Tacky and Gross Celeb-Filled Bezos-Sanchez Wedding, and Zohran Mamdani's Fake Origin Story, with Walter Kirn | Ep. 1098
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I'm Megan Kelly. Welcome to the Megan Kelly show and happy Monday. It's the week we celebrate our nation's independence day. Hence the American flag on my sweater. I'm getting in the mood. Hope you are too. Next year is going to be the big one. 250 years. I cannot wait. But 249 is pretty good too. I'd be feeling pretty good if I were 249 years old.

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And thank God we have a Supreme Court that's fighting right along with us these days. In less important but somewhat interesting news, Jeff Bezos and Lauren Sanchez have officially tied the knot out in Venice, Italy, in front of 200 of their dearest, closest, lifelong family friends like Gail and Oprah. Just kidding. It was a random assortment of celebrities who would help them get headlines.

Protesters describing themselves as the no space for Bezos movement. That's actually not so clever. People, they were there trying to disrupt the festivities. Don't they know that there were astronauts present? I mean, the disrespect. We will get into that. Plus, some more serious matters were on verdict watch now officially in the Diddy case. The jury has the case.

I mean, honestly, this could go either way. I believe he should be convicted. If I had to put money on it, I would say he will be convicted.

He absolutely should be convicted of at least the prostitution charges. And if he's not, as I said last week, that will be the tell that there was total jury nullification on the basis of his celebrity and the jury being wooed by the fact that they were getting to pass judgment on Sean Diddy Combs. But what I think is going to happen is going to be found guilty probably on all three counts. It's five counts, but it's really three causes of action against him. So the jury has the case. They were charged this morning.

And wouldn't you love to be a fly on that wall just to hear the first go around, like the first vote where they go around and say, what'd you think? What'd you think? What'd you think? And there are such different personalities in these juries. I have to tell you, I've both served as a juror and I've tried cases and I've watched as a legal court watcher, you know, in my journalism role for many, many years now. You as a lawyer sometimes intentionally select somebody you know will be a follower because maybe you've already intentionally selected the one you think will be your leader, right?

And somebody who's more, you know, oriented your way, whether you're the prosecution or the defense. And it's, it would just be such an interesting study for any lawyer to be able to see whether they were right. Did they call this person right as a follower, this person right as a leader. A funny story for you. When I served on a jury, um, God, I think it was 2006. I don't think Doug and I were married. It was 2006 or 2007. So going on, you know, 20 years ago now, um,

Really interesting case. Really enjoyed doing it. Bonded with my fellow jurors. And just six months ago, I was down in D.C. for on business. And there was a guy with me in the elevator and he's kind of looking at me. And, you know, I never know whether it's just somebody who knows me from whatever television or the show or whether it's just a person who's curious about.

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Okay, so let's just start. I know this is a curveball, but let's just start with this ridiculous wedding that took place over this weekend. Because these two were behaving like they thought they were royalty. They were, you know, she did the balcony wave like she's a Marilyn figure or a genuine British royal, you know, blowing the kisses. And they had the ship, you know,

Their yacht, which has its own yacht, carting them around with their massive amounts of foam dripping into the Mediterranean, which I'm sure is not eco-friendly. Too bad because Leonardo DiCaprio was there. I'm sure he didn't approve of the amount being spent on the foam into the Med.

And from what I can tell, Walter, almost no actual friends. They don't know Gayle King. She they invited Gayle on that ridiculous space flight so they could get some news coverage on CBS. And now because she did it, she's at the wedding. Oprah.

They don't know Oprah. That's a lie, too. Oprah went and watched Gail go up in this thing. So now she gets an invite. Why? Because she's a celebrity. Leonardo DiCaprio. I'm sure they're really tight with Leonardo. I'm sure it's Sidney Sweeney, the new toast of the town out there because she's got these enormous breasts that everybody's obsessed with. How does she wind up there? If you told me it was like Lauren Sanchez's colleagues from the first news station she worked at.

Sure, that's normal. That's what a true friend would do, invite their lifelong friends. Or Jeff Bezos when he first opened Amazon. Yeah, okay, I get it. Even Bill Gates was there. I'll give him that one. Huge fellow tech titan. But this was meant...

to generate headlines and fawning coverage and accolades and nothing better encapsulates that than the moment they got married, she wiped her Instagram clean and repopulated it with her Vogue magazine spread photographs and just the one post of Lauren Sanchez Bezos and their picture from Vogue. Give me a break.

What does this say about us, if anything?

Well, it was a Las Vegas wedding held against the backdrop of a civilized European city. And it should have probably been held in the Las Vegas version of Venice rather than the real version. Venice is a city of great commercial enterprise. It was a very rich city. All the ships of the world went out from Venice and the banking of the world was centered there. So this is an attempt to take over with the new class of

the sort of old world charisma of this wonderful place. Everybody looked tacky. As you say, the guest list seemed to have been chosen by a PR firm. Where was his little league coach, his favorite professor, you know, the guy who stuck with him, like you say, in the early days of business when nobody thought he was going to be a big deal. It was impersonal. It was tacky. It was expensive. It made a lot of money, strangely, for his efforts.

nemesis, Elon Musk, because most people used X to tune into this thing. So he spent 50 million and I think Elon made 50. But the great irony, and it's only known to somebody overeducated like me, is that the ruler of Venice and the great palace of Venice was called the Doge. Remember that?

the Doge Palace the Doge of Venice where have we heard that word um it's uh I think that Elon and Jeff are as they are in space engaged in a coded uh confrontation uh competition with each other beyond all of our heads to be you know the world's you know the world's billionaire and Jeff

after Elon had a rather unpopular run recently with some people and a very popular with others. Jeff has sunk to the bottom of that ranking as far as I'm concerned. I look at Lauren Sanchez and I think this is somebody who in another life

and many years ago in her life, I could have been friends with. She's a journalist. She's a helicopter pilot. She was moving up the ranks in the journalism business. And that's great. I mean, that's somebody who I have got lots of friends in the journalism business.

And then there's another strain of Lauren Sanchez, which seemed to be a person determined to marry or date her way into fame, a fame she was unable to attend to achieve as a journalist, as a newscaster. No one knew who the hell she was. She wasn't famous. She didn't make it on any sort of national level, but she married some famous or was with. I can't still ensure some famous professional athlete.

Then she married the co-head of WMG, the Aria manual firm. Here's yet another one of her Vogue photos in her underwear. Right. Because we all celebrate our weddings here.

Walter by posing first our wedding dress, then in our underwear with just a peak of breast in the photo. I'm not sure how I celebrated mine. And then she traded up from that Patrick White cell into Jeff Bezos. And that, of course, was widely reported to be an extramarital affair by both Sanchez and Bezos, while they were both married to other people. And this is just a long winded way of saying,

I think something's happened to her. Like she just kept wanting to trade up when it came to money and power and fame and not coincidentally kept trading up, obviously, on the plastic surgery only by up. I mean, poorly. She got connected with the Kardashians up and down. Yeah. Up and down. All of whom were there.

By begging, according to page six, they had an exclusive that they actually only wanted Kim Kardashian, Kris Jenner, and Kris Jenner begged to have all the Kardashian daughters invited. So they they relented. But she, Lauren Sanchez, has clearly spent too much time with them now because she's clearly gotten the weirdly skinny waist that no 55 year old woman magically develops at 55. The enhanced, clearly bottom, the overly enhanced breasts, the very bizarre looking face where it just gets like super ugly.

Super bloated with, I don't know if it's filler or what it is, but like weirdly puffy under the eyes to where your eyes look like almost Asian, but you're not Asian. And then of course, weirdly puffy lips that only their Kardashian doctor can give you that look

Porn star ish, fake and ghoulish. I mean, you look like a Mr. Potato Head. You no longer look human. So she spent too much time with these people and she's morphed. I think chasing these false gods has gotten her to look like a morphed, just unrelatable creature.

plastic version of the beautiful woman who used to be there striving in earnest to make it on her own, but instead kind of sold out. That's how I see her. Anyway, you take it from here.

