanks for being with me for another episode of Vince. I'll be back tomorrow with every bit of information I can possibly dig up for you right here. Up next on Rumble, Stephen Crowder.