EP.47 - THE AFTERLIFE THEORY, MANIFESTATION, & USING ANPHANTASIA w/ Emson Mallari
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No, but you're lucky though, because Filipinos, I feel like we have a cap, bro. On our height? 5'8". Nah, it's either like 5'8", 5'9". That's it. 5'9", the tallest. Yeah, I don't know. Well, my dad's side was tall. Tall. How tall is your dad right now? He's like 5'11". He was 5'11". Yeah.

You can cut that out. It's all good. It's all good, yo. It's all good. How tall is your mom? My mom was like, I'm going to say 5'6". I feel like my mom manifested this shit, though. Yeah? Because as a kid, she would always be like, you're going to get so tall. You're going to be over 6'0". Oh, that's how? 100%. That's how, bro. And then I remember it clearly as day. We were at a Walmart when she was telling me that. Because I did grow a little bit taller than my cousins, like faster. But I was still shorter than all the girls in elementary.

right that's just how i feel interesting so like i grew up faster than like my cousins and taller right and so we were at a walmart one time and then she said that she's like you're gonna grow over six foot you can reach over all the shells right yo she manifested that she manifested that shit because she would always say it like every time and then i think it led to me manifesting that because when when she said that in walmart i would visualize myself like tall and every time i went to a grocery store i would visualize myself as being tall reaching over shit yeah and then i would always pray pray i was like yo i'm

I better be successful. That's how it happened, bro. That's how it happened. Did you drink like lots of milk and shit? I drank hella milk. That's like the Filipino thing, bro. Like you have to drink bare milk so you grow. If you drink hella milk, you get strong bones and you're gonna get hella tall. So I drank like three cups a day. Word. That's a lot. Crazy shit is like I used to do that shit. No effect, right? Yeah. I'm lactose as fuck.

I don't know what happens, but like there's a certain age when you're Asian that you just like, it's just like, I think everybody, like almost all Filipinos, I swear. Not even just Filipinos. I feel like a lot of people are like Asians. Yeah. Like hella Asians, but even some like just,

People of color in general, I feel like are more so prone to being lactose for some reason. Yeah. Why is that? I think I read up on this like, like a long time ago. It was like, because I'm in like Asia or like East Asia, Southeast Asia. Yeah. We're used to drinking like goat milk and other animals milk. But like in America, they started drinking cow milk. So it's different. Like the consistency or whatever it is. That's crazy. I didn't know that.

I'm not sure if that's true Goat milk Yeah yeah I don't even know Like we use goat milk Like that in Filipino food though Do we? I don't think so Do we? Well I don't know If we use it in food But I remember like Our ancestors would like Drink it You know what I'm saying Oh yeah Not like the generation Before us You know what I mean But like from time ago Like over time Evolution It was like

Yeah, I... It changes our body. I heard, like, we're not supposed to eat even peanuts. For real? Like, the original human, we're supposed to be allergic to peanuts. We're supposed to be allergic to milk. We're supposed to be allergic to so many other things. But just, like, through genetics changing, our body's changing. Like, we change and we can, like, handle it now. See, but I feel like as, like, the first generation of humans, I guess, like, what are you supposed to eat? You know, like, how do you figure out that, like, yo, that's a cow? Yeah. Yo, I'm gonna milk it, yo. Yeah.

Whoever came up with drinking milk from a cow is a horny ass. And then they're like, yo, let's milk it. Yo, why not eat it, bro? I feel like they were eating it first, no? I don't know. Probably. They're probably eating it. And then like the milk shits like squirted out. They're like, yo, is this like, like, you know, like a Boston cream donut? Yeah. So they were eating the cow and there was like that cream in the middle. And they were like, yeah, we could drink this. Yeah.

Yo, man. No, no, no. But do you think they would have figured out reproduction before figuring out the cow? Like, what do you mean? Like, oh, like, like reproducing the cow? No, reproducing like humans, like fucking. Before? So they would, they probably know what like cum is before milk. Oh,

Yo, first of all, how did, okay, like, how did you, like, discover that reproduction, yo? You're just like, yo, this. Nah, I feel like naturally, the first humans, they would know right away. Like, yo, you have a hole and I have something to fit in that hole. Let's see what it unlocks.

that's probably no because we already had that urge already yeah like every guy every girl that we have that urge like scientifically so i feel like no matter what it's just gonna find its way that's true yeah it's gonna find its way so out so that that's what i'm saying so what if they saw the cow like damn we need more of these cows what if if i take that cow and put it in me and it creates like more cow that's how they thought that's that's that's a good deduction right yeah

Yo, because I heard these... I heard these stories... Fuck, this is kind of dark, but... It's all good. I heard these stories of, like, these shorties, like, mess with horses, bro. That's, like, a thing on the dark web. I've heard that, yo. Because, like, the horse cock, bro? That shit is, like...

That's just my arm. That's my arm, bro. No, like your whole arm. Like this. And people mess with that, yo. But people are like that, though. And it's so weird because I feel like it's so interesting to see people like get to that point. Yeah. How do you get to that point of like because in infancy, we all basically start at the same level of like mental capacity, basically as a baby.

mean it could be different between people but like in general everybody's the same like dumb baby right yeah yeah so what steps in their life did it take to get to the point where like yo that horse looking kind of nice you know what it was though it's definitely just they they seen porn yeah and then that wasn't enough for them because i feel like those people that are addicted to porn addicts yeah they keep like going to the next level what's the next level it's like

Hey let me get this free shit Only fans Damn I don't wanna pay And then they pay for the first time They're like Yeah Okay but I need more And so they start paying Like people to To watch To watch people I'm pretty sure Porn has the same effect on our brain As crack cocaine I'm

I heard that before too. Yeah. Because it's bad for you, right? Obviously. It's dopamine. It's dopamine at the end of the day. It's an increased level of dopamine that we're not supposed to have. Like we're basically hacking our brains to get more dopamine. Yeah. To get more chemicals. That's what drugs are. Drugs aren't putting new chemicals in your body. It's enhancing the chemicals that are already within you. Exactly. A lot of people don't understand that though. A lot of people don't understand. It just activates what's already here. Yeah. Yeah. Which is nuts because like DMT basically and like shrooms, they're just...

putting your brain on fire basically yeah so it's literally showing us everything that's already here yeah because that's what's crazy when i when i look into these stories of hallucinations under dmt or ayahuasca ayahuasca dmt um mushrooms they all say like what if this is a filter everything's already here it just shows me no that's what i'm saying so like okay i have like this crazy like idea i got this from my from my homegirl kira shout out kira but we were talking in the car one day and we were like what if black is a color that we just can't see yet

So if you really beg it, because like you said, like there's a filter, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you know how we see like only a certain percentage of or like a certain percent of light or something or certain lights like ultraviolet we can't see or something like that. So what if black is actually a color? It's just we don't have like the cones or rays in our eyes to be able to see what color that is. So it presents us as black, but it's actually something else that we can't imagine. Because if you really beg it, you can't imagine a new color.

Yeah, no, that's fact. You can't because everything's already there. Yeah. So what if it's just a color that we just haven't unlocked? Yo, okay. To add on to that, right? When you close your eyes, what do you see? See? Okay. Okay. I do this with everybody. Yeah. So when I close my eyes, genuinely, I see like blackish gray, but close one eye and then try looking through that eye that you close. That's what it feels like to see nothing, bro.

Oh, shit. No, no, no. But look, every time I close my eyes at night or I go to sleep, I always see colors. Do you not see colors? I see like, it's like pixelated. It's like pixels. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean, right? Like pixels on a TV type shit. Yeah, it's like pixels but like patterns sometimes and it's like weird shapes. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Bro, so I'm wondering because a lot of DMT experiences, they talk about these geometric patterns, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And different colors. And different colors and shit. What if it's already there? It's literally right here. It just needs to

It's just enhanced, yo. It's just enhanced. But why do you think we don't have it all unlocked right away? I don't know. Like, why isn't it given to us right now? Because, yo, sometimes, I'm not going to lie, sometimes when I'm really, really tired, I could really see full patterns, bro. When I close my eyes, when I'm really sleepy. Actually, I feel that sometimes too. Or when I used to do this as a kid, I used to look at the sun. Like,

stare at it. Oh, that's bad. That's probably why I need glasses now. But I used to stare at it because like, you know how you get the after image of the sun or like any light, you get the after image, right? So before I used to stare at the sun, I would get like the after image and then it came to a point where I would stare at it and close my eyes and the after image would move around and they would create like

energy around it and it's yeah i don't know if that was just like me as a kid just like imagining and visualizing but that's what i remember from what i was seeing because a lot of things when you see as a kid we it's hard to explain at the time until we're older right because we don't understand you know what you know when you when you sometimes like

look around and you see those little kind of like a blur. I'm going to put it on screen. It's like those like, it looks like cells. Yeah. It looks like a microscope, bro. I thought I was the only person to ever see that, but I looked into it, I think two years back because I saw it on Twitter. Someone was like, yo, y'all, anyone else see this shit? It's exactly what I saw. I think it's like microscopic dirt in our eye. Oh, it's dirt. That just like moves around or it might be dirt or it might be just something in our eye that we just see like something.

that's crazy we just see but i thought it was so weird i was like yo am i like unlocking something right now like am i seeing things that i don't like i've never seen before yo did you know there's like there's microscopic living germs on our face yeah like this and they zoom in on it they use like a microscope bro they look scary but that's all over our body there's like parasites there's everything in our body yeah even on our i'm pretty sure our eyelashes there's like some type of like um

What is it? Like a mite? Yeah, there's a mite. Yeah. I saw that on Twitter too. Yo, man. Like, but if you think about it, like our body just houses like a whole universe. Yeah. Like, you know how we like humans, we inhabit earth. Like our cells are like the humans and we're the earth. Like our body's the earth. Our body's like earth. Yeah. And then all of the little microscopic bones.

beings life cells and shit so do you think those microscopic life cells and shit have their own like life in our body probably bro like like there's this anime it's called cells at work it basically just like they just made the characters like white blood cell red blood cell yeah just going throughout their day what if it's like that yo i think it is i think it is are you like our universe is just within us yo because because what if this what if this whole earth right now what if this whole universe is part of somebody's body or we're just a cell

yo no because i i think i seen a i seen a tiktok on it it's like the universe and the whole galaxy put together is like a nucleus of a cell it looks like it looks like it and it's all and we're just powering like a super human being bro like we're not even human beings because if you think about it like looking at an anthill yeah if you put a lamp beside an anthill yeah all the

ants they're gonna think that shit's the sun yeah you know i mean they don't know like they're not gonna understand it not gonna understand so what if that's for us like we don't understand the sun what the fuck is the sun yeah but it has like a huge meaning yeah we just can't comprehend it because in science everything is just theory nothing is proven nothing's ever a fact so like

Who's to say? Like, no one's ever seen it in person. Yeah. You know, we've only seen it through lenses, through cameras, but things could be shifted through space because we don't even know how space operates. So light could be shifted in a certain way. What if it's not even circles? You know what I'm saying? Yeah, exactly. Some people think it's flat, bro. Or it's probably some guy on like a far planet with a hella bright flashlight, bro.

