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"Shane Gillis"

2025/5/26
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Sean Hayes: 我一直对传统办公室工作感到抗拒,因为我从小就梦想着能避免那种生活。我努力成为一名演员,就是为了摆脱朝九晚五的束缚。我更喜欢自由和创造性的工作,而不是被困在办公桌前。我意识到每个人都有自己的选择,但我很庆幸自己选择了不同的道路。 Will Arnett: 我理解 Sean 的想法,但我认为工作是生活的一部分,我们都需要找到自己的位置。虽然我可能没有像 Sean 那样强烈的抵触情绪,但我确实也经历过职业上的起伏。重要的是找到自己热爱的事情,并为之努力。 Shane Gillis: 我最初想成为一名历史老师,但后来我发现自己更喜欢单口喜剧。虽然这两种职业截然不同,但它们都让我有机会与人交流,分享我的观点。我喜欢在舞台上表演,也喜欢在课堂上讲课,这都是我表达自己的方式。

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Shane Gillis shares his journey from washing dishes and bombing at open mics to performing in arenas. He discusses the unexpected path to success and the challenges of fame, including imposter syndrome and the pressure of performing.
  • Unexpected career path from history teacher to successful comedian
  • Early struggles and bombing experiences
  • Performing in arenas versus smaller clubs
  • Dealing with pressure and expectations of fame

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You know what the key is to these cold opens? You just start talking and stuff just tumbles out of the mouth. It's halfway interesting. Go ahead, Will, give it a shot. Just start yammering. Oh, man. Tax season this year really got me in knots. But I...

That's pretty good. Thanks, man. That's pretty good stuff. You think that's good? Wait till there's all new Smartless. Nice. Welcome to Smartless. Will, where are you?

I'm at home now. I know. Why did you switch places? Because I was at my office because they were doing work here. Oh, that's right. Oh, that's right. Remember the office, Sean? Yeah, that was extraordinary. Yeah, that lasted for just one recording. And now he's away from that work site. Ugh.

You know, it's so funny. You just have such a funny thing. Don't make me go deep on this. Your thing about work that you think that you go to office. Hey, I'm actor Jay. My new role is work. Again, I grew up, I did everything I could to not do that. Right. Yeah, yeah. You don't want to sit behind a desk. Yeah. Yeah. Right? That's my dad. I mean, God bless him. Yeah, but we all sit behind desks during the day.

Right? We did everything. Not Will. Not me. Will sits on the couch and he watches the Toronto Maple Leafs win. I sure do. That's all he does. Oh, look at that. I'll tell you who captures the camera real well is that Brendan Shanahan. He sure does. When they point that camera at him up in that power box. Yeah. Oh.

I know. He's stuck there looking like the boss he is. He's turned into a real silver fox, hasn't he? Yeah, Cameron loves him. By the way, he's going to call me and be like, what do you mean silver? You've got gray hair. He's a silver fox in a power box. I know. How about the time that he tried to teach Sean? Sean asked Shani when he was in town last year to teach him how to fight at the Beverly Hills Hotel out the back door. Yeah.

And Sean went at him. And Shani's like, okay, well, what? And Shani's laughing. In two seconds, yeah. In two seconds, he grabbed his shirt. And he grabbed his shirt. Yeah, and Sean was saying, wait, aren't you supposed to take this off me? Isn't the shirt supposed to come off? I thought it was Shorts Against Skins. No, I thought we were doing Shorts Against Skins. I'm always Skins.

By the way, in high school, didn't you fear? Well, hey, Will, in high school. Sean, that hurts. Now you're on board. Thank you, Sean. In high school, didn't it freak you out or junior high when the coach would say, okay, we're going to do shirts and skins and like in basketball. I didn't want to take my shirt off. I was always afraid of that. It's traumatizing. Why do they do that to kids? And then they made us take showers and like 12, 13 years old. I'm like, I don't want to do that.

I know. It's so... Will likes walking around with his kid off, just kind of shaking his junk all over the place. I never went to... I never stepped foot into a gym until I was about 24. So I was never like... Oh, really? Yeah, ever. Yeah, but you played sports. I played sports, but I was... I just never... And then... But I went to boarding school, so I had to take showers, you know, starting at age 20.

