Democratic Governors Forced To Defend Sanctuary Policies
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Friday, June 13th, 2025. I'm Jessica Rosenthal. It was a busy week in the Beltway with updates on trade deals, health policies, Supreme Court rulings, and immigration enforcement. There's going to be more of a continuing conversation and a fight about these ICE detainers if ICE has something saying, we need to come get this person, but the state or the locality doesn't notify or doesn't hold that person for ICE to get there in time. We speak with the anchor of Fox News Sunday, Shannon Breen.

I'm Grinnell Scott. In just one year's time, the United States, Canada and Mexico will host the 2026 World Cup. But the building of excitement starts right now. This is not going to be just the biggest World Cup in history, just in terms of numbers, 48 teams, three countries. But this is also not going to be the biggest sporting event in history. This is going to be the biggest event in history. We'll chat with U.S. Soccer Hall of Famer and former national team member Alexi Lalas.

And I'm Tevi Troy. I've got the final word on the Fox News Rundown. Tensions flared this week over immigration enforcement as riots erupted on the streets of Los Angeles over ICE agents' arrests. A federal judge in California issued a temporary restraining order Thursday night against the Trump administration, finding the president exceeded his authority in deploying the state's National Guard to Los Angeles. The judge stayed his own ruling until noon today.

Now, before this court hearing, there was a hearing before the House Oversight Committee. Three blue state governors appeared, and during the hearing, Massachusetts Congressman Stephen Lynch compared ICE to the worst of the worst. When you compare the old films of the Gestapo grabbing people off the streets of Poland, and you compare them,

to those nondescript thugs who grabbed that student, that graduated student, it does look like a Gestapo operation. House Oversight Committee Chairman Jim Comer noted it was Minnesota Governor Tim Walz who used that Gestapo term first. Do you and other Democrat politicians understand why

referencing ICE as Gestapo is offensive. And Walz said in his opening statements, his constituents are angry. They're angry that the federal government has been snatching people up, putting them in prison and deporting them. New York Republican Congresswoman Elise Stefanik asked New York Governor Kathy Hochul about a number of different illegal alien names and if she knew of the crimes they'd committed in her state. I'm not familiar at this moment.

I bet you're going to be familiar when I remind you, he found a sleeping woman on the subway, lit her on fire and burned her alive. This is in Kathy Hochul's New York. ICE issued an order to detain this violent criminal, but that was rejected by New York officials due to sanctuary state laws.

Hochul insisted New York law enforcement does cooperate with ICE, even after Stefanik read part of the sanctuary state's policy out loud. In all of these cases, we would work with ICE to remove them. You did not in this case. They are walking on the streets because of your policies and your executive order that you signed three times.

Governor Walz also said that when it comes to immigration enforcement, that's the job of the federal government, reminding us of what seems like a never-ending fight between states and the federal government on this issue. Remember that Arizona law, SB 1070, that was fought all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court?

And basically, when states and localities were trying to get involved in the business of immigration enforcement, they were told by the Supreme Court, nope, this is a federal purview. We spoke with Fox News Sunday anchor Shannon Bream Thursday. This is the feds get to do this. They get to show up. They get to enact immigration laws and enforcement. That was under the Obama administration. Well, now the Trump administration is trying to show up and do that, saying,

The states and localities aren't doing it. And in this case, they don't want to do it now. And so now the shoe was on the other foot. And you've got the Fed saying, we do want to come in and do enforcement. And the Supreme Court has told us that's our job and we can do it. So these governors are really pushing back a

lot of the language has been we're not a sanctuary state. We don't have an official policy. But what, you know, the Trump administration will argue from the DOJ on down is, listen, if you're getting in the way of what we're trying to do, if you're telling people come here, you'll have a, quote, safe haven or a place where we will not assist. In fact, we may take policies that make it more difficult for ICE and for the feds to actually do the work that they lawfully have to do.