She looks like a sex doll that you pump up with a foot pump. And she's been getting a few more pumps every few months. But he's a pretty augmented character himself. You know, Jeff was a skinny Princeton nerd when he started Amazon. And now he's a beastly man, you know, man monster with huge guns and, you know, testosterone infected gaze and a very, very,

how can I put it? Lordly alpha manner. So I think they're both now they're, they're doll fantasies of themselves. It was like watching them. Yeah. It was like watching the marriage of two Mattel products, you know, you know, man, man and boob woman. And, and,

Will they be able to reproduce? Will they want to? That's the question. Because if they do, they'll give birth to a child who looks like a human being and will gaze up from his crib at these rather bizarre creatures that raised him. Will he want to be like them? Who knows?

What do you make of the guest list? I mean, it was just so I think back to when I married Doug and we, you know, my second marriage. So I didn't meet Doug until I was 35 and we got married when I was 37. Who's there? All my friends from Fox News, some of my lawyer friends, you know, some friends from my childhood. That's who you invite. Like I what is the point of inviting all these Hollywood celebrities if it's not just an attention grab?

At a wedding, you're supposed to have people who've known you for a long time who can tell jokes about the time your swim trunks fell off when you dived into the pond and embarrassing stories from when you were young. But none of those people were there. I'm sure they had maybe they had a viewing party for the actual friends back in some bar in Poughkeepsie or something. Yeah. But yeah, it was a brand awareness wedding. You know, people brought their brands around.

The only disappointment for me in the wedding was that when they stepped gingerly down into those gondolas that were floating in the canals, nobody wiped out. I thought there were going to be way more sort of high heel disasters, people going into the drink. But there just wasn't there wasn't enough schadenfreude. I mean, there's plenty of schadenfreude in the sense that we hope all of them, you know, have survived.

boating accidents on the way home or, you know, their helicopters have to land in, you know, hostile countries. But I don't think anything bad is going to happen. And this is kind of like the French laundry interlude during COVID with Newsom showing that no matter what happens to the rest of the world, he's going to be just fine. You know, we were going to have World War III a week ago, but that was not going to stop this wedding.

I'm sure that, you know, had even the missiles been flying, these people would have grabbed our attention. It's it's a kind of arrogance that you see in the movie Citizen Kane or something like that. And I think its message ultimately is you can't touch this. You can't. That's right.

Well, that's how it feels. It's a very, very let them eat cake kind of moment at a time when half of these people are members of a party. Probably all of them are members of a party that's lecturing us on how we have to get rid of the oligarchy. Right. Like.

Leonardo DiCaprio with his environmentalist lectures. How do you explain all the planes that were required, the private flights that took Oprah and Bill Gates and the rest there, Leo and probably Leo too, and all the boats, here he is, getting in one of the Venetian boats to get to the weddings, the wedding events. Like, all of these people...

to speak for values that were not on full display here. You've got AOC and Bernie literally on a stop the oligarchy tour. Meanwhile, everybody there was a Democrat. Oprah, Gayle. I mean, I don't know about the Kardashians. I assume they are. Where was Barack Obama? Where was Barack? You would think he would have shown up at this.

There are certain global all-stars like David Geffen and Bruce Springsteen that you would think would show up. I think they embarrassed even some of them, frankly. I get the feeling that there were people who were invited who had children's birthdays they had to attend in New Jersey. You really have to.

You really had to go over the line and be willing to be hated for at least a year and a half and called a hypocrite for the rest of your life to attend this wedding. Was it worth it? We'll see. Here's Lauren Sanchez pre the wedding photo shoot with Vogue talking about, you know, what she's what she's gotten from Jeff and what's happening on this day.

It's like so emotional. It's really emotional. I want to be a mess, but in the best possible way. And let's talk about the dress. It just feels like, I don't know, it carries everything I've walked through to get here. It's elegant. It's timeless. It's soft. Domenico really captured something that feels like where I am right in this moment right now.

OK, your tits, your tits, ass and lips is what you are in this moment right now. It used to be that Vogue was a rather tasteful high fashion magazine, and now it's just gone Lollapalooza, you know, full on bread and circuses. And does America need this?

Maybe in our last gasp before full socialism, we'll look back on this and these will be the days, you know, remember when you could have a 50 million dollar wedding and, you know, Luigi didn't come in the middle with a AR. Yeah, right.

Can I tell you, let me give you a couple more. Let me give you a couple more. So she's that's her in her pre wedding shoot wearing her full wedding gown so that Vogue can have the exclusive of her in the wedding gown as soon as they say I do. God forbid we just actually put on our wedding gown and be seen for the first time by our by our husbands.

and our wedding party in it. She wore a dress custom designed over a year and a half by Dolce & Gabbana. It's based on the wedding dress Sophia Loren wore to marry Cary Grant in the 1958 film Houseboat. For the wedding dinner, she wore a sweetheart neck corseted gown. For the reception, she opted for a cocktail dress by Oscar de la Renta featuring 600 yards of hand-sewn chain and chainstay

175,000 crystals on her jewelry. An insider told Page Six it said Lauren will wear a long list of precious jewels throughout the festivities that could easily be worth between 20 and 30 million dollars. She did the digital Vogue treatment landing on the cover for this thing. She wore a secret souvenir at the wedding that she brought along as well on her Blue Origin fake space trip.

Meanwhile, her quote after she got back to land Walter was...

So dark. It's so quiet. She's not exactly a novelist. And if she was ever a journalist, I can't believe she was a very good one, because to go to space and then have nothing to say about it is a real accomplishment. It's so dark. Usually people who go to space have this kind of mystic attitude.

vision of the earth as one and floating alone in the darkness of the universe and how we're all, you know, we're all just people and it shrinks their egos rather than expands them. But it seemed to have the opposite effect on her. Also, I hope to vote. Let me give it to you firsthand so you don't have to take my, my interpretation of it. Here's thought 24. Earth looked so, it was so quiet and,

It was just quiet. Is it what you expected? No. Better? I don't think you can describe it. You can't. You know what I'm saying? It was like...

Quiet, but then also really alive. And you look at it and you're like, we're all in this together. But alive. Seeing Jeff before I left, I just went, like, you know. I had to come back. I mean, we're getting married. If I didn't come back, that would be a bummer for me. Only you, by the way, would say this to me. You said, Jeff, if you don't want to marry me, you don't have to send me to space. Don't have to send me to space.

Hmm. It's a miracle they found each other. When you go to space in science fiction, you age a little differently than the people on Earth and come back. She seems to have come back as an eight year old. She's the only person I know who ends sentence with, well, it's really. And I really thought it was. I mean, those aren't words. Yeah.

I don't know. The reason it was quiet, I would venture, is because she was sealed inside a space capsule. It wasn't the Earth that was quiet. It was your space capsule.

It's so absurd that we now have to look at these people. That's what was bothering me. It was like the the kisses from the balcony and the waving like she like truly like she's a queen. And then you had the parade of celebrities reportedly Lady Gaga and Elton John expected to perform at one of the events. Here's the thing.

They then had whatever, some party, I guess, after the wedding party. It was a three night extravaganza. And this, the last night was celebrated with ready Walter. I know, I know you've been to many weddings like this, a pajama party.

Oh, God. Or a shimmery bronze ensemble featuring feather trimmed cuffs. Gail wore a tank dress topped with a colorful patent patterned robe. Kim Kardashian wore, of course, a corseted look with sheer stockings and garters. And Lauren Sanchez. Here's Kim Kardashian always bringing the class. Look at her. Is it really a party if you haven't seen Kim Kardashian's breasts yet?

And Lauren Sanchez Bezos wore a pink gown because that's what everybody sleeps in. Don't you sleep in a pink gown, ladies? Go ahead, Walter. Aren't pajamas supposed to be loose and comfortable and have little footies? And aren't people supposed to turn out the lights secretly in the middle of a pajama party and somebody gets to second? This was not this was not to stand in an elevator with Lauren Sanchez and you've gotten to second. Yeah.