Yeah, it's so like I can't. Yeah, it's weird. I went to camp once. I think I said this. And we had a lineup outside, a music camp, Blue Lake Fine Arts Camp in Michigan. Not a sports camp. No. Huh. Hang on. Let me just adjust everything I know about you. Yeah.

And they made us line up outside to take a shower in front of, and one by one, we had to take a shower. And you had to like take your clothes off in front of all of these kids, your peers. And it was so awful. Sean, when I was in seventh grade, age 12, I went from living with my folks to a place where they had

four showers per side in a big, huge open room with no divider. Yeah, that's weird. That's a torture. Yeah, it's awful. And by the way, by the time I got in the camp thing, by the time I got up there, all the hot water was gone. So I was taking a cold shower and I couldn't breathe because it was so cold. If I'm being honest, you probably needed it. LAUGHTER

You're showering with all those dudes. I mean, that probably helped. Just get things back to normal. Anything to calm me down. Oh, my God. What do you got? Some electrolytes going there, Sean, this morning? I do, yeah. What happened to the milk? Is the cow dead? No, I had milk already.

Oh, you're chasing it with some electrolytes? Good luck on the toy toy. What are you... Jesus, you're so obsessed with people's bell. Well, I just... He's creating a bomb. That electrolyte's going to cut right through that milk like a knife. Is it really? Yeah. Is it really? Yeah, dude. Whenever I see people eating... Get yourself over a toilet within the next 60 minutes.

I'm never thinking about... Well, let's wrap this up. Whenever I see people eat, I'm never thinking about, man, that's really going to come back to haunt them on the toilet. It just doesn't occur to me. You know, when I see clips of that hot sauce talk show, that's all I think about. I know, same. What are these people doing? Same. Are you out of your mind? No, they should do it from a toilet. Yeah.

You won't catch me on that show. No, of course not. Not once. No, no, no. Of course you won't. Whose guest is it today? Do you have a narcoleptic guest or something, Will? Let's get to it. Well, he's a great guest, and I was about to get to it, and then I was thinking about you talking about shitting everywhere. But our guest, the only thing, he hasn't shit everywhere. All he's done is he's scored everywhere. This guy has been making everybody laugh. That's another word for it. He has been... Ron Jeremy on smart TV.

shit themselves. He makes me shit myself laughing. He's so fucking funny. He's such a great dude. I had the pleasure of kind of getting to know him over the last couple months. He's been very generous as I was going through the process.

on our film and he has just been, his specials have been unbelievably well received. He's maybe the biggest touring comic out there. Wow. His new, his show, Tires, is about to start second season on June 5th. He's a great writer. He's an incredible stand-up. He's the funniest dude. Guys, it's Shane Gillis. Oh!

Shane Gillis, you're on Smart List. Good morning. Hello. I love you. This is so cool. Easy, Sean. Easy, easy. Yeah, so funny. Hi, Shane. Hi, Shane. Where do we find you today? Are we at home?

I am at home. I'm in Austin, Texas. All right. And how is it in Austin? It's all right. It kind of sucks. It's hot and humid. Hot already? I don't love it. I don't love it. Yeah, it's hot. It's been hot. It's going to be hot until December. Wow.

It's one of the worst places I've ever lived. Do you ever jump in that river that they call a lake and cool off a little bit? Yeah, that's very nice. Why do they call it a lake? I'm not sure. It snakes around like a river, right? It's literally the Colorado River. I don't know. They call it a lake. I have no idea. Oh, I didn't know that. I didn't know that either. Is that something that happens down there? Yeah, it's just the Colorado River. Yeah. And it doesn't even look like a lake. It's just a river. Yeah.

There's nothing like about it at all. You could throw a rock across it. Wait, so Shane, you live there by choice? I mean, it sounds like you hate it. It sounds like you're being forced. Is there somebody off camera with a gun? Yeah, Joe Rogan. He's right here. He's got a gun to my head. He's down there, right? Yeah, he's down here. And he opened a club here. And it was either for a comedian. It's either New York, L.A., or...

That was always the only two options. And then he opened a club here so you can, you know. Oh, that's great. You can evade some taxes and do stand-up here. Now, he was a stand-up, right? And then I remember he was on one of the greatest shows ever, News Radio. So he was an actor for a minute, right? But he did start a stand-up, didn't he? He's still doing it. I mean, he's done stand-up the entire time. And remember Fear Factor? He did Fear Factor. Oh, that's right. He used to watch that. Fear Factor.