You know, their critics will say that equates to some kind of sanctuary. Even if you don't want to call it that in practice in many places, you could argue that's what it's turned into. And there are plenty of examples. I mean, at least Stefanik went through them at the hearing saying, you know, and Jim Jordan, too, that there have been multiple examples of people who've been assaulted, kidnapped.

killed by illegal immigrants where those people were released and they could have continued to have been detained. So it's like the, okay, you didn't interfere, but you didn't help. That's the line also.

Yeah, and so there's going to be more of a continuing conversation and a fight about these ICE detainers if ICE has something saying, we need to come get this person, but the state or the locality doesn't notify or doesn't hold that person for ICE to get there in time. We also have these cases of a couple of judges who are accused of allegedly helping people to actively evade ICE detainees.

when there were accusations or charges pending against them. So it'll be interesting to watch those play out because those judges have some very serious potential consequences that they're facing if the allegations prove to be true.

Other big news of the week, we have a framework really for a deal with China. It sounds like it's not necessarily officially done done, but certainly a continuation of what they had talked about in Geneva in May. I'm curious, though, Shannon, the president says it's 55 percent level of duty on goods imported from China. That's still that's still pretty hefty, right? I mean, I imagine that impacts quite a few American businesses. Yes.

Yeah, it's a it's backing off of the hundred and twenty five and plus tariffs that we'd heard. So we know the president starts at he swings for the fences on these negotiations. He starts big knowing you're going to get back to somewhere in between. But yeah, that is still when you add that up on various different products, some of them are going to be.

certainly at a premium. But what he'll say and what his supporters will say, which you'll hear from Secretary Besant and others, is that there are worse tariffs against U.S. market goods out there as well. And what they'll argue is they're just trying to level the playing field a little bit. But there's still so many things to nail down in this framework, as you said. One of the big issues is the rare earths. China has, you know, they've got the majority market on that and we need it.

for military operations, for cars, for semiconductor, for all kinds of things. We need those rare earth minerals. So we're told China is going to resume the flow of those. That was one of the things that was kind of a sticking point in Geneva. And then since then, this administration has said they're not doing it. They're slow rolling it. They're not really lifting the, you know, sort of the tamp down on us getting the full flow of those things. So supposedly they've come to a better agreement on that.

But a lot of these things will have to have direct sign-off from President Trump, President Xi, and we're told to not expect that until later in the summer when they really get down to the nitty-gritty details on this deal. And, Shana, the goal of these, right, and we heard this from the president, is eventually to get more stuff made in America, right? That's what these tariffs underneath this all was about. And also to level the playing field, of course. What did you make of, I guess, World Bank economists this week saying –

that they actually sided with the president on this. What are we to make of this? And does that do we think that might carry any weight with other countries if if there are world bodies that start to say, you know what, this guy has a point, right? There should be more equity. Does that carry any weight? I think it must. I mean, I doubt that President Trump was expecting this World Bank kind of endorsement of his argument on tariffs.

But yeah, there was this acknowledgement that, hey, listen, maybe you back off on some of the stuff involving the U.S. Let's work for a global framework that everybody is trading freely. It's benefiting people all over the planet. But those aren't bodies that are ever expected to be super Trump friendly or supportive. So I got to think that when they do it, it actually has some impact in the world's markets, in the world community, as they hear from a body that's not exactly

Maga. About the other deals, because there are, I think, what, 18 other countries that we're trying to talk to? I think the president said, look, it's okay if this takes a little bit more time than we thought. But at the same time, he said, look, we're also going to be sending out letters to these other countries. If you had to guess...

And we're making educated guesses here. Is the timeline like, look, let's, you know, let's just do something this year, like before midterms. Let's get something going here. It's not a big, beautiful bill timeline.