I hope, by the way, that the Vogue cover of her is their first 3D cover, because I don't think you can appreciate her figure without the 3D effect. They really regressed, didn't they? I mean, to a pajama party. Oh, my gosh. I bet they were talking pizza at each other.

That's what they're trying to telegraph. We're just regular people now. And I'm going to wear my corset and my pink gown before the end of the show. I am going to go into my closet and I'm going to take out a pair of actual pajamas so you can see how actual people go to sleep. And there will not be a feather to be shown. It does not involve a corset. Who the hell?

The hell goes to sleep in a corset? What is this? Even the ladies of the 1700s didn't do that. This is all just so fake. It's just like a fake display of fake celebrity. Fake humility. Yeah. Fake pajamas and fake friendships. All of it. It's just it's so off putting.

Do you think they had to pay for those invitations? Do you think that their agents negotiated their attendance at these things? I do. Ari Emanuel was there, who she might actually know because she was married to his business partner at WME. But I guarantee you something like that.

Ari Emanuel said, let's get Sidney Sweeney there. I represent her and she's a rising star. It'd be great to see her names in the headlines. And these two were like, great, no problem. I'm imagining that to be clear. But I know these things are done all the time just to get like an up and coming starlet. And, you know, in the in the headlines, that's why Chris Jenner insisted that the other cast

lesser known, lesser accomplished Kardashians get an invite, right? Because they're like, she's like, I need to see their name in, in the headlines. I need whatever the model. And I need the, the young one who used to look a thousand times different than she does right now. I need her in the headlines. I need like all of them. What does it matter if we show up, if we just enjoy ourselves, that's not the point. The point is the picture and to see our names in the headlines.

well you know i'm a novelist that's really what i do and i write books and screenplays and so on and amazon started as a company that sold books you know it's a it's america's bookstore there was no literary content whatsoever at these things the people were barely literate i didn't see any of them reading and there were it was a hundred percent showbiz and what's strange is hollywood isn't really doing that well these days

But they acted as though it was a glorious golden age. And I think it was really the swan song for celebrity culture. I really do. People like you, Megan, and others have started in this new media. And soon movies will be much cheaper and made by AI. And we'll be rid of these folks in many ways. Okay, now I want to tell you that...

This morning on AM Update, we ended the podcast by saying that when they finished their vows, they had their...

sing Whitney Houston's Higher Love to them. And that is indeed what they did along with a gospel choir that led it. And Doug, my husband, goes, didn't Steve Winwood sing Higher Love? He is right. The Steve Winwood did sing Higher Love. He co-wrote and originally released it in 1986. But Whitney covered the song in 1990 for her album I'm Your Baby Tonight. And that was the version that...

Lauren and Jeff wanted sung to them by their attendees and a gospel choir. So it was Whitney Houston's version of higher love. And by that, they mean love you find while you're married to two other people surreptitiously behind their backs when they're not looking or looking at your phone. That's the higher love that they found that they wanted us to sing about and think about as we celebrate their union.

No, this was a celebration of lower love, the lowest love that exists. And that song, in fact, is about seeking a transcendent spiritual love above mere human love. So they got it wrong in every way possible.

wrong attribution to Whitney, wrong song for a place that was, for a wedding that was a celebration of jewels, $20 million outfits. I just hope they took all of these wardrobes, packed them into a

and have given them to a food bank in Newark, New Jersey, because they could keep it running forever. It's not that I think they spent too much money. It's just that I now think they should give away what's left over. Yeah. Okay. I have a sweet story to tell you now. Now, palate cleanser before the next story. Speaking of giving clothes away, we have friends here at the beach who I featured on the show a couple of years ago. And the reason I featured them is

was because they lost their 17 year old son, Blake Barklage, uh, to myocarditis. It was a sudden cardiac event and they, they don't know what caused it. He, everybody thought, okay, it's COVID it's vaccines. They really don't know. He had had both COVID and two Pfizer shots, but they don't know. Uh, the point is they lost their son and they're dear friends of ours. And, um,

They started a charity in their son's name. It's called Blake Gives Back. And they help do like heart screenings at high schools to try to help this from to stop this from happening from up to other young boys or girls. And they do a bunch of different things and they raise funds to try to help other kids. Anyway, they gave some of the Blake gear that they had, which always has like the BB on it, like Barklage to a homeless shelter.

and Tom, the dad, was driving his car today, and what did he see? But he saw a guy out on the street who was clearly homeless or indigent with all this Blake Parkledge gear on him. And I just, it was like, and he said that, you know, this, yeah, he said, you know, this guy's got a guardian angel up there right now. Blake's looking down at him right now trying to figure out how to help this guy take his next steps. And I don't know, just as you see, like, the

Just the banality of people like Sanchez and Bezos, you're reminded of the goodness of your fellow man by the family Barklage. And stories like that, where it's like one small good deed, you know, you see it manifesting out on the road and you think, right on, you know, right on. That's the kind of human most of us actually spend our days with.

Yeah, it wasn't an inspiring example of human giving or human empathy, that's for sure. I don't expect to see a homeless person on the streets of San Francisco robed in one of these $5 million pants.

pajama, bejeweled pajama outfits. But you know what the final takeaway is, is that Donald Trump thought to be the most garish, gauche and vulgar American rich person is now now looks like Prince Edward or Cary Grant compared to these people. I mean, they have outdone him in the vulgar department by a factor of 10. Yeah, that's right. It does feel vulgar. But that's

You know, it's so interesting because truly all these people are Democrats, guaranteed they're Democrats. And Jeff Bezos showed up at the Trump inauguration because he wanted access to power. I don't think there's any realistic chance he voted for Trump or wanted Trump or is voted Republican. He runs the Washington Post for God's sake. Yeah, no, right, exactly. But I mean, he owns the Washington Post. If he actually cared about changing America in Trump's image or consistent with Trump's policies, would we have the Washington Post? We have. No, we would not.

So it's, you know, it's whatever. It's false. However, the Democrats, his party, I guarantee you that's his party and the others who are there from Leo to Oprah to Gayle.

They're the ones who are telling us stop the oligarchy. They're the ones who just elected this nutcase as their nominee in New York. Right. This Zoran Mondami. They're the ones who are out there every day lecturing us about how wealth is bad and it needs to be taxed. Or the latest message by this Mondami that has emerged is he said on the Sunday shows.

I don't think there should be any billionaires. While literally saying for the entire campaign that he just ran and won, we're going to tax all the billionaires. That's what's going to pay for my plan. I'm going to give all these free giveaways to all of New Yorkers by taxing the billionaires. And then he tells the Sunday shows, where is it? Which one is it, Deb? That he doesn't believe there should be any. It was Meet the Press on NBC's Hot One. You are a self-described democratic socialist. Do you think that billionaires have a right to exist? No.

I don't think that we should have billionaires because frankly it is so much money in a moment of such inequality. And ultimately what we need more of is equality across our city and across our state and across our country. And I look forward to work with everyone, including billionaires, to make a city that is fairer for all of them.

So there you have it. Well, there aren't going to be many billionaires left in your city, Zoran, so you're solving the problem merely by trying to get elected. A lot of them are moving to Palm Beach or wherever they can get out of reach of your tax man. Does he mean by them not existing that they shouldn't be alive or that they shouldn't have a billion dollars? Right.

Finally, the problem with Zoran is that he doesn't look like a guy who grew up on the street. He didn't. His parents are rich. Yeah. His mom's a film director. I'm sure he's gotten the best acting coaching since age three, and that is part of his appeal. His father's a tenured professor at Columbia University, and he just...

He skipped the whole, you know, remember when Lech Walesa overthrew the communists? He was a working man. He worked in a shipyard back when in the days American socialism was based in the labor movement and came from really rough guys who worked in factories and, you know,

did that kind of thing. Now it's socialism from the top. He might not be an oligarch, but he's been to many of their parties, I promise you. Yes. And he's so his mom,

Has she's a relatively well-known film director who, according to him, was given the opportunity to direct, according to her, she says, was given the opportunity to direct one of the Harry Potter films, which has made something like, I don't know, nine hundred million dollars. And he talked her out of doing it in favor of directing something that was more akin with like their values. And that made 20 million. So he like.