So Shane, I first met Shane at Joe's Club in Austin. Oh, no way. Yeah, I went down there and he was kind enough and gracious enough to let me have twice, have like 10 minutes of his time on stage. All right, Shane, give us a review on Will. No, you don't have to. Yeah, no, I want to hear it right now. No, it's going to be...

Will doesn't want to hear it because it's flattering. Well, that's what I thought. I was like... So they asked me to help write on this, write some for the movie. And I was like, if I write any material that's good, I need to... You're going to keep it. Because I have nothing. Sure. So I was like, the only way to do it is just to actually do stand-up. So...

He came down and we did stand up and I was like, he's going to fucking bomb. This is a lot harder than he thinks. And he was so naturally funny right away. I was in the back of the room like, God damn it. He does have, Will, you do have that natural, and I mean, not as a pejorative, this sort of this ham gene, right? Like you are comfortable-

with the spotlight on you. You're comfortable giving a toast. You're comfortable. I don't have that. I don't like the spotlight on me. I don't like a lot of attention. Will, you're comfortable with it and it puts the audience at ease. Yes, and it's a gift. It's talent. Shane, you have it too. Here's the difference. I hemmed my way and hawed my way through it.

Shane getting up there is so natural and good. And I know you've been working on it and you've crafted it, but you've got such a great way about you on stage. And you kind of... You bring... What I love is you kind of bring the audience in with you. And you laugh and you... I don't know. You kind of like... You don't really like take sides. You kind of like...

you play to a wide, you play to different parts of what people, and you get to kind of just what's funny. So no matter where you land on any subject, you're like, you got to admit that's funny, whether you're talking about politics or whatever it is. And I'm sure that that's not, I'm sure it's, that's something, that's a skill, right? Like that's,

to be able to do that, that's something you kind of work on? I mean, I think it's kind of, I mean, yeah, it's a skill, I guess, but it's also like, that's kind of how I feel most of the time, you know? Like, I don't, I don't like picking a side on, I don't know, publicly picking a side on an issue typically comes back to make you look like a fucking idiot. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, unless it's like a glaring thing that you should support, whatever. Yeah. Uh,

But I want to go back to the Austin thing. So the first show we went up and it was fine. The second show we did like an hour later, it was great. And it was really frustrating how good you were at it. Oh, with Will? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And he was reading a script and it was still funny. He's using your material. No, he wasn't. They did it themselves. In fact, I read the material first and I was like,

I don't think this is going to fucking work. So wait, so what type of... I didn't want to say anything. What was Will's style? Was he like telling stories or was he kind of going joke to joke to joke? It was more storytelling, but it was exactly how I like the stand-up. It was stories with jokes with...

Jokes within it, which was... Do you remember any of it, Willie? Or have you deleted the files? Can you give us a taste? No, well, a lot of it, as Shane knows, he read it because a lot of it is stuff that we use in the film. So we're working on it. So it's various stages of... Yeah, because we didn't say it. This is the film that you just shot and that's coming out later this year. What's it called, Will, the film? Is This Thing On. Is This Thing On. Yeah. Is This Thing On. We can get that at a later date when I'm the guest on the show. Yeah.

Are you going to book yourself? No, sorry. No, go ahead, Shane. Sorry. No, we were laughing. I was just at the Cellar this week and we were laughing because there's a comedian there. His name is Will Silvance. And Will's playing a character on stage. And after the show, he goes on with the comedian and asks questions about the set. And I think he took the set very seriously. It was like...

man, I'm really sorry you're going through all that. Oh, really? No, it's a script, you idiot. He did the first time I did New Joke Monday over there around the corner with him. And he comes up on stage and he asks you questions. And he was like, like Shane said, he was like, ah, it sounds really rough. And I just kind of answered him as if it was all real. And he's like, hang in there, buddy. Yeah, yeah. And we will be right back. ♪

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I should be like that, and I'm not. Okay. I got to work on that. I got to go back to only thinking about stand-up. Okay. For real? Yeah. I mean, otherwise, I don't know. You feel like you're not coming up with any new material. Well, then how do you do what you do? Do you set aside some time to really focus on work?

