EP. 34 GABBY PETITO (A Body Has Been Found)
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This story doesn't really need an introduction. If you're fans of true crime, you definitely have heard this name by now. And if you haven't, we are going to take a deep dive into this case today and give you all of the information we possibly can. Sadly, in this case, we have no real clues, no hard evidence as of now.

We have nothing but speculation, some facts, and some short segments of video. Her name is one that has recently been plastered all across every news outlet out there, every news website, and every true crime TikTok. The story of Gabby Petito. We don't have answers to this case. We don't have a resolution yet. But I'm sure we'll soon find out exactly what happened.

But until then, we are going to share the story from beginning to sort of the end. We are also going to discuss the two murders that occurred near where Brian and Gabby were

camping. We don't think that they're connected, but it is weird that these two incidences happened in such close proximity. We do want to point out that as of now, the podcast is updated with all of the information that we have been given, but a recent discovery has been made, one that may change the entire course of this horrific story. This is the story.

of the currently unfolding mystery behind the disappearance of Gabby Petito. I'm Courtney Shannon. And I'm Colin Brown. And you're listening to Murder in America.

I just want to state straight out of the gate that we don't really know that Gabby is deceased. Although a recent development has shaped the way we are viewing this case right now, we're watching it unfold live and we don't know if the body that was recently found really belongs to Gabby Petito. A lot of the facts and parts of this story that we're about to cover in this podcast are unfolding as we speak.

However, we're going to try cover the story of another couple of unsolved murders that occurred recently in this very podcast. Stay tuned to hear that tragic unsolved story later on in the show. Unfortunately, at the time of this podcast's writing, we didn't know much about the life of Gabby before her disappearance. Gabby was born on March 19th, 1999 in Suffolk County, New York.

She was a bright child and grew up surrounded by a loving and supported family. You will see later in our story that Gabby's family deeply cares about her and she had a really good support system. She graduated from Bayport Blue Point High School in 2017 and in 2019, she allegedly moved in with the family of her childhood sweetheart, a young man by the name of Brian Laundrie.

Just to state here outright, we are not alleging that Brian did anything in this podcast. We are simply reporting on facts and relaying to you guys a complete report on all that we know right now. Obviously, if you're listening in a few months, there are going to be plenty more developments in the story and there's going to be a lot more information available. But at this very moment, we felt like this story was extremely important to tell right now.

When we find out more about this case, we'll update this podcast and tell you the complete story.

Now, like I said, this part of the story is pretty bare bones, but we're going to include as much detail as possible. At one point in 2020, allegedly, Gabby and Brian got engaged. They were deeply in love. At this point, Gabby was living in Florida with her fiance, Brian. The two had a seemingly normal loving relationship from the outside looking in. But now, in hindsight, their relationship was far from perfect.

At one point, Gabby and Brian decided that they wanted to take a cross-country road trip. And so they did. And that's what leads us to this mystery. In June 2021, Gabby and Brian began their journey.

They decided to travel in a white 2012 Ford Transit Connect van that belonged to Gabby. Reportedly, the two began their travels in Blue Point, New York at Gabby's brother's high school graduation. It was from there where the couple's cross-country road trip began. They allegedly intended on heading to the West Coast, headed towards Portland for Halloween, planning on visiting national parks and nature areas along the way. But this trip would not go according to plan.

Here are a few of the locations that the couple allegedly visited on their trip. On July 10th, Gabby and Brian, according to an Instagram post, visited the Great Sand Dunes National Park and Preserve in Colorado. And it looked like the two were having a great time. On the post, Gabby was seen riding a sandboard, and it looked like everything in the world was going right.

On July 16th, Gabby posted a series of photos from Zion National Park in Utah. She talked about how beautiful their time spent there was as they hiked, camped, and watched a beautiful lightning storm pass over above.

On July 21st, Gabby posted a photo tagged at Bryce Canyon National Park with the caption quote "Zion, Cedar Breaks, Bryce" end quote. Apparently, the couple was traveling frequently and visiting a bunch of parks in a short amount of time. On July 30th, the couple was apparently in the Canyonlands National Park once again in Utah.

And again, they seemed happy in their photos, playful, and in the mood to explore. By August 12th, the two had made it to the Arches National Park outside of Moab, Utah. And this is where the story starts to get strange. On August 12th, 2021, the couple is pulled over in the van that they're traveling in by the police. Body camera footage captures most of this interaction.

