EP.56 - SPIRITUAL EGG CLEANSE RITUAL, JEFFREY EPSTEIN CASE, & JAPANESE BLOODY MARY
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R.P. Pop Smoke. R.P. Pop. R.P. Virgil, bro. R.P. Virgil, bro. That was the first death where I was like, I didn't believe. Bro, I went on Instagram and you know those ones where it's just story after story after story? Yeah. And I'm like, there's no way. Bro, it didn't feel like real life. It actually didn't feel like real life. I thought it was like all prank, bro. No, actually, no. I

X was a big one too. Oh, X? Bro, that one hurt, fam. Yeah. That one actually hurt. No, because I was on like the sad boy wave and I was listening to all the X. I know. Like leading up to that. X got me, Jocelyn Flores. Jocelyn Flores. Got me through one of like a big death in my family. Yeah. And then after that, he passed away. I'm like, there's no shot. That sucks, man. You know?

But Virgil is crazy because I feel like Virgil is a big point in both our brands. Oh, yeah, for sure. For sure. He inspired me to be in fashion, fam. This whole generation. Remember when we had the fashion documentary? Did you mention him? Yeah. Remember we all said, like, who's your biggest inspiration in fashion? I said Virgil Abloh. No way. Did you remember that? Yeah. Did you? Yes, I said that. Oh.

- Oh shit. - You said, you said, - I said Ian Connor, Lucas Abbott, Lucas Abbott, and yeah, Bari. - I said Sean Witherspoon and Virgil.

That's crazy. No, because Virgil, I only, I remember I painted my black pants because I couldn't afford off-white at the time. Oh, with the white? With the white. I remember going to school and everyone was like, yo, that's why you have off-white pants, right? And the other people would be like, yo, why the fuck is there black on it? Gavin was so broke, he made his own off-white.

This guy said, no, I'm going to dollar. I'm getting white paint. Nah, cause Virgil, low-key Virgil was tripping with the prices. The prices are expensive. But he made street wear that level though. Yeah. You know what I mean? He made street wear that price. Facts. Do you think he was the reason why hoodies are like very expensive now? 100%. So he impacted that too. Virgil and Supreme made it like that. Yeah. Virgil and Supreme and whatever else was popping at the time.

like Gosha. But I think Virgil, he made it that streetwear became high fashion. Yes. Because for a long time, high fashion used to only be like the, oh, you gotta dress like, no, you gotta wear like the big bubble or you gotta wear like the weird fabrics, textiles or whatever. But Virgil just made it straight up like t-shirt, hoodies, jeans. Yep.

and he made that up. And the sneakers. - Yeah, but he elevated from it. 'Cause I don't know if you know, but he started with Bentrol. Do you know Bentrol? - Yeah, and Pyrex, Pyrex. - Yeah, Pyrex. So he went from, he went from Bentrol was like the tacky, just slap a logo on the t-shirt. - Yeah. - And then he went to Pyrex and he took $80 flannels from Polo Ralph Lauren. - Oh yeah. - And he smacked his design on it and resold it for $450.

Oh, that's well, you know what they say what cuz okay I have a story for you actually yeah, so my Lolo right when he was he was a little bit poor in the Philippines Yeah when he was growing up and one of his side hustles that he had to do was sell art Okay, and he told me this story He told me like if you're ever gonna sell art sell it at a very very high price because from his own personal experience He was selling all these paintings, right? Yeah, but he was selling it cheap because he thought oh people are gonna buy because it's cheap people are gonna buy it, right and

So he said, how come nobody's buying? So he switched it up. He started selling them for very expensive prices, super expensive. And that's when everybody started to buy. Yeah. Because there's a preconception that if art is cheap, it's not good. It's not good. Yeah.

But there's also like the thing where it's like you can sell cheap art, but if it's selling, it's selling. People will also be like, yo, that's selling. Let me buy that. But then it also goes into supply and demand though, right? Yeah, yeah. That's everything that runs in the world is supply and demand. Like if there's no demand, you know? I know.

But that's a big thing too right now in fashion. It was like the kids that are starting up brands, they're determining the worth of their art just based off the sales. So if it doesn't sell, it's not good art. That's what they think. But I don't believe that. So what would you say is the best way to sell your clothes? Just do what you like because...

if you release designs that you like and you're liking that, something will hit. Because, fam, before this, I was dropping design after design after design. And it was the pretty boys that hit. So I'm like, I'm gonna roll with this one. But for pricing, though. For pricing. Because I know it's hard to put yourself or put a price point on your art. How do you settle?

How do you settle on like, okay, maybe I'll leave it at that? That's a good question. I remember I had this discussion with you before my big drop too. I'm like, yo, I don't know what to price it. And then I remember what you told me. He's like, fam, just...

all the labor you put in it's your price exactly exactly yeah in my opinion especially if it's if it's at a high cost people are gonna look at it as like okay it was a lot of work put in because it's at the high price at the high cost right but if it's cheaper then it's like oh man yeah it loses kind of its value i don't know why no because like you said too if you start at a low price it's

You can't go down. Yeah, you can't go down. You can't go down. No, no, no. You can't go up. You can't go up. You can't go up. You can always go down in price, but you can't go up in price. So that's what sucks. Because then people are going to be like, what the fuck? Now you're upgrading? What's crazy though, I feel like it's so crazy when you see in history where your name becomes worth anything, bro. Yeah. Literally just the name. Like Gucci was just a family name until it became the brand. I know. And anything Gucci now is going to be super expensive. Yeah.

BMW, Lamborghini, anything. Yeah. Just Mercedes Benz itself. Like you can put that shit on a hat. Now the hat costs more money. It's Gucci fam. Like that's your brand. Like that's why I switched Sober Society to From Gavin now. Cause I want my name attached to it. Yeah. Cause one of the craziest thing is people knew what my brand was. They're like, yo, do you know who Gavin is? They're like, nah. Oh, but do you know the hoodie pretty boys? And then they're like, yeah. Oh yeah. And I was like, you had like a little bit branding issue. Yeah. Branding.

Because they didn't know how to call you. They didn't know how to call you. You ever look into like what your name means? My name? Yeah. I know the Urban Dictionary thing is like, cute guy. Those ones too. Those ones.

I remember for the longest time, my Urban Dictionary name was like the best male stripper in the world. I was like, what the fuck? Nah. The Urban Dictionary is funny because low-key it's accurate. But it's like random people, they can just put anything they want, right? Yeah, yeah. I think that's what it is. But did you look into like your actual meaning? I think it's like...

It's like eagle. I searched it up. You searched mine up? I searched yours up. It's eagle, right? Because I looked up mine. Okay, it's eagle, right? Yours means white hawk. Yeah, white hawk. And it's funny because I'm whitewashed.

It ties in. It ties in. What's yours though? Mine means a free man. Free man. Carlos. Cause Carlos is actually a Spanish version of Charles. And I think Charles is supposed to mean free man also. Something like that. Free man. Yo, if you mix it around, free Mason. Sure. This guy's a fucking free Mason.

Dude, do you think having a certain name brings personality traits? Like when you're born? Personality traits? Yeah. Because you know how a lot of Karens go on, right? Or what's the other one? Kyles. What does Kyle do? Vivians. Oh, Vivians with the ABGs? Yeah, yeah.

Or do you think it's just a common name in that niche? In that culture, I guess. Okay, do you know two of the same people? Do you know two Michaels and they act the same? Oh, I have a theory about Michaels. Okay, okay. So check this out. I have a theory that people named Michael might have a special blessing to their name. So take this in, right? So look at all of the GOATs in sport history. Yeah, oh, Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan. Michael Phillips. Mike Tyson. Bro, and if we go to hip-hop or pop,

Michael Jackson. Oh, fuck. Bro, there's so many. I swear there's even more. Yeah. But if you take it in the Bible, who was God's right-hand man or right-hand angel? Oh, say Michael Archangel? Michael the Archangel. And he was the one that slain Satan. Oh, fuck.

