EP.240 - PARANORMAL BELL WITCH CAVE EXPLORATION, ELON MUSK STARSHIP EXPLODING THEORY, & DARK WEB SHOE MARKETPLACE STORY
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All right, bro. Yeah. So in about what? Like a week? Maybe less than a week. Yeah. We're going to Nashville, Tennessee. Nashville, man. Do you know what we're doing yet? I low-key don't think you know yet. What? You don't know what Andre set up for us? Oh, like the thing at the end, right? Yeah.

Because all I know right now is that we're going to do, like, obviously Nashville's for partying. But, like, one day is going to be for content. So, we're going to... No, no, no. We're going to... Yeah. Yeah. One day is for content. Yeah, yeah. So, we're going to party, but, like, we're going to do a haunted exploration. But did you bag where we're going yet? No. You didn't look into it, huh? No, I haven't. Because I just looked into it recently. Yeah? It's actually crazy. Fuck. So, let me just ask you a question. Yeah. Why?

Would you enter a haunted cave that you have to sign a waiver to enter, fam? No. That's where we're going. The Bell Witch Cave. No way. That's what we're doing, like, literally next weekend. Wait, but time out. Wait, wait. Sign a waiver for what? Okay, so there's a lot of stories on what happened with it. It's a very popular cave that paranormal investigators go to because...

a lot of things happen to almost everybody that goes. Now, the lore and the backstory to the cave is there was a witch called the Bell Witch. Now, there was this family and they lived in a house, right? A man named John Bell.

Living with his family. They were experiencing so many different paranormal things happening in their house. Now, one of the things was they would hear voices of family members that weren't there as if the spirit would mimic them.

And call them over. Now, the wife, John Bell's wife, she would experience her hair being pulled in the hallway of the house. The kids saw stuff too. But one of the craziest parts was John Bell himself died. From what? Yo, I'm about to say. Tennessee, literally, the state of Tennessee, stated his death as due to paranormal activity.

What? Due to the paranormal, fam. That's how he died. Then why the fuck are we going in this cave, fam? So what ended up happening, they looked into the story of it. John Bell, he actually had a disagreement with a neighbor nearby their house. And it was with this witch named...

What they didn't know was a witch until the spirit spoke out and told them the name of who they are. Her name was Kate Batts. So Kate Batts was... She was a witch that obviously dove into all of the cult and she could do so many different things, right? She passed away. And because of her disagreement and I guess the situation with the neighbor, she haunted that family. Now, after they say she fled to this...

this cave it's called the bell witch cave now now people that go and investigate it still to this day there's a lot of people that do it but there's certain things you can't do so one of the one of the things you can't do is you're not allowed to take a stone as a souvenir oh yeah i wouldn't even want to take nothing so if you go there and take a stone yeah people have been reported falling ill and falling sick for no reason they don't understand why

Until they give the stone back. It's almost like the duende in the Philippines. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you have to return. You have to give back the favor. For it to be on good terms. Yeah, be on good terms with it. Now, one of the other things is just like how the spirit was mimicking voices in the house, if you're in the cave, you might hear people call your name and the voices, your mother, father, or any family member, or even friends. Oh my God.

Oh my gosh. So if we're in the cave together and you hear me call your name, if you don't see my lips moving, it could be a spirit. Oh my goodness. Man, we're doing this though. Like we're actually going to do this. Also, we're going to the house. Huh? Yeah. So we're going to do the cave and then we're going to do the house too. Wait, but it's with a guide, right? Yeah, but it's just a private. It's like one guide and then us. Okay, boom. Okay, that's fine.

But obviously, if it was just like me, you, Andre, RJ or something, I'd be fucking scared because we don't know the precautions. But it's like, if there's a guy there and it's a private thing, I'm down to do it. I'm down to do it. So we're going to try. Yeah. We're going to try a few of the things that they say not to do. Wait, no, no.

No, no, no, no. No, no, no. We're not doing that. All right, fine, fine, fine, fine. Yeah, yeah. We're not doing that. So the first one's the rock curse that I explained. So visitors who take rocks from the cave report sudden illness or death in the family, financial ruin. Why would we do that? Car accidents or hundreds... Oh, sorry.

And hundreds of rocks have been mailed back with apology letters from people that took, like, souvenirs and rocks from the cave. Oh, my gosh. Some say the witch—some say they saw the witch in their dreams. Some say they saw the witch in their dreams when they took the rock. Oh, my gosh, fam. And then they stopped dreaming about the witch when the rock was returned. Yeah. Crazy. Okay. Now, you can hear the voice, like I said, the mimic. Mm-hmm.

And one of the people that tried it, they exited the cave and they had scratches on their back. Oh, my gosh. Like, just red marks on their back. Why? See, now, the more you talk about it, it's like the more I do it, the less I want to do it. Like, you know what I mean?

Yo, what if you have an op and like you like hate them right? But you're like yo just come and escape with me and then like you get the rock and you put it in his bag. That's worse than like killing somebody low-key because that's like a slow death, fam. It's a constant curse, fam. That's like a, yeah, that's worse. That should be your anime, honestly. That should be your actual anime, fam. Wait, so did you confirm that already? Like are you down? Yeah, we're doing it. Oh, 100%. You're scared? Yeah, I'm scared. Yeah, well obviously what the fuck I'm scared.

I was scared of Queen Mary, but at least we have a guide. But I feel like at Queen Mary, we didn't have a guide. That's why I was low-key kind of more scared. But we're bringing all the EMP readers or whatever. Oh, yeah. We have to bring all of that shit. We're going to do all of that. We're going to look through fam. We're going to ask the... Show yourself. Yeah. So that's going to be the first ever Jumpers video? Yeah. Like ours? Yeah, like a documentary. We'll see. Depending on how it goes and how you want it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But that video is going to be made. Whatever channel it drops on. There's some dark magic happening with the Indiana Pacers. You know that theory? No, I don't. Oh, you don't?

With Halliburton? No, no, just the whole team. The whole team? Yeah, so I didn't know if you knew the whole playoffs, right? Indiana is a small market team, and everybody thinks that they're not supposed to go that far, right? But you see Halliburton, he made three game winners whenever he has the ball. And now the trend is that the Indiana Pacers are doing dark magic to get them this far, right?

And I don't know if you've seen the Pascal Siakam video. No. In the huddle. So, yo, I'll give the whole setup. So Oklahoma City was, they're up 3-2. So the Indiana Pacers have to win this game six. Crucial, right? So there's a video of all these guys huddled around. And Siakam does this. I'll show you the video. What does he do? What does he do? Look what he does. This is supposed to be dark magic.

Yo, bro. Why did his eyes roll back, fam? Look, in the huddle, fam. Wait, that's kind of crazy, though. And they won that game. Chinese MVP. And they won that game. Yeah. And they won that game.

yo it's mine i wouldn't be surprised if teams are doing that though like realistically if you're if you're a sports team and there's millions and millions of dollars on the line for your franchise and you could really win some shit i'm sure yeah because like we heard before there's teams that will consult spiritual like mediums exactly or even people that can do like certain uh fortune telling telling them what they should do on certain days yeah dog this shit is real

You know what I heard? The difference between millionaires and billionaires, you know what it is? What? They have like a thing helping them? Yeah. Billionaires consult spiritual advice. It's crazy. Yeah. Almost like, I'm pretty sure like a good percentage of billionaires. I forgot where it was like studied. But they claimed that they consulted a spiritual guide. Oh my God. LeBron James.

done it before yeah there's a video of him on his come up in a documentary in a video where he went and consulted a spiritual leader holy shit because if you think about it the spiritual realm can control everything else that we can't see right and the best way to do it is through god obviously yeah but you know when you're dealing with sketchier things and the industry and where it's darker uh-huh

You never know what type of like spirits they're dealing with. It could be the worst. Because I was at the casino too, right? And I was trolling Hayden, right? So it was, we were on roulette. Usually I don't play roulette because I know that's just bullshit. So like it was black, black, black, black, right? Yeah. But every time I rolled, I was like, yo, Hayden, look at me. And then I did this thing to troll. Oh my gosh, bro. And yo, I swear to you, it hit five times black. Oh my God, bro.

