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You're listening to Comedy Central. Welcome to The Daily Show. It was tax day this week, but some people, and this is crazy, don't like paying taxes. And one of them is our own Josh Johnson.
It's long been known that in America, the rich often don't pay their fair share of taxes. By exploiting a complex tax system filled with loopholes, the richest 1% pay a lot less than the average taxpayer. But how do they do it? And could I learn their tricks to help out the everyday taxpayer like you and I? I spoke to tax expert Robert Wood of tax firm Wood LLP to find out the easiest ways to dodge the IRS. His first tip? Real estate.
Big tax shelter. So generally speaking, you write off a piece of the building every year. So on like this year, I'll claim the bathroom. And then like the next year. But just to clarify, you only get to do this if you own the building, not that you work here. That is all very interesting, but I do not own it.
So back to square one. Charity is another one. So let's say I start a charity and my charity will be real, very real. Okay. My charity of broke ass audits, like you get an audited.
Let's break off your broke ass a little cash, right? There are lots of people who've gotten in trouble with fake charities. So that won't work. Churches are qualified charities, which is why some people have tried to start their own churches. So if I start my own church, I mean, how many followers are we talking? I don't think they call them followers, but I don't know. Oh, that's right. That's like a cult thing.
Another thing that wealthy people do, you've got art. How much is it worth? Donate it to charity. And if you donate it, how much can you fairly write off? I have some artwork that I want to show you. And don't hold back. Okay. No offense, but I mean, it looks kind of infantile. My guess is it's not worth very much. You need to talk to somebody who's a
qualified art appraiser. I was really banking on the art thing working out. You're just not there yet, Josh. This was not looking good for my tax return, but there had to be something. One of my great tax planning secrets for you today is dying. If you own stock or if you owned a house at some point, hang on to it. It's the doing something with it, selling, that triggers tax. Then when you die, it's never taxed.
So dying turns out to be tax-efficient. That's something that wealthy people count on. That's deferring, right? Yeah. Couldn't I just defer till I die? Yeah. Okay, so, kill myself.
That's great advice. I want you to die generations from now. Thank you. It's a better tax deal anyways. Wow, okay. I do have a quick question for you then. Since the rich are deferring on all these assets and have hired tax lawyers to make sure that it stays complicated and they're less likely to get audited, who is paying tax?
Regular wage earners. I mean, everybody pays tax if they've got income and the wealthy people are paying tax, too. But if you look at their income versus how much tax they're paying, they're typically paying a lot lower rates. So if we all learn the tax law and we all start doing these things, how will like roads get built? Good question. Somebody at the lower end has to be paying the regular taxes themselves.
to make room for the government to do those things. Just don't be poor. Yeah. That's terrifying. The more you know about tax, the more terrifying it can be. That's why I don't sleep very much. So whether I become rich or just die, at least I know how to avoid my taxes like a millionaire. My man.
I do actually need your help picking this up. This is like all the money that I have. Yeah. I'm not taking any of it. No, no, I didn't think you were going to take it. New Yorkers disagree on a lot of things. Yankees versus Mets, pizza toppings, whether you can poop on the subway or not.
But now there's one thing ripping New Yorkers apart more than ever. - Congestion pricing is official. - Drivers are now paying to drive south of 60th Street. - I had to pay the congestion pricing. - How do you feel about it? - Not too happy. - cars or ingestion price? - Congestion price. - cars. - both. - the cars. - I don't like the idea of all those New Jersey people being taxed so heavily. - Do you think that maybe it should go the other way? Maybe New York should have to pay $9 to get into Jersey.
Absolutely not. Nobody wants to go to Jersey unless they have to. You need cars. Yeah, because cars are very important. Because as a New Yorker, how else are you going to get where you need to be? Besides the subway or the bus or bike or like a pedicab or the horse-drawn carriage, scooters?
Segways, mower blades are in again. Solo wheels, piggyback rides, you know, some nice walking, walking with a purpose. Yeah, yeah, we need more options, you know? They need the money for the MTA. It's supposedly raised $15 billion a year. So, you know, I definitely feel okay.
to the city doing this. - What type of improvements could be made to the MTA? - Regular service that's completely reliable. Teleportation. - Teleportation is actually way more likely than the regular service. - The first thing I would love to fix is that we have lights everywhere. I don't have to be afraid to walk in a dark tunnel when I get off of work at night. - Okay. - I would also like to have them have some people maybe help the people that I see walking around naked.
I'm very sorry about that. That was me and that was a hot day. - I mean, maybe they could use some of that money to put like some Glade plugins in the subway cars. That'd be a huge improvement right there. - I'm guessing because of the crime rate in the subway, it's probably not the number one priority, I guess. - But if I'm being mugged on the subway and it also stinks, that's two bad things happening to me at the same time. I wanna get robbed somewhere clean. - Yeah, I think hygiene is important.