No, I don't really write that much. I just kind of, I go, this could be a good idea, and then I go on stage and try it. And if I get it, great. So you just figure it out on stage, and it's all straight improv that you haven't really worked on any of it? No, I mean, yeah, you do that for like, I'll do, if I did stand-up tonight, I would do basically 10,

that I know I know I just know every word to it and then I maybe try five minutes and see what happens and uh probably abandon it and then have one of my friends in like four or five months go hey that was a funny idea and then I'll try it again and so when you're putting together an hour like to do to do a Netflix special like uh

You know, are you... Is that something, like, that they set the date for and they go, hey, man, we need you to deliver this special by this date, and so then that's when you kind of hone in and start working on actual stuff, or...? I think they do that sometimes. I told them I didn't really... I wouldn't want a date on it, maybe, 2026, because I got to...

Right now I'm doing arenas, and I don't think the best way to work an hour out is in an arena because it's just different. I don't know. I think I'll do arenas for maybe the rest of this year and then go down back to clubs and really try to focus on...

Hammering out the hour that I'm doing right now. I don't want to rush it especially when did you when did you start? I love I mean, you've got so much good stuff that you talk about growing up I love all that stuff about going to Notre Dame games with your family When you guys get in the van together and all that stuff You've got such rich and your cousins and your and your you know, your family You've just got such great rich stuff when I

What was the first moment? This is like the question, like, how did you start in comedy? But like, when did you start going like,

"Oh, the stories that I'm telling about my family or the shit that's going on, people are laughing enough that I should go to a club and tell it in front of other people." Like, what was that? Yeah, I was washing dishes at my friend's restaurant, and I always thought I was funny, and I just had no idea how to get into stand-up. And then one of the cooks was like, "I'm gonna go to open mic at the Harrisburg Comedy Zone tonight." And I was like, "Oh, you can just do stand-up?" And he was like, "Yeah." So I went and I watched.

and I thought everyone sucked, and I was like, I can do that. And then I went back every week for like two months just watching, and then I finally got on stage, and I fucking bombed. I was like, I don't have to write any material. I'm just funny. I just got up there and couldn't talk. It was crazy how bad it was. Right, right. Yeah, and then...

stopped for a while after that traumatic experience, but I always still wanted to do it. And then eventually I went back and really applied myself and tried and did it. And was there, were you, were you, were you studying to do anything, anything else? Like, was it, was this always the career plan or were you, did this, did this derail something, uh,

Something else? No, it wasn't really great. I was at Westchester University in Pennsylvania. I was studying to become a history teacher. Oh, yeah? Wow. I remember the first show I ever did. The first time I ever went on the road, it was a hotel outside of Pittsburgh in Mars, Pennsylvania. And it was in like a hotel lobby. And I bombed so badly that the club owner took me aside and was like,

what are you doing with your life? And I was like, I'm a college student. I'm studying to be a history teacher. He was like, why don't you just do that instead of stand-up? I was like, all right, man. I kind of took it to heart. Were you done with your set yet? Yeah, exactly. I swear to God, it was in between shows. I still had another set. That's really funny. I had to go up there like, this might be it. This is my retirement. You know who loves history? Oh.

Our host, Will Arnett. Yeah. Specifically World War II history. What's your favorite? You like the European or the American? He knows it all, man. Right, Shane? You know it all. Well, I don't know. I don't know.

I like World War II. I like American Civil War. It's great. Yeah, right. Have you seen both the Civil War documentary and the World War II documentary that Ken Burns did? I love them both. Yeah, yeah. I like the Civil War one. I like it better. It's so powerful. The West. Vietnam is great. His Vietnam documentary was great. Yeah. Yeah, because I didn't know shit about Vietnam. I remember. What did you say about the Ken Burns documentary? You said that it's literally kryptonite for women.

If you put it on, they're going to fall asleep. I remember you used to talk, the other thing that really made me laugh, you used to talk about that dude Shelby Foote, that historian, and the way that he would, right? I did a bunch of Ken Burns material in my SNL monologue, and everyone was kind of like, what the fuck is he talking about? That was it. That was it. That was hilarious. It was recent, right? Yeah.