So if you're born Michael, if your parents give you that name, you're already automatically blessed. You might have got like some next mojo with it. Yeah. You know? Or a blessing from it. Yeah, because all the two Michaels that went to my school, both very popular. Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like the gods of that

No, I swear there's no Michael that was down bad. I swear. Now that I think of it. If you think about it, maybe there's something to it, bro. Maybe there's something to it. And what's like the dickhead, like the opposite of a Vivian Tran? It's like, oh, this is Emily. No, no, what? Isn't it? Isn't it not? No, the boy version, man. Oh, Kevin Nguyen. Oh, Kevin Nguyen. So Kevin's.

I know a lot of Kevins too That are all dickheads I don't know any Kevins I don't know any Kevins But all the Kevins I know Are dickheads Really? Yes Yeah I'm sorry Sorry to the Kevins out there A lot of fans You guys are all dickheads No but But that name already though Kevin Nguyen

It has like a stigma against it, you know? A lot like the tattoo and the boba. But this is the craziest thing too because I remember I was at my, I think I told you this, I was at my driving lesson. Yeah. Right? And the person comes in, I'm like, yo, and before I drove, I was like to my dad, I don't want that person because she looks like mean. Very mean. Oh, true. So I was sitting in my car, I looked to my left, she's walking in my car. She's like, hey, I'm going to be your instructor. Let down the window, please. Oh.

She sits in my front seat. I take a look. On the thing, her name tag, Karen. Oh my god. You know the shivers that went down my body, bro? I'm like, nah, there's no way I'm passing this. Did you pass? You passed, right? But did you know, like, recently, I think for 2020 and 2019...

i think even 2021 yeah there's been no baby named karen no in the world wow people just don't want to know this it's either in the world or in north america something like that but i'm pretty sure it might be the world she's getting this that's crazy no just because the memes that's crazy because of the memes there's no way because the memes there's no way yo i remember one time we were like yo what would you name your baby and carlos was like kid number one and not child child

Funniest one. No, because it's Chidi. Because our friend Chidi, his name got mixed up in the autocorrect and it spelled out Child 1. Yeah. I wouldn't name somebody Child 1, bro. That's funny, bro. It reminds me of this joke. There's this joke my friends used to say in elementary school. Yeah. Like, well, what did the Mexican fireman name his kids? Mexican fire Juan something Juan? Nah. What? Jose and Jose B. No.

Jose Jose That's f*** That's f*** That is f*** You know what sucks though? What? Cause I feel like A lot of A lot of the jokes That we said In elementary school We can't even enjoy them Oh yeah We can't enjoy them 100% Bro we were like Borderline racist Yeah yeah yeah In elementary school And now like We say that shit once It's over I know That's what sucks bro Cause I wanna bring them back Like it's kinda like Nostalgic in a sense But I guess Because it has Semi hate to it Yeah

We can't. Only comedians can do that. Because I remember watching Joe Coy. And he said, how to tell every Asian apart through their accents. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You've seen that one? I guess you got to be part. Yeah. Bro, you got to do... He did Vietnamese, Japanese thing. But they're all laughing because he's a comedian, obviously. But if like some... Like we did that, we're not known for comedy. That's true. That's true. You got to be like grandfathered in or some shit. People thought we were racist because we were talking about the Filipino guy. I know. And we're Filipino. Shut up. We can...

But I feel like the more sensitive people become, the more separated. You know what I mean? Yes. Because it's less like inclusive instead of we're laughing together. You want to take offense to it, then it's like we're laughing together.

laughing now it's like now it's like one part is laughing and one part is mad that we're laughing yeah which sucks bro because i just want to see you like we're all inclusive we're like because if you're laughing as a friend and you're you're laughing with them then you become part of the group yeah because one one piece of advice i i saw in like a youtube video because i was learning on tips how to be confident right yeah this was back in like elementary school

and one thing this like life coach he was saying was yeah you gotta think every situation you're in everybody is included as like you're part of their team because if you if you walk into a situation or like um a scenario where there's a bunch of people and you have that preconception like oh i have to liar yeah yeah i have to like um i have to look good for them i have to like be beyond my best behavior blah blah then you're gonna feel like you're not part

Right, but if you walk into a party, right you walk into a party and then you feel like everybody's your family then it's different It's a different dynamic. I know then you just go from the the small talk straight to like yo fam You're just chopping it up exactly, you know exactly. Okay. I've never been to those influencer parties, but

Remember you were at the Jordan store? Yeah. And people, like big celebrities came over and you guys held events? Yeah, yeah, yeah. One of the people that worked there, she was telling me like, I hate those events because it's all about clout and who looks better than the other. Was it like that for you? I didn't get that vibe. I didn't get that vibe, but maybe because it was free bar. Yeah.

word is this free bar it's free bar yeah or it's open bar i mean yeah open bar so everybody uses like tips you know yeah yeah but i could see why that could be a thing especially did you know in in france yeah like the restaurants they don't face like you know how you know when you walk into a restaurant the tables are kind of like to the sides and shit or they're only facing to each other

You get me? Yeah, yeah. So I sit here, you sit here. In France, a lot of the restaurants, they're facing towards the opening. So you see everybody that walks in. Why though? I don't know. Apparently, it's for like fashion because you want to see what they're wearing. I don't know. It's weird. It's weird. That's such a

That's such a Paris France thing to do That's what I'm saying That's what I'm saying I guess that's the culture That's the culture of it Is you wanna You wanna be judged Or you wanna judge Yeah so that's every restaurant I don't know if it's every restaurant Cause there's definitely Fine dining where it's like A group thing Yeah But I know Some restaurants Purposely are like that Like my French teacher Told me about it When he went to France Yeah Yeah That's weird So like it's like Walking to your high school classroom And you just wanna show off your fit Everyone sees you Yeah exactly It's the fucking It's the pencil sharpener Pencil sharpener

You walk up to a pencil sharpener and make a bunch of noise. Everybody sees what you're wearing. Did you actually do it? Yo, bro, we barely had those pencil sharpeners no more. We just had our own sharpeners. But those were the days though. Or instead, if you didn't have a pencil sharpener, what I used to do is go up and ask a teacher a question. Like during work time. Just a random one. Be like, teacher,

what page is this or something like that. No, no, no. Even just like walk up to the teacher, come up with a sick question so that the teacher tells the whole class like, Oh Carlos, that's a great question. I should tell the class. And you're standing there like, yeah, what's up? Everyone's just looking at you, bro.

It's a good one. Is restaurants here just like that too? No, restaurants here. It's different. You can tell the vibe. It's very like, it's busy. It's very busy. You know what I mean? Like you have a table here, table here, table here. Wherever they can fit you, they'll fit you. I know. That's more of what it is here because they just want your money. Yeah.

Did you have one of those really awkward ones where bro, cause I remember yesterday too, there was an empty, it was like 12 o'clock at night. It was an empty restaurant. There was one person sitting there and the waiter was like, okay, you guys sit on the back corner right beside them. You could have sat us anywhere else. I'm like, what are you trying to like? That's weird. Yeah, I know. And then they were looking at us and we just talked to them. We're like, I wouldn't be offended if you guys move. And then they're like, yeah, we'll move. Yeah. It's like weird. Like,

Why are we doing your job for you? That's like parking in a parking spot in an empty parking lot. Does it make any sense? I do that all the time though. Do you? Just a troll though. Just a troll because I'll pull up and then I'll look at the person and then just leave the car. Is it like a beef ting or is it just like... No, that's just for fun. Just for fun.

Weird bro But you know Speaking of restaurants You know Outback Steak There's a theory about Outback Steakhouse Outback? Yeah Outback Steakhouse And how they're part of Illuminati Nah What the How? How?

So I've seen this, right? So if you look at Outback Steakhouse in Illinois, I think Arizona and any other location, there's always going to be five Outback Steakhouses in the area, right? And a person from Twitter connected all these Outback Steakhouses and it formed a pentagram. What? Every single one of them, a pentagram. So everywhere in the States or just there? In the States. So all the Outback Steakhouses become a pentagram? Yes.

What the fuck? Or, and they were saying that your steak that you're eating was part of a ritual before they put it on your table. Oh, shit. What the fuck?