Well, you know, I asked Secretary Lutnick about this a couple of weeks ago. Will there be another extension? Because remember, there was that 90 day extension and then there were some talk of, oh, 90 deals in 90 days. But everybody admits each of these deals is super complex because it's not like you just say, OK, 30 percent on everything coming out of your country.

you got to do the tech sector. You got to do, you know, automobiles. You got to, you're going to, there's so much within every country that you have to do. And it works on both sides that it's got to be our products, their products. So there's so, there's so much complex stuff going on there. But when I asked secretary Letnick, okay, are we going to get another 90 day pause or whatever? He kind of demurred for that. Didn't really want to go there because I think they want these countries to feel the pressure is on. Remember just days ago, they said to them, come to the table with your very best offer.

Like it's time to get down to brass tacks. So they want to be able to say these deals are getting done and they keep hinting that Japan, India, some others are really close. And so they know that it's great for the markets. It's great for consumers and it's great for their PR when you can announce a new deal like we did with the UK.

Yeah. Interesting. OK, let me shift gears with you, because this is a story that I don't know if it's gotten quite enough attention. Robert F. Kennedy Jr. taking out all 17 vaccine advisory panel members and replacing them with eight name new names so far. I know I know.

Senator Cassidy of Louisiana said that he spoke to Kennedy. He said he was concerned, wanted to make sure this panel wouldn't be packed with vaccine skeptics. So I went through the first eight names that we know of. Some don't have a big record of really being anti-vaccine. The ones who've expressed big opinions have mostly been concerned with like mRNA and specifically COVID vaccines. There is one name. It's a nurse and a Ph.D. Dr. Vicki Pebworth who.

She is a deep vaccine skeptic. So it does look like one out of the eight. But this panel, this advisory panel, Shannon,

they make recommendations and their recommendations do not have to be unanimous. How important is this panel? I think it's going to be watched very closely. And you mentioned Senator Cassidy. He's a doctor. He's an M.D. And he was one of the real tricky votes for R.K. Jr. when he was coming through the Senate vetting process. They had a lot of intense conversations and there were worries for Cassidy that he really tried to extract some specific reassurances and promises from Kennedy. So

He's going to be digging through this list in a very, I'm sure, intense way to see what's going on there. But the, you know, the RFK Jr. take had been, and those that support the Maha situation and movement have said, listen, a lot of the people that were on the board had some kind of ties to Big Pharma. They were, you know...

accusing them of not being able to be totally neutral in the way that they felt about these vaccines that were coming out. I think it's interesting. You know, one of the names we have, you know, some other here, Dr. Robert Malone, known as one of the MRNA pioneers. So these people know the stuff.

And it'll be interesting to see how their voices are perceived now that they're going to be weighing on these things. And many of them say not anti-vaccine, but I'd certainly have questions about the COVID vaccine and about the ability of people to be fully informed, have all the information and make their own decisions. So it's definitely going to be a different conversation over there. I think getting rid of all 17 was a little bit of a shock to those who follow these kinds of things, a little bit shocked to the system. But some of

folks that are being added in. I mean, these are people that are Harvard educated, some of them, and top MDs, top pioneers in their fields. So I think that some folks are hopeful it'll be maybe just a different conversation, but that these are fully qualified people who may bring varying viewpoints. Let me get your thoughts before I leave, Shannon, about the

Supreme Court, a bunch of rulings came out Thursday morning. But the one that we're following in particular was this family that said they were wrongly raided by the FBI. They want to sue for damages. They went through a terrible fright, as we can all imagine. And it sounds like the Supreme Court is saying, yes, you can move forward with a lawsuit. What was the holdup in saying that they couldn't?

Yeah, there's some really wonky statutory language about when you can or cannot proceed with these types of lawsuits against government entities. And, man, the facts of this thing would shock any family. When the FBI shows up, wrong address, big raid.

that's a terrifying experience and it wasn't the right place i mean it should be terrifying for bad guys these weren't the bad guys that they were trying to go after and it was really rough on this family so what the court said is essentially in walking through all of the statutory language is there may be something here that this family can pursue damages so we're sending it back to the lower courts so that they can do that so obviously there had been an argument trying to stop them from even pursuing this um potential damage situation and award

But what the court said is, yeah, we see a space here that this family has a claim that could potentially lead to damages against the government. So we're sending it back down with this instruction to the lower courts to let this case proceed. Shannon Bream, thanks so much for your time.

