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Ep. 2132 - Trump Unleashes MIND-BLOWING Gaza Plan!

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Ben Shapiro: 我认为特朗普总统的中东政策与传统观点背道而驰,以往的共识是解决巴勒斯坦问题是中东和平的关键,但特朗普政府认识到巴勒斯坦内部的激进化以及对以色列的敌视,因此将巴勒斯坦问题搁置,转而关注以色列与其他阿拉伯邻国的共同安全和经济利益,促成了亚伯拉罕协议。我认为,特朗普政府的加沙地带计划旨在通过美国主导的投资和重建,将加沙地带转变为经济发展区,为当地居民提供住房、就业和安全,并解决人口迁移问题,为希望离开的巴勒斯坦人提供机会,同时阻止哈马斯继续统治,我认为,特朗普政府的政策是基于现实的考量,而非西方国家长期以来的幻想,因此更有可能实现中东地区的和平与繁荣。我认为,如果伊朗胆敢袭击我或者我的团队,我已留下明确指示,他们将彻底被摧毁,不复存在。我认为,美国需要对伊朗采取强硬立场,阻止其发展核武器并支持恐怖主义,因此我恢复了对伊朗政权的最大压力政策,并采取行动打击其代理人,以维护美国及其盟友的安全。

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Folks, let Donald J. Trump cook. So last night, President Trump gave a press conference, an absolutely stunning, groundbreaking,

timeline changing press conference with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, in which he announced his plan for the day after in the Gaza Strip. And people are going absolutely insane over this plan in the Gaza Strip. Now, before we get to what exactly that plan is, the first thing that we have to understand is that all of the conventional wisdom, all of the State Department approved conventional wisdom for decades has led to full scale disaster in the Middle East.

It has led to an intractable, multi-decade problem of a radicalized Palestinian population that supports terrorism rather than any regime that would actually allow for peace, prosperity, and the building of a livable life. Hamas was elected by the Palestinian people. Today, by polling data, the Palestinian people still support Hamas after the complete destruction of the Gaza Strip, after, and in response to, Hamas killing 1,200 Israelis and taking 250 refugees.

into captivity, where many of them were murdered, many of them were abused, and many of them still are, including American citizens.

So whatever the conventional wisdom says is wrong, and it has been wrong. And this is where President Trump has always had a different way of thinking about this. He's always had a different way of thinking about this. President Trump thinks outside the box. And what that has led to is more peace and prosperity in the region. People who think inside the box have led to some of the most intractable, most violent, worst conflict in humanity ever.

Donald Trump has thrown the conventional wisdom out, and what he has replaced it with is common sense understanding of reality and outside-the-box thinking, and the result was the Abraham Accords. If you look back to Trump term number one, perhaps the most stunning example of President Trump thinking differently was the Abraham Accords. Everybody said he was not going to be able to get any sort of deal done in the Middle East. Instead, he ended up with

with the first true Arab-Israeli peace deals in modern history. He didn't win the Nobel Prize for that because the left hates him too much, but that was all Nobel Prize worthy and everyone knows it, including the left. Barack Obama won the Nobel Prize for existing. Donald Trump did not win the Nobel Prize for a variety of peace agreements between Israel and its Arab neighbors. And if Donald Trump had been reelected in 2020,

He was just weeks away from brokering a Saudi-Israeli Abraham Accord. That is because Donald Trump does not think inside the box. So here's what the conventional wisdom says, and then we'll get to what exactly Donald Trump is proposing that is just exploding brains across the conventional wisdom spectrum. The conventional wisdom has said some of these following propositions.

With regard to Israel and the Palestinians, the Gaza Strip, Judea and Samaria. One, the way that you get to Middle Eastern peace is by solving the Palestinian problem first. By solving the intractable Palestinian issue first, and then peace blooms across the Middle East. This has been the going conventional wisdom for decades in the Middle East. And it was wrong. It was stupid. It is wrong. It has been stupid. Oslo was an ongoing process. The Oslo Accords.

which were originally put forward in the early 1990s, have been ongoing for three decades, and they are one of the giant failures in the history of diplomacy. They've resulted in more death, more carnage, more destruction, less safety, and all-out war in the Middle East.

President Trump, throughout that conventional wisdom, what he said was, listen, we have an intractable problem over here. A deeply radicalized population that wants to completely destroy its neighbor. The Palestinian population has no interest in a quote-unquote two-state solution, living side-by-side in peace and prosperity. And so if there's going to be peace in the Middle East, we are going to take that issue, we're going to put it to the side, and instead we are going to look to the common security and economic interests of Israel and its other Arab neighbors. And the Abraham Accords was the result.

Everyone said it couldn't be done. Everyone said it was stupid. Everybody said that it was backwards and wrong and unsophisticated and naive and not nuanced. And it turns out it was exactly right because Donald Trump took the conventional wisdom and he set it on fire. John Kerry, moron that he is, historic dolt, wrong about every single thing in his entire long, useless life. John Kerry, former secretary of state. He said that peace would never happen in the Middle East unless the Palestinian issue was put front and center.

And he was proved wrong at every single turn. More conventional wisdom. The other countries in the Middle East deeply care about the establishment of a Palestinian state. This has supposedly been a top priority. All of history shows this is not true. When Egypt was in control of the Gaza Strip from 1948 to 1967, was there an independent Palestinian state? Of course, the answer is no.

When Jordan was in control of Judea and Samaria from 1948 to 1967, was there an independent Palestinian state? No. Today, there could be an independent Palestinian state in Jordan. And the Hashemite dynasty says no, despite the fact that the vast majority of the population of Jordan actually is Palestinian.

