BREAKING: Bongino Closing In On The J6 Pipebomber & A Secret Epstein Video | Episode 53
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Hey there, welcome to Vince. Great to have you with us. Oh man, is it Thursday already? It's Thursday already. I was practically up all night. I was at a Metallica concert last night. By the way, if I ran into you at the Metallica concert, it was so awesome to see you. It was really great. I know there's somebody in the chat. I think his name is some version of Van Halen. It was good to see you there, buddy. We had a great time. Holy cow, what a great concert.

OK, but as I was processing all of the news that was occurring both while I was at the concert and this morning, a lot has happened. A lot has happened. James Comey is throwing a full blown shit fit right now about what's going on at the FBI. We'll get into the details of why Comey is doing that. The response from Kash Patel and Dan Bongino that's going on.

And also Susan Crabtree, the excellent RealClearPolitics reporter is gonna join us today as there's now cat fights going on at the Secret Service. She's got the exclusive reporting on this subject. We'll find out a little bit more about what's going on in the agency that's supposed to protect the president of the United States.

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but this sale won't stick around. So go to my Patriot supply.com slash Vince to stock up today. My Patriot supply.com slash Vince, my Patriot supply.com slash Vince. Yeah. Holy cow. The boys at Metallica still put on a great concert. It was cool by the way, to see all the, every generation of Metallica fan in attendance. This was at what they now call Northwest stadium in Landover, Maryland. It's where the Washington Redskins play. Um,

And it was cool. You get the original people who've been following them since the early 80s all out there. Then you get the kids and the grandkids, lots of little kids there. It was really, it's just a neat thing. Everybody just going absolutely wild. It was really funny walking into the stadium though, because they have signs out front that say no moshing.

No moshing. I can't even believe in 2025 I'm seeing signs about mosh pits, but apparently there's still a thing. People slamming into each other. And so you get into the stadium and then you're watching. We're sitting in the stands watching this, but on the field, of course, is all the pit action and everybody's standing there right next to the stage.

And of course people, there's a rock concert. So people don't follow the rules. They're moshing. Everybody's moshing. Not everybody. There was some moshing. What's funny is that the older though that they get, the moshing becomes more gentle. Nobody wants to tweak a hip or break an ankle or something. So they're sort of, they're slowly bumping off of each other as they're moshing in the middle of these rock songs. Honestly, really, really funny to watch. My kid loved it. Her best friend came. She loved it. Everybody was jamming out.

And of course, you know, just like all these concerts, they always save the big hits for the end. You know, Master of Puppets and Enter Sandman to close out the show. The only thing I regret about that, and I think this is as I get older, this is what I want. I just want them to play their hits a little earlier in the program so that the hardcore people can stay all the way to the end. And I can make my way to the parking lot to get into my car and get out. I can just, I'll listen to the rest of the songs, you know, on Spotify or something.

But, no, it's really cool. So, anyway, thanks to Metallica for throwing a great concert. And thanks to everybody I ran into last night. Just great, great audience. The best damn audience in media. Really, really is. Okay. Let me get into what's going on with the FBI here. We've got James Comey doing some sort of stupid tour to sell his ridiculous fiction book. But in the process, he keeps issuing these calls to action messages.

Where he's pretending like he's just assessing what's going on in the FBI, but he's clearly sending a message to his forces that are still within the FBI, who he calls the career officials, that they need to undermine the Trump administration. They need to undermine you, the person who voted for President Trump, and they need to undermine the agenda that you voted for.

Take a look. Here's James Comey. This is on CNN. Cut to attacking, first and foremost, Dan Bongino, FBI Deputy Director Dan Bongino, on his priorities. He tweeted out this week that he wants to make sure that we get to the bottom of public corruption cases involving the January 6th pipe bomber, involving the cocaine that was found at the White House, and involving the leak of the Dobbs decision. All of these incidents.

intense American interests, Comey acts like they're meaningless and that Dan Bongino's playing to a very particular audience. Take a look. - Something supported by a lot of conservatives out there. What do you make of this?

It's a little confusing to me, honestly. I'm sure it's a huge adjustment to go from being a podcaster to being the deputy director of the FBI. But I don't understand this tweet. First of all, I assume that the investigation of the pipe bomb that was found on January 6th was never closed. The FBI never closes such a thing. So I guess it means they're going to focus on it more.

And as to the other things, I thought the Supreme Court marshal had investigated the leak of the opinion, the draft opinion. I don't know what the FBI's role is there. Cocaine at the White House, I thought the Secret Service investigated that. So I don't follow it and understand it. I also don't understand who the audience is for this tweet. The FBI often...

calls for public assistance or in matters of great public concern will announce an investigation to reassure the public. This seems much more narrowly targeted, maybe to a former podcast audience. Maybe to a former podcast audience. Now, who could he be talking about here? Who is he attempting to slander? Who are the insane people who'd be interested in getting to the bottom of this? Now, of course, he's talking about you.

James Comey is now not satisfied with merely writing 8647 on the beach and attacking President Trump, saying he needs to be unseated. He's now set his sights on you, people who think that Dan Bongino is a guy that's worth listening to and are grateful that he's in the administration now working on the agenda of the American people.

