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EP.28 - CURSED KLEENEX AD, OLIVIA RODRIGO THEORY, HAVING A CLONE & YAO MING THEORY

2021/6/13
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Gavin Ruta认为服装选择会影响播客节目录制效果,他曾有过只穿黑色衣服才能录制出高质量节目的迷信。他同时还谈到了打造个人标志性风格元素的重要性,并以The Weeknd和X等明星为例,说明标志性元素对个人形象塑造和识别度的作用。 Carlos Juico则补充说明了明星标志性形象的塑造与识别,以及如何将其他领域的策略应用于自身品牌建设。他认为,可以从其他领域学习和借鉴营销策略,并将其转化应用于自身项目,从而取得成功。 Carlos Juico 补充说明了明星标志性形象的塑造与识别,以及如何将其他领域的策略应用于自身品牌建设。他认为,可以从其他领域学习和借鉴营销策略,并将其转化应用于自身项目,从而取得成功。

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The hosts discuss how certain items or features become iconic representations of celebrities or characters, like The Weeknd's hair or Michael Jackson's sparkly outfits.

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Oh, that's your staple, bro. They know you buy that, bro. Oh, yeah, yeah. So, like, if you wear a t-shirt, like, that's not Carlos. Yo, and then remember we made up that thing, like, if I wear a t-shirt, then it's not a banger? No, no, if you have the hair, that's what I said. No, but remember when we first started recording...

Ever. We first ever started recording, whenever I wore a t-shirt, like, we just didn't get it flowing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I always had to wear something, either a hoodie or a cardigan or some shit. And if you noticed in the past episodes, I had a superstition that if I only wore black, it was a black tee, then we would have, like, blessed episodes every single time. You had to break that shit, though. I broke it, like, eventually, but then now, every time's a banger. Every time you just have that black shit, like, the same t-shirt. Like, I have to get sponsored by, like, Gildan or some shit after that.

Because like that ass, like that's all I wore. Yeah. But cardigans is like, I'm trying to make it my iconic piece, you know? Yeah. You know how every like celebrity or every, let's say like a movie character, they have like an item or something they wear that's like...

That always like It's You can see that item And you'll think of that person You were saying Like The Weeknd We were talking about The Weeknd I didn't know his hair Was like that though I thought he was known for like Bro listen His hair Yeah If you see a silhouette Of The Weeknd's hair You know it's The Weeknd I'm trying to think

of thing like i don't remember his hair though like it shouldn't it just come straight to my mind yeah you don't his dreads are like this it's like a bun but it's like it's like this maybe i haven't been paying attention it's like a tree branch type because whenever when i think about the weekend i think about blood for some reason why why blood because like his album cover well like

He was like this or some shit? Oh, I get it. Oh, you know what? Because The Weeknd did change his hair though. He did change his hair. You're right. It's got to be something different. When he was first popping off, he always had the same dreads. It was kind of like... Okay, I remember. I low-key remember the dreads. Remember when Jaden Smith grew out his dreads and it had the same Weeknd shit? Yeah. And then when he grew it out, he's like, oh, baby Weeknd. Or it's like The Weeknd. Yeah, yeah. So...

They attach that look to him. So anytime you see like a silhouette of that shit, you'll think of that person. Just like Michael Jackson with sparkly shit. Yeah. Or like, I don't know. Now it's like X. You know, X is famous like a police picture. Oh yeah. With the two died. The half and half. The half and half. I think that's, he started that wave. Yeah. He kind of started like people started doing it after that.

And like the CLB Like All Men's Now I see with the The harp Cause of Drake Oh yeah That was sick though That's such a good like move It kinda was It was like It was kinda good promo For his album You think it's corny? Yeah I think it's kinda corny I think it's corny when Okay I'm not gonna say that Cause I know man's With that haircut though Oh No but Loki Loki His look proper His look proper though Yeah I'm saying it's cool It's cool I know he's a regular listener So like shout out him No

But what else? What else is there? Who? Look, look. I think if you look at like... Who has like the best hair and rap type shit? No, like an item that you think about right away. It could be like anything. You know what I mean? Like, for example, let's see. I don't know. Like in WWE though, like Rey Mysterio with a mask. That was his main shit. Yeah, it's kind of like that. Like the boogie man with the worms? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like... It's not a mask. It's... What's the word for it?

It's like a... It's just something that sticks, resembles them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's resemblance them. Because right now, I can only think of the hair, like ASAP Rocky with the box braids. I think everyone knows ASAP for the box braids. Oh, Eminem with the blonde hair. Oh, Slim Shady. Yeah, exactly, right? And then when everybody copied that, they thought of Eminem right away. If you see a character, let's say in a cartoon or in a movie, where they're trying to satire it,

Then they'll use those type of like images to resemble that person. So you get that person right away. You'll be like, oh, that's a, that's a shout out to whoever. Yeah. I mean, oh, blonde hair. That's a shout out to Slim Shady. Right. So you're trying to build your own cardigan shit. No, I'm trying to build this like a, I think a Carlos, you know? Yeah.

Because I don't know. I don't have that yet. I don't think so. I just wear whatever I wear. Because I'm trying to dig deep into these marketing strategies, Ram. Yeah. Because you know me. I always dig deep into shit. Yeah, 100%. And marketing is one of my favorite things to dig into. And low-key, I can just take whatever I see and then use it with this. Because there's so many different things. There's so many, let's say, social media tactics, right? Branding tactics, right? That you can see from other things. And if you just choose...

translate it over yeah into your own brand or like your own project then shit you'll find results period i mean we can we can turn jumpers jump into like some athletic shit too if you really know jumpers jump oh yeah yeah yeah word jump we can brand it into something else because i remember when we were starting off we were like yo like come up with some ideas like how can we can brand and the first thing i thought it was like basketball because we jump and shit but yeah i don't know bro just like jumping off

You know, jumping off the edge. I like how it kind of formed. It kind of formed into that. Yeah, like in Matrix, remember that one scene where he's like, Neo, just jump. Oh, yeah. You'll make it, whatever. And he's like, I can't do it. I can't do it. Go jump. And he jumped across like a crazy ass building. I recently watched Project X. Oh, yeah. I finally got into it. You know why I got into it though? Why? Because the Adrian kickback. Oh, Adrian's kickback? Because I was watching the stories and that was like the most warmer version of like Project X.

So I came back and I watched Project X. Oh my God, so fire. I don't know why I slept on this movie, bro. Yo, that came out like, I think we were in grade six. It was like 2014, 2011. I remember watching it. It got ripped onto YouTube. Yeah. And I was like, I was still in grade six. I was watching that on my own like, damn, that's crazy. Damn, it was crazy. The scenes there, my goodness. If you saw that at a young age, you would want to go into high school like going crazy. Yo, they did a Project X in Ontario before. I think it was in Vaughan like long time ago. This was like a

2017 or some shit like that. A proper one though? It was literally Project X and then, oh, was it in, was it in Ontario? Cause there was a Andrews kickback in Toronto this week. No, not that. I'm not talking about that one. That one's recent. That one's recent. There's one like long time ago. They copied Project X. They rented out a mansion. Oh shit. And then I think like a crazy amount of people, I think like 10,000 something people showed up. No. Something crazy like that. Really? And they fucked up the house and it was like over, over 2 million worth of damage or some shit. Oh,

But this wasn't like no one's house, right? This was just like a... It was rented. It was either rented or it was like one of those...

It was one of those houses that were going on sale or some shit. Okay, good. Because if that shit happened in my house... Fam, I'm so respectful at parties and shit. Yeah. I'll have a drink and I'll put a coaster down. I have to really think of it like, okay, if this was my house, how would I want it? Yeah, that's true. But you have those mans. I remember we were at one party and they started playing Mo Bamba, right? Yeah. Some mans took paintings and threw it and shit like that. And the grandpa walked in, I remember. And there was a guy who threw a pillow at the grandpa. Yeah.

Like, dog, that's the owner of the house. I remember exactly that moment, too. I remember exactly that moment. But yeah, we were just turning up and shit, but yeah. Bro, I think that was the first time I really got so drunk in front of everybody.

Remember that? Oh, yeah. But that was when it was like high school's over. Yeah, yeah. Who cares, you know? Yo, I feel bad. Like all these people that are graduating this year, finish all their studies and shit. They don't even have a chance to. Well, at least in America they can now, right? They can. They're free and shit. But in Ontario, it's like you're literally not.