One of my biggest hopes is that with less cars, with less congestion, right, it'll make Eric Adams trying to get away from the feds.
A much cooler chase. There you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He'll be able to breathe. We're talking like born supremacy level chase. So, I mean, less cars means less noise. Who would have thought with less noise I can finally hear jackhammers. I can hear sirens. I can hear like f*** you's and screams and stuff. Yeah. Somebody sees me. That's, you know, that's showing love in New York. Saying f*** you. So, you know, I walk around and say f*** you to this camera. F*** you. That's showing love. Yeah, a good f***.
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Taylor Swift's endorsement of Kamala Harris was a boom for her campaign with women. But a lot of people say she still needs to do better with men. So I'm here outside one of the bastions of masculinity, a gym.
to talk to real men about which celebrity endorsement would move the needle for them. Hopefully, I don't get mistaken for Terry Crews. What celebrity endorsement carries the weight for you that like a Taylor Swift would carry for women? - Do they have to be alive or? - Alive would help. Alive is probably one of the most important things that they could be. - 'Cause the first thing I'd say was Prince. - If Prince came back from the dead and was like my man,
- You gotta vote for Kamala. Would that move the needle for you? - Absolutely. - Okay. - I don't know why. - Why? 'Cause you just saw a ghost?
What about some non-paranormal endorsements? Is there a male celebrity that would make you vote for Kamala Harris? Kendrick Lamar. Maybe LeBron. He's a big guy. I feel like LeBron can move the needle a little bit. Okay. Probably Travis Scott. Travis Scott. Those celebs were so 2024. How about some throwbacks? I would say Peyton Manning. Peyton Manning. Deion Sanders. Deion Sanders. Yeah, Deion Sanders. And Celine Dion.
That's my girl, you know what I mean? Celine Dion. Yes. So everyone that you've mentioned. Yes. And Celine Dion. Yes.
And it doesn't matter to you that she's Canadian? No, it doesn't matter. So what male celebrity endorsement would move the needle for you? I'll leave Michael Jai White. Michael Jai White, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, and why is that? He works out, I work out. You know, I don't have to sit down and like really think for myself. Look at the issues, look at the candidates, and then maybe of Michael Jai White. Maybe, we got to sit down together and chit chat. Yeah.
All right. I feel like you're just trying to beat Michael John White now. No, no, no, no, no, no. Sure, he's tough. He's talented. He got killed by the Joker. I get it. But maybe I could prove to these swole voters that they could look to me for political guidance. There we go. Men. So, when it comes to bench press, right now, I'm hitting, like, a clean 125. Okay. That's pretty good, right? Fantastic. Really? Yeah. Oh, okay. That's...
That's good news for me. Are there any male celebrities, right? And we don't have to talk about A-list. They could be in front of you right now in this moment whose opinion means something to you.
By a long pause. Clearly, he was intimidated by meeting such a famous and yoked celebrity, IRL. So I decided to change the subject to the candidates. What do you think Kamala Harris would have to do to appeal to more men? If she agreed to a boxing match with Logan Paul, what do you think that would do? Would that move the needle for her? I think if she knocks him out, no doubt. Wow, okay. Knock him out cold.
Drag him out the ring. All right. President. Round after round, he kept coming back to the same question about masculinity. Like, is Trump like a man's man to you? No, he's not. Not really? He's not an honest person. Gotcha. And that's a big part of being a man to me, is being vulnerable, admitting your mistakes. So if I'm vulnerable with you right now, that's manly? Yeah. Okay.
I may have fibbed earlier with the 125. It's really 115. It's okay. I knew. You knew? Now, does Trump seem manly to you when you think about, like, a man's man? I'm being honest. The reason why I respect what he says sometimes, because he speak his mind. So for you, it's speaking your mind that's, like, the manly thing that you like. Yeah, because he tell you straight up. You know what I mean? Yeah. So you like that Trump lets you know from far away. From far away. Hey.
I'm crazy. Yeah. At the end of the day, it seemed like the only way to get some men to vote for Kamala might be to trick them into it. What if they put a 45-pound kettlebell on the lever to vote for Kamala Harris? Do you think more guys would do it? What would do it? Yeah. Put a sign that says, like, try and pull this. You know what I mean? Oh. Don't even tell them the way. Just be like, I bet you can't. There you go. Yeah. Bet you can't. Okay. Okay.
Bet you can't. That should be the slogan. Kamala, bet you can't. I bet you can't. I mean, it might, if you don't understand the context, look pretty bad. Just say Kamala Harris, bet you can't. That may backfire. Yeah.