The footage is almost eerie. In the video, Gabby seems extremely distressed. She's crying and apologizing profusely. "I'm sorry," Gabby says after the officer asks her why she's crying. "We've just been fighting this morning, some personal issues." As the officers separate the two, they can definitely tell that the both of them have been fighting.

Brian, in the video, seems to have some scratches on his body sustained during the couple's physical altercation and fight. "It was a long day. We were camping yesterday," Brian told officers. The body camera footage is almost an hour long.

In the video, both Brian and Gabby admit to arguing all morning. At one point, the officer asks Brian about the bloody scratches on his face. He responded by saying, "She had her phone and was trying to get the keys from me. I said, 'Let's just step back and breathe,' and she got me with her phone." I'm going to include some audio from the body camera footage here. Here's Gabby herself speaking about what was happening. "His name's... Gabby, Brian. Okay."

What's going on? What can you find? I'm sorry. We've just been fighting this morning. Some personal issues. What is it? I feel like I had OCD. Okay. I was just cleaning and cleaning up the back of the van before, and I was apologizing to him and saying, I'm sorry that I'm so mean because sometimes I have OCD and sometimes I just get really frustrated. I'm not, like, mean towards him. I just, like... I guess...

I'm sorry if I'm in a bad mood. I'm really stressed. I had so much work I was doing on my computer this morning. What did you do for a living? Well, I used to work at an organic juice bar, but I just quit. I was a nutritionist. That was my job. I just quit my job to travel across the country trying to start a blog.

Why wouldn't he let you in the car? Is he in because of the OCD?

And here are some words from Brian, his version of the story. So you push her and she hit you? She was hit.

I wasn't, I wasn't, it wasn't like a push and she jumped on me. She was already, she was already swinging. There I am just pressing. A lot of nails, a lot of rings. Yeah, you got three scraps in your neck. You've got one on the left side, you've got one on your face here, and you've got two scraps on the left side. Do you mind lifting up your right sleeve for me? I'm curious about something. What's that from? I suppose fingernails, but I'm not complaining. I'm not complaining about fingernails. They say they're bruised or tender or anything like that? No, no, no.

I'm fine, and I look good. I hope she doesn't have too many complaints about me. I just, uh, I feel bad that I didn't get so perfect. I was just trying to be loud, do some useless, you know, I was trying to make her calm down and be like, look, everyone's watching. I'll say crisscross applesauce. Can I just sit in the shade and shoot them all? No, it's okay. I'll give you some shit. Sound good? Alright, just hang tight for me. I've decided I am not going to cite you for domestic violence battery, okay?

It was only going to be a class B misdemeanor. However, the domestic violence portion of it enhances it. Makes like a major pain in the butt, especially in your 22, right? So I'm choosing not to cite you today. I'm not gonna release you guys together. I want you guys to stay away from each other tonight. Okay? She's agreed to it. Take some time to yourselves. You guys both have the exact same story as to what led up to the incident.

So, taking some time tonight, specifically, taking tonight away from each other is going to be the maker breaker in all of this. I think that it'll help you guys, especially tomorrow when you guys meet up. Just try to not contact each other unless, like I said, oh, I'm first chattering, something happens, you guys have to jump in the car right now and drive back to Florida for some company here.

After all was said and done, no charges were filed, and Brian and Gabby were let free. According to the report, written by responding officer Eric Pratt, quote, both the male and female reported that they are in love and engaged to be married and desperately didn't wish to see anyone charged with a crime.

That night, the authorities set Brian up with a hotel room and gave Gabby control over the van that the couple was traveling in. And it seemed like nobody at the time had any idea what would happen next. I mean, how could they?

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But why did the two get pulled over in the first place? Well, earlier that day, an anonymous caller had dialed 911 and reported a domestic dispute that was taking place outside of the Moonflower Cooperative grocery store in the heart of Moab, Utah. The couple having the domestic dispute was none other than Gabby and Brian.

Apparently, their fight was so shocking, so potentially violent, that somebody had phoned the incident in to the police. This grocery store, the Moonflower Co-op, plays an important role in our story. For you see, this grocery store was the workplace of 24-year-old Kylan Schulte. Kylan was a young woman with a long life ahead of her. She had recently gotten married to her love,

38-year-old Crystal Turner, and the two were very happy. You see, in Moab, Utah, it's a small town.

Sadly, the story of Kylan and Crystal does not end well.