Yeah, damn. Doug Ford said, nah. Yeah, just Canadians and we out of luck, fam. Real say, I like how Canadians were roasting Americans and now we in the same position. Oh, yeah. That's so true. Because, like, Americans rolling loud. Open that shit up. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Open that shit up. I know. That's whatever. At least the world's getting better though. It is. We're supposed to be out soon. Ontario somehow is going to fuck it up. Because look at the shit that happened in our area. Beside the Walmart, they huddled around and drifted. Oh yeah, they had a car meet and then like hella people showed up and shit. One person died apparently. What? That's a rumor. One person died. Oh shit. And one person lost their eye. No. Yeah. From what? Like a shooting? No. Because it was fucking

And they're like drifting the whips. You know what I mean? Oh, word. They're doing donuts. And then I think one of it like hit somebody. Yeah. And I guess the way like he got hit, his eye popped out. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. I think he lost it. I think he lost an eye or like he was like, it popped out or some shit. From a drift, fam? Yeah, bro. Imagine...

It sucks because like over some stupid shit. Yeah, I know. Like fam, I knew like Ontario is going to f*** up somehow. It's all fun and games, but like shit when someone gets hurt. Yeah. It sucks. At the end of the day, you can look back in the memories, fam. I guess so. Without an eye. I mean.

Like, low-key, the best memories are when you're fucking around with your friends and, like, some bad shit happens. Like, you can look back. I guess. You feel me? Just be safe, y'all. Yeah, just be safe. Just be safe. There was some disturbing shit, though, that I watched. What? What's disturbing shit? You know about Mr. 12233rdback? Who's that? You have to watch the video. Okay, okay. Okay, so this is, like, this girl, right? Mm-hmm. Called Maura Madison, who went missing one day. Mm-hmm.

Right. Cause she told her teacher, she's in nursing school. Right. So she told her teachers that she was going on like some holiday break because of family issues. So she had to leave early. Yeah. Right. So in 2004, she disappeared after, after her car crashed on route one 12, which she disappeared on a car crash. Yeah. So the car crash was still there, but she wasn't there. Okay. Right. So she, she disappeared 11 years later. Remember route one 12. Remember that number 11 years later,

She's still missing, right? The police are saying, okay, at this point, there's no evidence where she went. She's a missing person. Yeah. Declared as a missing person. And her parents, her dad always says, she probably got murdered by a dirtbag, right? Kidnapped. Kidnapped by a dirtbag. Yeah. Okay. So 112 dirtbag. Remember those two words. Yeah. So in 2012, on the anniversary of when she got missing. Yes. Some guy posted a YouTube video. Mr.

What the

I got while I was writing in my notes. I like I like got shivers. Did they show it? They didn't show the girl though, right? No, they didn't show the girl. But it was a guy literally old ass guy in front of the camera on the chair. Just what the f***? That's so weird. Yeah, like imagine that shit. What if it's just trolling? No, but that's the thing. Like they still haven't like tied it together. It's still unsolved? Unsolved. Oh, yeah. Because yo, you ever watch that movie The Zodiac? No. Bro, so in The Zodiac...

They were looking for the Zodiac killer. Right? And they ended up narrowing it down to a few couple suspects. Yeah. And one of the suspects, they had like so many things that lined up with him. Yeah. That may have, it was pretty much him. You know what I mean? Like all of these things lined up that were like, okay, it has to be this guy. First of all, his watch was called Zodiac. Oh.

The brand of his watch was Zodiac. You know what I mean? He was at certain places. He was into certain things that the killer liked. But the thing was...

They didn't have any proof besides like these little references that tied him to the murder. And you can't accuse someone like that. Like if it's only like little clues. It's got to be, it's got to be like solid evidence type shit. You know what I mean? But it sucks because when, when he leaves these little like hints, these little references to show. It all like ties up. Yeah, it all, it all ties up. Like how could it not be him? You know what I mean? How could it not? So it's like frustrating. Like we want to get this guy, but we can't.

I mean, that's probably like that case. Is he in jail or they haven't? They just haven't touched upon. This is a long time ago. This is a long time ago. I believe it was in the 80s. I believe it's 80s. But what happened was they ended up unsolved. Unsolved? Case unsolved. Left alone. Yeah. Because they couldn't do anything. I don't know. Imagine. But like that dirtbag shit really just creeped me out because of the 112 dirtbag. Like, that's really weird. Yeah. But then it could just be a troll too. I don't know. It could just be a troll. It was an old guy, fam.

Or maybe... Saying old guys are evil. I don't know. That's a theory, bro. It might have been a troll or maybe the guy just took some random old guy laughing hysterically and just posted it. But maybe the guy who posted it was the killer. Because literally, it was on the anniversary. See, that's the thing I'm saying. It all lines up, but you can't prove it, though. You can't prove it. It's just like...

Yeah. The biggest troll. Yeah, it's like the biggest troll. Okay, look, look. It's either up to them to figure it out or they can't get evidence and they can't solve that shit. That's like cheating on a test. Cheating on a test. If the teacher doesn't have significant evidence, what do you mean I cheated? Yo, okay. You know in Naruto, the tuning exams? No. So in Naruto, they had to write a test. Yeah. Right? The tuning exams. They had to write a written test, right? Yeah, yeah.

Now, the first rule was like, you could not cheat. You could do nothing to cheat. If we catch you cheating, right? You're out. Okay. Now, the key was if we catch you cheating. Yeah. So they actually wanted you to cheat. They wanted you to express like your abilities and use whatever you could to cheat. But if we caught you cheating, then you failed the test. So the real test was if you can cheat without getting caught.

So it made them be like, yo, what if, what if? Did they end up cheating on that shit? Everybody cheated, bro. Everybody cheated. Yeah, there's a theory that Derrick Rose cheated on his SATs. Wait, why? Derrick Rose? Yeah, I think this is actually true though. Because he had to take an SAT, right? But he made a guy go in the class and...

And take it under his name. And it qualified and certified under the University of Memphis. Yeah. And that's how he got in. Oh, so he had to make a certain requirement before he could go? Yeah, yeah. So he made a guy take his SATs. Wow. You could get away with that shit, eh? No, you can't. You can't. You could get away with that shit. Because I always thought like... Because me and my cousin were in the same... We were in the same program. Yeah. It's like...

And you both had Wiko. Yeah, he did. No, no, he's a different last name. Oh, okay. But he looks like me. He looks like me, you know? Yeah. So I always thought like, what if...

just one day yeah i just let them like here's my id yeah right because when they look at your id like they look at it but they don't like stare like you know i mean the tas are like all right looks like you are you're blessed we don't advise this shit like go take your test i don't advise cheating this is just like this is just like in my head like i was thinking about but fam low key i don't think they could find out yeah that's like that's like okay if you had a twin what was the first thing you would like do that whole day if i had a twin yeah

Bro, if I had a twin, I would take over the world, fam. I do like some crazy magician tricks and shit. I do the craziest like pranks. If I had a twin, I would pretend to the world that my twin didn't exist and that we were one person. Oh yeah, that's 100%. So you can get away with that shit. So just imagine like I come out with this...

No, I don't know.

Imagine that shit happened. So you would just troll the whole world. I'll troll the whole world, but I'll make it like a phenomenon. You know what I mean? So they would like praise you as this god. They're like, oh shit. I'll be like Houdini. Like he can...

Control everything nah I would do that too I would low-key go on America's Got Talent and play one of those tricks you know it's like oh if the sand lands on me before I escape yeah yeah exactly exactly you could do one of those it's like the movie prestige you ever watch that no I haven't oh you should watch it what is it about it's it's about it's about two magicians it's exactly ah fuck it's spoiler alert but yeah it's spoiler alert it's about two magicians and then they're like they're rivals and they try to outperform each other with different tricks

And I'm gonna leave it at that. I'm gonna leave it at that. Amazing movie directed by Christopher Nolan. It's Christian Bale and what's his name? Wolverine. Wolverine? What's his name? Hugh Jackman. Hugh Jackman. Fuck.

Fire ass movie. Really? Okay, I'm gonna have to see that. But yeah, the twin shit too. You told this theory before. The Markeith Morris and Marcus Morris in the NBA. Oh, yeah. Tell that theory, bro. Okay, was it the finals? It was the finals, yeah. So it was the finals. Markeith and Marcus. Oh, no. Who was sick? Okay, so I think Markeith was sick that one game. Yeah. Right? And they're twins in the NBA. Markeith and Marcus. Right? So they're saying that Marcus...

filled in with him that game and they're like trying to decipher like okay maybe the ears are not on but they look exactly the same yeah yeah I think they don't have any and bro the same tattoos fam oh they do they have the exact same tattoos so that's what it's trippy cause like you would look at their arms and see oh okay okay maybe this is a different person because of the tattoo right same exact tattoos oh

Yo, imagine you have a twin with the same tattoos as you, fam. Fam, that's, we can rob a bank. He can do time for me. I'm chilling. I'm chilling. Real shit, bro. That's sick, though. It's crazy, bro. It's like having, it's like having a clone. It's literally having a clone. Yeah. You know what? I feel like Marcus should just retire and then like just play whenever Markief is just like. He's just bored. He's like, I don't feel like playing today. You want to go in? You want to go in?

