Billionaires Intervene in Wisconsin Supreme Court Race | Bill Murray
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Welcome to The Daily Show. I'm Roy Chang. We got so much to talk about tonight. The legendary Bill Murray is in the house. But first, we're still 19 months away from the 2026 midterms, but I know there's some absolute freaks out there who need an election sooner than that. 19 months is too long, man. I need something right now. I'll suck your d*** for an exit poll.

Well, meet me in the studio after the show. Meet me behind the studio because I got a quick fix for you. Let's get into it with Indecision 2025, locally sourced edition. This Tuesday, there's an election for a seat on the Wisconsin Supreme Court. And I know what you coastal elites are thinking. So what? They'll rule on what? Whether it's legal to marry your cheese or whatever the f*** the issues are in Wisconsin?

Well, yes, that is part of it. But also, it will determine whether abortion is legal in Wisconsin and how to redraw election districts, which could even determine which party controls Congress. And that's why the weather report for Wisconsin is calling for rain.

A hundred million dollars. That's how much money could be spent on a state Supreme Court race in Wisconsin. And that would make it the most expensive judicial election in U.S. history. The race pairing Judge Susan Crawford from liberal hotbed Dane County against conservative Judge Brad Schimel from Waukesha has big money outside donors like George Soros, J.B. Pritzker and Elon Musk opening their wallets. Trump's close ally and financial backer, Musk, has been

gone all in on Schimel's campaign. The tech billionaire and groups aligned with him have poured more than $20 million into the state. - Now I know $20 million sounds like a lot, but remember that Elon has over $300 billion. $20 million is like one of his kids. It means nothing to him.

Yes, this race has turned into a billionaire Royal Rumble. I mean, they're spending $100 million, which is obscene. I mean, you know, for that kind of money, you could have bought tens of thousands of Wisconsin residents their first ever salad. Instead, they're spending it on ads like this.

That's disgusting.

Criminals are praying Susan Crawford gets elected. If you want them to be safe, don't vote for him. Wow. Why is SVU wasting his time in New York? I mean, you got at least 20 seasons down there in Wisconsin. I mean, if you got this many pedophiles in Wisconsin, maybe the problem is Wisconsin. Yeah.

Because for me watching this on the outside, I'm like, should the rest of us put a wall up around Wisconsin to keep all the pedophiles in there? I mean, I know it will trap the kids in there too, but the kids are probably also pedophiles, so it should be fine. I mean, there's so many pedophiles that if you want to win, you should probably be making pro-pedophile ads because it seems like it's a big constituency over there. Like, why don't you do some outreach?

But hey, I guess this is the story of American elections. Way too much money paying for way too many negative ads. In fact, Elon Musk is spending so much money on attack ads, he's not even paying attention to who the ads are attacking. - An attack ad against Supreme Court Justice candidate Susan Crawford is using a picture of a different Susan Crawford. An ad launched by a group backed by Elon Musk instead used a picture of Susan P. Crawford, who's a Harvard University law professor.

Okay, to be fair, if I'm ever talking to a white woman over 50 and I forget her name, I just call her Susan Crawford. And I'm usually right, like, 80% of the time. But, um, hey, maybe Elon just needs glasses. I mean, it could change everything. He'd be like, oh, my God, that Cybertruck looks like shit. Uh, but... But...

Elon isn't just spending all that money on attack ads. He's also dusting off a tactic from the 2024 election. Voter self-checkout. The Elon Musk-backed America Political Action Committee asking Wisconsin voters to sign a, quote, petition in opposition to activist judges. The reward for each signature, $100.

A hundred dollars? Come on, Elon. It's going to take more than that for Americans to sell their souls to you. Elon Musk's political action committee has handed out $1 million to a voter in Wisconsin just for signing a petition. A million dollars? Come on, Elon. You have taken way less for Americans to sell their souls to you, all right? I would have done it for $250. For more on the flood of billionaire money, let's go live to Wisconsin with our very own Grace Kulinsmith. Grace, Grace, Grace.

- Wait, why are you dressed like the Monopoly man? - Monopoly woman, Ronnie. It's 2025, women can do anything men can do, including beating up an old man and stealing his monocle and top hat. - What, you beat up an old man? Is he okay? - This race is really heating up, Ronnie. There's so much money pouring in right now, they're not even being subtle about it. Elon Musk is shooting gold bars out of a T-shirt cannon.

That sounds kind of dangerous. It is, but the people it didn't kill are filthy rich. Okay, Grace, this is awful, all right? Billionaires should not have this level of influence in local elections. Are you kidding? This is the best thing to happen to Wisconsin since Brett Favre's penis.