So he's probably thinking in his head, what is this guy doing? First off. He's like, don't touch. No, I looked at him and I was like, yo, I didn't look. Dog, that's what's wrong, bro. No, no, the troll, the troll. Obviously, I didn't get it, didn't hit because it's... What if you're actually like getting some shit, though? That's what's fun. Because there's 100% demons in that casino, bro. I was like, I was like, Pascal Siakam method. Why did he do that, fam, in the huddle, bro? But bro, I'm telling you, yo, in casino...

casinos, nightclubs, these places, even concerts, you can sense there's an energy of something else there. And that's where people claim where the dark spirits and entities look for their prey. It's because they're finding people of low vibration in a setting of low vibration. And then that's when you can take someone, right? Like you don't go to church and try to possess someone if you were a demon. You would try to go somewhere where you know they're at their lowest.

You go to a nightclub, a lot of people there, they're looking for something because they're hurt or broken somewhere else.

That's where they get them. Yeah, that's why because we recently I recently had to pick up a friend It was like he was near a gravesite because there's also a church there So like even he knew he was like yo Gav like let's go to Tim Hortons real quick I'm like why he's like yo, we can't go home right away. We were just at a gravesite. I'm like, oh, yeah smart Yeah, do the Puk Puk. Yeah, but he's he's Vietnamese. So like I'm like, oh they do that too Like I feel like that's just a thing to do though

I'm probably in Asia. Yo, I can't wait for that. I'm not going to lie. Because, yo, partying? I'm not going to lie. I've been outside, but it's like, I want to see you all hyped up Nashville like it is. So I'm like, okay, let's really see how it goes. You know why I want to? It's because I think I watched so much content from it before, and then I was actually doing it with my parents. What type of content? Like, the party shit. Oh, oh.

Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I was there with my parents, going on a family vacation compared to going with your friends is so different. It's different. Because I feel like when you're with your parents, you don't want to go wild and shit. You're not trying to look crazy. Have you ever drugged in front of your parents? No. Yeah. Oh, you have? But have you ever hit on a girl in front of your parents? No. No. I feel like I would be weirded out still.

Why? You did that? I was going, like, nah. It was hidden. It was hidden. It was hidden. Yeah, yeah. Because you feel weird, no? Yeah. I wouldn't just, like, do it in front of anybody, right? Like, I feel like...

I mean... When you're in front of your friends, it's different. But, like, your relatives? I guess you just have to be different. You just have to be as confident as you can. Yeah, because at the same time, I feel like it's a lose-lose. Because it's like, if you do it, they're still going to make fun of you. If you do it and, like, you get rejected, they're going to make fun of you. But what if it's, like, possibly the love of your life? Okay, that's totally different, though. What if it's possibly the love of your life and you just have to shoot? Will you shoot in front of your parents? Oh, yeah. There's nothing... I don't think my parents can stop me. Because it's like, at the end of the day, they're meeting her...

Later on. So I was like, fuck, who cares? You know what John told me recently? Why, why, why? So he told me he thinks that arranged marriages are low-key the best thing that ever existed. Arranged marriages? Yeah.

And he said that. And I'm like... Obviously, I'm in my head. I'm like, that's wild. Why would you say that? I'm like, there's no way. But it does work sometimes. But he broke it down. Okay, okay. How does he break it down? Because in my head, I didn't understand what it meant. So what it really means is... It's not like... Oh...

this is that person's person, this is that person's person, and we're forcing them to marry. It's not like that. Okay, okay. Wait, it's actual matchmaking, right? It's just matchmaking. Yeah, like, no, no, like, I'm telling, like, salaries, like, full details. Like, you get the description, hair, what does she look like? So it's, like, perfect already? Kinda. Kinda. Yeah, yeah. I thought it was just random. I thought it was, I'm not gonna lie.

No, what it is, it's as if, let's say I have a son and then you have a daughter. Because we're friends, I'll be like, how is your daughter doing? Let me see, does she have a good job? How's her education doing? I trust you as a friend that you raised her really well. You trust me as a friend that I raised my son really well. And then you just force them together. And then, did you bag? That's how they used to do it with kingdoms and shit.

So like in the UK, Ireland, way, way back, like all of these different countries, fam. The reason they have kings and queens and there's alliances in the world was because like, let's say Denmark's daughter married Ireland's son. And then now it's allegiance, it's alliance. Really? Because they keep the blood in the family. Yeah. Okay, then who would you... I was going to say... Who would I like...

Who would you interlink with? Say like, oh, you raised them right. You know what I mean? Yo, I would be like, yo, if my daughter was like, and LeBron's son, fam, let's do it. I know LeBron raised his sons right. Yeah, obviously would too. Exactly. But you have to kind of know them, right? You kind of have to know them. It wouldn't work for us, but it wouldn't work for a stranger. True. What's that, there's a, I don't know if it's a religion, where it's like, you're allowed to have many wives,

or or you're allowed to have i think it's just called harem oh harem but like i'm pretty i'm pretty sure like muslims can do that okay muslims yeah yeah because i was gonna say like oh that's a that's kind of crazy because i remember the the drake uh music video he had a bunch of wives in him that was like the whole point of like the shoot there's people in the world that have like hella why i'm pretty sure in like saudi arabia yeah that's too much work for me fam

Like, imagine trying to manage 12. Like, I can't even manage one, bro. Do you think people get, like, excited off of that shit? Because I think Nick Cannon does because he has so much kids. Nick Cannon. He probably has, like, a Genghis Khan complex where he just wants to populate. What's that whole shit about again? He just has hella baby mamas or hella kids? Hella kids and hella baby mamas. Oh.

that's same with future too but i think future is a different case yeah future's just out of there i feel like that's his the way of thinking oh do you think this okay like if you if you set out to be some type of person on media do you think you're gonna end up that way like say how future is like futurelations it's like like uh oh play this girl play this girl but really deep down like he doesn't believe that shit fam yo like you know what maybe yeah but i think it's

I think it's truly him. I think it's truly him just the way he kind of moves and I can see it. But we won't know for sure because it could just be like a... But to have a kid, to have that many kids, he's not faking it. To have that many kids, he's not faking it. But we always talk about how we can manipulate the brain to think we're different. So that's why I'm asking it because it's like, what if we actually just manipulate... Say I tell myself every day, I'm smart, I'm smart, I'm smart.

my brain like oh this kid is smart and randomly I just I don't think that's how smart works though no no okay smart but like uh let's do like like confidence yeah confidence I'm confident I don't think smart can work like that I'm smart I'm smart I know there's kids out here like studying for the exams and shit like I'm smart like yo like just pick up the book yeah yeah pick up the book I'm smart I'm smart

But with other shit, I feel like it would work. Because that's why mantras exist. What's that? So a mantra is something you keep saying in your head. Yeah. Like...

Lightning McQueen. He says, Lightning McQueen. Oh, Lightning McQueen. Yeah, he goes, speed on speed. Oh, okay, okay. And then Sugar Sean, um, no, no, no, what's his name? Sugar, no, fuck. What's his name? Fuck. You know what I'm talking about. Sugar Sean. Sugar Sean. Weatherspoon, right? Yeah, I think that's his name. Ah, fuck. Sean Weatherspoon. No, no, no, that's round two. No.

