EP.233 - NEVER TOUCH ELBOWS VOODOO, DARK KANYE THEORY & 100 MEN VS GORILLA
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No. Why you're not supposed to touch other people's elbows? No, what? Oh, you never heard of that? No. So, Malaysian Airlines? Yeah. Did you see that? What happened with that? What happened? So, news came out and it shows where the plane actually went. Wait, is it the one with the three orbs? Have you ever had a dream about this tiger? No. Keep watching, keep watching, look. So, that picture went viral on Twitter. Somebody posted it and said, I had a dream about this tiger. Now, what happened after this person posted this? Right there, right there. Oh, you see, right? Oh, you see, right?

It was sinners eyes. Yeah, the sinners eyes. You know when they're in the forest and you see the glory? And you see the glory.

I just woke up from a dream today. And you know when you go into like, it's half sleep paralysis, but half not. You know what I'm talking about? It's like in between. You know you're asleep, but you're kind of still awake. It was weird as shit. Because when I was sleeping, I felt as if I was hearing the radio. Yeah. So I was in sleep paralysis, but I felt like radio static. Yeah. And I could hear like a little bit of music.

Yeah, fam. But I was, I couldn't move, obviously. I don't know if it's a hallucination, but it kept, it kept doing that. Like, I could hear different, like, you know what I mean? Weird as shit, bro. So what were you, what do you think it was? My theory, my theory is, secular, what are you talking about? Like, demonic?

No, my theory is like, maybe when we're sleeping, we could access... Because those shits are always around. Like, radio waves and stuff. Maybe in that exact moment, I could, like, connect to it. But what was your dream about? Were you dreaming about something that was related? Before that...

No, no, no, no. Before that, it was actually black. Like my dream was low-key black. But I could, I could, because I was still kind of awake, but not. I was in, I was dead-ass sleep paralysis. My eyes were closed. I couldn't just like move. But I could just hear everything. It's weird. And there's this new thing. This is, okay, hold on. I'm going to show you something real quick. All right, question. Have you ever had a dream about this tiger? No. Keep watching, keep watching. Look, look.

Look, just take a look at this and tell me if it looks familiar or if it calls to you at all. Not at all. Not at all. Okay. So that picture went viral on Twitter. Somebody posted it and said, I had a dream about this tiger and this exact picture, right? Now, what happened after this person posted this picture, many people, once they seen it, they had dreams of the same tiger and they grew an obsession to drawing it.

So after that tweet, literally thousands of people, this has 25 million views. After that tweet, so many different people started drawing it and started seeing it in their dreams. And they had an obsession to spend hours and hours doing artwork depicting the same tiger. Well, what it is right now, it's just a tiger. That's what it is. It's a dream. Okay.

But the theory is a lot of people are saying this is exactly what demons or other, I guess, lesser gods try to control people with. So it's like they'll show up in your dream and you end up trying to worship it because you think of its significance. So if you see it now, and I low-key just cursed everybody that's watching. Wow, bro.

No, but if you dream about this tiger, that means it's trying to like, you know, call to you and it's trying to make you worship it. And doing drawings is one way people are being, I guess, trapped into the whole lore of it. But once you see it, you might become obsessed and you might spend hours drawing it. Crazy. Yeah.

25 million views. Damn, there's thousands of people that started drawing it. And it's really weird that it just started off one, two years. You know, like, so I just recently saw Sinners 2. Yeah. And so it did kind of like felt weird in my spirit. You're right. Really? How so? I don't know. It's like during the movie, during especially the music part,

during the music parts especially because I was trolling my girl right and like she's Christian like she's into like the secular non-secular yeah so there was a part when I think Remick like started dancing and I'm like I'm like doing this right and then my girl stop dancing like that's

I was like, wait, why? Oh, because you got caught into the trance. I'm like, yo, what? I didn't know that, right? And then there's other theories that I caught on. And I don't know if you caught these, but when they were handing the garlic to everyone, remember? So my girl was like, oh, this is kind of symbolism of a holy communion. And the people... Oh, because they're sharing it. Yeah, and the people that were like, kind of like, remember the Perlene and Slim? They kind of were like, oh.

They didn't want it, right? It's because they were wrapped around in their sins. So when they took it, remember Slim was like, oh, I'm trying to fight it and stuff like that. Because he's obviously like the alcoholism and the Perlene was committing lust. So that's why they didn't want to do it. Wait, who's Perlene? Oh, the singer. Yeah, the singer. Oh.

That's why they didn't want to take it like the body of Christ in their body. Oh, because it was rejecting. Because it was rejecting. Oh, shit. That's interesting. And also, there's a Chinese urban legend where you're not supposed to write things or a person's name in red. Wait, why? Because it's like a sign of death.

and like that person getting sick or something, right? So they emphasize the scene. They're like, oh, I only have one marker, smoke, and it's red. So I'm like, oh, maybe that might be a foreshadow. Who was the one that died too? It was the guy in the red hat. Uh...

Stacked. He's the one that got killed too. So like even the red jukebox. The symbolism of red. Yeah, they wrote the jukebox in red. Everyone died. A hell of people died. So you can't, is it in Asian culture? Just you can't use red? You can't write a person's name in red ink on paper or else it's going to foreshadow into death. I swear all our fucking Scantron tests had us in pink writing or red writing. It was pink. It was pink, not red. It's low-key red.

No, no, no. It was pink. I remember. Nandella Effect is low-key red. No, no, no. It was pink. It was the green scrunch on and then the pink. Even the answers, the correct answers were in pink. It might be red, fam. No, no, no. Trust, trust. I took halocyan shots, bro. I was in university longer than you, so. So why? Why? Yeah. Why was red? Why was red ink or why are red pens a thing then? I don't know. Is that actually? I actually don't know. Is it easy to see red writing on stuff? I guess. Yeah, I guess. But I feel like it's just a Chinese tradition. So like they would carry

I'm not gonna lie. Whenever I see like blue and black seem right for pens. Yeah. But if you use a red pen, it feels kind of sus. Yeah, yeah. We always use awkward, no? It is awkward. It is awkward. It's just a little bit weird. Yeah. I don't think I've ever used red pen to write a full paragraph. It was only to, you know, like when you make corrections. To highlight and stuff? Yeah. Like when you make corrections, like this is wrong. Because I couldn't imagine doing all my notes. Yeah. In red ink. Mm.

That's weird. It's weird, yeah. It's unsettled in my soul. And it's bad to look at. It's weird to look at. So maybe the Asian in me is rejecting the red ink, man. Maybe it just runs in Asians. Like you see a white guy just writing out shit in red and then we're all looking at him like, wait a minute, you're not supposed to be doing that. Maybe, maybe. You know what I mean?

Okay, you know at school when you used to write tests and shit and used to be like, you know, studying at your desk. Usually our desks are really close together, right? Have you ever heard of the elbow voodoo? Elbow voodoo? No. You never heard about this? No. Why you're not supposed to touch other people's elbows? No, what? Oh, you never heard about this? No. I thought you know this. Okay, so in voodoo rituals or in voodoo itself, there's one specific thing that you have to avoid. Oh.

It's rubbing elbows with somebody. Okay. And it's crazy. Yeah. So there's this video that went viral on TikTok and it's of this guy. He's in New Orleans. Now, I don't know if you know about New Orleans like that, but there's a lot of people that practice witchcraft, voodoo, all these different things. Okay. Now, there's this one guy, and it's caught on video. He's trying to convince a stranger that he can tell him his future. All he has to do is rub elbows with him. Oh.

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now check this out. So the whole purpose of it and the reason it holds so much danger is because if you rub elbows with somebody and somebody that knows what they're doing with it, they can switch their destiny with you. No way. So it's called a destiny swap. What the?

