Donald Trump Jr. on JD Vance, Tim Walz, and Kai Trump | Episode 05 - 03/21/25
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We shall. Okay, good. Thank you, gentlemen. Joining me now, right here in this amazing Silverlock studio, is the one and only Donald Trump Jr. Good to see you, man. Nice to see you. Good to be here. I mean, I feel honored to be in the lineup that you had going on this week. I mean, that's a pretty solid start. Well, I think people should know that all of the people I've interviewed this week happen to be close friends. Like, everybody, every one of these guys is a buddy. And of mine as well. Of yours, yes. That's what I mean. Yeah. Yeah.

That's great. In fact, let's start with JD Vance because he made a big splash yesterday. He was here on our program. We had a great interview with him. And then the media went absolutely wild. They were furious at him. Can we play the clip of him that everybody's talking about? This is him talking about Kamala Harris consuming vodka shots before every single meeting. Take a look at this. You talked earlier about the role of the vice president and how it's different with each presidency. How are you doing the job differently than Kamala did it?

Well, if we're going to stick the landing on that, that's where he responds. That was not the response that got the media up in arms. You talked earlier about the role of the vice president and how it's different with each presidency. How are you doing the job differently than Kamala did it?

Well, I don't have four shots of vodka before every meeting. That's one way I think that Kamala really tried to bring herself into the role is these word salads. And I think that I would need the help of a lot of alcohol to answer a question the way that Kamala Harris answered questions. So good. I mean, tough but fair. Tough but fair. I mean, it's legit. I mean, I've never seen someone that could get to the ranks that Kamala Harris did who could not –

Complete a sentence. Yes, and you saw that it was just such an empty suit It's like a caricature created entirely by the media and a democratic apparatus that this is going to be the leader of the free world I'm like, yeah, and you saw it you always knew it kind of intuitively but during that presidential run you you saw it so early when it was like, okay fine What would you do differently? I wouldn't do anything differently fine. I

You got it wrong. Even the left was killing her for that. Like, just answer something on the border, on Ukraine, on any one of the major issues that was destroying the nation. But when she was asked a second time and a third time and a fourth time and a fifth time and was in my outlets at friend. Like, listen, if you go on The View and basically almost end your political campaign as a Democrat, like if you can't get through The View, how are you going to get through like Putin, Xi?

It's the most basic question imaginable. Like, it's the kind of thing that you would think to yourself while you're brushing your teeth before the interview. Yeah. They're probably going to ask me, what would my presidency be? How would it be different? Yeah. You know, and that's the most basic possible question. And it was, what's her face? Sonny on The View. Sonny Hostin, who was like, how would your presidency be different? She's like, not at all. It'd be the same exact. It'd be exactly the same. Everything that we've failed at, we're going to continue failing at. And I'm like, how do they not know, like, to adjust? Like, hey, I get it. Everyone's had a bad answer. Yeah.

Right. Everyone's, you know, put their foot in their mouth, whatever it was, or maybe got caught off guard. But like you're running a presidential campaign, like adjust. Big time. Overcome. Was it weird to you? It was almost a cruel joke that every single person at the top of that administration couldn't speak in English sentences. So Joe Biden, obviously, for mental reasons, couldn't do that. Kamala Harris, for different mental reasons, couldn't do that. And then Corrine Jean-Pierre, literally the White House spokeswoman, was incapable of speaking in English. What happened?

Listen, the reality, I mean, everyone in the administration, they valued whatever diversity checkboxes they could check much more than competence. Right. It was very simple. That's what it was like. Oh, Karine Jean-Pierre, she was the first president.

foreign-born lesbian black woman it's like well if you check enough boxes eventually you're gonna come up with a combination of Possibilities that like well, there's not another person in the world that meets all those other requirements And that's what it felt like to me because it was so obvious No one knew what they were talking about But but it didn't matter because that was what they cared about and that's why you could see it was just you know abject failure yes and

It, I guess to an extent, I always say we sort of needed those last four years for the rest of the country to wake up. As brutal as it was for me. Yes, you feel like that? I do, you know, and it sucked, right? They went after our businesses. They went after this. I'm like the most subpoenaed man in the history of the world, both congressionally and otherwise.

And, you know, the lawsuits and the lawfare and the this. But then you combine the American public finally seeing that with a failing economy, endless wars, all of this. And they're like, you know what, maybe maybe Trump isn't that bad. They saw even the lawsuits were so ridiculous. And so that people are like, yeah, listen, if you want to go after him for something, fine. But like.

When no one believes any of it is real anymore and they see it's only happening in areas where they could weaponize it, they see it's only happening in Atlanta and D.C. and New York City. It's like, oh, oh, this is probably all nonsense. And it took a while. It was like what I dealt with.

You know, during the early days of Russia, Russia, Russia. Right. You know, and I did 50 hours of congressional testimony for treason, a crime punishable by death. And I'm sitting there like, well, I must have been around someone like because I wanted to believe like, well, no, but it's the FBI. It's.

It's the, there was a part of me that wanted to credible like explanation for this. I wanted to believe that like everything I believed about America actually existed. Yeah. And it turns out like, I thought I was fighting to preserve the America I believed existed. Turns out I was actually fighting to help create an America that has been missing for a long time. Yeah. Uh, and it, but like I said, even me in that spot under fire, they're trying to throw you in jail and worse, right? Like, um,

It's like, well, there has to be something to it. And it took me a while to be like, no, there doesn't have to be anything to it. It's all BS. You know, our buddy Dan Bongino, now deputy director of the FBI, thank God, he would always use this expression, is it bad enough yet?

That was the phrase that he would use over these past few years. And it turns out by the 2024 election, America had concluded, yes, it's bad enough. Yes, it was. It's bad enough. Let me go back to J.D. Vance for a moment because I want to figure out how he became vice president of the United States. That's key. It's not a secret that you were pushing for him, that you wanted him to be the guy.

He's fantastic. There were a lot of doubters out there about him and not just among the kind of the the inner circle world of Republican politics, but in the in the general public, people are not as familiar with J.D. Vance as they probably should have been or hadn't yet become acquainted with him. Tell me about that fight. What was that like pushing to get J.D. Vance to be the guy? Well, it started pretty early. You know, I had actually read his book when it first came out, like when we were, you know,

mid-teens, mid-20-teens, whatever it was. I was like, wow, this is a guy that could, like, the story, the backstory, coming out of Appalachia and the poverty and breaking that cycle and becoming a business guy. And then that was way before even politics. And then it was like, oh, wow, he was a Trump hater for a while. And it was sort of interesting.

