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We got one for you tonight. My name is Jon Stewart. What a program we have designed for you a la carte. It's going to be fantastic. Our guest tonight, General Stanley McChrystal, will be joining us. Wrote a book. Chances are I will McRib him about the McRack war. All right. First, President Donald Trump. God. No! No! Respect his authorita. No!
Honestly, so much comes at us every day with him, I can't even sleep, organize, thoughts, eat. I just... And he knows. He knows he's toying with us. Here he is on Tuesday of last week. We're going to have a very, very big announcement to make. Like, as big as it gets, and I won't tell you on what. Oh, good. So we won't know how to prepare.
Should we wear our good pants or the ones we piss in? But fine, don't tell us this big announcement. Just tell us when. And that announcement will be made either Thursday or Friday or Monday before we leave. Is it sweeps week? Is that what this is? But fine, we will keep our eyes out for any announcement bombshells. And on Friday, I think we got one.
The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus can be suspended in a time of invasion. So I would say that's an option we're actively looking at. The government, the United States government, is actively looking at suspending due process and the rule of law. That's a big announcement. Big enough for Stephen Miller to risk bursting into flames.
because of the touch of God's sunlight. The only time a president has done it unilaterally without the authorization of Congress was Abraham Lincoln during the Civil War. That was the last. Really? So back when slavery was legal and the treatment for diarrhea was amputation.
But that being said, this is a big announcement. As you know, you know, ability of somebody to challenge their rights in courts is a pretty essential part of the rule of law. So certainly raising a lot of eyebrows with that comment. Just just eyebrows. Just the Trump administration is thinking of tearing up the Constitution. So here in Washington, we're hearing a lot of one legal scholar even said that's weird. So maybe that's the announcement.
Suspension of habeas corpus, unless there's something else. - President Trump is appointing former New York prosecutor, Jeanine Pirro, as interim US attorney. - You may say to yourself, well, that can't be the announcement, because that's just not that big a deal. Yet in this new world that we live in, this announcement registers the same as suspending habeas corpus on the eyebrow-o-meter. - Jeanine Pirro, a lot of eyebrows are being raised at this pick so far.
Hey, hey, hey, Janine, the new U.S. attorney in D.C. We're surprised, too. That is, by the way, the sound. Oh, also, they're suspending habeas corpus. So maybe maybe that's the big announcement.
But hey, we've got until today for any other announcements. Was there anything else? The Trump administration is preparing to accept a super luxury Boeing jumbo jet from the royal family of Qatar. That luxury jumbo jet, which has a value estimated at $400 million, the aircraft would be used by President Trump as a new Air Force One and then transferred to the Trump Presidential Library Foundation shortly before he leaves office. What? What?
Cutter is giving us a plane that Trump gets to keep. He's like the reverse Oprah. I get a jet and that's it. I get a jet for my library. Why does his library need a jet? Why would your presidential library need? Yeah, hello. I'm calling from Europe and I need a book about Trump by morning. And the book must travel in the comfort and style one can only get from Cutter.
It's known as the most luxurious private jet in the world, described as a flying palace. It features the biggest master bedroom in the sky, as well as some very plush living quarters and several private offices. Some of the nine bathrooms on board have full showers and even a bidet. I didn't even know water could go there. Okay.
Holy crap! That is not a plane. That is a flying f***ing palace. I'm not going to tell Trump how to run his business, but I would steam the shit out of those carpets. But hey, it's a jet from Qatar. We can trust them.
They're not suspect like Canada or working to undermine us like all of our other democratic allies in Europe. Qatar is considered an American ally, but it is also an ally of Iran and China and even Hamas. Oh, Trump's going to take a $400 million jet from people he would expel from Columbia University. You know what? This is shocking. This is shocking.
I think I know what this news might do to our eye pubes. It raises many, many eyebrows to have this sort of deal at all. Actually, that's how the plane flies. It overcomes Earth's gravity through the power of the raised eyebrows.
Look, obviously, the president would understand that a gift of this magnitude from a government with questionable ties to terror organizations combined with Article 1, Section 9, constitutional prohibition against the president accepting a foreign flying palace. He would understand that that's a legitimate. I'm just kidding. He was appalled that you'd even ask.
