EP.87 - REAL CONJURING STORIES, ANNABELLE HAS ESCAPED, & GAVIN CAUGHT ON FIRE
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All right, this shit's about to get spooky. Spooky. Should we turn off the lights? No. Yo, if I turn off the lights, you'll actually fucking run out of the room. I swear to God. Is that bad? Why? Should we change the lights this episode? Is it going to be all spooky? I don't know. I don't know. Okay.

I don't want to get too scared. I don't want to get too scared. Because we have the vlog coming up too. Oh, yeah. That one. We're going to go to. Make sure. For all you guys that don't know, because I dropped the tunnel vlog, I decided, yo, we should go to this. There's this Airbnb that used to be a haunted house. I think it's called the Beck House. It's in Canada. And it's literally like a whole lore haunted house shit about it. Yeah. And they turned that shit into Airbnb. So I'm like, fuck it. Let's do it. Gavin doesn't want to do it.

But like, let's just do it for fun, bro. I'm trying to make up excuses like, shit, I got a test. It's summer, bro. But we're going to do it. We're going to do it. Yeah. All right. But that's besides the point, fam. Okay. Literally yesterday. Just yesterday. I was excited to tell you this, fam. Okay. Okay. So, you know, you know, the conjuring? Yeah. What about it? You know how, I think there's like a whole conjuring, like multiverse, not multiverse, but universe. Universe? They have like,

Annabelle. They have the white lady. Oh, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah. So that's all connected. Yeah. So all of these different mysteries like Annabelle, The Conjuring, Poltergeist, all of these horror movies, all of these ghost stories, they all come from one couple. Okay. Like one couple that they're demonologists like specialists. Wait, so that couple's seen everything. Yeah, they get called. They get checked off the list. They get called to go in and they're pretty much hired to...

do rituals to take away the demons. Oh, that's fucked. Now what's crazy is every single like object or fuck, I'm getting chills. Like thing that they touch? No, every single possessed item they have or came across of, they kept it.

Why? And they put it in a museum. Oh, yeah, obviously. They have to lock it away. Yeah. Why? Did our glass break or some shit like that? Nah. So there's this YouTube video. Fuck, I forgot the YouTubers. Please link it down. I want to give some respect to them because that was a crazy video. Shit, what happened?

These YouTubers and they went to go tour the museum. Okay. So there's this tour guide and they're showing them around. This is literally just the collection of all of these cursed objects and all of these like mysteries they unsolved, right? Yeah, yeah. Bro, so this tour guide, he was the friend of the couple. Okay. I think their names were... Fuck, I forgot their name. Anyways, so...

They're the conjuring people, right? In the conjuring movie, you know the dad and the mom? Yeah. Yeah, those are the people. Wait, from the actual movie? Yeah, from the actual movie. Those are the people. Oh, shoot. What the hell? No, no, no. Those aren't like the actresses, the actors. But those are like who it's based off of. Oh, okay. That's who it's based off of. The actors were the actual people like seeing all this. Nah, nah, nah. Show, show, show, show. The actors, that's different. That's different. Based on a true story. Nah, they're older now. They died. But this was back in like the 50s.

I think 60s, 70s, 80s, around like that. - Okay, so it's based on the story of the two parents. - Yeah, it's based on all of their adventures and shit. All of their things they had to go and fix, right? So this tour guy, he's telling these YouTubers the stories of each cursed object, right? And he told them, "You'll hear shit about the movie, but I'm gonna tell you the real story." Yeah, right? So first one was Annabelle.

- I'll tell you about Annabelle, bro. So the true story about Annabelle, did you know it's actually a Raggedy Ann doll? - No, what? - Do you know how in the Annabelle movie it's like a scary looking doll, she kind of looks like a zombie, right? - Yeah, yeah. - Yo, it's actually a Raggedy Ann doll. I don't know if you know what that is. - No. - Hold on. - You have to show me a picture. - Like a rag doll? - Here, here, let me see. - It's like this.

that's literally what Annabelle is oh it's not hollow it's not hollow it's like yeah yeah yeah I got it it's not in Annabelle you're used to seeing this one fam it looks crazy in Annabelle used to see that it looks like a human yeah yeah but the actual one is the Raggedy Ann doll now it's crazy right so the way they found Annabelle was they got hired to go to this like I think it was a

a nurse was taking care of people in a home. Yeah. Right. And it was gifted to somebody by their sister. Yo, bro. What? So, so the moment they got it. Yeah.

Whoever touched it or whoever challenged it died. You know what I mean by challenge? Challenge, no. Like, oh, I'm going to take this challenge and have it for like a day. So check this out. They got called a priest over to look at Annabelle, right? Of course. It's like, who else is going to look at the dog? This shit's possessed. Like shit's happening, right? The priest comes over.

And he tells them like, this is just a doll. He throws it. He's like, God is more powerful than whatever is in that. Right. And the demonologist said, yo, that's true. But you aren't. Oh, that's true. Right. That's true. But you aren't. Right. The moment he threw the doll across the room. Yeah.

He got psychic cuts across his chest. Nah. Through his shirt. Nah. Yeah. Now, when he got sent home, like he was headed back home. Yeah. He didn't make it home. Obviously. He crashed in a car crash because he lost control of his car. Swerved off the road and crashed.

Fuck, man. Damn. That was only one person that tested Annabelle. Like, there's other people that tested her. Right? Wait, who are the actual people that had Annabelle? Did they die too? The people that died? No, no, no, no. They were the demonologists, so they know what's up. But that doesn't make them, like, uh...

What do you call that? Like, they can't die from that? Just because they're demonologists? No, bro. That's a priest. I would rather take a priest than a demonologist. Nah, listen, listen, bro. Listen, listen. Because they're dealing with cursed shit all the time. Feel me? Also, it's like... I guess. They're dealing with cursed shit all the time. They know all the black magic. They know how to deal with things, right? Okay. They have, like, special...

Precautions like they wash your hands with holy water, put on separate mitts and stuff. Yeah. There's a whole list of stuff you do. It's like real jujitsu kaisen. So, damn, what happened was...

The guy, the demonologist now. He took Annabelle and brought her home because they just wanted to take it away from that situation. Let's get her out of the house, right? He took it home. On his way home, he was losing control of his car. Just like the priest. Losing control of his car. I saw Annabelle in the back mirror. No. No.