James Comey is attacking you and he's saying that it's only crazy people. It's only crazy people who would dare be interested in getting to the bottom of the January 6th pipe bomber or the leak of the Dobbs decision or the cocaine in the White House. Why would the FBI be wasting their resources on this? Comey asks.

The answer to that question is because it's of intense American interest to get to the bottom of that. The January 6th pipe bomber case is not merely about a threat to the RNC and the DNC, but instead, more sincerely, it's about the corruption of our government. Why the most theatrical portion of the events of January 6th just disappeared from public consciousness? Why is that? And what role did the government play in that?

I've got more news on that coming up specifically from Dan Bongino. I'm going to share that with you. But there's Comey lashing out, lashing out. And you know why he's lashing out? He's lashing out because these guys, Cash and Dan, are over the target right now.

And James Comey doesn't know how to handle it. So he goes on to a program that, by the way, has lower ratings than any iteration of Dan Bongino's podcast. So I love the whole little pejorative shot that Comey is taking. Oh, I don't know, some former podcaster, as if Dan didn't have a meaningful career in law enforcement prior to his career in media.

And the attacks he's making on cash as well, as if cash wasn't serving at some of the highest levels of the government, wasn't doing the kinds of investigations that gave him expertise into the job that he is now in. Comey is a ludicrous figure and he's emotionally incontinent. Here's more from that James Comey thing with Wolf Blitzer. Take a look. Here's.

Cut three, Comey attacking both Dan and Cash, saying they're unqualified for the job. And so I hope the career people are able to support the director and the deputy director. There are lots of people in the FBI who know what they're doing. I hope these two guys are letting them guide them. You think they know what they're doing?

The career people know what they're doing. No, no, no. The career people know what they're doing, but the new director and the deputy director. Nothing in their life or their career gives me confidence that they know anything about leading an organization like that. And so I would have serious doubts. I bet they do internally about whether they have doubts. Great. Let the people know what they're doing. Give you advice and listen to them.

Okay. All right. So, so this guy is a preposterous figure for a bunch of reasons. Look, Kash Patel was the chief of staff to the secretary of defense for

He's worked at some of the highest levels of one of the biggest agencies in the entire federal government. He's familiar with that. He worked on he was the lead investigator working with Devin Nunes into the Russian collusion hoax. Now, I don't need to give you his full bio. I don't need to fully defend him. He can defend himself. But this idea that, oh, he's completely out of his depth. He's never served in a leadership position. He's never he doesn't know what he's doing inside of this agency.

It's poppycock. It's garbage from James Comey. This is bitterness on Comey's part that these guys are ripping apart the destructive system

structure that Comey has built inside of that Hoover building. That's, this is Comey spazzing out over Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. And so, so that's what you're seeing there. Now, Kash has an opportunity. He has responded to this. Kash talked to Brett Baier yesterday. It aired on the Fox News channel yesterday. And he talked about the fiasco that Comey has created with

at the FBI and in the country. Take a look here, cut eight, Kash Patel, the current director of the FBI, talking about the past director, James Comey. - That's James Comey. - If he wants to come after me, no problem. I've been living rent free in that guy's head for years, and that's just a bonus. Do you know how many copycats we've had to investigate as a result?

of that beachside venture from the former director. Is that right? Do you know how many agents I've had to take offline from chasing down child sex predators, fentanyl traffickers, terrorists, because everywhere across this country, people are popping up on social media and think that a threat to the life of the president of the United States is a joke and they can do it because he did it.

So Cash is explaining with some sadness that right now the FBI has to take people off of very important cases to put them on an urgent case, which are the never ending threats that James Comey has induced in the United States. And Comey with his oh shucks attitude, oh, I didn't know it was my wife. We were walking on the beach and she was talking about, this is interesting. You should take a picture of it. You should post it to your Instagram.

James Comey has spurred a cascade of threats against the president of the United States, a guy who's been nearly assassinated on multiple occasions. And those assassins induced by quoting people like James Comey on the American left who say things like President Trump is a threat to democracy. Democracy is on the ballot. We need to stop him.

James Comey writing in seashells 8647 and posting to his social media account has led to chaos in the United States that the FBI is now responding to. That's what's happening. And listen to what Cash says. He says this is a reallocation of resources. We could be going after terrorists. We could be going after child predators. We could be going after all these other things. And now we've got to reassign these agents and analysts to go after threats to the president of the United States because of Comey.

Remember what the FBI did under people like James Comey and Christopher Wray. They would take agents off of important cases and put them on political operations to attack Republicans, conservatives, Republicans.

So under Christopher Wray, under the last FBI director, as the biggest FBI investigation in American history gets launched into January 6th people, they were taking agents off of terror cases. They were taking agents off of child predation cases.

Whistleblower Steve Friend revealed that. That happened to him. He was taken off of child predation cases and instead assigned to go after American citizens who were exercising constitutional rights, including parents who were going to school board meetings and they would have FBI agents sit outside in the parking lot and write down the license plate numbers of the vehicles who would go to the school board meetings. The FBI was...

Allocating attention and focus on treating Christians as if they are radicals, Catholics, as if they are radicals for going to traditional Latin masses. That is what the FBI did under people like James Comey and Christopher Reagan, a politicized Federal Bureau of Investigation. And why James Comey absolutely deserved to be fired from the get go. He should not have made it as far as he did into the Trump administration in the first place.