Not only are the surrounding Middle Eastern states uninterested in a Palestinian state, they don't want one because they know that it will be a terror haven. The big reason that so many Arab countries, Muslim countries in the region don't want to take in Palestinian refugees is because they are afraid it will destabilize their country. And they are right. It destabilized Jordan when the PLO was located there in the early 1970s, leading to the full scale expulsion of tens of thousands of Palestinians, as well as the PLO.

Lebanon, which used to be a Christian state, was completely overrun by the PLO and turned into a hellhole. There are Syrian refugee camps that still contain Palestinians because no matter how hellish Syria is, whoever has been in charge there, whether it's Assad or now whether it's HDS, they're not particularly interested in fighting another front war with a radicalized Palestinian population. In the aftermath of the Gulf War, Kuwait expelled tens of thousands of Palestinians who had sided with Saddam Hussein.

So the idea that anyone in the Middle East is deeply interested in the establishment of a Palestinian state is a lie made up by Westerners. And Middle Eastern states have gone along with that lie because it's been a convenient way of shifting blame to Israel for their own internal failures and of prying concessions out of Westerners. But it was always a lie. And Donald Trump knows it's a lie. And that's why he has said repeatedly that the Saudis, the Egyptians, the Jordanians, they don't really care about a Palestinian state. That is a side quest.

Other conventional wisdom, that the way that you upset the Arab street is when you acknowledge reality, that if you acknowledge reality, the Arab street will go wild. It will be gigantic war in the Middle East. The most obvious example of this being the conventional wisdom that if the United States actually moved its embassy from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem, the eternal capital of Israel and the Jewish people, that if that were to happen, then the entire Middle East would go up in flames. And it turns out nothing happened. Nothing.

Nothing, because that was a reality, and acknowledging reality on the ground is smarter than pretending reality away. Similarly, the conventional wisdom said that any move to acknowledge territorial sovereignty by Israel in disputed areas, like, for example, the Golan Heights, would end with further war. Wrong. Not only is that untrue, it is the reverse. When Israel has been able to defend territory, the world gets more peaceful, not less.

The world will be more peaceful because Israel is currently occupying the other side of Mount Hermon in Syria rather than, for example, HTS or Al-Qaeda. Other conventional wisdom. What the Palestinians really want is peace and a thriving democracy. There is zero evidence adduced to this idea. None.

In fact, every single piece of evidence is precisely the contrary. The Palestinians, by every piece of polling data ever done, do not, in fact, support a thriving democracy. They do not, in fact, support a quote-unquote two-state solution. They do not support peace with Israel. In fact, their entire raison d'etre, the entire reason for the establishment of a Palestinian people, which was an agglomeration of a variety of people from different areas who over time accreted in British mandate Palestine largely because of the upward economic trajectory created by Jews who'd been moving in.

The entire raison d'etre was the disestablishment of a possible Jewish state there. So to give up that aspiration...

would be to recognize the thing that is unrecognizable for the vast majority of Palestinians. There is yet to be a single poll ever, ever showing that Palestinians favor a two-state solution with Israel and the Palestinians living side by side. Yet the conventional wisdom likes to pretend that's not the case and then bang their head consistently against a wall and then yell at the Israelis for being so intransigent about not wanting to exterminate themselves.

Donald Trump does not accept that conventional wisdom. He recognizes that Israel is not going away. Other conventional wisdom that the Palestinians must never be allowed to leave a rubble strewn war torn area, even if they want to, because somehow it facilitates peace to keep would be refugees in an unlivable situation for a decade.

With no infrastructure, with no jobs, with no economy other than the trash foreign aid that has been used historically by terrorist groups to build terror tunnels and stock up on weaponry. That was the conventional wisdom. The conventional wisdom is that the best plan in the Gaza Strip was to pour billions of dollars into Hamas to facilitate humanitarian aid, which went directly to building terror tunnels. The only infrastructure built there, the only infrastructure that has been built there over the course of the last 15 years.

And somehow the conventional wisdom was give it more money, more air. Make sure that there are more. Why do you think Egypt shut the border? Why do you think the Rafah crossing is closed? That is not because of the Jews. That is because of the Egyptians. Finally, the conventional wisdom says that you cannot facilitate population movement in this area. And I just have a question. Why is this the only area on Earth where even if people want to leave, you can't facilitate the population movement?

Israel not only facilitated the population movement of Jews out of Gaza, it forced people who didn't want to leave out of Gaza in 2005, literally took cities filled with 8,000 Jews and removed them forcibly with Israeli soldiers. It turns out that according to the conventional wisdom, the only people who can be forcibly removed from a particular area in this particular area are Jews. And the people who certainly cannot be moved under any circumstances are Palestinians living

between the Jordan River and the Mediterranean Sea. Those people can't move at all. It doesn't matter if Kuwait kicks them out or Jordan kicks them out or Lebanon kicks them out or Egypt refuses to take them. It doesn't matter whether they live in refugee camps in Syria. None of that makes a difference. It doesn't matter if literally hundreds of thousands or even millions of people are forced out of Syria due to civil conflict. And so they end up in Turkey or even in Europe. That's all fine and dandy. But the minute anybody says that people who even want to leave the Gaza Strip because they don't wish to live in the rubble of Khan Yunus under the thumb of Hamas

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When it comes to the Middle East, one intractable problems are wait for it intractable and they're not going away and simply saying like a mantra two state solution, democracy, living side by side, peace,

doesn't make it magically happen. If you just say it over and over and over, not only does it not happen, it ends up facilitating the opposite because it turns out that terrorist groups and radicalized populations take advantage of your naivete and your stupidity in order to build up their own weaponry so as to do things like October 7th. They make common cause with terror states like Iran. They make common cause with the Houthis and with Hezbollah. They do all of that because they understand Western weakness and Western stupidity.