Look at all this. They painted the whole city in gold. The street lamps are crystal chandeliers. The birds are diamond-encrusted. Sure, they're dead, but they're beautiful. Okay, what, so Wisconsin doesn't mind the billionaires meddling in their elections? No, in fact, they're trying to get billionaire money in all their elections, no matter how small. This morning, I saw an attack ad that said Mary Beth Kowalski should not be senior class president at Sheboygan High.

Because she failed her driver's test. Oh, this is disgusting. I know. Her mom still drops her off at school. No, no, no. I mean, it's outrageous for Wisconsin to shift its entire economy to depend on billionaire election money. Oh, okay. If you can think of a better way to transfer billionaire money back to society, all yours. What about taxes? Huh?

Taxes. What? Taxes. Speak up. Taxes. One more time. Taxes. Two more times. Taxes, taxes. Ronnie, I don't know what language you just slipped into, but I gotta go. That old man is waking up and I gotta finish the job. All right. Don't hurt him. Grace Kuhlensmith, everyone. When we come back, America goes after its 51st state, so don't go away.

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Welcome back to The Daily Show. Look, I know there's a lot of Trump haters out there who are like, this guy can't focus. He's got the attention span of a golden retriever on cocaine, which sounds like a great idea for a movie, but it's not. And I call dibs. Well, you couldn't be more wrong. OK, three months into his term, President Trump is still laser focused on the single most important issue affecting most Americans, invading Greenland.

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She loves the concept of Greenland. I mean, green? She loves green. And land? Don't even get her started. Now, in some ways, Usha Vance is a great person for this trip. I mean, Greenland is pretty cold and lifeless, so being married to J.D. Vance has left her very prepared. And if she was hoping...

A trip to Greenland would at least be a few days away from her boring husband. Well, he had some bad news for her. Hey, guys, it's Shady Vance, the vice president. And you know, there was so much excitement around Usha's visit to Greenland this Friday that I decided that I didn't want her to have all that fun by herself. And so I'm going to join her. JD, give her some space, OK? If you want to know what she's up to, don't worry. She's going with Mike Waltz. So the whole world is going to know every move she makes.

But with this all-star delegation, I'm sure Greenland is going to roll out the red carpet for American imperialism. When the vice president and a high-level U.S. delegation flies in tomorrow, there will be no big grand welcome, no American flags flying in the streets, and no photo ops with locals. 85% of Greenlanders do not want to be part of the United States, according to a recent poll. Would you like to be American?

Oh. No. Not really. The leaders here have been clear. Greenland is not up for grabs, and the American delegation is not invited. Wow, they're holding up signs that say, "Greenland belongs to indigenous people." Uh, America is like, "Oh, you have no idea how much we don't care about that." Here's some measles! Now...

I mean, Greenland does not want to make America great again. In fact, they want the opposite. The idea prompting protests, along with a different kind of MAGA hat. This one reading, make America go away. That's right. Make America go away. I do love the tone. It's very bitchy.

I mean, they should make one that says, "Oh, seriously, America, just kill yourself already." So, basically, the people of Greenland really hate J.D. Vance in particular, which means, as always, Donald Trump is right. They really are ready to be Americans. When we come back, some guy called Bill Murray will be joining me on the show, so don't go away.

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It's a comedy icon and an Academy Award-nominated actor whose new film is called The Friend. I can't believe I get to say this, but please welcome the legend Bill Murray. I love you. I love you. Abe Lincoln, everybody. Abraham Lincoln. Thank you. Bill Murray. Thanks. Wow. Thank you so much for being the only guest who put the merch on. Yeah, well...

I don't know. They told me it was business casual. So business casual, you know, it's good. I know. We give it to everybody. No one ever does what they're told and wears it on stage. So I also have to thank you for something else. I've never told this story on air, but I was lucky a couple years ago. I was doing shows with Dave Chappelle in Ohio. And they said, hey, Ronnie, we have a plane for you back to New York. But do you mind dropping off Bill Murray?

along the way, and I was like, are you kidding me? I get to go on a plane with Bill Murray? Does he want me on? And like, no, no, he's great. Yeah, totally, he wants you on. And you let me get on your plane so I could get out of Ohio. So I really appreciate it. Thanks so much. Hey, that goes for all of you.