So yeah, you wanna talk about allocating resources and who's actually spending it on stuff that's worth it? Cash and Dan, not James Comey, not James Comey. James Comey is creating trouble now, a lot of it. Cash is not the only person to talk about what James Comey has done here, the craziness that he's created. Dan Bongino, let me go to cut 12 now. Dan Bongino explained this morning on Fox in an appearance on Fox and Friends. I'll talk all about the appearance and what I think of it, why it matters.

but he talks about Comey and the threats he's created and how much of a child this oversized goon is. Take a look. I got to tell you, of all the things that have surprised me in the close to now three months I've been here is the depravity of Jim Comey. This man is a disgrace to the badge, the FBI and the country. What he's doing right now

Implying a threat towards the president and blaming your wife about it. And let me just add about James Comey, you know, St. Comey, who walks around demoralizing to everyone how wonderful of a human being he is. What you said is absolutely accurate. We have wasted countless man hours now running out

tips to our tip line about people putting 86 47 because of Jim Comey, because he cannot control himself and his emotions. He is a child. He is a big child. And let me tell you one more thing. Jim Comey wants you to Jim Comey taking a shot at the president. Oh, look at me. I'm such a victim. The president's going after me. He's making a ton of money on this book. The only person that got prosecuted was the president. Jim Comey. We're finding stuff even now.

We're finding stuff even now. I'll get to that in just a moment. The stuff that they've been finding is,

But so here you have both Cash and Dan going, Comey is creating all sorts of problems. He created problems when he was in the agency. And now he's outside the agency creating problems, creating threats to the president of the United States. And as you heard James Comey say a moment ago, he's obviously trying to motivate the so-called career officials within the FBI to undermine the agenda of the United States. Comey is playing with fire.

here he is playing with fire now elsewhere in that interview bongino uh uh addressed um a question dan addressed uh the obvious question that comes to my mind that comes to your mind well why can't what can we charge comey with can call me be charged with something can we get this menace off the streets uh and he addresses the 86 47 thing and he says look here's the deal we have to bring cases that we know are going to withstand uh at both the prosecution and a judge

If there's any wiggle room for interpretation where the guy can escape it, like saying, oh, 86, 47. Oh, shucks. I didn't know it meant you got to assassinate Trump. I didn't know that's what it was implying. Dan is Dan said outright. This has to be able to withstand scrutiny by a magistrate and not just get thrown out. So we're bringing we're going to bring cases that we can actually get victories on. That's what he's saying this morning. So that's that's an important piece of this.

Now, let me go back to Kash Patel for a moment. And should I go back to Kash? I'll wait on Kash for a minute. Let's see.

Yeah, let's go to Cash. We'll go to Cash. We got cut nine here. Cash Patel last night on Fox talking about the Epstein death. Remember the Epstein death and the Epstein files. This has been a lot. We've all been scrutinizing this. What's going on here? Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. This is what you're telling us now. So what happened? What led you to that conclusion? You know, Dan is a big receipts guy. I'll get to that in a moment. He wants, you know, and so am I. I want to see the evidence to support that.

We've got some more coming on that. First, here's Kash Patel on Jeffrey Epstein. Cut nine. Take a look. There are the Epstein thing. You dealt with Maria. You said, as far as you know, he killed himself. I'm telling you, he killed himself. The other thing on the Internet is the Epstein files. What's the answer to that? The answer to that is the same as everything else. I'm not going to.

withhold information from the American public ever. But I'm also not going to rush to get it out there in a format in which they can't rely on it. So on the Epstein matter or any other matters, we are diligently working on that. And it takes time to go through years of investigations, years of political maneuvering, and years of cover-up to get the American people what they deserve. And that's what I'm going to give them. Years of cover-up. That's an interesting final...

piece of that sentence, years of cover up to get the American people what they deserve. Okay, so that's fascinating. And what that tells us is that they are gonna be releasing more information about Epstein. In fact, Dan added some color inside of those lines this morning.

Dan Bongino revealed that there is video footage from Jeffrey Epstein's wing of the jail. Take a look. Here's cut 15. Dan, this morning, this video he just revealed this morning is imminently going to be released now for the consumption of the American people. Take a look. I,

I am not asking anyone to believe me. I'm telling you what's there and what isn't. Right. There is nothing in the file at this point on the Epstein case. And there's going to be a disclosure on this coming shortly. We are working through some. There is video.

That is something the public does not know. There's video of him killing himself. No, no, not the actual act. But the entire MCC Bay, it was only one camera. There's video that when you look at the video, and we will release, that's what's taken a while on this. We are working on cleaning it up to make sure you have an enhanced. And we're going to give the original so you don't think there were any shenanigans. You're going to see there's no one there but him. Right.

There's just nobody there. So I say to people all the time, if you have a tip, let us know. But there's no DNA. There's no audio. There's no fingerprints. There's no suspects. There's no accomplices. There's no tips. There is nothing. If you have it, I'm happy to see it. There's video clear as day. He's the only person in there and the only person coming out. You can see it.