- No, you know what I'm talking about. - Yeah, sugar shot O'Malley. - O'Malley, shot O'Malley. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So he says, every time he walks toward the ring, he says, "I'm too fast, I'm too strong, I'm too whatever." - Really? - Yeah, yeah. And then that's his mantra to go in. Because what happens is you're so fricking nervous with the adrenaline pumping through your brain that you can't focus on anything else.

You have to tell yourself what to focus on. Okay. That's like when... Because I seen your camera. And I remember picked it up and Mick was like, have fun, have thing. Or like, have fun, be free or something. It says something on your camera. It says... Have fun. I think it says have fun. Or... It says don't try, just be. Don't try, just be. That's a mantra. That's considered a mantra, right? Don't try, just be. Yeah. Okay, okay. Because when you try to do something, it shows you try. If you just be...

It is. Yeah, yeah. Right? Fuck. Did you see Victor Ramanyama? He's doing the monk shit too. He cut off all his hair. For what though? I don't know. Because maybe he's trying to focus like spiritually. Wait, who is this? Remember the seven foot guy? No, I actually don't know who this is. Yeah, like recently everyone's like, oh, he's on his monk shit because like he cut off his hair. But like, I don't know. What's interesting is like monks cut off their hair, but other people for spirituality, they grow their hair out.

So which one's right? Oh, because it holds power. You're right. But which one's right, though? You're right. Because monks shave their head. Yeah. But other people, like Native Americans, they'll grow their hair really long to have more speed. And I'm pretty sure Rastafarians, fam, they grow their hair. No, no, it's supposed to be like that. It's like to the floor. Mm-hmm. Yeah, yeah. So which one do you think is it? I'm not going to lie. When I had a lot of hair...

and you told me that, I feel like, yo, I was hella confident you're like that. Oh no, I get it now. Because it's like, you know how people like, they kind of like idolize their hair? I heard this before. I heard this before. They give it meaning? Meaning, yeah. Give it identity. That's what it is. But when a man gets a buzz, it's supposedly freeing.

Right? So maybe it's like, oh, monks just want to be, they don't want to idolize anything but like the spirit. You know what I mean? Oh, that's true. But like Rastafarians, they like the hair because maybe it means something to them. Because that's their identity. Yeah. So what they do is they strip identity, strip the ego. So monks are like, oh, I'm not going to rely on anything. This is me. Oh, shit. Okay, theory. Ready? What if hair, long hair,

Hold memories holds ego. Oh, so when the monks shave their head off Yeah, they're letting go of the identity one because they look different hundred let go of that the ego. Yeah, because they look less Mm-hmm, right think about it rock stars had the biggest ego rock stars always had the longest all No, I'm telling you like I without my hair fam I would be less confident and that sucks to say because it's like I love my hair. Mmm. Yeah, I

Would you ever grow it like super long?

What of old, maybe? What was that thought? Like, yeah, like, the old Asian guy walking around like this, fam, with just hella hair? Yeah, might. I've seen some. Yo, you know in China, they actually, like, dread their hair, too? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing. Yeah, that's been a thing. Like, the transformation is wild. Like, holy shit. They actually do that. Yes, fam. China, they do so much different, like, procedures to their bodies now. Like what? Like, they could do, like, leg transformations. They can get, like, longer limbs. Yeah. But maybe it's just in general. Mm.

um there's so many different uh like body change type things you can do type surgeries now in asia specifically but that that's when it comes like that's very bad because it's like once it starts being like then nothing's fair no more because it's like say sports and you want to train your kid for a sport you're gonna get certain surgeries to make him good at that but yeah but is that is that the kid's destiny

You know what I mean? You're forced to be a basketball player. You're actually supposed to be like, I don't know, like podcaster, say like that. And you never get to do it. But do you think that kid would like say like, oh, this is not me and go back to that? Oh. But what's like the actual serendipity or like the path? Because would you say it's unnatural to choose something if you like it?

Let's say I was born to be the greatest basketball player because my dad's a great basketball player or whatever, right? But I was gravitated toward music. I feel like that's not wrong. And you shouldn't go to basketball. You should go to music. So what if your life is leaning toward that whole way, but one little part of you says one other?

Which one would you choose? I feel like the easy one is obviously go with what feels right. - But it's not easy though, because it's like, you have so much like opinions, like of you saying, oh no, you have to get into this 'cause you're good at that. But deep, I feel like the heart wants what the heart wants at the end of the day. - What if you could see every single version of you that's living right now in different timelines and different realities? - Yeah. - Would you wanna see the options that you have and then switch it? - Oh, that's a great question.

Me personally? No. Because I want to believe that this is the best version there is. Because once I start comparing, bro, I'm not going to be happy with my life now because it's like my other self is having a great time and I'm still having a great time, but it's a better time. Nah, you can't do that. Yeah, I agree too. I agree too. But I think that the idea of switching, if you think that way that you would, means you should make a change here.

I kind of get that, yeah. So it's one of those, if you're thinking about it right now, that's the sign. So do you think they send, I don't know, little messages in your life or things to throw you there? Everything, everywhere, all at once? Yeah, like type thing.

Do you think? I don't know. I don't think that happens, to be honest. Because it's like, I'm in this one, unless I know how to jump. Fuck, but gut feeling is real, though. Oh, it is. Gut feeling is so real. And then the thing with gut feeling is it's the other you later trying to tell you do it different.

Wait, that's what gut feeling is? Yeah. So the theory behind gut feeling is it's your other reality that lived through it already in the future or in a reality where you chose something else telling you, bro, don't do it. Have you ever had a moment where you made a mistake and you felt so bad about it? You're like, oh, I wish I could go back in time. I wish I could go back in time. Yeah, obviously everyone's had those. What if us giving that feeling is so strong that it hits to that moment where you get the gut feeling, bro? Fuck.

Because I'm not going to lie, like, when I do get like, oh, man, I wish I could go back in time, I'm clenching. Feels like constipation. Yeah. So what does that affect? The gut. Yeah. But maybe...

But that's true though. But I feel like with that, it's like you're supposed to make that decision even though you have that bad feeling. Because bro, it's like you're in this realm, bro. Why are you thinking so deep? It's like, oh, maybe he's got... Is that overthinking now? Because now you're thinking like, oh, maybe I have a feeling but that whole thing is just maybe you just had a bad taco that day. You know what I mean? True. You know what I mean? You never know, fam. True. That's true. Because I...

i i used to think i was a really anxious and nervous person until i stopped drinking milk okay no but maybe that maybe that fucks it up though like milk isn't like before you sleep you can't drink milk because it will affect dreams and shit like that too so yeah it's a bad thing to have before sleep which is weird because people say it is good yeah because they're like yo drink a warm glass of milk will put you to bed yeah no i stopped drinking milk hella long ago i'm

I stopped drinking milk in high school. Yeah. Because that's when I realized it was bad for me. I thought it was all placebo. Like, the muscle thing. I was like, no, I'm done drinking milk still. It's not... I don't think it's placebo. There's still, like, protein and, like, calcium and stuff. But we can get it in better ways that doesn't fuck up your gut. That doesn't fuck up, yeah. You're just fucking with my gut every day during lunchtime, bro. You had milk every day? Yeah, like, cereal, bruh. Oh, shit. What was your, like, main...

What do you eat in the morning? It's like Eggo waffles, fam. Oh, true. Very bad for you. I feel like that shit's even taking time off your life, too. Worse, bro. Worse. Everything at this point is taking time, fam. Oh, my God. Yo, guess what I ate today? What'd you eat? First thing in the morning, like, New York fries glizzy, bro. Like, I was eating that. Okay, what if...