Our back's gonna hit this. I know, low key. It's okay though. One thing I was scared of, remember we said that theory about Monster? Oh yeah? And then it's like Monster. That one blew up crazy. Yeah. For no reason too. Yeah, because it was already kind of like a popular thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the fact we said it, and bro, I had a feeling like, do you think the brands are gonna get mad about these conspiracies? Do you think brands get mad about conspiracies or do you think they like it? Oh, yeah.

Okay, it depends. Because I remember I had a theory about Chuck E. Cheese and the recycled pizza and how Shane Dawson did it. I think that's bad for the brand image. I think they would hate it. Yeah. But at least it's getting... Because do you agree any publicity is good publicity? In a sense? I don't know. I don't know.

Cause I wouldn't wanna go famous for like Doing some dumb shit on the internet Like that's I wouldn't wanna That be my brand image Like doing a A troll internet video Okay But Yeah But what if that's all you had What if like you had nothing else Then yeah I would have to take it Yeah me

Look at Boonk Gang. Oh, I was just going to mention that. He was famous, but he was famous for the wrong things. For the wrong things. But at least he had that, you know what I mean? Notoriety, at least. He was able to branch off somehow. Yeah. Somehow, because he has eyes on him. Do you think the most powerful thing in the world is clout at this point? Yo, clout is a superpower. It might be. Clout is a superpower. It changes the people's perspectives about you. You can walk into a room and if...

people know you they'll treat you different like that's crazy like don't treat me anything different but like you will just cause you know I have a bit of numbers on Instagram yeah you know and would you agree with me that the reason rich people yeah they flex flashy things is to show off their clout yeah

because they have to maintain an image so if you think about it at the end of the day instead of money being the top tier of value maybe it's the cloud yeah but there's some dark things you have to do to get there so you think it's more moral wait okay what do you think is better to gain the clout or chase the clout or chase the money oh that's a good one right

Because if you chase the clout, who knows what you're going to do. No, but clout, it goes clout. Then with the clout, you can make it to money. You think so? Yeah, I know. That's true. That's what Ian Conner did. He had internet fame, but he wasn't making any money until he was like, let me drop a brand, made money off that. Like Virgil Abloh, how he took whatever his brand was. He got clout from it. Then he dropped this shit. Yeah, that's true.

It was more even, you know that whole group like Lucas Sabat, Virgil, Ian Conner? Yeah. They were all just like neighborhood friends. They were neighborhood friends. Yeah, like just in the neighborhood. In New York. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't know that. I know. And then they're just like, they just wanted to collab. That's it. I know. It's because it's genuine in New York. In Toronto, it's like, you see here, it's like people don't want to, people don't even reshare on your story because it's like too, they just don't want to see you win or it's like too embarrassing for them, I guess. Yeah. Why do you think that is? Why do you think that is? I don't know, man.

No, man. It's like their own brand image is like, I don't want to post this just because it messes up my own story. Do you think, do you think supporting a certain side of the internet would ruin your image? If it's like something, let's say nerdy or off brand from you. I feel like that's cool though. Yeah. Yeah. Cause you do the weird nerdy shit all the time. Yeah, I know. I do that shit all the time. But people fuck with it cause it's genuine. Yeah. If you, the people who fucks with themselves the most will go up the most. That's what I learned. Yeah. You think that? Yes. Yeah.

That's a good way to do it too because it's not like you're playing an image that you have to be. Yeah. Rather than you just being yourself. Yeah. Because that's what sucks if you have to play this whole image and you have to pretend. And now it's like some other shit. Yeah. You know? It's like you're known for doing something that you don't like doing. Yeah. Oh, shit. That would suck.

Every day waking up. That sucks. Like, what if... Okay, no, but put yourself in that position. Okay. Would you play it off? Like, let's say you were famous for being, like, the greatest golfer in the world, but you hated golf. But was it bringing me money? It was bringing you a lot of money. You're a billionaire. I would play it off. You're a billionaire. You'd play it off, right? For a certain time, for a certain, like... I would get a billion, then...

Then let me try to transition. Yeah. For the money. For the money. Damn. You know I'm a back chaser. Okay, okay. But what's worth more? Your time or that money? Oh.

- Oh fuck. - Cause what if in that time you could have spent like creating other things that you did love and building a brand off of that for less though, is that worth it? Or would you just rather take the easy way out? - I would rather take the easy way out than transition to the shit that I like. - Yeah, that makes more sense. That makes a lot more sense. Cause I feel like we get it twisted. I feel like we get it twisted. Like we have too much pride that, nah, I can't do that. Like, you know what I mean? - Cause fam, I'm not the theory guy, but I made money off theories.

And then I'm gonna just transition it later to like my bone brand and that's what I've been doing. Yeah, yeah And you know, you know something cool that I learned about Virgil - what you know how he went from Pyrex to off-white Yeah, so Pyrex was a cooking brand, right? Yeah. No, no, no what it is. It's the off-white. It's crack. It's crack off-white crack Yeah, I didn't know that cuz what you took what you cook off-white in Pyrex is

That's why they look similar. The glassware. Yeah, that's why they look similar. And they got a fat lawsuit for it. Yeah, he was in a cease and desist, I think. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. I know. For Pyrex. Pyrex. Pyrex Vision. But I finally finished the Kanye interview too. Which Kanye interview? Oh, I didn't even finish that. The second part, I didn't finish it. Oh, the second part? You finished the second part? Yeah, yeah. I didn't finish that yet. He was just talking about his royalties with Adidas. Yeah. And how he could have took the Nike deal, but he had a daughter and he was like, I have royalties in Adidas.

So I'm going to take that route for the long term. Oh, true. Because it's everlasting. And it's funny how Nike then just got Kanye's team members. No, no, his team members. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. In Virgil. Oh, because Jerry Lorenzo. Everyone that worked on the Akande worked for Nike. Yo, that's so true. Damn. I just took that in. Okay, so let me put you in perspective then. If...

since your like big brand is Nike. Yeah. If I got a deal with Nike, would you be, would you be, obviously who wouldn't be cheese? What the fuck? That's like, that's like saying, that's like saying your biggest crush in the world, like your celebrity crush. And I'm fucking your celebrity crush. How's she going to be cheese? Yeah. Yeah. You would. Yeah. Okay. A hundred percent. You would a hundred percent. You would, but you'd be proud of me that I worked up to that. You feel me? Yeah.

No, but yeah, obviously. Obviously. No, no, but everybody would be cheese if they see like someone close to them doing what you wanted to do because you didn't do it. But there would be cheese less of them, but more of yourself. Yeah. That you didn't work hard. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So it was definitely less of like his jealous. It's more of like

damn i've played myself yeah right but that's that's where it gets deep right because there's things that you could have done but you chose not to do it and maybe because you didn't choose to do it you're on a different path and maybe that path is for the better shit that's why you just live life and see where it takes you yeah exactly so one thing i wanted to bring up was um going going back to like pretending to be somebody right okay yeah you think actors have a hard time like being in public because they have to play a certain character

And then they go out into the public and they have to be someone else. That's Lilium Hoyeon. Yeah, yo, from Squid Game. She's all like this in the movie. And then in real life, she's like...

She's mad bubbly, right? She's mad bubbly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, for sure. Because I was reading, like, she had a hard time through the whole acting phase. Like, she was... There was a video of Hoyeon breaking down fan theories. I don't know if you've seen this. Oh, I saw that. Yeah, yeah. And then she was like, guys, I'm low-key glad I died because I'm done acting now. No, she's not. No, no. She's, like, done acting, like, that part. Oh. Like, she didn't want to act it no more because it was so tough on her.

Oh, yeah. She said it was like stressful, right? See, a big example is Jonah Hill. Because Jonah Hill, he was always cast as the fat guy. Oh, I've seen that. And some reporter was like, how do you feel being the fat guy of Hollywood? Yeah. That fucking sucks, bro. See, and then, yeah, maybe going back and getting like, I guess, attention for the wrong things you don't want attached to you. That must suck. I know. That must suck. Because then people have those preconceptions like, oh, they're going to be cool with it because they make fun of it.

Right? On movies and shit. But at the same time, if you're that rich and famous, I feel like you can play it off. Yeah. You know? Because imagine this one, if we get like 5 mil on jumpers and we're getting interviewed and the interviewer asked me, Gavin, how do you feel being Carlos' Robin? I'm like, what? I would be cheesed. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, but yeah. The thing is though, you have to like...