Bro What happened There's more of that too What happened So there was a couple There was a couple Yeah So this was after The demonologist took her And the demonologist Like he put her in a case Right This case is blessed It's a special precaution So Annabelle can't escape Right Now He put Annabelle On tour So like Regular people Can go look at her Okay Feel me So it's kind of like It's kind of like Amusement Like you look and like Oh shit That's the cursed doll Whatever right Yeah

There's this couple. Yeah. This couple looked at Annabelle and the guy, right? He's like, there's no way. There's no way this is real. Dog. So what happened? He challenged her. Oh, to what? The moment he challenged her. Challenged her as in like, oh, you're not real, blah, blah. Uh-huh. Him and his girlfriend. Yeah. When they're headed home that same night, they were on a motorcycle, right? Yeah.

They lost control and they crashed into a tree. The guy died and the girl was left in the hospital for months.

and when the girl woke up from a coma you know she said what she said the last thing she could remember was them laughing about the doll and her seeing the doll in the rear view mirror no no wait of the motorcycle like in the mirror the motorcycle okay wait wait hold on let me guess what's right so when you challenge annabelle yeah do you have to be in her presence though no what

- No, no. Then why are you telling me this bro? Nah, 'cause we're laughing about it bro. - Oh, okay. I'm gonna freak you out even more. Ready? - No, no. Why, why, why? - So, I'm about to turn the podcast. - Bro, this is, this is, you ready bro? - No, because I gotta stop laughing there. - Listen, listen. Those YouTubers, right? That made that tour. - Yeah. - They made a video after, right? - Yeah.

Releasing Annabelle. Oh, yeah. Dog, they released Annabelle to the world, fam. What? It's out right now? They opened that shit. It's out right now. It's free? I don't know. Annabelle's free? I don't know.

- Yo, so I don't know if you watch a movie. - Wait, so why are we talking about it? - All right, listen, listen, listen, hold on, hold on. - Yeah. - I'm gonna tell you, that wasn't the scary part actually. I'm gonna tell you the scary part. - What's the scary part? - No, 'cause remember when you walked into him like it's about to get spooky? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - This is where it's about to get spooky. - Okay, bro. - This is where it's about to get spooky, bro. Listen, so I was watching the video, right? I'm already intrigued. - Yeah.

He's talking about the Annabelle stuff. He's going through all of these other, I guess, like, cursed objects and shit, right? Bro, there's this one, like, they call it an idol. Yeah. Fuck, I'm getting the chills. Bro. So they call it, like, an idol, and it was found in a forest somewhere in the States, right? This hunter. Bro, I hear noises. I swear to God, bro. Like, I hear footsteps, and then, like, the door just creaked. Chill, chill, chill. No, I swear, though. I'm not lying. I'm not lying, bro.

Damn, this is, it's about to get spooky. I'm going to be real, it's about to get spooky. I actually hear shit though. I'm going to put some background detail, right? So this happened in the States. You know Sandy Hook, the massacre? Yeah, yeah. It happened like around the area, but that's besides the point. So in this forest, this hunter came across this idol, right? And when he first saw it, he knew right away like something was wrong. Yeah.

Now, the moment he walked away from it, a man with really short white hair and a cropped white beard started walking beside him. Just not even talking to him, just started walking with him. So they're walking together for like five minutes, bro. And all of a sudden, he just points to the right and he just walks away. Now, the guy like looks and he just disappears. Listen, listen, listen.

The hunter contacted the demonologist now. This is the guy, like the famous demonologist guy, right? And he said, there's this idol. There's this like, it's weird fam. I'm going to show you a picture. I don't even know if I want to show you a picture because I think even just looking at it is cursed. So the demonologist, right? He gets sent to the forest. The Minjajas goes to the forest. He finds this idol and he knows exactly what it is. What is it?

He knows it's this satanic idol used by this cult. The satanic cult. And the guy with the white hair and the short white beard, he's like a very coveted witch. Very coveted. He can cast spells on you. Okay. He didn't even want to say his name. Apparently saying his name is cursed. Yeah, that's weird, man. Check this out. What? I was watching this video, right? Uh-huh.

My sister walks into the room. I'm on the part where he's talking about the guy with the white hair, right? Yeah. My sister walks in the room and she asked me something and I look to her. Yeah. My body goes numb. What? I swear to God, my body went numb. Dude, what? Just because you were watching the video? Yeah. I froze. She was talking to me. I froze and I couldn't speak.

I swear to God, Gavin. What? I swear to God. Yo, stop. Like, that actually happened. I swear to God. And then, like, something... Like, I couldn't, like, talk. Yo, bro. Yo, what are we doing, man? Damn, I'm serious. I'm dead ass. Like, she looked at... Like, you could probably ask my sister. Like, I don't think she noticed until, like... I snapped out of it. I'm like...

Look, I snapped on it, right? Dog, okay, I'm going to continue the story. Don't cut to me. Listen, listen. Yeah. So this guy, right? Remember how I said it was like in this part of the US? Yeah. Now, the house that this satanic leader stayed at, this house, the address of the house...

is linked to many like murders or terrible things that happened to the people that live there, right? Yeah. So obviously, if you're the leader of a satanic cult, obviously some spooky shit is going to happen, right? Some demonic shit is going to happen. The house...

that this satanic leader owned, one of the people that lived there was the Sandy Hook shooter. No way. Yeah. No way. So he was one of the people that actually lived there. Yeah. That's crazy. It's crazy. And the...

what's crazy is this happened like way way apart from each other i mean like the sandy hook shooting happened what like 2013 something like that yeah fam this stuff happened in like the 70s 60s i don't know if it's um it was the sandy hook guy but remember the guy that was getting um investigated on yeah he was like oh the demons in my head oh he said that yeah that's that's mostly all the school shooters they're like the voices the demons in my head are talking

That's why I did it. See, that's why it's scary. Yeah. Dog, I swear to God, like, can I show you the picture of it? No, no, don't. Don't show me the picture. Because why? Wait, okay. When you see the picture of, like, the satanic idol, like, you'll see what I mean. Like,

There's something super eerie about it. Yeah. And you can tell like there's something wrong. Like there's a power, fam. Yeah. I'm not, no, there's no way because you already got like stunned. Like it goes through a flashback. Listen, listen, listen. The rest of the day, I was scared, fam. Yeah. See, that shit happened to me. I went to the washroom, bro. I looked at myself in the mirror. I'm like,

what the fuck happened? See, that's why it's like, the more you know, man, that it's bad. Like if you didn't know this, we would have had a regular podcast. We would, we would have not been going to the Airbnb. See, like if you didn't tell me that story when we were going to the Airbnb, I would have been blessed. But now you're scared. I'm definitely going to make an excuse. I'm not coming. You will not see me in that vlog.

bro chill chill you have to come you have to come you have to come you have to come it's jump right now it's jumpers there's no jump at the end you have to come no but okay but back because i'm actually concerned about the annabelle story yeah so like to challenge it you don't have to be in this vicinity like is there is that like i don't know i'm gonna knock on wood i don't know