Yo, you know what though? I've seen this one thing where they show you a tank of everything you've ate before in a day and it discourages you from eating bad. Okay, that's sick. So imagine like let's say you eat a burger and you eat like fries or whatever food that's very processed and can't decompose. So what they'll do, they'll be like, okay, tell me everything you ate. We're going to put it in this vat. Okay, okay. And you can see clearly. Yeah.

And then we're going to show you another vat that can decompose easily because there's a whole bunch of greens, a whole bunch of things in the gut that can help move it. And then this one, bro, they show it live and it just looks like it's just stuck. It's not moving anywhere. And a lot of it's processed so it just stays there for however long.

I'm pretty sure some candies that we ate in like 2004 is probably still in my gut. Like Hubba Bubba's or some shit. But at the same time, you can flush that out though. That's why there's ginger shots, turmeric shots. At the end of the day, there's shit to get it out. But it's like, it's your option to choose to do that though. It's like some people don't want to be healthy. You know what I mean? I'm so curious. Like imagine if you could, the same way we could see a vat of what we eat. Oh, like cigarettes? Yeah.

Like say like you show a person the effects of cigarettes because I know like oh, that's a huge thing Yeah, no, but the case like, you know how they like the teeth shit is on the the cover It's not really helping people because they're still buying it right? But they show you like real life like this is what's happening I feel like that would that would make me stop like if I did cigarettes. Yeah. Yeah for sure What I would want to see is a diagram of my brain on how much time I spend on certain topics and

Whoa. Like certain interests or topics or shit, I'm just like... I guess my mind is on. Word? I would be so curious. I would just be so curious. Yeah. Because I feel we don't...

We don't bag how much time we spend on certain things, right? What would your main topic be? Like, say, like, remember there's, like, a chart of the brain? What was your main... It definitely changes. I wish it was, like, a Spotify rap. Like, if my brain could be a Spotify rap, that would be so fire. Earlier in the podcast, it was definitely, like, simulation shit. It was all that theory stuff. Yeah.

I think it's still everywhere. Yeah. But I don't know. What do you think would be your brain wrapped? It might, bro. It's just, it would be like, oh, how long have you been on this topic? Average time? 10 seconds. 10 seconds of everything. And it would just be brain raw. I'm not going to lie. Just a whole bunch of different things? Yeah, a whole bunch of random. Okay, what if we put it like categories though? Like I would put one for sure. Let's say...

spirituality boom that's probably like a huge one that's probably like say like 20% at least at least and then everything else is like percentage is like 2% I don't know Spiderman Spiderman 2% okay no but I get that though it's like it's a little part you're not thinking about it a lot yeah you know how they say like oh every guy thinks about the Roman Empire yeah okay no I don't think about that you actually don't? no

I wasn't big into history back then. That's why I remember when we had our stereo talks. When we talked about the periods of midship, I wasn't even into that because I'm like, I really wasn't interested in that in school. What's your favorite subject in school? Favorite subject? Gym.

Yeah, I was athlete of the year. Like, that's all I did still. You were athlete of the year? Yeah. Oh, wow. I did everything, bro. Like, I feel like... Like the grade A grad thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I recently sprained my ankle and I'm like, yo, you know those... Okay, I thought it was way worse than what it was. So, you know when you're the only one to hear something? Yeah. So, I remember I was playing basketball, right? And we were playing for money. It was $500, right? And it was 14-13. I blow past the guy and then I kind of lean into him before I score the bucket. All I hear, fam...

I know I'm the only one who heard it. It was like... And I'm like, I sat down. And even before I just bagged, I started like crying a bit. Because I'm like, no, no. My summer's over. Like this is it. Like I haven't heard a crack like this in forever. And I know like my friends and stuff like... They've had sprained ankles. And it's way worse than what it is.

They say like a sprained ankle might be a man's like. But you just don't know. I don't know. Yeah. Did you get it checked? Yeah, I got it checked and everything was good. Oh, everything is fine. You stopped me from breaking the bone. No, yeah. Because you know why though? Yeah. No, that one's real bro. That's why when I go in that cave fam and I did it today because I went to that gravesite. I went like this fam. Wait, gravesite today? Yeah, because I picked up a friend.

And then I went to Tim Horan's. I went to the mall a bit before I came back to the house. But even when I was here, I did this just in case. Yeah. I felt better. Oh my God, fam. Yeah. Because, yo, deadass, when I'm at certain, like, when I was at my Lola's house that was near the grave in the Philippines, you can feel it almost like still lingering. I hate that feeling, fam. Like actually lingering. Almost like a scent.

But do you think that's in my head? Because I already know this shit.

Or is it actually... How much should we trust our feelings with stuff? Like, you know at nighttime when it's super dark and you feel like something's in the corner? How much should we really trust it? Or how much should we just be like, oh, that's fucking fake. Or I'm just in my head right now. Because what if it's true? Yeah, because babies, they don't have no thoughts, but they know when there's a ghost. You know what I mean? So I feel like, yeah, you can't think when it comes to that. Just real intuition. Yeah, it is. It is. How do you build intuition at that? Because I feel like...

Sometimes my intuition... I'm not gonna lie. In life, my intuition's been really wrong. And I'm trying to work on it, but it's like...

Like, I don't know how to, is it just, I just have to make more important decisions? Like, shit like that? You know what? I think the one I had my best intuition moments was when I was very, when I understood I didn't control things. When you understood you didn't control things. Okay. But it seems the opposite because it's like you having intuition is something you're trying to predict something, right? Yeah. But it's so, this is how the law of attraction works for me. Okay.

I'll give in, I'll give up what I can't control. And I'll ride the wave of what's going on and just feel how it's moving. Okay. Like your flow state, kind of? It's like riding a lazy river. Like you're not trying to like push or make a decision to go left or right, wherever, right? You just go with it. That makes sense. So when I'm going with it, it's like...

I can kind of feel what's going on. Even with my eyes closed, I can kind of feel the current. And that's when I have intuition with even things like, okay, I know this thing's going to do well because I'm actually present. I'm here. But when I think about it too much where I'm in my head, I got to make this happen. I got to make that happen.

My intuition is not on giving in. It's more of like trying to make happen. Okay. Trying to make happen. But it doesn't mean you can't work hard. Like you should be working hard.

But surrender to your work in the sense of, I know I did well. It's going to do its thing. Okay. Not like I, I did, I put so much work in. Oh shit. Did it, did it blah, blah, blah. Okay. So yeah, I think that's what I'm doing. I'm not gonna lie. Cause I'm thinking like, Oh, did I make the right decision in the, it might've been the right decision. It just looks wrong. But at the end of the day, like I don't know the path that is going to set for me. You never know though. Yeah. You don't like if, if you always go in with like, um,

What's it called? Like preconceptions of shit? Yeah, yeah. Expectations? You always go in with expectations? Yes, bro. Do you think you do? Yes, all the time. That's why I love spontaneous shit because it's like I don't have time to think of what's going to happen. And then when man's book a vacation, oh no, a month later, fuck.

Fuck, that's too much time to think. Now I'm thinking, oh, Hawaii, like, we're gonna go with this, we're gonna go with that. So do you like plot twists? I do. I love plot twists, I'm not gonna lie. What's your favorite, like, plot twist in your life? Plot twist in my life? Oh, fuck, there's so much, but I can't even say it on camera. Plot twist in my life.