To save our bodies. They're twins though, right? Like they're both born the same day? Yeah. Okay, good. Because some siblings like...

yo for example i know these two these two um siblings yeah they're not twins but they look exactly the same fam really like i feel like that happens sometimes when when you have like they're they're like one i think they're one year apart shout you know but yo they look exactly the same and it's just it's just through genetic it's not even like it's not even just like they're twins yeah it just it just so happens they look so similar just like um who's that model that has a little sister

Summer Rae. You know Summer Rae has a sister that looks just like her? Summer Rae? Yeah, she has a sister that looks just like her, fam. I did not know that. You did not know that? Nah. I know Chantel Jeffries has a little sister that kind of looks like her, but not a twin. But you're saying Summer Rae has a twin. No, she doesn't have a twin. She has a sister that looks just like her. Okay. You've seen those Siamese twins, though? Siamese twins? Yeah. Who? I saw this TikTok of like, there's two guys, right? Yeah. Or like connected in one body. Oh, no, I know that. So they would be like this. So I'm like, yo, what if you get bored? Because

Of the guy you filmed me It's kind of messed up It is though But like What do you do And like if we're talking Body distortions I've seen a shorty With like three titties For real Or like Nah that's gotta be Like plastic surgery Cause like there was this model Who was like okay So like when she was a teen She was showing like her old pics With like a baseball thing And then like when she grew up She was a model And she had like One Two Three Like she's known for For having three boobs And you already know That's a rare breed still It's a rare breed

Yo, I'm pretty sure there was a woman in India that grew four or some shit, right? Really? That actually grew? Like real. Like four. But I know there was someone with three, but they got like plastic surgery. Oh, and like she didn't get it off? Yeah. I think. Word. But like if something that happened to me that was like that, I would low-key keep it. Like having... Okay, imagine having a body distortion. Yeah. Imagine having a third arm. A third arm? Nah, I would low-key cut that off. I would low-key cut that off. A third arm? Yeah. Okay, what if you had four? What if you had... You have four arms.

The guy in bed 10? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know. Bro, on that, yo, you'd be the greatest fighter. You'd be f***ing Mortal Kombat shit. They wouldn't allow that, fam. No way. No way. But man, you got into a street fight though. You can hold someone down and punch them. Nah. You can literally choke somebody while punching them. That would be hard though. But like that, that shit is weird. Okay, okay. Would you rather have two arms? I mean, four arms or four legs? I would look at four arms. Four arms? Because four legs, what helps?

What helps with four legs? You can kick people. I don't think you can run faster. No, you would. I think you might be discombobulated because running with four might be confusing, no? But a horse is faster with four. A dog is faster with four. Oh, you're right. You're right. But then you're going to look like a centaur. Yeah. You're going to be shaped like this. You're going to be like, who the fuck is that? Like running on the thing. I know people like, I don't like my height. I don't like how skinny and fat I am. I think I'm a proper height. I like my height.

Because like I seen this comedy show It was like Yo I feel like God is evil Because God made Filipinos Love basketball the most Right But he made every Filipino Like 5, 6 Nah that's so true Because I swear Like if you ask any Filipino Why they didn't continue basketball

It's because they're short. It's because they're short. But we love that shit. Do you have any Filipinos in the league? There's a new guy that's up and coming. Filipino? Kai, yeah. Word. Yeah, I think his name is Kai, but he's in the G League right now. He's seven foot though. Oh, okay. There you go. There's a theory that Yao Ming was made in a lab. What? You know about that? Nah. Okay. In China, you know how the US always ruled the Olympics, right? So they had MJ. They had the dream team, right? So they were like, we want to get on top, right?

So they were scouting for people when they're kids. And they make sure that they breed them

So they can become a certain sport. So they'll take a child and breed them mostly for basketball. What do you mean breed them like scientifically? No, no, no. Like they'll take them and make sure their whole life is dedicated to this sport. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's like in Rocky fam. Yeah. But here's the thing with Yao Ming. Okay. So they took his mom and dad were taken from when they were children and they were bred to play basketball. No way. This led to a forced marriage. They had Yao Ming. No way. Okay. So here's the thing.

Yao Ming, the government, the Chinese government supposedly made Yao Ming take all these practices six days a week, right? And he wasn't getting the key nutrients, right? So they made him drink like all this shit, which made him grow way more. Whoa. So that's why he ended up being seven foot because he originally, he wasn't supposed to be seven foot. He took these drinks that made him like two inches, two inches. How tall is his parents? You know? They have to be like six feet. Yeah, they have to be tall. Damn.

but yeah in china they only scout for for girls it's five seven for guys it's six ten i feel like that's a there's a lot of countries that do that though like even in russia like dagestan freaking khabib yeah his whole life he was meant to be a fucking mma fighter you know that meds was wrestling bears yeah when he was like five years old yeah wrestling with bears and shit they do that it's such a go-to video of khabib yo that's hard i'm not no that that's

Yo, no one can compare to that, man. When I was five years old, I wrestled a bear. What would you do when you were five years old? Play with Pokemon. Pokemon.

I was ripping Beyblades, man. But yeah, that's funny because I took some shit too in the Philippines because I still had dreams of becoming a basketball player. And my mom gave me this drink called Cherry Fair. A lot of Filipinos know this, but it's supposed to increase your growth hormone. Really? And low-key, I did grow. Because I wasn't supposed to be this tall. Because your parents are a little bit shorter? Yeah, my parents are hella short. Because I'm taller than both of them right now. Me too. Both of my parents are short. But I'm just taller. But I feel like what it is, it's just...

Placebo. No, no, no, no. I think it's something in the Canadian water, bro. Canadian water? Or it's like the food here. Something in the Dasani fam? Not even Dasani, just like the food here, fam. What is it? We have better GMOs? Maybe. Maybe. Because they put steroids in that shit. Huh? They put steroids in the fruit and like the meat and shit. Yeah, because remember you were telling me the Wingstop shit? Yeah, bro. Okay, listen, listen. Yeah. Dog, anytime you go to a wing place, right? Yeah.

And they bring out the platter. Let's say you order like 20 wings. You have to take in 20 wings with how many chickens to make that 20 wings? I mean, chickens have two wings each. Two wings each? That's 10 chickens, bro. Yeah. Tell me how. They killed 10 chickens for just that little plate of wings. So what are you saying? So they have mutated chickens? Now listen. Now here's the theory. Here's the theory. Okay. What if they just genetically mutate chickens to have like a...

10 wings on one body and it's not even like it's not even like a regular chicken anymore it's like a wing chicken yeah

It's just bare wings on the one chicken. Its purpose of life is to give more wings to us. Oh, that's f***ed up. But I could see that though. Because how many chickens, right? Yeah. Because at a wing place. You order like 20 pieces. Imagine like the whole table orders like 100 wings. Oh, yeah. Whole table, right? Yeah. Bro, how many chickens is that? That's 50 chickens, bro. What happened to the breasts? Yeah. I mean. What are they doing with that? What happened to the thighs? Or do they just order the chicken separate, the chicken wings separately, just re-toast it? Well, how though?

You mean they just order... They order the wings part. Wings bulk? No, but I feel like these big... Like, if you're a big restaurant, you're gonna have your own, like, supplier. Yeah, that's true. Let's say, like, a Buffalo Wild Wings type shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. I wouldn't just buy off, like, a butcher. I'd have my own supply of, like, my own farm. Okay. Right? So what if...

Not even like a chicken itself? What if it's just like an organism that grows wings? It's not even breathing and shit. You know what I mean? So it just grows and it turns. It's like a blob. It's like a blob that has like 10 wings on it. Ew, bro. Ew. Okay, now I'm not going to wings. You ruined chicken wings for me, bro.

yo but but okay let's say let's say that does happen let's say they do do that shit behind closed doors like who's stopping them yeah is that illegal i don't think that's illegal they get the most bang for their buck it's a business yeah might as well save some shit by just ordering that the wings yeah yo did you know bananas were in like this small nah yeah bananas were like this small and then through gmo and in like it grew into that yeah oh dude like fruit engineering type shit

They made it into the bananas we eat today and they don't even taste the same. Mmm.

Just like grapes. You know grapes, they're genetically modified to taste like cotton candy. What? Yeah. Grapes do not taste like cotton candy. No, there's like a certain breed. They genetically modified it to taste like cotton candy. They have it at Costco. Right now? Yeah, they have it at Costco. Well, we have to try that. What the hell? Did you try it? It's not like... When you taste it, you don't realize it's cotton candy until like, oh, yeah, it is cotton candy. You know what I mean? I guess. Because it just tastes like so sweet. Oh, okay. But they do that with everything, bro. They do that with like...

Oranges. Oranges are like this small. Yeah. Now we have the fucking huge oranges like this. Fam. Right? If you see a watermelon grow in like the wild. Yeah. The watermelons are like a baseball. Yo, because like when you're a kid, you're like, I don't want to eat broccoli. They should just do that with broccoli and inject the cotton candy into the broccoli so kids eat it. You know what? I think they do that already to make it taste better. Low key. The broccoli. Maybe. Maybe.