Yeah, every time my monologue doesn't go great on SNL, I'm 0 for 2 on those things. I loved it. I loved it, too. I like it. Look, I like it, and I'm having fun up there. But it was... Tate McRae was the musical guest, so the audience was like...

20-year-old chicks just in the front and I'm up there talking about fucking Shelby Foote and Ken Burns and Civil War. And they had no idea. Literally. Just some ogre walked out onto the stage and talked about Shelby Foote. They were probably scared. You literally referenced the Battle of Fredericksburg. Shrek, yes.

Hey, so with such a drastic, like, are you happy with where you're at? Like, you find yourself at the top of your career in this particular field, which is drastically different than this other path that you thought you would be on. Like, have you adapted? Like, are you digging it? Right. I don't know. You guys probably know what it's like. It's kind of uncomfortable. Yeah.

There's definitely some weird parts to it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's pretty uncomfortable, you know, with the imposter syndrome and depression and all that, but... You know, I just...

I just drink a lot, so that helps. Yeah, that'll round the edges. That really fucking makes things easier, you know? Right, but we all have the option to just sort of get off the highway and hide, I guess. And everyone forgets about you after a few years anyway, so we could find anonymity if we wanted it. Right. Like, did you have that moment? I remember when you take...

in your case, stand-up gigs or specials or whatever. In my case, it was a sitcom. And you... This guy! We love that show!

It was the first time that it started. I took it because it was a job, right? You audition, you're just looking for a job. And then you have no idea what's going to happen. You're just looking to feed yourself and then you become famous. Right. By accident almost, right? You just kind of want to work as an actor. It's not like, I want to be famous. I just want to work. And then it happens. And then in the moment, I remember thinking, I'm like, oh, this is what...

This is what I read about. This is what I watch TV and this happens. So did that happen to you in that moment? Do you remember that moment where you're like, oh shit, this is what it feels like to kind of become successful? Yeah, there was definitely some moments along the way. I mean, hosting SNL when I did that, that was one of those moments because I had gotten fired from the show before and I was like, oh, I just wanted to do it.

Yeah, for four days. Yeah. Oh, my God. Really? For four days? Yeah, I remember seeing when they announced that you were going to host...

and it must have been kind of surreal considering the history you had. It was, I don't know, but it was like, oh, great, we're going to go through this again. There was pressure because once they announced it, everyone's like, fuck him, don't let him back. And it's like, I was fine without it. I was, you know, I'm doing all right. But it was still awesome, and I was so happy they let me back on. And those people, everybody there has been amazing.

They've been awesome. But it was funny. Back to the original, the question was those moments. I was with my friend, Dan Soder. He's one of the best comedians. Super funny dude. His name's Dan Soder. I love him. He's unbelievably funny. Yeah.

But he was like one of the first people to take me on the road. And then he and I were doing an arena. We were doing like the Cleveland Cavaliers Arena. And I was standing in the tunnel before I went out there. And I looked at him and I was like, dude, I really just wanted to do a one-nighter at the local comedy club. I thought that was the ceiling. I don't know what the fuck this is. Hotel lobby would be nice. I'm like, oh, I got here. Right. This has gotten out of hand. Yeah.

Wow. And did you have, and so you have that moment before. And if you, do you still have moments on stage where it kind of out of body where like you, you, you land a joke and the place is going crazy and you're standing and I'm sure you're caught up in it, but you go, you look out and there are literally tens of thousands of people laughing and going like, holy fuck. Yeah. Yeah.

Usually that happens when the joke doesn't land. Silence is even louder. There's fucking 20,000 silent people and you're standing there going, oh, fuck. That's much more powerful, yeah. That's a real powerful moment. Well, you know, one of the interesting things about, that I found in the, just the short amount of time that I did it, just in the small clubs over at the Underground and at the Cellar, rather, and at the one time in Austin is that

Like I went, we went one night and we were working on something and we went to the cellar in that main room downstairs and it went great. We're like, holy shit, that really worked. And then we went around the corner to the underground 20 minutes later and it was like pretty good.

it was the same material yeah delivers and it was pretty good right it was a big room and then we went to the uh fat black cat next door and it was absolutely bombed and i remember at the time my buddy bradley was there and my buddy bob who you met and they were in the back and they're dying laughing because literally the same material that 30 minutes ago had killed

Yeah, yeah. It's the best feeling in the world watching one of your friends bomb. There's nothing better. It's the most fun possible thing. But yeah, that happens. And it happens, but what's crazy in that feeling was...

which was like, oh, it's just you. There's nowhere to hide. You can't... You're just up there. You can't just go... You can't start crying and drop the microphone and run off stage. You know what I mean? But talk about that, you guys. Because like...

