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‘Modern Love’: 'Materialists' Director Celine Song Believes in Love at First Conversation

2025/6/29
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Celine Song: 作为一名前媒人，我发现人们用来描述爱情的语言与真实的恋爱体验并不相符。我曾认为自己对爱情有所了解，但实际上，爱情对我来说仍然是一个谜。我发现，人们常常认为自己是爱情专家，但实际上他们对爱情感到困惑。对我而言，爱情是一种臣服，在现代社会中，人们痴迷于控制和追求外在价值，但这与真正的爱情无关。重要的是，当你年老时，仍然能够欣赏对方的内在。我与丈夫的相遇并非一见钟情，而是通过对彼此作品的深入了解而产生的。爱情对我来说是一个动词，需要每天去实践。 Anna Martin: Celine Song擅长捕捉爱情故事中那些安静、私密的瞬间。她的新电影《Materialists》讲述了一个媒人自己却难以找到爱情的故事。这与Celine即将朗读的文章作者的经历相似，他们都对爱情感到困惑。

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Celine Song, the director of the movie "Materialists", shares her experience as a matchmaker and reveals the insights she gained about love and dating. She contrasts the ease of falling in love with the difficulty of navigating the modern dating world, where people often focus on superficial aspects rather than genuine connection.
  • Celine Song worked as a matchmaker in her 20s.
  • She believes that dating is different from love.
  • People often try to control and optimize their dating experience, but this doesn't guarantee love.
  • Love is easy because it's uncontrollable, which is also what makes it hard.

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The director Celine Song won over audiences and critics alike with her first feature film, “Past Lives,” the semi-autobiographical tale of a married Korean American woman meeting up with her former childhood sweetheart. Now Song is back with another story about love called “Materialists.” This time the main character is a matchmaker, a job that Song did briefly in her early 20s.

On this episode of “Modern Love,” Song reads Louise Rafkin’s Modern Love essay “My View From the Margins),” about a relationship columnist who can’t figure out love in her own life. And Song tells us how neither falling in love at age 24 nor making a career of writing about love has brought her any closer to understanding it. “It’s the one thing that makes me feel like a fool,” Song says.

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