Okay, well, that's fascinating. Remember, the thing we know about the video cameras is at least the cameras that were closest to the cell, inoperable for some reason, not working. The guards didn't take their rounds that night. They falsified the records about their rounds. In other words, there's a lot of disinformation

seat going on and a lot of suspicious coincidences all happening at the same time as Jeffrey Epstein dies, apparently in that jail cell. And so Dan's addition to this story today is that there is a camera that shows some, what sounds like a bottleneck, a single point of access.

uh, to that wing demonstrating that it was only Epstein who entered and exited that wing. So we will apparently at some point in the near term, see that that's a brand new piece of information from Dan, uh, which conveys by the way, his sincerity about tackling this issue. It's not merely, Oh, I looked at the file. There's he killed himself. There's nothing else to see here. Let's move on to other issues. Uh,

he's being very respectful of the fact that the American people want real receipts and real answers here. So a video to come on that, apparently. Now, that doesn't rule out a lot of things. One, pay attention to Dan's language here. It's the same thing he said last time he was asked about this in his joint interview with Cash, with Maria Bartiromo. He said, according to the file, in other words,

The official record keeping on the subject that the FBI indicates that Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. That's according to what Dan has access to. Now, that, of course, means are there things he doesn't have access to? Things he doesn't know yet as he's asking for more people to come forward? Is that him indicating that he remains concerned that we're not being told the full story?

Certainly sounds like that to me, but he is indicating once again, that he's just relying on, this is what's inside of the files at the FBI. The other piece that's worth remembering here is to what extent, if we've got a bad actor at play,

to what extent was Epstein allowed to kill himself? Let's say that that actually was accomplished. And by the way, you know, like one of the forensic examiners here, Dr. Michael Baden, he looked at this and he goes, "I just don't see it. I don't see how he could do it given the nature of the fractures in his neck."

Those are he's in all of his years and he's been doing this for a long time. He's never seen a suicidal hanging that resulted in three fractures like that. Instead, that would only be typically the result of an actual murder. Someone else, a homicide would have to do that, according to his assessment. But let's say this is the one occasion in his entire career that he encounters it, that it's a suicide. To what extent was suicide?

given the space, if they know he's suicidal, are they giving him the space and the implements to do this himself? This all matters, especially in an environment where the guards falsified the records. Yeah, that's right away. You've got an active...

You've got an act of deceit going on on the part of the guards. You know, and, you know, the innocent explanation to the extent that can be innocent is, oh, we just we fell asleep and we didn't want anybody to know. OK, but it's not good enough for me. One of the most high profile cases ever, ever. We need some answers on this. And so there you go. Dan Bongino saying we're going to get a couple more in the form of this video, video evidence coming out. OK, so.

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Blackout coffee. Okay. Let's see here. Okay. So I've got more from Cash and Dan on a number of things. Let's go to Cash Patel now. This is cut 10. Cash Patel talking about January 6th and what went down there. Take a look.

More importantly, people have had questions about January 6th and whether or not there were FBI sources, not agent sources, on the ground during January 6th. And I told you I would get you the definitive answer to that, and we have. And we are in the process, again, of working with our partners to divulge that information, and it is coming. And I will tell you this.

The answer to that question will surprise and shock people because of what past FBI leaders have said about it. Former FBI Director Chris Wray eventually admitted to Congress there were 26 FBI confidential human sources in around the Capitol on January 6th, but not actual agents. Can you say that's true? Are there more than that? What you're learning from that? I can say that that is definitely a piece of the truth. Why it took...

a ton of time for uh and questioning in congress for the director to get that point is what i'm trying to eliminate from the fbi they were concealing that for a long time they were trying to hide that detail uh and so uh kash patel there this is uh what you're listening to is a steady drumbeat of uh transparency initiatives going on at the fbi these guys are not paying lip service to this topic

They're hearing you. They're hearing me. They're hearing all of us. And they're saying, OK, we're trying to get this information out to you. We care about it. In fact, few people know more about it than Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. So they're they're plugging away. And for that, I'm grateful about all of that. The events of January 6th. Now, on that January 6th stuff. Also, the night of January 5th matters a great deal.

The pipe bomb investigation, the pipe bomb investigation, what the heck happened with that story? That matters a lot. And Dan Bongino has made it his mission. It is crystal clear that it has been his mission. It was his mission before he got there as deputy director of the FBI to get to the bottom of that. Now he's in a position to do something about it. Ed Martin, the former U.S. attorney, the head of the Weaponization Task Force now,

has been working with Dan. He told us that. He told you, he told this audience about that. I've been working with Dan on getting to the bottom of the pipe bomb case. And Dan gave an update this morning on that subject. And he said,

Actually, we've had some late-breaking developments. Cut 14, Dan Bongino on what they're learning now. You know, we had two pipe bombs planted on January 6th. I mean, we were told by partisan actors out there this was the insurrection. The world was going to fall apart, and no one seemed to show any interest in this case. The second we got in, I put a team on it, and I said, I want answers on this. And I'm pretty confident that we're closing in on some suspects.

The reason, by the way, I use social media with these cases, I'm trying to communicate on social media. Nothing's by accident, guys. I do nothing by accident. Every time I put a tweet out, we get tips. We got a fascinating tip on one of these cases, one of the three. I want to say which one, but I'm pretty confident that we're going to close out one of them, hopefully shortly. And then the cocaine in the White House, you know, I saw someone on social media, which is fine. Everybody's entitled to an opinion. We work for you. But I don't care about the case. Yeah, I do.