You have to trade. Yeah. You have to trade your soul, I guess. Exactly. But I would be cheesed, but I would ignore it at the same time because I'm making bank. Yeah. So you have to trade. Would you say you trade your mental health for the clout? Oh. Okay. Do you think the more clout you have, the worse off your mental health? Oh.

Yeah, for sure. We hear about it all the time. For sure. We hear about it all the time. We hear all these stories. That's 100%. Because I don't even have that much clout, but I don't even want to post on my main anymore. Why? Because it's like mad people judging me. Oh, yeah? Thank God I have a spam, so that's where I feel comfortable posting. But why do you think you can't post on your main though?

know bro it's just weird like there's too many people watching me you think that's why just just because it's too personal yeah and then like if i post something like not quality they're gonna be like oh unfollow that and then i get caught up in the unfollows and the follows you feel me see i have this theory right okay i have this theory and it's a theory a lot of people use in work so they say when you show up for work you should never give your 100 why because they always expect more

So listen, listen. So if you're going to get so much people fired. Bro, no, listen, listen, listen. If you show up to work, right? And let's say you give 50%, but your 50% looks good. I'm not saying do shit at work. I'm not saying that. But I mean like...

Effort. Effort, right? Your actual effort into it. Let's say you get 50% and they see, oh, he's working in 50%. That's as usual. Now, if you step down from that, now it's looking like you're doing shit. But if you step up from that, then you're doing really good. So let's say you move from 50% to 100%. Now like, wow, look how much work he's doing. But you wouldn't have got the same credit if you're always doing 100%.

No, I get that but it's kind of a flaw. There's like a flaw in that. You think so? Why? Because like you can work really hard at the start and you can just keep going up. No, but that's what I'm saying. Let's say you work really, really hard, give your 100% all the time. Now, your body takes a toll. Now, your time takes a toll. You know what I mean? You can't work 100% forever. You're going to get tired. So if you're at 100%, the company sees bad times or harsh times, now you got to work 125%? Oh,

But I feel like you have to be in a comfortable position in your company for you to start doing that. No, what I'm saying, if the first thing they ever see of you is that it's like 50% is the 50. But what if, what if you're 75% is good? Oh, then you're blessed. Then you're saying, that's what I'm saying. Right. But you're like, you're giving like least effort, but it looks amazing. Yeah. Okay. I think once you knock that down, yeah, then you're blessed. It's like the little middle ground, right? It's like, it's like the median for sure. Cause my boss told me, it was like, you start knowing the person after,

six months in the job because you work hella hard and then it starts dropping. You get comfortable. It starts dropping. It starts dropping. And then boom, you get kicked out of group chats. Personal experience. I got kicked out of group chat.

I was working like 110%. Then boom, it went lower, lower, lower. Boom. They don't associate with me no more. No, okay. That makes sense too. I'm like, fuck it. I'm on a podcast. No, I guess that's true though. Cause if you give like the 50% in the beginning, then like they don't even want you. They don't even want you. No, that's facts. It's a good middle ground. It's a good middle ground. Yeah, it's a good middle ground. That means the people that get stuff easy. Yeah. Like, damn, they have it blessed, bro. What do you mean people that get stuff easy? They can do shit that's super hard, but easy. That is...

I feel like that's like Michael's. That's what I'm saying, right? Yo, Michael's have it so easy, bro. Bro, you know what it's like? It's like you pick the character. How easy you want the character. It's like Gavin, hella roasts.

Bro, people have been sending me because there's an episode on Family Guy. On Family Guy. Where the guy was like, send this to... It was a meme. It was like, send this to all the Gavins you know. Yeah. And he's like, shut up, Gavin. He's like, I don't like you. What the fuck?

And then the guy, and then Stewie goes in the car. He's like, I actually like Gavin. And shit like that. Why do Gavins get a bad rap? I don't know. It's the name. Cause I see like, there's also always ones like, yo, uh, do you remember that the guy that drew a circle and it's a zero? Oh yeah. Yeah. It's like, how much pussy does Gavin get? Zero. Bro, I'm like, dog, there's no way. That one hurt. That one hurt, bro.

I really had to look myself in the mirror and be like, yo, I'm changing my name.

We have yeah fab honestly it sucks when there's someone famous that has the same name as you and then you have to like Would you say you have to live up to the hype? Yeah, yo, you have Carlos so but who's who's popular named Carlos Carlos Santana now Carlos from YTV fam Okay, but that's like Canadian

Some might say, some might say otherwise. Oh, no. Low key? Because you're for the kids right now. So you're substituting the Carlos. So are all the Carlos's iconic to kids? Are all the Carlos's good hosts? Hosts. Yeah. Oh, because he was a host. He was a great host. Going back to the name theory. He was a great host. Maybe Carlos's are like natural hosts. Gosh. Shit.

But yeah, there's no there's no like big I don't the Carlos Santana is only one I can think of Carlos Santana I don't know any Gavin's bro. There's all there's only the another isn't it Isn't there a Gavin that was like super popular in the streetwear realm? Yeah Yeah, I know what you're talking about the purple guy that did the cats. Yeah, that's him. That's him Gavin Um, no, he got he got like flame for for Rick or something. No way He became like a meme for like Rick Owens. Did he yeah, I

I think he- I think I know what you're talking about. You don't talk about? Yeah. I think uh, shout out Young Starbeam. Yo, he's gonna be absolutely-

No, but I see memes all the time. It's like, man's like Gavin and it's like Rick head to toe. I think Gavin's are just meant to be a meme and just funny in general. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's not a bad thing. It's not bad. It's not a bad thing. I like to make people smile, you feel me? Yeah, you live up to the name. But everyone sending me that, that's Simpson meme? F*** you, bro.

Going back to this the saviour shit how she was like scared. Yeah, um like portraying that that really bad role It wasn't a bad or like a negative really mean So yeah while I was watching that I rewatched one of the episodes in squid game and I noticed on one of the last um episodes when they were all sitting in that triangle, um, it was Jihyun saebyeok and

and Sang-woo sitting at that triangle table. Right? The steak dinner. Did you notice that? Why would they choose a triangle? And when they panned up, they were on a checkered floor. What's the checkered floor stand for? A Freemason symbol. What does the triangle stand for? Illuminati. Oh, shit. And you know what is one of the biggest sacrifices that the Illuminati have? What? It's a blood sacrifice. And what happened right after the dinner?

Blood sacrifice. She was the blood sacrifice. Yo, there's a lot of shit going on about Squid Game being a wake-up call. I know. No, I mean it makes sense though because that just shows how much power the VIPs had for the players. Yeah. You feel me? That's like real life. Yeah. Shit, someone might be watching us right now. You know what's fucked, bro? We never really got into it, but you know Jeffrey Epstein? Jeffrey, who's that? Yo, I'm not Jeffrey Epstein. No, who's that? Bro, check this out.

Okay. So Jeffrey Epstein, right? He was this billionaire. He was friends with Donald Trump, all of these celebrities. So many celebrities, bro. Rich and powerful people, presidents, everything. He had this island. This is well known. A lot of people know about this theory. He had this island where he would take people and throw a party, right? Huge party.

But they got caught for a lot of sex trafficking and child trafficking. Dan Bilzerian type beat, bro. But like, fucked. But like, fucked. So take this in. He got arrested, right? And when he got locked up, people were saying, oh, they're going to kill him. They're going to kill him because he's going to spill all the secrets, right? Oh.

All the secrets about who was at those parties. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Who attended, what they were doing, right? He has so much information on a lot of powerful people. What happened to him? He committed suicide in his prison cell. Did he though? Did he actually? That's the whole conspiracy, right? That's the whole conspiracy. Now check this out. Okay. Check this out, bro.

