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Ben Shapiro: 我认为美国仍然具有核心竞争力,只要你努力工作,有毅力,就能取得成功。 我认为Charlie Kirk将会成为共和党全国委员会的主席,并且他实际上建立了自己的共和党全国委员会。 我被Charlie Kirk在特朗普总统胜选之夜的激动情绪所感动,因为他为之付出了巨大的努力。 我想知道Charlie Kirk是如何建立起帮助特朗普总统连任的强大机器的。 我想知道这些支持特朗普总统的低投票意愿选民是否会在未来的选举中再次投票。 我认为特朗普总统将以一种强烈的决心来执政。 我认为我们正在经历一场“普通人革命”。 J.D. Vance是一个非常正常的人。 特朗普总统代表着一种正常。 特朗普总统的议程实际上是回归常态。 特朗普总统实际上是一个温和的极端主义者。 民主党人选择关注特朗普总统立场的极端部分。 特朗普总统的立场在大多数问题上都是比较温和的。 美国边境实际上是敞开的。 人们对开放边境的反应是希望关闭边境。 特朗普总统的议程是回归西方的基本道德观。 特朗普总统的议程实际上是最明智的政治议程。 特朗普总统是一个男性化的政治人物,这与当今女性化的文化形成对比。 特朗普总统与其他政治人物形成鲜明对比。 Charlie Kirk: 我创立了TPUSA,并经历了一段非凡的旅程。 我们始终支持特朗普总统,并在总统大选中发挥了重要作用,尽管当时的胜算并不大。 我们在关键战场州雇佣了1500名全职人员,并通过改变选民构成来帮助特朗普总统赢得选举。 在高投票率的选举中,我们可以改变选民构成,使其更倾向于特朗普总统。 我们建立了一个被媒体低估甚至诽谤的投票动员力量。 我们的投票动员工作取得了成功,因为我们与那些已经喜欢特朗普总统的人进行了沟通。 我们证明了右翼也可以建立像奥巴马那样的投票动员机器,并且可以改变选民构成。 我们受益于特朗普总统的影响力,这使得我们的投票动员工作更容易开展。 我们在亚利桑那州的一次活动中注册了900名首次投票的特朗普支持者。 我们的理论是有效的,并且我们主导了社交媒体。 特朗普竞选团队在像乔·罗根和西奥·沃恩这样的播客节目中露面,有效地接触到了低投票意愿的选民。 我们在亚利桑那州和威斯康星州帮助收集了大量的选票。 我是一个企业家,我创立Turning Point USA是为了更好地参与文化和政治。 我讨厌失败,并且我认为我们需要更好地参与文化和政治。 特朗普总统创造了一种环境,使得政治和文化难以区分。 Turning Point USA是一个文化转型机器。 Turning Point USA已经发展壮大,拥有40万捐赠者和数十万学生。 Turning Point USA是右翼最重要的组织之一。 我从未想过我的生活会变成这样。 我认为美国仍然具有核心竞争力,只要你努力工作,有毅力,就能取得成功。 我从未想过我的生活会变成这样。 我与特朗普总统建立了良好的关系,他信任我们。 我们希望共和党能够像其选民一样保守。 我们希望特朗普总统能够组建一个合适的内阁,并赢得参议员的信任。 我们希望共和党能够与选民保持一致,并长期投资于基础设施建设。 我认为美国将进入一个黄金时代,经济将增长,边境将得到保障。 我们希望将民主党变成一个少数党。 特朗普总统是一个务实主义者,他只关心胜利。 特朗普总统将采取能够为国家带来胜利的政策。 特朗普总统将履行他在竞选期间做出的承诺。 特朗普总统直言不讳,这可能会让人感到困惑。 特朗普总统将履行他在竞选期间做出的承诺。 特朗普总统最关心的是国家的成功和繁荣。 我认为特朗普总统的四年“流亡”对我们来说是有益的。 我认为马特·沃尔什在变性问题上的立场对我们赢得选举至关重要。 特朗普竞选团队在变性问题上的广告非常成功。 该广告之所以成功,是因为它揭示了民主党人的激进立场。 特朗普总统在变性问题上的立场是回归常态。

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What is the core strategy Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA used to help President Trump win the 2024 election?