So failing to recognize intractable problems is dangerous. Recognizing intractable problems and not banging your head against the wall is actually a necessity. Recognizing that reality is how you get to things like the Abraham Accords. Other recognitions of reality. Israel is not going away, nor should it. President Trump understands that. Underlying so much of the discussion over the past several decades has been this idea that if Israel just keeps giving up land and makes itself more and more unsafe, that magically peace will break out.

Again, an idiotic idea. And underlying that is a baseline idea that if Israel disappeared, well, you know, maybe the world would be a better, Israel is not going to disappear. Israel is not going to go away. They're not going to surrender. They're not going to cut off their own heads. And after October 7th, they're certainly not going to allow the creation of a terror state in the heartland of the land that Israel currently is on. That is not a thing that's going to happen. Recognizing that reality is just reality. You can like it. You can not like it. It's just the reality. And Trump plays in the world of reality.

And finally, President Trump understands, again, that the conventional wisdom that all of this is central to the Middle East is wrong and a lie. He recognizes that it turns out Saudi Arabia has its own priorities that don't actually involve the Palestinians. Like, for example, economic development. That is the big priority of Mohammed bin Salman, the crown prince. What he wants more than anything is

is a non-oil-based economy with a future. Because one of the things that's happened that's totally transformed the Middle East over the course of the last couple of decades is the fracking revolution in the United States. The complete revision of global oil dominance by the Middle East

So that actually the United States is a net exporter of LNG, has completely reshaped how the entire globe does energy. And so Mohammed bin Salman, who's sitting on a bunch of oil, is recognizing that technological developments mean that he must move along with the tech or he's going to lose out and his regime becomes unstable. Trump recognizes that. The same thing is true of UAE. The same thing is true, yes, even of Qatar, which is going to be made to come around.

The reality is that people in the Middle East have interests that are completely disconnected and, in fact, antithetical to the interests of the terror state that a state of Palestine would be. So all of this is lead up to Trump's actual proposal, because here's the thing. Everybody's so out of the box. It's so crazy. It's so it's so wild. How could he? Because all of your ideas are stupid and failed.

That is the reason. You wonder how we got here? The answer is we tried it your way, the conventional wisdom way, for 80 years. And not only is it a fail, it is one of the giantest fails in the history of foreign policy fails. That is how you end up with President Trump thinking outside the box. Now, I don't know whether President Trump's vision is going to come to fruition here. I don't know whether it's an opening gambit in a broader negotiation.

And we'll get to all of that. What I do know is that all of the same conventional wisdom morons who said that the Abraham Accords would never happen were wrong. All those same conventional wisdom morons who said moving the Jerusalem embassy would set the entire Middle East on fire were wrong and stupid. All the same conventional wisdom dolts who suggested that pressuring Israel in the middle of a war was somehow going to result in more peace rather than more war. They were wrong and stupid. So let the man cook.

Let the he did it better than you. He did it better than you. And he's doing it better than you. OK, so that brings us to the actual proposal. So President Trump yesterday did a press conference at this press conference. He made the announcement that the United States would take over the Gaza Strip. Now, I don't know what this looks like in practicality. And President Trump didn't spell out any details. But the vision is basically that the United States, presumably getting security help from the Israelis, private contractors and all of the rest,

would essentially turn this into an investment area because it's border territory with the Med. The Mediterranean Sea is right there. This is all the same coastline as Tel Aviv. And so here's President Trump explaining his plan.

I also strongly believe that the Gaza Strip, which has been a symbol of death and destruction for so many decades and so bad for the people anywhere near it, and especially those who live there, and frankly, who's been really very unlucky. It's been very unlucky. It's been an unlucky place for a long time. Being in its presence just has not been good, and it should not go through a process of rebuilding and occupation by the same people that have

really stood there and fought for it and lived there and died there and lived a miserable existence there. Instead, we should go to other countries of interest with humanitarian hearts, and there are many of them that want to do this, and build various domains that will ultimately be occupied by the 1.8 million Palestinians living in Gaza, ending the death and destruction and, frankly, bad luck

This can be paid for by neighboring countries of great wealth. It could be 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12. It could be numerous sites or it could be one large site. But the people will be able to live in comfort and peace and we'll make sure something really spectacular is done. They're going to have peace. They're not going to be

shot at and killed and destroyed like this civilization of wonderful people has had to endure. The only reason the Palestinians want to go back to Gaza is they have no alternative. It's right now a demolition site. This is just a demolition site. Virtually every building is down. They're living under fallen concrete that's very dangerous and very precarious.

They instead can occupy all of a beautiful area with homes and safety and they can live out their lives in peace and harmony instead of having to go back and do it again

The U.S. will take over the Gaza Strip and we will do a job with it too. We'll own it and be responsible for dismantling all of the dangerous unexploded bombs and other weapons on the site, level the site and get rid of the destroyed buildings, level it out, create an economic development that will supply

Unlimited numbers of jobs and housing for the people of the area. Do a real job. Do something different. Just can't go back. If you go back, it's going to end up the same way it has for 100 years. I'm hopeful that this ceasefire could be the beginning of a larger and more enduring peace that will end the bloodshed and killing once and for all. So everybody who is against this, I have a question. What is your alternative?

Seriously, I'd love to hear it. Alternatives, anyone? Maybe the alternative that will be put forward by the Arab states is, okay, we don't want this. So now we're going to go in and we'll volunteer to clean it up. In which case, President Trump gets a win.