I knew some friends that knew him be like, you got to get together with this guy. Like you guys would be best friends. And so we started doing that early, you know, 2020, 2021, whatever it was and started talking. I'm like, and he was, he had come to the sort of the conclusion that actually Trump was right. And I was the guy that was being manipulated. He came there on his own, right? There's guys that in politics that sort of,

OK, I'll say what I need to say right now to get into a position. There's other guys that actually change their entire worldview. Yes. On their own organically. Listen, I think Marco Rubio at State has done that. You know, 10 years ago, you know, what he believed would have been, you know, very more neocon. Like he's there on his own. He's doing a great job. Marco, in his case, he was kind of famously a part of what they call the Gang of Eight amnesty bill.

with Lindsey Graham, and his views have definitely changed a lot. And on their own, and I think he's doing an incredible job at State. But so I got to sort of know J.D. real well, and I saw that sort of Ohio Senate primary. And like, you know, I don't think it's a secret to say that Republicans in the Senate, you know, with the exception of a very small handful, generally like our weakest...

Crew, right? There's just not many guys you'd want enough in a foxhole in a political fight It's sort of they like being comfortable They like being comfortable and it's really easy to be a Republican Washington DC that will come as a surprise to people If you just give in when it matters like you can be like 90% Conservative right as long as you fold on the big fights which the Republicans in the Senate very reliably do for the Democrats and so it's an easy existence and

Uh, so I, I saw sort of a talent. I saw, you know, a, a depth, uh, but like he can take complex issues and talk about them, whether it's foreign policy or otherwise, and like simplify them to where regular people can understand it. He, he can be really wonky too if he wants to, but he actually knows how to translate that down to people who aren't policy wonks or whatever it may be. And so I was like, this guy's just really impressive. Uh, love the backstory. I think it's important for people to be able to

See, you can still live that American dream. It still exists. He did that. So how does the lobbying effort play out? Because obviously, you would think, I mean, it's got to be a big deal for your son and your kids. You approached your father and you're like, look, I think J.D.'s really good. I think you should seriously consider him.

What does that look like? Well, so I went to him during that Ohio Senate race primary where J.D. was like number three or four in a primary. And oftentimes you don't want to get involved in a primary because who knows? You certainly don't want to back the number four guy usually, even if he's great. Because if you lose, you sort of expend a lot of political capital. And I try to be as pure as I possibly can. But there's realities that you have to deal with in Washington. But I was like,

listen, like this guy's going to be a rock star. We just got to let him, you know, get there. Tucker actually got pretty involved. You know, I remember he did it kind of famously on his national television show. He had he featured J.D. a lot. He believed in me openly. And a lot of other guys were trying to block him out. So we got that over the line. You know, he performed incredibly in those debates. He was the only guy that wasn't like sort of, you know, more neoconny and all of that. You know, understood like no one wants the endless wars, despite what Washington, D.C. would want. Right.

So did that, becomes a senator, campaigned heavily for him during that general. And then he was just like a breakout star in the Senate. Right. He could articulate the issues. He wasn't afraid to get aggressive. That just was such a lacking thing in there. And so when the VP stuff started happening, it was like, you know, this is a no brainer because for me,

I think most people who know me and have watched me for the last nine years, like I'm actually a believer in this stuff. Like I actually care. Right. I was. That's true. I was, you know, conservative since I was a kid, even if I grew up in New York City. Like it was, you know, so for me, it's not about like, well, we just got to get four years of Trump at all costs. It was about, no, we need four years of Trump and a runway. And that's the other thing that the four years gave us this last four years. Yeah. Yeah.

We found people who would fight, you know, if we, and I believe we won 2020. I don't, I don't think anyone watching doesn't believe that, but we didn't assume office. But what that four years also did was allowed us to find, uh, a crew of fighters, people who can do this. That's why this cabinet, had we just kept going from 2020 to 2024, like it would have been the same week kind of cabinet, weaker cabinet. Maybe there's a couple of guys that were great, but not many. Uh,

The can kickers were just going to wait it out. Right. See what happened. We're going to we're going to slow roll it. We're not going to follow the will of the president. We're the unelected bureaucracy is going to make all those decisions. We'll tell him what he wants to hear, but not get anything done. So what the Democrats did, and I said it a couple of weeks ago.

It was probably the stupidest move ever playing those games in 2020 for them because, A, it exposed just how weak they are. B, it exposed things like how bad the teachers' unions are because we saw it with the lockdowns and the nonsense and everything. Like,

It forced people to wake up. And we also finally, for the first time in history, we have a bench. Yeah. Because everyone got battle experience. Yeah. Everyone was battle hearted. You could see who was a fighter. Yeah. You're looking at everyone who's been victimized by the left and by the by the deep state, like whether it's Tulsi Gabbard, who's been tracked as a terrorist or RFK, who's been censored by the big tech companies at the behest of the White House. You start going down the list and you realize, whoa.

each of these guys has been subjected to their own trials at the hands of the American left. And, uh,

So they're in better position now. They're ready to fight. 100%. And you sort of brought in that coalition. So I was sort of behind the RFK endorsement. I sort of made that happen through a good friend of mine that was best friends with his son. It was like another one of those, like, you two would be best friends if you hung out. And so we did. And it was like, you saw the Democrats were trying to turn Bobby into the ultra conservative. And that's the choice to get MAGA versus MAGA to try to split that vote. And so I was like, hey,

Bobby, you're not going to win. We know that. But you could cause significant damage here. I actually believe in so much of what he's saying out there. I think you are a subject matter expert on the health stuff. I think it's so critical. I have five young kids. I see the garbage that's out there. I see what they try to cover up. Let's figure out how to work together. He was like, okay. And we sort of negotiated that one. It was me, my buddy, Bobby, his campaign manager, and Susie Wiles.