This was his... This is the guy who's going to be our economic steward in America's greatest city. Like...

Like, you know what? Why don't you forego the billion dollar film for the 20 million dollar film? Because it'll make me feel good about myself. He's out there cosplaying like a third world person because he lived in Uganda for the first seven years and then moved here. He's 33. This video of him eating with his fingers is circulating. Well, he's talking about how he understands the third world. I mean, literally his mother's, I think, got millions here. Watch this.

So the third holy grail of taboos in American politics, you have socialism, you have Islam, and then you have Palestine. And you are really going for the trifecta. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Tell me, why is Palestine a part of your politics? When you grow up as someone especially in the third world, you have a very different understanding of the Palestinian struggle.

So I don't know what's happening there, but somebody was defending him saying he was using a piece of bread. He certainly looks like he's scooping his fingers into his food and shoving it into his mouth. And I actually don't really care if there was bread or not, but it's even worse if there's not bread. That's not how somebody who's an American eats.

But it's him cosplaying third world person and understanding third world, even though his mother is this multimillionaire film director and his father is a chaired professor at Columbia. Yeah.

Well, Americans always want their cake and eat it, too. They want to, you know, lose weight without eating less. They want to learn in their sleep and they want everything, you know, in its impossible form. And now we want socialism from the point of view of a nepo baby, which is.

is the only way you could still believe in it at this point, because if you've actually lived it, like many of the refugees and migrants to America, he's the kind of politician that has caused people to emigrate to America because leaders like him have impoverished the countries that they come from. They must be like looking at each other and going, oh, no, not this again. So he is...

When he was running, he just won the Democratic nomination. As a reminder, the actual general election is four months away in November for the mayor of New York. But while running, he made clear that he wanted to divide the city in terms of race, that that's how he was going to determine who to tax more, who was advantaged and who wasn't.

And he was asked about this and his focus on whiteness when he went on Meet the Press. He's got a campaign platform that calls for the city's notoriously skewed property tax system in which ritzy brownstones are hit at lower rates than homes and rentals in lower income neighborhoods, which even some of his Republican competitors have acknowledged could be a problem. Like they're not...

It's it got this way through some wackadoodle policies. But even those who have been talking about this talk about it in terms of people who make a bunch of money shouldn't have a lower property tax than people who don't. Right. But what here's how he talks about it on his Web site. Shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer. Wait for it. And whiter neighborhoods.

Now, what does white have to do with it? Why didn't richer get it done? This came up when he went on Meet the Press this weekend. And here's how that went. Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.

That is just a description of what we see right now. It's not driven by race, it's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being undertaxed versus overtaxed. And I understand you're saying we're simply describing the types of neighborhoods that would see these increase in taxes, and yet by invoking race, do you run the risk of potentially alienating key constituents? I think I'm just naming things as they are.

And ultimately, my the thing that motivates me in this is to create a system of fairness. So no plans to change that language on your website. The focus here is to actually ensure a fair property tax system and that the use of that language is an assessment of the neighbor. If I have to demonize Whitey along the way, then so be it. That's just basically where he stands. It's a bonus. It's a fringe benefit.

You know, if whiteness itself confirmed wealth, albinos would be the richest among us. But they aren't. And the truth is that if you look at statistics across the board in America, per person, white people are not the richest demographic. They really aren't. And I challenge your listeners to do some research on that.

He's trying in all kinds of ways to be a mischievous revolutionary who we can love and hug and relate to, but he wants to signal at all times his absolutely most venomous and aggressive radical base.

The other thing that he's been doing is, um, allowing leaks or I don't know if he's allowing them there, if they're happening by themselves of past positions, which are even more horrifying than the ones he's holding presently. And I think the strategy there is to make himself look like he's moderated somewhat, you know, he, he's, uh,

You know, you almost expect to hear that at one time he wanted the New York Stock Exchange to be turned into a, you know, a halal meat market for the homeless or something. And now he just wants to close it down. He's moderated. Well, look at this one. This I don't know whether he's moderated on this one or not. But here is an explicitly communist principle that he embraced on this podcast and sat seven.

what the purpose is about this entire project it's not simply to raise class consciousness but to win socialism and obviously raising class consciousness is a critical part of that but making sure that we have candidates that both understand that and are willing to put that forward at every which moment that they have at every which opportunity that they are given we have to continue to elect more socialists and we have to ensure that

We are unapologetic about our socialism. There are also other issues that we firmly believe in, whether it's BDS, right, or whether it's the end goal of seizing the means of production. That was posted on X in 2021. It wasn't that long ago, but seizing the means of production. Whoa. Well, first of all, why did he dress in a green Star Trek pajamas? Very good question.

in front of a portrayal of the planet Jupiter. I think he's trying to make us think he's the future and that he represents something that we can't stop, something that's coming for us. - He might be posing as Katonji Brown Jackson put it in the Supreme Court case that dropped on Friday,

quote, from another planet, as though she's not aware that our native our native Martian population is one thing. The ones that come from another planet.

He's a bizarre character. He's an actor. He's been cast. He's a salesman. If he came to my door, you know, I would slam it because I would be sure that he wanted my credit card. If he wanted to marry a relative of mine, I would sit him down and, you know, question him on his prospects because he's

He's a little bit like the music man. He suddenly showed up in town with the answers to everything. And the simplest answer is that things should be free and that our big problem is that they aren't.

When he seizes the means of production, I wonder which institutional military force he's going to use since he wants to lay off the cops. Is he going to seize it with, you know, Antifa or is he going to seize it with, you know, these social workers with which he wants to replace cops? Yeah.

This is a disaster for New York because New York is actually a very hardworking town. It's an entrepreneurial town. Every time I go there, Megan, to stay in Midtown, I go on The Greg Gutfeld Show.

People are up at four in the morning putting out their food carts, cleaning up the streets, delivering furniture to office buildings, taking old furniture out of office buildings. And I wonder at how hardworking, how gritty, how commonsensical these New Yorkers are trying to put away a few bucks, driving their cabs, driving their Ubers, delivering furniture, you know, cleaning hotel rooms. Also, they can get a step ahead.

I don't think that those people, frankly, are his real constituency. He might talk about... No, they didn't vote for him.

No, he might talk about him. Blacks and Hispanics didn't vote for him. It was white people who were rich, but not uber rich. It was like the top four neighborhoods that voted for him were included Park Slope, Bed-Stuy. I can't remember the third. And then the other most rich community in New York is Upper East. And that's the only one that went for Cuomo because that's where you got the true millionaires.

It was white people because white there is a product now that white people want more than anything else. They've got everything else. They've got the night. Nice cars. A lot of them, you know, the affluent white people, at least. But there's something that he can give them that they really want. And that's to feel good about themselves. And he makes them feel good.

Yes. He makes them feel good about themselves. See the, the star on their Christmas tree, the thing they want after they get everything else is to feel that they are good human beings. And he knows that. And just like a candy salesman, he's giving it to them. Yeah. If they can, if they can sit in those fancy apartments and get to judge you for not being more like them, that's the wind. That's the heroin in the vein. He, um,

also happens to seem extremely anti-Semitic. He you heard him in that video there touting the BDS, the divest, you know, from Israel movement. And he once again got asked by Kristen Welker about his refusal to condemn the term globalize the intifada. Not going to do it. Wasn't interested in standing down from that at all. Here's that soundbite.

You were recently asked about the term "globalize the intifada" if it makes you uncomfortable. In that moment, you did not condemn the phrase. Do you condemn that phrase, "globalize the intifada"? That's not language that I use. The language that I use and the language that I will continue to use to lead this city is that

which speaks clearly to my intent, which is an intent grounded in a belief in universal human rights. Do you condemn that phase, globalize the Intifada, which a lot of people hear is a call to violence against Jews? I've heard from many Jewish New Yorkers who have shared their concerns with me. And I've heard those fears and I've had those conversations. And ultimately what I think I need to show is the ability to not only talk about something, but to tackle it and to make clear that there's no room for anti-Semitism in this city. Why not just condemn it?