Because if you're going to do with the fucking fruits, why not the vegetables? But does it lose all of its benefits though? Like if you inject that shit then? No, it probably has better. That's what I'm saying. So if we have the ability to genetically modify our food, we can have like the best food for

For best benefit. You know what I mean? Best cost benefit. So let's say, let's say we get a certain amount of nutrients from like this apple. Yeah. Right? Now this apple is small and I can make it bigger and I can give it more nutrients if I inject it with this, blah, blah, blah. I start my own breed of in.

Now we have these super apples that whenever we eat, we have more nutrients instead of just getting the ones you found in the wild. Golden apple in Minecraft, fam. Because, you know, they even tried to... This is true. They cloned a sheep or a lamb. For what? For what reason? They cloned it to prove that they can clone shit. Oh, hell no. Just in a bottle, fam. Yeah.

You think fighters like genetically insert lower, not steroids, but like a lower dose of like some shit. Cause I know like the, the, I don't know what it's called. Like HGH or some shit like that. It's some supposed to like calm the body down. Like when, if you're, it's like, um, what do you call this? It's like weed.

In a liquid form. CBD? I don't know. Something like that. It might be CBD, but it calms the body down. So you're asking me if fighters use substances like that? I'm pretty sure CBD is allowed in the UFC. I'm pretty sure. I could be wrong. I'm pretty sure it's allowed. I think even THC is allowed. I don't know the gray area within that, but if you bag a lot of these athletes, right? I think it was Chael Sonnen. No, Chael Sonnen, the guy that fought Anderson Silva. So...

He came out and said, like, all of these people in the UFC, the Conor McGregors, John Jones, John Jones, come on. You know what I mean? All of these people, all these top tier fighters, GSP, blah, blah, whatever, right? They took performance enhancing drugs, but it wasn't the ones that get caught.

It's a whole new thing. That's what I'm saying. Like the lower level ones. Like where you probably wouldn't get caught with. Yeah. Because you know the Muay Thai fighter Rod Tang? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know him. Bro, like I swear like his chin is iron. Like he'll be punching and then he'll put his head towards you and then he'll punch it right after. Yo, but the Thais found taking those Thai mans, they go and train their jaw and train their shin, train their elbows and train their fists. They'll get f***ing

Gravel in buckets And pound their hands In the buckets They'll get their legs And smash A coconut tree Okay Cause I thought That's why I asked that question Cause I thought he was Taking some type of steroid Oh that's why you thought that Nah They trained for that Yeah

Yo, if you ever kick... If you kick my shin, fam... Oh, yeah. It's harder, right? Yeah. Now, imagine someone that trains way more than me, like a raw tank. Imagine him. His shin is fucking, like, metal now. Yeah, it's like metal. Just because it's built all that callus and shit, it's so conditioned where it's, like...

Metal. Because I was looking at him like Muay Thai fighters, you guys train on that shit. Because I remember you hit me with some type of kick with your shin. You didn't kick me with the top because Taekwondo were meant to hit these kicks. You hit me with your shin, fam. I swear I was gassed. I was like, what the hell just hit me? You hit me with like a bat.

Yeah, because that's the difference with Muay Thai. Muay Thai is more like it's all just brute force and strength rather than like placement. It is still placement. Don't get me wrong. It is. It's more wild kind of. You can see it coming but like the Muay Thai, they just catch it. It's nothing to them. It's like trading hits. It's like trading hits. Like,

Can you take my power? Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. But I feel like Taekwondo... You talk about Taekwondo. It's just more placement. Since there's chest plates and stuff, we're more focused on how to get the point. You don't have to kill them to get the point. But I heard... Tell me if I'm wrong. I heard there's two forms of Taekwondo.

There's, like, the traditional. That's where they do, like, more of the combat taekwondo. And then there's more of, like, the point style. So there's two different styles, right? That's a newer style because I think it got softer after that. Because, like, the older style, it was no equipment. You just go in with your uniform and you just... Whoever knocks out first. It was more, like, karate-ish. Yeah, it was more karate-ish. That's dope. That's dope. Have you seen those fights where, like, they put...

They put like a Muay Thai fighter and then like a Taekwondo fighter. No, I haven't. There's so many. There's a lot. There's a lot. I think there was, it was like, I think it was in the 90s or some shit, right? They had this like live event, like big event. Yeah. It was a Muay Thai fighter, Muay Thai champion and a Taekwondo champion. And they're fighting in their styles. In their styles, not like MMA, no nothing. Like they're strictly Taekwondo, strictly Muay Thai. And you can really see like the difference. And it's so dope to see like,

the best of each and then see how they move you know i mean it's really like seeing because if you look at an mma fight right looking at mma fight you have like a john jones and you have like a gsp right yeah you put them together they kind of learn the same shit yeah they're used to it though yeah they all learn kind of the same shit because it's mixed martial arts exactly but when you take away some of the training then it's like oh yeah this guy's so different i remember the story because we were just randomly fighting one day it was me and you yeah right and um

In Taekwondo, you're not allowed to grab. Oh, yeah. Here's the thing, though. Because it was just a sparring match. No rules. Because you're used to grabbing, right? And those rules weren't established. Yeah. So I threw a kick. And you grabbed my shit. And you tripped me. And then I'm looking. My master's watching my fight. So my eight-year master that taught me everything, looking at my fight, he's like...

And I'm looking at him like, sir, I didn't know we're allowed to do that. But he's like, yo, if you're in that type of situation, you got to learn that, you know, that he's a Muay Thai fighter. He can do that to you. Yeah, that's what's so dope. Like when you get into like MMA and then looking at other different styles, you get to see like, okay, he's more of this type of fighter. Yeah. So he's going to move a little bit more like this. Yeah. So I think...

I feel like the best way of learning is like... You have to go and experience it. No, no, no. I feel like... Okay, you know how they talk smarts, right? How would you call intelligence? There's different type of intelligence. There's like academic intelligence and there's intelligence where it's environmental. Like book smart, street smart. Right? But there's also an intelligence where it's like adaptability. So not only is he quick-witted...

He's so smart where he can adapt to whatever situation. Yeah. I mean, so you put him into a situation that he hasn't been into and he's smart enough to learn it. Yep. You know what I mean? That was not me though. Cause I remember I was like, I'm gonna stick to this one thing. Okay. But I remember fighting this boxer. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So he, my master threw me in cause after Taekwondo practice is the boxing practice. Right. So he's like, yo, Gavin, come here. I'm gonna, I'm gonna let you spar. Yeah. I bet, I bet, I bet.

So I put on my things. He's like, anything is allowed. Yeah. Right. So this big ass guy, like his shirt is tucked in. Yeah. Like, you know, those, the heavy hitters. Right. So I'm, I'm looking, I'm looking, I'm like, okay, this guy's just slow. I'm just trying to outsmart him. Yeah. Right. I don't do that. I stand in box with him. Oh,

The thing is, Bop, he hits me with some crazy thing. I get down. He's like, bro, what are you doing? You're Taekwondo. Move around, you dumbass. You can't play his game. You can't play his game. You gotta switch it up. I was literally fighting a Yoel Romero.

Like, fam, I seen, I remember, the vlog is coming soon, but you have a boxing vlog. Yeah, I have a boxing vlog. And John, and John, I've seen him, he had his shirt tucked in just like the guy I was fighting, and I know, I know he's one of those bulky, like, I'm gonna hit you with one punch and you're out. And you saw that clip of Miles? Yeah. Oh my god, bro. Oh my gosh, but yeah, if I, that's why, if I adapt to him, I'm gonna have to move, like, there's no way I can stand and fight with him.

And yo, you know what's dope? You can take kind of that like mentality of I'ma learn in that situation. I'ma learn through being in that spot. You can take that mentality and bring it to whatever you want. Oh yeah. You know what I mean? And I feel like I learned that from fighting. Because when I was fighting you, bro, your footwork is crazy. Your footwork is nasty. You know what I mean? And I feel like a lot of Taekwondo, that's what they train. Footwork, footwork, footwork, right? Muay Thai, we're really just like stiff. We're more like...

i stand my ground you stand your ground right then you're like moving everywhere like damn i'm like a sitting duck yeah i mean and especially especially when you're in um because you're open mat yeah we're an open mat so when you're open mat you can move everywhere but in a ring then it's like closed off you can't move out you get into the walls you get into the side right the corner so i'm like

okay i gotta adapt you know what i mean yeah and then you started yeah it was so funny because the first time we sparring yeah i kind of like moved around and you killed me i got slapped yeah and then the next time we came i don't know what happened but you started like moving with me i'm like oh shit and you trapped me whenever you saw an opportunity to trap you trapped i'm like oh shit he's

He caught on. But I love learning like that, right? I love learning because I learned a lot from just firing with you as a Taekwondo fighter. Yeah. And then I kind of like, I just transferred to Rover and Loki, I took elements of that into my own style now. And then I just use it all the time now. Exactly. So would you ever do UFC? UFC? Ah,

Your longevity in that is crazy. You know what I want to see? Yeah. I want to see the TikTok influencer fights go to MMA instead. They wouldn't. They're too soft for that. Yeah? They're too soft for that. I want to see it get there. If it gets there, I'll do it. Oh, really? If it gets there, I'll do it. Yeah, because obviously...