Cause I always think about it like this. Like God is writing a story. Yeah. And then he's going to throw in some plot twists in there because I personally like plot twists. Oh, no, I think the biggest plot twist was the podcast fam. Oh, true. Yeah. Cause I'm like, yo, I was so set on being like an accountant and shit like that. Like it just came so naturally. Right. But like at the, at the same time I had faith, like it was going to work.

Do you think when you started, you didn't expect? I didn't expect. And why did it do well? Because I didn't expect it, bro. That's what I'm trying to say. You don't run the lazy river thing. Yeah. You got to keep flow with it. Don't expect shit.

You know what I'm saying? And then you get back on that path of, yo, everything's really turning out right. Because what I realized in the past few months of the way my life's been moving is whenever I surrender in and let go. Just do it, yeah. Yeah, and put faith in the right place. I know I'm doing the right things. Yo, it's work. It's like turning out exactly how it's supposed to.

Exactly how it's supposed to be. Fuck, that's deep, man. Yeah. I'm glad. It's blessed when you surrender because it's almost like you're going to go on a plane and then let's say you're like, oh, fuck, I'm so anxious. Fuck, I'm on the plane. Fuck, fuck, fuck. Yeah, yeah. I'm not giving you the pilot seat. You better sit there and relax. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because you're stuck here regardless. Fuck.

Facts, facts. And I feel like that's what God's trying to tell us. Okay. Yeah, yeah. That's cool. That's cool. Just sit in and relax. Sit in and relax. Yeah. I'd be expecting a lot of shit and I'm a chronic daydreamer, so that does not help, fam. Okay, I have a story for you. Okay, bet, bet, bet. I have a story for you. So, one of the craziest plot twists I heard before was there's this guy. Okay. And he decided to do a documentary. Mm-hmm.

on a murderer, a serial killer in his hometown. Okay. Little did he know that the serial killer would turn out to be his own mother then. Oh, like, wait. So he was doing a documentary. Wait, wait, what? He was doing a documentary to search for a serial killer. Oh, but it was the bomb the whole time. And investigate it. So he had ideas like, oh, it could be this person. He's going to the houses where there was blood, where the murders happened, interviewing all these different people. Yeah.

And it was leaning up toward pointing at this one really sketch guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it wasn't at all him. That super sketch guy ended up becoming the only person that actually had intel to tell him on where to actually look. Okay. So one of the things that...

That they wanted to do for the documentary was obviously get footage and of every single like news broadcast or anything going on, right? Yeah. So they went to a bar, a friend's bar, and their mother happened to be someone that was so obsessed with the case and the murder and the serial killer that she recorded every single news broadcast on a VHS tape. Okay. She just wanted every single documentation about it just because she was so interested in tape, which is already suspect.

So the guy that's doing the documentary with his friend, they take all of the tapes and they're looking through it, looking through it, blah, blah, blah. They're shooting more. They're going to the sites.

Getting all this information. Now, there's one VHS tape, though. His friend, she puts into the player, into the TV to watch. Now, what pops up at first is just like a TV show. Imagine like, you know, MASH. Okay. Late at night. Yeah, yeah. Then it cuts. Yeah. And what she sees is footage of two people disembodying.

My gosh. Body parts and, you know, doing vile, vile, foul shit to humans, right? Yeah, yeah. Trapping people, kidnapping them. My goodness. And recording it.

But one of the things she noticed was the woman in the video was wearing a mask. A what? It's like, you know one of those Victorian masks like this? Oh, yeah? You know when you go to like a masquerade party? Yeah, yeah. Wearing like a masquerade mask. Illuminati like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's one of the things she noticed. Okay. Now, the guy in the video that was part of the serial killer was actually the father. The father? Of the kid. Doing. Wait, what?

What? Doing the documentary. Oh, fuck. So both his parents, his mother and his father. And the father. And what's even crazier, the reason the case went kind of cold is because they blamed it on this one guy. Did everything with them. So there was three people involved in the crimes. It was the mother, the father, and this like other sketch guy that was their friend, right? Yeah, yeah. Now, what they claimed was the father was a police. He was actually a policeman this whole time. Oh.

Oh shit. So you have the cops on your side. So what he would do is he would pick up calls for people, you know, that are too drunk or whatever. Take them to the house. That's mad, man. Do all of the things to them. That's mad. Right? And obviously, if you're the police, any other calls are going through, they're not going to be looking for this person. You're just going to, you know. Yeah, yeah. You have control over that.

They ended up blaming the murders on the friend when shit got too hot. Okay. So, what he ended up doing was shooting a friend because it was time to, you know, it was time to let it go. Shoot himself a bit. Yeah, because it had to look like there was a fight. Oh, okay. And then blame all of the murders on that guy. Oh,

And then the mother and the father got away. Now this guy made the documentary, right? Put it out and shit won bear awards. How, how? No, but like, how did he find out though? You didn't tell me how he found out. So, oh, it's fucking sad. Yeah.

The way the guy found out was, you remember the girl that was watching on the VHS tape? Yeah. She ended up going downstairs and seeing that mask on the wall in their house, right? The mother saw her picking up on it, that she was looking at it and putting the puzzle piece together. The mother walked upstairs to where she was watching the TV and saw herself on the screen. Yeah.

So what the mother ended up doing, she goes to her library and there's a whole shelf of a whole bunch of VHS tapes of all the different people they did shit to.

And then she took all of them, put them on the table, and wrote a note. Son, this is for you. Why? Why? For your dreams, for your movie. Oh, my God. For your movie, right? Yeah. And then she, like, you know, herself, she did that to herself. And when the son came home, obviously, he came to all of the Jess tapes.

And he won like... Bear awards. Yeah, all these crazy awards. Because it's real life. You have real life like vids. Crazy. Yeah, fam. It's just sad though because at the end of it, at the end of it, it's like you won. You accomplished your dream. Yeah. But at the cost of it being about your own family and your own blood. Yeah. But like did he not want to like...

Like go upstairs or downstairs and actually look at this shit or he was just not in the loop He he's just not in the loop. He didn't because you don't you're not gonna think it's your parents man Yeah, I know but it's like around the house. They they had shit there. He wasn't living. Oh, yeah He wasn't living with them. I was gonna say yeah, it's just like in and out and shit. Yeah, damn, bro What do you what do you even do after that? Like it's it's tough because like let's say it was your dream and

And you're just going to get messed up, honestly. Because imagine you gave... It's still justice though at the end of the day because your parents did do something evil. You think if the people you love did something so evil, you had to... I feel like regardless if my family did that shit, that's still... I know it's hard, fam. That's the thing. That's exactly what I'm trying to say. I would still try to ride for them as much as I could. But there's obviously a line that you can't.

It's just morally wrong to. Damn. So he won bear awards and like, but in the cost of his family, right? Yeah. And at the end of it, you're just going to feel like, oh, fuck, at what cost? Yeah, fam. That's some shit you see on the dark web. When she wrote that note, oh, these are tapes are for you. Yeah. Oh my goodness. But if you bag it, like almost every single achievement we do, it is at a cost of something. Yeah, fam. But we don't like look at all the time. There's no receipt at the end of it that goes,

You know how when you make a recipe for, let's say, a cake and you bake the cake, you can look back at the paper you wrote down everything to make. When you look at your career or you look at something that you achieved and took so long to do, right? It's easy for us to forget the hard times because we just want to block it all out. Easy for us to forget the grind sessions, even those little obstacles like waking up and doing your laundry, right?

you don't see the receipt of everything that it took to do that all you see is the trophy yeah or whatever you get out of it that's why the man's that like automatically want to sell their shit like soul and stuff like that like they have they they have a consequence to that because they have no receipt and they just feel shit at the end it's like oh i didn't do nothing to earn this at the end of the day but like when you actually have the receipt you you feel blessed yeah i mean you ever um you

You reflect a lot. Reflect? Yeah, I have been reflecting on my life and stuff like that. But it's like, it's more of the like, I'm just trying to be more grateful. This is like, if I ever forget, then I feel like blessings will be taken away because he can take it away whenever. But yeah, I think, I feel like there's not enough movies and shit about like reflecting.