So, you know John McAfee? John McAfee, he created the antivirus for McAfee software or whatever, right? Oh yeah, I've heard of that. Yeah. He was also a very rich and powerful person that attended some of these events, right? And he supposedly, he even said this himself, they're gonna arrest me and I have all of this information. I'm gonna leak out to the public if they try and kill me. So, you know what he did before he was arrested? What? He got a tattoo on his chest saying,

that said, "If I die, I was whacked." - What? - I was whacked. Like, they killed him. - Yeah. - Like, he didn't commit suicide. - Uh-huh. - What happened to him? - Committed suicide. - Committed suicide.

in his prison cell. And everyone's like, oh, he got Epstein. He got Epstein, right? Yeah. Check this out. Now, I think a few months after his death, because remember he said, if I die, this information is coming out. There was a building in Miami. Yeah. A really, really tall condo building. Demolished from the ground up. Boom, gone. Everybody's like, what the fuck happened? Why did that building like collapse? Why did demolish that building? People lived there. There were things in there. Yeah. Supposedly, John McAfee

Had a condo in that building with the information. No some secret shit And there were these millionaires bro, this is what's crazy, yeah, this is super crazy This is recent right a list came out because uh, I think her name's grizzly Maxwell So she was um, she was really close with Jeffrey Epstein and she was facing a trial of

She was facing a trial, right? She was about to snitch. And right when the trial happened, head of Disney, head of Apple, head of all of these huge companies. I think there's a lot. There's a lot. Google, whatever, stepped down from CEO. No. Also, there was a list of all the people attached to it. Like there was a list of all the companies that might be affected by this trial. There's Disney, Apple, Google, Apple.

So many, bro. I think Indigo Books. You know who else? Kanye, Virgil. Stop, stop. Oh, yeah. I remember that he was on trial. Yeah. For what, though? For what? Yo, it was f***ed up because I don't like doing the conspiracy. I know. I don't like doing the conspiracy. Conspiracies on the dead people. Yeah. But I seen one where it was like, was all this, the cancer stuff fake for Virgil just because he was going into trial for that? I know. And I don't want to get into that. I don't want to get into that. But it's f***ed up.

that people are mentioning that but but it's it's crazy when those coincidences happen yeah yeah it's really crazy I seen the list too it was crazy right but why would they all step down like all these rich people man I don't know man I don't know that's why it's so sus yeah

That's why I sold a sauce. Also, there's a whole theory that a lot of people tried to expose Jeffrey Epstein before. Yeah. And one of them was SpongeBob. Oh, shit. Did you know in SpongeBob's driver's license, the coordinate or the location is Jeffrey Epstein's island? What? Stop.

- Jeffrey Epstein's Island is on SpongeBob's driver's license. - Bro, that was like a 10 minute theory fam. It just kept going. - Yeah, there's a lot to it. There's a lot to it. - What would you do? What would you do? Would you snitch? - Bro, fam, okay. Now you have to keep in mind, let's say you're part of this elite group. Let's say you're part of that.

and you have this information but you know releasing it whatever you're attached to who you're attached to your family you're attached to all these people that you know yeah and you might put them in danger as well definitely you gotta drop if you're part of a big company you gotta drop out of that spend your money on the casino one night just go ghost no i just it just commits

Whoa, why? If you're part of that trial? Oh, part of the trial? That's what I would do. Fam, there's no way I'm getting past that. I really- because I don't even know what the trial is about, but it's something big. Yeah. But it's something big. Something f***ing big. Yeah. I don't think the details are really out like that. Yeah. But-

That's why it's so harsh. That's why it's so harsh. You know, one of the big things I read about too was with multi-millionaires, they hire people like strategists to go with them in the casino and help them out. Oh, really? Yeah, 100%. That's a thing? Yeah. And I was watching a video. Do you know Sal Pasadena?

pal santo i heard that name yeah so he's like this casino protection guy yeah so he knows all the tricks in the book so one of them i don't know if you watched um 21 no that 21 was good too but there was um austin powers awesome powers yeah powers remember there was a scene where a guy with the eye patch yeah he was he was playing blackjack right and he had a 17 so 17 in blackjack usually don't hit right but he saw the card right and he was like hit and then the dealer was like

Sir, you like to live like crazy? Like you're at 17. He's like, hit. So one of the tricks. So is a juice deck. Do you know what that is? It's like they plant a deck there? No. So a juice deck, the cards have certain marks at the back where a professional can read those marks. Oh. So if there's two marks at the corners, that's a jack. Oh, shit. If there's one mark at the top right, four. Whoa.

the fuck so the guy was like okay hit that's crazy but there's other ones I read about too which is crazy you know the switching of the dice yeah yeah yeah so there would be a dice where it would only roll four five six but they wouldn't know it because all the other ones you can't see so they would keep one in the palm switch it out every single time damn

But you know what they do to you if they catch you, right? Oh, fam, the security, they kill you, fam. Bro, because you ever watch the movie Casino? Yes. With Robert De Niro? That was the best one. That was the best one because it's actually like, that shit would actually happen. Yeah, yeah. You know? That shit would actually happen. Like, they take you into the corner, take you into the back room. You know what's crazy too? At the casino that I...

like this kid this kid thought he was the top shit right so we were playing blackjack right yeah and this kid kept winning kept winning right and he was telling his friends he's like do this trust me yeah he's like i count cards he said that out loud he said that out loud me and my friends looked at him we're like what the

Why would he say that out loud? Oh, shit. We move tables. We move tables because I'm not associating. Bro. And you know what I found at my, I don't know if I should say this, but what I found at my table cup holder. Yeah. There was like a piece of paper and it was like some next numbers. It was like, this is going to roll this. This is going to roll this. What the fuck? And I was like, what? And I touched that paper, fam. If they have my fingerprints on that, I'm fucking. Bro, what the fuck?

That's crazy. That's a real like. It's a real shit. Don't tell him you came here. Bro, I picked up the thing. I was like, yo, fam, what is this? He's like, yo, I swear that's like something for Baccarat. I'm like, oh my God. That's crazy. Yeah. But Kevin Hart does it too. He hires this like white kid that goes with him that never loses. Like a strategist. And Lil Baby did it too. Like the guy has to call the casino before he comes in. He's like, I'm coming in, but I'm not placing any bets. So you guys are good. Oh.

Cause they win He wins so much He's banned You know Dana White Is actually banned We talk about this all the time Dana White is a goat Yeah

Dana White's banned from all the casinos in Vegas. That's crazy. Like, imagine. But he's rich as fuck already, bro. He's rich as fuck. But I think the craziest shit I've seen was there's a thing called Thumper. What's Thumper? Where you would put a little Thumper thing in your thigh because thigh is the most sensitive part of your body, right? And you would have something in your toe. So whenever, like, you can send signals around and if you have players with you,

And then it would thump. You can Morse code. Thump, thump. Oh, shit. It's like a remote. It's like a walkie-talkie type of thing. Bro, the casino cheating is crazy once you get into it. Damn. I never looked into that. Yeah. Because I'm scared, bro. I'm scared. I'm scared, but it's so cool. I'm scared even just gambling itself. Yeah. I know. Me too. You had your whole run of it, eh? Yeah, yeah. But then I lost too much money. Oh, my gosh. I think I'd rather just put it all in the stock market, bro. Yeah.

bro. Yeah, I know. If you're gonna gamble it, just gamble it like that. Yeah. Cause, yeah, cause if you put it in the stock market, you don't lose your money. Yeah. Unless you sell it. Unless you sell it. But do you believe in, um, cause I seen an interview with FaZe Banks and NFTs. Yeah. He was saying like, he was talking so big. He was like, I have hella apes, you know, you know, those, the ape ones where like, they sell crazy. Yeah. The yacht apes. Yeah. And he's like, I have the, the punk, uh,

Crypto punks. Crypto punks. He's like, it's not liquid though. But if someone buys it, I have like 8 million. But it's not liquid though. You know why people buy those though? Why? They buy it for the events. So there's this whole... They host events like in... Oh shit. They host events in like New York and in LA, wherever. That only...

board ape yacht club members or owners can go to. So it's less of, it's less of like a, what do you call it? Art piece. It's more of like a ticket. Okay. It's more of like you get to network with all those people. Okay. That's fire then. Yeah. So, so there was this super rich billionaire. He said on a podcast before he was like, I own a Bugatti, but I don't even like Bugatti's. You know why I own one is because they do Bugatti meetups. Hmm.