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Because we don't really bag like how, how small we are. Yeah. Because we think the whole world is made for us. Yeah. But there's other planets and there's other things way bigger than us, bro. Just even look at storms, fam. Yeah. Just look at storms and natural disasters. Like that's living proof the world will move around without us. It doesn't care about humans. People say like too, like if the bees went extinct, um,

all of humanity would go extinct. Yeah. But if humans went extinct, everything else would flourish. Oh, that's so true. Because if you really beg it, like climate change and all these natural or not natural, like natural things like happen because of us. Yeah. Because of pollution. Yeah. Pollution. We're over mining. We're like deforestation. Even overfishing. Yeah. Taking too many resources that we don't need.

because of what? Like, just consumerism in general. You know what I mean? Like, fast fashion. You know what I'm saying? Like, people are making bare clothes for like, for what? And then they just throw them out. You know what I mean? I think I talked about this before, but I always bring it back to like, greed, bro. Yeah, bro. It's always like that. It's always greed. And it's almost like a virus in and of itself. Like, somebody's greedy to one person.

And then because of them taking away their stuff, they become greedy themselves. Because they're like, okay, well, if this guy... And it's also like jealousy and revenge, you know what I mean? Yeah. Because if someone's greedy, they take away from you, then you're like, well, this guy took away from me, that means I got to take away from somebody else. Yeah, exactly. But it's not going to stop if you keep...

If he keeps doing that, it's not going to stop. You know what I'm saying? I know. And that's the shitty part. That's kind of like, that's kind of like a man getting his heart broke, bro. Yeah, yo. If you think about it, every single guy at one point in their life, they were a good guy first. Yeah. That's what I believe. I believe everybody was a good guy first before they became like a fuckboy or a dickhead. Yeah.

no, I don't feel that. Cause they get their heart broke, bro. Cause look, let's say a guy treats a woman like super nice. Like this is, this is a serious topic. A lot of people talk about this, but let's say a guy gets his heart broke. He was treating her so well. If he gets treated bad, he's going to change his mind. Like, okay, maybe this shit doesn't work anymore. So he has to switch and use what does work. And sometimes what does work is be the,

bad boy. But that's the thing though. Like some of these nice guys though, they're not actually nice, yo, because if you really beg it, they're just like doing these things out of like expectation, like to get something back from me, you know what I mean? But is that really nice then? Are they actually nice at first? Yeah. That's just what they're taught though. You just don't know better, you know what I'm saying? They think like, oh, if I open the door for her, if I buy her dinner, then she'll date me.

It's like, nah, nobody's ever like entitled to you. You're not entitled to anybody else. It's the movies. They teach you that. And there's never been a movie where like there's a guy who does all this stuff and then he just gets rejected. And that's it. They become a sim. And like, if anything, if it does happen in the movies, they end up together at the end. Yeah. I mean, there's no realism in movies and that's fine. But I mean, like it changes society. Exactly. It forces all of the males to follow that. Yeah.

And then become, this is what the world is now. Yeah. And people, people always say like, nah, just don't listen to the movies. But like, once you have like 50,000 movies and shows just coming at you, like on a day to day in a passive way, like where you just don't even notice, like over the years, your brain is going to like rewire itself to think that's how the world works. No, that's facts. Because like, if you think about it, even with like brand sponsorships and promos, like sometimes promo isn't even just like straight up, Hey guys, buy this bag, buy this t-shirt from this company. Sometimes it's just brand placement. You just put it in the back.

Yeah. Or like, I think you said it in like a podcast where they put Red Bull cans in like a dumpster to see like, oh, people are drinking this energy drink. They're subconscious. Yeah. And maybe that's like, that's what the movies are doing. They're subconsciously implementing these ideas that we see and then it rewires our brain to think a certain way. Yeah. So maybe that's how the government be controlling us though.

Yo! Because look, look, look. I always bring it back to scarcity. Yeah. Because I feel like everything, whether it be relationships, whether it be consumerism, it goes down to scarcity and insecurity. So people, big corporations, the big bosses, CEOs, they'll take advantage of your insecurity. Facts, facts. So listen, listen. Yo, this is some dark game. This is some dark game. But they used to say like, if you ever want a girl to fall in love with you, attack their insecurity, fam.

Yo, that's dark. It's so dark, bro. That's toxic behavior right there. It's toxic, man. That's some future-lations right there. No, but if you bag it, look, if you take this in, a relationship is based off what, bro?

Is low-key based off insecurity? Insecurity, yeah. You're finding things in somebody else that you don't have. Exactly. That you're lacking. And you provide something that they're lacking. Exactly. Fam, the concept of marriage, bro, is based off insecurity because you want to hold them down because you don't think you're going to find somebody else like them ever again. Or you don't want them to find somebody else that's not you. Exactly. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. Exactly.

You know, that's why, like, for me personally, like, obviously in the future I would totally get married, you know, but it's not like, it's not the thing that holds it down. Yeah. Like, I hold it down. She holds it down for herself. I hold it down for myself and then we just come together. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I feel like marriage is just that, like, title. You know what I mean? It is just the title. But at the same time, it's also, like, some people's religion. Like, marriage is part of that, like, their religion. So, like, it means, it proves their commitment. It proves their, you know what I mean? Like, their trust with each other.

It's a sacrament It's a sacrament Which is totally fine Like I totally get that And totally respect it But for me like personally Like it's always been Kind of like The idea of it It's just been like Okay it's just there But that doesn't I think our generation We don't even want to get Married anymore Like if you really bag it Like my parents Back when they got married They were only like early 20s

Oh really? Yeah. Like I'm like 21 and I'm like not thinking about any of that. Not thinking about kids, not thinking about family, not thinking about having this. I'm thinking about like, you know, just like being happy, doing my thing, trying to travel. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it wasn't like that before though. Cause before it was a different life. Everybody, it was kind of like a formula. Like you get your job, you get a family, you have a small house, whatever it may be. And then like,

white picket fence yeah american dream right but now the world's changed it's always changing they didn't have social media we have social media now we can take advantage of opportunities that weren't there yeah and being an influencer is literally a valid career now like that's not that's not heard of before yeah like back when we were in elementary like oh i want to be a youtuber it's like

It's like, wow. It's like, okay. Oh, yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like now there's kids, like if you ask kids what they want to be when they grow up, they don't say like astronaut, lawyer, doctor. They're like, no, I want to be like a YouTuber. I want to be a Twitch streamer. I want to be a podcaster. Yeah. Which is dope. I love that because it allows you to truly do what you want.

Exactly. I love that.

Like how would you how would you promote it? Yeah, you and you would need like the most back then like it gear itself Would it do a crazy amount of money? It's gear is so accessible now like professional grade gear is so accessible Nice cameras nice mics are like you can get for less than a grand. Yeah. Yeah in total like I like these mics They're pretty affordable, right? Yeah. Yeah, they're not that expensive. Like they're not terrible. They do the same job as

as the professionals exactly sometimes that's all you need yeah that's all you need and then that's what that's what it proves like you don't need the best gear to just to start to be great you know you don't need the best gear to start and you don't need the best gear to see where your talent comes out exactly i think i forgot who said it but it's like you don't need to be great to start you need to start to be great yeah exactly it might have been michael jordan might have been i don't know that's some real shit though yeah that is some real shit because if you don't start you're never gonna

Yeah. And that's, I feel like that's always been my issue over the years. Like analysis always leads to paralysis. I'm always thinking about my moves. I'm always trying to plan it, but it's like you can plan and plan all you want, but unless you attack, you're never going to get a hit. Hmm.

you know what i'm saying yeah cliche you miss 100 of the shots you don't take and that's facts it's it's factual it's facts and like you just have to like you just have to do it you know i mean i get it though like people are scared to follow their dream or their passion because you know like parents asian like asian families like that's such a common thing like they're

parents they don't want to take risk yeah they don't want to take risk but it's like your parents came here to give you the opportunity to take that risk why not take it you know what i'm saying i feel for my parents the older i get i feel for my mom you know i'm saying like she definitely had dreams that she wanted to pursue when she was younger you know she probably wanted to be like a cook or like a singer you know what i mean but it's like she did what she needed to to survive so she did what she needed to you know like put food on the table keep the lights on she's not thinking about that

Because they didn't have those opportunities that we have. They didn't have that luxury. And if we're not taking that shit, then we're kind of like leaving it out. Exactly. What's it for then if we're not using it? Yeah. If you just play it safe. Exactly. Like, what are you doing? You know what I'm saying? Like, you have like, choice is one of the biggest blessings that we have that we take for granted. Mm-hmm.

To be able to choose what we want to do with our lives. It's so like, it's such a big blessing. If you think about it, like there's mad people in the world, over half, maybe like 80% of the population don't have that right to choose or don't have that freedom of choice to be who they want to be or do what they want to do. So like, that's why I don't know. Like, that's why I just don't see myself like working nine to fives anymore or like doing any of that stuff anymore.

Because you don't want to work hard for somebody else. You want to work hard for yourself. For myself. And just like, I don't know, just like in general, if you really just look at life, you know, it's long, but it's short. It's short. It's low-key short. It's short, but if you're living in it, if you're actually living in it and looking around and really just taking it all in, you can live a long...