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The U.S. men's national team will be under a very bright spotlight, led by its new coach, Mauricio Pochettino. At his introductory press conference, he pointed to the big stage, saying building to it is a process. We have time. We have time. And we need to really believe in things, in big things. We need to believe that we can win, that we can win not only a game, we can win the World Cup.

Because if not, it's going to be so difficult, the journey. And we want players that arrive on day one in the training camp and thinking big. But the players aren't the only ones Pochettino wants to see thinking big. When Fox Sports brings us coverage starting next June, it's hoped that the stands will be packed to see a competitive brand of soccer played by the U.S. against the usual world powers in the sport.

That's why one year out, the hype begins. It's coming down the pike fast. So the year is going to go like that. Alexi Lalas is a U.S. Soccer Hall of Famer who was a member of the U.S. Men's National Team in 1994, the last time the Men's World Cup was in America. He'll be lead analyst for Fox Sports World Cup coverage. A World Cup in and of itself is a special thing, but a home World Cup is even more special.

It provides opportunity, but it also there's an element of responsibility. And so when it comes to on the field, it's an opportunity, but it's a responsibility for us to harness the power of a World Cup and to do everything that we can. So when that whistle blows, that we put on the best team from an American perspective. And if and when it goes well, it goes well, not just for the individual players and for the team, but it goes well for the country and it goes well for the sport. And that's important.

Off the field, we've got to make sure that we also live up to that responsibility because a lot of people are going to come visit our country and they're going to see our country and, let's be honest, judge our country through the lens of the World Cup. And we've got to make sure that they are able to get here, that they are safe when they are here, and they have a kick-ass experience. This is not going to be just the biggest World Cup in history, just in terms of numbers, 48 teams, three countries.

But this is also not going to be the biggest sporting event in history. This is going to be the biggest event in history if we do this right. And that's a big if right now, but I firmly believe and have incredible confidence both on and off the field this is going to be something the likes of which the world has never seen. You mentioned safety, and that's one thing that I know is going to be...

a focus on everybody's radar because, like you said, a lot of people are coming here. A lot of people are going to be seeing these games. As far as safety and security, we see the kind of level we have at Super Bowls. This is along that parallel.

Yeah, a World Cup is multiple Super Bowls in a row on a consecutive day after day after day for six weeks. You know, when it comes to safety, I am confident. I mean, I was at the White House last month, and that was on a lot of people's minds in making sure that people have a safe experience, making sure that it is as seamless as possible to get here and to enjoy the World Cup. But

This is on our watch. This is going to be a reflection. It's going to be a reflection on our sport. It's going to be a reflection on our leaders. It's going to be a reflection on our country. And so whether you are...

Mayor Karen Bass in Los Angeles, a host city. Whether you are Governor Gavin Newsom, a host state, multiple locations in California. Or whether you're President Donald Trump, the president that is hosting a World Cup in our country.

It is on you, and this is legacy type of stuff. So it behooves all of us to make sure that this goes off well. And that advertisement that goes back to the world is one that is positive. You talk about the quality of teams that are going to be here for this World Cup. Let's start with the U.S., Mexico, and Canada. Mexico, always competitive. Canada, pretty darn good team.

Then there's the U.S. Still, I guess you would see the three question marks there. What are you looking for? You've got the Gold Cup coming up and the U.S. men's team will be in that. What do they have to prove?