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And guess what? You know, this bizarre idea that people need to be trapped in this zone. There's polling data, by the way, showing that a huge percentage of Palestinians, if they could get out, would want to. Here is President Trump saying, listen, population movement is the constant of human history. There is no right to live in a terror hellhole, backing Hamas, building terror tunnels and basically driving millions of people into despair, poverty and death. There's no there's no right to that.

And if people want to live there, they can live there. And if they don't want to live there, they can't live there. But there's going to be a rebuilding time. So let's get real about this. Caitlin Collins was very upset about this because, again, conventional wisdom is you have to keep millions of people suffering in an area dominated by terrorism so that what a terror state can be built and threaten its neighbors. Here's President Trump saying, no, I have a different idea.

Just to follow up on what you were saying about the Gazans leaving Gaza and going to other countries. One, where exactly are you suggesting that they should go? And two, are you saying they should return after it's rebuilt? And if not, who do you envision living there? I envision the world, people living there, the world's people. I think you'll make that into an international, unbelievable place. I think the potential in the Gaza Strip is unbelievable.

And I think the entire world, representatives from all over the world will be there and they'll live there. Palestinians also. Palestinians will live there. Many people will live there. But they've tried the other and they've tried it for decades and decades and decades. It's not going to work. It didn't work. It will never work. And you have to learn from history. History has, you know, just can't let it keep repeating itself. We have an opportunity to do something that could be

phenomenal. And I don't want to be cute. I don't want to be a wise guy. But the Riviera of the Middle East, this could be something that could be so bad. Where do those people go in the meantime, Mr. President? But more importantly than that is the people that have been

absolutely destroyed that live there now can live in peace in a much better situation because they're living in hell and those people will now be able to live in peace. We'll make sure that it's done world class. It'll be wonderful for the people. Palestinians, Palestinians, mostly we're talking about.

And I have a feeling that despite them saying no, I have a feeling that the king in Jordan and that the general president, but that the general in Egypt will open their hearts and will give us the kind of land that we need to get this done. And people can live in harmony and peace. Again, what is your alternative? You got one? Let's hear it. President Trump was asked about resettling 1.7 million people. And here was his answer.

How many people are you thinking about? All of them. I mean, we're talking about probably a million seven people, a million seven, maybe a million eight. But I think all of them, I think they'll be resettled in areas where they can live a beautiful life and not be worried about dying every day. OK, now I have a question. Is it more humanitarian to keep people in rubble?

Is that the humanitarian thing to do? To keep them in rubble and poverty with no workable economy? Because guess what? Israel is not allowing work visas from the Gaza Strip. That is not a thing that is going to happen under current situations or any time in the future so long as the status quo ante is returned to. So what exactly is the alternative plan? All the people who are, oh my God, let them cook. Let them cook. President Trump says, listen, we'll make it nice for people to live elsewhere. Why would they want to live in hell? Exactly.

Would Palestinians have the right to return to Gaza if they left while the rebuilding was happening? It would be my hope that we could do something really nice, really good, where they wouldn't want to return. Why would they want to return? The place has been hell.

It's been one of the meanest, one of the meanest, toughest places on Earth. If we can build something for them in one of the countries, and it could be Jordan, it could be Egypt, it could be other countries, and you could build four or five or six areas. It doesn't have to be one area. But you take certain areas and you build really good quality housing, like a beautiful town, like someplace where they can live and not die.

Okay, again, the question would be the alternative. What is the conventional wisdom has been tried for 80 years, gang? And guess what? It has ended in nothing but death, despair, war, terrorism, the training of young kids to become future terrorists. That's what it has ended in. Okay, so President Trump says, you know, what's the United States' role in all this? Why is he a long-term ownership position is what President Trump has to say. Now, again,

There are a lot of details that have to be filled in. There has to be a plan that's filled in. And again, this could be a negotiating gambit in order to get the Arab states to actually say, we don't want what Trump is talking about. So we are going to get involved in the rebuilding and guarantee the security of the Gaza Strip. This could be a lot of different things. What it isn't is the conventional things that have already been tried and have failed 100,000 times over the course of the years.

I saw a tweet last night from one of these conventional wisdom fools saying, well, why don't we just say that the people in Gaza get to stay in Gaza and live side by side in peace with the Israelis? Oh, I don't know. Maybe reality intervened. Maybe reality should at some point clock people in the head. It turns out it clocked the Israelis in the head on October 7th. And here is President Trump talking about his plans.

You are talking tonight about the United States taking over a sovereign territory. What authority would allow you to do that? Are you talking about a permanent occupation there?

redevelopment and Mr. Prime Minister do you see this idea as a way to expand the boundaries of Israel and to have a longer peace even though the Israeli people know how important that land is to you and your citizens just as the space is inherited by the Palestinians as well? I do see a long-term

ownership position and I see it bringing great stability to that part of the Middle East and maybe the entire Middle East. And everybody I've spoken to, this was not a decision made lightly, everybody I've spoken to loves the idea of the United States

owning that piece of land, developing and creating thousands of jobs with something that will be magnificent in a really magnificent area that nobody would know. Nobody can look because all they see is death and destruction and rubble and demolished buildings falling all over. It's just a terrible sight. I've studied this very closely over decades.

a lot of months and I've seen it from every different angle and it's a very very dangerous place to be and it's only going to get worse and I think this is an idea that's gotten tremendous and I'm talking about from the highest level of leadership gotten tremendous praise and if the United States can help to bring stability and peace in the Middle East we'll do that. Bibi? I mentioned again tonight

Our three goals. And the third goal is to make sure that Gaza never poses a threat to Israel again. President Trump is taking it to a much higher level. He sees a different future for that piece of land that has been the focus of so much terrorism, so many attacks against us, so many trials and so many tribulations. He has a different idea.