My concern is to start to walk down the line of language and making clear what language I believe is permissible or impermissible takes me into a place similar to that of the president who is looking to do those very kinds of things, putting people in jail for writing an op-ed, putting them in jail for protesting. Ultimately, it's not language that I use. It's language I understand there are concerns about.

OK, let me say something, Walter. I'm not into making people say X, Y or Z at all. But the reason this guy won't say that is because he's in favor of it. One hundred percent. I have zero doubt in my mind. The real reason he won't condemn that phrase is because he agrees with it.

Well, you know, he's said to be a very eloquent and well-spoken guy, but that was word salad. You know, that was a word Waldorf salad. It had everything chopped up in it and it meant nothing. And frankly, when you go to those lengths not to say something, it's because you want to say it.

And he, not to mention his father, his Columbia professor father, have made so many statements that should alarm your average Jewish American. We don't have enough time to do it here, but it tracks. It tracks perfectly. I don't know how the city that has the second most Jews in the world, second only to Israel, is going to let this guy become mayor. How are they not going to organize in massive numbers behind him?

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Welcome back to The Megyn Kelly Show. Back with me now is Walter Kern. So just before we leave the topic of the Zoran Mondami, who is apparently the future of the Democratic Party, David Friedberg of the All In podcast, very smart guy, had a different take on why he's become so popular within New York and in particular, young people. It was young people who really helped drive him to the win and who seemed to be his most ardent fans. And he's

And I think this bears listening to. Here he is. Kamala Harris is going to look like a conservative candidate pretty soon. It's really a revolution against the system that brought them to this moment. Because the promise that we gave in America, the American dream was if you will go to college, you will graduate, you will have income, you will have stability, you will be able to buy a home. And what we did is we increased the government's role in making that dream possible. And in doing so,

We created effectively a system where we gave unrestricted access to capital, which inflated the cost of education. People could go to school like Zoran and major in African studies and graduate with $200,000, $300,000 of debt.

and then never get a job. The guy has not had a real job. And this is the truth for 32 million young Americans. They all have what is called negative capital. They have debt and they will never be able to get out of that cycle. So where do you turn in that moment? You don't go turn to corporations to solve your problems. You turn to the voting booth and you hear a guy like Zoran show up and say there can be a better path forward. The better path forward is the government can and should do more to help.

And this becomes a tipping point when the majority of the voter base ends up in that situation where they're that deeply in need, where they have negative capital. And that is the situation America finds itself in today. There is no easy answer and there is no easy solution out of this. Iran won 61 to 39 with college educated. At the end of the day, young college educated white people elected this guy. And that is the beginning of a wave that will sweep over America. And I really do worry about where this takes us.

I think that is so smart. And it really does. The way we just keep upping the amount of loans you can get from the government to go to college and then the colleges keep upping their tuition so that they're the only beneficiaries of all that. And then giving these useless degrees that people like Mamdami get, like majoring in African studies or women's studies and

that will not lead to gainful employment, but will lead to a bunch of navel-gazing and growing hatred for oneself and possibly one's government and country.

that then leads you to emerge by saying, actually, government is the answer. But as long as I'm at the top of it, private industry is the problem. Republicans are the problem. And what really needs to happen is seizure of industries and me in charge so that people like me can finally make a living and have the American dream available to them as it as it isn't right now, because they were sold a bill of goods.

by these colleges, by the federal government that funds them to the nth degree, and by everybody who pretends that these useless degrees these people get are actually going to take them someplace or open certain doors. Your thoughts? I have two recent college graduate children who live in two of the most expensive cities in the U.S., New York City and Los Angeles.

They are wonderful kids who studied hard and are working hard and good jobs. Those jobs are barely capable of supporting them in these cities. You know, they live with roommates, their expenditures and their incomes

pretty much match because they've got a dad who told them not to spend more than they make. They don't. But if they even skimp and save, it really doesn't go very far. These are real problems. They definitely are. Rents,

underemployment, I suppose. But most of them can be traced to government policies and programs in the first place. See, the wonderful perpetual motion machine of certain kinds of democratic politics are that the government creates the problem and then it sells you the solution. And the same people make money on both ends of the proposition. Yeah, yeah. It's

This is very connected to the woke DEI problem that we're dealing with in schools and colleges across the country where Heather McDonald has documented this brilliantly. You if you take a lot of these young men and women who get into these elite universities, so-called elite, you know, the Ivy League who get in thanks to skin color, DEI related things.

And you removed those preferences and just let them go to the colleges that their SAT scores and their non inflated grades, because now they're coming out of high schools that also inflate their grades based on skin color. But let's go back to the day where they were graded on what they actually did on the test. And the SAT was whatever it was. And then they either got into a school or didn't, irrespective of skin color.

They would go to those schools, those so-called lesser schools, and they would become engineers and mathematicians and maybe be on their way to doing like quant work that actually pays a lot. But what's happening instead is they're going to Harvard. They're going to Yale where their test scores are two standard deviations, at least below the average student there who is Indian, Asian or white.

And they're winding up in the African Studies Department or the Women's Studies Department because those are the only places where they can get an easy grade and still graduate and a totally useless degree that will not pay any of their bills. Go ahead.

I beg to differ slightly. A lot of the people who are coming into those schools now, and I went to one myself, Princeton University, who are coming from, you know, new to college backgrounds, are studying things like engineering. They're filling the computer science programs at places like Harvard. In some ways, the liberal arts

at those colleges, the English departments and so on are

starving for applicants. These colleges are filled with people who are attempting to join major corporations and so on. The problem is two things. One, that we live in an incredibly competitive industrial world in which even these good jobs, though they are high paying by some, you know,

absolute standard. Oh, $150,000. Well, that won't get you much in New York City, given the taxes, given the cost of living and so on.

But a lot of those problems have to do with how expensive New York is to do business in. And those are government programs. A lot of the high prices of New York and the high cost of New York are the result of programs like Zoran's, which aren't even as aggressive as the ones he's proposing. And so look at Boston and San Francisco. Same problem.

Yeah, being a young person in America is a really tough proposition these days because even when you do do the practical thing, even when you seek the professions that supposedly pay, you're in competition for housing and other things.

in a way that just doesn't allow you to get a leg up. And the solution to this that he proposes, which is a socialistic solution, higher taxes on those who have and so on. The problem with higher taxes is that you end up with less to tax because the people move away, the things you're taxing become less valuable. And it's kind of a vicious cycle. It's like

burning the furniture to stay warm after a while. Eventually you run out of other people's money. You run out of other people's money, you run out of furniture. And I have a lot of empathy for the sensible young people of America.

Also, those who have put themselves into huge debt. And one of the problems with student loans has always been that you all that money goes to the university. They're able to charge higher and higher prices. Megan, I had I had a student at an Ivy League college during covid who we were paying.

you know, $80,000 a year for and he was getting he was getting Zoom classes that were recorded because, you know, the college was closed for a year. These these places are raking it in.

And their students are given these high expectations. And that's the other problem. They come out with incredibly high expectations. They think that somehow having graduated from these places and having good initial salaries and so on, they're going to be able to save. But their inability to save has something to do with factors that aren't

aren't adjustable by taxation. And the problem he's addressing is a real one in the sense that there are people struggling, even those who shouldn't be struggling given their aptitude and their accomplishment. But

He is going to make it worse. That's what I see. And he's promising. What Freiburg says, Freiburg thinks that the solution in part should be the government should get out of the business of providing loans for college. The free market would take over. Now you've got Wall Street evaluating whether you are a good risk or a bad risk. And they will necessarily start defunding schools that don't take anybody anywhere and do...

that don't take anybody anywhere. And they'll be a lot more discriminating in figuring out who is a good bet

And which program and which major is a good bet? I mean, that'll raise a whole host of other problems. But I see his point. What happens every time is the government just keeps increasing the number of loans you can get. Then the colleges increase the tuition that they're going to charge you. You get absolutely no additional benefit, but you have to pay back all those loans. Eventually, the university gets richer and richer.