Good long life. Because if you really think about it, whenever somebody has like, this is what I noticed like recently. Yeah. When everybody suddenly dies like prematurely and didn't get to do much with their life, they always say, oh, life is so short. You never know what's going to happen to you. Right. But when somebody has a life of like accomplishments and just them being happy doing what they love, they're always like, damn, he lived such a long, amazing life. Yeah, that's true. Kobe. That's so true. Like what? He died when he was 40. Yeah. That's still considered short. Considered short. But then people always said like, yo, Kobe lived like a long,

amazing life because he's accomplished so much and that's why i feel like our lives aren't based on our years it's based on what we've done bro we've done exactly the more you've done the more you age so like if you really beg it kobe was already like probably 100 years old in his like oh you mean in his in a sense of like how much he's done how much he's accomplished exactly like oh that's what you said though kind of but yeah like based on accomplishments kobe was already like a veteran yeah yeah but the same person could be 40 and still be an infant

yeah he's like a rookie yeah because there's there's a hell of people too that like like you know like you have those friends who kind of just don't think at the same level as you yet yeah yeah they're not quote-unquote like woke i hate that term i hate that term but they don't see it yeah yeah not matured yet they're still in that like high school mentality and that's that's fine because everybody grows at a different mental like speed you know i'm saying but it just it sucks when like you're such good friends with them but they just can't keep up with you anymore

Yeah. I mean, I want to do other things you're not interested in. Exactly. And it's not like we're not friends anymore, but it's just like, okay, I just got to move on from this relationship. It was good while we had it. I'm still your homie. You know what I'm saying? But it's just hard to be around anymore. It's not like you're forcing yourself to, to leave that person. It just happens over time. Yeah. That's life though. Like you're going to grow out of certain people. You're going to grow out of certain things you were into before. Yeah. There's hella things I used to be into that I used to think were my dreams that aren't anymore.

You know Like before I used Before all this like TikTok Social media stuff I wanted to be A movie director Yeah yeah I still wanna do that But you know what I mean Like when I was growing up I always thought like I wanted to do something big You know what I mean I wanna be singer I wanna be dancer I wanna be movie director Yeah Just cause that's what I consumed You know Like

As a kid I watched Hella Michael Jackson Elvis And just hella movies Like growing up Yeah So then I took that As a childhood And I was like Why can't I do something with this And so I always saw myself As like Okay maybe I want to do Movie direction Maybe I want to be Behind the scenes And then as I got older I was like You know what Maybe I want to be In front of the camera Not really behind the scenes Yeah

And then now I'm like in front of the camera. It changes, right? It changes. I wish I could be the cameraman and the actor at the same time, which is what I do. But still, it's not you can't do it at full capacity. I mean, that's what they say. A lot of creative people, they really want to be in control of everything. Yeah. They want to be in control of everything. But our body can't handle it. It can't. I mean, our mind can't handle every single thing. But I really want to try and like be the front man.

The man behind the scenes. The one writing the script. Screenwriter, producer, director, film guy. Well, you can't live like that. That's what sucks. But that's what I learned over the years. It's okay to ask for help. You know what I mean? And that's why it's so important to just find the right help. And then you can just teach it to them. Because if you're able to teach everything that you know to somebody, then they know everything you know. Plus, they know what they know. So then you don't even realize that they're doing the job that you've envisioned better.

Sometimes, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like sometimes let's say like I have an idea or like the other week I went to, I went to do a modeling gig in New York and I always thought like, okay, cause I used to do photography too, right? Yeah. And I always thought like, oh, this is the way to do it. This is how I want my pictures taken. This is how I want to pose. Like as soon as I walked into the room, everything was just off the table. I was rookie. And then having these people do it for me, I realized like, damn, this is how I want it to look. Mm.

This is not what I envisioned in my head, but this is how I want it to look. It's somebody else doing it. Because they're on the outside, they can see in. And you just need to trust that. That's why you need a team that you can trust. Sometimes you want to do everything by yourself, but you really can't. And that's human nature, though. Humans aren't meant to do things alone. Humans aren't meant to be alone. We're one of the only species... I don't know. I want to say the only species. I say every species in the world actually just doesn't want to be...

By themselves Or can't operate by themselves But it depends Cause some people do love being alone Some people are that lone wolf That's true Some people do love being alone But is it because like They just haven't been Exposed enough To the right people That they wanna be with Mmhmm

You know what I'm saying? Cause there are lone. I think there really are lone wolves in the world though. Like there are some people that can't live with anybody else. Like they have to grind. They have to work by themselves. It's a lonely world though, bro. I know. But that cause, cause we're, we're like that. We love people. We love people. But some, some people don't work well with others. Yeah. But like maybe they just haven't found the right person that they, they haven't found the right person that makes them feel like I don't want to be alone anymore. You know what I mean? Sometimes you just have to find her people. So you think every pack,

No, but there are lone wolves though. Like lone wolves in nature. Like there's a pack. That's true. A pack of wolves. And then there's the lone. But who does better? The lone wolf or the pack? Depends. Depends. Well, it depends what your perception of better is. Okay. Let's say, okay, that's true. That's right. That's fair. That's fair. Because what if that lone wolf, right? He has his plan and he accomplishes his goal. His goal doesn't appeal to the group, right? That's true. And he doesn't have to worry about whether the group agrees with whatever he does. So his form of success depends.

is not the same as the group of wolves does not have to worry about their opinion does not have to worry about their judgment whatever his success is his success his sex is his success

His success is his success, but that's it. That's all it's going to be. You know what I mean? It's like, okay, I accomplished this. Now what? No, but at the end of the day, look, look, we all die alone, fam. That's true. If you bag it, we all die alone. We're in the grave alone, fam. Yeah. But I don't know. For me, like, we die alone, but mentally we don't because we have the memories of everybody that's, like, been around us from time. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? Because some people theorize death is just...

After death You live in your memories Yeah I said that I said it before Yeah Really Cause I think it actually is If you lived a good life If you lived happiness If you lived Doing good things Around the world Your afterlife Will be good Yeah But if you'd done evil shit Like you were a serial killer

It's going to be bad. It's going to be bad. It's going to be a nightmare. That's all that's in your head. So that's what I'm saying. Like, do we really die alone then? You know what I mean? Because we die with the memories of people with us. You know what I'm saying? Physically, we do die alone. But spiritually and mentally, we don't. Because I like to say this a lot. People say like, you know how like people are on their spiritual journeys and stuff? Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't believe that we're humans on a spiritual journey. I believe that we're spirits on a human journey.

If you really bag it. No, I think that's true. Yeah. Because like, this is just like a vessel. Yeah, it is a vessel. Like Orochimaru and Sasuke, you know what I mean? Like, he's just trying to get in this man's body. That's his next vessel. I feel like that's where like, we have so many, like humans have so many like, just abilities to do things, but just can't because of this thing.

this vessel that we have. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like what we were saying earlier, like we want to do everything and we have like so many ideas and we think of certain things. There's limitations. There's limitations. It's physical limitations that we just can't do yet. So maybe we're just like spirits that are just going from vessel to vest to vessel, finding that perfect vessel that can, that can like withstand our full capacity of our, like our spirit, our mentality, our soul. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So you believe in a reincarnation then? See, like, I don't know if I would say it as reincarnation, but,

Consider reincarnation But like It is In a way That is That kind of concept is Yeah cause your spirit's Just going to somebody else But it's just like You just forget Your whole past life Type thing You know what I mean Yeah but that's scary bro I hate that idea Of like forgetting everything I hate It scares me man Yeah Like I don't think death

Itself scares me It's the whole like Idea that There's gonna be nothing after The reactions of it Yeah You know what I mean Because it's just like Man if you think about it Like people actually think Like when you die Like it just goes black And nothing happens That's sad bro I know bro That's the saddest thing To think about Because it's just like Then what's Then what's the point Mmhmm

you know what i'm saying but maybe like because we don't know what if that is true what if that is true then the point is this bro the point is this like right now the moment right now and that's why i always tell people like man just do what makes you happy bro because like you just you just don't know like that's the biggest secret of life that we're never gonna like find out is that what happens after death yeah you know what i'm saying but my theory is just like we're just our souls are just boundless you know i mean we're just gonna keep traveling throughout the universe till we just like i don't even think we're gonna find a perfect body either

Do you think, because I said this before in another episode, but do you think we could reincarnate not just on this planet, but another? Oh, for sure. I feel like we're not even reincarnating in this universe or dimension. Mm.

I feel like we can like transcend into different things. Yeah. I remember I was having this like episode when we was it was like quarantine. You know what I mean? Yeah. In my head, I was just like, man, like I was just thinking so deep. And in my head, I was just like, like, you know how T'Challa in Black Panther said, he's like, death is not the end. It is only a new beginning or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So like, what if what if it is that like what if like when we do die, our spirits just find a new place to transcend to?

What if we're not, what if we don't even like reincarnate into human or something living? We're just in like a spiritual dimension. So yeah, something we don't understand. Something we just don't, a transcendence, a transcendence, right? Like the way that we can't imagine a new color. We can't imagine that life because we've never seen it or we don't understand it. You know what I mean? Yeah. We can't comprehend any of that. Cause it's just going to be like, well, what would you consider a spirit dimension? Like we don't even know. What is that? What is that? The only thing you can imagine is like from what you see on TV, like, like the, the,

waves of air like moving around you know like the colors shadow realm you know what I mean but there's no words that can describe what we're gonna see exactly cause we don't even know what we're gonna see yeah exactly that's scary bro it is scary I think you told me a story before how like you reincarnated like in a dream oh

Oh, yeah. Okay, so. Yo, tell that story right now, bro. I forgot. It was after an episode. I DM'd you, like, right away. Yeah. It was after Josh's episode because he had a similar experience. Yeah, something like that. Yeah, so I DM'd this guy. I was like, yo, crazy thing. I have a story to tell you. Okay, so. Just trying to remember right now. Okay, so this was probably one of the most intense dreams I've ever had in my life. So basically, it's, I can't really describe it, like, perfectly, but in the dream, I remember I was holding hands with somebody. It was a shorty, for sure. Yeah. And then we were looking at, like,

this we were just looking at a building we were looking at the skyline like we knew it was like it was over yeah right and then boom building blows up and then the wave of fire blows past me but i don't die everything just turns black you know what i mean yeah and then like i feel my body just my body's in that wisp of black it's like you're just in an all black room and you can just see my body and then like this outline of a door opens and then it says there's like a sign on top i forgot what the sign said but i felt a deity like saying like it's time to move on to the next part