They're giving us a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't give us... I want to pay you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is. Or I could say, thank you very much. It's not a free jet. That's the point. You know the expression, there's no such thing as a free lunch? That's about being skeptical of the motives of somebody who gives you a sandwich. A sandwich, a BLT. Now, imagine that that BLT has an engine...
9 bathrooms and funds proxy wars.
So in the dizzying run-up to this big announcement of the possible suspension of habeas corpus or maybe the appointment of another Fox News star or the naked bribery of our highest elected officials, none of those were Trump's big announcement. President Trump just announced that prescription drug and pharmaceutical prices will be reduced by 30 to 80 percent almost immediately. This appears to be the major announcement that the president has been teasing for days.
I am having wanted that for years. Pharma has exploited the American consumer while we have in turn subsidized their whole industry with tax incentives and direct funds. I like this! But without getting into the weeds, explain this thing that I've wanted for a very long time like I'm incredibly dumb. Drug prices will come down. We're getting them down 60, 70, 80, 90 percent. But actually more than that if you think about it in the way, mathematically.
If you think about it mathematically, I don't want to brag, but I often think about numbers mathematically. How is this going to work? The rest of the world's going to have to pay a little bit more, and America's going to pay a lot less. Basically, what we're doing is equalizing. There's a new word that I came up with, which I think is probably the best word. We're going to equalize. Europe, Eureka, Euclid. Yeah, here it is. Equalize. I thought it sounded familiar. Look.
He's trying to kill us all. Look, I would like to think that the tenacious pleadings of progressive leaders like Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders helped make this possible. We are sick and tired of paying by far the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. I'm going to attack the prices on commonly used drugs. Put a cap on the cost of insulin, a cap on the cost of prescription drugs. And not one of those child caps that you can't. I have diarrhea.
Unfortunately, it turns out credit for the biggest, most important announcement in the history of this presidency goes to someone else. I mean, I'll tell you a story. A friend of mine who's a businessman, very, very, very top guy. Most of you would have heard of him. Highly neurotic, brilliant businessman, seriously overweight. That took a turn. Top guy, brilliant. You know, I'm famous. Bit of a chubbs.
Anyway, I'm sure public press coverage is a rough way for this guy to find out that he is saved in Trump's phone as neurotic fat friend. But what else can you tell us about this friend who's very famous, successful businessman? A highly neurotic, brilliant businessman, seriously overweight, and he takes the fat, the fat shot drug. The fat shot? Do you?
Any of your briefings? The fat, he takes the fat shot. You know, the fat shot. I got another friend, brilliant, real estate mogul. He takes the dick stiff bills. This guy takes the fat shot. This guy takes the dick stiff bills. I'm sorry, continue the story about this fat of a friend of yours. And he called me up and he said, "President, could I ask you a question?" I went, "I'm in London."
And I just paid for this damn fat drug I take. I said, it's not working. Yo, Rickles, that is ice cold. Your friend is like opening up like, oh, I took this bad drug. He's like, he's not worried. He's like, I'm drunk. This poor guy. He's just catching strays in the middle of a presidential press conference. Trump's talking about drug pricing reform. And he's like, hey, when this guy goes to the hospital, the nurse gives him 50 cc's of Crisco. He's fat.
Hey, my friend, he's very successful. Went to London and when they saw him, they changed the name of Big Ben to just Ben because this guy's fat. He's a fat piece of shit, this guy. Anyway, back to life-saving drug pricing. Again, President Trump, what does any of this have to do with pricing? He said, I just paid $88 and in New York I paid $1,300. What the hell is going on? He said, so I checked.
And it's the same box made in the same plant by the same company. It's the identical pill. This is a great businessman, so... But he's not familiar with this crazy situation that we have. But he was stunned. Yeah, he was as stunned as he is fat. I mean, oh, boy. By the way, I don't know if anybody realized, but the fat shot somehow turned into a fat pill in the middle of the story. It's how you know the story is true.