And that was it. We kept everyone else out of that. We did the same thing with Tulsi, actually, because my friend who was introduced to us was also a kind of former Democrat that saw what happened during lockdowns and became like, you know, was totally, you know, red pilled and has been on board. So we brought this sort of interesting coalition back together. But to get back to J.D., yes, you know, that was complicated because the reality in politics and

you know, all of politics, but money controls so much. Yes. So every billionaire donor that's out there, that's, you know, writing five, 10, 15, 20, $25 million checks and up. Sometimes they want their puppet in there. They want to be able to try to control the future. They want to be able to do this. So they, and so for me, uh,

It was basically the biggest voices in that room for JD would have been me initially and all in. Tucker, Charlie Kirk, some of the just the grassroots guys that are on the ground that know what's going on. Yeah. It was us versus...

The entire billionaire class who each had their own whatever it may be there wasn't necessarily a consolidation around one particular guy You know got it got to a couple and it was just like I get it I know you need the money But you also need a win and you also need to create that bench because it's not just about you winning. It's about making sure that

And I don't want to even say the Republican Party because I don't think it's the Republican Party anymore. It's an America First party. That this has a runway beyond the four years of Trump. You could be the sledgehammer for four years, but you need someone who can run with that afterwards. So what you're describing goes against the caricature of your father, which is that he's merely in it for himself and his own advancement. So if he's thinking the long game, he's actually thinking about the big picture. Oh, 100 percent. Listen, you know.

So if you're Trump and it's only about you, you'd find some average conservative guy that the billionaires would be able to get behind, that would never outshine or never outperform you. It's what Kamala Harris did with Tim Walz, right? Well, we can't find someone who has political talent. Even if I disagree with their views, like there are people in the Democrat Party that have political talent. She couldn't have someone as the number two that had political talent. Right. She had to find someone that was worse than her to not outshine her and like outshine

That's got to be challenging even in the Democrat Party to find someone worse. It's a sign of insecurity. Correct. So Trump gets this guy that's this rock star. And you saw it. You put him on the Sunday shows.

It just destroys all these people. You put them on in the debate. And at the end of the debate, Tim Walz is sitting there like, I agree with everything J.D. said. I'm like, I think he's voting for Trump. I was like, I think he's voting for Trump by the end of that thing. That's true. J.D. was so funny yesterday. He says, I was never physically intimidated by Tim Walz. I asked him. I was like, because Tim Walz is out there saying that he's like, I can kick everybody's ass. But that was the whole joke of the whole campaign. They tried to...

Tim waltz is the left's idea of masculine and

Yeah, it's like but because they don't know what masculine actually is so they're like well this guy one time held a shotgun So he's mad and like you could watch I'm sitting there like as someone who does a lot of this stuff I'm like watching him trying to load. I know you know a Beretta a400 I'm like listen you give me any shotgun in the world and a blindfold and three cells and I'll load it in about four seconds doesn't matter if it's a pump if it's an autoloader like a break-action like I will know just by feel and when they're like this guy's a serious hunter and he's sitting there struggling trying to load like I

you know, his gun is really, and he's like, you know, the whole quote was like, Maga's intimidated by masculinity. I'm like, have you ever watched this guy get on a stage? I'm like, it's like the opening scene of the Nutcracker. You know what I mean? Like, it's like, I was like, I don't know. I've never seen a wrist so limp. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but I'm like,

That was the left's idea of masculine. And so they're trying to push this on people who are actually masculine or at least not totally effeminate. Yeah. And like people are like, yeah, no, I'm not buying it. And he's still running with it. You saw it this week. He's like, I can beat the hell out of every Republican. I'm like, just stop. Yeah. By the way, you know, the number one sign of not being all that masculine is like talking about how masculine you actually are. Right. It's so funny. And so, yeah.

we're jumping around a little bit, but it was, you know, but you could see the, even, even Fox news, they were trying to crush JD. Like every month, like they were forcing a narrative, like trying to crush this guy. Cause we want to, you know, our puppet in there. Uh, all of these guys were going against it. And I think the one thing my father probably figured out with me, we're like,

I'm just the guy on the ground. I'm the guy that doesn't just show up for the selfie to be in the back of his speech. I don't go to his speeches. I go to the speeches where he can't be because that's actually a creative. If there's one Trump in the room, it's plenty. You don't need two Trumps in a room. I don't add much value. Some of the stuff you do for history because it's cool, but like

Too many people in that world just, well, I just want to be where he is because I can be in a selfie and I can use it to promote whatever. It's like, no, no, no. I'm going to go to the middle of Iowa and speak to 300 people in a room that the nominee can't go do to add value. So I just had a feeling of what's going on on the ground. I have a feeling where people are. So he's sort of trusting me with that one. And I knew...

It was always, even the Sunday shows, he started crushing. Like I said, he's putting, you know, Martha Raddatz in a play. Martha, do you hear yourself speaking? Yes. Trendel Aragua only took over a couple of buildings in Colorado. I mean, it's, you know, it's wild how, uh, how deranged they are. And he could, he could do it, but like, I get high strung. I get aggressive. Like he'll, he'll tell these people and just slap them around like a little child, but he,

just calm and collected and cool. And like everyone saw it. And I knew I was finally vindicated because there were a lot of people in the press, all those butthurt billionaires, uh, you know, they were MFing me behind my back and, you know, and some of them even came up to me afterwards. Like I hated you more than any person in politics for about a month and a half, uh, after the convention, but you were actually right. I was like, you should not have told me that. Cause I don't forget these things, but it's fine.

I've noticed a lot of people saying that. Like, I was completely wrong about J.D. Vance. I had no idea. That's like the number one thing I hear right now. And so I knew I was good because half the time, you know, hey, playing to the whole crowd, but like sometimes it's an audience of one. And that audience of one is a very powerful band. And it was after the debate.

The vice presidential debate I go do the spin room and I did like two hours of straight media just like you know from American to like BBC you're not like just and my phone keeps ringing in my pocket and I'm like, okay, just mute mute mute Because I figured oh, it's just a bunch of people like great. You know JD did great I was like it was actually no people it was 15 like missed calls from my dad at 2:00 in the morning and I'm like a Guy I'm gonna call him back and I do he picks up on the first ring at 2 o'clock in the morning He's kind of a machine

You know, Don, Don, I did that one for you, Don, but that was a 10.