Charlie Kirk and Turning Point USA focused on turning Trump supporters into voters by targeting low-propensity voters, particularly in key battleground states like Arizona, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. They hired 1,500 full-time staff to engage these voters, emphasizing early voting and leveraging social media to reach those not consuming traditional news. Their strategy aimed to reshape the electorate to be more MAGA-aligned, rural, and working-class, rather than relying solely on swing voters.

Why does Charlie Kirk believe the 2024 election was a turning point for the conservative movement?

Charlie Kirk views the 2024 election as a turning point because it proved that conservatives could build a robust get-out-the-vote machine similar to Obama's 2008 campaign. By successfully mobilizing low-propensity voters who supported Trump, they demonstrated that the right could change the electorate's composition and win high-turnout elections. This success challenges the traditional Republican orthodoxy of focusing solely on swing voters.

What role did Elon Musk play in the 2024 election according to Charlie Kirk?

Elon Musk, alongside Charlie Kirk and others, helped build a voter turnout operation that was initially underestimated and criticized by the media. Their efforts focused on engaging Trump supporters through innovative strategies, including social media outreach and early voting campaigns. Musk's involvement was part of a broader effort to modernize and energize conservative voter mobilization.

What is the significance of the documentary 'Identity Crisis' co-produced by Turning Point USA and The Daily Wire?

'Identity Crisis' is a documentary that delves into the detransitioner movement, exposing the graphic and often brutal realities of gender-affirming surgeries, particularly among minors. It highlights cases of medical kidnapping and parental loss of custody due to transitioning decisions. The film aims to build public and political consensus to ban such practices nationwide, with the hope of influencing the incoming Trump administration to take legal action against gender-affirming care centers.

How does Charlie Kirk describe the cultural and political transformation under President Trump?

Charlie Kirk describes President Trump as a cultural and political force who merged politics and culture, making them almost indistinguishable. Trump's unapologetic, masculine leadership style contrasted sharply with what Kirk calls a 'hyper-toxically feminine culture.' This shift, according to Kirk, re-centered American politics around foundational Western morality, sovereignty, and common sense, challenging the radical left's agenda.

What are Charlie Kirk's goals for the Republican Party moving forward?

Charlie Kirk aims to align the Republican Party more closely with its conservative voter base, ensuring that elected officials from deep red states act in accordance with their constituents' values. He also advocates for long-term infrastructure investments, cultural transformation, and policies that reflect the party's commitment to winning elections and governing effectively. Kirk hopes to make the Democratic Party a minority party for a generation, similar to the Republican Party's position during FDR's era.

Why does Charlie Kirk believe the trans issue was pivotal in the 2024 election?

Charlie Kirk believes the trans issue was pivotal because it highlighted the radicalism of the Democratic agenda, particularly policies like taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries for illegal immigrants. The Trump campaign effectively used this issue to galvanize voters, running ads that exposed the extremism of the left. Kirk credits figures like Matt Walsh for holding the line on this issue, which he believes contributed significantly to Trump's victory.

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Ben Shapiro interviews Charlie Kirk, founder of TPUSA, exploring his journey from an 18-year-old meeting donors to building a significant organization within the conservative movement. They discuss Kirk's role in President Trump's reelection and the strategies employed.
  • Charlie Kirk's rapid rise in the conservative movement
  • His role in President Trump's reelection campaign
  • TPUSA's significant grassroots efforts
  • Kirk's entrepreneurial approach to non-profit work

Shownotes Transcript

Ben Shapiro sits down with Charlie Kirk for an exclusive, one-on-one conversation about Donald Trump’s pivotal election victory—why it’s a monumental win for America and what it means for the country’s future. They’ll also explore Charlie’s origin story, from founding Turning Point USA to becoming a key figure in the conservative movement. Plus, they’ll discuss Identity Crisis, the new documentary from The Daily Wire and Turning Point USA, inspired by the groundbreaking 2022 film What Is a Woman, streaming for FREE for 72 hours on X.

 

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