And I was like, what? And then the name of the person I was reincarnated to opened. The sign changed into his name. Oh, shit. I forgot the name, but it was like something Fitzgerald or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I saw like beyond the door, it was like a snowy, like it looked like just snowy hills and just blizzards and stuff. And he's like, it's time to go. I was like, no, no, like, no, it's not my time. Yeah. I need my memories. This is like everything to me. And then I fucking went through the door and I was a different person. Then I woke up crying, bro.

bro damn heavy and it was so intense it's so hard to sometimes it's so hard to think if something's a dream or not when it feels that intense you know i mean yeah yeah yeah because if you think about it like dreams are can you dream things you haven't seen before yes for sure you think so actually no no because because in a sense everything we do dream is inspired right yeah because that's what's crazy because a lot of people we have similar dreams like you know you know those pictures of like why does this place look familiar yeah and it shows like an

empty like room or whatever it may be bro and we all have similar things so what if it's connected somehow that's what i'm saying like what if the dream world is its own dimension and falling asleep is the way our souls just go there okay what if what if right because i always think about this what if people get reincarnated but they don't get reincarnated at birth they get reincarnated and put into that body like midway through like like

like tomorrow somebody else is in your body someone else is playing the controller yeah it's like a game where there's like two controllers but then you switch they picked it up they picked it up but we don't know any different fam we don't know any different because like we just know the carlos experience that's true empson experience that's all we know yeah like playing gta that gta character doesn't know somebody else is playing him yeah it could be somebody else could be somebody else the next day and we we have no proof of telling if that's true or not okay i

Crazy theory. Like, I kind of like made this one up by myself. Kind of. It's kind of inspired by a movie. Do you know Arrival? Yeah. With the aliens. Yeah. And she kind of like lives life at the same time. That's what I kind of think we're doing right now. I feel like we're living life, not linearly, but like abstract where we're living it all at the exact same time. So take it in.

Like this moment right now we're living, right? This is the present. This is just what we're experiencing at the moment. Like when we're trying to remember something or we're looking back at our memories, that's going back to the past in a way. You know what I mean? We're looking back at our past. Yeah. And so how, in what sense would you say you could see the future then? In a sense of like if you're daydreaming or you're like looking to the future, what it may be. But like what it is. Do you think you could see the future for what it is? No. No, I don't think so. So that's when I think like deja vu happens because it's just like, yo, why have I been here before? You know what I mean?

Oh, so you think we've been in there? Yeah, we've been there. Or we're all there right now. And our mind is just catching glimpses of what's happening at that moment. And that's why I'm like, why have I been here before? Because you're there right now. That's wild. Yeah, we're experiencing everything at the exact same time. But we're just like, our body isn't able to handle all of it. So we're only able to just experience the present right now.

Yeah, what if like when you go to bed or you go to sleep, it's almost as if you close the game and then you can pick it back up, but there's so many different checkpoints there. Save points, yeah. And then you can play whichever one you want to do. Yeah. But we only remember from where our last save was. Yeah, exactly. Oh, man.

Yo. This is crazy. You ever see? Yeah, that's some crazy shit, bro. You ever think about having mutant powers? Mutant powers? Like X-Men? I think there's some people that do have powers. I think a lot of people do, actually. Like a lot of people. What do you mean by that? I wouldn't say like what you would say, like what you would consider mutant powers, like teleporting or creating fire, but like neurodivergent people, like people with ADHD. Yeah. Or like, you know what I mean? Like in that,

whole realm of like just mental different you know I mean I feel like that like the spectrum yeah the spectrum I feel like that is like a power in itself in a sense is that a mutation then it might be because like who in the past you know I mean just like cavemen or just people in the past no one knew that they had like oh I have ADHD

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? That's like a recent thing. Not recent, recent, but like within over like the past, like maybe 50, 100 years. You know what I mean? That's when people started like realizing, oh, maybe something in the brain is different. Some different chemicals, you know what I mean? But that could be just from like overtime evolution that our brains are just mutating to think a different way, be a different way, you know what I'm saying? Operate a different way. Yeah. Because I heard a story from somebody before. They have like an autistic family member. Yeah. But they're so bright. Yeah. I've heard stories like that, though.

Right? Like, some way it hardwired into their brain. And even though they don't communicate very well, they can solve problems so crazy. They can solve riddles, anything you want. And they see it a different way. Really, the only thing different between somebody who is autistic and somebody who isn't is just, like, the physical of it. Yeah. Really? And that goes back to, like, our idea of, like, maybe just, like, our bodies just can't handle that brain capacity that they have.

Exactly. Yeah. So maybe like he does have like, maybe autistic people do have like this certain brain capacity that just operates so quickly and so much faster that the body just can't handle that. Mm.

You know what I mean? And so if you give them the perfect vessel, then they become like some different type of human, some next generation evolution. Maybe that's how, maybe that's what aliens are. Exactly. You know what I mean? Maybe they're just human, like with a different like vessel. You know what I'm saying? Yo, yo, okay. I have this theory, right? So when I was a kid, a lot of people don't know this. I used to stutter when I was a kid. Really? Like, like, kind of like speech impediment? Kind of. I used to have a stutter. Okay. I still stutter all the time.

yeah i started sometimes sometimes but my theory is what if the reason i was stuttering before is because maybe my brain was working too fast at the time and my body couldn't keep up that's true because there's another theory how people with messy handwriting the reason it's messy is because it can't keep up with your ideas yeah it can't move fast enough can't move fast enough yeah which i think is true which is true then look at look at kanye west there's so many different things like we see kanye doing like what the

it's so weird right well we just don't understand it because we're not on the same wavelength we're not on the same like brain capacity is in my guess in his podcast with jorogin he says like his brain operates it's his brain the way he thinks it's a symphony of ideas yeah you know what i'm saying and like you can't control though you can't play every instrument you know what i'm saying but like you can be the conductor that like tells what the instrument

Tells the instrument what to do. Tells the instrument what to do. Yeah. Yo, man, my brain's moving too fast, bro. There you go. There you go, right? But that's what I think like having ADHD is because like I have ADHD for a long time now. And like the more and more I like study it, the more I understand why I operate the way I operate. In a sense, I think it's a superpower, bro.

That's how I see it because it's just like you're saying hyper focus into multiple different things at the same time isn't a superpower. Exactly. Yeah. Because like sometimes I was talking about this with my homeboy the other day. Like sometimes when I'm reading a book, I'm reading, but I'm thinking about five different things and I'm still able to like finish the page. I just don't remember what I read because I was thinking about five other things. But then I get those five tasks done in my head. Yeah. Yeah.

over this one task no i get that sometimes where i'm reading and i didn't even read the book i just like daydreamed you just saw the words yeah you didn't read them yeah no i feel you i know exactly what you're talking about bro because that happens to me sometimes right and sometimes i even okay this is crazy but i'll read a story yeah and then i'll i'll see the story in my head i'm still reading it but the story already went off the script and i already i'm continuing it in my head okay the

Crazy you say that. I was about to tell you this one thing. So there's people that can't do that, eh? Where? It's called aphantasia. Yeah. Where? Let's say you say, imagine a red star. Can you see it in your head? Like a red star, right? Yeah. There's people that can't. They see black.

They see Oh shit They know the idea Of Red Star But they don't They don't visualize it Right Yeah And so when people Are reading a book Like I just saw Like a TikTok About this like earlier It was like When people with Aphantasia Read a book What do they see Cause you know What we were saying Like you see Like the movie In your head You see the whole thing You give your Characters voices It's full production bro Yeah

maybe you can't do everything right but yeah like you see every detail in your head down to the smell and like the sounds there's people that just think of the idea of the book and the words and they just see words yeah that's crazy because like i feel like imagining is such a normal thing but there's a lot of people with this like condition where they just can't visualize no because i i do relate to that when i i try to tell my friends some ideas and like yo i don't know about

that one they can't see the vision they don't see the vision and like nah that's kind of whack or whatever right but when i actually put it out and create it into i put it onto a canvas they can see yeah exactly that's when like damn yo how do you come up with this at the same time too it's just because like people can't see what you're thinking sometimes you just have to like write it out like you know how like kanye will say some outlandish ideas but until he does it that's when people start praising him yeah you know what i mean exactly like he talks about like

A lot of things. And people always clown him. He always says like. Everybody's going to get Yeezy's. This is the new evolution of footwear. You know what I mean? People are like. Nah. Those are whack. What's everyone wearing nowadays? Foam runners. Yeezy slides. Because they're practical. They're comfortable. The look.

People just aren't used to it. You know what I mean? Yeah. But I see hella people wearing like Yeezy slides, foam runners, and they just look like house slippers. Yeah. You know, but they're practical. And what he was saying about them before makes sense now because he's produced it and over time people have been wearing it. Now you see the vision. Now you see the idea. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? I feel like hella people have amazing ideas. People just don't get the chance to present it. You know what I mean? That's why people say like the cure for cancer can be in somebody's head that can't get a proper education. Yo, that's deep.

when you get that one bro i have no idea that's a real shit yeah but you know what i mean like that's that's what it is though that's what i'm saying going back to like the freedom of choice like having the freedom of choice is one of the best blessings we can have because like we can just we can put like nowadays you can put what's in your head on paper and yeah you can make it into a billion dollar business everybody has the power to do that everybody has if you have a phone if you have a phone you can do it exactly that's what i'm saying the power

Our phones are like Like every year I'm like man The phone's getting more expensive And expensive But like if you think about This phone can change your life It's so important It's changed my life I literally just bought the iPhone 13 The 13 Pro Max It's coming in November though I have to wait for it It's pretty fire though You have it? No I don't But like I have the 12 Pro But I saw the 13 in like person Like the other day I was like man

It's kind of clean. Bro, take this in. I have a theory, right? This is not even a theory. This is low-key facts. They have the ability to make... You know how the new one is one terabyte? You can get so much storage capacity on it. My theory is that they can put...

10 terabytes if they wanted to. They can put so many if they wanted to, but it's not a good business plan. Like it's not, it's not stable for the business to keep selling because then you're not going to upgrade. You're not going to buy the next one next year and take this in. It's the same thing with light bulbs. Did you know the older light bulbs in like the 1950s, the first ones that came out, they didn't go out. They didn't break. They lasted for years on years on years. No one's going to buy more light bulbs because they don't need that. Exactly. So listen, listen, they ended up making this pack.