I think an actor can ruin a good script and they can also make a bad script good just based on performance, whether it's good performance or bad performance. Do you find that it's the same way with...

with with with stand-up like in your case well that you had the same material three different places how much of it do you think was the audience or or was it you in the different way in which you were telling a joke i i don't know i don't have enough experience to to really answer that in that moment i have to blame the audience just to maintain my self-esteem but but but shane shane you have a lot more years of experience i mean what do you what do you think it is

Like, are there bulletproof jokes? You know, like any, you know. To get him back. There should be. And you think you have one.

Like a good example is the cellar is a perfect example because it's like four different rooms. And so like I would do, there was one night I did the Village Underground, which is a great room downstairs. It's one of my favorite rooms in the country, but I killed. I was doing, it was crazy how, I couldn't believe how good it was. And then I was on next upstairs. So I literally walked off stage and walked on stage upstairs. And in your head, you're like, oh, I just...

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Are you doing any acting at all? How's that? Well, he's got his show. He's got a second season of his show, Tires, that he created. Oh, great. Okay, gotcha. How do you like that where the words, you've got to fit the words as opposed to the words have to fit you when you're doing stand-up? I don't mind it. I really like acting, especially on Tires because that's just me and my friends and...

It's all just our friends, so we can kind of fuck around and you don't really have, you know, you can improv a little on that. Gotcha. I do have some kind of real acting coming up in a couple weeks, and I'm pretty nervous about that. We'll see how that goes. Oh, can you tell us what it is? Not that my show is not real.

I don't know if I can tell you, so... Okay, no worries. But it's material that you haven't written and you can't improvise, so you've got to study these lines, learn these lines, and play your character in such a way where it makes sense that these lines come out of that mouth, right? I mean, it's a different... Yes, and it's a serious director. Yeah, it's scary. And it's with real actors, and that's going to be...

I'm not... I mean, not relaxed. I'm not like shitting on my friends. But yes, you are. Yeah, you are. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this one's real. It's not that bullshit. What does your family think about... Because you talk about your family sometimes in your stand-up and you're obviously really close to them. What's their reaction been to all of it? Are they like caught up in the whirlwind? Are they...

Are they freaked out? Yeah, it took them a while. Yeah, they weren't on board for a long time. And then, especially early, like I did a YouTube special. It was like the first thing I put out. And in it, I talk about my sister...

and her addiction. They're like, I talked about my sister doing heroin on a YouTube special and she was like, what the fuck? I was like, trust me. Trust me. It's going to work for us. Just hang on. Trust me, it's going to pay off for me. It's going to pay off for me. Yeah.

All right. Oh, my God. No, she got an apartment and a Chevy Cruze out of it. She's all right. Okay, sure. Chevy Cruze. There you go. How do you like life on the road? How do you like, you know, what is that like from a social standpoint? I'm sure you're not meeting a lot of new friends out there. You know, like what's dating like and all that kind of stuff. Were you married? I'm not married. I have a girlfriend. She lives here with me in Austin.

She comes on the road sometimes if it's like a cool venue. Yeah. She'll come. Like this weekend, I'm going to... Tomorrow, I got to go to Knoxville, Tennessee, and then Birmingham, Alabama. So I think she's going to sit this one out. Okay. But...

She's not coming. How do you get your... Because when you're not in the mood, you're set to go on at a certain time. It's kind of like Broadway or theater or whatever. You can't have a headache. You can't have a stomachache. You can't have like... You have to go on. You have to deliver, right? So how do you get by that? Like how do you prepare yourself if you're not feeling...