Like it's always about like, oh, let's go achieve some shit. And then we do it. Never like we look back like, why did we do it? Yeah. So going back to the other topic, because didn't we watch a movie that was very similar to that? Yeah. It was the guy in the house, right? Wait,

Remember the guy? Yo, I think I watched it with you. It was the movie where they were trying to look. It was a murder case around the family. And they were trying to look for the people. And it was happening all in that house. Remember? Yeah, yeah. It was… Is it based on that? Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. Oh, it's actually based on it? It's Locke Henry. Oh.

Oh shit, so it is based on it. That's the story. Yeah, because I'm like, the whole time I was thinking like, I've watched a movie like this. Yeah, that's what we were talking about. Oh, okay, okay. That's why I asked you. No, no, because you didn't tell me that story, but I remember watching a movie. Oh, yeah, okay, okay. No, because the whole time I was like, yo, I've seen this shit before. Where did this happen?

No, also I've seen though, like in the black market, it's trending fam. Cause I don't know if you've seen the shoe, the shoes on the dark web. Oh,

oh yeah yes yeah i've seen those it's like bloody shoes and shit but did you see the guy buy it no oh my god on tiktok yes yeah i think so yo so like every shoe in that dark web thing is a name and it's a it's an age right so the man goes oh i'm gonna try to break the theory because the whole theory on the internet is like if i buy this shoe does it come with the person

Yeah, it just came with the shoe. No, it came with something worse. What? Something that is the exact same shit that happened in your story. Wait, what the fuck? It came with a tape. Oh,

Oh, that's crazy. And you know what that tape is. What happened? Oh, that's crazy. Yes, fam. Yes. So that was like the market to buy movies. Yes. Like dark movies. Yes. But it's based on that kid. Oh, shit. You get what I'm saying now? That's wild, bro. Yeah. And he did more. He was trying to test like, is this real blood on the shoe? And then, yo, he tested it. It's real blood. But then he cut into the shoe. And it's a tracker. Oh, shit.

Oh shit. So he's next. No, no, he didn't. He fucked up because he didn't send it to a fake address. He,

He sent it to his home. He bought it with his address. Okay, wait. What happened then? I don't know. There was no other... There was no part three, fam. There was part one, part two. So he's gone. I don't know. I haven't looked into it, fam. Somebody checking on bro, fam. Like, is he okay? No, it's bad. I'm not gonna lie. It's bad. Because if you're buying shit off the dark web, you should obviously send it to like a mailbox far away. Yeah. And also, it's one thing to do it. It's another thing to try and expose it. Yeah. Because that's the...

Those type of people don't want, right? True, true. And then if you're exposing shit, man, they're going to go after you. If there's a tracker, bro. 100%, bro. They're going to know, oh, you bought that one? Yeah. I know exactly where that order went now. Yep. Boom.

open that shit up but that's why you think serial killers and shit like that that are not caught yet they're doing that they're using the dark web as they're like selling places and stuff like that I feel like there's different reasons people become serial killers too I don't know if it's always for like there's obviously business pleasure I think it's for themselves right it has to be it's just in their head but to put it out online and try to look for

people that like it too is really odd. I wonder how much there are like actually. Bro, do you know that app where it's like, oh, there's sexual offenders in your area and then you can look at it and there's a bunch? I doubt like, I mean, I believe that there's a bunch in like our area that we just don't know.

yeah you know what i mean because you can you never know fam that's like one of those the the ubers what you told me is like oh i'm trying to buy this kid bro you you don't know every now after that story though every time i hopped in the uber i was actually very scared yeah yes because i'm like who yo i'm if you're really bagging what we're doing we're hopping in a stranger's car yeah we are but it's become so normalized like oh for gavin yep

What do you think safer, the Waymo or Uber? Uber. And you know what's worse? There's something called hop. What's hop? Very cheap. Like, very, like, if Uber's charging $12, they're charging, like, $5. But, but, but, like, the drivers, they're,

I remember my friends take hops because it's very cheap. It's like $5 to get from Scarborough to Pickering. But fam is like, they're not making no money. Who are these people? And we have this theory with our friends. Yo, fam, these guys are definitely just doing something on the side and you're just in it. So they're en route to a delivery and you're just hopping in the car with them. Yo, because what it could be too, and if you really take it in, Uber knows...

your travel habits. Yeah, with their battery shit, man. So imagine you're using an app like Hop. Yes. Where it's a little bit more like lenient with shit because it's a smaller app. They could probably do whatever they want with that information. Like if it was really for serial killers, what I could do with that is I could dead ass give you a whole blueprint on where someone's going to be. Yeah.

In a week span. Depending how many rides they use. That's true. And I don't know if you bag what Google Maps does. Yo, this is how I knew it was kind of fucked. I got in my car once. And it said directions. Google Maps. To the gym. How did it know I was going to the gym? Yeah, yeah. It knows that. Yo, I didn't know it knows that. Apple does that. It was the exact time. I'm like, yo, I'm in my car. I plug in.

why does it why does it think because it knows your habits already you know your habits already it's crazy it's crazy and then you know what's gonna happen too yeah because because ai is in the in the new iphone it's gonna be able to be like okay since he did this he'll be tired he's probably gonna order this from uber eats or let's bump up like this because he might be maybe he ordered meatball sub the other day maybe he was gonna want this

And then they'll get a pattern of what you like to order throughout a year. And after they have that, they'll re-predict it. Yo, on July 12th, he might want a junior chicken. You know what I'm saying? And it's going to be exactly what you wanted. Oh my.

Cuz you're gonna know you it's just gonna know it's gonna know you better than yourself. That's yeah Yeah, because they they pour so much money into this tech that they should be doing that I mean cuz the the whole Elon the Elon Musk thing that just happened the spaceship that blew up Yeah, there's theories going around that too cuz it's like they're saying that oh The government is trying to stop Elon from from actually going to Mars cuz there's some shit that he's not ready to see it or

or they're not ready to let go yet. But fam, yo, if Elon, you know how much money he spends on that tank? Yeah. And they're trying to say, oh, it's just a tank failure. What? It didn't even get off the ground. So it's, they're trying to stop it. Yo, even Elon, like back then, I think it was like six years ago. He crashed out about it? No, no. His first rocket that he tried to send up,

I think it exploded randomly, right? But he said that they sabotaged me. I feel like I'm being sabotaged. Oh, shit. Yeah. Because I've spent so much money. Like, is there like a missile, a fucking missile that they sent to get at us? They send like undercover. Undercover missiles, yes. Yeah, like double agents. Yes. Yeah, so...

whoever's working on it can mess up the calculation. Like, yo, we're not sending this guy to space. And he's bragging about it too. He's like, yo, I'm going to Mars. What the hell? Oh my god. Yo, maybe there's some shit up there that they're already working on and it's not ready to release yet. He's not allowed to have that patch note.

Okay, how crazy of a situation would you have to set a sleeper agent on somebody? A sleeper agent? You know what I mean? Wait, what does a sleeper agent actually do again? Like a double agent that... To just spy on people? You put them in their life.

So it's fucked. It's crazy. Because you hear stories. You hear stories of like, I'm going to make his next relationship with this girl so I can control that guy. This actually happens in the world. They'll send really, really pretty girls in front of somebody. They get to know each other. And it's actually in cahoots with somebody that's behind the scenes running the scam.