There's not a lot of 10s. That was a 10. And so it was finally like, okay, I don't care if I'm vindicated in the minds of the billionaire class. It means nothing to me. If I cared about that, I would have stayed as a real estate developer in New York. I'm basically a redneck on the weekends when I'm not in a suit or whatever doing those things. That's what I like to do. Those are the people I hang out with. And so that was a...

But the ultimate vindication was him finally being like hey man. This is a risk It's a little bit of an unknown entity. He was you know senator for two years. Yes, um

And, you know, while he clearly overperformed in everything, that was the ultimate because I didn't care what anyone else thought. It was like he got it. That's very gratifying. And he understands talent better than anyone. Yeah, that's what gratifying as a son and your father's like, you know what? You did really good. This is really good. And like thinking about that, actually, I'm reminded of like kind of one of the stories of the campaign was the influence that your family had over your dad. The one that kept popping up is that your brother, Barron,

like had advised him to do all of these podcasts to basically go outside of the traditional media, get out of there, go to places where massive numbers of especially young people are watching and speak directly to them in these really long form interviews. That was a huge success. Yeah. You know, I'm not sure how involved Barron was with that. I think he definitely spoke to my dad about it. I was doing the same thing, right? Well, it's sort of my world also, right? Yeah. I know most of those guys are, you know, and I was like, hey, you got to do this. And

The thing about the long form stuff is, you know, if you're Kamala Harris, maybe you could, maybe she couldn't even get, you know, here's the four soundbites I get in a five minute interview on MSDNC, right? Usually you can crank those things. The long form, eventually you got to let your guard down. Uh, eventually you got to actually have something to say. Uh, and so I was like, I know he does like the Rogan thing was incredible. Uh,

And I was talking with Dana about making that happen for a while, Dana White. Just be like, we got to get him on there because he'll do so well. Because people are like, well, Trump doesn't know anything. When they started talking about the history of the Civil War, people were like, wait a minute, like,

Trump actually has some serious depth in these things. He talks about... He likes about McKinley's presidency and... Some fairly random stuff, but historically important and critical to where we are today. But you're like, wait a minute, Trump does have depth. He may not show it all the time. Sometimes you got to get the soundbite out. Sometimes you can't...

You can't get to all of the detail, but I think it was so important. He could do one after the other and he'd made the effort to go out there and it wasn't, there were no terms or conditions put in there. Yes. You know, and everyone saw that. And, you know, I don't know, again, I don't know if it was a mistake or the smartest thing in the world for Kamala Harris to not have done those things. It's probably better that she didn't. Because like, yeah, is it worse that she didn't do it or is it worse that she would have done it and failed miserably? She would have failed. And that's because...

The left doesn't really subject itself to that kind of battle. They try to avoid it at all costs. They censor people in order to prevent debate. Yeah, they've never had to have that battle because they had the media that would do it for them. They had big tech that would do that for them. I mean, anything that was sort of outside of the rules would just be censored and shut down. It didn't matter, right? The Hunter Biden laptop was always real. Everyone knew about it. The New York Post reported on it in 2020. I wrote a book about some of these things in 2020. It just never got out into the ether. It was not allowed...

because it was contrary to where they wanted it to go. So they've never actually had to fight, uh, an intellectual battle. And when they do these days, they've gotten so accustomed to either having that support or just going right to like, it's racist, it's misogynist. It's like the easy button of today's left. Like, yes, anything we doesn't go with the talking points is racist. Uh,

That just doesn't work anymore because people are they're sort of over it. Yeah, no, they definitely are. I want to talk to you about somebody else in the family, your daughter, Kai. Yes. So Kai Trump gets introduced to the whole planet when she goes and speaks to the Republican National Convention last year. That, of course, happened right after your father was shot in Butler, Pennsylvania.

Tell me kind of what what's that what is that like inside the family to make this decision that you're now 17 year old daughter is going to stand on a national stage and introduce her grandfather. Honestly, it wasn't a family decision. It was 100 percent her. Like right right after that, everyone's like that was a brilliant move by Don Jr. to try to humanize his father with his daughter like that.

you know, I was like, I would never, like, I'd never subject like my child to that, you know, push it on them for like political gain. Like I know how wrong that can go if it goes bad. Sure. Yes. Uh, but like she was, so how it all started was, uh, I got the rare call as a dad of a 17 year old to be like, Hey dad, I want to hang out and go fishing today. Like that doesn't happen very often. Right. It's like 17 year old. It's like if I get a call or even a response on a text message, once every other, once every 10 texts, I'm like, I'm lucky. Uh,

And so did that happen before the assassination? Oh, yeah, that was before. So we were that's we were she was like earlier that morning. I was like, OK, I'm dropping everything because this is a once in a year type call. Yes, I'm dropping everything. I'm taking her fishing. You know, we went offshore. We live right on the water in Florida. So we went offshore. We're having a great day. And I get the call like your dad's been shot. I'm like.

And, you know, like there's no degrees of good. Some calls are good or bad. Like there's no degrees of good in this. It's just, well, how bad? Well, we don't know.

And I'm telling her, like, we got to go. She's like, what do you mean? I was like, we got to go. And I told her. And I guess the one thing that perhaps wasn't a total failure that day was they were smart enough to shut down communication. So we didn't know for 90 minutes. So did you in this 90-minute window, did you see the videos that we were all seeing? Well, I was running a boat, you know, about 50 miles an hour. Yes. You know, I set the, you know, probably the record through Jupiter Inlet and back to my house and think I may have blown through some no-wake zones. I bet. I think cops would have understood that if I got pulled over. So I was willing to take the chance.

you know, get back to the house. And then I started seeing those videos, but again, you don't know, like, you know, I'm a hunter, right? I've, yes, I've, I've shot a deer that's dead. It just doesn't know it yet. It can run for, you know, a couple of hundred yards. And then, you know, so you don't know, you come back to find, but you you're bleeding out slowly or whatever it may be. So I, I didn't know, uh,

And it took about 90 minutes. By that time, you know, most of my family is at my house and my kids, my ex, the kids, everyone's there. My brother's on the phone. We're on speakerphone trying to, you know, get through. Ivanka's on the other line and we're like, what is going on? We don't know. Finally, a call comes in from my dad's, you know, people, whatever it is. And we're like,

And his voice was the first voice we heard. I was like, oh, God. Okay, thank you. Like, fine. That's like the initial adrenaline dump, but you're still pretty, you know, wired up. What did he say? Well, I'm usually the guy that

I'm the icebreaker because I'll say the stuff that most people will. And I was like, I just said first, the first thing I said once I knew he was okay was like, by the way, that was the most badass thing I've ever seen. Because like, you know, everyone thinks they're a tough guy, especially these days on the internet, right? Behind a keyboard in Mommy's basement, like everyone's a tough guy. Right. It's shot in the face and you come back.