And the whole time I was on the plane with you, you were so generous, you were so kind, you were very considerate. You were trying to time the flight so I wouldn't hit traffic in New York. And I couldn't believe you were talking to me. And the whole time I was like, oh my God, I'm living...

one of these legendary Bill Murray stories right now. Like, I'm in the story that I keep hearing about. And so there's all these stories about you kind of popping up around America. And I just want to ask, like, is this kind of philosophy of life, of this live-in-the-moment randomness, is that something you kind of carry into your self-expression?

Well, I think most of our lives are accidental. As much as we think we're in charge, most of it's accidental. And it's just how you are able to live with the accidents that you create, that you're part of. Right. I kind of like the excitement of the...

of the unknown and figuring, "Oh, well now look what I've done." You know, so that's-- it's been fun. Yeah, but it is a conscious choice, right, to be present, because not many people can do it. I mean, you've said yourself you try to make yourself more available. Well, the conscious choices come and go. They come and go. So, but yeah, sometimes they are. So that's why there's sometimes a through line that looks like there's a plan.

Yeah, but so I guess just in terms of Hollywood, applying that philosophy to, you know, this crazy thing we call show business Hollywood. And, you know, your approach to it has always really intrigued me because you're someone who I feel is, even though you're one of an icon in the Hollywood system, you still feel like you purposely take yourself outside the system. I mean, is that a conscious choice for you to be

Well, I don't think I'm any good to anyone if I'm just in the system all the time. You know, if you're not going out in the world and coming back with something, you're not doing any good to your family or your world. You know, you've got to go out there and do it. Yeah. No, I agree with that. But you acknowledge that's not a common thing for most of these guys in Hollywood. I despise the rest of them. Yeah.

No, you get excited. You get excited making a career, and you start getting busy. And it's hard. Everything's a distraction. So everything can take you away from trying to remember yourself and try to keep it together. Yeah, and I mean, sorry to hop on about it, but I just want to emphasize how strongly I feel this embodies your philosophy. And I feel like because I think it was after Ghostbusters I read that

biggest movie in the world at the time, and you immediately kind of moved to France with your whole family and started studying at the Sorbonne. Mm-hmm. Just to get yourself out of it, I guess. Like... Yeah, I knew I was a little too weak to... I mean, it was going to be a whole lot of fame. Like walking down the streets of New York when you've already saved New York. You know? It's, uh... You know, that's... So, you know...

That's, I mean, Aaron Judge doesn't have that problem. And the other thing, because you've been, you had such longevity in the business, you've been around. I feel like you're one of the few guys who is actually qualified to talk about this. So right now, I feel like

we keep looking at the past with these rose-tinted glasses, just with culture. I mean, forget politics or whatever, just culturally when we talk about movies. And you were part of this incredible run of American comedy films, like it was, you know, Caddyshack, Ghostbusters, Scrooge. You had this run of just stripes of hits.

And we look back on that now as, like, this golden age in American comedy film. When you were in that era, were you looking back at previous eras and going, "That was the golden age"? Or were you like, "No, I'm the king right now."

This is the best sense of... No, I wasn't really... I mean, I look back now more than I did then. Back then, we were just excited to be having a good time, you know? People didn't take it so darn seriously. We would... You know, we'd change the script every day. We'd just go out there and have fun. We'd knock ourselves out. And as long as you're tired at the end of the day, it means you worked hard. You know, you try to be exhausted at the end of every day. Like, always trying to find new things to do and just a way to work, you know? And...

And also, it's a funny kind of living making movies. You're in a kind of a gypsy world with like 150 people for about three months and you live very intimately and then you never see each other again, maybe, you know? So it's very, you have to be very devoted to the whole process. Everybody's a part of the solution. Anyone can fix any, any can find the answer to the problem. So you're all really connected. So it's,

That kind of living is very demanding. I love it. I really do like movies. I like making... I realized just recently, God, I really like making movies. Yeah. Well, good news for you. People, everyone wants you in that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

This movie's good, and I made another movie that's good called Riff Raff that just came out that's really weird. Not like anything I've ever seen before. With Pete Davidson? It's with Pete Davidson. With Pete Davidson and Ed Harris and Gabby Union. A lot of good people. Jennifer Klitsch is insanely funny in that movie, too. But this is a good movie. This has got Naomi Watts. This...

Naomi Watts in this movie, The Friend, it's the best performance I've seen by an actress in so long I can't even remember. It's unbelievable what she does in this movie. Right. Yeah, well, that deserves a round of applause. I mean, Naomi Watts is killer. I love her.