I was a Secret Service agent. A potentially hazardous material made its way into the White House. Nobody seems to know how it got there, and nobody seemed to investigate it fully. Like, you know, what planet do we live on where that's not of public interest?

yeah all right so here you have dan announcing this morning that they are now closing in he says on suspects in the january 6 pipe bomb saga uh which is a brand new piece of information so there's uh there's that from dan uh and then finally from dan this morning and then i'll just give you my quick quick assessment of what i think of all these interviews because i think they have a great deal of meaning and i want them to do more of these

um here is dan talking about the comey era at the fbi here's cut 13 where dan says that we're now finding information that was intentionally hidden from us that was bunked away in an effort to prevent us from seeing it but we've found it take a look wait till you read this stuff that's coming out does he still but does he still have loyalists in the building because when i hear the fbi director saying you guys are finding boxes that are hidden

Okay, how does that happen in the bureau? Well, we were there a couple of weeks, and luckily there were a lot of people up there who grabbed us by the arm the minute we came in and said, thank you for being here. You know, we need to talk. There are people there who are really horrified at what happened. And there was a room, and we found stuff, a lot of stuff. A hidden room. I wouldn't call it hidden, but hidden from us at least and not mentioned to us.

And then we found stuff in there. And a lot of it's from the Comey era. And we are working our damnedest right now to declassify. And just so you know, because I get the public, I totally understand people saying, well, do it now. The process is not all the information is ours to declassify. Some is other intelligence agencies. It's not. We literally can't do it. Once that gets done and that gets out there and you read some of the stuff we found that, by the way, was not processed through the normal procedure, digitizing it, putting in FBI records.

We found it in bags hiding under Jim Comey's FBI. You're going to be stunned. You're going to be stunned by what we found. We're in the process of declassifying it for release to the American people. Is Dan lying to you? Is Dan telling a lie here, Chet? Or is he telling the truth? The answer is abundantly clear to me. Of course he's telling the truth. And he's soldiering away at getting the answers out.

He's soldiering away. So there you go. A good update from Dan Bongina. Lastly, on this subject, before we get to our guests, I just want to say, I saw Dan post the other day. Yeah, the chat is all in on Dan telling the truth here. Rightfully so. I saw Dan post the other day that they've limited the number of media interviews they've been doing, Cash and Dan have, up until now, because they wanted to keep the focus on the work, he said. My outside advice is do more of these interviews. I realize you're limited in what you can say,

And so a lot of what we're left to do is kind of try and read between the lines and try and suss out a little bit more about what might be going on behind the scenes that we don't yet know. But I think it's totally worthwhile for these guys to have a lot of conversations with the public. This is an agency that's desperately, desperately in need of a credibility restoration. And the only way to restore the credibility is maximum transparency, maximum conversation and maximum communication with the American people.

So just maximize that as much as possible, fellas. This is really worthwhile. Now, one last just editorial note for the show, because I've been asked a million times, people ask, well, you should interview Dan, have Dan on the show. I would love to. Here's what I'm running into. And I'll just be speaking of maximum transparency. This is the issue here. Silverlock, this is a Paulo Bongino operation, what we do with the podcast.

I'm not going to put Dan on the show because whatever we do on this program would be to the financial benefit, ultimately, of Paula Bongino. So I'm not going to do that with this program for that reason. I haven't even, by the way, I've never even talked about this with these guys. I'm just saying straight up, I'm not creating unnecessary conflicts of interest for them. That's not going to happen. Now, that does not preclude me from talking to Cash.

I want Kash Patel. Believe me, I've been working to try and get the FBI director on. I think it'd be great to have him come by and answer our questions. But that's where I am. The other piece is that doesn't preclude me from talking to Dan on radio either. I could talk to Dan on the big radio show, 12 to 3 nationwide each day, Eastern time. So we've got some options here. But just to give you a sense of what's going on, I...

My goal, and I know Dan's goal for sure, is maximum transparency, maximum credibility, maximum integrity. And that's always the way we're going to do this. Always.

So more interviews. I'd love to see him do more. And I'll take whatever interviews I can get in whatever form I can get it for sure. And you guys are the best. Some good information coming out. All right. Hold on in just a moment. We've got Susan Crabtree stopping in. We're going to talk to her about everything that's going on, including especially with the Secret Service. Before we get there, I want to thank this sponsor who just makes this program so much better by being a part of it.

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All right, joining us right now from RealClearPolitics, fantastic reporter Susan Crabtree is on the show. Susan, good to have you with us today.

Well, thanks so much for having me, Vince. I just want to say you're doing a fantastic job. It's so great to see good people in Washington getting ahead and doing well. And you've always asked the best questions of me, especially with regard to the Secret Service. So it's a pleasure to be on with you today. Well, it's always so nice to talk to you and you make it so easy because you're a good reporter and you always have something new and interesting to share.