And I think it's worth paying attention to this. We're talking about it. He's exploring it with his people, with his staff. I think it's something that could change history. And it's worthwhile really pursuing this avenue. Again, it is hilarious to me that Trump says, I want to turn this area into a thriving center of commerce. I'm turning to a Riviera on the Middle East and people are saying, how could you be so cruel to the Palestinians?

Your alternatives, please. Your conventional wisdom has failed. I'm just going to say it over and over and over because it's true. It's true. You keep saying the same thing over and over and over like a fool or a madman, and then nothing changes. The place keeps being a terror-ridden hellhole, and your response to the possible changing of that area into something that could actually be good is that you're upset about it in some way.

That's your first response? I have a feeling that maybe you might have a slightly different agenda. President Trump made some other announcements at this press conference. He announced that the United States would be ending its support for the awful and evil UN Human Rights Council and the UN Refugee Works Agency, which is a corrupt tool of Hamas. I ended the last administration's de facto arms embargo.

on over $1 billion in military assistance for Israel. And I'm also pleased to announce that this afternoon the United States withdrew from the anti-Semitic UN Human Rights Council and ended all of the support for the UN Relief and Works Agency, which funneled money to Hamas and which was very disloyal to humanity.

Today, I also took action to restore a maximum pressure policy on the Iranian regime. And we will once again enforce the most aggressive possible sanctions, drive Iranian oil exports to zero and diminish the regime's capacity to fund terror throughout the region and throughout the world. And so again,

This is this is correct. The conventional wisdom that you have to keep funding evil institutions to do evil things with American taxpayer dollars is pretty incredible. President Trump also had some comments about getting the rest of the hostages out. And he said, listen, Hamas should move on to a phase two here because what's going to come if they don't is not going to be pleasant. We're working very hard to get all the hostages that word is all. And we're working very hard so far. It's been.

Moving along fairly rapidly, pretty much on schedule. I'd love to have them all out at one time, but we're taking them out. And tomorrow, more are being released, and over the days, more. And then we're going to a phase two. But we'd like to get all of the hostages. And if we don't, it will just make us somewhat more violent, I will tell you that, because they would have broken their word.

And the meeting between President Trump and Netanyahu and the entire team was, of course, very warm. President Trump shouted out other members of his administration in the middle of this press conference, pointing out the solidity of his administration in pursuit of these new ideas. J.D. Vance, everybody. J.D., please, Vice President, stand up. He's been doing a good job. He's been working very hard on all things, but this in particular.

OK, perhaps the funniest moment came when President Trump was asked at this press conference a question by a female Afghani reporter who apparently wanted him to recognize the Taliban or something. And it didn't go amazing for her.

I have a little hard time understanding you. Where are you from? Afghanistan. I'm from Afghanistan.

Actually, it's a beautiful voice and a beautiful accent. The only problem is I can't understand a word you're saying. But I just say this. Good luck. Live in peace. Go ahead, please. I'm sorry. He's a funny man. He's a very, very funny man. Well, let's say we'll get to President Trump's Iran policy, which he also announced yesterday. And it is a return to the maximum.

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Go to dailywire.com slash subscribe now and join the fight. Meanwhile, President Trump did announce yesterday an executive order cracking down on Iran. He has said he doesn't want war with Iran. He's not interested in a military strike if one can be avoided. But he's putting significant pressure on Iran, maximum pressure on the government of Iran to deny all of their path to a nuclear weapon.

And President Trump was asked in the Oval Office while signing this executive order, Mr. President, there's a lot of talk about Iran trying to assassinate you. What would happen if that happened? If it's Iran and their proxies who threaten to retaliate against you and your team by killing you guys or taking out a whole line. Well, they haven't done that. And that would be a terrible thing for them to do. Not because of me. If they did that, they would be obliterated. That would be the end. I've left instructions

If they do it, they get obliterated. There won't be anything left. According to this brand new executive order from the White House, the Iranian government, including the IRGC, is using agents and cyber-enabled means to target United States nationals living in the United States and other countries around the world for attacks, including assault, kidnapping, and murder. Iran has also directed its proxy groups, including Hezbollah's Islamic Jihad Organization,

to embed sleeper cells in the homeland to be activated in support of this terrorist activity. Iran bears responsibility for the horrific Hamas massacres committed on October 7th, 2023, and bears responsibility for continued Houthi attacks against the United States Navy, Allied Navies, and international commercial shipping in the Red Sea. Since April 2024, the regime has twice demonstrated its willingness to launch ballistic and cruise missile attacks against the state of Israel. Iran commits grievous human rights abuses and arbitrarily detains foreigners, including U.S. citizens,

on spurious charges without due process of law, subjecting them to abuse. The United States stands with the women of Iran who face daily abuse by the regime. Iran's nuclear program, including its enrichment and reprocessing related capabilities and nuclear-capable missiles, poses an existential danger to the United States and the entire civilized world. It is therefore in the national interest to impose maximum pressure on the Iranian regime to end its nuclear threat, curtail its ballistic missile program, and stop its support for terrorist groups. So maximum pressure is back on the Iranian regime.

Now, at this point, I'd like to point out President Trump is no one's tool. There are a lot of people out there, many of them don't like Israel, many of them don't like Jews, who seem to think that President Trump is a mirror of their ideology. There are isolationists who like to think that. There are interventionists who like to think that. There are a lot of people who like to think that President Trump is simply an avatar for their particular philosophy. As I've said many, many times, President Trump is an avatar of no one's philosophy.