All I know, this is all I know is the people that challenged it were there. Like they were in the presence of it. But what did they say? Like, oh, that's not real? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why are you pointing at my phone? Huh? I don't know. My phone's connected to the internet. What's connected to the internet? Stop. Oh, shit. No, I do not challenge. The video is connected to the internet. No, but word on the street, Carlo said that he wants smoke. And no! Knock on wood. Never said that. I don't claim no negative energy.

dog never said that no no but that's that's actually scary though like the fact that it's free right now like free that's scary there's 10 minutes of us just laughing about that story not like i i kind of i kind of want you to watch the tour okay like watch that tour video

Just to get an idea Just to get an idea Of what it is Because they literally Have like Let's say Let's say my room right You see how I have All these VHS's Toys or whatever right Imagine all of those Are now like Cursed objects Like each one Has their own story Their own demon Attached to it fam Yeah No that's very That's fucked

All in the same spot too. Feel me? Yeah. And this happened in the US, right? It's in the States. I'm surprised it didn't happen in like Japan and shit. Because I have so much stories about Japan. No, no. The States has some fuck shit, bro. There's some real stuff that... I think... You know the Lee Enfield house? You ever heard of that? Oh, yeah. I talked about this. You talked about the Lee Enfield house. What did you say about it again? Oh.

That was a couple episodes back. I just know it's haunted. And I feel like, I think they have the Airbnb too. Oh, they do. They do. Yeah, yeah, they do. That was the one. So, listen. It's in New York. So, all of those. Literally, the most coveted, the most known hauntings in America, maybe even in the world. Word. The demonologists. Yeah. Demonologists.

Yeah, them. Those two people, they were the ones that went and investigated. Literally every single one. They have some shit with like black men. Bro, they had this like, it was this like artifacts they stole from a witch doctor. Yeah, you never steal. I don't know why men steal that. No, some guy stole it from a witch doctor. I don't know. What happened to the guy?

No, he was paralyzed from his neck down. He couldn't speak anymore. They took him to the hospital. Damn. The doctors couldn't explain what happened to him. What? The doctors couldn't explain what happened to him. They just pushed it off the side like, he's just paralyzed now. Yeah. But the demonologist knew.

He stole that dark magic. How much do you think demonologists get paid? I don't even know, bro. Or is that just a livelihood? Like they don't get paid for it. They just do it. And then like they have a side job. See, what do you think motivates them to do that though? I feel like some of it is intrigue. Some of it is like the mystery. Yeah, but going that far, I feel like there's...

I don't know. Yeah. Probably just... Someone has to be the mystery, man. Probably just once you get into one, then you just want to do the other one. But I don't feel like that's... Like, I got to get paid for that shit. There's no way I'm doing that for free. They get paid. Yeah. They get paid, but, like, I think what it is more is them, like, super interested and they're already... It's kind of like, let's say you're a fan of basketball. Yeah. And then you become, like, a basketball coach. You know what I mean? Okay, true, yeah. Maybe they're interested in the paranormal. They take joy in that...

That is wild. Yeah. So bro, okay. Going back to the, remember the idol I told you about? Yeah. So when he brought that idol home, his wife got sick.

For I think like shit like three weeks she was sick in the hospital. So similar to what happened to that other guy. Doctors didn't know what happened to her, right? But the demonologist, he knew exactly what happened. He knew, I know who made this idol and I know who put a spell on you. And it lasted for like three weeks and then all of a sudden she was healthy. Ew, man. And the reason his wife got sick and not him was because this like satanic leader knew

he couldn't get to that guy because he knows like reverse rituals and stuff but she doesn't so so do you need to so you said you needed a prayer right after this a lot yeah so after i watched after i watched that video i got a protection you know the scariest ones like did you you watched you definitely watched the vlog back and now all you guys are like commenting like um time stamps just random time stamps yeah did you hear the one where dino was about to because this was the most obvious one

I didn't think it was fake. I think I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah. So Dino lit the candle and right before it was like, hey, did you, you heard that? Yo, I was like, what? No, no, but there was another one. There was another one where it's like, me. Me.

That has to be Eric, bro. But the thing is, the thing I was like, that sounded, I don't think Eric does that voice. Like, I know the voice he does. I don't know, man. I don't know. Yo, yo. Okay, if you guys don't know what we're talking about, we're talking about the Blue Ghost Tunnel vlog I dropped earlier. So go back and just go through the comments. There's like two most, like, predominant ones. The timestamps. The help me. And then there's the, no, there's another one, Yavin. No, but.

This one I thought it was fake. Remember you panned it up to the ghost tunnel when we were leaving? All you heard was, what was that? What was that? I actually didn't see that one. What? Fam, you left it. It was like a literally random ass scene because I know you seen it. You left it because you knew there was a sound there. It was a random clip. You literally just panned up. All you heard was, wait, for real? Yo, stop, bro. Stop. It was so obvious, Carlos. Come on.

Don't scare me man. I swear to God, man. I swear to God. Fuck, bro. Okay, go back. Nah, the fucked one was... What? You guys aren't supposed to be here. I did. Okay, I signed her. Who said that shit, bro? Who said that shit? That's a sentence. That shit is a sentence, man. Oh, shit.

No, I heard that too, but I'm like, no, this can't be fam. And it sounded like a whisper. It did not sound like a whisper though. Okay, here, this is what I thought it was. Cause you know that those things where like you listen to it over, but it's different sentences, but you tell your mind. Yeah, that's what it is. I think that's what it is too. Cause I was reading it at first. I didn't hear anything, but then I was like, read this sentence or like, listen to it. Yeah. I was like,

It's like brainstorm green needle

It's like that shit, right? No, real shit, real shit. Oh my God. But no, when I heard the hey, especially when you guys were going to light up the candle, I was like, yo. And we were standing in like the vicinity where they did that ritual. Yeah, that's fucked. That was so fucked, man. That shit is fucked, bro. But yeah, those are the worst ones when you go back and see something. And see something. Because I have a story where there was a dad and a daughter, right? Mm-hmm.

And they went on the beach. It was somewhere in Japan, but they went on a beach, right? I'll show you the picture after. He was just randomly taking pictures of his daughter on the beach, right? Thought nothing of it. Took like, what, 20 pictures? Went back home, and this is what he saw. I'm going to see if you notice that at first glance. Yeah. This is the picture that he took. Do you see anything creepy? Not that guy, but anything in the background that you see? Fuck, I hate these ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

There's a man standing behind her. Fam, you see the boots? Yeah. Standing behind her. So he put the photos on Reddit and everyone's saying that was the death of a samurai warrior. And he appeared behind her. Wait, wait, wait. Let me see the picture one more time. Yeah, because fam, he took multiple pictures. You see the samurai boots? Those are samurai boots. Yo!