But, you know, whether the story's true or not, Donald Trump's point is, if you find yourself in the socialized health care systems of London and you want to run out and get some Ozempic and some fish and chips, don't bother, because his fat f*** of a friend ate them all like a pot of pork is on a tuna bender. But the point is, right now his poor friend is at home going, no, look, it feels like a decade ago that they threatened to suspend habeas corpus.
It was that long ago yesteryear when the Knicks were still up 2-0. And since then, we've had the largest bribe ever given to an American president, the seeming surrender of a trade war we started, and the socializing of our pharmaceutical industry.
What even is this country? What operating... Four months ago, we were a standard-issue Democratic Constitutional Republic. Now we're some kind of anarcho-klepto-socialist-communist Silk Road reality show. The only foundational unchanging edict that we can even hang our hats on anymore is that whatever we are now as a country, that country is closed to any refugees. As Stephen Miller said, America is now for Americans only.
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You don't need 30, 37 South Africans. Now you'll make do with just one or two. Wait, this wouldn't have anything to do with the white thing, would it? Their land is being confiscated in South Africa. I don't care about their race, their color. I don't care about their height, their weight. Oh, you care about their weight. When we come back, General Stanley McChrystal will be joining us. Don't go away.
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Well, I'm just going to break out of this and start with what I want from you. From me? I want you to start a national conversation on character. Yes. I think we could begin it tonight with this group. It's a fine group. I think we... What's the framing of the conversation? I think we turn the lights up, we bring some beer in. Guys, what kind of character are we looking for here?
Well, how would you-- what is the framing of the national conversation on character in your mind? Yeah, I think first is character is our choice. That's the great thing about it. We have agency over who we as individuals are. And Heraclitus said an individual's character is their fate. - Character is destiny. - I think that's true. Yeah. I also think it's true of a nation. And so we get to choose what our character is. Not somebody else. We get to choose.
And it's the answer. Didn't we just try that? Yeah. Fair point. We chose something. American people went character. And only 65% of America voted. Yes. And the reality is we can do better than that. Right. What I think we can do. If character is the essence of who we are, Thomas Paine said that reputation is what men think of us. Character is what angels know of us.
Then I think if we look inside and we say, what can we, each of us as individuals, be? We have the opportunity to be something different. I mean, none of us is perfect. Every one of us makes a mistake every day. I'm 70 years old. I make mistakes and it still frustrates me. You're 70? What am I doing wrong? What the hell? What is that? What, are you just choosing good character? You just...
Meanwhile, I look like I sleep in a meat dehydrator.
The great thing about character is it is a combination of two things. It is our convictions. It's what we believe. Right. And there's no right or wrong to that, except we have to have thought about them. We have to know what they are. The beauty of writing this book is it forced me to put on paper and to really think about what I believe. Then the other half of it is our discipline. Do we live to them? You know, you can have a lot of convictions you tell people about, but if you don't live them,
They're zero. Right. And so I think our character is the essential identity of us as people and us as a nation. And we've led it a road. Do you view this... So here's what I see with the audience a little bit now. And I come out usually in the beginning, and I have a little conversation with them, generally beer-less, unfortunately. That's a mistake. And I'm no... It really is.
It's okay, though, because they'll all get high as soon as they leave the room. I'm noticing a thirst, like an anxiety about this idea of control. I think people feel they've lost that agency by living in a country. And look, people win elections, people lose elections. Sometimes you live with a president that doesn't necessarily reflect you. This feels...
different so how does this conversation around character I've always thought action is the antidote to anxiety what action then within this can bring some relief there's a thirst out there for conviction leadership discipline that they're not getting. Yeah, I think it's got 3 steps. I think the first is we need to think about character more that's largely individual but you can share with people
Then we need to talk about it. We need to talk about it in small groups, not just on TV, but we need to talk about it in our schools and our families. We need to have those kinds of... What are the parameters when you say we need to think about character? Yeah. What are the parameters that come to your mind when you think about that? Is it Boy Scout pledge stuff, like be courteous, kind, and forgiving, all that sort of thing, or is it something different? There are certain norms that I think almost all of us would agree on. But as you talked about faith earlier, there are...
