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Episode 685: Glen Helzer and the Children of Thunder (Part 1)

2025/6/30
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Ash: 我对当前社会政治局势深感担忧,特别是对 ICE 的行为表示强烈反对。我认为 ICE 的某些做法侵犯了人权,并且对社会造成了伤害。我们必须明确表示,我们不赞同这些行为,并且支持所有人的公民权利。我呼吁大家了解自己的权利,积极参与政治行动,为正义而战。同时,我也提醒大家注意安全,互相帮助,共同度过这个艰难的时期。作为社区的一份子,我们有责任照顾彼此,确保每个人都能得到应有的尊重和保护。 Alayna: 我也对当前的世界局势感到不安,特别是对那些受到不公正待遇的人们表示同情。我认为我们应该团结起来,共同抵制那些不公正的政策和行为。我支持和平抗议,并呼吁大家在抗议时保持安全。我们必须记住,我们有权利表达自己的观点,并且应该利用这个权利来改变社会。同时,我也认为我们应该关注社区的安全,互相支持,共同度过这个困难的时期。

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When Ivan and Annette Stineman disappeared from their home in Concord, California in the summer of 2000, it immediately raised red alarmed with those closest to the elderly couple. Those alarms proved to be justified when, a week later, the remains of the Stinemans and three others were discovered in duffel bags in Sacramento River Delta.

The day after the remains were found in river, investigators arrested Taylor and Justin Helzer, and Justin’s girlfriend, Dawn Godman, for the murders of Ivan and Annette Stineman. A short time later, they would also be charged with the murders of Taylor’s girlfriend, Selina Bishop, her mother, Jenny Villarin, and Villarin’s boyfriend, Jim Gamble.

At first, investigators believed the murders were part of a plot to extort the Stinemans for a large amount of money, but the deeper they dug into the lives and backgrounds of the killers, a different and far more bizarre motive began to emerge.

Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research and Writing support!

References

Aguila, Justino. 2000. "Boyfriend probed in homicides." San Francisco Examiner, August 7: 3.

Bulwa, Demian. 2004. "Killer lays out grisly details of murder spree." San Francisco Chronicle, May 28.

Kim, Ryan. 2000. "Double slaying rattles Marin town." San Francisco Examiner, August 4: 16.

Lee, Henry K. 2013. "Justin Helzer hangs himself in prison." San Francisco Chronicle, April 16.

People of the State of California v. Helzer. 2024. S132256 (Supreme Court of California, January 22).

Read, Simon. 2004. "Jury finds Helzer guilty of murder." East Bay Times, June 17.

San Francisco Examiner. 2000. "Delta body parts identified ." San Francisco Examiner, August 9.

—. 2000. "Elvin Bishop's daughter missing." San Francisco Examiner, August 5: 3.

Scott, Robert. 2005. Unholy Sacrifice. New York, NY: Pinnacle Books.

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