I guess I should ask, because I know you know Dan Bongino, too, and you were able to listen to some of what we were just talking about. What do you think of these guys, Cash and Dan, being in this role at the FBI right now? And what do you see, view, as how challenging the task is that's ahead of them? Well, they have to be, you know, sort of...

drinking from a fire hose at the same time, trying to provide more transparency, do far more than any administration has provided in terms of transparency. FBI is always just like the Secret Service, hidden behind this veil of secrecy and we don't disclose. So I think they're trying to do both. And I think it's excellent. I do think he's going to get to the bottom of some of these cases. And it's

pastime to restore integrity to the FBI. I really think that the FBI is part of the problem with this cocaine gate that I've written about before and Dan has reported on on the podcast several months ago. We have some of the same reporting on this. So I truly believe he's going to get to the bottom of that story and

I hope to be able to further that along in the next 24 hours or 48 hours. Oh, really? So you think you'll have new developments in the next 24 hours potentially or 48? Yeah, I do. I have the FOIA documents from...

the Secret Service on this cocaine issue. And one of the key things that I think is critical here is that the place where they found this has changed according to these documents. There was a Protective Intelligence Division document within this cache that I have that says it was found, the cocaine was found on the lobby floor. There was a redacted section before the lobby floor. It was a very small redaction.

And then it's switched completely and they have pictures of it in a, be in these cubbies and the West vestibule entrance. And I think that is ridiculous. That's, that's just completely, um, how can it be both the floor and inside a cubby? Uh, I think they did that to open it up to more trafficking that, that was a heavy, more heavily trafficked area in the cubby.

You know, that, that, what, what that's, first of all, there's a lot going on there. One, if you're moving the position of it and then taking photos of it, you're, you're manipulating the evidence. You're, you're, you're destroying a crime scene, actually. The other thing is if you put it in the cubbies for people who don't visit the West Wing or haven't done that, when you go in, they have little lockers that you can lock your cell phone in, your personal belongings, because for most of the time, they just really don't want you to have your cell phone in all these various places in the West Wing. So you can lock your phone up.

And what that suggests to me, if somebody moved it from the floor to a cubby, what they're trying to convey is that it was an outsider, that somebody who was visiting the White House brought it with them. Nobody in the administration, no family members of the Biden family. No, no, no. This was an outsider who was visiting the White House. So so what you're telling us is that we were lied to about the location of the cocaine.

Well, it's completely disconnected. You have two documents saying two different things in their public statements. Don't adhere. Don't comport with the protective intelligence document saying it was found on the lobby floor. Now, I have...

People familiar with the situation trying to explain things to me from within Sign the Secret Service. But one of the main things I think is critical, and I'm emphasizing this for a very good reason, and I hope to be able to provide some clarity on this issue.

Is they are saying in their public statements all along that there was no camera surveillance. There was no camera footage. So you mean to tell me there was no camera footage outside of that vestibule to watch people coming in and out?

Well, then that's a security problem in and of itself. I doubt that's true. I seriously doubt that there was no camera footage of either the vestibule where they said the cocaine was found and or the lobby floor where the Protective Intelligence Division, who was one of the first people on the scene, along with the D.C. Fire Department,

They said it was found on the lobby floor. And the reporters at the time said, including myself, said that that lobby floor was in the east wing, that main lobby when you go into the front door of the White House.

So it is a discrepancy. Also, I have previous reporting saying that Kimberly Cheadle wanted to destroy the cocaine evidence. And there was pushback from both the uniform division chief at the time, the acting chief, Richard McCauley, and the forensic division chief, who was Glenn Dennis,

And but yet they did. There are documents saying that that cocaine was destroyed on the around July 13th. There was just an 11 day, 10 day, 11 day investigation total. OK, two quick questions. So just clarify for me, which lobby floor was the cocaine found on East Wing or West Wing? We don't we don't know. But the Protective Intelligence Division said lobby floor and the document has a little tiny redaction in front of it.

So in the FOIA and the documents that I got from the Freedom of Information Act, actually, it was Judicial Watch who did the Freedom of Information Act and followed up on it and pressed the Secret Service. They didn't want to provide these documents to get a hold of them. And so...

And that cocaine was destroyed. They got rid of the evidence. They quickly closed the investigation, destroyed the evidence and said, we'll just never know how it got there, which is the most absurd investigation I've ever heard of. And you said it was Kim Cheadle, the former secret service director who was pushing to have it destroyed. Remind me, who recommended Kim Cheadle for the job of secret service director?

Yeah, that's a very good point, Vince. It was she was handpicked by Jill Biden, who got to know her when she was on the detail, the vice president's detail. And she Jill Biden was instrumental in getting her a job at PepsiCo, too, in between serving for the Secret Service and becoming the director, being brought in by when Biden became president to be the director. So she owes a lot to Jill Biden, the Biden family.

So that is a conflict of interest and that is a deep conflict of interest there. And we know now what Jill Biden is capable of in terms of protecting and covering up the cognitive problems with her husband. So, yeah.

It raises a lot of questions in my mind. Yes. And there is, I just seriously doubt that there is no surveillance footage of where this was found. That I want to stress completely because I believe that it exists.

So if it exists, why are they telling time and time again on public statements that there was no camera surveillance? I don't think that makes sense. And if there was no camera surveillance, that is a security problem in and of itself. So Kimberly Cheadle, there was this conflict that Kimberly Cheadle wanted this, the cocaine distribution,

disposed of, destroyed. And we do see from the documents that it looks like it was destroyed in around July 13th. But my question is, supposedly the forensic division chief and the uniform division chief were pushing back on that saying, we have to hold this. There's a rule inside the Secret Service for five to seven years.