What the f- Yeah, it's called a destiny swap. So, imagine you're back in elementary school. Whoever you're sitting beside, you rubbed elbows with, you might have swapped destinies with that person. Yo, I definitely had one of those moments too. Definitely had one of those moments. So, this is the video I'll show you. Let me see. What the f- Wait, but he has to know what he's doing with that though.

Like, I bet you a grade four wouldn't be knowing, like, if we rubbed elbows. Maybe. I don't know. I don't know how exactly it works. Yeah. But this is the video that went viral. This has, like, 2.2 mil, like, likes. It's a random man on the Bourbon Street asking if you can tell him your future. And the other guy says, I know better than that because the shadow man taught me. Something like that. That's what he said. Oh, my God.

Crazy. Yeah, you have to be careful with that shit too. So they say people like that, they can have a sense of when somebody carries a good destiny or they carry certain spiritual power and they'll target them specifically and they'll go up to them and say, they'll try to trick them to touching elbows.

Crazy. So the reason being too, they believe the elbow is like a hinge. So you can imagine it's like a hinge to your body, right? It can move different ways really quickly and it opens like a door. So when you rub elbows with somebody, you could be trading your destiny with them.

Yeah, even when that girl, the person in centers who was doing the thing, the voodoo, I still got weird vibes from that. I'm like, oh, Lord, please protect me. I do not claim nothing. I said that in my head when she was doing it. I'm like, that's weird. And I've seen another video. You know how you do the egg cleanse? Yeah. There was another person who... I don't do that no more. Yeah, no, obviously. I did it. Obviously. But there's other cleanses. I've seen a video in Cuba where this person had a...

a bowl of water right in front of her. And then the voodoo person started pulling hairs outside of... I can't even show you the video because obviously it's going to get flagged. But they were pulling hairs outside the mouth and she did a curse. And then she's like, please heal me, please heal me. More hair came out. And it was supposed to be that long generation of trauma that they were trying to get out. So the longer the hair it would be, the bigger trauma it would get or went out. Damn. Yeah.

that's that's dark very because when you when you see something come out like that and it's like very that's horrible yeah real shit yeah and you can't fake that like oh okay well you're gonna swallow hair and throw it up nah bro like that person definitely knows what he's doing oh my god bro and there was another one where um a person would dead ass go to a grave site yeah and look for hexes and rituals done to that person's dead and yo wait at their

grave yeah because some people like once they're dead a person that like didn't like you yeah could go and put a hex or a ritual you're already dead though no no on your family at your grave yes wouldn't they do it to like them why you because it's like okay say you didn't like the person yeah and you you don't want their family to even succeed so you would go there and you would put a hex or ritual on their family too that's double down evil double down he's already he's already

Dead. Yes, exactly. What the fuck? So this guy, he's literally most known viral for this because he went and at one person's grave, there was like a coffee jar, right? Yeah. So he turned it open and he couldn't get the stuff out. So he had to break it. Once it broke, fam, there was pictures of like the kids, pictures of the mom, pictures of the grandma. Oh, that's crazy. Surrounded by raw meat. What the hell?

Garlic and salt. So this guy, he was explaining. He's like, oh, if they put raw meat in a bunch of these pictures, what is it for? Yeah, what does that mean? This is definitely a hex for sickness, for death. They're trying to put on their family. I'm like, what the fuck?

yo literally pictures on pictures fam that's crazy like imagine watching that video and it's like your your brother my theory on that is whoever found it it was his destiny to stop it yeah also i think the whole i guess ideology behind it is eventually that meat will rot yeah yeah no literally yeah yeah eventually that meat will rot so if he caught it before it like started rotting yeah yeah he probably saved it it was definitely like still like pinkish still

Yeah. Like some parts had like the black, but like it was still there. That's fuck. That's crazy. Because it's almost, it's pretty much like an energy to things, right? Like I wouldn't. For example, if there's a cross somewhere, I wouldn't defile it in any way because there's obviously meaning toward it. So if let's say you had something that you owned. Yeah.

So you had a sweater. In a sense, you would treat that thing based on the person that owns it in the same light. Like, I wouldn't want to disrespect something that somebody's I care about, you know? Facts, facts. Because then it's like defiling the energy around it. Yeah. Am I the only one that feels like that? No, no. Sometimes like, especially the thrift store stuff, like...

I don't carry it because I don't want to like disrespect it at my house. You know what I mean? Wait, what? Like, you know, like stuff at the thrift store, like maybe like teddy bears or like antiques. I stay away from that because it's like, what if it does carry a weird energy? But wouldn't clothes do the same thing? Yeah, clothes would do the same. That's why it's like, oh, maybe if you throw it on the ground wrong, then it's like maybe you're disrespecting it by accident. You know what I mean? You know what would be really cool? Yeah. If every single thrifted piece of item we own. Yeah. It almost. Came with a backstory. Yeah.

and it also like changes us a little bit. Like it gives us, it gives us traits of that person. Yeah. That'll be a sick movie. That'll be a fucking fire plot. That's Black Mirror still. That'll be a fucking fire plot, bro. Who would you, okay, you know that voodoo thing, that elbow thing? Who would I, who would you, like, like, and how would you do it? You know, like how the, how Mary was very sneaky on how she asked to get in the, the juke? She's like, oh, you gonna move out the way? I was like, yo, that's, that's sneaky as fuck. That's manipulation, so. That's manipulation. Oh,

I don't know, bro. Yeah. I'd be like, no, I'd go up to them like, yo, what's good? What's good? Oh, my hands are wet. Oh,

I swear I've done that. I've done that with you before too. Oh my god. My hands are... What are you saying? What are you saying? That's really good. I'm not gonna lie. That would work. Yeah, that's... That would work. That's Mary type of manipulations. Yeah, that's probably what I'd do. I'd probably do that to Timothée Chalamet or something. I'd probably do it to like him. Maybe... Who's like an upcoming star? Who's sick right now? Um... Marvin... I don't even know. Yeah, fuck it. I'll go Michael B. Jordan just so I can... I think there's an actor named Ethan Huang. Maybe I'll...

I think he'd be a good pick too. He's on the come up as well. He owned my bad hands away. That's really good though. That's really good. Holy. I think that... Yo, now I have it in my head. Yeah. Was there somebody that I low-key took their destiny when I was in elementary school? No, for sure. But if it works by accident, that probably is true. But like, I don't think...

like i said yeah because i i know for a fact yeah i'd be like this doing my homework or whatever and i definitely touch elbows yeah for sure that's 100 so for everybody that runs a business out there i know it's intimidating even when i started this podcast i felt like i had to figure it out all on my own scripts setups filming locations and logos and when you're starting off with something new it seems like your to-do list keeps growing every day with new tasks and that list

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That's A-U-R-A dot com slash defense. Certain terms apply, so be sure to check the site for details. Also, that was kind of Riz back in the day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was just going to say that. If you have a cute girl beside you, you know what I'm saying? Like a one-two. I was just going to say that like the touch, the touch thing. I was like, yeah. Do you think there's any spiritual significance to the feet? Paws. Feets. But is there any like, you know, you know when people like play foot shit? I feel like you can't. I feel like you can't fuck with the feet because it's too, it's.

Like there's a very strong connection with your feet and the ground. So it's like, I feel like regardless of what you try to do there, it's very hard to do. You know that thing how they say, there's like a magic when you touch someone, like a crush or whoever. Yeah. And then there's like a spark you feel. Okay. Do you think it works on both ends or is it just for you?