And Jason also has a follow-up question for sure. What happens when you have to take a shit depending on what you eat? Jason, we'll get to that in a second. Because if you haven't emptied, you know, you got to... The shit goes away right away. It does. The adrenaline, the adrenaline of the stand-up, the shit goes away. The headache goes away. The nausea, like, because I've done shows, a lot of shows hungover. And I've been like, oh, this is going to be terrible. And then as soon as you get on stage, it...

it cares it yeah yeah isn't that interesting other than one i had one show i did uh crypto arena in la and it was i did the forum the night before it was the best week ever i did the greek the night before then the forum then crypto wow it was incredible but after the forum i'm buddies with post malone and he came to the show we're hanging out and he's it's like 2 a.m after the show i have to do crypto in the morning but he was like

do you want to come to my studio and listen to my new album? And I was like, yeah, definitely. So then he kept us there and we drank till like 6 a.m. And the whole time I was looking at my watch like, oh shit. So then I wake up and it's,

I wake up at like 4 p.m. The car is outside to take me to my next show. And I was like, all right, this hangover will go away. I've done this a million times. The hangover just didn't go away on stage. And I kind of fucking bombed at Crypto. Oh, really? Oh, no. Yeah, it was like the biggest show of my life. Did you let the crowd know? They could see it. There was a jumbo drone on my face. They could smell it. They could see it.

They can smell it on the jumpers. They can smell light beer. So Shane, do you have anything like, you know, for endurance when you perform on stage? Like, do you work out? Like, how do you keep up your energy?

I literally just started a trainer. I'm on week two. I got to go to that today. Good for you. Yeah, I saw some photos and I was like, all right, it's time to. Yeah. How do you like that, an appointment for working out?

I need it. Otherwise, I would, you know, after this, I would go, well, that was tough. That was a long day. I'm going to take a nap. Right. I'm kind of the same way. Well, Sean, I was going to say, and Shane, I'll pose it to you too. You know, obviously,

Diet is such a huge thing, like the things that you put in. And Sean, we always say, Sean eats like he's going to a 12-year-old's birthday party every meal, every day. It's true. It's true. Right, Sean? Yeah, yeah, it's true. What have you had so far today, if anything? Well, it's so funny you say that. I did have a Pop-Tart, but then after... I'm just saying...

I really did, but then I had yogurt with berries because I was like, I have to balance it with something. You have to offset it. But my brain works in the way that, well, I did that so I can have spaghetti for lunch. Right. Do you have dessert at lunch? You do, don't you? Sometimes I do. But JB, we'll play golf and he'll be like, hey, can I just get a couple slices of apples and a handful of nuts, please? And then that's all he'll eat. I'm not even exaggerating. That's what he'll have.

And I said to him one time, I said, you know what? You're doing all this, eating nuts and the thing, and you're still, you're gonna fucking die at 65 and I'm gonna be standing at your hospital bed eating a sundae with 30 years to go.

You know what I mean? But I'll look nice and thin there in the box. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. Oh, he died without any water weight. Look at him. Beautiful. Shane, what do you think? So now you're going to go do this serious movie with these serious actors. And again, no offense to your buddies. Hopefully, yeah. Hopefully. Right. Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully. But...

is that for you? Is that the target for you? Is that what you want to do? Are you doing it just because you have opportunity and it's coming at you? Like, where do you see yourself? Do you have a plan for the next five years or are you just like, fuck it, whatever happens, happens? I think it's more, fuck it, whatever happens. I'd like to just kind of work with my friends, kind of, if I could, the goal would probably be like the Sandler, Sandler route, which is just, yeah, putting out movies with me and my friends. Um,

And then stand-up. I'll always... Stand-up's always number one. Yeah. Just stick with that. Would you consider stand-up like...

and your hobby in a way? Like you just love doing it when you have time? Yeah, for sure. People are like, yeah, that's the only thing I do really. People are like, what else do you do? It's like, no, it's kind of it. That's it. So your days are filled with maybe going to the gym with a trainer? Maybe go to the gym, buy the Xbox, then stand up. Sure, sure, sure. Pretty pathetic. What's the current Xbox favorite? Right now, there's...

There's a game called Hell Let Loose that's pretty awesome. It's just a World War II. What's it called? Hell Let Loose. Hell Let Loose. Is there a headset involved with this? There is. People take it very seriously, which is pretty funny. Like, guys, it's like... Are you playing multiplayer? Yeah, it's multiplayer, and guys take it very seriously. It's like a World War II simulation, so there's no radar or anything like it's...