So the guy will just pay him, pay a guy. Pay the girl. Yeah. And then she's like a sleeper agent. Obviously she's getting paid too. But the biggest scam is getting onto him because if he's someone like super successful or whatever, then they can take a lot from him or they can get, you know, whatever. See, like, like what, what do you believe now? Cause it's like, Oh, maybe like, Oh, some person that's sent in my life. Oh, now I'm thinking this person actually supposed to be here. Or is it a man trying to fuck up my life? And cause if you have that much money,

Oh, no, that's fucked. There's no way you can predict that. There's no way you can predict that, though. You can, you can. Yeah, there's no... Unless there's, like, evidence that she's part of that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But usually the way sleeper agents work, or, like, double agents and shit, there's no record of them. They just pop up. And they're usually... You know where double agents come from? Where? They come from... The underground? No, they're, like...

Soldiers that should have died or like they're like agents and stuff that got fired Yeah, so they're pretty much non-existent anymore. Oh, they're not on file anywhere anymore So let's say let's say I send you on a mission. Yeah, you're supposed to die on that mission, but you survived Everyone thinks you're dead

I'm going to send you on this mission because you don't exist no more. Oh, that's sick. Right? That's fire. Because they wouldn't expect it to be that person. Yeah, yeah. If he can't even exist at all. There's no evidence. Damn. That's low-key a fun job. I'm not going to lie. Like a sleeper agent. As a kid, I always wanted, you know, bad boys? Yes. As a kid, I wanted to be bad boys so bad. Yo, that's so sick because it's like your whole purpose in life is just to fuck up a person's life.

Like that's fire. That's not fire. No, it's fire. That's not fire. Let's not lie. As long as it's for justice, it's cool. Yeah, yeah. Like Bad Boys is fire. Yeah. Or in Fast and Furious, like Paul Walker's character, he was infiltrating the street gang because they're stealing cars and shit, right? Yeah, yeah. That would be a fire job. What? Just stealing cars? No, no, no, no. You're an undercover agent. Oh, okay, okay. So Paul Walker's character, he was undercover. Oh, yeah, you're right. Yeah, yeah. Oh.

Also, did you know Fast and Furious? Yeah. And what's that movie with Keanu Reeves? Keanu Reeves? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, no.

Double the one with the one where they they rob banks. Oh fuck. I don't know. I know it wait with their work break Oh, okay. Yo point break and Fast and Furious are the exact same movie How so the only difference of point break and Fast and Furious Fast and Furious the double agent is supposed to infiltrate on the street racing gang, right? Yeah in point break what they do to the chain the infiltrate on the

on the surfing gang where they rob banks and then Fast and Furious is getting like dominant, they steal cars. And in both movies, the undercover falls in love with the sister or somebody that's involved with the main leader.

Exactly so same plot same literally same plot. It's just like remix. It's like how twinkle twinkle little star is the same beat as a happy birthday Wait, no, no, I think it's a different song. It's twinkle twinkle and something else But it's like I didn't realize that until I was older wait, which one is it? We well about um, oh no twinkle twinkle is the same as ABCD

But do you think they make that because it's like an easy rhythm Maybe yeah, it's probably one of those you know how they have like Fibonacci sequences and then there's yes Yeah, there's certain beats that attract people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like

- Somehow there's definitely artists out there that are using like, "Roll, roll, roll your boat." - Oh yeah. That's the same shit. - But it's just like remixed. - Yeah.

A, B. No, that's different. No. Twink. Oh, no, it's different. Now I'm thinking too much. No, but I feel like music in general, if you're put on something very early, I think your brain is trained to listen to that. Because I'll show you an underground track, and you won't get it how I get it. You know what I mean? So, yeah. That shit's all programming, fam. You think it's almost as if you gotta be pre- What?

Pre like what do you call it? What's the word? Conditioned Pre-conditioned? You have to be pre-conditioned to enjoy something. Because I always had this theory. Artists will drop like a single or an EP to pre-condition and get them ready for an album. So a great example would be like Travis Scott before he went really into like the I guess darker sound. He would drop a little bit darker songs. And then boom! I don't know where the whole album is at.

but I preconditioned you to like it. Also, I have a theory that

artists work together okay like for example yay travis scott don't oliver or whoever yeah what you could do if you have a cahoots with a whole bunch of artists we can be like all right what we're gonna do is we're gonna precondition this whole audience to like this sort of beat why because we're gonna make this sort of music and then what happens if everyone likes this sort of music they're gonna stop listening to every fucking else yeah they're gonna listen to

us now so all the competition dies but we stay together because we're in cahoots together yo they a hundred percent do that yeah because like yo trends come and go like oh maybe pop is is like a big thing now but hip-hop wasn't and then they're like okay let's switch it up let's all do house yeah but that's dangerous too because they can control a lot they do bro they do yeah yeah they already do and then we're just not picking up in this shit i think i think eventually it's gonna be like

And this is where it gets even crazier too. Because low key, they can precondition us with culture, with music, and then it preconditions us for shit and merchandise with other things. I know. Right? It's going to go with other things like, oh, we're going to use this type of music because this movie is going to be this vibe. Mm-hmm.

Boom. What if there actually is? That's like the opium shit. It's like, oh, the music is one thing, but it also connects to the clothes. The lifestyle. Yeah. And the clothes. All black. Because what if, let's say I was the leader of a huge studio and I controlled these artists.

these designers, these directors, I would be like, all right, since we're all together, let's kind of coordinate our projects to move in a wave for all of us to make money off of each other. Because if we're moving in different directions, we're going to push culture in so many different ways. But if we push culture together, we're going to bring a vibe and we're going to bring a huge wave in our direction and everybody else that isn't part of it

It's just gonna be like separated. But then you have indie artists. And the indie artists, they're just gonna like fuck up everything else because they sound so different from what you're used to. And I think what they become is like, because there's so much of this, that's so different, I wanna hear it. And that's what happened with Kurt Cobain where he fucked up rock music. - Oh, he fucked it up? - Yeah. - Oh shit.

Well not fucked it up in a bad way, but he fucked up the sound and then everybody wanted that grunge Okay, okay, because he made it and made it popular. Yeah, because everyone was making this type of song or this type of like hair glam rock and

He went, some things in the way. You know what I'm saying? Like, wow, this is different. This is like, you know? Yeah. Was he signed to someone? He signed to a label? Yeah, everyone signed to a label. Yeah, but I feel like labels, before they sign the person, I feel like that's the plan that they tell them. And it's like, if you are about this plan and the whole selling your soul, you're going to switch to our type of music because we're going to all sound the same.

You know what I mean? You think it's like that? Oh, that's a good theory. Like, oh, we have Jay-Z, we have Kanye, we have this. Are you ready to just switch up your whole identity to join this and be this big culture shift?