You know what I'm talking about here or no? Like what? When you touch a person and they... Like accidentally or like you just leave it there? Oh, no. It definitely works on both. You think it works on both ends? Yeah, it has to. I don't know, bro. But if it's a crush on both, then it's going to work, obviously. Yeah, but that's different. But if you're like bumping into a random person and like, oh, you think in your mind, that probably is a one-way street. I'm not going to lie. What if...

But who knows though? Who knows? We actually can't prove it. Yeah. We actually cannot prove it. I guess. Well, what if that's like a mind sweeper type thing? Like what if you go around doing that and you can find out if you're supposed to be talking to that person, that person's supposed to be in their life, whatever. That just sounds like another Black Mirror episode, fam. Like, oh, I'm supposed to bump into random people and see if there's a connection? Nah. Okay, well, what if there's something you could do to find out if a person is supposed to be in your life or not? Would you want to use it?

Yeah, probably. That'd be fire. Yeah, I would want to use it on, like, my love life still. That would be fire. Yeah. But what if it tells you something you don't want to hear? Like, what if you use it on your girl and then it tells you, like, yeah, you guys, there's supposed to be somebody else. That would be crazy. You know what I mean? No, but I think that, like, then I'll, like, okay, then.

then it's time to it's time to get like make another plan like if destiny's telling me this that's true that's true whatever whatever like god's plan is god's plan is right you can't really like and that's what my dad told me too recently he said when when he had me yeah right like when my mom had me yeah he didn't necessarily plan oh at this age i'm gonna have a kid and i want to have a family and this and that he said it just happens and it just goes

Like, you shouldn't be planning too hard because when you do that, there's expectations. Yeah, there's expectations and God might see those expectations and be like, no, you think it's gonna go your way? Yeah. Nah, it's gonna go my way. Exactly. And then that's you having ego or pride of trying to control what you aren't even meant to control. Yeah, yeah. Talking about babies, fam, did you see the sperm race? Yeah, I saw that. Oh my gosh. That shit was actually cool to see though. Yo, it was though. And I was like, yo, the fact that

they have microscopes and they could see how fast your shit is moving. That's pretty fast. Yeah. It was pretty sick. And I'm like, yo, there's a lot of them too. So I'm like, oh, this is crazy. So like every time a man like busts a nut, fam, you actually have like 60 kids. You think you could beat me? Low key, yeah. Okay, on an alkaline diet though? Oh, never mind. Yo, you're training for that shit. You want a keto diet? My shit's all nuts, fam. Mine's all natural, though.

I'm not doing no keto, no diet, bro.

No, but that's what determines how fast. And you're in Ashwagandha, right? So it's like the testosterone would be amplified? It depends, yeah. Yeah, it depends. I'm not in Ashwagandha. Oh, I thought you were. I haven't been on that for a while. Word, okay. My fault. Also, it doesn't work how you think, bro. Why? It doesn't like... It's not that crazy. See, this is what I think. In my eyes, you guys, whoever takes Ashwagandha, they automatically just get hella horny and then they just like...

Once that's over, then they get into a phase where it's like, oh, I don't give a fuck about anything. Like, I don't care. Like, you're numb to a lot of emotions. You know what I mean? So I feel like it's stages. Like, you're either, like, super bricked all the time or it's like you're just super nonchalant all the time. You know how it actually works? For me, it just makes you depressed. Whoa. It just makes you cold. So if I'm not loving and if I'm not, I don't know, expressive and cold, I'm probably on it. But...

But I don't really take it like that. Yeah, there was a time where I knew you were on it, though. Because it's like, yo, you... You just don't... You don't care. You were not caring about anything I said, bro. I'm like, what the fuck? It's like... I wouldn't say soulless. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's definitely cold-hearted. Yeah, yeah. But the business in you, I feel like that's good for business sales. Because it's like, you're not stooping down to no one's level. It's like, you want that deal. You know what I mean? Yeah, you're very clear-headed on things. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Exactly.

Because, but it depends. Like some people, yo, you could just look at like, let's say you see a person, you can tell they have a high ass testosterone or whatever. You just can see how they move. They're definitely very stern, solid on their decisions. You know, they don't trace back on what they say. Yeah.

And they go with what they want to do, right? But it doesn't deter. I don't know. It's not that big of a deal. Yeah. It just is like kind of personality thing. It definitely helps with mindset. But you don't need that to be that person. If anything, that makes it worse. Because when you rely on things, you think, oh, is that Iron Man thing? So Iron Man and Captain America, they were fighting, right? And then Iron Man goes, everything that makes you special came out of a bottle. Yeah.

to Captain America because the super serum like made him thing, right? But not that, that wasn't really true because Captain America, he has the biggest heart or whatever. And then Captain America said to Tony, take off that suit. What are you? Oh, nothing. No. And then Iron Man said, genius, billionaire, philanthropist, playboy. Yeah. Oh shit. Cause he is. He's right. Yeah. So we, all of us have our thing that kind of makes us cool. Kind of makes us, Oh, this is what makes me sick or whatever. Yeah.

Strip all that shit down. What's the mentality you still have on the street when you have nothing? Yeah, yeah. That's a different ballpark. Exactly. A lot of people, too. Exactly. Yeah, yeah. Like, strip off all the accolades. Mm-hmm.

mindset wise what do you carry with you who are you yeah yeah who are you you know like too like um the nfl draft was a couple days ago and like yo this guy named shador sanders like he's very like cocky right but like again his skills at the end of the day you put all his cockiness and his interviews away he's still like a top five quarterback right and this is one of the craziest pranks i've ever seen right so during the draft

Like there's a bunch of people that were gonna be selected, right? And he's supposed to go in the first round. So first round comes and he's not selected. And he's throwing a big ass party. Like he thinks that he's going first round. Yeah. Right? So boom. First round comes, his name doesn't get called.

Second round comes, name doesn't get called. Fam, this guy drops all the way to the fifth round. But in between those rounds, so the NFL gives all these draft players a phone. So the teams can call that phone and be like, oh, we're going to pick you next. Like, get ready for a celebration, right? Fam, like some university kids somehow got a...

a hold of that number. Only the NFL gave that out to the teams. So he picks up the phone and he goes, oh, he's excited. He's like, who is this? And the university kid that's pranking goes, this is GM of the Saints. We're going to pick you next. Oh, so he pranked him. And he's waiting for bear time. So he's excited. Everyone's starting to celebrate. Oh, yeah. He's like, I've been waiting for this call. You did it too long. And then the guy goes, oh, yeah. Well, you're going to be waiting a bit longer, buddy. Damn.

Yo, and I was like, fam, that's the devil, fam. Like, imagine on your biggest, like, day. So he didn't get drafted at all? No, he got drafted fifth round. But this phone call was during the first and second, so he was hyped. Oh.

So imagine a guy saying, yo, you got to wait a little bit longer, buddy. Yeah, that sucks, bro. Bro. And the fact that they even got that number. No one has that number except NFL teams. Yeah. What puts you to do that to somebody, though? See, like, that's where it's controversy because half of the internet is saying it's funny. Half of the internet is saying it's, like,

bad. It is kind of funny. It is funny, but at the same time, there's no morals to that. Yeah, there isn't. It just ruins a moment. It's like pranking somebody on their wedding proposal. Yeah, Loki! That's somebody's special moment. You're going to really mess up someone's special moment. That's a good equivalent thing to that. Yeah, because I feel like we all have special moments in our life that you could look forward to, and if somebody else ruins it, that's a memory. I wouldn't want somebody to ruin, let's say...