And the type of people that own Bugattis, they're very, very rich people. Very good people to network with. Also, to a smaller scale, somebody gave me advice like, yo, you should learn how to golf. I'm like, why golf? All the rich people do it. All the rich people do it.

And on the golf course, that's when they have their conversations about money, collabs, stocks, whatever. And it's like a bonding thing, right? So it might be smart to invest into hobbies that might get you into those networking groups. That's...

That's smart. I've never thought about it like that. Yeah. Cause I've always wanted to be like, yo, how can, now that we're kind of big on the cloud side, we can get to certain events and we can talk to certain people. Right. Yeah. But like, if you're starting from the ground up, how would you, how would you advise people? Like, what would you do? Just learn golf? I don't,

I don't know. You can't really do that. I think first steps is definitely just build your personality. Yeah, yeah. And that can go a long way. That can go a long way. I don't know if you played Skyrim. You ever played that? A bit. A bit. So you know how in Skyrim you can change your like... There's so many different categories. You have avatars. Yeah, there's different categories of skills and one of them is like swindling or like talking. Yeah, yeah.

And if your talking tier is like level 100 and shit, you get away with everything. You talk your way out of jail. You talk your way out of deals or you get the best deal in negotiations or whatever. And bro, honestly, that's a superpower. Negotiation? Like that, that tier in freaking Skyrim is looking more powerful than attack. If you think about it, right? Because let's say, let's say you're going to fight somebody, but instead you just negotiate your way out of the fight. Then you,

You won. You know what I mean? That's like real life. Like, would you rather spend your whole life fighting your ops or just talking it out and just going about your way? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, less damage. Also, I think one of the craziest superpowers you can have in the world is luck. You ever watch Deadpool 2? No, I didn't. So Deadpool 2, there's this girl, right? And she said, they're all saying their superpowers, like one guy can like turn invisible, one guy can like do electricity, whatever. This girl...

She's like, my power is luck. Everyone's like, what the fuck? I'm just really lucky. Right? So in the fight scenes and shit, she'll be fighting somebody. Somebody points a gun at her and then the gun would jam. Or like a car would come by and hit the bad guy. So she's fighting. She's going all through these sequences and she's getting away from things and she's like slipping through like really, really crazy shit. Just cause shit messes up. Cause she's so lucky. Nah.

Nah. Lucky is a thing, bro. Because, um, what do you call this? Um, holes? Yeah. The guy unlucky all the time led to a shit life. And it was until he was like, um, he was already a teen that he got out. That's half your life wasted. Damn. No, it's so true though. Even, uh, you,

Did you know one of the very luckiest things, one of the most luckiest things you can bring to casino, you know what it is? Rosary? Nah, the luckiest thing you can bring to casino, a lot of gamblers do this, is walnuts. Walnuts? Yeah, it's very odd. Bro, you're not even allowed food in the casino, no? No, like put like a walnut in your pocket as like a charm. A walnut. What the f***? Why?

I don't know, but it's some next witchcraft, bro. Some next witchcraft. Like, it makes you lucky when you're gambling. Do you have something lucky that you always carry around with you? Nah. But there's this one time, right? Yeah. I went to church one time. It was like a church group. You know how, like, when you have the mass and then you have, oh, the kids come with us. Oh, after? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So we did this thing, right? We did this thing where we started making our necklaces. We're making necklaces. And they gave me like a dove pendant, like a wooden dove pendant. Okay, yeah. Doves are lucky in general. Yeah. So I got a lucky dove pendant. And then I guess, I think we got it blessed too by the priest, right? So, yo, I have so much more to say after this too. So what happened was I had the necklace, I put it on and I instantly felt like,

I felt good. I felt good. I felt like I was on top of the world. And me and my mom, we went to...

it was you know those pokemarts like you know those asian stores where it's a department store they have everything and then in the random corners yeah yeah exactly exactly yeah they have everything everything yeah so in one of the corners they had like uh game boy games right game boy games game boy cartridges yeah but they're obviously like asian knockoffs okay but i still want to get one so i got one and i and when i got home i opened it up it was a ds game and it was a ds game it was like the r4 and it had like oh

All the games. 50 games, bro. Had like 50 games. But on the box, it didn't say that. It was just random. So I got lucky that day. But what sucks, bro? What sucks, man? What? It broke. That necklace broke. Yeah. The necklace? The necklace broke. And after that, it's just... Yeah, I just had like super good luck that day. And then...

I like sat on it or something. I remember one time in Disney, I was feeling like, I don't know why, but the vibes at Disney are totally different. I was just mad happy. And then we went on this cruise ship, right? And then in one of the seats was a DS. Oh. And that DS had the R4 too. Yeah. And I was like looking through it. I'm like, okay. I was like, dad, if no one comes back, this is mine. Like finders keepers. No one came back for it.

Damn. I had a free DS. I had a free DS. Bro. What would you say would be your luckiest, like, luckiest ever moment? No, day in your life. Luckiest day? Yeah. Damn. That's a good question. I never really think about that. Because I don't even... Would you consider yourself a very lucky person? Uh, yeah. I don't like saying it now that I'm a lucky person. I never say, I never say, or I never, like, think of myself as lucky. Because Loki, after the podcast where I said, I'm the lucky child. Yeah. I started losing at the casino. Yeah.

But it's weird because I was born November 11th. Oh yeah, 11-11. That's like a lucky number. That's a lucky number. So that's what I like to consider myself about. And like low-key, I get put in like really lucky situations. I mean, you met me.

One of the reasons, Loki, one of the reasons why Carlos recruited me for this podcast is because of my luck. Don't lie. Don't lie. Don't lie. Don't lie. Don't lie. Is that why? Bro, I remember one time, Carlos was like, yo, I'm going to play the lottery, but come with me. I'm like, what? No, that was just because I didn't want to go alone. No, no, no. Because you told me. You're like, nah, because Loki, if you and me are both in one together, it's hella lucky. Did I say that? Yeah, you did. Oh, I thought it was just because I didn't want to go alone, bro. No, no, no. Fuck that.

Maybe I told you that because I don't want to go. You're using my luck. There's low-key some energy source here sucking all my life with my luck out. Is it coming back to me? Yeah.

Bro, okay, I have to tell you a story, right? So recently, you ever heard of like an evil eye? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So Sasha told me about this before where somebody could put like an evil eye on you, right? Yeah. I saw this TikTok. I saw this TikTok and it was this girl trying to get rid of it. Yeah. Like stop it from happening because apparently when something like that happens to you, you get all this negative energy and things can go wrong. You don't feel like yourself. It's like, hmm, let me try it because they say,

A lot of people with a lot of eyes with them, they have haters, right? They have haters. They have haters. And that energy goes somewhere. Mm-hmm.

So I'm like, okay, let me give it a try. So me and my sister both did it. So we have two cups. What you're supposed to do, it's called an egg cleanse. Oh, shit. You ever heard about an egg cleanse before? No, no, no. So you're supposed to put an egg in there and water, right? Okay. You're supposed to put a little bit of salt and you're supposed to say a prayer. Actually, my bad. Before you put the egg in there, you take the egg, wash it with alcohol, and you're supposed to do the sign of the cross, rub it around your head. Now,

I believe in a lot of Spanish culture, they do it when they're sick. Like when they're feeling ill and they have no explanation for it. Yeah. They would do this egg cleanse where they take the egg, wash the alcohol and then like pray over them, rub it on where it's hurting. Let's say you have a stomach ache, put it on your stomach, right? Yeah. We do that too. Vicks Vapor Rub. Yeah. So when you crack it and you put it into the cup, you see something there and it's supposed to show the face clearly.

of who's doing the negative energy what tell me so you either see there's a lot of different things you can see there's like a whole chart of different like symbols or whatever yeah yeah so the common one is pins okay so pins means like the hate it means like somebody's putting hate into you yeah hate into you like stabbing into you right so my sister she had a little bit of pins

in her cup like oh that's interesting and they say if you have a big bubble on the top of your glass yeah that represents the evil eye because they think the circle right the big circle so i look at mine bro yeah mine look nothing like my sisters holy shit mine had this huge bubble on the inside and fam it started making the the shape of a head

start making the shape of a head i look at the top you know how my sister had one bubble yeah i had like 20 like mad bubbles on the surface right i get that though and i was looking closer i was looking closer at the thing because it was moving up it was moving up the big bubble the big it was like the yolk or no no it was the the membrane of the egg yeah it was making a shape because that's what you're supposed to look like right look at so i had a little bit of pins there too but it was making the shape

I was looking at it. It's a head, right? Yeah. Look even closer. I see the shape of the eye sockets in a skull. What? And you know the triangle for your nose? Yeah. You know how when you look at a skull and you see the... The silhouettes? The silhouette. I saw that exact silhouette. I wish I took a picture, but I didn't want to jinx myself by taking a picture of it or whatever. Yeah.