Ready to fight. Amazing. That's cool. That's badass. That's the actual test. Most people that get tested, 90% of them are going to fail in that situation. Very few are going to rise to the occasion, understand what was happening. Ironically, at the RNC that following week, two guys came up to me like, hey, man, I were in... Separately, I was in the stands at Butler and people were going to die because there was going to be a stampede because no one knew what was going on. And he goes, when your dad stood up, everyone was like, they calmed down. And it's like they then left...

quietly and peacefully, but they felt it shaking. Two separate people told me that. I was like, I never thought about that. He was like, oh, he saved lives that day by doing what he did instead of just staying undercover and rushing away where people would have been panicked.

But so we finally do this. I told him that was the most badass thing ever. There's some conversation, but it's still like a really heavy moment. So I was like, I got to break the ice on this one and just be like, listen, with all of this, I got to ask, most importantly, how is the hair? Yes, the hair.

hair's fine. It's a little bloody done. The hair's fine. And everyone sort of had a laugh and it was maybe that, like that release we all, all needed, uh, you know, to have that done. But it was, you know, that night was sort of interesting as you're sort of the adrenaline is going. And when that adrenaline dump hit, it was like, you know, it, it, it crushes you. Uh, so, you know, I woke up the next morning to Kai, uh, you know, calling me and she's like, and that was the week of the RNC. She goes,

I'm speaking at the RNC. I'm like, oh, like, really? Like, I was not aware of that. I've been working on this for a while. I guess I'll go bump some senator or governor. Like, are you serious? Like, you've never given a speech in your life. Your first speech is going to be in front of like 40,000, whatever it is, live audience and tens of millions on TV. She's like, I don't care. Like,

And it's not because she's political, but like she has spent more time with my dad than probably I have. Right. She's his golfing buddy. She's great at it. They play every weekend. She's like, yeah, I will catch her.

You know, we'll be hanging out on a weekend or whatever it is. And, you know, she'll be talking to someone about like little pop culture things. I'm like, hey, guy, we got to go do something like you got to quit talking to your friends like this. And she's like, I'm not talking to my friends. I'm like, well, like you're talking about whatever it may be. Taylor Swift or who? I'm probably not Taylor Swift, but like something like that. And she's like, I'm talking to grandpa. I'm like, wait, really? Like grandpa's having like this kind of.

Pop culture teen. I thought it was another high school kid or whatever it is, and it's grandpa for 30 minutes. It's sort of funny. So they have this great relationship. That's great. That's how it started, and she was very adamant about it because, again, I would never put her in that fire. So I called my dad, and I'm like, hey, listen, Kai just called me. She wants to speak at the RNC, and he just goes, whoa.

Because he understands what happens if it fails, right? Sure. They'll destroy her. We don't get the Hunter Biden treatment. Leave the 50-year-old son alone. He's just a child. He's a child. Leave him alone. We don't get that treatment. We don't get the benefit of the doubt. And he just goes, that's a big one.

Okay, you know what? That kid's a winner. Let her do it. She'll be fine. Let's pick up on this. I want to pick up on the other side of this and more on your daughter, Kai, speaking at the Republican National Convention. Donald Trump Jr. in the house. This is awesome. What's going on, guys? All right. You've seen it before when disaster strikes. Grocery store shelves can go empty overnight. The worst time to prepare is during the aftermath. By then, it might already be too late. Smart Americans trust My Patriot Supply to help them prepare before crisis even comes. And

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The chat is going absolutely wild. Everybody's excited about Donald Trump Jr. being here in the house today. Glad to do it. Thank you, guys. Thank you for that. And they were they they love your description of Tim Walls performing in the Nutcracker with jazz hands. Yeah. So spirit fingers. I'm just like, again, it was always amazing to me. So it.

I loved watching it happen because obviously on my Rumble show or whatever, I'd highlight these things, but people were like, yeah, we know. It's ridiculous. It wasn't even one of those things that you have to point out to people. Oh, now that you've said it, now I see what you're saying. You didn't need to say anything. Please, just

Give him the mic. Let him come out. Jazz up the music. And he's going to do it to himself. It was great. So good. All right. So the microphone, of course, goes to your daughter, Kai. Yeah. So you just described how you called your dad and said, hey, Kai would like to speak. He considered it for a moment and said, great. She's a star. It's going to be great. So she does. Yeah.

How many audiences has she addressed prior to that event? It was literally like her first speech. I think as a kid, she did one or two little rallies, meaning like the first in 2015, 2016. When she was what, like eight or nine years old? She was like, give me the mic, literally out of the back of a pickup truck at a tailgate party. I think she spoke at the Florida game one time, I guess Florida-Georgia. Yeah.

and she said Merry Christmas at some rally in Grand Rapids, I think it was, or Cedar Falls when we were doing that. Otherwise, nothing. She was just kidding with me. Merry Christmas! I was like, you did great! For some people, that's still hard to do in front of a crowd of thousands of people, but

So, you know, she does this thing and, you know, she's very confident, you know, going in. And then we get to the actual event when you do a warm up. When it's empty, it's easier. Right. When you walk. And she was like, she's actually like, oh, boy, I was like, just relax. Talk a thousand times slower than you think you need to do. And you're going to be you're going to do great. And we went out there and, you know, I guess.

You know, of the Trump genes I got, you know, luckily the total lack of stage fright. Like, I want the mic, not I don't want to give it back. I want a larger crowd, not a smaller crowd. Right, right. It's frankly easier for me. But that was the most nervous I've ever been on a stage. And, like, I wasn't even the guy at the mic. I'm just standing five feet behind her because, again, I know...