That is like... Yo, those are modern boots, fam. That shit is... They're old ass boots, fam. Yo, that's crazy. What the fuck? I know. Holy fuck. And look, there's like other pictures. Look, you see it clearly, fam. Like, it's fucked. Everyone on Reddit was panicking. That's some like time travel shit too. I know, I know. So, do you think when ghosts, they die, they're stuck in that form forever? In that form? In that form. Oh, in that form. In that form.

To be honest? Cause look, if you die as a spirit, I guess we'll never know the truth. Yeah, but why would you come back to life though? That's weird, bro. Yeah. That's weird. The fact that it only showed up- What kind of camera? Was it a film camera? No, it was just regular phone. It was just digital? Yeah, that's why I was like, when we were taking photos, that's scary. Cause what if we actually saw something we can't see with our eyes, but we can see through our phones? Yeah.

Because I know there's shit in, like, infrared we can't see. Yeah. But it can be picked up. That's why those ghost hunters, they use, like, the thermal shit. Yeah, yeah. And I don't know anything about the spirit box. But if we do take it, like, and it starts talking to us, I'm gone. Like, we're leaving. I don't know if I want to do that shit, bro. That's why. I feel like that's too much. Yeah. And we're driving there. We're going to go on a long drive. So probably in that area, there's nothing around it. Once we go home at night... Okay. Okay.

This is a really bad idea. This is a crazy idea. Are we sleeping over? No, bro. I don't want to sleep over. You got to pay me the ad revenue of that video. I got to be guaranteed at least a million views and some money for that. Yo, Dino wants to sleep there, fam. Eric wants to sleep there too. Eric wants to sleep there. Eric moves like a white person, though. So, like...

Listen, listen, listen. I'm down to explore it because you know me, I love exploring the unknown. But when it messes with our future, you feel me? And bad luck in our future, why would we want to mess with that? You feel me? For like what? 15k views? We'll figure it out. We'll see the vibes. Once we see the vibes, we're already in the vibes. You feel me? It's done. It's done. We're locked in. You ever play with fire?

Yes. Oh, you know, there's a crazy story where we were all just sitting around and doing camping and we were doing...

We were just roasting s'mores, right? So my dumbass cousin, he puts a s'more on the stick, right? Yeah. And he puts it in the fire. And he's one of those guys that loves playing like... Or he loves like the burn... He's like a pyrotechnic. Yeah, he likes the burnt marshmallows a lot. Ew. He loves it. So he lit the marshmallow on fire. Yeah. And like he started going like this to try and get it out. Swinging his stick around. Oh, shit. The marshmallow, of course, it landed on my bucket hat. Yeah.

Still fire. So everyone's looking at me and I'm like, I'm still roasting my marshmallow. I feel something. Yeah, I don't see it. I'm like, yo, it's something like my head is burning. I'm like, what the fuck is that? And then there's like, yo, Gavin, like wipe your head. You know what I did, fam? You know, because in elementary school, they tell you duck and roll. Stop, drop and roll. Stop, drop and roll. I stopped, but it was on my... Just throw that shit off, bro. I was going like this.

Because I was in such a panic. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't know what to do. But yeah. Why didn't they just... Why didn't they tell you when it dropped? They gave you a second? They were so calm. They were so calm. Everybody was like, yo, yo, the fire. Like imagine it landed on my face. I would have had like a scar.

Damn. It'd be like Prince Zuko. Real shit, real shit. I think there's some real spiritual stuff with fire though. There has to be. With fire? Remember that time? Oh, I have a crazy story that I remember my cousin told me too. No, remember the time we were at the cottage? Yeah. And then the smoke? What smoke? Bro, I don't know if you remember this. No, what happened? Yo, all I remember... No, never mind. Yeah.

We have a campfire yeah, and then I was walking right yeah And this is at a time this at a time like we thought um I got cursed remember yeah So I was walking around the fire wherever I stood right I started moving around the seats because there was too much smoke coming to my face remember that mmm I'm like yo, why is there so much smoke and I move yeah wherever I sat I

The smoke would come to my face. Okay. Every single position. Like I went beside you. All of a sudden, boom. The smoke's coming to our face now. I move. The wind's blowing another way. Yeah. The smoke's coming to my face again. Remember that shit? Yeah. Okay. I remember that shit. Yeah. But at the same time, I was just thinking the wind, but Loki, there was no wind. There's no wind that night, fam. There's no wind that night.

So there's something about you, bro. No, but you know, but you know, because it's a Filipino story. Yeah. One of my titos was telling me in the campfire. But remember that story where he took a piss in the woods and didn't say tabi po? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or something like that? I remember that. I think this is connected. I might be wrong, but

They were all gathered around the fire, right? And as soon as they lit it up, right? There was a face that came out of the fire. Like, because just right after they say Tabi Po. So the face came out of the fire. What the? You feel me? So you never know what happens with fire. You can, you can trigger a demon from that. Because what's associated with fire? Hell. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So like, if you ignite it, gates of hell opened. You,

Yo, you think that happens too? When fire? Whenever you light up a fire, a gate of hell, it's like a wormhole. Like a gate of hell is open and some spirits come out. If it's for the right people that are dissing, like who challenged? Yo, that might be a thing. Because fire is always used in every ritual though, even if it's good, right? One of the things you can do to protect yourself against paranormal experiences or against a demon, a ghost, whatever. What?

Is that house we're going to. Yeah. The Beck house. In one of the cupboards, they have a single long white candle. Okay. And with a note attached to it. What the fuck? It says to keep away the spirits, light the candle. So a single like white candle. You know the church ones? Yeah. That would keep them away, right? Yeah, yeah. Now another thing, this is the demonologist's advice. Okay. So if you ever feel like you're being attacked, Mm-hmm.

You have to pretend yourself in a white light. What do you mean? Like you're just around white? Just a white, like you're under a white light.

Oh, okay. And that's supposed to be like God's grace to protect you. And you have to like say a prayer and ask for protection. Holy smokes. Yeah. Okay. That's what he said. That's what he said to everybody. So when we go to that Airbnb, just keep that in the back of your head. If I get too scared, are you going to see me in the corner like this? I'm just frozen like... Just pretend you're pretending. God's grace. But anything... Look, look. Obviously, we're going to be scared, right? Yeah. But I feel like the more we feed into like...

Let's get scared. That shit will become scarier. No, no. I feel like that's mostly it. It's just mindset. If you come in... Because I remember watching one of your vlogs. Yeah. I think it was the bridge one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Sophia was like, I don't care if I get haunted. Even if she does get haunted, she wouldn't even fucking care. She wouldn't even care. Exactly. I want the ghost to kill me. Like, what the fuck? That's someone you should be worried about. No, but Sophia is different. Yeah, she is different. She is different. But like that...