President Trump does not have a thoroughgoing ideology. President Trump is about winning. He's about utilitarian wins. That is what he does. And that means he's going to do things that many people don't like. From time to time, as you've noticed, he does things that I don't like. But the reality is that it's his outside-the-box thinking that makes things possible. It makes things possible. So I don't know where this proposal is going to go. You don't know either. It could be a negotiating tactic. It could be the opening of a bargaining session with the Saudis.

It could be an attempt to put pressure on the Iranians. It could be an attempt to get the hostages out. Or it could be face value, an attempt to actually do something extraordinary with a hellhole that has been turned into a hellhole by the population that decided to elect Hamas and the Hamas government that decided to turn it into a terrorist haven. Maybe it's that. We don't know yet. But bottom line, as I said right at the top, let Donald J. Trump cook.

Meanwhile, your quick update on President Trump's nominees. They are getting through at a staggering rate. Pam Bondi is your new attorney general. She was, in fact, confirmed yesterday. Meanwhile, RFK Jr. has been moved out of committee. There was a lot of question about whether he was going to make it out of committee for Health and Human Services Secretary.

But last minute lobbying from the White House has put him on a glide path to his actual job as the head of HHS. Meanwhile, Tulsi Gabbard also made it through committee with help from Senator Tom Cotton, who, of course, is quite hawkish on the Senate Intelligence Committee. So it looks as though President Trump is going to get his cabinet. The three candidates who are the most likely to go down were Gabbard,

R.F.K. Jr. and Kash Patel, all three look like they are on a glide path to confirmation. All the betting markets suggest they will be confirmed. And of course, Pam Bonney was confirmed yesterday. So all the people on the right who wanted Trump to get his cabinet, he's going to get his cabinet. Now, speaking of the president and cooking, the president is set to issue an executive order today barring trans girls and women from a female school sports. What does that mean? The actual real headline there is men don't get to play with the girls, which I mean, that used to be common sensical.

The order is titled Keeping Men Out of Women's Sports. It's to be signed Wednesday afternoon. It's not exactly clear what the order would entail, but one option is to direct the education department to interpret Title IX rules as barring the participation of trans girls and women in female sports categories, which of course makes perfect sense since Title IX was designed to protect actual biological women. It was not designed, in fact, to protect men who believe that they are women.

The NCAA has already indicated it will move rapidly to change its rules to comply with federal law.

So the thoroughgoing defeat of the trans agenda is extraordinary. It's extraordinary. And I've talked to you on the show about this. No company did more to help facilitate that defeat than The Daily Wire. We've been standing against this nonsense since literally the first day the company was founded. It was a standing rule at this company that we would never in any material ever refer to people by anything like quote unquote preferred pronouns. People would be referred to by what pronouns have always meant. Their actual objective sex.

At this company, we have stood strong against a wide variety of crackdowns by big tech, by advertisers who have attempted to target us multiple times on the basis of our unwillingness to lie and say that men can be women and women can be men. And President Trump is doing the right thing there, as he did a couple of weeks ago in fighting, quote unquote, gender affirming youth for young people. So this is being ranted against by people like Cynthia Nixon. Cynthia Nixon, she of Sex and the City, you know, the one that nobody liked, Miranda.

Well, she ran for governor. Nobody liked her there either. And now she is claiming that hospitals must be allowed to cut the breasts of healthy young women and to cut the penises of healthy young men and to shoot kids full of hormones because every kid she knows is trans. Now, this, of course, is insane. It is insane because it is very clear that this is a social contagion. Why is it that transgender people,

identification seems to run real strong among wildly left blue Hollywood types. Why? Why are half the kids in Hollywood trans? Is that just because of a weird genetic anomaly that is only located in the bluest of areas with a high percentage of LGBT parents? Is that the only just magical genetic anomaly

in these particular areas, or is it a social contagion? Here's Cynthia Nixon refusing to acknowledge the truth that is right in front of her eyes here. Importantly, I am here today as the mother of a proud trans man. The aunt of a proud trans man. My best friend's kid is trans. And my kid's best friend is trans. Woo!

My wife and I, our lives are filled with the most amazing, beautiful, brave trans people, young and old, but especially young. My trans kid had his top surgery at NYU a number of years ago.

His doctors were fantastic. His surgeon was the best we could have imagined. And the idea that the city is filled with young people who thought they had a place to go where they could receive the highest care, and that place has now been shut to them, sickens me. So everyone she knows is trans, everyone. Her kid, her nephew, her niece, all their friends.

They had their breast tissue cut out at these places. Here's the thing. She's going to refuse to see the truth because the barbarity of what she's actually done to her own child is so obvious and clear. But this wild social contagion is over. This lie is over. It is done.

It is finished. People are no longer going to go along with this nonsense and kudos to President Trump again on doing the right thing. Meanwhile, it is hilarious to watch Democrats respond to the massive changes that are now being effectuated by the Trump administration. The federal government is now being told that if you don't quit, some of you can get fired.

According to The Washington Post, a supervisor in a government agency now run by allies of Elon Musk told staff earlier this week layoffs across the federal government are likely after Thursday's deadline to accept the deferred resignation offer, according to an email obtained by The Washington Post, a step toward forcibly removing many of the 2.3 million civilian federal employees.

Well, yes, if you won't quit, then some of you will undoubtedly go. The CIA, too, has been offering sweeping buyouts to the entire workforce. Again, the idea here isn't to clear out the entire CIA. It's to say if you don't want to work for President Trump and do his priorities, since he's the head of the executive branch, well, don't let the door hit you where the good Lord split you. Have at it. We'll see you later. You can take a payout.