Prom. Yeah, yeah. Wedding night. Shit. Like, those are the things that you stick around like, damn, that was a pivotal moment in my life. What do you think was a pivotal moment in your life that could have went really, really bad, but it didn't? Could have went really, really bad. That you remember. Like, a good one that you remember, but it could have actually went bad.

off the top of my head, probably my first, my first ever Taekwondo tournament. Like if I lost that, I would have probably would have been a different person. If you lost your first? Yeah. Cause I would quit Taekwondo. You would quit off a first loss? Yeah, fam. I,

I was, yeah, you know me. I'm a confidence player. Like if I, if it's my first one and I get beat up the first time, I'm not going back. Word. Yes, fam. That's kind of crazy. Yeah. So like I went, literally, yo, the only time I quit, fam, was when I, when I received my first loss after like a hundred fights, fam, I finally lost. And I was like. That's when you stopped? Yeah. And I'm like, I'm out. Actually? Yeah. In my first tournament. I mean, my, my later tournament when I was a black belt and I finally lost, I'm like, oh, I'm out. What the hell? Yeah. Yeah. That's actually kind of wild to me. Yeah. Yeah. You didn't know that?

nah yeah I went like fam I had a crazy streak it was like maybe 80 and 0 and then I finally lost like off like 2 points and I'm like oh I'm done Taekwondo that's kinda wild yeah cause my first fight I lost but that's what made me wanna keep going yeah that's what made me wanna keep going I'm like

Fuck that, I'm not gonna keep losing. But that was your first fight. Like low-key, like I feel you though. In the moment, I probably would've quit, but then I'm like, damn, I probably should go back because I can't go out like that. But like as a kid, I'm surprised you went back though. Nah, I couldn't go down like that. I couldn't go down like that. Yeah.

I came back champ too. I came back champ too, bro. No, because it's a different thing, bro. If you come off like a loss, you have nothing else to lose, really. So there's only one way to success. That's why whenever I see like a step back in something...

It's not necessarily a bad thing. Yeah, it's a lesson. Yeah, it's not a loss, really. What it is is a recalibration. Yeah, really? It's just a recalibration. Yeah, yeah. How about you in your life? What do you think that could have gone wrong? One moment I remember all the time and it could have went wrong. Like super wrong. It could have changed the direction of your life. I would say if I failed my lifeguard training. Oh, wow.

Why? Because I would just feel like a failure. Okay, okay. So kind of like... Yeah. Also, anything where I trained really hard for... And you failed? And I still failed. Mmm.

Because to me, training really hard for something and achieving it, I don't think I ever trained really, really hard for something and didn't achieve what I wanted. Word. It's because I worked out hard. So that's what I'm trying to say. Like, imagine you work really, really hard for something and it still doesn't go. I did that, yeah, during my accounting. Oh, really? 40 plus hours on an exam and I still got like a 50. And I was like, yeah, I'm out.

Word. That was the most disheartening, like, you know, like, when you feel just like, damn, like, you just got two punches to the fucking face, fam. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you did all this work and you still. But I think, I think that's one, it's a sign it's not for you. Yeah, I think that's one it's a sign for you. That's still a blessed moment because I'm like, yeah, this is not

for me yeah because at least like you you gave it your all if you give it your all and i still fail yeah it's not for me and i think i think the way my life went with things is if if i gave it my all it turned out right so i know to always give it my all because when i don't that's when i feel yeah yeah

Facts, facts. That's true. But there's no like shortcuts and shit. Oh, there is now. Did you see? Like what? We're getting really close to Black Mirror because there's this guy who just made another AI program and he's still getting into the works where he can get into glasses. It's called

Oh, Clue. And it's supposed to be for dating apps, but you can also use it for like meetings, sales. Oh my God, that's dead ass Black Mirror. That's an episode we watched last night. And I think you predicted it too. You said it in a previous episode. So in the ad, the guy was talking to a girl and he had glasses on. And the AI is picking up whatever the girl's saying. And giving him what to say. Say oh!

Translating what he can say. Bro, this guy that made it got kicked out of his university because he made it. He made it and everybody's saying, you fucking immortal guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But this guy's standing on 10 toes. He's like, fam, people called calculators cheating. People called Google cheating. I am not stopping. Is it immoral? Ugh.

I don't think so. Like, I'm always for tech and thing. Because obviously when people get scared when technology makes us smarter. But I feel like that's a good thing. Like, if you know how to use it, you can use it to your advantage. So why not move with the times? I don't think it's immortal, fam. Like, as an introvert, oh, yes, give me those. I can just read off. Imagine all the... It definitely helps people, 100%. But do you think it ruins human interaction a little bit? It does. It does, but it's like...

That's why I see a problem. I see that's where it's a problem is because I think it takes challenge for you to be a good person and deserving of, like, think about it. All the great things in life, they're great because you kind of worked for it. So if you didn't have the confidence for it and you just faked it or like did something that wasn't, you know, you might feel like shit later when you're with somebody and she fell in love with somebody that's not you.

You got what I'm saying? And it might just cause even more trouble down the line. I don't know. That's what I think. But do you know what happened in the Black Mirror episode? No, that you guys were watching? That's almost like based on? Yeah, yeah. Damn. So pretty much what it is. In Black Mirror episode, he had not glasses, but it's implants in his eyes. Okay.

And he was able to see people and hear people. And there's other people behind the scenes on a computer watching his every move, telling him what to say, what to do, how to riz people up, this and that, right? Now check this out.

So when he was raising up this one girl and she seemed kind of introverted She was a little bit in the corner by herself and they were talking they're talking and he was raising her up really well But she said she had to go to the bathroom. So she walked away and obviously he's Communicating to the person on the other end. So he's like talking to himself boom boom boom boom But the girl comes back and she sees him talking to himself. Oh Right. Yeah

And she's like immediately, hey, you want to come back to my place? Immediately. Okay. Now why though? So she can like, I saw him? She already knows like, you know, he's talking. So she brings him back to her place, right? Yeah.

And it turns out she gives him like a drink to like drink on. And she takes it too. And all of a sudden, when they're like on the bed before they start kissing and stuff, the drink makes him start spitting out blood. Oh, shit. And she says, I saw you talking. I saw you talking. I know you can hear them too. What?

So she was actually sick. She was actually sick in her head. And she wanted to release him. She's like, I'm going to release you. We can end it now. Oh, wow. So that was like the murder right there. Damn. Yeah. But realistically, but what actually happened was all those people coaching him how to Riz and stuff like that. She just wanted to send a message to them. No, she didn't know about them. Oh, she didn't know. She thought he was schizophrenic, just like her.

okay now i get it yeah she thought he was crazy just like her that's why she fell in love with him like oh you understand me oh let's end it tonight like we can we can finish it together and give him the drink boom boom and they both drank it she died too they both died yeah crazy that's see with this technology it probably will end up like some that's gonna be dead as another story the crazy thing about the eyes too is um in the show you could block somebody like

like out of your life so let's say you didn't like somebody I could block you and I would only see like a blob like you'd still be around you'd still be able to like interact with me but I wouldn't be able to see you and you wouldn't be able to see me like if we're standing right here yeah you wouldn't be able to see me and I wouldn't be able to see you it would just be like a blob what the fuck

It'd be like a blob. But you can like interact with things that are around me or you can like touch me, but you wouldn't be able to see me. Yeah, yeah. I wouldn't be able to hear you either. Yeah, yeah. It's like when like you block someone on Instagram and then you only see that, that, you know, the default profile picture. And then like, yeah, that's in real life now. Yeah. And then the craziest thing too is if somebody went to jail, they would be blocked by everybody else. Okay. They'll be blocked by everyone. That's crazy.