That's there's no way if you go in with that mindset, nothing will scare you but you know us, you know us like we will hype that shit up If we see any shadows, we'll like whoa like But I think that's what makes it fun. That's what makes it fun, bro It gets to a point where it's not fun when it actually becomes That's the problem. That's the problem if we go in there and we think it's all fun and jokes Yeah, and all of a sudden we see shit floating. Yeah, see

That's crazy. Nah. Or what if I'm pranking all of y'all? Oh, that would, yo, you should never have told that to me. Yo. Because now I'm a suspected. If the candles start floating, I'm going to be like, nah, that's not a ghost. That's Carlos. Guys, it's Carlos. Yo, but what if, what if like you think it's a prank and you look at my face, I'm like, I just breathed, fam.

Wait, but okay. I'm not. Yeah. Usually I would like roast it and be like, nah, I would troll and be like, nah, since it's on Airbnb, it's not haunted, but you can't do that. Has there actually been people like vlogs there? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And like creepy shit happens. Haunted. Okay. Haunted.

There's no games, fam. Yeah, I know. The real deal. Yeah. It's like the equivalent of like, let's go to the conjuring house. The conjuring house is different because it's like a tier higher. I would never do that, yeah. I feel like we're just warming up for that. I don't know why. Okay, would you ever go to a conjuring house? No, no. My life has become ghost hunting now. I've never... Yo, when I was a kid, fam, I wanted to be like a lawyer, a doctor. Not a fucking podcaster that does ghost hunters.

Like that's how you know. - I rather, honestly, I rather go out and look for like, the Loch Ness monster. - No, I would rather go out and like explore like human, like maybe like gangs, you feel me? - I feel like that's more dangerous bro. - I would rather explore gangs than paranormal. - Where's the fun in that? - What do you mean? - Where's the fun in that? - I get to learn like all the like, what happens and shit like that. And then like, but paranormal, it's always with you.

See, that's why we're different. Because for me, it's like...

I already know that shit exists. - No, I would- - You know what I mean? - No, so you're saying our gangs are not scarier than paranormal? - No, what I'm saying is like, you know gangs exist. - Yeah, I know. - Do you know the Loch Ness Monster exists? - No, I don't know a bunch of gangs exist. That's why I'm like, yo, I'm gonna try and find them. - No, you do, you do know. - I know. - Everybody knows that shit. That shit is prevalent in every big city, feel me? Like, they exist. But have you seen like, I don't want to see it, but like people floating and shit, you know what I mean?

Like crawling on the walls. See, that's too scary, bro. It is scary. But yeah. Yo, okay, okay. There's this, here's the problem I have with ghost stories is like, it's, it's crazy when one person says it, but when a whole population of people say the same thing, that's different. For sure. Right? Now, in the middle ages, there's these people, right? Documented in history, documents in all these like, um, novels, history books, whatever. Well,

Of people called the blemmies. You ever heard of that? What's that? I'm going to show you. Okay. Check this out. Check this out. So every single culture. Yeah. Has a story of people like this. Ew. What is that? So it's like a face on the torso of a man. Yeah. But. What the fuck is that? See, right? That's why. Look, look, look at it. What the heck? So listen, listen. Why is it that something like this, it seems so mythological. Like there's no way it can be real. There's no proof of it too. Mm-mm.

But it's found prevalent in Asia, Japan, like China, all of these Asian countries. It was prevalent in the Middle Ages in Europe and in Africa. What?

So tell me, how can something like that face on the body? What does the blemmies do? Are they just like an unsolved mystery? No, they're like a population of people. They're like people. What the heck? And you know Alexander the Great? He's a real person. Yeah, yeah. So in the stories of Alexander the Great in history, fam, he's a real person. Like he did real shit. Yeah. Part of his story is these people called the blemmies. Yeah.

are there are real what the heck and they're just roaming around somewhere just roaming around somewhere fam we just never found maybe we just never found the remains or maybe who knows do you think it's all fake do you think what is it i don't know maybe the government's the government's hiding because i i remember hearing a story too where there was a village in japan yeah just a small one where no one used to go but they're they're saying that right before like two days before everything vanished like they all vanished and only there was food left on like

Like on the plates So all the people Disappeared Yeah they just Disappeared The cows Everything disappeared But two days before There was the aliens There was like UFO sightings Oh shit And they were like Oh maybe the government Made sure that they They were like Sent out So they warned them Yeah so maybe the blemish Are literally just aliens They're just aliens

and the government are hiding because that doesn't look like a human that doesn't look like a human you feel me yo is it no because what if listen listen now i'm thinking deeper right what if all of these different creatures that we've seen in like bro even dragons what if these shits could fly to space we don't know yeah we don't know they're probably just hiding somewhere

Or they're tucked away in a UFO. What if dragons... This is going to sound so stupid. Yeah. What if dragons can fly into outer space? And they just left. Ah.

Listen, though. Listen, man. No, listen, though. Listen, though. Like, we can't prove that shit. Yeah, yeah. There's definitely something that would stop that, though. Because I know that as soon as you fly, like, a certain, like, atmosphere, you start burning up. But the dragons are used to that, though, no? Are they not fired? Yeah. They're not fired. We sound so stupid. We sound like the most uncreditable source of life. They just left. Yeah, who knows, though? No, they're not. Like...

Why is it there's so many freaking sightings of dragons here and all of a sudden we don't have them? Why is there so many creatures like this shit and all of a sudden they're not real? Facts. Like in fucking Star Wars. Who was it? Who was it that wrote all of this shit and left it in history for us? You know what I mean? I don't know. See, that's the problem. I feel like right now, let's say we create... Yo, let's say there's a whole fan base. Let's say Star Wars, for example. Okay. And then there's so much memorabilia. There's so much footage, everything of Star Wars. Mm-hmm.

The Earth becomes an apocalypse. Apocalypse, boom. Right? Wasteland. But people that land here later, thousands, thousands, thousands of years after us, see, like, Star Wars memorabilia and, like, oh, shit, this is real life. No, because I feel like the creatures, that's why I was going to say, the creatures in Star Wars look kind of funny, but who would sketch that out? Like, is that based on a true story? Do we know? Star Wars? No, Star Wars is based on a true story. Okay. I'm saying, like, maybe fucking Chewbacca running around. No, no.