I love how you started promoting this movie and then you had to quickly promote this other movie. Well, I was promoting that movie and I was promoting this movie while I was promoting that movie. I really like, you know, I want people to go to movie theaters and see movies in movie theaters. Because look at this, you're in a group of people, you know. We had a couple of years where we couldn't be in a group of people.

And it's like the shared experience. It goes back to the Greeks. It's a theater, and you all get together, and we share our humanity together. Yeah. Yeah, it's the best. It's really the best. Like being together. Yeah, which brings me to this other question I had. Like, you were talking about the movies you're doing now, The Friend and Riff Raff. I mean, these are indie movies. And I guess, just talking about your career again, there was a moment when...

after all these blockbusters and you were the biggest name on the planet, you kind of, like, you went away for a bit and you shifted into this, like... You basically ushered in this new golden age of American independent film with Lost in Translation and, you know, all these Wes Anderson movies. And I guess, was that... Was that planned? I mean, was that... Ronnie, I swear to you, there's no plan. There is no plan. There's no plan. It's just... I just like to do what I like, you know? And...

It happened that those great people like Sophia and Wes Anderson and Jim Jarmusch, these are people who have a real integrity, a real powerful integrity and a real love and history of film culture. They wanted to make movies. And because, you know, I always say like, I didn't embarrass myself too badly. So that's why they hired me, you know. And I know you're living in the moment and it's very Buddhist and I appreciate that. And I try to live that philosophy, but.

But I'm just saying, you have to acknowledge, at the time when you did these indie movies, you had a lot of clout, and you were risking it, whether you cared about it or not. You were risking it on these kind of unproven, talented directors a lot. And was that a conscious choice to, like, I want to give people a chance, or were you just attracted to the material? Well, you know, Ron, when you see the script...

You know, like I got the script for Rushmore, which is Wes Anderson's movie, or Sophia's movie, Lost in Translation, or especially Rushmore. They said, you want to meet the guy? I said, no. You don't want to meet the guy? I said, no. He knows exactly what he wants to do. Let's go. I didn't need to meet him. I was like, I'll see you at work. I don't need to talk. He knows exactly what he wants to do. And Sophia's same way, and Jim Jarman's same way. They know exactly what they want to do. Their script is so perfect.

like, what their intention is, that you have great confidence. You know, when you're watching a good movie, you know it in a minute because you just feel so confident with the way the camera moves, the way everything goes. And that's how their scripts read. They read like this. It reads like, this is storytelling. This is real storytelling. Right. And you were, you know... Oh, okay. Someone's... Oh, we can't applaud. Look, it's...

It's fine to applaud every word this guy says, because I'm doing it too. Oh, I should say, these guys wrote a good movie. I should mention the reason we're here, sort of. David Siegel and Scott McGee, they took this book written by a New York girl, a lady, named Sigrid Nunez, who's really fun. You should have her on the show sometime. She's really cool. They took her book, which is a great book, and it won the National Book Award, whatever, and made a great screenplay out of it.

Well, whatever they give those writers, you know? But they made a great script, and they directed this script together, and it's really good. No, it's a good movie. I watched it. It's very touching. It deals with some pretty sad topics. It's a very dramatic role for you, I would say. There's a... I don't know. I checked with the director. It's not a spoiler alert. You're essentially...

dead most of the movie. Yeah. That's how they wanted it. Yeah, that's how they wanted it. You play a dead guy the whole movie, basically. Well, yeah, I'm alive some of the time. I'm alive some of the time. It's very touching. It's very dramatic. It's a very well-written story. It's really great. And there's an extraordinary... Naomi Watts is great, and there's an amazing dog in the movie. That dog is...

the most one of the most responsive animals I've ever seen in my life when I first saw the first cut of the movie you would see something would happen in a scene and there'd be this sort of emotional moment and you would see the dog react to it and I kept going and someone who saw the movie said that's AI that's not a real dog I said that's the dog the dog heard it and felt it and expressed it this extraordinary thing so it's a it's a great dane and it's a it's an amazing animal

Wow.

All right. Yeah, and-- How do you stop them? How do you control them? No, you can't. They love you. Don't stop the love. Let the love come in. And I know you're going to-- I know you didn't plan this, but one of the themes I noticed in your career is that you have this kind of-- there's these animals that pop up in a lot of your films a lot in a cool way, you know? Like, Groundhog Day, and the friend, the dog, there's an elephant, there's, you know, gophers. Gopher problems, yeah.

So I don't know. Do you think there's something? I know you're not thinking about that, but is there something? What is it about these animals? It has something to do with, there's a lot of actors that just don't want to work with them. So I've got to find, I've got to go into the animal kingdom to get a co-star.