Yeah, I mean, I'm not here to gaslight or spin anybody here. I'm here to be honest about what is happening. And while I am incredibly bullish about what the World Cup is, when it comes to this team in this moment, this summer of 2025, I'll be honest, there's a lot of criticism and I think it's fair. If you would ask my 90s self, you know, back in 1994 when we last hosted the Men's World Cup,

What I envisioned for the summer of 2025, a year before again hosting a men's World Cup in 2026, this is not what I envisioned. I would have envisioned us having momentum and being incredibly excited as we head towards the pinnacle here in 2026. But that's not the case when it comes to this team. They've got a lot of work to do. You were talking about the new coach, and that is Mauricio Pochettino. Yes.

What do you see in this team? If you were trolling the sidelines there, what would you be seeing as you watch this? American soccer fans, and I think Americans in general that are sports fans, they know it when they see it. They know it when a team is fighting. And that makes you proud. That makes you excited. That makes you believe that they can do things that people say that they can't do.

Mauricio Pochettino has come in. He's been paid, you know, a rumored $6 million a year. So it's a tremendous amount of money. And this is on him right now to fix this situation and to get the best out of this group. And, you know, to your point,

This is a group that we should expect more because of what they have done, the resources that they have been given, the opportunities that we have worked over time to give them. And I don't begrudge them. I'm actually incredibly proud that they don't have to go through a lot of the crap that previous generations did. But with that now comes an assumption, and with that comes an expectation for them to do things that we haven't done before. There are some who believe in sports that, in a particular sport,

It's better when the usual suspects are good. In football, they will say if the Cowboys are good, if the Steelers are good, the NFL is great. If the Yankees and the Red Sox are good, baseball is great. Is it the same in soccer? Because I remember four years ago when Morocco made their run. That was pretty exciting when somebody comes out of nowhere. Is it different in soccer? There has never been a Cinderella winner of the World Cup.

It's the usual suspects and a very small group. There have been Cinderella stories within a World Cup.

So, you know, when someone like Morocco comes out, everyone perks up because, hey, something magical may be happening. It hasn't happened yet. That would certainly be the case if someone like the United States did something like that. It would be a complete anomaly and an aberration relative to what exists in history. Doesn't mean that it isn't worthwhile to watch because, let's be honest, people do watch these super clubs. People do...

One of the things that is great about some of these superclubs is as many people watch because they want them to lose as watch to want them to win. And there's certainly an element of that when you're talking about some of the great teams in the world. There will be players that rise. There will be teams that within the tournament rise in a Cinderella way in that we didn't predict it to happen. And they kind of just found this magic moment.

But actually winning the World Cup, that would be something above and beyond Cinderella. We'd have to come up with some new word for it. I wanted to ask you about soccer in general in America. You have many leagues. You have the MLS. You have the USL Championship. College soccer is very good in this country. Of course, what the U.S. women's national team has done is far and away above everything else.

Can we say now that soccer has taken root in America? Definitely. Don't let anybody tell you that we're not a soccer nation or a soccer culture. We are. Are we different and unique? Absolutely. I mean, I think it's it's

It's obvious and expected relative to our non-traditional history when it comes to the game. But you just mentioned a bunch of different leagues that have come online. The most successful men's league in North American soccer history with Major League Soccer going into now its 30th year.

The NWSL, I think, is the best women's league in the world. Wonderful other divisions when it comes to USL, and we go on down the line. There is the resources and the pathways that we have right now are night and day to when I was growing up. And those are all good things, but we want more. And we want to be the best because we are America, and we expect the best. But when it comes to soccer, in particular on the men's side, when you're putting it relative to the women's side,

It's been a long slog. We've gotten better. And actually, the rise of soccer in the United States, if you put it up against any country or culture in the world, it's unprecedented in terms of how far we've come. You are a part of the Fox Sports team that will call the games, analyze the games, pick apart everything that we see. But

There's this run-up that's going to be a year-long thing. What can we expect to see? I know you're giving away ice cream at some point. So, yeah, talk about that because that's part of the build-up here. Yeah, I mean, I just turned 55 this year. And obviously I'll be 56 when the World Cup comes back again from a men's perspective. And as the old saying goes, you come a long way, baby, and we have.