What is Chewbacca based on? There's no way. There's no way. Okay, okay. There's no way Star Wars is real. There's no way, fam. There's no way. Nah, you never know, boy. You never know. Maybe it's just the government saying like, oh, this is what's gonna happen in the future. Nah, it's like, you know, what's the name? Steven Spielberg, right? He's the one that made Star Wars. Oh,

Oh, no. It was George Lucas. Yeah, George Lucas. That's the main guy. That's the guy. My bad. George Lucas, sorry. No, no, no. But you know the movie Paul? Yeah. So in the movie Paul, it was like the alien talking to George Lucas and telling him all these stories. Telling him to make Star Wars. Yeah, telling all these stories about these things. See, aliens, it's always the cause. But yeah, do you know the Mandela Effect about Star Wars? What's Mandela Effect? No, I'm bringing back the Mandela Effect. Okay, okay. So there's one about C-3PO. Oh, I know this one. Ah, you...

So Mr. Golden Boy himself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So in the movies, everyone's saying that, oh, he's gold from the head down all the way to the toe. Yeah. But people don't know this, but on his leg, he's actually silver. Yeah, he has a silver leg. He's got a silver leg. But people don't know that because in all the memorabilia, like you were saying, like it's all like he has a gold leg, gold everything. Oh, so, so...

It's not in pictures and shit. No, it's not in pictures. Oh, no, it is in pictures. So it is in pictures. He has a silver leg. So if we search up CP30 right now, it's gold, fam. What? It's gold. Reverse Mandela effect. Reverse Mandela effect. Wait, what? This guy's wrong. Reverse Mandela. No, look right there. It's like a silvery gold. Yeah, it is. Look right here. Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. But yeah, I didn't know that too. I just thought it was thing. Yeah, that's f*ck. I know. And Chewbacca doesn't actually have fur. Shut the f*ck up. Chewbacca makes a different noise. He doesn't go... He doesn't do that. He goes... He's just talking. Yo, man. He's actually speaking in English. He's actually speaking English. F*ck, fam. Yo.

There's a joke I want to say on this, but I can't say it. Just do it. Is it dark? It's bad. It's bad. Okay, I'm going to switch it up since we're talking about games. Since we haven't tapped into the Filipino stories, I got one today. Okay, bet. Have you ever heard about the Manila Slashers? The Manila Slashers? Nah. This is a crazy story, fam. So, I think around...

1965 right? Yeah, there was a thousand cases of kids with like slashes and wounds on their face a thousand cases Right. So when when everyone knows, um Looking around for like who did it they noticed more and more so they would have a scar here on their forehead Let's go on their cheek and a scar right here. Yeah, right. So everyone's like it has to be a gang, right? Hmm

So the police said that there was, they were lured in with candy and they were slashed. They were slashed. And right after they were slashed, acid was poured on them. So the wound would turn like as a scar. So these elementary school and high school kids were known as a scar face kids. So they still, they're still alive today. And so everyone's like, like,

They're trying to investigate who did it. And this caused so much fear within everyone in Manila that the kids started doing it to themselves. Oh, to avoid it. So they wouldn't get like cut up.

Oh, shit. And this is the sketchy thing. So right when the police really got into it, they were like, okay, it's a gang, right? But like two months after, they're like, no, it's not a gang. It's a fad. It's a fad that the kids in Manila are doing now. It's a trend. Oh, so they just thought it's like kids are doing it for fun? Yeah. Why did they switch the story to now it's a trend to do it? Like a fashion trend. That's sketchy, no? Yeah.

So it could just be That's what I'm saying Like maybe the police Have something to do with it Oh it's like a crooked It's a crooked call Maybe it's like Every kid that's slashed Is getting extorted somehow What do you mean? Like that's the target You know in trafficking Maybe we want that kid We slash him We'll get him later Oh

Oh, no, listen, listen. What if it's like they're scouting for the gangs? That's what I'm saying, yeah. For gangs. That's what I'm saying. Maybe that's just like the initiation. No, that would make sense because was it a lot of street kids? Yeah, it was a lot of street kids. So I think it was in a really poor area in Manila. You know what it is, fam? What? It's probably the kids that had a dad that is in a gang. Oh, okay.

Probably. I don't know. Yeah. If it's connected to the police. Really? Yeah. I don't know. Because it's still unsolved today. It's still going on right now. So if you were to mark everybody that's in a gang. Yeah. And you couldn't weed out who's who. One way you can weed out is through your kids, fam. Oh.

Like in police? Yeah, in the police, right? Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense, man. I think you just solved it right there. I solved it. Look, it's still unsolved right now. That makes the most sense to me. That's my theory. Okay, okay. That's my theory. Another theory is just like there's somebody putting some poison in them. But it wouldn't make sense. Why would you want to poison these kids and then let them free, right? Yeah, for sure.

I think what it is is really like a mark on it so they can see them and who they're involved with. Yeah, yeah. Right? Because, look, let's say you're a target, right? Yeah. You're not necessarily a target because of yourself. You could be a target because you're associated with somebody else. That would be a shitty ass life. Because imagine your ancestor did all that crazy shit and you're a target now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What was that story with your uncle or some crazy... Like he escaped somewhere? Yeah.

My great-grandfather, he was a hitman. Yeah, he was a hitman. That's what I'm saying. My great-grandfather's brother, sorry. Exactly. So what if you're now targeted because he had so many hits? Nah. They're like, that's the guy right there. Nah, that's like super old beef. That's literally the 40s, fam. You never know, fam. Get back. Get back. Go get back.

Revenge is timeless, fam. You never know. Revenge isn't timeless. Revenge is timeless. There's nothing to beef. No, no, no. Listen, listen. It's like a narzo. It's like a narzo. Like, are you still going to beef over old beef? Yeah. That you weren't involved with just because you're blood related? Hell no. I would give back.

Hell no. I would want to get back. See, that's where you get a twist. It's like the loyalty is there, but it's like you don't even hate them. Oh. I mean, like, why would you hate them? Talking about loyalty, man. Did you, since it's free thug, free YSL. Yeah, yeah. Did you watch his documentary? This was crazy. What happened? Because I didn't know the backstory of everything. So, so YSL, you know what it's for? Young Stoner Life. Yeah. No, but that's, that's like commercial propaganda. It's actually known Young Slime Life.

So they would YSL members. This is all in Atlanta. They would be split up in zones, right? And they I remember there was a story where he young thug was signed to Birdman's label. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So this was when he was getting up and he was getting big, right? And they were all celebrating all celebrating and Birdman had a manager called nut, right? That was his nickname nut, right? So while he was getting a haircut, he

A bunch of slime members. Yeah. Like they were all close to each other. But this was like a month after. They all pulled up in a rental car and shot at Nut and killed him. Oh, shit. And that rental car was traced back to Thug. Oh, wait. Is that why he got caught? No, there was way more. Because there's all these racketeering things, right? Fam, they were literally playing GTA in real life. This is what happened. All the YSL mans were in jail and Thug was...

flying cell phones in with a drone to his YSL members. Yo, that's real life Top Boy, bro. That's real life Top Boy. He had a real drone. Yeah. You feel me? And Atlanta had wires on everything. They were looking on Instagram, Instagram. Yeah. And you know YFN Lucci? No, no, no.