After going missing for a few days, on August 18, 2021, the bodies of Kylan and Crystal were found near the South Mesa area of LaSalle Loop Road in Grand County, Utah, according to the Grand County Sheriff's Office.

Both Kylan and Crystal were discovered in states of undress with multiple gunshot wounds in their bodies. They had been murdered and still to this day there are no suspects in the case. Now we do want to come out and say that it has been determined that the

These two murders are not connected to the Gabby potato case and although it isn't connected, we do want to mention it because we just think it's strange and their cases matter too. So here is what we know about their case.

Kylan and Crystal had gone camping on that fateful weekend, and allegedly, they had communicated some strange things to their peers while out in the woods. Apparently, while camping, the couple complained to their friends about a strange man behaving in a creepy manner behind their campsite. Kylan's aunt, Bridget Calvert, revealed to reporters after the murders that, quote, "They said they were going to go move. They were going to go pack up and move their campsite."

that he was still creeping them out." Later, a now public police search warrant revealed that "investigators were informed that Kylan had mentioned to her friends that if something happened to them, they were murdered." Kylan had continued by saying there was a "creepy man" around their campsite and they had been intimidated by him.

According to a warrant, when obtained by local news in Utah, when officials from the Grand County Sheriff's Office arrived at the campsite where Crystal and Kylan had been camping, they found a Kia Sorento, a camping tent, amenities and items intended for use at a long-term campsite, and a makeshift rabbit shelter. In a sad turn, Kylan and Crystal had, while alive, enjoyed camping in the wilderness with their pet, Ramblin'.

Crystal and Kylan were beloved members of the community of Moab, and as published in the Daily Mail during an interview, Kylan's grandmother said that she was, quote, End quote.

We're going to stop the podcast at this point and add in here that anyone with information about who may have possibly murdered Crystal and Kylan is asked to contact the Grand County Sheriff's Office at 435-259-8115.

So, how do the murders of Crystal and Kylan tie into the disappearance of Gabby Petito? Well, it's actually quite the connection. Remember when a random stranger called into the police to report a domestic disturbance between Brian and Gabby? Well, they were allegedly fighting directly outside of the Moonflower Co-op where Kylan Schulte worked. Just days after this fight, Kylan would be murdered outside of Moab, Utah, where the store is located.

Even though this is an interesting twist in the story, just a few days ago, the Grand County Sheriff's Department released the following statement saying, It seems like the murders of Kylan and Crystal will remain unsolved for now.

So now we get to the disappearance of Gabby Petito. And this is where our story starts to get strange. On August 19th, 2021, a video was uploaded to a YouTube channel titled Nomadic Static. In the video, Gabby Petito and Brian Laundrie are seen traveling the country in their van. They're smiling, discussing their trip.

enjoying a few snacks along the way and just enjoying life. Eerily, this video would provide family and investigators with some of the last known images of Gabby. In an interesting twist, allegedly, Brian flew home to help his dad unload and clean out a storage unit in Florida from August 17th to August 23rd and left Gabby alone in Salt Lake City, Utah with her van. She reportedly spent this time in a Fairfield Inn & Suites in Salt Lake City.

a hotel which, sadly, was located just two blocks away from a local FBI office. When Gabby and Brian checked out of this hotel on August 24th, this would be the last time that Gabby was publicly seen alive.

After she was reported missing on September 11th, 2021, Gabby Petito's family told authorities that she had kept in contact with them through the end of August. According to Gabby's family, this was the timeline of Gabby's final attempts to contact them.

On August 24th, Gabby, who still seemed cheery and normal, called her mom on FaceTime and told her that she was at the time leaving the state of Utah and heading for the mountain ranges in Wyoming. On August 25th, the very next day, multiple texts are shared between Gabby and her mother. Her family genuinely believed that she was in the Tetons on this date and that everything was going well.

On August 27th, suddenly Gabby stops communicating with her family over text and FaceTime. Although her family hears nothing from her, they believe that she's safe and she's traveling through the mountain ranges where at times cell service and reception can be pretty spotty. So it's not too concerning at first.

And on August 30th, 2021, Gabby's family, out of the blue, receives their last text message and communication in general from Gabby. At the time of recording this podcast, Gabby's family is stating to the news outlets and authorities that they are in doubt that Gabby herself sent this message. Allegedly, this final message that Gabby sent read, quote, no service in Yosemite, end quote.