What up, world? It's Josh Johnson, full-time Daily Show correspondent and full-time black guy. But more than that, I'm also a part-time voter. Now, black voters have been the backbone of electing Democratic presidents since Bill Clinton went on Arsenio. In fact, 91% of black voters voted for Hillary Clinton in 2016 and 92% voted for Joe Biden last election. So why does this year feel...
Different. New polling shows 23% support among black voters for former President Trump. That's up 19 points since the 2020 election. Contrary to popular belief, not all black people know each other. So in order to find out how all black people felt about Trump, I got six from the tri-state area to ask, do we f*** with Trump? Okay, so who will you be voting for in 2024? Daryl.
Do I have to say his name? I don't want to, but more than likely it's going to be Trump. Yeah. Unbelievable. Unbelievable. Who are you going to be voting for? Biden. And then, Victor? I'm with her. Oh, Biden, okay. Trump. Trump. Biden. Biden. Trump. Okay, we're an even split. Oh. Which, yeah, I didn't see that coming. Okay.
So, do you think there's going to be a big shift, any sort of change? I think there's going to be a big shift. Me too. Big shift? Yes. Really? Okay. For me, I've always been a Democrat. And it's like, for the most part with the Democratic Party, they always make a bunch of promises that they can't deliver. You know, they use the issues of the African American community as a soapbox to stand on. Mm-hmm.
and make promises, you know, just to get us to come out and vote. And then once we vote and everyone's in place, it's like, well, what happened? Would you say it's anything like somebody's in your DM and they're really laying it down, I'm going to take you over here. Girl, I'll take you to the top. You know what I mean? And then you finally go on the date and it's Burger King. Or you get catfished. Yeah, yeah. If the polls are right and Trump is going up with black voters, what changed?
I wish I knew. I am not a huge fan of Trump. He don't respect the black person. And Biden does? Has Biden issued an apology for the things that he's been caught saying? He said, if you don't vote for me, you're not black. You're not black. What is that? They have both said things that were questionable and unsavory. But when you start looking at facts, it's like, Biden, you done dropped the ball, brother. OK.
Okay, so some black voters feel let down by Democrats. But I wasn't sure if they knew about how Trump likened himself to black Americans. So I showed them some footage of Trump at the Black Conservative Federation Gala. I'm being indicted for you, the black population. I want to play a little game, all right? Now, the game is going to be either fist or finger, right? If you like what's happening, you're going to put up your black fist. Now, if you don't like what's happening, there's a finger.
Y'all ready? We're ready. Okay. Good. These lights are so bright in my eyes that I can't see too many people out there. But I can only see the black ones. I can't see any white ones, you see? That's how far I've come. That's how far I've come. I can't wait. I have dark hair. That's the problem is soundbites in the media just say your answer. Okay. Yeah.
I'll play the next clip for you real quick. Black conservatives understand better than most that some of the greatest evils in our nation's history have come from corrupt systems that try to target and subjugate others. You understand that. I think that's why the black people are so much on my side now, because they see what's happening to me happens to them. He had me at the first question. He messed up. And then he messed up at the end. So, okay, can we get our signs up? Uh-oh.
It's the same again. Okay, let's go on to the next clip real quick. But I got indicted for nothing, for something that is nothing. And a lot of people said that that's why the black people like me, because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. And they actually viewed me as I'm being discriminated against. It's been pretty amazing. LAUGHTER
All right. So so kind of still along the same party lines. Now, do you think Trump is being discriminated against? Not at all. It's not one side. It's the legal system. No matter who you are, if you do these things, you get charged for it. That's it. There are two systems of justice. We cannot get away with the same thing white folks get away with.
But with this different sort of accountability system, does it feel like Trump is bad at being white? - -He was 91? I noticed how, when I was incarcerated, right, how...
The white incarcerated people seem to be more angrier than the black incarcerated people. Trump is like the same thought pattern. This ain't supposed to happen to me. I'm not supposed to be indicted. People are not supposed to tell me I committed a crime because I am privileged.
Damn, I had no idea the appeal process for incarcerated white people was gaslighting. But Trump is fighting close to 100 felony charges. How much of a criminal is too much of a criminal? If more charges get racked up, maybe things that start to become a bit more egregious, is that going to start to weigh on whether or not you're going to change your vote?
You pay attention. You listen to the facts, not the fluff. And then you actually have to start doing some research to make sure that what's being presented to you is actual facts. And it takes some digging. Okay, so if you dug and you did your research and you found out what Josh just said was true, that's where you're evoked? Probably not.
I definitely, you know, did not sit down with this panel to change any minds, and I clearly have not. So, yeah, I guess some black folks do f*** with Trump. But was there anything I could get this panel to agree on? Can we keep these two so useful in everyday life? I was thinking the same thing.
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