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Episode 686: Glen Helzer and the Children of Thunder (Part 2)

2025/7/3
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Ash: 我在节目的第一部分讨论了格伦·泰勒·海尔泽的背景，以及他如何从一个摩门教徒变成了一个邪教领袖。我们讨论了Ivan和Annette Steinman的失踪，以及Jennifer和James在马林县被谋杀的案件。我提到海尔泽曾在摩根士丹利担任财务顾问，这最终成为了他犯罪计划的关键。我描述了Vicki Sexton如何向警方报告了她与一位自称Jackie的顾客的奇怪遭遇，这位顾客试图以欺骗手段从Steinman夫妇的账户中提取资金。我强调了警方在搜查Justin Helzer住所时发现的令人震惊的物品，包括摇头丸、绳索和腿铐。我描述了Taylor如何劫持邻居，以及在萨克拉门托河三角洲发现装有人体残骸的行李袋的可怕场景。我解释了Don和Justin如何开始与警方合作，揭示了海尔泽勒索和谋杀Steinman夫妇的计划。我强调了Selena Bishop是如何被海尔泽欺骗，最终被残忍杀害的。我描述了Jennifer和Jim Gamble是如何无辜地卷入这场阴谋并被杀害的。最后，我解释了Deborah McClanahan如何向警方提供了关键证据，揭示了“雷霆之子”邪教的真实目的，以及海尔泽的疯狂计划，包括推翻摩门教和训练巴西孤儿成为刺客。整个案件充满了令人震惊的细节和悲剧，我感到非常震惊和悲伤。

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The podcast details the mysterious disappearance of Ivan and Annette Steinman from their Concord, California home. Despite the discovery of their abandoned minivan, investigators initially lacked crucial evidence. A public plea for information was made, leading to a crucial encounter.
  • Disappearance of Ivan and Annette Steinman
  • Abandoned minivan found in Oakland
  • Public plea for information

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When Ivan and Annette Stineman disappeared from their home in Concord, California in the summer of 2000, it immediately raised red alarmed with those closest to the elderly couple. Those alarms proved to be justified when, a week later, the remains of the Stinemans and three others were discovered in duffel bags in Sacramento River Delta.

The day after the remains were found in river, investigators arrested Taylor and Justin Helzer, and Justin’s girlfriend, Dawn Godman, for the murders of Ivan and Annette Stineman. A short time later, they would also be charged with the murders of Taylor’s girlfriend, Selina Bishop, her mother, Jenny Villarin, and Villarin’s boyfriend, Jim Gamble.

At first, investigators believed the murders were part of a plot to extort the Stinemans for a large amount of money, but the deeper they dug into the lives and backgrounds of the killers, a different and far more bizarre motive began to emerge.

Thank you to the Incredible Dave White of Bring Me the Axe Podcast for research and Writing support!

References

Aguila, Justino. 2000. "Boyfriend probed in homicides." San Francisco Examiner, August 7: 3.

Bulwa, Demian. 2004. "Killer lays out grisly details of murder spree." San Francisco Chronicle, May 28.

Kim, Ryan. 2000. "Double slaying rattles Marin town." San Francisco Examiner, August 4: 16.

Lee, Henry K. 2013. "Justin Helzer hangs himself in prison." San Francisco Chronicle, April 16.

People of the State of California v. Helzer. 2024. S132256 (Supreme Court of California, January 22).

Read, Simon. 2004. "Jury finds Helzer guilty of murder." East Bay Times, June 17.

San Francisco Examiner. 2000. "Delta body parts identified ." San Francisco Examiner, August 9.

—. 2000. "Elvin Bishop's daughter missing." San Francisco Examiner, August 5: 3.

Scott, Robert. 2005. Unholy Sacrifice. New York, NY: Pinnacle Books.

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