So YFN Lucci was also a big rapper in Atlanta coming up. Yeah. Right. And he, what do you call this? He found all the YSL members, told them to strip naked, took photos of them and told them to throw up the YSL. So he humiliated YSL. Oh shit. Here's a picture of all of them naked. And then he got hit back. So YSL, YSL retaliated. The next day they shot at his mother's place.

It was crazy, fam. And this kept going, this kept going. I remember a young thug's partner saw a wife and Luchi's car at Lenox Square. He sat on top of it, stuck the middle fingers up, and as soon as it wore out, wore chaos, everything. See, that shit is real, fam. Like, I

I hate how it's such a thing that gets us involved too. We like to be intrigued and get into the whole story of it. That was probably the best documentary I've ever seen. But this is the fucked one. Why Fenluci posted Young Thug's daughter and said happy birthday. Because there was accusations of him fucking his baby mama. So he literally went and said happy birthday my daughter.

Like, you turned out a great girl. Like, bro. Okay, I have a question for you. Obviously, like, you wouldn't have the answer for it, but I just want to see your opinion on it. Let's say you're in, like, a beef with somebody, right? Let's say... And it's connected to your career. For example, these rappers connected in gangs or whatever. It's low-key part of the career, too, if it's involving their music. For sure. Would you take steps to hurt their personal life if...

it affects their commercial life. Oh, they're personal? Yeah. See, that's the thing, right? Because like, let's say you have beef with...

So I have guaranteed beef with them. You have a real beef with somebody, right? You have a real beef with somebody and you two are rivalry in this like, I guess, media thing, right? Would you take precautions in personal life to affect the commercial? To affect the commercial? For sure. I would fuck him up mentally first. And that's why he's not going to drop any more music because he's so fucked up mentally that he can't even think about the next move. Damn.

- I know bro. - But that's smart though. - Yeah, I know, I know, I know. - You're marketing. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm gonna be real, I'm gonna be real. There's steps you can take. There's no right answer, wrong answer. There is more ethical answers, but feel me? Like if you do wanna be the best, sometimes you do have to do like slime shit. - Exactly. - Like for example, Michael Jordan, why is he the GOAT? You know all of these GOATs, Michael Jordan, Mike Tyson, Floyd Mayweather for example, all of these people,

dog they talk shit yeah bro Michael Jordan was one of the biggest shit talkers ever Michael Jordan yo I all said this but Michael Jordan is like a low-key an asshole yeah low-key he is but he's the goat though he's the goat he's actually the goat did you see when Malik Monk ran on the court before and Michael Jordan slapped his ass

Like he's an asshole, fam. Okay. Did you watch the last dance documentary? Yo. There's this one scene. There's this one scene. He's like, do your fucking job, bro. Do your job. I know.

It was literally like 16 episodes of just be him being low-key Yeah, but but but that goes to show you those people that take it too extreme I guess you can say that is kind of to a personal level. Yeah, it's like oh I'm not gonna chill with you unless you do your job properly. That's Michael Jordan. That's like the Jordan But maybe there's a connection there of being the greatest and being a dick You are a dickhead

I'm not a dickhead. I'm actually not a dickhead. No, when we first started, you're like Gavin. You have to edit it properly. No, but listen, listen. I feel like... No, but it makes sense though. Yeah, I think that's a true thing though. I feel like you can't be...

Yo. Do you think he can be at the top and not be hated? Nah. Nah, you can't. I don't think so. Unless you're like Mr. Beast, but that's a different story. You can't, fam. I remember there was some quote. It's like, the haters are only mad at you. They're not mad at you. Because they're mad at themselves. Yeah, because that's what they want to be. Yeah, exactly. I think that's true. Exactly. So you're doing something right. I think that's true. Because, bro, imagine you're at the top, but every single person, let's say,

let's say for you let's put you and then a whole different career right all of a sudden all your friends that you used to hang with hate your guts are you gonna be happy at the top to be honest no fam i don't know i don't know bro i wouldn't i actually don't know i actually do not fucking know i don't know if if i'll be happy with my success without my friends yeah because without any of those relationships that i had prior yeah because this life is like

Now that you really think about it, this life only really cares about your relationships, like the family. Like, you can have no money, but you can have family and you still have a blessed life. Yeah. Like, if that's your perspective. Yeah. I feel like men's like Andrew Tate, who are doing all this, like, bullshit, oh, no girl loves me, I don't want to date no girl because there's no high value girl. But he has so much money, but like...

There's so much you can do with that money. Yeah, you can have this mansion. But when I look at a man like Andrew Tate, though, I'm actually convinced, fam. I'm actually convinced he actually likes living like that. Really? Yeah. No, I had this theory. It was like, the smaller house you have, the better, the closer you are with your family. Because you're not in separate rooms. That's kind of true, too. But the bigger house you have, you're so separated that there's no relationship no more with your family. It's just literally about...

we're just living now yeah you know dog you want to hear something sad it's not sad but it's like yeah so literally just a couple days ago when we had canada day right yeah yeah i was kidding with the family we're all in the backyard this is one of the few the rare occasions we're all in the backyard cousins amazing cousins everybody right i was looking around my lola's there lola's there they all uncle goes all the uncles aunties whatever yeah i'm just looking around like

damn like I'm really soaking it in right now because I was looking at everybody I don't think everybody realizes the position they're in or at least like appreciate the moment they're in until you like actually look at what came yeah yeah until you like

Let me pause. Boom. Facts. And then just look. Facts. Damn, I did that. I'm like, I almost cried, fam. Really? Yeah, but I didn't want to like, I was really trying to hide like I'm looking at people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was actually getting emotional. But nobody would understand like what I was getting emotional at. Just because like I'm literally just sitting by myself like just watching everyone. No, we take that shit for granted, bro. Like family in general. God, because like, I feel like when you go out with your friends and you have fun, you're so in the moment of having fun. I don't think you realize like,

What the actual situation is or like the moment you are presently you're just in the let's say you're playing cod, right? Yeah, you're playing cod. But are you looking at the room? You're looking at like your surrounding and shit. No, you're on the game And I think that's the same with any motive you go out. Let's see go to a concert Yeah, you're having fun the concert ball turning up. Why are you realizing like oh?