Like, I didn't want to take any of that energy with me, right? Yeah. But deadass, like, no lie. I saw a skull. You can ask my sister. She saw the same thing. What the fuck? So was that skull supposed to be, like, the person that was, like, hating on you? We don't know. Or, like... I don't know. What the fuck? There's so many different ways to interpret it, right? Yeah. But...

From what I heard is like, it's supposed to show people that, or at least represent people that hate you. No, that makes sense because your sister isn't in public. She's not a public figure. And she didn't have nothing. You are though. She had like a little bit. So to complete the cleanse, what you're supposed to do to get rid of all the energy, you're supposed to like put, like I think black pepper has some spiritual power to it. Put black pepper onto it.

And you're supposed to dump it into the toilet, but you can't look into the toilet as it pours in. Cause you're holding onto it if you look at it. So you got to look away, dump it in and then flush it without looking. The spiritual shit is so crazy, bro. It's crazy. No, cause even I remember, like I told you again, I did the reading, right? Yeah. My first time ever doing a reading, uh,

Everything was good. So I'm like, yo, I'm amped. I'm going to just put it on my spam. Yeah. I put the full video on my spam. Oh, and you're not supposed to do that. Bro, it wasn't even the person that gave me the reading that told me this. It was another person that was also into crystals. She's like, Gavin, don't do this because the evil eye. I'm like, what's the evil eye? It's like, you're a big figure out in the world and people will like send bad spirits your way. You feel me? Maybe you should do an egg cleanse, bro. Maybe I should. I'm not going to lie. Did I feel...

A lot better. I feel good. I feel like refreshed. Bro, but it's only like 80 people. It's like my friends. But like other people in that spam could be sending me bad energy because they're jealous that I'm getting all the success. Yeah. Like you never know. You never know who can be... But even it could just be like the energy itself. Just the vibe itself. And it just latches on. That's why it's dangerous. That's why you have to keep a close eye. And you have to really judge how you're feeling with somebody. You know what I mean? I know. And after that shit, like after that story, man, I don't know. I'm just...

I hate the type to be flexing on Instagram now. It's because the more you flex, the more eyes you have on you. Right? Yeah. So, boom. They're going to get jealous. More evil eye shit. I was actually going to buy a necklace of the evil eye. Oh, you're supposed to wear that? Yeah. My friend wears it. Oh, really? Yeah. What does it do? Just protect you from all the bad energy. You know, one of our close friends has it in his bio. I look to hate those people. Why? Why?

It's like so extra bro like like no one no one is going on your instagram be like If you're if you're like just a regular person or so you think? So you think bro? Yeah for sure. I might have to put that in my bio Evil spirits man evil spirits that type of shit you have to like proceed with caution. Yeah, I mean because

I was scared that I was going to do something wrong. Like if, if, if you do a certain ritual, like a wrong way. Oh, and then it gets worse. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was scared. Like you can do something wrong and we'll go back. Just all in all, just stay away from all the spirit shit, bro. Yeah. Cause like the year you're brave for doing the egg cleanse shit. Cause I have what do you want to do it? I

I was a little bit scared. I was a little bit scared. I'm not going to count. After I seen that egg shit or skull. Fam, you think I'm lying? I'm actually dead ass. Like I actually saw that shit. Yeah, I know. I don't think you're lying at all. Cause you described it way too, and you were way too excited. No, it was like, it was real fam. Like I saw that. Yeah. Nah, that's, that's. And if you took a picture of it and you. I didn't want it. That's why I didn't want to take a picture. Right.

Because who knows? Who knows the spirits that are following you? Yeah. Maybe you angered dead people too. Oh. Fucking...

I seen something it was like yo Carlos knocking on wood is the most Filipino shit ever yeah apparently it is apparently it is I think it's just I don't know where I got that from I think my mom Loki just put you know how all Filipinos just cure everything with Vicks yeah instead of the evil eye shit and all this curing just do this just put a cross with Vicks oh you know the you know the other one like the oil yeah the um is it Manzanilla something like that yeah I've

Ben done that before too. So I used to always get like stomach aches, right? And it's always right here. Yeah, always. And your mom does the prayer. Always. It would always work. Yeah, no, it works. It works. And I'm pretty sure the oil is just some type of menthol. But it's like all together. The whole ritual in itself, it just does it. I'm telling you, fam. You want to get cursed too? Go to St. Bay Station in Toronto. St. Bay Station?

but why there's some like red lady that's really cursed in in toronto okay so this is what happens right so i think um some guy that was working there he was told by seven to ten people yeah and they've seen this red lady in this red dress and so she would come on 30 seconds right you wouldn't see any feet below her um the cut of her dress on the subway on this on the once everything's gone and there were just workers left she would come boom she would leave disappear after 30 seconds what the

- St. Bay station, if you ever go there, you can feel the spirits. - What if you do, what if you bring a Ouija board there? - I like how you're saying this, but you hate Ouija boards. Like whenever we bring up Ouija, you're like, no, no, no, no, no. - No, I always say it as a joke, 'cause I'm never gonna do it. - Like you're so traumatized to like have Ouija boards around you. - Would you actually do it? Would you do it yourself? 'Cause I know I'm not doing it, but would you do it? - To summon it? - Yeah. Would you at least play with one? I would never play with one.

I would be open to playing with one. Really? Yeah. Really? As long as it doesn't come with me. You feel me? But that's everything, bro. That's everything. I wouldn't come with you. That's everything. Nah. Because if you're opening that book, you're opening that book no matter what, like, who's to say, like, they can't, like, nah, the rules are. Yeah. You can't touch me. You know what I mean? Like, nah, bro. That is true. Okay, maybe when I'm, like, 80 and then I... At that point... No, but that's the worst time to do it. Why? Like, if you're closing the book, you know what I mean? If you're... You're headed out. You're headed out with that. No, you're not.

Nah, bro. That's the worst way. Oh, you're right. You're right. Nah. You're headed out with that? Nah. But then you just have the rosary and shit like that. It's like, at the end, you're at the end of your life, fam. Who cares? You know? There's this really good story I want to say, but we don't have enough time. I'll save it for- What do you mean? We have bare time. It's a long story. I'll save it for the next episode. Okay. It's about this healer. Okay. Right? My Lolo actually went to when he had cancer. Okay. Yeah. I don't want to get into it in this episode. What?

Stay tuned for the next one. So stay tuned for the next episode on that. It's like really deep. Oh word. Okay. So this is what I also searched up too. So there's a Japanese bloody Mary. Oh really? You ever heard of this? Nah. Okay. So it's called the Hanukkah sun or the toilet monster. Oh shit. Okay. So, so this is how you summon it. This is how you summon it. Right? So if you're brave or, or like stupid, you go up to the third floor, go into the bathroom, go into the third stall. Oh,

Knock on it three times. And then once you do that, you look in the toilet, a lady will appear with a dress on. Oh, shit. Out the thing. And you say, Hanukkah-san, Hanukkah-san, are you here? Don't say that, bro. We're not in Japan, bro. Relax. We're not in Japan. But you say that three times, right? She comes out the thing. Oh, shit.

Chill, chill, chill. We're not doing that today. Chill, chill. Bro, why'd you say that? No, no, no. And then what happens is that she drags you into the toilet with her and you're never seen again. Oh. That's a flushed away shit, bro. Flushed away shit, man. You're dead after that, bro.