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is developing now if that wasn't strange enough get this on September 1st 2021 Gabby's boyfriend slash fiance Brian Laundrie abruptly returns home to North Port Florida to the house that Brian and Gabby shared with Brian's parents but even though Brian is driving that same white 2012 Ford Transit Connect van that belonged to Gabby Gabby was not with him

Soon after, on September 11th, 2021, Gabby's family in New York reports to authorities that she's missing. On the same night that Gabby is reported to be missing, police officers in Florida head to Brian's home. But unfortunately, Brian refuses to talk to authorities. Officers are essentially handed the contact information for Brian's attorneys, and they are turned away from the home.

Authorities have since stated that Brian is a person of interest in the disappearance of his girlfriend Gabby Petito. And Brian Laundrie and his family have basically refused to cooperate with the investigation. They haven't given any details from the trip, no clues as to where Gabby may be, and are choosing to remain silent.

After trying to find where Gabby Petito was and the Laundrie family continued to remain silent, Gabby's family's attorney issued a statement. Here are a few of the quotes from these statements.

Brian left Gabby in the wilderness with grizzly bears and wolves while he sits in the comfort of his home. In his home. Brian, your silence is reprehensible. We beg you to do the right thing and help us bring Gabby home. Brian, whatever happened in Wyoming happened. The only thing you can control is what you do now. Tell us where Gabby is.

Since this case has received so much attention and has thrust the story of Gabby and Brian into the public eye, a number of internet sleuths have come forward with theories on what may have happened and provided their own two cents. While a lot of these reports have been filled with hearsay, a number of people have actually provided important clues as to where Gabby may be and clues about what Brian Laundrie may have been up to after she went missing. Let's start with a woman named Miranda Baker.

She recently took to TikTok to tell a strange story about one night in late August when she allegedly picked up Brian Laundrie, who was hitchhiking alone through the Grand Tetons National Park, the last place where authorities have been able to place Gabby Petito. In the TikTok video that she posted, Miranda Baker claimed that Brian approached she and her boyfriend around 5.44 p.m. local time on the evening of August 29th.

and asked them for a ride to Jackson, Wyoming. Miranda, in her video, stated that Brian allegedly offered she and her boyfriend $200 for the 10-mile drive. They accepted the money and allowed him to tag along. It should also be pointed out that at one point Brian mentioned to local law enforcement when he was being interviewed that he didn't have enough money to pay for a hotel room. So, how did he produce this $200?

That is a mystery. Allegedly, while they were small talking in the car, Miranda claimed that Brian had mentioned that he had been camping for, quote, multiple days without his fiancee, end quote. And he said that she was, quote, working on their social media page back at their van.

When Miranda at one point mentioned that her and her boyfriend had their own plans to visit nearby Jackson Hole, she said that Brian allegedly freaked out and demanded that they let him out of the car. Miranda went on to say that she pulled over at the Jackson Dam, not far from Coulter Bay, at 6.09 p.m. that night and let Brian out of the car. She said, "...he kind of like hurried out of the car."

Allegedly, on the day that Miranda and her boyfriend picked up Brian, she claimed that he was wearing a backpack, hiking boots, and a long-sleeved shirt.

Even though he had some scruffy facial hair on his face, Miranda claimed that Brian didn't seem to look or smell dirty. He seemed pretty normal. The FBI and other authorities have been in contact with Miranda and have reportedly used the information that she provided in their search. A man on TikTok also posted a video alleging that around this time at the end of August, he ran into Brian in a restaurant slash bar called Bulldog.

"bullwinkles" in the area. Allegedly, the man stated that Brian told the group that he was from New York, his name was Brian, and the man also stated that Brian seemed visibly irritated at the time. Brian's demeanor in the bar was so strange, in fact, that the group, upon leaving, allegedly discussed how he had made them very uncomfortable and even brought up the idea that they may have encountered a serial killer.

We aren't sure if this is 100% fact, but if it is, that is pretty strange. And now for an even more disturbing twist. A video was recently uploaded to YouTube titled, "Is this Gabby Petito's van caught on YouTuber's camera?" In the video uploaded by a couple, Jen and Kyle Bethune, the two are traveling cross-country on August 27th, 2021, just a few days after the last confirmed sighting of Gabby Petito alive.

in their RV with their three children and four dogs as they cross through the spread creek dispersed camping land in Grand Teton National Park. Suddenly, as they're filming on the dashboard, they pass a white van with Florida plates. Since the family was from Florida, they made note of this van and thought that maybe they could stop by and say hello to these fellow Floridians.