Yeah. So all of the light bulb companies, they ended up making this pact. And if they wanted to produce light bulbs, they would have to go under their rules and make it worse so that they ended up going out and breaking so that the customers buy more. That's so true, bro. That's crazy. That's crazy.

bro but okay this is my theory though with like the iphones and stuff and like you know how like building pcs is so like commercial now like yeah like back then it was only like really gamers or really hardcore editors that were building their own pcs but now everybody's building it's like the new console exactly yeah yeah like pc master race like it's it's growing like everybody's getting new pcs so what i'm saying is we're gonna have the ability to build our own phones one day in that case

Word. Because it's going to get to a point where our phones are so advanced. Like, what can they upgrade next? What can they upgrade next? Like, how about we just give you the freedom to upgrade it yourself, but we'll sell the parts now. You know what I'm saying? But I don't think they'll do that, though, because they want you to buy it. They want you to buy the full thing. You will buy it, but then you can just customize it your own. Like, Apple sells the most useless things. Like, you know the tile thing, like, where you can find your things and if you lose it. Oh, the...

the tag the air tag yeah they could do that be like okay here's like a freaking new graphics card for your phone that's a thousand dollars and it's apple branded people will buy that yeah people i'm not saying people wouldn't buy it it's just that i don't think it's the best business move for them because they know they're gonna buy it or right anyway they're gonna buy it already so let's say i was supreme remember when supreme was going crazy oh my god like everybody there was the whole site was selling out they were selling 50 000 plus shirts every single drop right not even shirts like

random accessories random accessories whatever it may be yeah because they knew whatever they put out people will buy it people will buy it so that their business plan was they're gonna make all this random shit but make sure it's expensive yeah because the price was the only catalyst like they were gonna buy it no matter what it's just dependent on the price yeah and like the supreme hoodies were pretty expensive not even like retail price for crazy yeah it was like it's like two bills right yeah two bills and if you

think about it like when did hoodies like acceptably become so expensive you know it was only because of them literally five years ago like 20 even 2014 you can get like a solid hoodie for like 30 bucks exactly yeah but now like it's normal that hoodies are 100 plus 100 plus crazy and that's what it is like bro like ACG like Nike hoodie mm-hmm

this is a hundred plus dollars. And I'm like, for a hoodie. I know. I was like in my head after I bought, I was like, when did I get to the point where like, I wanted to buy like a hoodie for over a hundred dollars. It's because they change your mind. And then that becomes the new normal over the years because that's what you see. These champion hoodies, 60 plus dollars. Okay. And then essential hoodie comes out over a hundred dollars. And now that's your new normal. Cause you see it everywhere. Yeah. Cause if you really think about it, street wear isn't even just its own community. It's like normal now. Like,

People dress like that all the time. Like people I knew that weren't even into street wear or shoes at all. Yeah.

Wear it because they just think like, oh, that's just another brand. It's just another Nike. That's the norm. Yeah, it's the norm now. And that's crazy. That's why it's hard to say that streetwear is dead because it's not because everybody's wearing it. In a sense, the streetwear where it used to be like a hobby is dead. I don't think streetwear is a hobby anymore. Yeah, it's not. It's just normal. Yeah, it's just life. And it sucks that it's kind of sucks that it's like that. But I'm glad that we got to live through that culture. You know what I mean?

It was a real like culture change. Yeah. Like we didn't see that before. We didn't see people caring about streetwear like that. Like kicks. Like who... They didn't care about sneakers like that before. Don't care about donks, ones. Like... It was a small portion of the population that really fucked with the sneakers. Very small. Very small portion. And then like all of a sudden it just blew up. Yeah. And millions. Millions of dollars, bro. Crazy, bro. Like...

It's just so crazy because like even back then, like every shoe I ever own, I've ever owned, I bought for retail. Yeah. Yeah. I've never paid resale for a shoe. That's good. And like back then, like the bread ones, the 2016 ones, I got those like off a raffle so easily. Like just like put my name in there. Like, Hey, like you won the bread ones. I'll bet I can't win a single raffle nowadays, bro. It's not possible. It's not possible. It's all rigged.

People are always saying like, oh, sneakers app. It's already, I already lost because it's true. Like it's, it's so hard nowadays. It's so saturated. Yeah. It's just so saturated. Okay. Let me ask you a question though. Do you think it's gonna, it's gonna get better or worse? Cause look, let's say you can put up the norm of a hoodie to be $160, but it can never go back down. It can't, it can't, it can't. Like they're not going to change it back down, but they can put it up. Yeah, exactly. And why would they put it down when it's already been up?

Why lose money when you can make more? You know what I'm saying? And even look at the stock market, bro. Look at the stock market. Low-key always goes up. If you think about like five years, 10 years, 20 years back, everything went up, bro. Yeah. Everything in general, the prices of like cereal, the prices of gas, the price of everything, everything's always just going to keep going up because it's just like, why make less when you can make more? You know what I'm saying? Okay. I have a crazy question for you. I have a crazy question. So like we were talking about before, everybody has the ability to become very successful. Fact.

Facts. Hyper successful. Facts. Right? Now, do you think there's an agenda right now trying to hold people back? Because look, do you think it's going to be like this forever? No. Nah. Because listen, listen, the people upstairs and I know the people behind the door, Sam, the CEOs, the people controlling Illuminati, whatever it may be, right? They don't want that.

They don't. They want the same people in power to be in power. Exactly. They don't want more rich people. Yeah. They want everybody to stay back. So how do you hold them back? And do you think there's some things taking place that are holding us back? See, that's why I think like, I don't know. Like, I feel like that's why they're giving us this. Like, they give us platforms like TikTok to give us rapid success. But in the end, like, yeah, we get this rapid success. But how many TikTokers are billionaires at the end of the day? Yeah.

You know what I mean? It's only a few that, that figure out a way to monetize it very well. People say like, I'm not going to say it's easy to become a millionaire or something, but it's definitely, you can see the steps on how to get there now. Yeah. But the distance from million to billion is such a gap that like, I feel like people like the front runners, the top people, the front men give them this like small success. Like, Oh, here's your first million. And then there'll be, there'll be done with it. And then they're like, Oh, I'm not going to make it into a billion dollar business because I don't need to. Cause I have my million. Oh,

Oh, word. So they give them that quickly. Quick success so they don't get long-term success. Yo, that's smart. You know what I'm saying? That is smart because you're like giving them the treat so that they don't take the whole buffet. Exactly. Like if you tell somebody like, oh, this is the only piece of cake left, they're going to eat it, but you still have like the whole cake in the back. Yo, that's so true. I just-

that in because there's a lot of money going around right now yeah money comes and goes every day like i feel like money is just as easy to spend as it is easy to earn you know what i'm saying and people are spending and earning spending and earning like i'm probably like one of the worst people with money like i've always been bad with money because i didn't have it before yeah you know what i'm saying and i always say that but people people who didn't have money before and who are bad with money back then are going to be the exact same when they do have money

Yeah You know what I'm saying I think it's true Yeah because like You never learn how to How to you know Like how to save back then You didn't want to save And then when you finally get money You're not gonna save it You know what I'm saying But yeah like The value of money for me now That I'm making like A pretty steady income It's gone For me like the value of it Has It's not What do you mean by that Like I'm not gonna say Money isn't everything Cause But it's not You know what I mean Like that's like the cliche Oh yeah you mean You mean the

the feeling you have attached to it. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like I felt like before, like, Oh, I want hella money. I want all this money. I want to be so rich. I can buy this, buy this, buy this, buy this. But man, just like recently too, like I just felt like, you know what? Like I just need enough money to not worry about making anymore.

You know what I mean? I feel like people nowadays, like people always want money. I want money. Yeah. Like, but what for? You know what I mean? What do you want? I feel you. I say that all the time, bro. That's why I'm flexing with books and shit. Don't flex with the wrong paper. But that's like, that's the truth because it's just like, people say like, oh, I want to work because I want to make a lot of money. What do you want to make a lot of money for? Mm.

To do things. You know what I'm saying? Like, money only gives you opportunity and security. You know what I'm saying? The more money you have, you can pay for healthcare. Yeah. You can pay to take care of your family. You can get out, like, the roughest of ends. You know what I mean? You can protect people. You know what I mean? You can go... You can pay for experiences. You can pay for...

You can buy time. Like you said, like, why would I spend like $2 on a 30-minute transit bus when I can spend like 15 bucks on a two-minute Uber or whatever? Exactly. You know what I'm saying? And that saves you time. You know what I mean? And so like the more and more I make like money, I guess, like I see it as just opportunities just to do more things. You know what I mean? Like I don't save a lot of money. I just like to use it to, I use money as a tool to just be happy. You know what I mean? Yo, take this in. Take this in. There's some real shit. They said, why would you save money

If they're printing money. That's facts, man. That's facts, yo. Yo, no, take it in. Because look, if you're saving money, why would you save it? Why would you hold on to it? Yeah. If they keep making more. Mm-hmm. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't. You know why we think like that? Why? Because they taught us to do that. Because the rich taught us to do that, fam. And that's how they're like inhibiting us from getting up there. Bro, people always ask, yo, how are these millionaires millions of dollars in debt? Yeah. They're in debt because they make moves with their money. Mm-hmm.

They're not holding it in a safe because they know if they hold it in that safe, it's not going to be a million dollars anymore. Exactly. It's because everything's going up, man. Everything's going up. The value decreases. It depreciates. I feel like the richest people in the world spend the most money. You know what I mean? They're always investing. They're always putting money into new businesses.

Like Kanye $54 million in debt Now he has a $6 billion Like net worth Yeah Cause he spent all that money In his career Investments or whatever Business ideas that he had And then look It made him a billionaire It went up You know what I mean But that's the thing with money It's just like I feel like That's the thing with greed though People are so greedy with money But why You know what I mean It's just paper Yeah

People want People want to be comfortable People want security And if it takes If it takes away from Somebody else's comfortability They'll do that And it kind of sucks How it's like that You know what I mean It sucks bro You know It's not fair But But that's life That's life bro And that's kind of like We're getting taught every day And

And the only way to combat that is to preach your own message. That's why I say it on the podcast all the time. Like, you guys shouldn't worry about it. Start to look at it a different way. Because I feel like a lot of people, they just go with the norm. They just go with the norm, go with the mainstream, what you're taught in school. And sometimes they don't realize, like, not everything they tell you is, quote unquote, the best. Yeah. Or it's not. Honestly, it's just outdated. It's outdated. It's outdated. Because our education system is...