So imagine you walk around your whole life never seeing another person. You just see like blobs. That's savage. That's sad.

sad. I mean, you could live alone. It's just all distorted. Like, yo, where's my mom at? Like, you could live alone, though, realistically. But do you think love, do you think, like, say that's your mom, right? You think, regardless of the blob, since you have that heart feeling, that heart-to-heart, you would still, like... Love the blob? Yeah. Because, you know, like, when people fall into, like, the

when you get old, you get... What's that thing where you lose memory? Alzheimer's. Alzheimer's. Like, sometimes there's a lot of cases where it's like, hey, mom, do you remember me? And then it's like, wait, I do. Because it's like, you still have that connection, right? Of course. I feel anybody you have a deep attachment to, you can't just let go. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. So I feel like that would be a sick plot twist. Like if the blob was there, they would be like, wait, that is my mom. And then it slowly like shows the picture. It wouldn't show it because it's like that technology. Yeah, I guess. Yeah. But I could see it still working in a way. You just have to be comfortable with hearing. Yeah. Yeah.

Because that's all you hear. And then all you see is... You know what I'm saying? So it's just a tough way to live. Real shit. And especially if you're blocked by everybody in the world. That's just going to be terrible. I don't know how you could do that for FM. That's why maybe in the new generation of technology, you'll actually only have relationships with the deep connections now. It's like, because now everything's, you know...

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So what's your take on Kanye loving his cousin? This song's low-key a banger. Why is it catchy, bro? Why is it catchy? Yo, Kanye's been on a roll, bro. This guy, I'm not gonna lie. Not on a roll of what he's saying, but just the funny shit he's doing on stream. If he wanted to turn streaming into his... He could just quit rap and just become a streamer fam. That's pure cinema every stream, dawg.

Okay. Yeah. So I have a theory. Okay. And it's going to change how everybody sees Kanye right now. Ready? Oh, no. Okay. No, like, it's actually a valid theory. Yeah, yeah. What if...

All of this is this humiliation ritual. It could be. Low-key. Think about it real quick. Think about it. He's doing low-key the most embarrassing things, the most outlandish shit, embarrassing himself, making a huge ruckus in the media world. Now, what is he also doing? He's bringing up all of these deep, dark conspiracies that are dangerous. Obviously, the conspiracy around certain people. Yeah, yeah.

But check this out. What if that's the plan? Is to make him sound so crazy that the conspiracy that may be true also sound crazy because he's doing all these other crazy things. It's like the Ryan Garcia thing. It's like, oh, I'm gonna act crazy. But at the same time, I'm gonna spill some stuff so people don't think I'm being serious, but it's actually serious. The opposite. Oh, so he might be controlled to look crazy. Yeah.

To say all these different things, humiliate himself because maybe he gets something out of it. Mm.

And then invalidate all of the real shit he could be saying. Because him doing all these other things invalidates all the other stuff. And now he just seems mentally ill. Real shit, yeah. And if that was his plan, the PR is perfect. Because it's like, where is he going? He's going on the biggest streams. He's going to kick where you can say whatever you want. He's collabing with Sneako. Why would Kanye ever want to be in a room with Sneako or Tom?

five like what so it's like yo the pr is like it's getting there it could be humiliation yeah but i don't know it's just a theory that has a theory it seems it seems more real that he's just actually in that stuff realistically rather than being controlled to do all these

But it is a good theory. No, real shit. And like another person that's kind of blowing up, but then he got stopped because he tried to do it in the Philippines. Did you see it? Vitaly? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They say he's going to die in prison. Yes, yes. People are saying that. Yes. And I didn't know that the president of the Philippines made a reaction video. A reaction video. It's straight up like the Fine Bros. Real shit. They sat him down in the room and he was like, yo, what am I watching? Yeah.

No, but that's... You know, especially... He was in the nice parts of the Philippines. Like the Manilas. You know what I mean? Imagine he did that shit in the hood parts. Like the real ghettos. I mean, regardless, he's in jail and prison right now. And people are saying, once the prisoners find out what he did and how he disrespected the country...

They might try to kill him in jail. Yeah, fam. Exactly. Like, speed, that's how you do it. You go to the country and you show the culture. Yeah. You don't mess with the culture, fam. I've seen this guy taking a police guard's hat and running away. I know. Okay, you're 40 years old. Why are you still doing this? Yeah. For clicks, bro?

What? It's kind of crazy. And I just realized now, you saying speed, that's why all these people are traveling now. I just bagged that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't even realize that. But that's why all these streamers are going to different countries and trying to do that stuff. Exactly. But speed does it properly. He does it properly because he does it with real security. He actually respects people. You think speed has a team kind of like telling him how to do things? Oh, yeah, yeah. For sure. For sure.

Probably. I think he's that big. I feel like, I love it when it's like, people don't think you're calculated, but the whole time, like, there's a documentary that comes out after and it shows how calculated you were. You know what I mean? It's like, you play one person and that's what everybody sees. But realistically, you have these, all these different strategies and shit around, right? Yeah, that's fair.

And also, you know, one of the biggest theories we talked about, the Malaysian Airlines. Yeah. Did you see that? What happened with that? What happened? So news came out and it shows on satellite cameras, on thermal cameras, where the plane actually went. Wait, is it the one with the... Yeah.

The three orbs going around. It's like spinning around you, right? So this plane was notorious for just disappearing randomly. And so one person put it on the internet and three little UFO-looking things started circling it. And then there was a flash and the plane was gone. And I was like, okay, this is low-key. I have to do more research still because this is BS, right? And then another angle with thermal camera came out.

Same shit. It's the same thing. Three orbs, flash, gone. Yeah, so... I'm like, yo. Deadass might be just aliens or whatever spaceships that, I don't know, teleported it. Holy smokes. Who knows what it is. Imagine you're that plane that, like, gets... Imagine you're on a flight. Yeah. And you're just chilling. You're looking out the window. You turn away to drink your drink. Yeah. You turn back. And all of a sudden, everyone's blue. Bro, what? He's like aliens and shit. I'm like, yo, this is crazy, bro.

That's crazy. Turn the plane around. But they did end up finding the plane. It was just crap. It was just like in the sea. Yes. But how it ended up there is still a mystery. Yeah. But the fact that UFOs, it landed, it ended up in the sea. There's lots of connections there. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. Like why the sea, bro? Because that's where all the aliens are. It was in the sea because they're flying over the sea. I guess. Yeah. But how it got there is what's weird. Exactly. Because...

If you actually looked into it, what happened with the plane was that it started flying in a whole different direction, but it wouldn't do that if the pilots were conscious. So people are wondering, why was the plane still flying in

into a completely different direction and then just ended up... Even though, yeah. Yeah, they have no clue. They have no clue, man. They have no clue, bro. But yeah, man. I have a video to show you. Look at this. This is in the Philippines, actually. Okay. They found a real Aswang. You know what Aswang is? Yo, I swear there's been real ones. There's been many real ones. Yeah, they have like giant ass bats. This might be a giant ass bat, to be honest. Let me see. But people are freaking out because in the video, that's what they say. It's like, holy shit, it's Aswang. Let me see, let me see. Like...

- Oh, wait, this actually might not be. - No, this is a legit video. - Yeah. - It's not no games, bro. - Look, look, watch, watch. - I called it. - Yo. - Look, look, look. You see something on the roof? And she says it's a song, right? - No, no, this is real fear, fam. - And look, look, look. Look what they see. It's like sinners, it's like sinners, watch. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - You see it really quickly. Wait for it. - Oh, you see it right?