You know the guy with the baby, like the Michael? I think his name is Michael. He's famous on TikTok with his little brother. Oh, the dancer. Yeah, the dancer. He's getting fucked up by whoever's fighting him. I think he's fighting... Is he fighting DDG? No, no. He's fighting FaZe Jarvis. Oh. Yeah, he's got...

He's getting fucked up. I don't know if these guys have hands though. Yeah, I don't know. But I feel like a lot of these people that go into those influencer fights, they don't have an idea of what fighting is. Yeah. I mean, they think it's just all fun and games. They think like they can just pick it up like basketball. Yeah.

but nah it's different they're gonna get thrown in the deep end fam they're probably just gonna have to learn yeah cause when you go into your first fight how did your first fight go? first fight? no I knew everything cause I was experienced I had like at least a year of experience before I went into my first fight oh really? or like 6 months which is good so you had like did you have like demos? like

Like it's like high, it's like high intensity sparring. Yeah. I mean like that. Yeah. Every, every week we would spar. So I was already used to it. Yeah. That's good. That's good. That's why I was so good with it. Cause like I already knew what was going to happen. See for me when I first got into the ring where it's like the lights in your eyes and shit, everybody's cheering and shit is different. It's different. It's like I'm on a stage now. It's not, it's not, I'm just, I'm just here training. Like I'm on a stage and I'm performing. Yeah.

So like I gotta get used to that You know what I mean Am I right by saying this Muay Thai There's only one fight going on Yeah yeah yeah Cause Taekwondo There's a bunch of fights Oh really So it doesn't feel pressure There's mat mat mat mat mat

Oh, what? So I'm like, if I get knocked out, only a couple people will see it. Oh, shit. I didn't realize that. But I know Muay Thai is like, main event of the evening. Yeah, that's what it is. Carlos, so like, you gotta perform. Yeah. Oh, shit, I didn't back that. No, only like professional tournaments, there'll be like one mat. But the shit I go to is like six fights. Now, even in Muay Thai, we had this whole like...

Some events have this, some events don't. But we have this whole dance you do. It's called the Y crew. And then it's like a... It's a sealment of the ring. So you're supposed to lock away any evil spirits from coming into the ring. So in Thailand, the first ever Muay Thai events, there's stories of people casting spells to curse people.

curse the other fighter right so you do this you do this whole ritual where you do a dance it's called the y crew and then you're pretty much blessing the ring so locking away all this evil spirits locking away all the evil energy and then whatever happens with the ring happens in the ring separated from the outside that's fire well you know i don't know if this is right but does the haka represent something else because i don't know what it represents but i know that any any like new zealander they do it

Even like, I seen a video at the airport when they were greeting. It might not just be a greeting, but like they do a dance. So the Hakka is, they're Pacific Islanders, right? Yeah, yeah. So they do it as like a war cry. So anytime they go into battle, I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure like a lot of other tribes did this too. Yeah. Like even Samoans, right? They do the Hakka dance.

As like, I'm going to f*** you up type shit. Oh, really? It's like, you want to go to war with us? You know? You know those men that talk so much s*** before they fight? Me? No, like, you know those men, all they do is yell first. They yell first. Oh, you want to go, buddy? You know what I mean? So it's kind of like that, but it's more of like, this is who we are. You know what I mean? Instead of doing all that trash talk, it's like, one, two, you know what I mean. They're just screaming at them, screaming at them. And then it intimidates the enemies. No.

But yeah, would you ever want to be in those rings with like the sumo fighters? A sumo fighter? Yeah. Bro, they weigh like 200 plus, right? Imagine trying to push that shit, bro. Nah, you know what?

if i'm fighting a sumo fighter if he doesn't hold me i'm good but that's the main thing if he doesn't get it if he doesn't get like a hand of me then i'm blessed yeah i can hit him with some kicks and like yeah get out of there move around yeah you'll you'll fight bless with him unless he grabs you no if he grabs me like i weigh like what 100 something 150 you were his plate literally the plate he ate like that's how much you weigh exactly oh my god

Like, that's why I want to go to, like, Japan, all the Asian countries, just for that. Yo, I had this super sick idea. I'm going to say it on camera, but I really hope nobody takes this idea. So, in Hawaii, when I went to Hawaii, they had this thing called a luau. Oh, yeah. You've been to a luau before? No, I haven't been to a luau, but I know what it is. So, in a luau, they took, like, different, I guess, tribes, right? So, they had...

They had the Hawaiian tribes. They had the ones from Samoans, right? They had all these different Pacific Islanders. Okay. And they showed kind of a display of each tribe. So one of them was like the fire dancing. One of them was the hula. One of them was... It's like they all had different things. So I'm like, what if I make my own event? Kind of like a Mortal Kombat event. No way. Where I make it like, okay, I'm a display...

Taekwondo. Oh, shit. I'mma display Muay Thai. I'mma display Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, all of these different, like, Roman wrestling. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then, whoever wins those tournaments...

gets bumped up into the into the gauntlet and then it's like taekwondo muay thai and it's like judo jiu-jitsu whatever and then whoever makes it to the top makes it to the top but the rules are no one can be like an mma fighter it has to be like strictly oh you just got to use your rules yeah it has to be strictly like how they train oh so it's kind of like a luau but for fighting

I really want to do that one day. You're the Joe Rojo. Who is it? Dana White? Get an island. Put Bear Fighters on that. Except now it's just like specific roles they're going to play. But you're going to need a lot of people for that though. I know. That's like when I'm a multi-millionaire. I'll come out with something like that. We can do some little vlog like that. Just like of single people. And you just got to do it like that. Bro, and I want to make it. Because in the luau they have like music and shit. They really set the tone. You know what I mean? Like you feel you're in that part of the world. So imagine you make it like Japan.

And then like you put all this like music and shit and then like, like whatever art you see, you know what I mean? And then you switch the set and you're in Thailand. You're all the time. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then like, yo, that would bring a whole lot of buzz though. Because like I remember in my studio too, there's always been a conflict of who's the better fighter. Like the karate men would roast the Taekwondo men and the Taekwondo men would call them soft. Like you guys are soft, right?

bro. We never had a tournament doing that though. So imagine, imagine something like that. That's what it takes. I feel like that's what it takes. Cause, cause now when you have MMA, it's like, you're taking a little bit of Muay Thai too. So you can't really say, yeah. And then be like, Oh, you're taking a little bit of this. So it's like, it's not a good true test of like, which one's better. But in reality, which one is really better? I don't know if you can, I don't think you can really say which one's best. It depends on the fighter. Yeah.

that's true right i've seen some story about john jones yeah i think i told you this before but before every fight he would party hella hard oh yeah he used to do like in and shit hella hard before the fight so if he loses he has something to blame yeah so he'll be like i i lost because i partied yeah i heard that and and dana and joe rogan's like what the why the f**k did you do that he's like nah i needed an escape goat because because he was a champion when he was so young yeah he was

He was champion so young. I feel like when you're so young and you come up on like such a big stage and you have so many eyes on you and so much success at such a young age, life changes in a way where like you got to, you're always chasing something else and you're always looking for, I guess, an escape from what you're at. Because look at Justin Bieber. When Justin Bieber first,

Like remember that whole time when he was getting like DUIs and shit. He was like partying and shit. And even he talked about this before. He went on like a lot of drug abuse and shit. So I feel like when you're so young and you find like

that success so quickly yeah right when i was gonna say yeah go ahead shit can go like downhill if you fall into the wrong things yeah like i was gonna say disney stars look at all them um what do you call this who fell off really bad lindsey lohan lindsey lohan and miley cyrus miley cyrus one of the worst ones i've seen but they're gonna pick it up soon but i feel like the thing the things with um disney stars what sucks is they want to try and

change their image. Yeah. Because when you're, when you're Disney, you're like Disney, oh, everything's like family friendly, right? Yeah. Then they're stuck with that kind of, that kind of like stigma or that, that image. They're stuck with that image of like, it's too nice, it's too friendly. And then they don't have those opportunities for like those darker roles. Like they're not able to express themselves the way they want to. Yeah. Right.

Right? Like seeing a Disney star on like a horror film. You're not gonna, low-key, you're gonna remember that Disney star from like what he came from and not take the horror film seriously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yo, but you know who I really like? Who? Olivia Rodrigo. She's doing a good job. Banger. Yo, she's swearing in her songs, eh? Yeah, I think so. She's swearing in her songs. But the album that she put out was mad depressing, bro. No, it was good though. It was good. I loved it. Like, I actually got in my feels. That was just so good. Like, I think that's the first time I actually sat down and listened to like one of those type albums and I was like, damn.

