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John Kelly's Trump Bombshell
2024/10/23
Pod Save America
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Alex Wagner
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Dan Pfeiffer
前白宫通信主任和《Pod Save America》播客的共同主持人，专注于政治、通信和数字策略。
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Kamala Harris
第一位非裔女性和第一位亚裔美国人担任美国副总统，曾任加利福尼亚州检察总长和美国参议员。
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Sherrod Brown
Dan Pfeiffer: 认为特朗普符合法西斯主义的定义，并指出特朗普曾多次称赞希特勒，这表明他对历史缺乏了解，并且对希特勒的所作所为并不反感。他还强调，特朗普试图行使独裁行为，但被身边的人阻止了，而这些人现在不会再在他身边。他认为，特朗普支持者不相信特朗普会付诸行动，这是个根本性问题，但媒体的传播渠道已经损坏，大多数人不会看到这些信息。
Alex Wagner: 指出前将军约翰·凯利称特朗普为法西斯主义者，这应该引起所有人的警觉。她认为，特朗普支持者不相信特朗普会付诸行动，这是个根本性问题。她还指出，人们对特朗普的所作所为似乎麻木了，应该关注特朗普周围的“帮凶”，并指出特朗普的政治喜剧行为分散了人们对更严重问题的关注。
Kamala Harris: 谴责特朗普援引希特勒，认为这令人不安且极其危险，并强调如果特朗普再次当选，那些曾经试图阻止他的人将不会再在他身边。她认为，特朗普想要不受限制的权力，而美国人民需要做出选择。
Sherrod Brown: 他认为政治不应该只是左或右，而是要看人们站在哪一边。他指出，他的对手在堕胎、最低工资和对待工人方面都存在问题，并强调自己会站在俄亥俄州人民的一边。他还谈到了特朗普及其盟友对俄亥俄州斯普林菲尔德市的谎言宣传，以及如何处理选民对生活成本和移民问题的担忧。他认为，政治家们不应该为了政治目的制造分裂。
Deep Dive
Why did John Kelly confirm that Trump praised Hitler's generals?
Kelly confirmed hearing Trump praise Hitler's generals to highlight Trump's admiration for authoritarian figures.
How does Sherrod Brown plan to win over Trump voters in Ohio?
Brown focuses on fighting for workers and standing up to interest groups, emphasizing his record of supporting workers' rights.
What is Kamala Harris's strategy for the final two weeks of the campaign?
Harris is focusing on high-profile rallies with Obama, Eminem, and Bruce Springsteen, and addressing key issues like abortion rights.
Why did Barack Obama rap at a campaign event?
Obama rapped to make the event more engaging and to reach younger voters, leveraging his popularity and charisma.
How does Sherrod Brown address the issue of immigration in his campaign?
Brown ties immigration to economic issues, emphasizing corporate greed and the need for comprehensive solutions, including addressing fentanyl trafficking.
Discussion on John Kelly's revelation that Trump praised Hitler and his potential fascist tendencies, and how this impacts the election.
- John Kelly confirms Trump praised Hitler.
- Trump's admiration for dictators and authoritarian figures.
- Concerns about Trump's potential use of military force against domestic opponents.
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