But it works out okay for me. I don't know. It is funny that it keeps coming up like that. I should be worried. I don't know. I don't know. But the animals are the real ones. I mean, I got bit by the gopher in Groundhog Day. You know? The gopher in Caddyshack blew the place up. This dog is really great. I rode an elephant in a movie that was fantastic. You know, I've...

You know, I'm not one of those guys, but, I mean, this dog is smarter than many people that I've ever met. And the elephant I worked with was smarter than virtually everyone I've ever met. So their intelligence is, you know, it's a mystery to us. And it's, you know, probably...

Sort of, for me, it's entry-level dealing. They say, you know, before you try to have children, you should have a pet to see if you can care for someone, take care of something, another creature. So, probably. I'm getting to it a little backwards. LAUGHTER

I look for a pet elephant before I have kids. Let me try to find one. A starter. And I mean, you are, you're such a, you came up, not only are you an American icon, but you came up through these iconic American institutions like SNL and, you know, create Ghostbusters and Second City, all these institutions. And my question to you is, you know, it feels like these institutions kind of

don't have the kind of sheen that they used to have before in terms of attracting all the talent. Because now people are going to TikTok and making a video in the toilet seat. And I guess my question to you, do you like that? Is that a good thing that people are on their toilet making videos and...

You know, there shouldn't be any limits about what can be funny, you know? I've been watching a lot of South Park lately. I never really got to watch a lot of South Park. It's brilliant. Yes. It really is. No, South Park is brilliant. It really is brilliant.

And they, you know, they can be scatological. They can be anything. But they do it in such an intelligent way that it's constantly amusing to me. But, like, in terms of, like, the sheen of the great institutions like Second City or Saturday Night Live, well, I, you know, I go back with them. Like, Saturday Night Live, when I was there, there were seven of us in the cast. Now there's, you know, a couple dozen. So there's a lot of people who...

and Second City used to have like two casts, you know. Now they have like a university, you know. They've got like a seven-story building or something with like people taking the classes. So it's sort of, it's

It's not necessarily watered down. And you can't say Saturday night is sort of watered down, but there's a lot more people. It's a little harder to get traction if you're one of the actors. But Saturday Night Live, any week, there can be a sketch that's absolutely brilliant, just like in the early days. Any week, they can make one that's absolutely perfect.

But, you know, it's just the group, it's a little harder to wrangle because there's, you know, it's a herd. They've got a herd of people. Yeah. But I guess my question, because I revered American institutions, American comedy institutions specifically. That's why I'm here in America. Yeah.

And I came here because my dream was always to be... take part in it in some way. Well, look here. Look here. Yeah, no, I'm lucky. And, you know, I'm lucky that these guys gave me a shot. But I guess I always saw the value of these institutions. Well, there's a huge value. If you can go through those things, if you can go from one... I always used to say, if you can...

go through Second City and Saturday Night Live, you can do anything. Right. You can do anything because the intent, the, not the, I shouldn't say pressure because I believe pressure is sort of imaginary, but the demand to be attentive to what you're doing and every professional on Saturday Night Live, like every guy on a camera, every prop man, every single person is the top guy, the top woman in their field. So everybody's excellent. So if I screw up, he's looking at me like, nice, nice. Yeah.

You know? So, and that's what it was. You were in this environment of real, like, just a transformative situation.

where you had to perform. It was an elite pressure cooker. Well, it wasn't exactly... I wanted to say pressure cooker, but I want people to get off of pressure. I don't sort of believe in pressure. I think it's sort of imaginary. I think it's just... It's emotion that you can't control, and that's why it sort of gets up, and it feels like the top of your head's coming off. But it's...

it's really just a, there's a demand to show up, you know, and you have to relax, otherwise that pressure comes up to your brain and then you don't work so well.

- Well, speaking of American institutions, Mr. Bill Murray, your institution. - Thanks, bro. - Thank you. Thank you so much for the movies you did. - Thank you so much. - You're one of the people that my mom is excited that I'm interviewing. - Oh, great. - When we were kids in Manchester, New Hampshire, we would watch your movies. It brought my family together.

If my dad was still around, he would have loved this. He would have loved that I got to meet you. I'm sorry, if my dad were around, he'd love it too. Thanks so much, Mr. Bill Murray, everybody. The Friend opens in New York March 28th and nationwide April 4th. Mr. Bill Murray, we're going to take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this. That's our show for the night. Now here it is, your moment of zen.

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