It was sinners eyes. Yeah, the sinners eyes. You know when they're in the forest and you see the glory? And you see the glow. But it could be a big ass bat too because the Filipino bats are huge. Filipino bats are like as tall as Filipinos. Yeah, real shit. Like 4'11 fam. No, but seeing that fam, yeah, I would be scared. So that was real fear. Do you think you can... Fuck the gorilla. Do you think you can fight a big ass bat? A big ass bat?

By yourself. By myself? No. I think I could think of that by myself. No, because, okay, is fear installed still? Okay, 411. 411? Yeah, I would still be scared. Fam, because fear, yo, that's still fear. That's still an animal. You know what I mean? Even a hundred, like 50 guys versus a chimpanzee. You know what a chimpanzee did to that person. Yo, we can definitely care. Chimpanzee, bro? Yeah, we can definitely care about chimpanzees.

oh my gosh all right people forget this and it's gonna destroy what do they forget they forget this we did win that's why we're on top

Okay, yeah, but okay. We're the evolution that won, fam. Like, people are forgetting that shit. Like, that's why we're here. Yeah, but people still... Fam, fear, dog. Fear is a real thing in humans. There's no fear in a gorilla. Like, fear... A hundred people still have fear. Okay, so you're saying... You're saying an average man. Yes, an average man. Because if you pick people that are fearless, you can find people that are fearless. You know what I'm saying? Uh...

Maybe like a seal you throw out the John people are saying okay throw out the John Jones the Kimbo slices fam once Kimbo slice gets up there and he gets killed you don't you think John Jones will start fearing? Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. What? Yo when people certain warriors go to war fam. Yeah, when they see someone down they try harder. What the fuck?

Yeah. Nah. Oh, so you're thinking like real crash outs, like... No, I'm talking about real warriors. I'm talking about like people that actually fight. No, I'm still choosing the gorilla, bro. Over 100 people? Yes, bro. Like what damage are you really doing? Like it has skin. It has like hair you have to pull out. Yo, we can take out a gorilla, man. We can take out a gorilla. No, bro.

We won already. I was actually on that side until I realized like... We already won though is what I'm trying to say. A silverback gorilla. Bam, when you were in the zoo, you did this and then you instantly regretted it, bro. I want to see you front lines. Go front lines. Yo, I'm going to give him a flying knee straight to the nose. Look, I'm going to give him a flying knee straight to the nose and then the gorillas go...

Yeah, and then and then I'm a sorbet you my chance I

This is ego. And then, and then, when I hit him in the nose. Yeah? What are you gonna do? He's gonna hit this. Fuck, out of here. Yo, yo. I'm gonna make the gorilla go, no, this is narcissism, ego, and pride. This is what the, why the sinners got killed. A man said, come on in.

Holy f*ck. No, because you're forgetting too. What? The rules are different. The rules are different in the animal kingdom. Fam, you're underestimating. Yo, he's not just gonna stand there against... He's smart, fam. He's one of us, bro. Okay. You don't think gorillas get scared? No.

No. Bro, let me talk to you. Look who's gorillas fighting. A gorilla fights a bigger gorilla. Gavin, let me talk to you real quick. Bro. Gorillas and animals don't see size like how we do. What do you mean? They don't see threats how we see threats. Yeah. When we see something big, we get scared, right? Yeah, yeah. Gorillas stand off of presence. That's why they do this shit. Yeah.

That's why they do this shit. That's why they don't look you in the eye because if you look you in the eye, that's the one that's in charge. Yeah, yeah. Right? So, if you assert your dominance, hit him in the nose like a good time. He's gonna, he's like Bowser fast guys. He's gonna hit this one. No, he's not.

not bro who do you think you are fam this is not planet 8 okay now you're trolling I know you're trolling no because you're laughing you don't laugh during debates I know you during debates you would be way more serious do you think there's another debate this is a new one this one's going viral now yeah yeah do you think your friend group could take a single chimpanzee a

I was like, no, no, I'm not going to lie, no. Our friend group and our core 20. I feel like it will take out half. I'm not going to lie. Our core 20. I'm not going to lie. The chimpanzee fam. We know weapons. Yeah, we might get. We have a lot. We don't have warriors. I know, that's a thing. Once the main guy is out, once our best soldier gets caged, then it's wraps. Even if they throw me first.

You guys are gonna see how bad I get fucked up by the chimpanzee. And it's just not gonna be good for morale. I feel like in anything too, let's say it's a race. Let's say it's like a challenge or whatever. Including this gorilla challenge.

It all is determined by the first person. It does. Yep. And the momentum behind it. It's like the first shot in basketball. If it goes in, you're like, oh, you're feeling nice. But if you see this guy fucking limbs tore off by this, oh, nah. Who's next? Now everybody in our friend group is looking at who's going next. See? I'm telling you, bro. Men don't know. Okay, fuck the gorilla. Yeah. Do you think you can beat Captain America? Captain America? Do you think who's more dangerous, Captain America or the gorilla? Captain America, fam. Yes.

I feel like we could say Captain America Captain America bro what wait what wait like like we get to choose like I get to send like John Jones I see no way let me let me oh I'm talking shit now I'm looking I'm looking talking shit now I think he did that in a movie already he like he like he killed a bunch of people yeah yeah yeah cause he has a shield I'm just talking I'm just talking

also you know in sinners you know the vultures that were flying did you see cause I bagged it too cause the only time they flew was during the times that people were gonna die so during the jukebox I was like oh shit there's a bunch of birds flying around the jukebox that's usually an omen it's an omen for death and I was like regardless if the vampires came the clan was gonna come in the morning so it's like people were gonna die regardless

You know what I mean? So it's like they had so much shit coming for them. Damn. Do you think...

Oh, this is crazy. Theory? Do you think... Because Quentin Tarantino made a movie, Inglourious Bastards. And it's about... It's pretty much how World War II was, but he did a flip on it where they ended up killing Hitler. So it was like a twist, right? What if this movie, Ryan Coogler, did a twist where it's based on a true story of the KKK shooting up a facility like that or an event space like that, but they did the flip on it and...

It was actually the vampires. And then at the end, obviously what happened. Yeah, yeah. They got shot up. That would be kind of interesting. Yeah.

If he had that in mind, like, based on a true jukebox joint that actually was, you know, ravaged. Because that's the same thing that happened in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, too. With the, I forgot, the Charlie Manson murders. Okay, yeah. The Manson family murders. He, like, just recreated that whole shit? He recreated it. And then because in history we know what happens and Sharon Stone dies. Or, sorry, not Sharon Stone. I forgot her name. But Sharon Tate, I think? Yeah. Yeah.

but the the Hollywood like actress she dies and we know that in history he did a flip on it that she survived and somebody saved the day is that um isn't that kind of like very controversial because it's like saying you're changing history yeah it's like what is fiction I guess yeah but it's like that I was like what if and now the family sees that like I don't think it's disrespectful though is it really I don't

I don't know. Because she survived. She didn't. Yeah, because if you died a tragic death, wouldn't you want the real story to be out? No plot twist. But the real story's been out. I guess. A lot. And it's already talked about a lot. Yeah. How long do you think after it's okay to make fiction about something that really happened? Holy fuck.

It's got to be like 10 years plus. I'm not going to lie. You can't do it right after. Because the Jeffrey Dahmer stuff, I even felt like, this is so real. What am I watching? You know what I mean? And it came out a long time after. You have a good point. You think it would be disrespectful if you just did a flip on something that actually happened? Yes. And it was right away? Holy, I would be pissed. How long do you think it is until we get a 9-1-1 remix? 9-1-1? What's 9-1-1? Yeah, like the... Oh, oh, oh, never mind.

Or is that too tragic? You can't even joke about that. There's some shit, man, that you can't joke. You can't, right? Because that's a bunch of families. No, I don't know because they made the Jeffrey Dahmer shit and that was so tragic. But that was kind of depicting really what happened. I'm talking about like a complete twist on it. Oh, no, that's too tragic.