And then the university feels good about itself in some of these cases because they let in a DEI candidate who otherwise couldn't have gotten in. And they don't really give a shit whether you wind up with a job or not. They get paid either way.

Right, right. And so many jobs in America are basically make work these days. You know, at a lot of these universities, they have more administrators than they do students. And then at a lot of corporations, the human resources department and the other sort of bureaucracies within the company that don't actually add to the bottom line are sucking up vast amounts of money. And

Those expenses are distributed throughout society, and we live in a world which is expensive in a lot of ways because it's not productive. It appears to be productive, but a lot of it's being sucked into a black hole of rulemaking and rule administering. And then, as I say, these big cities, rents are incredibly high from people

millions of regulatory and other reasons. - Mostly government handout programs. - Yeah, and also because they're consolidating outside of the very big cities, a lot of the housing in America under giant corporate, not to be a revolutionary myself here, but when BlackRock is able to buy up 60% of the housing in a certain area,

It makes it very hard to compete when when half of the apartments are being rented as short term housing or Airbnb. It makes it hard to get a start. What America needs and Trump is a populist, too, is a populism that has some common sense to it and looks at all the causes.

And includes the government among those causes and includes the regulation of the financial industry, which has run a bit of muck in a market where it probably shouldn't be. It probably shouldn't be that international capital is governing the ability of Americans to get a first home. And we haven't even touched on it.

The illegal problem, too, which is all these big blue cities that we're mentioning are also funneling millions upon millions toward illegals when it comes to housing, health care and other public benefits. That just who pays for that? It's not free, as Zoran Mondami would have you believe. It comes from the workers, the actual citizens, the people who do get up and drag themselves out of bed every day, sometimes go to jobs that they can't stand because they're responsible for

And they wouldn't dream of letting somebody else, much less the government, cover for their bills. But they get stuck paying the bills of these other freeloaders who aren't even supposed to be here.

Well, I made a joke to a young New Yorker the other day who was complaining about, you know, whether he would be able to afford to live there under Mamdani. I said, you might not be poor enough to live in New York City. In other words, at some point, at some point it will be the poor who have the advantage of all sorts of payments, discounts, programs and so on. And that'll be a wonderful two days.

Yeah, exactly. You know, and then we know exactly what will happen. It will implode just like everybody else who's tried communism. Yeah. But but but but chasing employers out of the city is really it may cause rents to go down, but it will cause a lot of other things to go down with them.

Yeah, because he's like, not only am I going to tax the businesses, he wants to raise the corporate income tax. But even if if a company moves out of New York and moves to Texas or Florida, I'm going to hike their taxes for doing business in New York. So I will get them one way or another. Great way to chase them out of doing business in New York altogether. Like the ones who can. Not everybody will be forced to do that. Some some will say, F you, New York. You ever get try to order something through the mail and they say does not ship to whatever state.

It's because there's some policy in that state that makes it difficult or unpleasant or impossible for them to do business there. New York State just thinks it's above that. I would beg to differ. You know, and there's a tax that isn't financial. Let's call it the stress tax or the quality of life tax. I visit New York every few weeks as I have for years for business. So I get to see it, you

you know, in a staggered way. And the quality of life has deteriorated there. The street scenes are rougher, are rougher and more volatile. The expectations about crime and so on have have have fallen. You know, you just don't expect the safe, civilized city that you did in the

And if you're willing to go through all the struggles, financial and career wise, to stay and make it in New York. But you add this extra layer of just hassles and dirt and pot smelling on every corner and rats, more rats than you've ever seen in a city. And after a while you go, the mental tax is gone.

And under Mom Donnie, I have a feeling it's going to be a more chaotic, a dirtier, a less pleasing and less peaceful city. And that could be the difference. Yeah. Just to zoom out for a second, New York, which we're talking about, has five boroughs. I'm trying to remember the song that they taught my kids in preschool when they were little New York children. It was like the Bronx, Brooklyn, New York.

The Bronx, Brooklyn and Manhattan. Don't forget Staten Island. Anyway, whatever. There's five boroughs of New York City, five boroughs of New York City. OK, OK.

The Bronx is part of New York. No question. It is one of the five boroughs. Westchester is a tony community just north of New York City in between New York City and Connecticut. Westchester has got a lot of very well-heeled communities like Broncos.

Bronxville, that's where, well, I guess I shouldn't say, but somebody very famous who runs a very big sports organization lives and has raised his children. All sorts of lovely little pockets there. One half of it is on the water, the Hudson River, and overlooks that. And then on the other side, you kind of walk up and there's more water. Anyway...

There's a beautiful little town called Yorktown Heights in Westchester. It's not the fanciest of Westchester towns, but it ain't the Bronx by any measure. And the reason this is relevant is because a congresswoman who you may know as Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has been telling us for years that she is from the Bronx. And recently she had a fight with President Trump over tweet, text, truth, whatever, and

And she played tough and said, oh, don't you mess with me. I'm a Bronx girl. And we eat Queens boys for breakfast because that's where Trump was raised in Queens. And respectfully, AOC. Well, that's real cute, except she only lived in the Bronx until she was age five, when at best you're in usually kindergarten, maybe first grade. And she spent the rest of her childhood, one through 12th grade,

in Yorktown Heights, which is Westchester. And by any measure, it is richer,

nicer, and more white collar than the Bronx, with all due respect to my friends in the Bronx. She's pretending to be a Bronx girl because she wants this to be part of her origin story, the same way as she wants now to be called Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Meanwhile, everyone knew her as Sandy Cortez when she was growing up, and her lies are coming to the fore. So

Among other things, Benny Johnson, who's hilarious and he's a great Twitter follow and has a great show, went to Yorktown Heights just to take a look and to talk to some folks there about AOC and what Yorktown is like and so on. And now some of her schoolmates, separate and apart from Benny, are weighing in on her claims. I'll get to the Benny thing in one second, but there was a piece in the New York Post talking about how

She's embarrassing herself. She's embarrassing herself now with this Bronx girl claim. They went and tracked down Assemblyman Matt Slater, who's a Republican from Yorktown, New York State Assembly, and said he said, quote, She's embarrassing herself for doing everything possible to avoid saying she grew up in the suburbs instead of the Bronx. What she said now that people are starting to look at whether she's a Bronx girl, which she's not.

is, quote, I'm proud of how I grew up and I talk about it all the time. My mom cleaned houses and I helped. We cleaned Tudor's homes in exchange for SAT prep. She went to Boston University. Again, she's like Mom Dommy. She wants to, like, he's picturing himself eating with his hands like he's fresh off the boat from someplace. And she's talking about how she's been cleaning houses her whole life meanwhile she grew up in Yorktown. Then she writes, she says, growing up between the Bronx and Yorktown.

deeply shaped my views of inequality. And it's a big reason I believe the things I do today. Now back to Matt Slater, who says, first she said she has visited extended family

Then she said she had commuted between the Bronx and York. I was just visiting Yorktown Heights. Oh, I was just commuting. And now she's said she grew up in between the two, like back and forth, back and forth. No, she lived in the Bronx when she was five. Then they moved to Yorktown Heights. He says it's clearly desperate attempts to protect the lie that she is from the Bronx. And here is a bit from what Benny Johnson found.

We finally got to Yorktown Heights. Check out this beautiful entry to the city. Trees lining the road. The violins. Some mansions, beautifully manicured lawns, American flags. This looks like an awesome place to be from. You get out of the car and you find something like this.

Welcome to the capitalist horrors of AOC's Yorktown Heights Patriot State Park. You can see here a veteran's memorial circle that's been beautifully tended and groomed with a lot of American flags and a lot of honor for our great nation. Really just a terrifying place to grow up here. Capitalist swine trying to sell me rhubarb.

at this beautiful Meadows Farm farmer's market that like, you can smell it. They just want my money, my capitalist dollars. I'm not gonna let them do it because I'm an angry Marxist. No trash, no graffiti, yellow school buses. Disgusting, okay? So safe, so clean.