The goal is not to clean out the entire CIA. You still need CIA officers. The goal is to clear out the people who don't want to do the thing the CIA was actually designed to do, namely target our enemies abroad using the intelligence apparatus rather than people at home using the intelligence apparatus. Now, hilariously, the Democrats are losing their minds over all of this. So Hakeem Jeffries, the not speaker of the House, the House minority leader, he's very angry. He says, I can't believe they're raiding the federal government. They're raiding the federal. OK, Babylon beat a great headline yesterday.

They said it was a picture of President Trump said first fascist in history to cut size of government. Yep. Here's Hakeem Jeffries trying to do the routine. They've done nothing as it relates to lowering the high cost of living. At the same time, they are raiding the government, attempting to steal taxpayer money. That's what the situation at the Treasury Department is all about. We will introduce the Stop the Steal Act in short order.

to prevent unlawful access with respect to the Department of Treasury's payment system connected to people who are trying to steal personal, sensitive, and confidential information.

This is ridiculous. So you're worried about the spread of confidentiality. That's your big complaint? My favorite line yesterday was from Chuck Schumer, who should never be allowed in front of a microphone again. Chuck Schumer, the Senate minority leader. He says, Elon Musk is coming in here. He's trying to run this place like a tech startup. This isn't a tech startup. This is the federal government. Tech startups are where people make billions of dollars off of innovation. The federal government is where we waste all those billions of dollars on stupid bullshit. Here's Chuck Schumer. The American people will not stand...

for an unelected secret group to run rampant through the executive branch. Being innovative is good, but Mr. Musk, this isn't a tech startup. These are public institutions that deal with things like Social Security and Medicare and national defense and provide for the well-being of the American people. And the American people have a right to be part of that debate.

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Is perhaps the dumbest member of Congress. I mean, truly a stupid human being who's trotted out only because she was basically cast in Hollywood. And Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez went to Instagram, which is where she truly wants to be a star, not in Congress, to call Elon Musk stupid, which is legitimately like finding a 900 pound man who has grown into his couch, criticizing the V shred guys for their standards of fitness. I'm sorry, this is,

specimen of mental incapacity is going to criticize the man who built SpaceX and Tesla and was an original PayPal investor. She's going to criticize and call him stupid. What now? Okay, here we go.

He is not smart.

He's not smart. Every 19 year old he's bringing in is like a world-class caliber coder. One of them, a 19 year old kid used actual AI technology to decrypt a piece of like Greek writing. That's 2000 years old. And nobody been able to actually make out the writing. Those are the people that Alexander Ocasio-Cortez is criticizing.

This complete numbskull. Good luck with this particular. Meanwhile, Jasmine Crockett, another one of the Democratic Party luminaries, and she went on CNN where she complained about how tired she was of white tears. Oh, goodness gracious.

I am tired of the white tears. Listen, if you are competent, you are not concerned. When I walk into Congress every single day, you know why I don't feel a way and why you can't make me doubt who I am? It's because I know that I had to work 10 times as hard as they did just to get into the seat. When you look and you compare me to Marjorie Taylor Greene or me to Lauren Boebert, there is no comparison. And that is the life that we have always lived. So the only

people that are crying are the mediocre white boys that have been beaten out by people that historically have had to work so so much harder um she's had to work so much harder truly there's no comparison between her and marjorie taylor green or lauren bulbert uh okay all righty then meanwhile ilhan omar

was caught on tape at some sort of seminar recently, telling people, giving advice to Somalis who are in the United States illegally on their legal rights in helping to avoid deportation. So much pro-America happening, so much.

She's speaking Somali. She says, I advise the Somalian people that if ICE attempts to question you, they're not obligated to answer their questions. To state that you were advised by a lawyer not to answer questions.

Disclosure of your name, immigration status, mode of entry is not mandatory. Learn the laws and prepare yourself, she says, about illegal immigrants. And refrain from disclosing information you would prefer them not to know.

Well, maybe she'll be nice and offer these illegal immigrants a fake marriage so that they too can become citizens of the United States under false pretenses. And meanwhile, nature is healing. It turns out that all it took to get the recruitment crisis pretty much done over at Department of Defense was it not being headed by a bunch of political generals who were worried about white rage.

So Pete Hegseth took over and it turns out the recruitment has skyrocketed. And in fact, recruitment has been skyrocketing ever since President Trump won. According to Secretary of Defense Hegseth, in December 2024, the U.S. Army had its best recruiting number in 12 years. In January 2025, the Army had its best recruiting number in 15 years. Bottom line, America's youth want to serve under the bold and strong America First leadership of Donald Trump. And then he tweeted out a new U.S. Army ad. And guess what? The Army ad is about

members of the military kicking ass and taking names and not about exploring their LGBTQ identities and the possibility of free hormone treatment. And now people want to join the army. It's crazy. It's almost like when you tell people what the army is and what it's supposed to do, people might want to do that thing. Crazy towns. Here's the ad. These are guys who are firing mortars and then you see them fighting. Some doing sit-ups, tanks, guns, people climbing walls, bazookas, grenades,

Night crawling, firing from tanks. Wait, you mean like when we show people what the army does, young men might want to join the army? As opposed to when we tell them that they can read Genderqueer and maybe do a book analysis of Ibram X. Kendi? They don't want to join? I mean, wow, it turns out that was so difficult. It was so difficult. Alrighty. Well, folks.

Thank you.

Guys, I mean, I hate to break to you the news of the executive order today that President Trump is putting forth, suggesting that Title IX will no longer apply to men who want to play with the women. I know that's the entire premise of Lady Ballers. So, Jake...

