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536. Emperors of Rome: Caligula, Incest and Insanity (Part 3)

2025/2/3
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Tom Holland: 我认为苏维托尼乌斯对卡里古拉的描述中存在黑色幽默的成分。卡里古拉的暴行和怪诞行为,部分源于他精明的政治策略,部分源于他个人性格中残忍和支配欲的因素。他利用其家族背景和公众形象,通过戏剧性的公众表演和慷慨的施舍来赢得民众的支持。同时,他对元老院的蔑视和残酷镇压,也是其统治策略的一部分。他挑战并颠覆了罗马社会的传统和禁忌,以此来巩固自己的权力。卡里古拉的统治虽然短暂,却以其极端的权力和残酷而闻名于世。 我并不认为卡里古拉是疯子,他的行为虽然令人发指,却并非出于精神错乱。他有着清醒的政治头脑,能够有效地利用权力来达到自己的目的。他与提比略的关系复杂,在卡普里岛期间表现得顺从,但实际上,他一直在等待机会掌握权力。 关于卡里古拉与姐妹乱伦的传闻,我认为缺乏可靠的证据。苏维托尼乌斯是第一个提及这一指控的人,而卡里古拉的同代人中,没有人证实这一说法。 卡里古拉任命爱马为执政官的故事,我认为是其政治策略的一部分,是对元老院的嘲讽和权力展示。 总而言之,卡里古拉是一个复杂的人物,他的行为既有政治目的,也有其个人性格的因素。我们不能简单地将其归结为疯子或纯粹的暴君。 Dominic Sandbrook: 我同意Tom的观点,苏维托尼乌斯对卡里古拉的描述,虽然提供了大量细节,但其真实性有待考量。我们对卡里古拉的了解主要依赖于苏维托尼乌斯的单一来源,这使得我们难以全面客观地评价其统治。 卡里古拉的统治初期相对平静,但他生病后,对潜在继承人的担忧加剧了他的不安全感,并促使他采取了更强硬的统治策略。他清除异己,巩固权力,并最终与元老院彻底决裂。 卡里古拉的统治风格与提比略形成鲜明对比,他是一个天生的民粹主义者,善于利用公众形象和戏剧性的公众表演来赢得民众的支持。他通过举办各种娱乐活动,向民众散财,来巩固自己的统治。 卡里古拉对元老院的蔑视和残酷镇压,也是其统治策略的一部分。他利用权力来羞辱和惩罚元老,以此来削弱他们的影响力。 卡里古拉的死,是其统治策略失败的结果。他未能维持与禁卫军的良好关系,最终被禁卫军杀害。 总而言之,卡里古拉的统治是一个充满权力斗争、阴谋和暴行的时期。他的行为既有政治目的,也有其个人性格的因素。我们对他的评价,需要结合历史背景和多方面证据来进行,不能简单地将其归结为疯子或纯粹的暴君。

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This chapter explores the conflicting narratives surrounding Caligula, examining his infamous reputation and the historical context of his reign. It delves into his family background and the legacy of his father, Germanicus, to understand how his early life shaped his public image and rule.
  • Caligula's notorious reputation for cruelty and debauchery
  • His short reign (four years)
  • The limited historical sources available, primarily Suetonius' biography
  • Emphasis on Caligula's illustrious bloodline and its impact on his rise to power

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"Enough of the Princeps, what remains to be described, is the monster..."

The Roman emperor Caligula endures as one of the most notorious figures in not only Roman history, but the history of the world. Famed as a byword for sexual degeneracy, cruelty and corruption, the account of his life written by the Roman historian Suetonius has, above all, enshrined him as such for posterity. Throughout the biography there is a whiff of dark comedy, as Caligula is cast as the ultimate demented caesar, corrupted absolutely by his absolute power and driven into depravity. Born of a sacred and illustrious bloodline to adored parents, his early life - initially so full of promise - was shadowed by tragedy, death, and danger, the members of his family picked off one by one by the emperor Tiberius. Nevertheless, Caligula succeeded, through his own cynical intelligence and cunning manipulation of public spectacle, to launch himself from the status of despised orphan, to that of master of Rome. Yet, before long his seemingly propitious reign, was spiralling into a nightmare of debauchery and terror….

Join Tom and Dominic as they discuss the most notorious emperor in Rome: Caligula, a man said to have slept with his sister, transformed his palace into a brothel, cruelly humiliated senators, and even made his horse into a consul. But what is the truth behind these horrific legends? Was Caligula really more monster than man...? 

Pre-order Tom Holland's new translation of 'The Lives of the Caesars' here: 

https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/279727/the-lives-of-the-caesars-by-suetonius/9780241186893


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