Yo fam, did you know there's a theory about Olivia Rodrigo's track Good For You? No. So, okay, here's the theory fam. Okay. So, you know the track Misery Business by Paramore? Yeah. It sounds almost exactly the same to Olivia Rodrigo's track Good For You, right? Yeah. Now, it has the same chorus, it has the same like upbeat, it has the same kind of like progression, right?

And if you look at the lyrics, there's a theory that Olivia Rodrigo's track is just a prequel to her track. So the story lines up. Now, Olivia Rodrigo's track is about her getting her heart broke by her boyfriend that left her. Right. And then after two weeks.

He went and found another girl. Misery Business is about a girl that takes a guy from another girl after two weeks of meeting. Nah, like the exact plot? Yeah, so if you look at the lyrics, Olivia Rodrigo, I mean, yeah, Olivia Rodrigo, she says like, found another girl after two weeks, blah, blah, blah, right? Says something like that. And then in Paramore, Hailey says,

It was only two weeks caught on fire. Oh, no. But yo, here's the thing though. I was playing Guitar Hero. Dog, taking the first time I heard Olivia Rodrigo's track. You knew it. No, no, no. I was playing Guitar Hero upstairs, right? Yeah. And then my sister walked in. I was playing Misery Business. Yeah. Guitar Hero, Guitar Hero World Tour. My sister walked in. She's like, what?

why does this sound just like olivia rodrigo's new track i'm like does it i don't know i don't know i didn't listen to that right yeah she pulls it up like yo it's exactly the same if you listen to it trust me you'll see the resemblance yeah she definitely took inspiration from it it's

It's not like she was biting it. It was more like a tribute. Yeah. I would get that. Maybe she's influenced by that. Yeah, she's just influenced by that. And what's dope is like, I love that she's bringing that punk pop, that punk rock type of sound back. You would never expect someone like that to do it. Because like Uzi, he does the Paramore shit too. He loves Paramore. We all grew up on Paramore. So that's fire. And it's dope because like,

The kids now, they didn't know those tracks. You know what I mean? So it's kind of like bringing it back. It's kind of like bringing it back for everybody else to enjoy. Because it's getting lost. Shout out Olivia, man. Yeah, shout out Olivia. Half Filipino. She's half Filipino, right? But yeah, there was also, you said kids. In the Kids See Ghost album, you know, Kanye, the audiophiles, some of the audiophiles are from Real Ghosts. No way. If you listen to the track, I think it's called Kids See Ghosts.

Like the screeching, you hear screeching in the background. Cause I listen to it myself. I'm like, bro, the screeching kind of like is weird. Why would they put that on a track? So they're saying that Kanye sampled actual ghost audio. Yo, that's sick. In Kitsie Ghost album. That's sick. Yeah. That's so dope, bro. Like that's some Kanye shit. Kanye's just outside of the box. I was looking at Kanye's theories. There's a whole bunch of them, bro. Like one of them is like all his tweets are in code. Damn. And shit like that. Yo, cause like.

fam i don't know if we talked about this on an episode before but do you remember in uh on the yeezus tour just before he got diagnosed with bipolar he had like he had kind of this moment on stage where he's like everybody listen to me they don't want me talking about this they're gonna kill me after this blah blah listen i'm in danger blah blah he's talking about he's exposing kind of the industry and shit damn the next day they said kanye diagnosed bipolar oh

Put that shit under the rug. Never heard about that other shit he was talking about again. It's like... He's bipolar. That's it. It's like, never mind. Excuse all the shit I was saying. It's just that I was diagnosed with that shit. Yeah. I'm telling you there's got to be something with him, bro. Because he's just... Damn. Because even...

Because Kanye is supposedly like member of the Illuminati and shit, right? Yeah. There's a theory. Someone's got to research. I don't know. I tried to research, but I couldn't find anything. What was it? But Kanye always forgets his lyrics. Why? So on SNL, on Kendall Jenner's birthday party, he performed, he forgot the lyrics. On like different types of occasions. Really? He always forgets lyrics. So there's like a theory going around that Kanye, I don't know why, but Kanye always forgets his lyrics. Damn.

People are saying like, okay, he probably has a bunch of songs. Maybe he's a robot and fucking Chris Jenner, like Chris Jenner get outed him. You know what I mean? Remember Get Out? Bro, there was a Kanye. The Kanye tweet is like, everyone knows they wrote Get Out for me. Yo. You didn't know that? No, that's so true though. That's so true. Cause even like Dave Chappelle and like, yeah, like Jordan Peele himself was talking about it. Like they'll take those people and then in those positions, like,

make them like that you know i mean like fucking brainwash them put on this whole image brainwash them to do their bidding yeah and it that kind of goes hand in hand with what we see it's just like it's not talked about i mean and i think dave chapelle said it the best he's like it's not it's not necessarily the person yeah

Maybe it's the environment that's fucked up. That they're put in? Yeah. Because that's what it is, right? It's really just the environment that fucks you up. Yeah, because he's around some shit, bro. So next time you look at somebody, think about like, okay, he's acting a certain way.

But maybe it's not his true character. Maybe it's just the environment he's put in. Because the environment you're put in makes you do certain shit you wouldn't do. Yeah. Because if you roll around with some adrenaline junkies, you're going to jump off that cliff. No matter what you say, fam, you're jumping off. Exactly. Right. That's why it's so important. Keep in mind who's around you. Keep in mind who you want influencing you because you're going to end up like them. Yeah.

If you keep like associating. Exactly. It's like those ones. It's like, okay, I'm going out with blank and your parents know who that is. Okay. Yeah. You're good. Yeah. Yeah. You're not going to around, but you're going to do it responsibly. You feel me? Yeah. Whenever I go out, I always say two names. Yeah.

And then my parents will always say Yeah go You feel me So it's a good circle I have Good shit But yeah From your childhood Do you still have your friends My childhood friends Like say Elementary school Let's say elementary Yeah Josh Josh my elementary school friend Oh yeah that's crazy I don't think I have any Of my elementary school friends Nah you did Like I know I know of them But like I don't hang out With them no more Oh okay okay But like from early Elementary school Yeah

But yo, shout out to the people that I went to. I went to elementary school in Scarborough. And then like a bunch of them like hit me up. They're like, yo, I remember you. Because they see the TikToks like, yo, you showed up my four years. I swear I remember you. Yeah. How the hell do they remember you though? Because you're still a little kid. Okay, bro. I'm going to tell you something. When I was younger, right? Yeah.

Loki, this is how I became like this. I used to tell stories like all the time in elementary school, like on the bus and shit. Like my dad picked me up from school one day and he's like, he's like, it was almost like you're Jesus. Like you have all these people around you like I'm talking. I'm telling them stories. I'm telling them my dad's jokes. I'm telling them stories and shit. And everybody else is like gathered around like...

so maybe that's where it came from i don't know maybe this was you as a kid doing this yeah i used to i used to like talk i used to they have some some dark jokes before i used to say i don't want to say them here because low-key they're outdated yeah yeah it is what it is yeah that's fine because as a kid fam i remember kindergarten my teacher was my only best friend oh yeah you told me that bro i remember at recess like kids would be playing around i would just stick with the teacher i'm like hey you want to and like whoever wanted to play with me i'm like

So you didn't get in trouble a lot? Hell no. I didn't know. The principal did not know me at all. Word. Yo, fam. I'm going to tell you a story. So first time I saw snow. I don't know if I said this before. First time I ever saw snow at school. And everybody had recess and shit. First thing I did. Snowball. And I chucked it at some kid's head.

But in my head, I'm like, that's what we're supposed to do. Yeah. Because all the cartoons we see is like, anytime you see Spongebob. Yeah. Take snowball, throw each other snow fight. You know what I mean? Snowball fight. Yeah. Any cartoon, Timmy Turner, the snowball fight. You know what I mean? So first thing I saw, I'm like, oh shit, snow. Let's go. You know what I mean? Yeah.

And then, I didn't know any better than like, damn. He started crying. Damn, bro. I'm like, oh, shit. But what was good was it was like a snow storm. So it was like snowing heavy. And you couldn't like see anywhere. You were sniper in the mist. Ghillie in the mist. Bro, and then I remember this so clearly. My teacher was like, I don't know who it was.

somebody threw a snowball at Jason's head and I'm like yo who did that bruh? Snowballs. Who's the idiot man? Come on be responsible bro. Oh my god. No I never did that bruh. Like I was so low key like inept.

In my... I don't want to get in trouble because I don't know what to do. But I remember this old... I think this is the one time I actually got in trouble. And first feeling of like, oh my god, I'm free. Yeah. So the whole field was closed because it was snowing, right? And there was a big hill that you had to get past. Yeah. So there was like 15 kids on the wall, right? Yeah. And all the kids are talking. They're like, yo, on three, we're going to run and go on the field even though it's locked and shit, right? And start throwing snowballs and shit like that. So I'm like...

