House Speaker Candidates, Mediterranean Migrant Deaths, Pakistani Crackdown
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behind them. This is the first from npr news. More than two and a half thousand people have died this year while crossing the meditation in sea.

The reasons they flee vary, but they all know the journey could be fatal. And p. rs. Roof show lock reports from a search and rescue boat where the crew is trying to stop more death.

And starting next month, pakistan will expelled anyone without proper documentation. That includes an estimated one point seven million afghans migrant. So what's behind this new policy? Say, with us, we've got all the news. You need to start your day.

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The race is on to find a new speaker, the house .

that's right. Following tuesday's historic vote to oust speaker Kevin mcArthur, republicans are scrambling to figure out who can get the votes to replace him. So are there are two declared candidates, house majority leader Steve school lousianner and house judiciary committee .

chairman jim Jordan. P. R, due to walsh is following this. He is joining us now to Jordan, to the more well known G O P. House members, but give us a quick profile of each.

They are both very conservative. Jim Jordan founded the far right's house freedom caucus. He developed a reputation, sort of as an outsider, attacking his own leadership.

But he didn't end up developing a close relationship with speaker a carthy. He's been leading all the investigations into the bad ministration and impeachment. He's also close to former president trump schools is currently the number two leader.

He's well liked by members. He's actually personally gone through a lot. He was shot at the practice of the house baseball, came back in twenty seventeen and almost died.

More recently, he's announced he's being treated for multiple my lama of blood cancer. He says he's feeling Better and he's up to the job. School's ideologically is also considered to the right of mccarthy in terms of how conservative he's considered a third candidate, OK hoa republican Kevin hn, who may run. He has a large group of fiscal conservatives.

right? So more names, i'm sure, might come up between now and next week. But do republicans like their option? So far.

some do a lot won't say it's part of a chAllenge in these leadership races. These are secret ballot elections. There's also a lot of concern about avoiding another messy fight on the house floor.

I'm sure you remember the one back in january, IT took four days and fifteen ballots to elect mccarthy. The other thing is, just in the last seven years, there's been three changes at the top of the top leadership. Latter one house republican member I talk to, Kelly armstrong from north dakota said, this time is not a Normal speaker election. There needs to be to some discussion about getting around these internal divisions.

This has happened three times, fainter, ryan mccarty. And the solution to that problem can be just promote everybody. One step that's not .

in many lawmakers, even before they pick a new speaker next wednesday, want to talk about changing house rules, including the one that was used, get rid of murthy.

Now, contest just passed a bill to avoid a shut down. But into the house is paralyzed right now. The temporary funding runs out november seventeen.

No money for ukraine. Do you draw? How will all that be affected .

with all of this chaos in the house leadership is going to make IT a lot harder to get money for ukraine approved, and much harder to avoid to shut down next month. There is by partition support in terms of ukraine, in both the house, in the senate for sending more weapons, more humAnitarian aid. But house republicans are deeply split on this issue. Just last month, more than half voted against more money for ukraine. Jim Jordan was one of those, and he argues, is just not a priority for him.

America, order situation and the scribe on the streets. Everybody knows that .

senate republicans who support money for ukraine or ali worried and trying to figure out a way to get IT approved in terms of avoiding a shutdown. It's really hard to see how a new republican speaker is gonna want to reach across the elder pass of bill with democrats, especially after what happened in a carthy when he did that.

Yeah, we will find out who gets the job that pr things.

Thank you.

The military ian scene has become a graveyard for a record number of people so far this year.

Yeah, people are risking their lives and hope for a Better future in europe. They flew for various reasons, poverty, conflict, climate change or execution. The estimates that this year alone, over two and a half thousand people have died on that journey, and the real figure is likely even higher as many birds think without a trace.

P shock is currently on a search and rescue ship in the meditation. Im, truth, where exactly are you in the medicinal?

Cy, well, we are in international waters off the tunisian coast. I won a boat called the MV geovanni, which is run by the charity doctors without borders, or msg. And the reason there in this area is because there's a lot of smugglers boats that depart from tunisia and from libya to to europe.

And now they hear keeping a twenty four hour watch from the bridge of the ship for people that are need of help and, you know, aid, the stakes are really high here. These vessels that set up from liberate tunney, they regularly sink, and recently smuggles from tuna. I have even started sending people towards europe in these metal ships, and they're even less safe.

For example, apparent even a small wave can capsize them. The smugglers send people out there without radios, for help, without food, even sometimes, sometimes they drift for days. The staff on this ship has rescued hundreds of people at one point. They even had six hundred people on board.

Guys just Operating in these particular seas is politically complicated.

right? You know, emf says their ship here acts like an ambuLance service for people in need. But IT is really politically difficult.