But at the time, nobody seemed to be around. The van has allegedly been linked to Gabby and Brian, and the footage itself has almost a spooky quality to it.

Nobody's around. The van is dark. And it almost feels evil. On the dashboard, avid watchers have pointed out that one can see Gabby's hat. The same hat that was captured days earlier in a police body cam footage from when Gabby and Brian were pulled over. Also, others have noticed that next to the van there appears to be a flip-flop.

The same style of flip-flop that is allegedly seen lying outside of the van seems to match the same flip-flop that Gabby is seen wearing in photos on her Instagram before her disappearance. Others have noticed that a cargo bag was seen atop the van in posts on Instagram and in the couple's van life YouTube video is suddenly missing. While the bag could have potentially been stored inside or beneath the van, it also could have been used for the disposal of her

body, which is what some people are assuming. Again, we aren't 100% sure. On Friday, September 17th, 2021, police in Florida were called to the home where Brian and Gabby once lived, where Brian's parents still continue to reside. They requested to speak with the police and supposedly provided some information. But when the police searched for Brian, with whom they wanted to speak, he was gone.

At this time that we're recording this podcast, nobody knows where Brian Laundrie is. His lawyer, his family, the police, they all seem to be clueless. Brian has disappeared into the night. And to us, the hosts of this podcast, this seems to be some sort of proof that indeed he knows something about what happened to Gabby Petito. And now there's another twist in the case.

Like we said, we are releasing this podcast as it's unfolding, so if you're listening to this at a later date, more information may be available to fill in the gaps. But as of this time, on September 19th, 2021, Brian Laundrie himself is now missing. Or, as a lot of people are saying, he's hiding. ♪

Brian's parents later alleged that earlier in the week, Brian had left to go camping in the 25,000-acre Carlton Reserve, a natural area full of swamps and forests just outside of Sarasota, Florida. He has made no contact with his family since he left, and for the past few days, authorities have been vigilantly searching for him. But there are no signs of Brian. Brian's family has since stated that they fear that he's in danger, that he may have harmed himself.

K9 units have been deployed. There have been authorities searching on the ground, in the air, and even in the water. And still, Brian Laundrie is nowhere to be found. The police spokesman in Florida, after learning this, issued the following statement.

It's another twist in this story. The attorney for the Laundrie family, Stephen Bertolino, stated on CNN on Friday that, quote,

And now for the end of the story, or maybe the beginning of the real story.

Right now, it's 5:45 p.m. on Sunday, September 19th, 2021, and headlines are just now starting to appear claiming that the FBI has located a body in Grand Teton National Park, and authorities are confirming to the press that indeed, this body that they have found matches the description of 22-year-old Gabby Petito.

Although DNA has yet to confirm that this body belongs to Gabby, the North Port Police Department is making statements saying how sad it is that they've found Gabby's remains. The FBI is offering condolences to the Petito family. It seems that by waiting to put this podcast out, we waited just long enough. It looks like Gabby has been found.

But she wasn't found in the way that we would have liked her to be. But at the end of the day, we really don't know yet if this truly is Gabby. We are assuming here at this podcast that the body does belong to her based on the facts. But this is all just alleged information that we're reporting on as it happens. If this body does belong to Gabby, it still raises so many more questions.

We don't truly know how she died, if Brian was the one responsible for her death, or how all of this went down. But at this moment, to us, it really does seem like they've found Gabby Petito.

And we here at Murder in America are eager to find out just what happened to her, how it happened, and who is responsible. At the end of this podcast, we really would like to offer our condolences from Courtney and I to the Petito family. We want to thank everybody that was involved in the search.

And we're very glad that these developments, this progress has been made in the case. Although it's a sad ending to a sad story. Hopefully, in the near future, they can find Brian, they can determine what happened, how it happened, and they can find justice for Gabby Petito.

Hey, everybody. It's Colin here. And Courtney. Sorry about having two episodes this weekend. We really wanted to highlight the Madisonville Jane Doe on the anniversary of her discovery. And obviously, Gabby Petito, this case is developing right now. Literally, we added in the part about her

supposed body being discovered as it was happening. Like this just happened right now. Isn't it? It's just crazy, isn't it? Yeah, we were about to record and Colin was like, oh my God, they just found her. And we were like, wow, like I can't believe that happened right before we recorded it. Yeah. So that's, uh, that's our job here as podcasters. We want to thank you guys for listening every single week. All of you guys are amazing out there. Next week, we're going to be back with a very brutal, very shocking case.

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