You know what I mean? Yo, that's pretty smart still. You could do that, fam. That's pretty sick. Because like, look at Addison Rae. She started making music. She's making a pop, like a crazy wave here. And who is she linking up with? Yeah, like Charlie X. Yeah. But she was definitely signed under the same, you know? Yes, bro. Yes. That's how it goes. I think the label, yeah, the labels is dead ass the way you want to go. It's like,

It's like you want to do this? Because if you think about it too like imagine back in the day when there was um, there was a push Yeah, where I don't know if you knew about this. Yeah, but like Asian movies They were they were getting a huge popularity, especially during like kung fu era. Okay. Yeah and to combat that well, you know in American side they wanted more attention to

Western ideals so they need more so they made Asians look weak by what by having like you know They always made them like the losers or no shit. Yeah bag it back in it Like I'm talking talking like kung fu era. Yeah, like literally the first Asians in Hollywood were always like nerds and shit. Yeah, yeah But but that's a reason there's a reason for that is because yo

yo they're gonna outsell us because they're freaking like they're booming over there they're even watching across the country you're right fam so we gotta like fuck up their image or they're gonna kill us holy shit yeah now everything it's a theory but like low key low key it makes sense you know what I'm saying I

I don't think that's a theory. I actually don't think that's a theory. Like, they made us weak, fam. Like, yo, that's fucked. Yeah, they always made us, like, the nerds and losers. Like, you can really look into it. It was pretty racist back in the day. Yeah. Especially during, like, the Kung Fu era. So I imagine, like, now in the movie scene, since every Asian is like, we're creating some fire shit now. Now it's different. Yeah, but, like, maybe you never know. They might switch it back to that. Because history repeats itself, right? So do you think there's going to be more...

more Asian roles or do you think it's gonna no I think diversity is like really in a good right now but I don't know I feel like it's gonna flip I feel like it's gonna be a complete flip because they don't want there's already talks about there's so much Asians winning these movies that we have to make a change

You know why Asian movies do so well? Why? And anime in general does really well. Why? Because they actually use a story method that's so different from Western. Where in the Western storytelling, and this is why Sinners did really well. A lot of people don't know this. Okay. What's his name? Ryan Coogler. Yeah. He used an Asian style storytelling like path. Yeah. Storyline path. Where American style is usually...

A lot of like... Like beginning, end, intro, done. It would go like this. So something big happens, this happens. Something big happens, this happens. Something big happens, boom. That's usually an American movie, right? Transformers, whatever, blah, blah, blah. Marvel. And the Asian one is very slow in the beginning. Very slow. Until the very end. Boom! Boom!

I don't like a slow burn though. But those are the best movies. They are. If you actually love movies for movies, right? But if you're watching for entertainment, that's a different story. Yeah, that's true. Ah, Sinners, was it a slow burn? I don't think it was a slow burn. I would have known it was, Joker is a slow burn.

Yeah, yeah. Jokers are fucking like, it's this to this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? But sinners, I didn't feel like that. It did have that, though. Yeah, it did. Okay, I didn't say that, yeah. And you see it a lot in Asian movies, specifically, and anime. Anime, you see it a lot. Anime, you see it so much. Anime. It'll still be entertaining. It's not super slow. It's still entertaining, but it's just like exposition, exposition. Boom! Boom! And that's why Quentin Tarantino movies are usually good.

Because the endings are like the bloodbaths. Yeah. I mean, maybe like, you know, you suggested Love, Rosie. Yeah. I watched that and it was a slow burn, like very slow burn. And then I watched them 10, was it 10 days or something? And that was the most slow burn. Like I had to sit through 16 episodes of that shit just to get to the big one. Yeah, but I did enjoy it. You're right. You're right. I'm Asian at the end of the day. It's in your blood. It's in your blood to enjoy a slow burn like that.

What do you think your favorite trope is? Wait, let me just say this quick. Okay, okay. High key theory, the reason that works so well is because that's how love works. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. If you think about it, like usually traditionals...

Traditional love is like a slow burn. Even in Western though. Okay. I think obviously the Western society moved faster than like in Asia. So romantic films take an automatic slow burn. That's classic still. Just think about a relationship. It's usually like slow burn, right? And then boom. Oh shit. You're right. But now like out here, it's like boom. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Nora was a slow burn at the end. It was a very slow burn like they slowed that shit the fuck down Remember when everything happened already? Okay to the end. Okay, I guess so. Yeah I was in the theater thinking like yo, are is the movie still going on or are they just having a random? Is this a because the ending was just like yeah, it was I would say that's like epilogue

You know, like, the last credits? Yeah, yeah. That's what it felt like. That's what it felt like! And we're like, yo, this already... Yo, skip the cutscene. Like, you're in the video game? Yes! Yes! There was no X! There was no X! You finish the game, and then this is just, like, extra shit to finish. It was Anora and the Igor guy just talking to him about bullshit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it makes the...

Yo, you know why? Because it makes it sick. Because imagine the video games you used to play as a kid, like the story mode ones. You skipped it though. In the end. But then your friends would be like, but did you see the end? Wait, what end? You didn't see the end though. You didn't finish the game. Oh, fuck. I didn't see it. What happened? And they tell you what happened. Holy shit. I didn't see that shit. Yeah. That's how it usually goes. I get it still.

Pre-conditioning. Pre-conditioning. Pre-conditioning. Video games too. So, high key theory right now. Yeah. We know GTA 6 is coming out. Okay. How is this pre-conditioning culture? Oh, that's a good question. When it finally drops, how do you think it's going to condition them? Do you think...

Alright, shit. Shiesties are gonna go up in sale. People are gonna get more into guns probably. Yo, I think that's already happening. Like, even without it being out, just even the thought of GTA, people are gonna like, oh yeah, like, let me be on GTA timing. You know what I mean? Mmm.

and talk different. You know what I mean? Yo, honestly. With all the leaks, but it was supposed to come out this year, so everyone was amped. And you see how everyone reacted? They were already acting this way. Fuck, it's not coming out yet? Yeah, yeah. And they went back to factory reset, bro. Yeah, fam. Yes. And then imagine, too, their preconditioning. Imagine the game makers themselves invested in real estate in the game. Okay.

like B&Bs or whatever. Because they know that once the game comes out, everyone's going to travel where? To Miami.

Imagine they have things already set up because they know, oh, okay, let's put a restaurant here, a bar here, blah, blah. In the game, we're going to make that bar. And then you want to go and see it. Holy shit, that's so smart. It's smart, fam. Wait, that's actually so smart. I feel like that's how millionaires move though. Because it's like, yo, if I have hella money, I'm going to buy some shit in Miami because GTA is coming out. But that's how you're supposed to move. That's how you're supposed to move. Yeah, strategic, fam. Yeah. Like, oh, what's another good example of that? Um...

Like a labubu's or something since it's popular. Oh, maybe I might open up a shop in Pacific Mall with Asians. With Asians for labubu's. That's a recipe for... Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you know Jenny's Fruit Bowl? No. So it's like condensed milk and a bunch of fruits. That was popular on TikTok. Oh, put it right beside the labubu's place. Yo, a bunch of people were just opening fruit shops. Yeah, that's smart. There was never fruit shops before. Yeah, that's smart, bro. You know what I mean? Pre-conditioning, fam. You can just...

And honestly, high key, this is free game now. Because what you could do is just look how trends are moving and then guide your business. Oh, yeah. That's how you see culture is going. Yeah, fam. Boom. Yeah. What's another big trend that we could like, you know what I mean? We could probably like shake some shit up. A good one? It's hard. It's hard. It's hard.

Cause like, ah, it's hard fam. Like say, say like, um, so right now, like the big term is like shark and getting girls and all of that. Right. I'll start a nightclub. I'll start a nightclub called Shark Tales. Maybe an app. Yeah. But there's so many apps already. Yeah, I know. I was going to say something, but I can't say it. It's dark.

Yo, someone started someone started a Instagram page jumpers out there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I started clipping all their fuck shit Like you know, I mean the weird stuff I was gonna say something crazy, but that's like nah. Yeah Maybe on a patreon or something. Yeah. Oh, let's see. Maybe on a face drive

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Welcome to It Takes Energy, presented by Energy Transfer, where we talk all things oil and natural gas. Oil and gas drive our economy, ensure our country's security, and open pathways to brighter futures. What do you know about oil and natural gas? You likely associate them with running your car or heating your home. But these two natural resources fuel so much more than that. More than 6,000 consumer products that we rely on every day are made using oil and gas.

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