I don't want to go. Like we said, you surround yourself with that environment. You're running. So everyone, three, two, one, go. I stop a bit. I'm like, fuck, do I do it? I run, right? Bro, there's a teacher. The teacher's looking at me. I push some guy. Oh, I actually got booked from it. Really? Yeah. Cause they took me to the principal's office. This is the first time I got ever taken to the principal's office. And that was the only time I, bro, of course, of course, the first time I do something like, so that's, that's what made you like, okay, I'm not doing no. Yeah. Like they called my name too. They're like, Gavin, what are you doing? I like,

Push the guy I'm a bad kid now You feel me See I think what I think what made me like Not care about shit Is just from cartoons Just from what I seen That's what I learned You know what I mean Cause if you take a If you look at like Some kids growing up now They'll say some stuff like Where did you learn that

Right? They learn it from what they watch. They learn it from like their environment. Going back to environment. Yeah. They learned it from their environment, like what they're watching on TV, what they're watching on YouTube. What were you watching that made you Phineas and Ferb? Yo, Ferb, let's do some crazy shit today. I don't know. Maybe Phineas and Ferb. Who knows? No, Loki, Phineas and Ferb, Loki like help people with their creativity. Like I swear it made kids like want to be imaginative. I feel like you read a lot. Did you read a lot going on? Yeah. I read a lot of like Archie and shit like that. Yeah.

Did you ever read those books where it's like, you know, go ahead. Yeah, go, go. No, I just, I was going to say Bone, but it wasn't. Oh yeah, Bone was fire. Bone was fire. That was a six year old. Yeah. But you ever read those books where it's like, turn the page to this and then follow the story. Turn your page to this. Would you want to go to this path or this path?

You ever read those books? It's Goosebumps Oh Goosebumps I remember that It's Goosebumps But it's like Choose your own path Yeah So I remember I used to It was like five of us In the classroom We were like Okay let's read this book Okay There's goblins down this path Blah blah blah Do you want to go to the left side Or the right side? And then we choose And then you flip the page Oh no you died You fell in a pit of Blah blah blah blah Right? Yeah

So what we ended up doing, I'm like, yo, let's make our own. So I feel like this is what, this is what triggers my, my, my creativity. Like, let's just, let's just make our own, right? Yeah. We just made our own. We're like, okay, you're, you're trapped in a locker. And then there's a, there's a lunchbox in the corner. And then there's a safe. All you have is a knife.

Which one are you gonna go open? You know what I mean? And you're like there with your friends Like yo what are we doing? Yeah So I just write this shit down Like okay Which one you picking bro? Which one you picking? And like You open the lunch box It's a bomb Boom You know what I mean? I'll be like Mog man Restart restart Yeah But yeah bro I don't know I think what also made me like hella shy You remember Pingu? Yeah

Oh the show? Pingu Pingu Yeah the show right? The penguin who never said anything Except for bop Yeah yeah yeah Or some shit like that I think that triggered my shyness Cause I didn't want to say anything Except like Really yeah? Cause I watched Pingu Oh that was your favorite? Yeah and like The trauma that still gets me today You know that He had a nightmare Of a walrus

I don't know I don't know but it was a walrus yeah it was a walrus that literally took him up and like started stretching him started like beating him up this was on a children's show yeah so I don't know why but like does that relate to obey the walrus nah okay

Yo, there's so many. I got to look into this way more, but I still haven't found the meaning to it. But there's always a reference to a walrus. So, for example, Obey the Walrus, right? Yeah, Obey the Walrus. That name already attached to a cursed video on YouTube, okay? Now, remember in Seoul, I talked about this in Seoul.

When they're going up the escalator to heaven, the person behind them was like, oh, I guess my dreams about the walrus were wrong. Wait. The walrus. I'm like, why'd they say that, right? Because they had all these people going on the escalator. They're talking about, oh, yeah, I knew it was going to be just like this, blah, blah. And then the person in the back was like, oh, I guess my dreams about the walrus were wrong. It's like walrus, right? And then in the Beatles song, I am the walrus. What the?

Nah. What does walrus mean? The Beatles song. You know that song? Yeah. You heard that name before. I am the walrus. Yeah, why is it the walrus? Why is there like a connection to like fucking dark shit? I don't think in that song there was nothing mentioned about like sea creature or anything like abnormal. Nah. It's just a regular song. It's something about like...

Like a spirit. There's a spiritual element to it. Somewhere. Like a ghost? Somewhere. Yo, that's crazy. Because Pingu in the child show. Yeah. A dream about a walrus. Bro, I have a crazy theory for you. Okay. I go. So take in. You know how they talk about unicorns in the Bible? Bag this. Unicorns, right? Mm-hmm.

They talked about unicorns in the Bible. When they described it in the Bible though, they never described it as it was a horse with a, with a fucking horn. Okay. They never described it like that. They described it as legs, like a horse, as strong as a stallion with a big horn on its head. Right. Yeah. Very strong. But if you look in the wild, there's nothing like that. And as we know, a lot of the stuff in the Bible is referenced from real things. Yeah. Real things. Yeah.

So the true unicorn was actually a rhinoceros. Oh, yeah. Because it has the horn, right? Now take this in, bro. The Leviathan. What the? The Leviathan. You know, in the Bible, Leviathan, it's like a sea creature. It was like so powerful with jaw that can kill everything, right? Yeah. Now, what's something in the wild that they may have seen to give them that reference? What is it? It's a crocodile. Oh.

It's just a crocodile. What? Yeah, it's just a crocodile. We think of Leviathan as like, oh, it's this huge, like, Kraken. You know what I mean? It's this huge thing, right? Dog, that's not real. We've never seen shit like that in the world. So what if it's just really just they described it

And it's lost in transit. It's like broken telephone. I tell you, it's like as strong as a horse, right? So as strong as a horse. Yo, it's a horse. Yeah, exactly. Now the behemoth, the behemoth, they talked about, it's like this huge mammal that was, um, it likes to, it likes to stay in the shade, right? Yeah. It's very huge. It's very big, very strong. Yeah.

Now, bro, the description of the behemoth lines up with the hippopotamus. It's just a different perspective. Yeah. So I feel like a lot of the things it's exaggerated, but there is truth to it somewhere. We just lost the original meaning. Yeah.

So why do you think that is that why they always come back to the walrus? Cause they know it's like, Oh, I don't know about the walrus. I thought all this would like, okay, it would a crocodile, but all the answers led up to the walrus. Maybe. No, actually maybe. That's why I thought you were going to. Nah. Cause the walrus has horns. Is that a walrus? That's a walrus with the,

No, but it doesn't have like a horn like this. But you see broken telephone. Broken telephone. There you go. If it says horns. Yo. Right? Yeah. But yeah, going back to the fucking Walrus video. There's another curse video that I searched up. You have another curse video? Yeah, yeah. Okay, what is it? You watched this? No, I didn't. I swear to God I didn't. Because it was so scary, fam. Like people were telling me not to watch it. There's a Japanese Kleenex ad.

that was supposed to be cursed what right a kleenex ad a kleenex ad like the tissues okay yeah so there's a 30 year old like kleenex ad that they um that they made fam that spawned all these urban legends that are still roaming around today no way yeah because in the video the lady birthed a baby what what do you mean like i didn't watch the video but i read the description so she birthed the baby in that in the ad who was supposed to be the devil the devil baby

So this devil baby, he died from a car crash and it got dismantled. So that's why it's roaming around. They showed this in the commercial? It's like a 10 minute ad. What the hell? Why would they make that? I don't know. Japan people are crazy, man. But if you really take it in, like Chinese and the Japanese... No, the Asian commercials go crazy. Are crazy. I remember seeing this one. It's like a man made out of yogurt and then he's like eating his head. I've seen that.

That was one of the most disturbing ones. He's like eating himself. It's like made out of yogurt. And he would look directly in the camera and eat it. Yeah. It was so fucked up, bro. They're just on a different level of creativity, bro. I know. We just don't understand them. Yeah, that's all it is. That's all it is. There are some next wave. Yeah. But yeah. But there's also like, I read a ghost story too. And there's this, I think it's called Teke Teke. Oh shit. That sounds scary already. Yeah. I know.

I was like, yo, Loki, when I was researching all this shit, I'm like, man, I don't want to get. All right, let's hear it. Let's hear it though. But yeah, take it, take it is literally. So this, this, um, school girl, right. Got bullied by all her friends and got tied up to a railroad track. Oh, train killed her. Yeah. Since her body was split. So she's supposed to be roaming around today. Half body with two grim Reaper knives. What the hell? So I'm reading all this shit. Like, yo, what the fuck?