AOC grew up here. Now you can understand, okay? You can understand where the radicalization comes from. It's too nice. This is hell. We must destroy America and capitalism. We've been here for two hours. We've been walking around. It's beautiful. It's patriotic. There's like flag, American flags on every street. How could you become such a dirty communist growing up here? If it walks like a duck and it talks like a duck, maybe it's a duck. How's it possible?

I don't know. I don't think it is. I think it's fake. So do we all. I've spent a lot of time in New Yorktown Heights, actually. My college boyfriend was from there. There are lower end parts of it, but the town, Net Net, is absolutely beautiful and a lovely place to grow up. She's a liar. She's another cosplayer.

Well, they're all cosplayers, Megan. I hate to tell you, when I was in Washington for the inauguration, I attended the hearing of RFK's confirmation hearing. And looking out at the horseshoe of senators, the side that was dominated by the Democrats...

looked like a band that had been assembled for ethnic purposes. You know, we need, you know, we need the socialist Bernie. We need the finger wagging socialist. We need this guy who looks like this and that person. They're all playing parts. And so she's playing the Bronx girl. But here's what I hear from her story. Her parents took her from the Bronx, maybe a less nice, a rougher neighborhood. And

probably through saving money and working hard and following what we used to call the American dream, we're able to move to a nicer place. And should she not want that for all of us? In other words, should she not want that social mobility for all of us? My team's got the helpful map for everybody to see how far away Yorktown Heights is from Bronx. Why identify with the place that her parents worked hard to get her out of?

rather than the place that the parents worked hard to get her to.

It's it's cosplay and it's fake. But what it really does is it obscures the fact that she's the product of people who are able to work, save, buy a home and give their child an education. And it's that process that she should be protecting, not some fake revolution down on the street that are very mom and dad wanted her out of.

Mm hmm. This like anyone can do this, what she's doing. You look at your circumstances and talk about them in the most dire terms possible to make yourself sound tougher than you are, to make it sound like you overcame more than you did. And in her case, to make it sound like you have street cred when you try to fight the oligarchy. I mean, honestly, I could I could sit here and say I was raised by a single mom who was a nurse and.

who put me through college with their own blood, sweat and tears

It's true. It's true. All of that is true, except there's some context. For the first 15 years of my life, I had an intact family. My dad was alive and well and was a college professor, first at Syracuse and then at the State University of New York at Albany. And we were a double income family. And my mom was within nine credits of getting her Ph.D. and was eventually a nursing manager. And then my dad died suddenly. And my mom did have to put me through college with my dad's and

insurance money. So yeah, we had some knocks, but you see what I'm saying? Like leaving out the other part would lead you to think I had a much tougher childhood than I really did. And what she wants to do is the, she wants to inflate

The Bronx, the five years of Bronx living when she was a toddler into her actual origin story. Here's another example. I could tell you, Walter, I had to wait tables to put myself through school. I worked day and night, which is true, to make sure I could pay the bills so that I could go to law school and make something of myself. There'd never been a doctor.

or a lawyer in any of my family. My nana answered phones for the phone company. My pop-up worked at a paper mill. These were not rich people. Okay, all of that would be true. But the truth is I was...

waiting tables in between my summers at Syracuse University, which cost $15,000 a year back then. It's probably a lot more now. I know it's a lot more now. Here's how AOC, who went to Boston University, which I think is more expensive than Syracuse, talks about her stint. Yes, talks about her stint during that same period of her life. Listen to this. It's Sat 10.

Thank God.

I tried to stop caring. I tried to just keep my head down, work my shifts, and accept that this is just how things are. But that is no way to live, Arizona. It's no way to live. What I do know is that we don't have to live like this. And in fact, we cannot live like this anymore.

This is ridiculous, Walter. What in God's name is she talking about? Does she want to outlaw waitressing? This is the party also at the same time that's saying, who's going to pick the crops if we don't have migrants? Who's going to wipe your ass? That's what they literally said.

Is this the party of the dignity of labor or the party that's trying to, you know, get us all into office jobs? I can't tell who they're speaking to or what they're talking about anymore. If I wanted to list some of the worst jobs I've done and act as though, you know, I was trapped in them, I could tell a story of even harder knocks than she. Right. But it's called being a young person.

Yes. The fact is she's a U.S. congressman now who apparently spent the first few years in the Bronx. It wasn't her money that got them out of the Bronx. I don't think it was her lemonade stand that did it. It was her parents working hard. They left New York City because when you go over into Westchester, the most important thing that happens is you leave the tax district of New York City. And so they went to a...

you know, nicer neighborhood. Their child went to a private school in the capital of American East Coast academe, Boston, and she's now a congressman. Can't she be honest about her arc and her narrative, which is that of

being lifted on the backs of hardworking parents who obviously saved, obviously wanted the best for their child, and then using education and other things, maybe her natural talents, let's say, and even doing a little waitressing, she ended up a U.S. congressperson. That is not a kind of...

that is not an indictment of the American system. That should lead to a celebration of it. And we should be looking to make sure that the system that allowed that for her will allow that for others. Meanwhile, it's like, who picks their lowest time economically?

and tries to blow that up into the story of their existence. Like I, and I, I was struggling to put food on the table. You know, I joke with this with Adam Carolla at the time, we were like, does she mean literally as a waitress or does she mean back at home in her, in her house? She couldn't afford food because waitresses in America can afford food. They can afford food. It's

It's not that lowly a job, though she wants to portray it that way. She also wants all this credit because she's a bartender. And now that there's no tax on tips. I was a cocktail waitress. You know what, AOC? The bartenders made a lot more money at that bar than the cocktail waitress. So she was above me. So technically, I'm the one with despair in my past. I'm the one people should feel sorry for. I'm the one who got screwed by this. This is an absurd way of looking at...

being a young person. That's what she's calling back on. Everyone's poor in their 20s unless they came from a family with privilege. And that's a very, very small percentage of Americans. I taught English as a second language to new migrants in a Times Square business school for $10 an hour out of Princeton University, okay? $10 an hour in the Globe School of Business teaching Central American migrants to speak English.

And I worked at a school that was supported by the government. And one day I came in and said, "The kids aren't showing up for class and I don't have enough textbooks and so on." And they said, "All that matters is that you take attendance. All that matters is that you mark them present." I said, "Well, they're not present and I'm having a hard time teaching." And they said, "But if you mark them present, then we get the payment from the government for their participation in the school because our real client is the government."

It was a real lesson in how you can be trying to do the right thing and you can be trying to help people and so on. And a government program didn't even care if they had textbooks and the school didn't either. It just mattered that I marked them present so that they could get that big whopping check in their name. And no one got educated.

But as I say, it was in my 20s and it was 10 bucks an hour. And I had to wade through pre Giuliani Times Square to get there. I mean, stepping over. Yeah. Those are some rough years.

She wasn't even born then. Okay, I think I've remembered this song from the kids' preschool. There are five boroughs of New York City, five boroughs of New York City, five boroughs of New York City, and I can name them all. The Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan, don't forget Staten Island, Bronx, Brooklyn.

Brooklyn, Queens, Manhattan. Don't forget Staten Island, too. OK, sorry, I had to get that out. There are only five boroughs of New York City. Yorktown Heights is in Westchester, which is not one of them. AOC. Last point on her.

You know, she's also got the code switching, which really just means fake accents. Mondami, too. Mondami, depending on what audiences he's in front of. He does like his urban accent. He does his Indian accent. He does his more like white feet accent. It depends on who he's in front of. And so does AOC. She she dials up the Puerto Rican, the Latina when she's in front of the right group.

And she's really giving me with this like fake origin story, Elaria Baldwin vibes who pretended she's from Spain when she too is from Boston and a very Tony suburb there. I had to resurrect this clip because she also does the fake accent thing. Married life is really nice. You know, it feels different. You know that. So please leave my family in peace.

And let this all play out. We have, um, what is it? Cucumber. Cucumbers. Aceite oliva. Some olive oil. And we have some vinegar. Some vinegar. How you say it?