Parts of faith that we vary on. But I think that if we talk about what are the things that sort of bound America together, what are the things that we all believe, how we treat people, be fair to people, have empathy for?
give an opportunity to people. -So how do you square that? It brings up such an interesting conversation, because the worlds that we might inhabit would have a very different view. I might look at the January Sixers and go, "That was a lack of character." You know, one man's terrorist, another man's freedom fighter. How do you square that? And what do you do with people that you think stepped over a red line?
But in their mind was almost a heroic action. I think that's right. First, you need to listen to them. One of the things I learned in the counterterrorist fight was we had our forces, which, you know, I was obviously very close to the most elite people. And then we had our enemies. And there was a perception that they were two poles different. They actually had bent up.
The personal attributes of the best people that I worked with and the best people that we fought, they were courageous, they believed in their cause, they were willing to sacrifice. There was a different life journey that got them to where they were. And if we're willing to listen to another person's life journey,
And admit often that had we had that same life journey, we would reach those same conclusions. Then you reach at a different point. Then they're not suddenly the enemy. They just have a different perspective. Is the idea if I had just had Fox News on.
I would have been doing that on Nancy Pelosi's desk like that that just does is there must be some incontrovertible truth though is is there not we can't be yeah is the idea that we are al Qaeda al Qaeda is us that that's hard to square. Well it is but if we try to say they're incontrovertible truths, you know many of them what are they.
You know, we start to say he courteous, kind and forgiving. Yeah, I mean, that's pretty good. And those are the things that are common denominator sort of things. And that's where we have to connect, because the reality is we're not going to have the same view from different parts of the world, different parts of the country, different zip codes, different economic backgrounds, because you're
Your life journey is just enough different. Tell me in practice. So you have to negotiate. You're in war. I refer to either the counterinsurgency in Iraq or in Afghanistan. Yeah. You are dealing with on one level ideological warriors. Right. Maybe in Afghanistan. On another level, mercenary to some extent. You go in there with a bunch of money and go, what are they paying you? I'll pay you this. How did you negotiate?
Find common ground with them. Did you have to? Where does the wisdom of this come from for you? Yeah, I think from experience, one of the things you learn is you have to try to find common ground and you have to start by having enough empathy. And remember, empathy is not sympathy. Doesn't mean you're rubbing somebody's belly and you agree with them. It means that you can. Would that have ended the Afghanistan war? Probably pretty quickly. Bring in the...
You have to be able to put yourself on the other side of the table. You know, I would talk to Pashtun elders and they had big turbans and beards and craggy faces and different lives in mind, spoke a different language, had a different religion. But in reality, they were actually pretty good people. And if you had their loyalty and their respect...
They were as good as we are. In fact, they are very similar to us. So if you stop assuming that anyone who doesn't share those attributes is different and therefore less than you, you have a different approach to it.
And you have to be, of course, hard on yourself as well because. So is that, you know, the book starts, you famously, you did an interview for Rolling Stone during the Obama administration and where you were critical of maybe some of the tax that we had taken in the war, the way it was being prosecuted, not enough supply, things like that. And you resigned because of that.
That's how you open this book. Right. Is that where you're reflecting on yourself? Very much so. Of course, I canceled my Rolling Stone subscription right after that. But but the reality. Yeah. Don't worry. Everyone else did, too. Don't even worry about it. It's funny now because, you know, we've got a little time and space. But no, we had an article that came out that I didn't think was accurate, but I accepted responsibility for it.
And the reality was, in that moment, I had been born in an Army hospital. I'd lived in an Army family. I'd gone to West Point at age 17. I was now 55, almost 56. And suddenly, in an instant, when I offered my resignation to President Obama, I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm not a commander. I'm not a soldier. What am I? You could say I'm a failure. I go home. Is that how you felt? I felt exactly that way.
I felt as though a bolt of lightning had... I'd always thought I could be fired for incompetence or killed in combat. I never thought I'd be accused of something like that. And so I offer my resignation to President Obama, who was very gracious, but he accepted it. I had flown home all night from Afghanistan for this meeting. I drive across the city to where my wife was living in a set of military quarters, and I tell Annie...