Yeah, Loki, I don't know why I said that. Why would you say that, bro? We're in a dark room too? That's crazy. Dog, and we have the wave of Okinawa right here, fam. Yeah, you have Loki a lot of like Japanese-inspired stuff. You have the Zen Garden, the bamboo, the katana, the anime, the manga. Oh my god. Do you have any like dolls? You don't have any dolls. Hell no, why would I have a doll? Oh, but I still have the devil. Oh.

What if like I don't tell you and I leave the Deadpool action figure in your room and one day like you just see it? I would be so pissed fam. I would be so pissed. I would literally go I would even tell you I'm coming I'm just gonna come up to your thing knock on your door and like slap you across the face.

Like why would you do that? What if like I didn't do it? What if I actually didn't do it? Then I would, yeah. At that point, yeah. I'm going out fam. Give me the Ouija board. If you actually see a spirit, what's your move though? What's my move? Like if you see a spirit in your house or like you're haunted, what are you doing? I'm gonna try and negotiate. Negotiate with what bro? Like a spirit, if you're here for bad stuff,

I will be good. I won't like whatever you want me to do. I'll do it. Just please leave me. That's how I negotiate it. Cause you know, those ones where like, um, you have a test or some shit and then like you're negotiating with God. Like your God, please like just pass, like let me pass this test and I'll be good. I won't do, I won't drink. I swear. I won't do all that bad stuff. Right.

you know i would do that what would you do i would just look for like an elder i'd look for somebody that knows their stuff okay i look for somebody that knows their stuff yeah i would low-key the first thing just go to my mom because she has the third eye oh yeah and then i'll be like yo mom you see anything and then if she says yeah yeah we're going out the house elder out the house that's so because imagine imagine your house is haunted now you got to leave your house and now you got to go to the next one does the ghost take over that one or will it follow you like

It just moved in. That sucks. Imagine, imagine. Oh, we're going, we're going there now? Say it loud. You have to spend. You're going to Miami? Oh. I like the weather there. You have to spend money just because the ghost is in your house? I'd be pissed. I'd be like, why are we spending more rent just because there's a ghost in our house?

That's kind of fucked up when you really think about it. So I heard this story before, right? I have this story. This is like a campfire story. Okay, yeah. I'll have one after that. Yeah, one? Yeah. So this is a woman that lives in her house alone, right? And she would notice sometimes her food would be like half eaten. Or like she would have snacks. Let's say you have a can of Pringles in the cupboard. She would open it and it's like already eaten. Like, oh, I didn't even touch this. I don't remember eating this, right? She would make food and like missing ingredients. Like, what the fuck?

Where's my stuff, right? And she would always, always, always be missing clothes. And that's something we all...

yeah what the we always like miss clothes like where's this one piece where's this one piece so anyways what happened was one night she sat on like her chair in the living room right okay she was sitting in her chair like this and she was watching a tv show it was a really funny tv show she started laughing and then she like smacked her chair like this like yeah so laughing so she hit the back of her chair and she heard a oh

So they opened up the chair Or she opened up the chair And there's an imprint Where the man is sitting Where a man is sitting In this position And he was living there It's like the butt mark In the big ass chair In like a big ass leather chair One of those old chairs With like you know The puff print type of thing Yeah

sitting in there and you would never know he was there fam what do you do what happened after what happened i'm pretty sure she got murdered fam yeah there's no other story about that she's gone murdered it's either you get murdered by by the the the person like a ghost or you go out yourself like after seeing something like bro one of this one of the most terrifying things going up was like

Man, what if there's somebody that lives in that house? Yeah, yeah. That we don't know about. In the attic? Oh my goodness. That's f***ing crazy. And I have... My room is right above an attic. Like, to my closet, there's the attic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if ghosts want to attack...

They're going out the attic. It's me first. It's like, you ever watch the movie Parasite? Yeah. Parasite is crazy. It's like Parasite. Parasite is crazy. Living in your house without you knowing. Yeah. So crazy. Okay, so here's my story. Let me hear it. This one's crazy. When I was reading it, it reminded me of your Dora the Explorer doll story. That's a real story. I know.

Okay, so I think this was also in Japan. There's a doll called Akapu, right? Yeah. Which means bowl cut doll. So she has hair. Yeah. But it's in a bowl cut style, right? So her older brother got that for his little sister as a present. His little sister died because of a cold, right? And the family always just kept that doll, right? And one day, it started growing its hair. Oh, fuck. Growing its hair longer and longer, right? Yeah. So they were like, what the fuck?

What the fuck? No! That's crazy.

That's fucked, that's fucked, that's fucked. That's scarier than Chucky. - No, oh God, that's scarier than Chucky. - That's scarier than Chucky, what the fuck? Bro, she's coming back to life, dog. - Okay, what if something like that comes to life and then becomes like a phenomenon? - No, I feel like that is what's happening at that moment. - Really, right now? - Like that's reincarnation through her, her spirit went into that doll and there was like some crazy thing that happened that now she can live through that doll. - That's crazy. - Yeah. - That's fucked, man.

Do you think there's going to be a moment where they really dive into the science behind these things and try and recreate them and take advantage of it? Yes, bro. Or do you think they already do that? Did you hear the thing that robots... There's something robots can do now. Oh, they can talk? They can like speak a different language? No, it's like...

Was it fucking... It was something human-esque that robots and CPUs can do now that really... Oh, they can get jealous, right? Yeah, they can feel emotions now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They can feel different emotions. I'm like...

Wait a minute. That's crazy. Elon, chill. Oh, Elon said 2022. We're going to start putting the chips in. Oh, yeah. The brain chips. Make your money now, boys. Because if you can't afford a fucking rocket ship out, you're gone. Bro, oh, yo, there's this dark thing I heard too. There's this new like chamber thing.

It's like this suicide chamber... That you can actually order... And it will give you a death... Where you don't really feel any pain... And it just feels like you're going to sleep... Oh fuck... And it's actual like... It's a capsule... It looks like a time machine... They made it look super futuristic... There's glass on top...

And it's marketed, I think, in the Netherlands, somewhere there. And they can buy it. And if they want to commit suicide, rather than going to the doctor, injection, whatever, they can do it on their own time, just have it in their crib and then just like press the button. That's some shit that Netherlands would have too. No, but they're so nice there, no? Is it? So I'm pretty sure their prisons are one of the nicest prisons

In the world Like it looks like a hotel Oh for real? Yeah Even their Their tuition is free Oh yeah in the Netherlands Yeah I read about that Tuition is free But you know It's weird cause You can have that catfish Oh come to the Netherlands It's all fun No but I'm pretty sure You can't just join Yeah exactly It's like a private club Like you can't just come there And live That's just like in Hawaii I'm pretty sure Mistake me if I'm wrong But like

I'm pretty sure Hawaiians, if you want to live there, you got to be like grandfathered in or something. Like you can't just move there and just buy land. Like you have to do a- A ritual? Not a ritual, but like-

You have to be allowed. You have to be accepted or something. I'm pretty sure. Or at least it's like you can't just take land and build some shit. It would ruin it. For sure. I remember the... What do you call this? Jokoi's thing too. He was making fun of how all the roads... Because you were in Hawaii. All the roads in Hawaii sound the same. Is that true? Oh yeah, they do. It's like ah, ah, ah to E-R. But it's so funny. Olulu, whatever. Olulu.

Ulu, whatever. Yeah, yeah. They're like that. They're just bare vowels. Yeah, yeah. Even names. Even names. There's like English names to Hawaiian names. So my sister's name is Mikayla, right? Yeah. So they have like license plates that show the English and then the Hawaiian version on it. Oh shit, so what's her name in like Hawaii? So in Hawaiian, we're looking for Mikayla. It's just Mikayla. The Hawaiian version of Mikayla is Mikayla. Basic. And then the actual name is like

Michelle or something. Oh, what? Yeah, it's like the American version of it. Or it's spelled differently. It's Michelle-a. Michelle-a? Yeah. I guess it's still Michaela, but it's spelled like Michelle-a. Oh, okay, okay. Right? Yeah. This whole podcast has been about names. Oh, yeah, it has. It has. The name thing is goaded. The name thing is goaded. All right, you want to end it there? Yeah, we can end it there, bro. All right, thank you everyone for watching this episode of Jumper's Junk. Yes, sir. Make sure you guys tune in for the next episode next week.

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