Remember the Saturday Night Live bit where people would compete to have a Spanish accent? Not to make fun of that accent in itself, but I live in Montana. I could pull off a, hey, buddy, what you doing? We can all pander to whatever group we want to, but

This is an era in America where it's not what you've done that you're proud of. It's what was done to you. And all these people want to pretend that something was done to them and they won't have it and they don't want it done to you. And away tables. Yeah. And it is an upside down way to look at life in a different way.

democratic and economically mobile society. We should be celebrating achievement. We should be celebrating mobility. We should be celebrating education and saving and all of these virtues and building families. And yet we're stuck on this. This is the worst day of my life. And this was the worst year of my life. And this was the time they were me.

And this was a time they were mean to me and this was the time I was unfairly discriminated against. And this concentration on all the insults and difficulties and victimization experiences you've had will get us exactly nowhere. - I know, it's amazing. This Mamdami is a rich, spoiled kid

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Welcome back to the Megan Kelly show. Walter Kern is back with me. Follow his work at his sub stack, Walter Kern, K I R N dot sub stack.com. So Walter, it's pride month. Today's the last day. Thank God. And, um, in New York city, which is always over the top, it's the 55th anniversary of the pride parade. The theme of this year's parade rise up pride in protest. I guess that's against Trump. I don't whatever.

Um, there's been a noted drop in corporate sponsorship, uh, via NBC. They've experienced a dip in about $750,000 in sponsorship. So that's big. Almost a million dollars got clipped because people are not into pride anymore and corporations are having, having to answer for it when they get behind a event like this in which, I mean, so many disgusting things happened. Like the, uh,

A trans person wearing devil horns twerking on a police officer while holding a cross and a sign that reads Mary Magdalene. Turning Point's got this on camera. Let's show it. Listening audience, it's exactly what I just said. It's disgusting. The cop is maintaining his cool. And this obvious man with fake boobs is twerking.

shaking his butt in the face of NYPD's finest, who somehow is maintaining his professionalism. This is disgusting. This is why if I were a member of the LGBTQ community, I would say, please, for the love of God, cancel these proceedings. I'll give you one more before I toss it to you. This is a viewer warning. It's actually really offensive stuff that we're about to play for you to hide the children. It's

church ladies for choice who are singing that God is a dyke. And that's the least offensive part of what you're about to hear. Stand by. Here it is. God is a dyke. And her victoria, killing lid on the floor with God is a dyke.

You know, I don't even want to clarify for you what they were singing, but it's very graphic and it involves oral sex and God. I'm not sure this doesn't really represent the LGB people I know, but they do it every year. So I live in a little town, Livingston, Montana, that has a Fourth of July parade. People come from all around for all over the state. It's usually actually held on the second of July to begin the rodeo.

And for years, children are thrown candy from floats and so on. And about three years ago, a float, usually usually the floats are like Dodge trucks or, you know, representing the local bank or a charity. But a pride float came along and.

It was decorated with a grizzly bear that was down on, no, no, a man who is down on four knees wearing, I guess what you would call a kind of dungeon outfit, you know, leather straps and so on. And there was a grizzly bear standing behind him, a person in a grizzly bear costume, having anal sex with him, simulating anal sex with him for the kitties. And

Outside of any other judgment, it was not something kids wanted to see or needed to see in a parade. I don't know if they threw candy from that float. If they had, I would have warned people maybe not to eat it. But the whole thing got out of control. It got to a point where it was about competitive shock, competitive offensiveness.

And now, for some reason, I don't know why, a little sanity has floated down from heaven and we are, you know, pulling back on it as a corporate giant funded affair. It will go on, I'm sure, as an expression of self, you know, you know,

Self-realization on the people who have all kinds of ways of thinking about themselves and their sexuality. But I think it's demotion is is welcome, frankly, because I can't think any other month that is about this kind of thing and which is.

willing to shock children at this level. I mean, if we're not going to... I know a lot of lesbian and gay people, a lot. I've spent my entire life in New York State and most of the adult life in either Chicago or New York City. They don't behave like this. They're as disgusted by this behavior as you and I are. They're not like... Look at this one. This is from...

Hold on a second. I want to pull it up. Lesbians in Washington Square Park in Manhattan exposing their breasts with little girls right there. Like show your tits off to the under five set. That'll be super fun. This is absurd.

Way to bring a bad reputation to lesbians everywhere. Then you go up a little north of New York to Toronto. You know, we've got Canadian Debbie here to bring to bring us what's happening in Canada. It's not good there. The activists are walking around completely naked at their pride parade. We had to blur it. Well, it came to us blurred, but totally naked male activists.

dudes walking down the street and people are clapping. People have brought the family to stand and clap at the ding-dongs walking down the streets of Toronto. And that is supposed to make us want to embrace, you see, the LGBT community, Walter.

First of all, I wouldn't want to see a straight pride parade. OK, I don't know that the celebration of a bold sexuality in the streets is something that we need to do in general. Straight pride parade in which guys with, you know, offensively exaggerated sex organs are taking on pneumatic Sanchez like, you know, Bezos brides, you know,

in their undies, I wouldn't want to see that either, to be honest. So I don't know what it really has to do with LGBTQ. It just, the bedroom as a public spectacle and especially the bedroom, which involves a lot of straps and harnesses and other things, isn't one thing that I want to walk out my door and see. And I thought the whole idea of gay rights was to bring being, you know, having a different sexuality to parody, right?

To equal in some ways, legally, at least, and culturally, even the, you know, heterosexual so-called norm that preceded it. But this isn't doing that because this isn't something that I ever saw heterosexuals doing. So they didn't.

Like, why does it have to be? What you're really saying is being gay or lesbian, we'll put trans to the side for now, means you're a deviant. Like, you want, like, truly, like,

deviant, gross behavior around you all the time. You really want to show off your ass and your vag and your breasts to children. That's a lie. That's, this is what kind of parade you'd put on if you were a bigot and you wanted to unfairly represent the LGB community, right? This is what I would put on if I wanted to smear them, make everyone loathe them and not want to support them. But they put these on themselves.

Well, maybe the point has been proved. Is there such a thing as having proved your point and moving on? I mean, you know, and the circus element of it is one thing. But the fact is that legally and in many other ways, these rights battles have been won.

And there is a new set of laws and set of sensibilities and sensitivities in society. Can the point now be proved so that we can move on to something more, I don't know, aesthetically pleasing, less divisive, more peaceful, less confusing to children and just generally, uh,

I don't know, more civilized. Of course, there was the

piece showing Zoram Mamdami jumping up and down while holding a trans flag at the New York City Pride Parade, hanging out with Tish James just to put that cherry on top of the sundae. I want to end with this. There is a reporter who says he writes for the New York Times, NBC, The Washington Post, The Atlantic, The Guardian, among other places. I guess he went to Columbia. He mentions that here.

Says he's a health and science reporter and his name is Benjamin Ryan, who tweeted out this Pride Month. Misgendering is cruel and rude, no matter how many edge cases or straw man arguments people cannot come up with to try and assert otherwise. In response to which I said the following and I stand by it and I want you guys to remember it.

It is not rude or cruel to say what's real and true or to refuse to participate in another person's delusion. Going along with preferred pronouns is dangerous. It forces us to seed entire arguments about who can play in which sporting event, disrobe in which locker room, and enter into which prison before we've even made our case.

preferred pronouns are meant to dull our sentence, our senses to get us accustomed to the gender bending lies we're being told. It's an effort to override instincts that are there for good reason, including for women, their own safety. It can literally be a matter of life and death for a girl to learn, to listen to her own instincts about when a man is present, teaching her to force herself to lie about that is teaching her to dull her gift of fear.

Don't let a man like Benjamin tell you that you're rude or cruel if you stand up for reality, as well as your your daughters and all of our daughters safety. There's my pride month message. Walter, a pleasure, sir. As always, see you soon. Thank you. All right. We're back tomorrow with our friends from National Review and more on the Diddy verdict. Watch. It's on. See you then. Thanks for listening to the Megyn Kelly show. No BS, no agenda and no fear.

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