How many years old now? You know what I mean? Yeah. They've been teaching the same things from like 1950s. I guarantee you right now, if you take a marketing class, they're not going to teach you about TikTok marketing. Yeah. Even though it's the best marketing you can use right now. It is the greatest marketing. But they won't teach you about that shit because it's outdated. Like the teacher doesn't even know how to use it.

Exactly. Because he's just teaching the same lesson over the years. He's just doing his job though. It's not his fault. It's not his fault. Yeah. It's just like the people who run like the education system, like, okay, this is what we're going to teach our kids because that's what we want to teach them. And maybe that's how they're telling us, like, maybe that's how they're like keeping us there by not,

giving us the information see that's why i feel like people are so much more prone to success nowadays is because we have information it's because we have so much we have unlimited information in our phones like everything we ever need is in our phone yeah you need you need to know something just look it up you know i mean exactly you need to know what's happening across the world you just look it up you need to know how to do something you just look it up nowadays like our phone is our second brain and we take it for granted you know i mean yeah we don't use it for like the

most proper things and that's fine you know you know it's jokes because if you think about it back in the day the people they would call like the brainiac or the smart person they would just be the people that memorize this shit but like in a sense we're just as smart as them now because we have everything we have it right here exactly like you don't even need to remember how to spell words because no that's so true the other day i was texting my home girl i was like necessary

I don't know how to spell necessary by itself. Spell it for me. N-E-C-E-S-S-A-R-Y. Oh, I'm pretty sure there's like two C's in there. Is it two C's? I don't know. See, I don't know. And we can't confirm unless we're on our phone, you know what I mean? Is it two C's? I think so. Something like... Oh, shit. See, we don't know. Yeah. We could think, but we don't know for sure. How do you spell February? F-E-B-R-U...

- I have to like visualize the words. - Yeah me too, no me too. That's what I was doing bro. 'Cause see, I know a lot of people don't think like that, right? And that's why I'm so bad at math fam. Because when I do math, I visualize it as, okay, in kindergarten when we learned math, it was like balls, right? It was like,

Two balls plus three balls equals five balls, right? So in my head, I see balls. Moving. Yeah, moving. So when I'm trying to do like multiplication, it's hard to imagine like 50 and then times 30, whatever, right? Because our brains just can't handle that. Yeah. But what's the point in that though? Like, why do we need to imagine like, okay, Judy bought 50 pineapples. Yo, what person is buying 50 pineapples, bro? Exactly.

Nobody's doing that. Because they write that down and now I have to imagine it in my head. I'm like, 50 pineapples. Damn. How are they holding it? That's what I'm saying, bro. Like, it's so... That's why I said it was so weird that people can't imagine things sometimes. Like, visualize. I know a lot of people relate, though. Because I feel like the true... A lot of fans of Jumper Jump, they're fans because they know how we think. How we think, yeah. And they really relate to it because it kind of...

There's no voice for it. You don't hear about it a lot. What? You don't hear about people thinking about that a lot. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In a sense, people are scared to speak their mind about things like that. Like, oh, you're too weird. Or like, yo, what the fuck? You sound dumb, blah, blah, blah. Yeah, that's why people on Twitter blow up so much off just relatable things. And then people are like, oh, damn, we really lived the same childhood. It's because people are too afraid to just talk about their experiences, talk about their life, you know what I mean? And then when people find something to just be like, yo, same, same.

Like everybody gets hyped up from it. You know what I mean? Like the best things I like to watch online are relatable things. You know what I mean? That's why like my favorite rappers are people that like I can somewhat relate to or who are very grounded. Like J. Cole, for example. You know, I feel like people love J. Cole because he just feels like a normal person rapping.

you know yeah i get that when we see kanye rap and he has his whole production he we see him as a genius and like oh that's kanye west he's he's a genius but his life is so extravagant it's so extravagant like like i love the music but i can't relate but then when we see j cole he's literally just like well just at home he's making music he's wearing sweatpants crocs you know what i mean that's why people love j cole like die hard because they're like that could be me honestly yeah it's true it's true that's what i love nowadays about the internet like i feel like that's why tiktok blew up so much

because of like the whole for you page thing, you could see people like making videos in the room, starting podcasts in their bedroom, starting fashion, like TikToks in their bedroom. Because like some people could like watch that and be like, yo man, I'm so into fashion. I don't know what to, I don't know how to, I don't know how to, how to present my creativity. And then you see people on TikTok like, oh, they're doing, they're in their bedroom. Like I have some type of fashion sense. Let me make that type of content now. And that's how people, that's why there's so many creators nowadays because people like see it's possible. Once you see something it's,

possible you're more likely to do it it's like that herd mentality yeah yeah yeah that's facts that's facts like once you see it done before then you'll do it bro I'm telling you ever since the podcast bro we see all of these people trying to copy us I'm saying bro bro I'm like it's hard to hate on it yeah it's hard to hate on it but like

Damn, bro. Yeah, it's like... You can't say if it's like... You can't say nothing. Did I inspire you? Or are they ripping me off? You know what I'm saying? Because I heard this from a friend, though. He told me, he said, like, there are no such thing as original thoughts and ideas. You know what I mean? Our ideas are just a remix of what we know. Like, we're taking something from somebody else. We're taking something from somebody else. And we're taking something from our memories. And we're putting it together. We're remixing it into a brand new idea. But really, it's just a bunch of ideas in one. And...

And my friend told me this the other day. He was like, he says he believes that our ideas flow between people. You know what I'm saying? You think so? So like every, like we share ideas in a way where it's like, let's say I get this idea to start a podcast. Yeah. And then I don't make a move on it. It's just going to go to somebody else and goes to you. And then if you make a move on it and then you start it and then it becomes successful and then somebody else is going to be like, dang.

man, like I always wanted to start a podcast. Now let me start that. And it's going to be the same. You know what I mean? Interesting. I don't think people are really, it's hard to say like people are copying, you know what I mean? Because I know it's like, it's harmless copying. Yeah. You know, it's like what you always say. Like people don't, don't copy steal. But yeah, I appreciate all the time. If you want to copy someone, don't copy them, steal it and make it your own. Exactly. But I feel like,

own. I feel like people don't go to that extra extent of stealing. And they just do the same shit. They don't realize that, you know what I mean? That's why I can't shit on anybody that like, you know, sometimes like my content on TikTok can get like a little bit bitten off, but it's just like, but was it really like my idea to begin with too? You know what I mean? Because at the same time, like a lot of my TikTok ideas didn't even like

Like they were kind of like original ideas, but it was remixed from what I've already seen on YouTube. Yeah. And like my personal life. Yeah. It's through what we've seen and then we make the idea out of what our experience is. Exactly. Like the way I started like doing my TikToks and starting all these like videos is because like I combined like what I saw from like fashion YouTube. Yeah. Combining with like my hobbies. Yeah.

Anime Streetwear Comics Everything like that And I just put it in one You know what I'm saying And when people see that idea They're like Okay let me try that And it's like It's cool to see them do it too You know what I mean Like oh damn I made this idea And people are like Taking it But it's like Is it really my idea though

I'm like remixing it. You know what I mean? So you think it moves around to like people all around the world? Yeah. It moves around. Like ideas just keep moving until somebody takes initiative to actually do it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think, okay, for me, I write down every single idea I have, even if it sounds so crazy. Same. And there's some ideas in there I know nobody will do. Mm.

But the moment I put it out, people are going to see that and they're going to see something else out of it. Yeah. You get me? So like, it might be an idea related to some, let's say, related to basketball. Basketball is a topic, right? Boom. Basketball. Somebody's going to see that and move it.

mma yeah move it tennis whatever it may be right like switch it up into something different you know exactly but it's only until that moment the first one drops then it's like boom that whole wave yeah and that's that that's that herd mentality people don't think something's possible till it's done you know i mean yeah like you guys pioneered basically like podcasts on tiktok okay like before like jumpers jump i didn't see anyone really posting their clips and i always thought about that like why don't people

yeah i know why doesn't joe rogan post his podcast clips on tiktok because people i feel like people are scared of it that's why but why though because they're scared of a new frontier because tiktok is a new frontier it is it is very new it's quote unquote like cringy people didn't want to be associated with it right yeah even now people still want to be associated with tiktok exactly they still use it yeah the people who shit on tiktok the most are the ones on it the most everybody switch in the

I switched it up too, fam. I'm not gonna lie. I didn't even think TikTok was sick before. Nah, I love that shit. Right away? Right away? Yeah, because my homeboy, shout out JL, yo, he basically started up my career. Yeah? Yeah, because he basically introduced me. He's like, yo, man, the best videos are on TikTok Trust. I was like, I bet, like, I'll give it a shot. I was like, fine then. And I was like, yo, this...

is funny as fuck like this is the best content and it caters to what your interests are exactly you just have to give it a chance like once you get judgment out of your head and once you get humility out of your head then you can do anything and you can like see things for what they are and not what

- Yeah, and then you can shit on them now. You can shit on them like, "Yeah, you didn't see what I thought." - Yeah, you didn't see that. That's what I'm saying. I always told people, I was like, "Yo guys, get on TikTok." They're like, "Ew, no, isn't that like musically?" I'm like, "No, put your content on TikTok." Do you ever have those friends that you can see like, "Man, they would be so hyper successful if they went hard on TikTok." - Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Those same people that I saw I was telling I was like yo man Like trust me bro TikTok's the way Like nah And then like two years later They're like man I should've done it And I'm not saying I told you so But like I'm saying like next time An opportunity like that comes up Just bag it It's missed opportunity And I think It is

So many other things Are gonna happen Where it's gonna change bro Yeah I don't think this is gonna be forever I don't think TikTok's gonna be the same forever That's the same as like YouTube YouTube isn't the same as it was YouTube is different Already a year in Yeah Just like a year It's been changed Like look at shorts and shit right Yeah Literally like they added that And like YouTube channel's Been blowing up from that There was this one YouTuber I forgot who it was But they had like a million subscribers And they only had two full videos On the channel Word But most of their views Had like From the shorts That had like 70 million views Damn Yeah

That's crazy. But if you think about it, like I always thought about that too. I was like, what's going to be the next form of media? We have Netflix, we have YouTube. I was like, the only like real option is to have it on our phone, like vertically. Like why isn't there like vertical media yet? And then TikTok came out. I was like, yeah, that's the one, yo. Yo, I have an idea. When somebody's going to take this idea right now, it's like, just remember I said it first. I think I'm predicting right now, the next form of content, the comments will all be audio.

