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After the Cut | Correspondents 2024 - Part 2

2025/2/23
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Michael Kosta: 我认为作为父亲,我的责任是培养孩子的好奇心、自信心以及在不确定性中寻找价值观的品质。我不希望我的孩子对任何事情都过于确定,而应该保持好奇心,勇于探索,并接受不确定性。我认为,在不确定性中寻找价值观比在确定性中寻找价值观更重要。因为世界是复杂的,充满不确定性,只有具备好奇心和适应能力,才能在这个世界中生存和发展。我不会强迫我的孩子遵循我的价值观,而是希望他能独立思考,形成自己的价值观。我会尽我所能地支持他,让他在探索的过程中不断成长。

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The conversation explores the challenges of raising children in today's polarized world and emphasizes the importance of fostering curiosity and embracing uncertainty. The speaker shares his approach to parenting, focusing on instilling curiosity and confidence in his child.
  • Importance of fostering curiosity in children
  • The need to embrace uncertainty
  • Instilling confidence in children to navigate the world

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Oh my gosh. What advice do I tell my child? He's three and a half, so I keep him away from all news. I truly do. And even Paw Patrol, which is just teaching him, indoctrinating a love of police and authority.

So that's a problem as well. You see it seep in. You know, it is, to me, I think exposure is the first step. Expose yourself to kids. Is that what I'm telling you?

I mean, it comes from meeting other people, talking to other people, and staying curious enough to understand where they come from. I think I've talked about this a little bit before, but when I go out in the road and I talk to people at rallies, and it's rallies, MAGA rallies, and even rallies on the left as well, I think the thing that I find least appealing is certainty.

People have no sense of there being a gray area or being unsure of how something should play out. And it doesn't mean you shouldn't be strong in your convictions, but I think you need to leave space to be wrong and to be curious. And so I think with a total amount of certainty and a lack of uncertainty comes a lack of curiosity, in which case we just become these people lost in those silos. And so

I think my job as a dad, how I see it, in terms of, like, what am I supposed to do? I'm supposed to feed and water it, right? I think I got that. Feed and water this child. But I think I need to instill and maintain a sense of curiosity, a sense of confidence to walk into the world, and a sense of finding virtue in uncertainty as opposed to certainty. And then from there, he needs to walk his own path.

but that's simply because i can't afford it past 18. you know yeah so when you're going to rallies and talking to people you're kind of picking apart their answers to kind of send it right back to them really quickly and that takes a lot of wit and kind of a lot of like you know mental capacity to kind of pick it apart so what are the things that you're thinking of when you're hearing their answers that you want to pull out or draw from i will say this the process of going into the field is

We're so many talented people here at The Daily Show, and a day or two before we go out into the field, we're watching the news. We're having the same conversations you're probably having at home about people are talking about this. I hear the arguments on the right are this. I see hypocrisies here. And we sort of have almost debate prep among producers and writers here where we sit down in a room. We're like, where do you see holes in these arguments?

We start to find the humor in those holes, the obvious hypocrisy in those arguments. And when we go out there, we've kind of talked through, like, where we see these-these holes that you could sometimes drive a pickup truck through.

But then I'm an improviser. That's where I came from. I'm not a stand-up. I spent 15 years doing improv in Chicago and New York. And the big thing about improv is when you get out there, you let it all go. And you let go of your preconceived notions, and you listen, and you listen hard. And so in those moments...

I have a great team behind me that we've done the prep work, and then you just, you try to engage and be present because the things that you find, the moments of humor or the moments of revelation of a point of view that you haven't heard before, but you see somebody now spouting this at me, they come from that person feeling comfortable in the conversation with me.

They come from that person saying something unique and me being open enough to actually hear it and to try to spin it. So I think it's a skill set that you use in improvisation. It's a skill set that you use in being a good husband, and it's basically like, get out of your head and listen to what that person's saying. I'll tell you this, though. A skill set that doesn't help being a good husband is finding that weird thing they say and try to use it against them. Now, that, I will say, my wife might say that that is... it's a double-edged sword, if you will.

Yeah, role models. I don't know about role models, but comedy inspirations. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I always thought Bill Burr was great, and I got to meet him. He messaged me on Facebook one day when I was in Australia, and his profile picture was a car.

And so I didn't believe it was him when he messaged me. I was like, I'm getting catfished right now by Bill Burr. And he was like, hey, I saw your clip on a plane and you were really funny and hope we can work together. And it sounded so catfishy. I was like, yeah, whatever, truck, right? But then I thought like, oh, if I can live with being catfished, I can't live with if it was actually Bill Burr. And I said, f*** off.