It's over. 'Cause she and I had been married for 34 years, and I said, "Our career's over. I'm out." -Holy... -And she looked at me, and she said, "Good. We've always been happy, and we'll always be happy." And in that moment, what she communicated to me without being straight, she said, "We're gonna face forward." And I always describe Annie as driving or living life like she drives with no use for the rearview mirror. And...
I don't want to say anything, but she's here. She can hear you right now. I see her right over there. It's going to be a long night. Oh, you're not kidding. Who's driving home? But we've been married 48 years. And if you think about it,
you commit to something. And I had committed to the military. I had committed to my marriage. And I'm committed to my country now. And so when I ask you to help lead a national conversation on character, you have the stature. You have the reach. It's basic cable, sir. It's not... You really should have gone on Colbert. I think that... If you want stature and reach... No, I mean, as we say...
If people are thirsty for something different from what they see, let's encourage them. Not that we're going to provide it from the outside, but we're going to have them provide it to themselves. This needs to start with young people. So you look at me. Okay.
I'm looking at me a shoulder. This is but it brings up such an interesting thought, because so I'm reflecting on when this happened to you. It was basically it was an article where you said some things that might be intemperate for a man in uniform or in command. That's really it. There was no secrets divulged. Now you're watching the secretary of defense Snapchatting his wife. Hey, we're bombing a date, you know, doesn't resign.
Is that character because it's not you resign because your sense of duty and character felt that you would let yourself down and let the country down. But is there character in the reason he's still there is loyalty. And isn't that a character trait that's also valuable? How do you process what's happening now?
Yeah, I certainly think you've got to value loyalty. I can't put myself in his position. I can put myself in the position of an American. Right. I can put myself in the position of someone who has both launched and been on those missions. And if someone had been using an unsecure mode to communicate about him, I'd have been upset about it. Yeah. In fact, I could see that.
Yeah. I think for the people I worked with, that had gotten your ass kicked. Right. But the reality is, the thing that upset me most about that was not the mistake. People make mistakes, and we'll make them forever. It was after the fact when people went on public news and they said the information wasn't classified. Of course it was. Right. And I don't like the idea that they would look and say something that I know is not true and I think they know is not true.
How much of an impediment to a national conversation about character is the reality distortion field about, you know, incontrovertible things that are true or not true
And how do you have a conversation about character in that environment? Yeah, it makes it particularly hard because if we start to have a conversation on character now, a certain group is always going to feel defensive because they think that you are leveraging the word "character" against them. In fact, it can go both ways. People on both ends of the spectrum can feel that.
But we've still got to have it. And that's why this has got to be a conversation that begins in the center, I think at pretty low levels, that starts with saying, "We're not going to vote for you. We're not going to buy your products. We're not going to like you on social media. We're not going to do all of those things you want us to do unless we see some level of character, not perfect character. We're never going to see that." -Right. -But what we're going to see is a set of norms that say,
We respect the requirement that there is character. If you make a mistake, admit it. What can our kids learn from watching us? If they are absolutely disappointed every time they see or if they just assume that's the way it is, that'll be even worse.
And I do think there is a certain now mindset that what is rewarded now is result and not process and character. It's, you know, we're in a different situation. But I would even say expand your aperture on this. It's not just about character. I do think there is a certain lacking of national conversations on everything. Truth and reconciliation for the American people with each other.
I think it's absolutely right. I think it could start with character, but it really has got to emanate out from there. We have to have a different definition of what we think it means to be an American citizen. Right. Because right now, many American citizens think that if you pay your taxes and you vote and only about 65 percent of us vote, that you've done your job. In fact, the responsibilities are much broader than that.
It is to every other American because a nation is only a covenant between citizens. God did not create the United States. What are you saying? You're blowing it. It's an agreement. And we all sign up for it. Yeah. Well, it sounds to me like you have a series of books to write on character and other things. So I flip it back to you. You. You.
Keep the conversation going about that, General. It's so good to see you. All character. It's available now. General Stanley McChrystal. Quick break. We'll be right back after this. Such an important...
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