I'm telling you right now all of the comments will be audio at one point in life that'd be sick though because we haven't seen that yet we haven't seen that yet like we've seen like look at Twitch right so imagine Twitch but it's like individual comments that are speaking like yo look behind you blah blah yo what do you think about this this this yo imagine you just have a

packed twitch rooms to achieve though and then yeah no but maybe not at the same time like kind of like uh you know yeah like next one the next one yeah that's tough though that's that's cool though but that's it's so hard predicting what's next do you think there's some profits in the world like real profits that can predict shit predict shit probably like no shidame see i feel like people see patterns in a way where like okay if this worked this way and um we're

we're missing this, then this is going to work because this app has what this is missing. And it's also bringing something new to the table. You know what I mean? I feel like people see like... No, but I'm talking profits as in the sense of like anything. Okay, like see the future. The next president. Okay. Like the next natural disaster. I feel like some people know though. You think it's true, right? I think some people... Because going back to the idea of like how we see the future in Deja Vu, maybe people can just like...

They can transcend back. They can transcend back or they can transcend back and forth. Like, like Black Mirror, you know, how like you watch Black Mirror. Yeah. I watch a bit of it. You know, like how they have that little like a headgear where they can like rewatch the memories. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe there's a way like with a device, but in their brain, they can rewatch the memories and see the, like read the future. Just like not even read it. They're experiencing it in real time in their head. And then come back and then come back and forth. Yeah. Yo, okay. I have a crazy story for you though. So there is this lady who,

Right? This was long, long time ago. This was like during the Roman Empire. Oh, shit. So she would go to this like crack in the earth. Scientists figured out this crack in the earth was right above a source of ethylene gas. Okay. So ethylene gas, right? Yeah. It supposedly gives you like a psychedelic effect. It's a hallucinogen. She would go under this crack and...

And then people would gather around her and she would spit all these like crazy, crazy prophecies. Yo, one day this is going to happen. A meteor is going to strike, blah, blah, blah. And everybody's looking around like, what is she talking about? She's crazy. She's crazy, right? So she ended up writing down hella prophecies. Yo.

Hell of prophecies, right? And these people, some of the prophecies came true during their time. The people went to the Roman Empire, the emperor at the time was like, you have to buy these books. You have to buy these books. It's like, ah, whatever, whatever. Yeah. So she predicted something crazy that happened to the king. Yeah. And it happened for real. So he bought the books. Yeah. And these prophecies not only predicted things that happened in their era, but also predicted things. Our era.

In our era too. Predicted 9-11. Predicted like. Bro, it predicted like phones. Crazy shit, man. And take this in. There's other predictions in there that still haven't come true yet. Wow. And one of the predictions was extraterrestrials. Nah.

And... Oh, shit. No, I think she... She predicted, like, a famine. Like a disease, bro. So, Loki is on track, man. It's on track. Oh, my God. Bro, because look, look, look. Because I feel like those random coincidence just so happened. She was there under that ethylene gas. They didn't know what the f*** ethylene gas was before. But she absorbed it. And it came out with these prophecies. That was meant to happen, bro. Yeah. So, what if that was a way of, let's say, the higher power, God...

warning us like okay listen to this girl yeah but people just think she's crazy people just think she's crazy but why do we think people like that are crazy why don't we believe more people like that you know i mean it's because it's so weird to look at like it's so out of the ordinary right like if you if you see quote-unquote like a crackhead on the street you know i mean speaking gibberish right you're not gonna like you're not gonna give yeah you're not gonna give him a second thought

But what if he knew your future? Yeah. What if they're speaking like real shit? Yeah. You don't know because we just don't give it the time of day because we're taught to stay away from that. We're taught to stay away from drugs. And I'm not saying do drugs. I'm not saying that at all. Yeah. Yeah. You know, if you do like at your own risk, you know what I mean? But what I'm saying is just like we're taught like even just marijuana itself. Everyone says like, oh, it's bad. It's the gateway drug you're going to do. You're going to be a coming addict after you do it. Mm hmm.

But some people, most of the, like a lot of the most successful people in the world do marijuana and they get their best ideas off marijuana. But it's not for everybody. It's not for everybody. Everybody's different. Everybody's body operates differently. Everybody, everybody's body takes drugs differently. Yeah. That's why it's hard to say because when you put it under that umbrella, then some people, it might affect them for the worst. Yeah, that's true. For the worst. And they wouldn't force all that, right? They have to,

They have to proceed with caution. Like they don't know. Some people even, it might trigger psychosis. That's true. That's true. And that's real. That is real. Thing though, like should we teach our kids that drugs are just bad or should we teach them that drugs, just take it at your own risk? You know what I mean? Yeah. Like just be careful if you do. You know what I mean? Because I feel like people, a lot of people nowadays or just people in general, I feel like a lot of people do drugs because we're told not to do them.

Oh, like a rebellious thing? Yeah, I think so. So what would happen if we taught our kids, like, it's okay and we gave them access? Would they do it more or would they do it less? Depends. You know what I mean? I think it depends, especially on the media and what the agenda is at the time. Like, look, look at all the rap music. It's all about drugs, all about lean. That's true. Like, nobody really... You think people actually like lean? Nah. No, they only like lean when they start talking about it, bro. Yeah, because the cool guys are talking about it.

Yeah, that's why. That's the meaning. You're hearing the songs and then you want to do it. Just like what you hear Lil Baby with a Ferrari. Like you want a Ferrari too. You want a Ferrari, you want a big chain. Exactly. You want to make all these stacks and racks. You want to break these backs. Yeah. Yeah.

No, but that's why you see, I feel like a lot of rappers, they look the same too. They do. A lot like the typical, the typical big chain, skinny jeans, like designer, Fendi. Some kind of crazy hairstyle. You know what I mean? Everybody's trying to find their own style, but really they're under the same cookie cutter.

Yeah. You can be in the same cookie cutter, but they're just putting like different icing on top. But that doesn't mean you're still from... You aren't the same cookie as somebody else. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Exactly. But that's the thing. Like it's always going to come down to that formula, formula. That's why I feel like people on TikTok, like that's why content gets so repetitive and all looks the same. Where people... We see people as copying because it's just...

It's become a formula now. It's working. It works. And if you see something that works for somebody else, why wouldn't you try it either? That's true. That's why I can't, I can't like shit on anybody who does like get most of the content from other people because it's just like, if you see something that works, do it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I get it. I get it. It just, it just sucks now that people's, a lot of people's like content on TikTok is getting a little bit more like,

Everything's starting to look the same. Do you really think about that? Yeah, it does. It does. And that's why I feel like people are always like, oh, I miss old TikTok. I miss old era. I miss summer 19 TikTok. But no matter what, it's going to get to that point. It's going to get to that point. Just like YouTube was like that too. Exactly. People made the reaction videos, things when people say, you know, that's been a whole way for a while. Or skits before.

Back in the day. Yeah. And then at one point, like gaming, YouTube was like taking over like Minecraft YouTube. And then everybody just had the same Minecraft YouTube videos. You know what I mean? Yeah, exactly. It works. It works. I mean, if it works, like why change it? But at the same time, if you want to be better than not better, if you want to be more successful. Yeah. Then you got to do something else out of that comfort zone. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So, so do you know how to combat that or no? To combat what?

To combat this, that whole wave of everybody's looking the same. Do you know how to combat that? It's hard because it's just like everybody looks the same. So that means you're consuming the same media. You're consuming the same thing. So what are you really learning and what can you really, what new ideas can you make if all you're looking at are the same ideas? You know what I mean? So whenever I create things, I don't look at my niche. So let's say, so I do a lot of fashion content on TikTok, right? Yeah, yeah. I don't look at fashion videos for inspiration because why would I do that? Everybody's doing that.

So I look for inspiration In like nature Or some shit Like oh I like the way This tree looks The way the leaves Like wrap around The branches You know what I mean Maybe I'll do that with clothes Yeah yeah You know you have to find Like other hobbies And other niches To put and remix Into your Into what you want to do You know what I mean Because if you think about it Like everybody's making Let's say Let's say fashion Everybody's doing the whole Like transition Like oh new hoodies

Yeah, yeah. You can only wear a flannel like so many different ways, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, that's right. And people have done that video from time, from even before TikTok, YouTube, you know what I mean? So like... I think the way to combat it, bro, is just sell personality. It's just selling personality. That's it. Because that's the thing... That's the only reason... That's the only way it differentiates from other people. Like the difference between your podcast...

and somebody else's are the people running it. - Exactly. - You know what I mean? - Like they're not gonna have the way I think. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? They're not gonna have the way Emerson thinks. - Exactly. People could say the exact same theories. People can copy exactly word for word, bar for bar, but would you rather see somebody else rap Kanye's verses or would you rather see Kanye rap his own verses? - Kanye rap Kanye's verses. - You know what I'm saying? - Exactly. That's some real shit. Say that again, bro. - Damn.

okay i i can't that's hard bro that's hard because look it is hard i i said this before kanye in my opinion is a goat creative that's true but drake is the greatest rapper ever greatest rapper ever greatest rapper ever you think so like in terms of what in terms of numbers or in terms of in terms of everything actual bars in terms in terms of his influence in rap

his terms in versatility, bro. He does have, he's really versatile. I love Drake. I love Drake, right? He can put you in the fields and then get you hyped in like the same day. Exactly. Or the same minute. You know what I mean? You pick Kanye over Drake? Personally. Personal choice. But, but what, what are, what are your catalysts to say that? Cause Drake, numbers. Okay. It's Drake. But if it's about numbers, that means McDonald's would be the best restaurant in the world.