That one's way too trash. I don't think you can even joke about that. There's literally a whole friggin' thing. Yeah, I don't even think you can do that. The guy jumped into the hole. Yeah. And like, yo, there was blood now in the pond. And I'm like, what are you, like, you don't do that, fam. Yeah. Like, you're respectful still. Yeah, there's some stuff. There's some stuff.

And I think they already done it in historic moments with Julius Caesar and William Shakespeare and stuff. I'm pretty sure William Shakespeare did exactly that. He would take stories from super, super long ago and put twists to them. Like Julius Caesar. Okay, maybe.

I think the Julius Caesar one was kind of closer to history. Yeah, maybe that's why it's... Maybe back then it was... But obviously he didn't have the internet back then. So he could actually do that. So now, fam, remember when all these documentaries came out, but it's like real life and they were trying to depict it in movies? People are obviously going to talk. But back then, he was free to do whatever he wanted. Do you think there was more entertainers back then or now? Now, for sure. But... Like real entertainers though. You get what I'm saying here? Good question.

Or is it just is it just we see more? Oh, you know Yeah, low-key right. I actually don't know. I don't know either. I see that wasn't part of that era, bro I anyway side note. Yeah. Yeah. Um, look at this video of Diddy So this is video of Diddy on his birthday post on his birthday, right I saw this recently like what the fuck he still look look look What is this?

What is that supposed to mean? That can't be real. What is that supposed to... No, don't. No, no. He posted that. And he's saying happy birthday. And somebody's screaming as if they're getting in their... Yo, okay. You know? That's very... People know that he's known for that now. On his birthday too. Yeah. No, he definitely did that. This was before he got locked up though.

Oh, before he got locked up? Yeah, and I don't think he's out. Okay, never mind. Then, yo, that was real then. If that was after, I was like, oh, he's doing Takashi way and he's trolling the internet. But like before? That's crazy. I heard something really, really like scary. And it was pretty much why people are really into the dark stuff like that, like pain.

pain and all of those things yeah it's like it's trauma from your from your past no like it could be it could be that that's that's one case but there is this one video i was watching they're explaining it especially like the the rich and powerful people the reason they dive into those deep deep like really really taboo things yeah yeah is because they get pleasure out of taking and stealing innocence wow

Wow, that's fucking dark. Yeah, they get pleasure because it's taking more. Because these people are greedy. These people are, you know, capitalist. Take a lot of something. So to take the most out of somebody ever is taking their innocence. That's so fucked up. Something that they can't get back.

oh my gosh yeah cause they've seen all the money they have in the world at that point monetary shit doesn't mean nothing to them so it's like that is the next thing and that's literally playing like that's

The devil, fam. And I think that's what Diddy was doing, where he would swindle people into positions of, you're going to choose this because I want you to do this, and then that's my power move on you, taking your innocence away. Yeah, we can give you fame, fortune, whatever. That's nothing to me. But what I get out of it is I can take your innocence, and I can say, you see that person that's super rich and famous? Yeah.

You know what I mean? I did that. That's a combination of so many sins, fam. It's like greed, lust, fucking, yeah, that's everything still. And you start to think, do you almost wonder if they did it spiritually too, not just... Oh, how? Like...

I mean, when you take an innocence, isn't that spiritually? Because you're kind of taking their soul, right? Do you think they're almost possessed to do these things? Or do you think they just do it in their head? No, no. I think they're possessed. Because once you get up to that thing, there's definitely voices talking in their ears saying, this is not enough. Because that's not human, right? To do that type of stuff. But maybe that's what it is. When you reach a crazy level of, I guess, pleasure and indulgence and shit, what ends up happening is these things that you, I guess...

inject into your lifestyle changes the way you live and changes your spirit yeah and what happens is that's why you're in that dark mind space because all of these things are the influence now

Instead of the world being your influence and you see the good and the bad because you've injected so much terrible things. That's all you can see. All you can see. Yeah. And there's a pattern, too. It's like there was a trend going around. It's like, oh, once I become rich and famous, I'm going to do this and like do something that's really fucked up. It's like why? Whenever these celebrities get up, it's always a pattern of, oh, right after this news allegations. This person was famous. Allegations.

I mean, why is it always like that? The patterns don't lie. I think the allegation stuff and people finding out about terrible things happening, one being they actually did it, but two also, that's somebody else's power move that they're putting to play. It's like, oh, you don't want to take my deal on this? All right, watch tomorrow. Check the magazine tomorrow type thing. Because it could work like that. They straight up have...

marketing hitmen and marketing assassins to take you out in real time fam like they'll create some shit to make you look crazy that's scary stuff and maybe that's what happens I don't know but he's kind of doing it himself no you don't know that though kind of doing that shit himself I don't know because maybe he's literally getting forced through that what if one day he just like comes on camera all of that was AI I mean yeah we can still listen to graduation like all of that shit was AI

Oh, my God. No, but I'm saying, like, Kim Kardashian's PR, too, back then when she was trying to get up. Yo, she was very... Like, people discredit her for the shit that she did. But, like, she's really smart. Like, back then, she would say that, oh, I'm going to meet, like, Britney Spears at this dinner. But then, oh, all the paparazzis waiting outside her hotel. Fam, I've seen her manager. She's like... The manager's like, yo, she didn't even know Britney at the time. She just walked out and pretended. But she was in all the paparazzi's cameras. Mm.

I'm like, yo, that's fucking smart, bro. These Hollywood people, they know how to put their name out there. Yeah, they're smart. It's just that they do have to do certain things to get them to that level. Yeah.

I heard this theory from a friend. Okay. And this is a pretty good theory. So think about every single entrepreneur movie ever, right? Is there one that there was never like them taking advantage of somebody snaking them? Did that ever exist in an entrepreneur movie? I don't think so. There's a theory for it.

I don't think so. Think about it. Facebook, what happened with Facebook? He stole the guy's idea, blah, blah, blah. Wolf of Wall Street, what happened? I was just going to say that. Same shit. Probably the biggest entrepreneur movie. What do you do? Obviously illegal stuff, stealing, this and that. Now, the theory goes that there's no good entrepreneur movie where it's a clean, I guess, clean, good path to success because they don't want to make that movie. Why?

Why? Reason being, if it's promoted so much that you don't have to do terrible things, it's not hard, there's no hard times, more people would want to be successful and more people would be different.

And the world would be a completely different place if there's more entrepreneurs. Word. Because there would be too much. It's like the influencer thing. There would be no lower class to hold the system up. So they make those on purpose? So they make it on purpose to be, I guess, terrible, bad in the eye. Yeah. So that you think to be an entrepreneur, you have to do these bad things. You have to be a dickhead, fam. That and...

it turns people off from that lifestyle. Yeah, Wolf of Wall Street, I was like, I can't do this. Like, there's no way I get myself involved in that, you know what I mean? But it's like, oh, that's just true. And that's just the way to control people being more entrepreneurial. That's just an easy theory. It's like, it's not really that deep. I know, but at the same time, it's like, obviously, I never would have realized that. Like,

You can name a bunch of entrepreneurial movies, probably, I mean, zero with actually nice guys doing nice things. Yeah, it's very rare. I don't even think I can name one, really. But I feel like that creates a stereotype then. Because it's like, you know, the finance bro stereotypes where it's like, you got to be a dickhead always on your phone, not paying attention to your girl, wearing Patagonia, being a dickhead, right? I don't even think they're like that. See, but I...