For example, you have in this region the libyan coastguard, which is financed by the european as part of their efforts to stop migrants from reaching europe, but they regularly violate human rights as well as international maritime laws and fulvia contest. She's the head of msf searching and rescue team on board the mb g. Aarons SHE says they are even threaten the boats of charities Operating in this area.

We have the vessel of the living that actually approaching in a quite aggressive way. And and yes, see that in generally that they've three and us saying, if you don't leave, the idea are going to be exposed to bullet guns.

SHE says f teams have even been threatened with being short if they don't leave, and that the libyan coast guards treatment of migrants is even worse. There's recent aie footage showing the coast guard ramming into a boat of migrants so hard that they splinted IT pieces, and some fifty people ended up in the water. The libyan coastguard apparently pulled most of those on board and brought them back libya.

But the migrants, they face terrible conditions like detention, torture and savery. So mss points out this is not a safe destination, and that therefore bring migrants there in this E. U. Funded project is against all kinds of international and maritime laws.

What happens to the migrants once to rescue by myself?

Well, they are careful by a whole team on board as medics, psychiatrists, protection officers. And there's also a midwife that mei and ugly, and he tells me, you know, many of the men, and unfortunately, possibly a majority of the women SHE meets, have suffered some kind of sexual violence in their journey to reach europe. SHE remembered one of her first trip s on the gear. Bearance SHE says they rescued three pregnant women. Two of them were pregnant as a result of rape.

And I would remember these because the only one who was not due to rape, she's one who did, unfortunately, a miss carriage on board says.

you know, one baby has been born on the geo. bearance. But sadly, she's seen many more miscarriages because of the awful physical conditions.

Women in your c that mp r roof. sure. Lock in the meditation. Ian, sea roof. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Pakistani officials have announced that all undocumented migrants must leave the country by november first.

pakistan interior minister said. Those that do not leave by the deadline will have their property and asset seized and face arrest and deportation. Pakistan has taken in hundreds of thousands of migrants from neighbors afghanistan in the last few years. Around one point seven million unregistered afghan are currently living in the country. Some have been in pakistan for decades.

For more on this, we're joined now by a journalist amid coach who is in islamabad. D so what's the reason why pakistan is doing this and why now I think a .

lot of IT has to do with the politics and the relationship between these two countries. And I think it's at the lowest point right now. There's a lot of tension between these two countries. The things that how to do with pakistani militants who are Operating according to pakistani I officials inside afghanistan and the interim taliban government is not doing enough to curb them. And so all of that is really reflecting on the way possibly pakistan treating now they have gone refugees. But the point is, right now, whatever you see between these two countries, whatever you see happening with regards to i've gone refugees in pakistan, has a lot to do with the bad relationship between carbon and islamia ing.

The afan are the primary target. I mean, how has the taliban government couple responded?

They're not happy. Pakistan is the main uh, commercial and economic outlet for ghanian is a landlocked country, as you know so they're not very happy. And just yesterday, we had this very alarming incident at one of the crossings on the border between pakistan, afghanistan, where, according to pakistan military statement, an afghan, a border security guard, open fire on pakistan's entering afghanistan.

A couple of people died, one of them as a twelve year old. Pakistan did not respond open fire because, you know, according to the statement, they did not want more collateral damage. And that's the word they used.

So it's a very, very ten situation of a lot of people here in pakistan. S so are watching how pakistan would really implement its its decision to excel people who do not leave voluntarily by the first of november. So how's going to happen? It's a huge number there, at least one point seven million, as you said.

I can tell you, in four decades since pakistan started hosting, i've ve gone refugees. And never did we see the kind of tension we see right now between these two countries. Have you heard .

from undocumented migrants, particularly afghans, that we're going to be impact by this?

I've been for over a period of time speaking to many of them actually. And you have to understand one thing. I mean, four decades of i've gone refugees in pakistan, we have, we have at least two or two to three generations of afghani s actually uh residing in pakistan.

Many of them know pakistan is the as the only homeland. And you know, I make kids of gun. Children have have gone refugees who are enormous red with the country they would like to join the pakistani police, the pakistani military, work in the pakistani media. So there's a lot of close me, so to speak, between these two countries, a lot of things that are common. IT will be fascinating to see how pakistan really manages to disengage from afghanistan after four decades.

And we mention the number one point seven million and document afghans in pain. How is that government to do this? I mean.

a lot of people, IT is a lot of people. And Frankly speaking, pakistan does not have system in place or any mechanism really to deal with this issue. I mean, to deport one point seven million and arrest them and and process them at police stations and detention centres, all of that does not exist. I mean, one of the reasons why pakistan find itself in this is pot is because he does not have that system minute sort of pursuit of policy of open borders with afghanistan a since the one thousand nine hundred eighty, since the fight against the the invasion to excel and arrest and deport and document one point seven million by the first of november. It's a huge exercise yet to be seen how the pakistanis were managed.

This as a coi who is in is long about. Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And that's at first for thursday, october fifth, amy Martinis and lao.

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