So I replied like, "Oh, hey, thanks. "I'm a huge fan of yours. "That's high praise coming from you. "I live in Australia, so I don't think we'll ever get "a chance to work together, but, you know, hopefully, "one day, if I ever get to go to America, "I'll see you in the circuit." And then he said, "Hey, I'm touring Australia next year. "I would love for you to be on the show."

And I was like, "Yeah, whatever, it's a truck, yeah." It's a catfish, it's clearly a catfish. And so I was like, "Whatever." And then I didn't think too much about it. I kept kind of doing my thing. And then a year later, hey, I get this email to go to the theater. And the whole time I'm like, "I'm gonna get murdered. "This is not gonna..." And I show up until I was in Bill Burr's green room. And he was like, "Oh, this will be on the show, man. "That clip was super fun. "I saw you on the plane." And...

And he became a friend and a mentor. And he executive produces my comedy specials now. And it's a real crazy, rare story of meeting your heroes and them being really cool in the end. Yeah. So Bill Burr, and that's about it. All your years here at Daily Shop, what is the legacy you want to leave to your audience every night? The legacy I want to leave to my audience?

Oh, my. Uh... I gotta tell you, I haven't been here long enough for that. Give me some time to accrue some legacy, and then we'll move on. I will... I'll tell you this, though. Uh, perhaps...

I was a fan of The Daily Show before I was a worker at The Daily Show. I used to watch it in college. It was one of my first forays into being interested in news. And, in fact, I watched it before that. I watched Craig Kilbourne host the show when I was in high school, and I loved it. I thought it was so funny. I love Craig Kilbourne. He looked great in a suit. We were the same height. It was perfect. In comes Jon Stewart, and he's so insightful, thoughtful. And at college, it was like, oh, he makes the news,

compelling. I understand that he's not kowtowing to one side. He's just calling out bullshit. And I like this guy. And I was a fan before ever getting a chance to ever audition and be a part of the show. And so the legacy that it left in me was like, be interested.

don't be afraid to challenge bullshit, and always look somewhere for more. And I think, like, that thirst and that hunger to know more, and I think that basic idea of call out bullshit where you see it, I think it's sort of built into the institutional legacy of this show. And so that is what I'm most proud of here. Thank you.

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I want, like, I want big Italians or, like, Serbian dudes. Like, I don't want these, like, twinkie British guys. And then... Remember when Mark Philippous just would practice with his shirt off? I mean, I'm not even gay, and I was getting hard for that guy. You know what I mean? It was like... And he's, like, when he was a coach, he was just a zaddy in the stands. It was, I mean, Tommy Haas. Oh, these men are beautiful. I lost track. But, um...

The biggest issue I thought was the grips, right? The grips are off. The grip was so off. And I'm fine with her having a grip that's off, but if you're going to say the greatest tennis player who ever played tennis, just put the grip... It's like if a football player was holding it from the back of the football and throwing. It's like if I was like, hey, so this water is really delicious. It's like...

So when we say gripping me in the way, they were holding the racket. Also, show a threesome. Like, show it. I also never watch the movie. Perfect. Yes! That's my fam. I got my parents, my sister, my brother, my aunt, my uncle, my other uncle up there. Am I nervous? No, I'm f***ing excited to do it in front of my family. I will say this.

As cool as it is that my parents are here, it is not surprising because they came to every gosh darn show I've done and that they could come to. And a big part of why I am here is because I got into improv at Kalamazoo, Michigan, Kalamazoo College. And I...

I got on the improv team MonkaPult and we did shows in a little black box theater for 95 college students and two 50-somethings. 40-somethings, sorry. My parents would come and they would support me. And I was a math major at the time and I was spending my time doing improv and then traveling to the Improv Olympic here in Chicago.

And then I came to Chicago and I found another family at places like the ImprovOlympic. I think Sharna Halpern is here tonight as well. There she is, founder of the ImprovOlympic. Gosh darn, long form improvisation, Sharna Halpern right there.

She gave me a space to fail and to succeed and to fail and fail and fail again. And more often than not, my parents would hop in the car and they would drive over to Chicago and they would watch these shows at weird times with their son who wasn't making any money. He was a substitute teacher at Chicago Public Schools making a little bit of money during the day, not a lot. And my parents wouldn't judge it. They would just support it. They would love it. And I look back on that...

And when I look back on it, frankly, I think it's irresponsible. Not a smart move to let your child just do improv in Chicago for a decade.

Getting paid peanuts. But I loved it. She let me find, my family let me find my people, the things that I loved, be surrounded by people who were interested in the things that I loved and the things I liked to do. Supported me when I went to New York and got to try out for fun things like this. And then a long 17 years later, no, a long...

24 years later, I get to come to the Atheneum Theater where I used to do improv for the Chicago Improv Festival, and I get to do a f***ing great show on The Daily Show with you guys. So thank you. Truly thank you.

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