But from the movies and shit, I feel like there is, though. Because you've been brainwashed. Yeah, fuck. We're part of the problem still. Yo, I saw this video. Yeah, yeah. Look, there's this guy in Japan. Okay. In Tokyo. Yeah. So remember we talked about before the Jeffrey Epstein-like symbols? The swirls?

We did? You don't remember this? No, I don't. The swirls. Yeah. So there's secret symbols that they, you know, those Epstein type of people. On the castle thing? Everywhere. Everywhere. So it's like a swirl that goes inward. And then there's another one. It's a swirl that goes outward. Yeah. And it depicts a certain symbol. But the meaning of it either means like young girls or young boys. Oh, yeah. I remember this now. Right? This guy walking in Japan.

He sees a building with these signs and the building looks really, really suspicious. Come to find out the building he's looking at. Look, look. You see the symbol there? And then I think on the other side as well. Look, see? Oh. Yeah, yeah. So these symbols, they're attached to, you know, the Epstein stuff. I'm not going to say the word, but. Yeah, yeah. So it's an adult entertainment club. Why is there two doors? It's an adult entertainment club and it has those symbols. The boy and the girl. Like the young. Oh.

Symbol, right? Yo. And check this out too. This is where it gets even darker. Because look what's behind him. Look. Look what's behind him. It's a police station. Oh. So wait. So is it like a trap to get mans? The police might be in on it. Yeah. That's a great trap. I'm not going to lie. Or it could be a trap to, you know, catch the bad people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who knows what it could be? Yeah.

The other one is very, very dark where it's like maybe the kids that are lost, they go to the police station and they're like, oh, come here. Okay, maybe, yeah. No, and then they bring them to the club. Oh, fuck. You don't know what's going on. No, I think that is for sure a trap. You think it's a trap to catch people?

people rather than to yes lower kids yes because it's what if it's just like it's literally in front so it's like anybody that's gonna go into the little boys or little girls you would obviously like wait that's that's kind of sus but it's a secret symbol so not people don't really know it unless you're but do you think i mean police were tapped into the vitality things you don't think that they would know it true would know everything that's going on in the area unless they're paid off them you don't know that is true i

I don't know. There's a lot of spas though that do that. That just line people that they all I'm going to give you a special ending and stuff like that. And then right after like they get jumped by a bunch of people.

Japanese anime could be weird sometimes bro. You know what a loli is? No. You don't know what a loli is? I don't watch anime like that. So in anime there's like a it's archetype of a character in anime where it's like a little girl and then usually depicted to do like certain things right and that's what they call like a loli. So people that watch that type of anime they might be like into that type of stuff and it's very popular in Japan obviously. Yeah. So it's

If that's a target audience, I wouldn't be surprised if there's like underground rings that do this type of stuff because there's a need for it, I guess, which is fucked up. Damn. Crazy dark world out there, fam. There's a trend going around, like, you know the furries? So there would be a slide of a furry and then the next slide would just be a bat, right? And everyone in the comments were like, wait, no, this can't be real.

So there's a bunch of people just posting random furry pics and just like baddie pictures of girls. And everyone's like, no, this is what's under the furry costumes, fam. There's no way. I mean, you never know. Yeah, you never know. You never know. It's just something you're into. Yeah, but that's why it's just like a super funny trend, bro. You think...

Like if you Do you think you could You could fall in love with a furry? Huh? I would accept anybody really I could but it would be It would be like Obviously unusual Okay let's say you Let's say you walk into A girl's house for the first time Yeah and like On her bed No no like You accidentally find A furry costume in her closet Yeah Is that a turn off or a turn on? Or is it just like Whatever to you? It can't be whatever There's no way it's whatever No I would have to ask There's no

- No, whatever, that's crazy. - No, I would have to ask. I was gonna lie and say it's whatever, but it's not whatever. - It's not whatever. - I would have to ask and like, obviously I'll ask and like, try to understand, but like, fuck, you can't just hide that from your whole life. - It's kind of weird. - It is, yeah. No, it's just out the ordinary. Maybe you're just a cosplayer. - Yeah. - I mean, so I gotta ask. - Maybe you just like Neopets or like Animal Jam, you know what I mean? It's whatever, it's cool. - You like playing around with toys, like why can't you ask for toys? - I don't do that right now. - Yes, you do, bro. - I don't do that right now. - You were trying to watch rap. Yo guys, I went in his room, fam, all this,

I didn't even do that. Yes, you did. I didn't even do that. Rap 3 coming out soon. But do you think you could be cool with it? I think it's whatever. Yeah. It's not whatever, but we would have to come to an understanding. What's an understanding? I don't know, man. Like, what is this? Like, tell me about this life so I can understand it, bro. What's like the line for you? Huh? What if she's like, you have to dress up too? No, I'm not doing that. That's not me.

That's not me. I obviously respect the craft. I respect the craft, but that's just not me, bro. Like some people cosplay. I don't cosplay, fam. That's not me. Hot take though. Do you think the people that wear costumes are the realest because they show them true selves? That's not true. They're trying to dress up as something else. No, but what if they're not afraid to do that? You get what I'm saying? Some people go outside, dress up as a person who they're not to be somebody else. But they dress up as who they want to be. That's true, yeah. Right? Who knows? Who knows? It's like a...

I like W Theory. What do you think though? What? That they're the realist? I mean, they're very confident for even going out there looking like that. I probably couldn't do that. So I give it respect. Hmm.

You know what I mean? I think... Have you ever cosplayed? Yeah. Like a sick cosplay? Yeah, yeah. Not like a Nartom cosplay. Not no paint, makeup. You know what I mean? No, I wore like... The full thing. Yeah, I wore the full thing. I wore like a... I wore a Anbu Black Ops Shinobi costume. Okay, okay. I had like the sword and stuff. I had like the... You know, the...

How do you feel in public when people, like you're obviously rolling around with the men that are obviously still cosplaying. So it's like, what did you think in the general public? When you were in like the main area. Oh, when I was in public and still in my costume? Yeah, not the main area where everybody was thing, but like, what do you think? Were you thinking of the stairs? Nah, I actually don't care. So you felt, you think you felt more confident because it's like, damn, I'm really doing this. Like even in normal clothes, I would, I feel regular. But why does clothes have to make you less or not confident?

I don't know. It's because it's like, it's different. It's like, if you see someone out there with a different type of, you know what I mean? But why does somebody else looking at you make you less or more confident? Because I would say, if you're at a level, let's say you're a star or celebrity, you're

More people are going to look at you regardless. If you're wearing a costume, people are going to look at you. So isn't that just like what determines your confidence there? Isn't it just regular? I don't know. I don't know. Isn't it the same thing? Like if people look at you, people look at you.

But I'm just saying like what were you thinking? I don't think I care. I don't know. That's good then. Yeah. That shows confidence. What would you think? Like if you I guess I would dress something like I wouldn't want to wear. Like let's say I wore like a maid outfit. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I feel like not in my scale. Like what am I doing? Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like I would think of the stairs.

So bag this and I'll have your theory. This is what I was crafting actually. So do you think the people that are still insecure and feel less confident when they're dressed up is because they're dressed up not for themselves and they're dressed up for other people to look at? Bag that. Because when you dress up for yourself, you don't care what everybody else says. So it doesn't affect you.

But when you dress up to look a certain way, you become more anxious, especially when you put on a certain fit. Because you put on that fit for people to look at you. Doesn't that make you more anxious? Yeah, and that's not really... Because you didn't wear it for you. You wore it to look cool at other people. That's facts. That's what I was trying to get at this whole thing. Okay, yeah. You know what I mean? You were crafted, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Interesting, interesting shit. Yeah, interesting stuff. Alright.

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