I know what happens if, if there's even a, if there's a hiccup, you know, you saw it the next day. I knew it hit home the next day when the lovely ladies of the view are like, that was terrible exploitation of a minor. They should be ashamed of themselves. I'm like, you guys exploit it. Like what this daughter's she's pushing the patriarchy or like whatever the soundbites is exploiting an entire table of mentally ill people. But it's very fair. So like,

I would never do that. Like, I would never do that to my kids. Like, I care too much about my kids. Unlike, like, the left, who's more than happy to let their kids mutilate themselves. Yeah. That's not for me. But, you know, that was sort of nervous. It was interesting because then I had to speak afterwards. And it was, like, such a proud dad moment for me. Like, I had a hard time focusing on getting back to, like, what I needed to do. And then, you know, deliver more of a Don speech. Like, our speech wasn't even political. It was just like, but.

But like it drove these people nuts that, you know, maybe there's a chance that Donald Trump is actually human. I mean, it doesn't matter that there's countless stories of people that he's helped throughout his life. Right. They're just never going to get. So I know coverage. So I know that you and of course your father are very accustomed to negative press. So it probably rolls off you for the most part. You probably don't care that much. But it's got to be different to see press like scrutiny of your kid. So your daughter is not even 18 yet. She's 17 right now.

And already, like in the last day, I know she's a great golfer and everyone's keeping track of her latest golf tournament and writing all these negative headlines about her. Oh, she's not – first of all, she's way better than everybody writing stories about her. And second, it's got to be tough as a dad to see intense sort of negative scrutiny placed on your kid. Yeah, and some of it – what's interesting now is, I mean –

a year ago, the number one comment I'd get from people is like, I love your Instagram feed because you just don't care. And it's all memes and like, yeah, the occasional family stuff or whatever it may be. Now it's like, hey, you know, like liberals come up to me and they're like, you know, my daughter really loves Kai. And I'm just like, well, I didn't see that come. And it's sort of interesting. She's done an incredible job breaking out the negative stuff

My superpower in politics or business is like, I legitimately don't care what other people say. It allows me to do what I do. It's why I don't ever pull back. It's why I'm uncomfortable being aggressive. Because if you don't like it, I don't give a shit. It doesn't matter to me. I'm going to do it anyway.

And like, it's harder when it's your kid. But, you know, generally speaking, I think, you know, it's been pretty good. Again, I don't get the tribute. She had actually a pretty good piece today in the Washington Post. I haven't even had a chance to read it, but like friends who have, they're like, wow. I saw it. That's the permission slip for them to attack me harder because they're like, look, we're being fair.

We were nice to a 17 year old girl so we could destroy Don next week. I read it this morning and it is, it's very glowing. And it talks about how she's like kind of the, she's like the humanizing force for the Trump white house. It's, and in a way it's kind of a backhanded compliment to her. It's like everyone else is like completely unhuman, but she's very human. Uh,

but this is what we call in journalism, a beat sweetener. It's like you write a really nice piece just to like, Oh, like maybe we'll get the Trump family to like us again. And then boom, they try to hit you. Yeah. At this point with the Washington post, I imagine that's a lost cause for me. Uh, if they're, if they're decent to a 17 year old, I'm all for it. Hopefully, hopefully that's the start. I mean, yeah, my understanding and I haven't even had a chance to read it yet. Uh, but you know,

it sort of talked more on a political thing and that's her, like she's trying to not get anything. It's not political at all. I think that's what makes it. It doesn't have to be. She's like, it's not my world. I don't want to do that. So, you know, they're trying to make it more like, well, this is a political force. It's like, she has nothing. She's talking to young kids and like, I think,

you know, a kid that's, you know, just, you know, clean cut and works hard and is a straight-A student and is a good athlete, you know, like maybe that's a better role model in some of the stuff that's being pushed on us. Like, you know, you're not good unless you have nose rings and rainbow-colored freak hair and like mutilate your body and you're confused and you hate your country and your parents. Like, that's the ideal child. It was sort of like, oh, wow,

Like, it's refreshing that like maybe you can have a normal role model for a change. So so one of the cool things that they did focus on in that Washington Post piece is just what she's doing with social media and bringing people inside of this world that nobody else has access to. Not even like, you know, those top Trump Trump donors or anybody else. This is the granddaughter of the president. So she goes to a bunch of cool events and she captures them. And in the process, she gets to meet a lot of cool people, including Elon Musk. And Kai, I think in the last 24 hours has posted a video. Can we play this?

This is a video from Kai Trump, Donald Trump Jr.'s daughter. Apparently, she has just received a Tesla from Elon Musk. Oh, boy. Yep, that was fast. That was fast. So Elon got this one for me because they didn't make it at the time. My grandpa got me one. He got me the souped-up version. So it's 0-16, 2.6 seconds, which is insane. What was this, 2.6 seconds? 2.6. Oh, yeah, the new music.

So like my dad's is, I think his car is like 3.2 seconds or whatever. Well, I drive a big truck, but it's a faster, I drive a TRX. I love it. Like it's a great car. And, uh, I was like, okay, I got to see, you know what, what it'll do relative to the cyber truck. Yeah. The cyber truck is like super ridiculous. Like I've never like off the line, it's faster than most sports cars. You know,

they're, they're both, you know, 7,000 pound trucks. So they're both super fast. I'm on 700 horsepower. Yes. How do you feel about your daughter having a faster car than you right now? Well, I just, I listen, I think we got to like break that down even like further. Like, how do I feel about my 17 year old daughter driving period? Like, it's like, I'm still a dad. I'm just like, I don't like this. You don't need a super, but it's a big heavy car. So I like that. Uh,

Uh, you know, so yeah, so it's good. I think that, that one came about, I think it was funny. Uh, Kai was playing with my dad, uh, you know, and, and Elon called about something and he was just like, you know, Elon, you know, my granddaughter needs a new car. What do you recommend? And like, he's like this, my dad got her in a cyber truck. It's like, uh, he just here take that. It was, it was pretty, pretty funny. She calls me. I'm like,

Like my dad never did that to me. Like if I wanted a truck, it was like, you know, it was like, I'll lease you something crappy. And if you want to upgrade it, you're going to have to work for it. I'm like, wait, you're just giving her cyber drugs. I mean, her drug is nicer than me. I'm like 47. Yes. Are you concerned that your dad likes her better than you? Oh, man.

It's not even a concern because like there's no reason to be concerned about something that's very obvious. You know, I think I always joke. And it's because of golf. You know, like I don't even play golf. So I'm like the black sheep in the Trump family. I barely play golf. I was good, but I never loved it. So I just sort of I have my other hobbies.