Now, I'm being told by other sources, oh, well, narcotics, we dispose of them. But what about the baggie that contains the narcotics? Does that include it in that narcotics disposal? Because there are also tubes in an envelope, a separate piece of evidence that has been preserved. Those tubes carry DNA, the DNA that supposedly the FBI found on the baggie.

So they are saying at the time back when they issued public statements and closed the investigation very quickly within 10, 11 days that there was insufficient DNA to get a match to run it by their criminal database at the FBI or the Secret Service. I am highly suspect of that statement.

the FBI at the time you know was corrupted. Can we trust that the FBI wasn't involved in the cover-up and couldn't find the DNA? That's an open question in my mind. Yes. And Dan Bangino can go back and look at that and go interview the people that made that statement. I'm told there's a document out there saying there was insufficient FBI and that's what the Secret Service used to make that determination. I'm also told that there was a partial DNA hit

on this baggie, but they decided that they didn't want to run it against the people that they had the partial DNA hit. And that's a forensic term that can mean a number of different things, but it can mean that they did find a blood relative that when they ran it against a criminal database that contains DNA samples from different criminals, different criminal acts.

So we know we didn't find any fingerprints. But Dan, because of that key part, and I asked why Secret Service, why? You have the capability to test for DNA and fingerprints. Why did you hand it over to the FBI? From what I'm hearing from sources familiar with the investigation, they say that's because they wanted integrity. So they handed over the ability to find the DNA and the fingerprints to the FBI. Well, we all know

that the FBI was severely politicized at the time. So, you know...

You know, what you just described about Kim Cheadle being Jill Biden's handpicked person, I should also remind people, Dr. Kevin O'Connor is a close family friend too, the White House physician, who now stands very credibly accused of covering up the cognitive decline of Joe Biden during his presidency. So this is an ongoing theme with the Bidens. They control some of the most powerful people around them.

And then it just so happens that all of the most meaningful investigations and questions never get answered. So that's been an unfortunate trend. I wanna talk to you about what's going on at the Secret Service now. You've got some brand new information out, great exclusive reporting on some of the Secret Service agents who are tasked with protecting Barack Obama

getting into a physical altercation outside of his DC residence. Let me first play the phone call that you shared earlier this week. This is a radio call back from a Secret Service agent back to her supervisor calling for, well, just take a listen. - I'm gonna get your supervisor out here at Delta Two immediately before I whoop your girl's ass.

Before I whoop this girl's ass, that's one uniformed Secret Service agent talking about another. And then here's the video footage that you've shared this week, Susan Crabtree, of these women fighting outside of a police cruiser, shoving one another. It looks like there may be a third person involved here. What are we looking at?

Yeah, we're looking at this senior aid officer, uniformed division officer, physically attacking the woman officer who came, that was more junior, and came to relieve her because she was, I'm told by sources familiar with it, that she was late to provide a push, what they call a push, meaning some relief to her either for a break or for complete death.

transition of shifts. So, and also I'm told that she, that this, the senior agent officer was upset that the junior one brought a Dodge Durango, didn't bring the Dodge Durango, but brought a Ford Explorer. I mean, this is what is triggering this,

the senior uniformed division officer, that patrols the perimeter. The agents still protect Barack Obama, but this was in a patrol car outside at one of the checkpoints outside of the residence.

Yeah, this is what took place. And it didn't take much to trigger this officer. So it has all kinds of implications. And it's raising new questions about whether the DEI policies of Kim Cheol-ho was very aggressive. And under Barack Obama, both of those administrations, whether they're lingering at the Secret Service, whether Director Sean Curran is cleaning them up. And we need to hear about that. What's going on? These officers have been...

uh suspended well these officers are demonstrating obviously a lack of professionalism and discipline uh and so that that suggests to the outside viewer that they were hired for some other reason uh you can't help but notice that they're women and that they're minorities and so the question becomes are they were they hired on that basis rather than their ability to protect someone like a secret service protectee in the case of president obama

That's exactly right. And there is, you should know that there has been a lot of turmoil, questions, discussions in the Secret Service community about whether DEI played a role in the assassination attempt itself. There was an agent who's still on the job named Rashid Ellis, who came forward a few months ago online and said, I reported on it at the time,

I believe that DEI contributed directly to the assassination attempts, uh, and that he was personally, uh, passed over for promotion. And he believed that quotas had a lot to do with that. And that promotion had to do with the, the drone, uh,

He wanted to be in the drone division, which they were looking for people at the time to do, but they said, no, you can't do that. And then they passed him over for a promotion. So, and a woman received that promotion. He said, the quotas were,

had something to do with that. Now, that was a big admission, but there's also a DEI lawsuit that a number of agents are joining and should be hitting anytime soon in the next couple of weeks. So I'm expecting that. My sources are telling me that, and I have reported on that lawsuit as well. I'm sorry, what is the substance of the lawsuit?