You know what I'm saying? In my opinion, McDonald's is the best restaurant in the world. In my opinion. That's fair. That's fair. That's fair. But you know what I'm saying? It's just like, you could say, oh, numbers. Drake is the best because of numbers. He's always been on top. He's better than the Beatles. He's catching up to Michael Jackson. But it's like, yes, numbers do prove that somebody is great. But that doesn't mean they're the greatest. You know what I mean?

I mean, but I'm not, I'm not downing Drake. I love Drake. I listen to Drake every single day. The day I set my foot in Toronto, that's all I've been listening to. Views from the 6. Toronto, bro, first of all, like sidetracking, Views from the 6 is the perfect visualization of Toronto. That's all I'm just gonna say. You think so, yeah? Like you listened to that and you felt it?

I've been listening to that album for like five years and as soon as I started playing it, it hit different here. Because I started noticing the references and like even the album cover, I was like, damn. I was looking at the CN Tower the other day. I was like, yo, that looks like. You even get the temperature from it. You get the temperature from it. And that goes back to ideas like you don't get, you don't get the vision until you see it. You know what I mean?

Because I think Drake's the GOAT because he has the best of everything. He does. He has the best of everything and Kanye only has that segment of creativity. And bro, because look, Kanye has great throwbacks. You know, he's the GOAT from a long time ago. But Drake's numbers, it just shows already. It just shows who is the GOAT. But,

Cause Drake is the goat To more people Than Kanye is the goat To other people That's true But do you think If Kanye didn't get into Any controversy Do you think he's bigger than Drake? No You don't think so? No I don't think so Cause I think about that All the time with like Chris Brown You know what I mean? Cause Chris Brown was predicted To be the next Michael Jackson He's gonna be Michael Jackson Mmm

But after that controversy, nobody was fucking with him anymore. But he still made good music. He does. He consistently makes good music. But do you think if that controversy with Rihanna never happened, do you think Chris Brown would be the biggest artist? I don't think so. You don't think so? I think he would be somewhat bigger, but I don't think he would be. I still think I don't think he would be bigger than Drake. You don't think he would have been bigger? I don't think he'd be bigger than Drake. Possibly could have been bigger. Okay, so here's why Kanye is my goat, though. Yeah. The reason I consider Ye my goat is because

He... He doesn't... I don't... I wouldn't say he... People say like Kanye's the biggest influence in rap ever. But I don't think he's influencing it. I think he's paving the way. Okay, I guess that is... That is influencing rap. He's like...

He's like subconsciously Influencing people And people just don't know it Like back then 808s and Heartbreak Nobody liked the album When it came out Not a lot of people Were a big fan of it But now everybody Is influenced There would be no Travis Scott Without 808s There would be no Juice WRLD Without 808s There would be A lot of people In the music industry Wouldn't be who they are Without 808s You know what I'm saying No that's facts

And like, even like fashion, when Yeezy, when Kanye first went into fashion, bro, Yeezy changed the game. It changed streetwear. It made streetwear from a culture to a regular thing. You know what I'm saying? Like before Yeezys came out and like Ultraboost were hyped, not a lot of people, like there were sneakerheads, but not a lot. Yeah, because, okay, in the sense of creative, I think Kanye is a go-creative.

but he's the greatest creative rap too though like if you think about it his discography like drake is versatile i'm not gonna debate that but kanye is just as or even more versatile than drake has been no because if you think about it every single album has been different college dropout is different from late registration late registration but kanye can't sing like drake though kanye can't sing like drake he couldn't do you heard you heard heartless bro

No, but you can't. That's not like Drake vocals. You can't do no Finder Love. That's true. That's true. You can't do no Marvin's Room. But then you can't say Drake is the greatest rapper. No, because he's an artist. Look, look, look. He's the greatest rapper because he became popular through rapping.

But it doesn't mean he's just a rapper. That's true. So that's why he's the greatest rapper. Just like I say, Michael Jordan is the GOAT. Yeah. Because Michael Jordan isn't just the GOAT because he played basketball. Michael Jordan's the GOAT because he made basketball what basketball is. That's true. Like he made basketball popular. He made the sneakers huge. Yeah, that's true. And it still is that. The culture of basketball is Michael Jordan. But if Kanye is the greatest rapper ever, we have to take into... Look at his discography. Look at his numbers. Now, if his numbers aren't as good as this one... Look...

Jordan is six for six, Sam. Jordan's six for six. That's why he's my GOAT, bro. Yeah. So that's why I don't think LeBron's a GOAT. So I can't say... Because he lost. Yeah. Like, you wouldn't say Floyd Mayweather is the greatest boxer if he lost. That's true. That's facts. He's undefeated. That's why he's the greatest boxer. So Drake, in a sense, he's kind of undefeated where... Look at the numbers. Yeah. After Drake... Okay. I would even say Drake is the greatest musician. I could see that. I could see Drake as a...

the most solid like musician but if we're if we're talking like strictly let's say lyricism and rap then i would give it to like kendrick you know kendrick i wouldn't give it to drake yeah or somebody else you know what i mean but if we're saying just like greatest rapper i just say drake okay i can see that i feel like in in a general sense in a general sense yeah in a general sense i'd say drake is the greatest rapper for sure then yeah yeah yeah but if you like for music heads and like people who dig deeper i think khan is the best

the better artist yeah yeah yeah because see it depends who you're asking right it depends who you're asking because some people some people listen they don't listen to the music for the same things that's true one person does right yeah some some some person's listening to the beats some person's listening to the lyrics yeah people break it down some people want to the they want the story right and if it doesn't add that then it doesn't work for them so that's true that's not their goal that's that's fair that's fair that's like that's like how people didn't like didn't really fuck with donna i think donna like to me it's a 10 out of 10 but that's that's because like

I still think Don is better than CLB. Me too. But I'm not going to, I would be a liar if I didn't say I didn't like it at first. Oh, really? I'd say. You didn't like Don at first? First Don to listen. Yeah. Like full through, six out of 10. Really? Yeah. First CLB listen, 10 out of 10. Oh,

Week later, Donda, 11 out of 10. A week later, CLB, solid 7. Yeah. No, no, no. CLB kind of got drive for you. That's the thing, though. That's why I say Kanye's the GOAT because he doesn't make music now. He makes music for the future. But does he make music for the future or do people just follow that formula? Does he make the new cookie cutter? I don't know. It's hard to say because he has so much of an influence. He has so much of attention at him. It's hard to say if they're just fans of Kanye. Exactly.

right you can't really say if he's influencing or people are just like just want to follow like that well that's the same thing but you know what i mean like i don't know that's why he's my goat but like i love donna now 10 out of 10 but at first 6 out of 10 who's who's your who's your favorite rapper like because i remember you pushed on your story what is one rapper that you love the most like relate to sorry oh relate to jay cole

oh actually no bryson tiller bryson tiller see people consider him as like oh he's a singer he's an artist like but no he's he goes hard when he goes bar for bar like you know i mean when his lyrics like hate you the most he does trap soul is my favorite album of all time i've said this before i've said it like a million times it's my favorite album all time even if it might not be like a lot like the most popular album for most people yeah to me it is because it came and it's not even like

It's the time it comes out. You know what I mean? That's why Views is my favorite Drake album. Yeah, actually. For a lot of people, Views is not even top three. You know, most people like Take Care, Nothing Was The Same. But for me, Views is number one because of the time it came out. Because I was able to relate and the feelings I had in the moment at that time, it's carried on until now. You know, every time I listen to Feel No Ways, I get the same feeling as I first listened to it at first when I was like 15 years old. Right?

Whenever I listen to Trap Soul I remember the memories of What it was like When I first listened to it And then maybe like When I got older I started understanding Because I went through The same experiences Yeah So now I see the album In a different way Cause there's some songs You listen later It's growing with me That's why like I love I always revisit albums constantly Because like in albums Like my top three songs In an album Always change constantly Constantly Like Donda

It's changed so many times. Like I've always liked Heaven and Hell. You know what I mean? And just like, and Believe What I Say and 24. Like I was playing those three on repeat. Now it's changing. Now I like Come to Life. Yeah, I love that track. I love that track. So amazing. And when you see like the cinematic journey, like Kanye puts you through in that song, you're like, damn, I appreciate that song so much more. And then you start seeing, like you start listening again. You're like, damn, that New Again track with Breezy is like, damn, I really like that. I like that track because you're growing with it. You know what I mean? You grow, like things don't really hit the same, the first...

the first time things don't really hit the way you want it to the first time you press play jake will say something like that you know i mean you need to give it a couple plays you do you do because you can't judge anything by like a first listen and that's everything that's everything like with ideas like let's say even new idea are you gonna give up like if it bombs like the first video of course not yeah you gotta test it out nostalgia dripping let's say like it got let's say it got 100 views your first video you're still gonna make more i'm still gonna make more yeah sometimes i do believe in the vision if you believe in the vision that's what i'm saying you just have to like you

See the vision. Like, you know what I mean? I always talk about it with my homeboy. Like, people just don't see it yet. The greatest that they need to be, people just don't know it yet. You know what I mean? That's real shit. Like, everybody's a genius. Everybody has a billion dollar idea. They just... People just haven't...

Don't see the vision yet People seem to put it on paper I think that's what people Like struggle with you know People have a thousand ideas People have a million amazing ideas And I'm not gonna shit on any That's why I never shit on any ideas Because I'm like I just don't see What they're trying to say Yeah you don't see it yet You know But then sometimes Like the dumbest ideas Could be the greatest of all time Yeah

Like celebrity boxing, bro. No. Yeah. Nobody knew at the time. Like, oh shit, that's going to be a thing. Oh, like I want to see, I don't want to see YouTubers fight. Why would I see YouTubers fight when I could see like real box, professional boxing. And now look at boxing now. Like I'm not saying boxing's dead, but I'm saying like this influencer boxing is, is not only bringing interest of boxing to boxing fans, but it's also bringing like,

like, interest of boxing to people outside of boxing. Yeah, that's true. You know what I mean? It's true, yeah. Yeah, you just can't shit on anyone's ideas, man. Like, you just gotta stay positive. You just gotta, like, accept everything. Be like, okay, you know what? Maybe I just don't see things the way he sees it. Yeah, exactly, bro. You know what I mean? You just have to see their vision. You have to give people a chance. Yeah. That's the thing. You have to give people mad chances. That's real shit, bro. Sometimes people just, you know, people just don't get that chance. So just give it to them. Mm-hmm.

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