That keeps me busy. So I'm the black sheep. I'm out of the will by not playing golf. She's probably the recipient in my stead. So you said, I wanted to ask about this. How did you get into hunting? Is your dad a hunter at all? Has he ever gone with you? No. No.

uh, now he, you know, can't teach an old dog new tricks. No, my dad loves golf. That's all. That's what he's passionate about. Uh, I was pretty good. Like he always gets mad at me because he was like, you know, I'll pick up a club after not picking up a club for two years and always had a really good swing. And he's like, you'd be a plus two if you played. But when I'm out there, I'm like, I look at the water and I'm like,

man, I wonder if there's fish in there. I could go fishing or like, you know, you wander off. Like, yeah, it's just, it was never a passion of mine. So it's like, you know, I used to probably do it a lot to play with him. And then I remember with my ex one night I came home and I was like, man, I didn't do anything all weekend. I got a busy week. She's like, you play golf like three times. Like, what do you, like, what do you mean? I'm like, like, I thought of it more as work instead of fun. And so like, I'm happy to like most of my kids play. Like, I love it for them. It was just never for me. And you got to kind of do what you want. I got into it. Um,

Sort of got into the outdoors. My grandfather was a blue collar, you know, electrician from communist Czechoslovakia. I spoke the language fluently. I started going over there very young. My mom, I think, and him, maybe my dad a little bit were like, OK, like you're living on like the 70th floor of Trump Tower. Like you have to experience the other side of life. So I spent a month plus living.

Every summer in what was then communist Czechoslovakia in the early 80s, I had friends, spoke the language, got me into the outdoors. There's the woods. I'll see you at dark. And so it was like America if you step back in time like 70 years. So I got...

some of that experience as a child, fell in love with it. I went to boarding school in eighth grade. I just wanted to get out of New York City. It was my parents going through a rough divorce and like all that. I was like, you know what? I just want to be here. Went to boarding school in central Pennsylvania. And, you know, a couple of guys there saw that I love the outdoor stuff, took me under their wing, got me, you know, shooting guns. I mean, I shot air guns and stuff like that earlier. But like fly fishing and air guns. And I just fell in love. And the second I could drive. Well, because your life is so busy and the environments you're describing are meditative. Like you can just like get out and be alone.

They're like, what do you... Like, I can't... I have totally ADD about everything, but, like, you know, I can go in the mountains without a phone for 10 days, come back out, and it's like... You know, now, within about four hours of catching up on emails, I'm usually back to the stress level I was before, but that's sort of my release. And so I just love being out there. That's cool. Whether it's fishing, hunting, just shooting. But your dad never had an interest. He was never into that. I've seen him shoot, like, once or twice, but that's about it. Now, it is...

You're not going to change him. You know what I mean? It's a, my dad's the guy that like, and it's why he's probably successful at so many things. Like he's the guy that can't even understand why like,

you may not like the same music that he does. He's like, no, but this is the best. He's very proud of his playlist. Yeah. DJ Trump is a thing. That's Mar-a-Lago. He'll sit there and do it all night. And I'm like, okay, I got to go because it's playing so loud. I can't hear. I'm not having it. He's like, you hate music. I'm like, I don't hate music. I just like, if I can't have a conversation because you're like, we're playing so loud, I don't feel the need to sit here that long. I think back to, it was the 2016 election and

we were on the road. It was the New Hampshire primary. And if you recall that night, it was very snowy. The debate. I remember that. The debate occurred. Marco Rubio was having a lot of trouble on stage. We don't talk about that now because Rubio is wonderful. But Rubio was having trouble on stage. And so that night we went to the only steakhouse. It was me and a couple of Daily Call reporters and Tucker Carlson. We all went to the only steakhouse that was open that night. And we're sitting there enjoying our meal. And the Secret Service comes walking in a few minutes later. It's an almost empty restaurant. And

And sure enough, right after they come in and scan the restaurant, your entire family walks in and everybody walks in to have dinner. And and President Trump stops by the table. Not yet president. And my buddy, Alex Pappas, says to him, asks a reporter, he goes, I can ask you about your playlist.

He goes, you've got like, you know, like the Rolling Stones. You've got like Elton John. Go right to Pavarotti. You've got like all these like basically foreign performers. Like what about like a lot more American performers? He asked. And your dad just stopped him. He said, no, no, no, no, no. My playlist is amazing. Don't you love it? And he just didn't even care what the question was. He was like, I'm telling you, I have a great playlist. It's the best, which was a hoot. I just loved it. I remember that dinner. That was a...

That was an interesting one. Yeah, that was a crazy time. I mean, the 16 elections sort of for me is sort of the most nostalgic. Like it was the most fun. Wasn't it? Because there was no expectation of us actually winning, right? It was like, I'm going to fight as hard as I possibly can. Like, you know, it was like,

even no matter what, like you watch CNN, you know, it's like, you have no chance. You have 0% chances. Like if we got 1%, if we outperformed by 1%, that's a win based on what we were saying. And in public, everybody acts confident. But I will say, I talked to people like really good Trump people that morning of election day. And they were like,

We'll see. We'll see what happens. I was like, we're going to overperform. We're going to do so much better than anyone thought. But come on, how do you beat that? When they started with Russia collusion, I'm like, collusion? We couldn't collude to order a cheeseburger. We didn't know anything what was going on. No one knew what they were doing. It was like we had a good message. My father, ironically, is a billionaire from New York.

knows real people because, you know, he spent all his time on construction sites. Perhaps it's why Eric and I, you know, we grew up on construction sites too. It's probably why I talk the way I do. But like we were...

We weren't sheltered from real people like so many people in Washington, D.C. are. Even people that are in Congress that are supposed to live amongst their constituents, they have no idea about these people. So I understood and appreciated the irony that this brash billionaire from New York was the guy that could actually resonate with blue-collar workers because he'd actually spent time with them a lot.

But like you didn't think you were going to win. You didn't have the staffing. You didn't have it. So it was like, I don't know, like give me a mic somewhere and I'll be fine. Like so it was fun. It was cool. It was easy from that perspective. Once you have an infrastructure and then you're expected, it's like, wow, this kind of sucks. You know, one of my favorite memories from election night 2016, I was there at the Midtown Hilton where you held the victory party. And it was early in the morning. We get that announcement that he won the presidency.