Explain your feelings on learning that your hopes and dreams have been dashed by the President of the United States. Well, Ben, first off, thanks for having us, even though it's under these circumstances. It took a lot of personal reflection when I heard about this, sitting in my house, looking outside, wondering what's next, when you dream so much about being able to take over women's sports as a biological man. But then it hit me, and I came to the realization that

At the end of the day, it's something that had to happen. But I think the saddest part is that it needed to happen, is that we've gotten to a point

In society where somebody, a president with this type of power, had to sign an executive order to keep men out of women's sports, even though my dreams are dashed, man. And it hurts. I've come to the realization that I think the saddest part is we actually had to do this because this is actually a real thing that exists in society. So I'm willing to put my dreams on hold. I've got a couple other ideas. I've started playing chess, doing origami, even took it up. So it's we'll see where it ends up.

So, Blaine, obviously, it's a blow to you as well, especially since you were actually wrestling the ladies in Lady Ballers. And it seemed like you were on a smooth glide path to a gold medal at the Olympics, actually, until this moment happened. So your feelings today? Well, you know, I never thought Donald Trump would come after my career. And we're seeing this now. And to make it even worse, I mean, here in Nashville, they just had a women's basketball team that's going to be coming here. So now they're just throwing it in my face. Ben, I will find every way.

every way I can to keep this dream alive and sir I hope you're in my corner

Well, well, David Cohen, who actually did play college sports and was nearly the starting quarterback of a major team. David, what do you make of this moment? Obviously, it's a it's a it actually is pretty incredible that we actually had to come to the point as a country where seriously speaking, where we we had to somehow tell colleges that it was wrong to allow biological men to compete with the ladies. What do you make of it?

Nearly the quarterback, but I at least am grateful that we were able to make the global games before this move was initiated because that's still one of the highlights of my life, being able to lose the championship to a team called the Cowgirls. But good on President Trump for making this move, for keeping his word on this issue. This is what I call a 99% issue. 99% of the American public knows that men shouldn't be competing in women's sports or changing in their locker rooms or women's

Women and men's sports, for that matter, that's a side of this we don't talk about too often. But 99% knows that, but they were silenced by a powerful 1% minority with corporations and with politicians, Hollywood celebrities. And so while this is a huge political move, this is even a bigger crisis.

cultural move. And you say all the time that culture is down or politics is downstream of culture. And this is going to give people their voices back to be able to speak out, because I think when people speak out, it's the best way for this history to keep from repeating itself.

So while I have you guys here, because our get-togethers are rare, I do have to ask you about this Lakers-Mavericks trade. Because, I mean, honestly, it was probably the biggest story of the weekend. A lot happened over the weekend, including the possibility of the United States taking over the Gaza Strip. But I think the biggest story of the weekend was Luka Doncic

to the Los Angeles Lakers. So Jake, on a scale of rigged to WWE, how rigged is the NBA that this trade happened to allow a 25-year-old superstar coming off a near MVP season to go to the Los Angeles Lakers, who it seems every generation get a generational talent just by coincidence through some sort of wildly unfair trade?

Yeah, I mean, I don't even want to disrespect the WWE. This is more a bunch of guys back where I'm from deciding to put a platform up and do a wrestling show for the neighborhood fake. The NBA is drowning in its stupidity. You look at the ratings, it's never been more unpopular. And to have to pull off a move like this, it's blatantly obvious. I've seen sports media people out there try and make it sound like the Mavericks. They were doing this because they didn't trust Luka and his availability, and it's a long-term play.

Well, you know, if you're going to go on a diet and stop eating Butterfingers, I don't think you just start eating Snickers. And by getting Anthony Davis, it totally ruins that theory. It's an absolute rigged job. And at the end of the day, the NBA is having to grasp its straws to survive. But Ben...

We're going to talk about this for a couple more weeks. And then they're going to have to do something even bigger. See, that's the thing with wrestling. You have to keep doing bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger things to surprise people and shock people. And they're going to run out of stuff. I mean, LeBron's letting his kid play in the NBA, and he's half the player that I am, and I'm 6'1". He just made his first three, though. Yeah, he made his first three. Congrats. That's one more than me.

I did see that, actually, that he made his first three the other night, which, again, I feel like if you put me in an NBA game for as many minutes as he's been in, I would have a shot just by chucking the ball at some point down the court. I've seen you play, too.

I know you could make a three, and that's the real question is how many more Hall of Fame players does LeBron James need to team up with before he can actually try and chase down Michael Jordan? But everyone wants to criticize, like my co-host over here, Blaine, wants to criticize, oh, well, Michael Jordan played with Scottie Pippen while LeBron's over here playing with every single Hall of Fame player of his generation. Do you want to walk down this path right now? I didn't intend to. Ben brought it up. But, yeah, Michael Jordan's the greatest basketball player of all time. Michael Jordan won nothing without Scottie Pippen.

See, you still have to deal with every day. I apologize to you that this happened on your show. Facts are facts. I mean, you can make up whatever illusion you want to in your head, but Michael Jordan won nothing without Scottie Pippen. Who's that Hall of Famer in Dallas? Send him over here. Maybe I can win another one. Your fault, Ben. As an older brother, I have failed you. Oh, man.

Well, guys, if you want to listen to 90 minutes of that, then go check out Crane and Company, our own sports show. And guys, again, your legacy in women's sports will live on forever in Lady Ballers, which is available over at Daily Wire. Plus, appreciate the time. Ben, thanks, buddy. And yeah, we're going to make it. We're going to try, but we're going to make it. We will win.

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