Yo, when you go to Asia, there's like, all right, what do we got to look out for? Read the list, Gavin. Hachizuka-sama. All right, we got this lady. Take it, take it. Don't use Kleenexes. Yeah. Bro, what the hell? But yeah, since I low-key don't want to go to Asia now just because I read so much on that shit. Yo, okay. Now I have a theory for you. What if, going back to the broken telephone thing we were talking about, right? What if a lot of these urban legends, right?

A lot of urban legends, they say, don't do this because they might come. Right? Yeah. What if there was someone that's like evil? Yo, let's make them not do this so they come. So what if it's a twist on it? And then you're like, oh, I should never do this or I should do this when that happens. What if it's the opposite and they f***ed

f***ed it up for you so that they'll show up when you do. Okay, but you're saying this, but what if people start listening to you and they start not doing or doing the s*** that they're not supposed to do and like it actually brings it to them. Oh, okay. Yeah, that's true. That's true. So it's like, oh, don't turn your lights off at this point. But then Carlos is telling you, yeah, go do it because like it's opposite. And then they actually get f***ed up for that. Now you don't know the truth. You don't know what to do now. Your way is always thinking it's like always like, I don't know. It's like,

left field. Yeah. That's always like, I'll tell you some normal shit and then like, you'll take it some next time.

That's just so true though. But that's cool though because like people don't have that. You got to have people like that to keep your life entertaining. Yeah. Some people might call that crazy. Yeah. Well, you can't always the person who always follows rules which is me and then you person who does whatever they want is you. Well, I don't do everything. Yeah, I know. But like you'll think of it to an extent. To an extent. But yeah, I feel like just influences that we learn or how we were growing up how we were brought up

You kind of take on these like personality traits or even just like morals. We set our own morals, right? Yeah. Because not only is it your parents setting your morals, it's really you. Yeah. It's really you. You decide whether like I'm going to be like this. Because there's a lot of people that were strict, right? They were very locked down, very conservative. Oh, yeah. And then all of a sudden they get freedom. They go crazy. Yeah. I mean, they go party every day. They get into like hard drugs, blah, blah, blah. Now...

It really depends on the person what they take on. And then you get to see like different characters show up. That's why I just love talking to people. I love talking and meeting new people, seeing their walk of life. I mean, like they're going to think differently than me. I'm thinking differently from them. And we get to share experiences. We get to see their opinion on things and the way their mind works. And then what I really try and do is like I try and pick their brain and then like...

See oh Maybe I should start Thinking of stuff like that Yeah Right Yeah that's cool Cause I think When I have a kid I'ma put him In so many things Just so he can get That experience Cause like I've seen like What do you call this In swimming Cause there's mans I know now That still can't swim Type shit And whenever we go to Waterfowl They're not having fun Cause they don't know How to swim So I'm like Okay I'ma put him In swimming I feel like that's Really important In swimming Especially Yeah

And it's a life skill. It's a life skill. I remember I seen a video where they literally just drop the baby in the pool like a baby. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it would come up and float. And that's how they kind of learn. That's literally just throwing off the deep end. That's instinct though. That's instinct. They'll do that instinctively to...

go over and then open their mouth to the air. Yeah. Which is dope because that's like our survival mode. Yeah. You know what I mean? Have you ever been put in that position? Straight out the womb. Have you ever been put in that position where you just have to, I have to adapt now. Like, let me get into survival mode. Oh, okay. I don't know if I said this story, but I almost got hit by a car.

I almost got hit by a car. I was just walking down the road. And then this car almost hit me. It was coming straight at me. Now they say when you get into these moments, you're either a fight or flight. A lot of people are a fight. A lot of people are a flight. Now until that moment comes, you don't know really what you're going to do. That moment came that day. That moment came that day. I saw this threat. I thought I was going to die. And then I'm like, someone's trying to kill me. So I'm going to fight them. So I'm like...

I'm getting ready because I thought someone was trying to like attack me with their car, hop out and then punch me, whatever. Right. So I'm like, I'm getting ready to fight. This guy came out of the car and he's like, oh, I'm so sorry. Blah, blah. Are you okay? Yeah. I'm like, damn, I thought you were trying to kill me. Like I thought we're going to fight now. I'm like, damn, I guess my mind is set into that mode where it's like, I'm fight mode. I'm not flight mode. But I think it depends on what the situation is. Cause like if I see in, um,

like a ghost i'm running yeah i'm out of there bro yeah yeah yeah okay yeah that's that's cool because i have a similar story but like it was flight mode okay so i remember buying this phone yeah off of let go right and let go is already a really sketch sketch as hell so the guy hits me up very good deal meet me at the back of the school yeah okay i'm like okay let me go with my dad right so this is what happens we meet them at the back of the school and

Boom. They show us the phone, but they don't show... We ask for shit. We're like, yo, can we see receipts for this? Can we see receipts for this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't give it. So this is what happens. The guy goes down...

on his one knee and starts tying his shoes. Oh, red flag, man. Deadass, deadass. And I'm in the car and my dad is only out there. But me being in the car, it's, it's dad, get out of there. Yeah. Right. But my dad's staying there like, like, okay, like if shit goes down, like he might fight, bro. Yeah. So I have to get out the car. But like, if that situation happened, bro, I might have to go out there and fight. But at that moment, I'm like, dad, get out of there. Yeah. And the deal never happened because my dad just walked away. He's like, nope, I know this is like some stolen phone. You can't get me with that.

But if that was me by myself, I don't know what I would have done, to be honest. Word. If he was on the ground, I would have low-key started kicking. But I don't know what he was going to do. Yeah, you don't know, right? Yeah. Damn. It takes those moments to realize what you're going to do, eh? Yeah. And it's so quick. That's why you train for that shit. You know what I mean? You know those Krav Maga people? Old Krav Maga, fam? They train for the gun pointed to your head and shit. Yeah. But then... You've seen the kid where it's like,

Yeah. She's like, that kid is dead. R.I.P. But then like, then like, you don't know if that shit's gonna work until it happens. Yeah. You know? Cause, cause your instinct isn't telling you to like, Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's why sometimes I roast the karate mans cause like, in a fight when they're doing their patterns, like, you're not busting out during a fight doing your patterns. You feel me? That's so true. It's so true. You're just gonna swing. But it is, it is like, I guess it's form at the same time. Yeah. But,

fam just wanted to spar that's what i'm saying like if i get into a street fight low-key man i would just start jumping around and kicking because that's all i know yeah but if you ever get in a street fight and you're outnumbered yeah just cut really it's not worth it's not worth fighting it's never worth fighting it's only worth fighting if well you have something to fight for what are you fighting for right are you fighting for your life are you fighting to impress somebody are you fighting to what

prove something yeah nah at the end of the day you only fight if you have something you're fighting for yeah bro and then like i was cornered before in toronto i was with my um my cousin yeah and we got cornered by like these four dudes yeah they gave me the yo yo nice shoes bro what size are they i'm like off right so i'm sitting there i'm like and my cousin tells me give him your shoes bro it's not worth your life so i take off my shoes give it to them word i walk home with no shoes damn seriously i never heard this yeah

Shit bro But like Some people are so stupid enough That like Nah bro like Shoot me from my shoes Like what fam Like give your shoes away dog My cousin's way more Street shamer than me He's like just take it Yeah it depends Yeah if you're in a position Where like What are you gonna do Yeah If you're outnumbered Be smart Yeah it was 2 on 4 It was 2 on 4 Yeah if it's something like that

You know? What are you gonna do? Unless you get them like off guard But like shit That's why I'm like I don't wanna risk my life Just cause I'm shoes bro Yeah just be safe Be safe Be smart Most thing Real shit Always Real shit Or just start screaming Yeah just start screaming Cause lowkey If I'm in that position I'm just like Ah

This guy's weird. Let's leave him alone. Yo, one way... Okay, this is kind of a life hack. This might not work with everybody. But if you ever get in a position where you're outnumbered, one way you can like...

push them away or like get them away from you. Yeah. It's just can flare your arms everywhere. Be unpredictable. You look like a threat, fam. Cause if you ever see like a buck tea, bam, those buckies that swing wildly, you're kind of like, you don't want to, you don't want to fight them already. Yeah. So if you see somebody like that, like, Oh shit,

Yeah, I'm just... Yeah, Loki, you're right. Because you can't f*** with Loco. Like, if you're like Loco, you're like, whoa. Yeah, nothing to lose. Like, he's not right in the head. Then I don't even want to fight you no more. Yeah, Black Earth was nothing to lose, fam. Yeah.

That's crazy. But yeah, good life hack to end it off. All right, let's end it there. Yeah, fam. All right, thank you everyone for watching today's episode. Any announcements? I'm starting my Twitch soon. Just be on the lookout for that. All the equipment's coming in. Stay tuned for Gavin's Twitch. Stay tuned for my channel. I'm going to drop this month. I'm going to drop this month. I'm going to drop Nostalgia Trippin' first episode, so stay tuned for that. And yeah, Jumpers Jump out. Deuces.