And then he comes out. And the way that that room is structured, there was a big, almost like a catwalk that you walk across. Then you walk down some stairs, and then you come onto the main stage. And on that catwalk was the entire Trump family, everybody that you know from the presidential campaign. President Trump was in the front. And I guess I think this was his choice. He was playing the theme music from Air Force One. Wow.

Which is like it's like it's a very kind of like emotional like American theme that people just think of it was so resonant and all of you walked in on that stage together and I just remember being an utter shock at what I was feeling in a good way just like me too I turned to a buddy and I go America just elected Donald Trump president of the United States and he gave a thank-you speech he thanked every single person on that stage except for Mike Pence a

Because I guess it turns out like Trump was always right about everything. It just sometimes takes a while to figure it out. Isn't that funny? Like if all the people he didn't thank on stage, like literally the only person he didn't thank was his running mate. Every single person he thanked. He literally was like, I think he was like thanking the janitors. He was thanking everybody. But Mike Pence, for some reason. Do you remember that night? I do. I do. Because I remember right before that, like I was like videoing the Hillary call.

which was pretty awesome. I don't even know if I've ever posted that. I probably should. Oh, you should. It's shelf life is good. Yeah, no, it's just like, cause I was like,

this is really happening. Again, I felt we'd overperformed without question. I was the guy on the ground more than probably anyone in terms of getting into real America. That's sort of what I did. I wasn't the guy that was going to manage data because I was like, I'm pretty good with a mic. I figured that out. Send me. Running a campaign wouldn't have been my strong suit then. I was much more involved in that apparatus this time because

I'd figured it out after three terms. Now I actually have, you know, some credibility to stand back on. Like I get how this works. Uh, that time I didn't know anything. Um, and so, yeah, that was, that was an amazing night. I mean, I don't think I ever went to sleep cause it was just like, I tried at like six in the morning to go to bed for an hour. And I was like, like, what do we do now? Sometimes the dog catches the car, right? It was like, and you know, the difference and you know, same thing happened this time around. It was like four o'clock in the morning. It was like, you know, when we won in November and it was like,

this was different though. It was like, yeah, I got like two hours of sleep and I'm like, okay, now we're going to staff him with people. We're not just going to listen to Chris Christie or some other guy pushing their buddies that suck, uh, or, you know, are barely conservative or Rhino neocons or they have an R next to their name and maybe some cred, but they'll sell you down the river, uh, in two seconds to make sure that they can position themselves better for some lobbying contract or whatever it may be. Yeah. Uh,

This time it was like, okay, we're going to get to work and we're going to give him the best cabinet we can possibly give him. So let me end where we started basically where I was asking you about J.D. Vance. I saw something recently that some reporter asked you if you are planning on running for president of the United States. And you basically said – you told this reporter they were an idiot. I actually told them they were retarded. Retarded. They were like, are you going to use that as your quote? I'm like, yes, that is my official – you're a retarded moron. Yeah.

That was my official response. You can quote me. Well, because they try – I see what they do in politics, right? That's why we did sort of the Bobby Kennedy thing. Yeah. Like we did it quiet because if everyone found out and it started leaking, then they'll find a way to make sure it doesn't happen. Yeah. Right? They'll find a way to break it up if you give them the time to do that. You see them doing that now. You know, Don Jr. is running for president. Like there's polls that had me tied with J.D. a couple – like –

Why would I like assuming I'm not also retarded? And what's nice is we're bringing back the word retarded. Gay and retarded are back in the vernacular. I'm just saying it's fine. It was probably every other word out of all of our high school lives. Yeah. You know, then it became a totally cancelable offense. Now, like people are over the cancel nonsense. It actually has nothing to do with being gay or retarded, like as we know.

Never did, but that doesn't stop them. But, you know, they're trying to create these schisms. But I just replied back, and it's like the last quote at the bottom of the story. So they're like, oh, Dog Jr.'s running, and we can create a problem. And my quote is the most aggressive shutdown quote ever. And my thesis in the rest of the quote was basically like, listen, assuming I'm not an idiot—

And I had the vision to help curate a guy that's a great talent and push – use all of my political capital for maybe the next 50 years to make that happen. Why would I nurture that kind of talent instead of letting some puppet of the billionaire class go in there that if I really wanted to run, I'd probably destroy –

in a primary in 2028? Why would I create a much harder competition? Wouldn't I be knifing? Yes. If I played the game like everyone else in DC, wouldn't I be knifing our best talent to clear an easier path for me if I actually wanted to do that? So yeah, maybe one day. You never know. I'm never going to rule anything out. But I want to make sure we have a long bench of great talent. It's not just about Trump. I think he's the catalyst we need. I think he's

perhaps one of the only guys that can do what we need to do right now. Maybe the only guy, probably the only guy that can do what we need to do right now. Just take on everything and just not care. You know, I don't want to say burn it down because then they'll say I'm encouraging violence, even though they're burning down Tesla stations all over the world. But like, he's the guy that can do that. But,

You need that bench of guys that can follow through and keep it going and not just revert back to the insanity of the past. And so I think J.D.'s done an incredible job. But like I said, this four years, we've actually started curating some real talent. And whether that's for 28 or for 32 or for 36,

We have, we actually have a bunch of warriors now and that's absolutely awesome. Okay. All right. I know we're up against it and Rommel's got a great lineup. So we're sending it to each guy, including to Steven Crowder coming up next. But before we get there, Hey fellas, can you zoom in on this real fast for me? This is the Donald Trump signed flesh and blood card for flesh and blood is the name of the card game. This is the first, I don't even know what that is. Me neither. Guy is our executive producer and he got president Trump to sign this, making this one of the most valuable cards he owns. He loves this game. He,

He asked me, because he's not here today, to get you to sign this one. Deal. Would you mind? Not at all. All right, here we go. This is big. All right, I'm going to move the mic a little bit. Here we go. Check the names. Okay. There we go. We got a Donald Trump Jr. signature. The Donald Trump card is called gold, apparently. And this one...

The Golden Sun. Oh, wow. I like that. I like that, too. I'll take it. All right. Hey, Donald Trump Jr. Thanks a lot. Thank you very much. Good to talk to you. Stephen Crowder is up next right here on Rumble.