Every single person there They all have their own life You might never see them again The people you enjoy with Right now The friends that you came To the concert with You might not see them again Somebody could disappear Somebody could You know what I mean Go separate ways Yeah

but the present moment like exactly where you are you're all there for a reason and you're all like enjoying each other's company at that exact second yeah no no like sometimes like I have friends that will literally just do this but guys it feels weird but it's like guys I'm actually like thankful for you guys and I'm like what but then I'm like oh no that makes sense like now that I'm thinking about it like let me be

Let me be grateful with you. It's such like an outlandish thing to say like, oh, guys, like, yo, this feels nice. Yeah. You know, because we're all just like, I don't know. Your friend had that moment. Yeah. Because I wanted to say that too, but I'm not going to be that weirdo in the family. Everybody's going to fucking laugh at me. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. No, because I put out a little...

You feel me? Yeah, yeah. But I understand. You feel me? I understand. I would too. I would laugh too, fam. Because I think when you get into... There's like a zen state. Or not even like a zen state. There's like a go mode. And then it's just go, go, go. Life on go. Life on go. We're just thinking of the next motive. You feel me? Yeah. I feel like when you put life on go and then just don't look at life...

It's so hard to explain. It's like you can live life, but are you like really living? Are you like, yeah, I don't know how to explain it, bro. I don't know how to explain. It's like I can live life and like do shit in life. But am I living life? You know what I mean? But that's the sad part about it, girl. Because how many memories do you actually have of you really living life? Like that's exactly my whole point.

That's my whole point, fam. It's like, I swear, I swear all of the times I go out and have fun, it's all go mode. Yeah, until you get home and it's still like, oh, now I just need to sleep. Yeah, exactly. But I feel like I need to take a moment. I should have like a stopwatch on my arm. It's like every 30 minutes. Appreciate life. No, but I feel like those moments, like remember, so you go out with that certain group of friends, right? Yeah. And then like,

Like three months later, you reconnect with that same group of friends. And then you're just having that deep convo. It's like, oh, remember when we did that? That's your living life. But it's too late because you're not in the moment. You're not in the moment. Yo, that's so true. That's so true. That's why nostalgia hits so different is because we relive it. And we actually like...

evaluate that moment happening. But I feel like we can't always do that though. Like there's no way that somebody's really living all the time. Yeah, I don't think you can. Because we, right now, memories are passing by. I'm not living. I'm thinking about the next thing to say to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But later, we're gonna look back at this like, yo, you know. See, that's deep, bro. That shit is deep. Yeah. It's like, you can live at a certain pace, but

I don't think there is a right pace. There isn't. No, you can't. There's not. Everyone has their own separate pace. That's tough, man. It's just so sad. Like, sometimes I think about... Shit...

I might not see some people again. Yeah. I think the biggest privilege that we have right now that we don't notice is coming home after every motive. Yeah. Cause fam, I remember when my sister was out, like she doesn't usually go out, but when she went out, I'm like in my bed and, and I'm like, Oh shit. I wonder what time she's going home. Like I couldn't sleep. Right. That's my mom. Like every day. Cause I'm out all the time. And the fact that I'm, I'm blessed to come home every night. Like you feel me? Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Yeah, that's a big privilege that I feel like we're not grateful for.

and that's why i'm gonna start vlogging yeah exactly exactly yo no honestly honestly what's funny is yeah remember how i told you like i was i was vlogging waiting for you yeah i turned that moment of like boredom into like something fun bro that shit was actually fun yeah like i think you can turn anything like it could be like the most shit experience but it can make it fun and at least entertaining for other people you know what's crazy one of like

All of my friends that are really like positive people. Yeah. They're not even in like the craziest houses. They're like living on their own. They have their traumas, but they always come out and they're always in like the happiest moods. Like that's just how perspective gets to you. Like he welcomed me into his home. It's very humble home. You feel me? Yeah. But he's one of like the most humble, craziest, like positive person I've ever met. And that's the wife I'm trying to be on too. So you think living a less,

yeah like less than average yeah materialistic life materialistic like really like brings out the the humbleness in you hmm but i think there's some rich people that that are like that yeah i don't know i've never met them yet

Really? I've never met a crazy, like, crazy, crazy, humble, positive, rich person. I feel like there's a lot of people, like, in LA like that. I'm gonna be real. I haven't been there, but I can get the vibe of, like, oh, this person would probably act this way. Yeah, yeah. Maybe. It depends, though, bro, because when you're all in, like, one cesspool... Yeah, I know. That's a big word for Elmo. Cess. When you're in, like, one big cesspool of the same, like, culture...

Everybody's gonna be... Everyone's gonna be happy, you feel me? But it's good that I see the good and the bad, you know? Yeah. I think we really underrate Toronto. But...

Toronto's actually kind of sick. No, it is. It is. I don't know why we have that stigma. I feel like we just put it on. Like, if Torontonians always say, oh, our city is shit. Our city is shit. One day, we all just switch the mindset or our city is positive. The city would be booming right now. Dead ass. Dead ass, bro. Listen, listen. You want to hear a hot take? Hot take right now. Hot take right now. Listen, Toronto would be cooler than New York if... Yeah. If...

Torontonians, we're close like that. Stop shitting on us. Exactly. If we stop shitting on each other, we'd be cooler than New York fam. I feel like we are cooler than New York right now. Like we have... That's a hot take though. That's a hot take. No disrespect to New Yorkers. Y'all are sick too. We're on the come up. You feel me? But I feel like every big...

big city comes from beef. So I feel like we're in our beef stage. Soon, we're finally going to notice like, guys, stop it, bro. And finally uplift something. Rolling loud is a big, is a big, like, that's a big thing. Yeah. But if we ruin rolling loud, that, that's how, you know, we can't progress forward. Like you feel me? Cause, cause if,

rappers if Toronto rappers finally get that chance to be on a platform on a big stage and you mess that up you're the reason we're not the reason we're gassing it we got you here yeah if we don't like kumbaya grizelda blanco then there's no hope there's no hope if there's grizelda blanco I'm here boom boom it's raps I give up let me knock on wood for that cause we're going we're going I will end it there on a positive note but before we end it I just wanna let y'all know

We're going to be playing Ox Wars on the Jumpers Club. So go tune in on the Jumpers Club. Link in the description below. Ox Wars is out for pre-order if you guys want to go pre-order that. Josh is actually having, he has his own YouTube channel. Jeez. It's the Ox Wars YouTube channel. So we're going to be playing and doing some content on there too. First episode is out. Go watch that. Yeah, go watch that. Yeah, just listen to this podcast on Apple, Spotify, all that. Make sure to give us a five-star rating. Love you guys. And yeah, Jumpers Jump out. Deuces.