That the DEI policies are hurting the Secret Service and actually hurt individual agents from getting their merit-based promotions. Oh, I see. They were passed over because of considerations that had nothing to do with being a good Secret Service agent. I got it. Yeah, that is remarkable. So Sean Coran is the new Secret Service director. He was the head of President Trump's protective detail. He's seen...

famously in that photo, standing over the president wearing his sunglasses as the president just emerged from being shot on July 13th of last year. The president, in his loyalty to him, made him the head of the Secret Service, thinks he's the right guy for the job. But is he, according to your reporting, executing on the president's vision? Is he cleaning up the Secret Service? Because this video that you're sharing with us is troubling.

Yes, I think he has acted swiftly in this case. He put one of the persons on a do not admit. That means she can't even, that everybody's on high alert if she shows up at any Secret Service office that she's not allowed to come in. The non-aggressor, the one that was responding to the physical attack, was also suspended, but she's not on that do not admit, so not as extreme. But

I know for a fact that he that John Curran has not given an all hands address to the Secret Service announcing reforms, giving a pep talk. Now, Ron Rowe, the acting director, was appointed after Cheetah was basically pushed out after terrible testimony before Congress and after the assassination attempt in Butler.

I do know that he did, Ron Rowe gave several pep talks. It was a good effort, but Sean Curran, there's concern within the Secret Service that maybe he is making the reforms that are needed, but there's no communication about them. He's been focused on retention and he's been putting out a lot of videos that cost millions of dollars, one for the Super Bowl that was produced by a big Hollywood producer, and

But so they're having a severe retention and hiring problem, manpower shortage at the Secret Service. So he has obviously been focused on that. We know that from these videos. But there's there was severe problems at the Secret Service well before the assassination attempts. That just was sort of the the Mike use. They provided just sort of a glimpse of what was really going on, the Secret Service, which

There were three female officers that were in, agents that were in charge of that site protection that day. And they're the ones that screwed up not having that line of sight, not having anybody on that AGR building. And they're trading blame. And I'm hearing that there is going to be some discipline for some of those agents involved, not all of those agents, which is concerning to me.

But there even before just two months before there was a woman attached to Kamala Harris's detail who had a mental breakdown at Joint Base Andrews. And I think you and I talked about that, Vince, on a radio show. And she there was concerns back then that she was not properly vetted because she had filed lawsuit against the Dallas Police Department for gender discrimination. And usually that would be disqualifying for the Secret Service.

I think there's a temptation among good people to, especially if you're tasked with leading an organization like that, to always be seen as supporting the agents. I stand with you. I work with you. But sometimes that temptation overrides the good sense to say, we need to clean it up. We need to sort the wheat from the chaff here and make sure to support

the right people in the agency. And if you do that, if you clean it up, that helps recruitment because people on the outside see it too. And then you get a lot more recruits. So I really hope they can clean up that agency. Before we let you go, Susan Crabtree, we've also got your book, Fool's Gold, about California and all of the warning signs that that state poses to the United States. Tell us about it.

Yes, we had a lot of people have talked about California's policy problems, obviously the failed progressive vision, but people haven't focused on the corruption that is so widespread in California. So that's what we do in this book. I work with Peter Schweitzer's group. My co-author is his top research director.

And one of them. And we did a lot of unveiling of what Gavin Newsom was up to, the problems with the political, the money windfall between the wildfires and Gavin Newsom, all the money he's taken from the utilities that caused the wildfires.

And his connections to China and why he was allowing, he formed a nonprofit that was specifically geared toward trying to get more than 100 companies, Chinese companies into California. But what were they getting into? What was California getting in return?

A lot of intellectual property theft and criminals and gay, even gang members being allowed into California. And Gavin Newsom was getting his wine trademarked into China at the same time and actually served as a sommelier to the CCP and had a wine tasting for CCP officials in Beijing.

I noticed the only time Gavin Newsom bothered to clean up the state is when the California delegation came. I mean, see, the Chinese delegation came to visit. That's the only time they started cleaning everything up. It's it is really remarkable. And I just saw it was Karen Bass, I think, this week, the mayor there who just shared footage, images of the first houses finally being rebuilt in the Palisades. And this is.

It's going to take forever. This is a state that is so inefficiently run. Do you get the impression that it's bad enough yet for the lefties who live there? Will they vote for someone else? I'm deeply concerned that Kamala Harris will be the next governor of California because there's such a divided field on the Democratic side. And she has great name recognition. That's pretty much all she has. But unfortunately, that...

California is so lopsided in their voter registrations that people like Richard Grinnell are trying to target conservatives and focus his nonprofit, Fix California, trying to focus conservatives.

on registering more conservative voters because there's a whole swath of people that don't even vote in California. So that's the only strategic plan I've seen so far to sort of prevent the next governor from being Kamala Harris. Yeah, and also just while we're on the issue, deport the illegals too. There's a lot of illegals in the state. And I saw there's some good news this week that Christine Noem and Stephen Miller are pushing for even more. And for what it's worth, I've got Tom Homan on the program tomorrow. The border czar will be joining me.

Susan Crabtree, RealClearPolitics, congratulations on all your great reporting. Thank you, and I can't wait to see what you do next. - Thank you so much, Vince. It's great to be on with you. - Great to talk to you. That's Susan Crabtree with important information telling us to stay on guard for the next 24 to 48 hours as she's got more information coming on the big cocaine saga from the Biden administration.

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