It's very funny. There's guys, like, you'll hear, you'll turn your headphone on, guys will be like, I need ammo on this hill, where are the, where the fuck are you? It's pretty funny. It's really funny. That is. So, that sounds so crazy, and also, how do you spell that? Yeah. No, the game rules. Who are your guys, who are your, did you have stand-up idols, Shane? Yeah.

Or do you? Yeah, it was always Louis and Chappelle. Yeah, for sure. Was it surreal when you started doing it and then you started seeing those guys out in the world? Was that surreal as hell? Yeah, now I'm friends with both of them. It's crazy. I was just in Ohio. I was just at Dave's house two weeks ago. Wow. He built a club and he basically owns the entire town. He does this thing where he brings in

like music to this small town, like an hour outside of Columbus, Ohio, where like I was there a couple weeks ago and it was like Wu-Tang was there. Wow, what? In a tiny 200-seat car.

in an old firehouse in Yellow Springs, Ohio. I mean, it's crazy what he's doing. That's amazing. That's pretty awesome. Do you ever want to do anything like that? Like as you go on to see more and more? Do you want to build your own town? Do you want to do a hip-hop band? I don't think I'm good enough to build a town. I do want to be in Wu-Tang. You're the best, son. I don't smoke weed, but I had to smoke a lot. No, I mean, wouldn't that be cool? I mean, your star is rising so quickly and so great and so...

Do you ever aspire to be like those guys, to have that kind of ability to do things like that? I think that would require a lot of longevity, and we'll see. I think you have it. You're not really bullish on your future, on your mortality right now. It rose too fast, and now people are going to go, all right, that guy, the fucking Bud Light commercial guy, get him out of here.

I fucking love, by the way, I love your Bud Light commercials. I fucking, they're hilarious. I'm not, I'm not fucking joking. They're really funny. What's the one where you're standing behind the guy and they're asking him and then you just start drinking? I'm like, this is funny. It's hard to make a funny commercial, man. It's a very short amount of time. That's a very tough medium. Yeah. We know. We do it too.

Yeah, and you guys did great. Oh, thanks. I don't know. You ever seen that dog shit one that Sean and Jason did? It was fucking terrible. Which one's that? Exactly. Which one's that? They made so many dog shit commercials. I love you, Sean. I love you, JB. You're such a great work partner. Oh, God. You guys are the fucking worst. Shane, listen, man. You're such a great dude. You're such a fucking funny dude. You've been so kind and generous to me personally, so I appreciate it.

Thanks for coming to do this. We wish you all the best. You got Tire Season 2 premieres June 2nd on Netflix. Fifth. Sorry. Is that right? June 5th. Yeah, good for you. Thank you. Sorry about that. June 5th. Now we got to say it a few times. So June 5th on Netflix. You're on tour right now. You're touring like internationally on fucking arenas.

You've got your podcast. You've got a tremendous amount of success. Wish you continued success. You're a great dude, hilarious guy. Shane Gillis, everybody. I'm a big fan of all three of you guys. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Thank you, Shane. Thanks for being here. You're a great dude. Thanks, bro. Thank you. Shane Gillis. He's super fun. That guy's really funny. Yeah, he's got that real chill thing going on where it's just like he's real like he's just a cool guy. He's really low temperature. Yeah, he is. He's really low temperature. He's really cool.

Jamie, remember we watched a bunch of his beautiful dog special at New Year's. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got that really unique delivery that I find really...

it pulls you into a standup where they just, you kind of get into their rhythm. Like that's what I'm saying about Stephen Wright. Like that guy just like, he's like Mike Myers in Halloween, you know, he always walks towards the victim and never runs, you know? Right, right, right, yeah. What a strange analogy, but you're kind of right.

But he does. He pulls you in. He's great. I mean, I've always thought he was so funny. He's like Al Pacino in Godfather 3, right? They just keep pulling you back in. You know what I mean? Godfather 3? Did they make a third one? Godfather 3? Yeah. It's a joke. They keep pulling you back out of his life. Giuseppe loved that one. I love Godfather. Where is number four? We're waiting.

number four. Cuatro. You guys, when you talk like that, you really sound like you speak two languages. Really? What would you call that? What would that make us, Sean? Bilingual. Bilingual. Smart. Worse. Smart. Worse.

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