Having said that, you know, the spreading the gospel and being the evangelist for sports, for the sport, that's something that never goes away. And it shouldn't because we still need it. And we recognize that the World Cup is a great opportunity to bring people into the soccer tent.

How is U.S. soccer preparing for this? There are I know there's a I believe it's a club World Cup that they're testing venues. And how is that working or how is how is that going to work? So, look, as I always say, men's women's are coed naked. I don't care as long as people are kicking a ball. I will be there. I will talk about it. And.

The world has recognized that the United States now for a number of decades is this incredible opportunity and emerging market of soccer fans. And so they have come time and time again. And they continue to come, including this summer where we have the Gold Cup, which you can see on Fox. But also at the same time going on is the Club World Cup, the FIFA Club World Cup. To your point, it's an opportunity for us to...

Try some different things and a test run, if you will, for next summer. And some things will be learned. There will be wonderful games on the field. And again, people will be exposed to soccer that maybe in normal summers wouldn't have that exposure and that continual exposure that's going on.

The run-up begins now. Alexi Lawless is a soccer Hall of Famer and a member of the 94 U.S. Men's National Team and will be the lead analyst for Fox Sports when they start kicking those balls in one year. Can't wait. Thanks for joining us on the run-down. Thank you.

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Ian's old mail route used to include delivering mail to an elderly Vietnam veteran who had a dog named Floyd. For a year and a half, Ian would see Floyd and his owner when he made stops to drop off mail. Then his route changed. Recently, the carrier that took over that route let Ian know that Floyd's owner had passed away, and that left Floyd in an animal shelter. Ian says he immediately knew he needed to give him a forever home.

The next day, Ian arrived at the shelter 10 minutes before they opened just to make sure he was first in line. He adopted the 70-pound Floyd, something he says he does not take lightly. Ian says Floyd's late owner loved and cherished the dog, and he plans to do the same. Tonya J. Powers, Fox News.

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It's time for your Fox News commentary. With the U.S. Open this week, it's worth looking into the long relationship between presidents and golf. For over a century, golf has been woven into the fabric of presidential life. But Donald Trump has elevated it beyond recreation. He's incorporated it into his presidency, both in his time on the course and with the frequency with which he refers to golf in public.

Trump doesn't just play golf. He conducts part of his presidency on the course. This business-on-the-links approach marks a stark departure from some of Trump's presidential predecessors, many of whom were more discreet about their love of the game. Teddy Roosevelt warned his chosen successor, William Howard Taft, against being photographed in golf attire, fearing Americans might think he wasn't serious about work. Dwight Eisenhower was another big presidential golfer, but he faced frequent mockery about his golfing habit.

One bumper sticker in the Ike years read, Ben Hogan for president. If we're going to have a golfer, let's have a good one. More recent presidents began mixing business with pleasure more openly. Governor Bill Clinton raised campaign funds on Arkansas courses and, as president, played with business titans like Bill Gates, even while his Justice Department investigated Gates' company, Microsoft.

Barack Obama played over 300 rounds as president, using a round of golf with House Speaker John Boehner to lead into budget negotiation. Yet this bipartisan outreach frustrated those on the left, with cultural critic Elaine Rapping grumbling that Obama went from cool to playing with John Boehner, which is about the most uncool thing there is. Some presidents learned about golf's political dangers the hard way.

Ronald Reagan largely quit playing golf as president after a disastrous 1983 weekend when the Grenada invasion, a hostage situation in the clubhouse, and the Hezbollah Beirut bombing interrupted his Augusta golf weekend.

George W. Bush's "Now watch this drive" moment after discussing a terrorist attack in Israel became infamous, with presidential golf expert Don Van Natta saying, "That will go down in presidential golf histories. Maybe one of the worst moments of all time." Bush later stopped playing golf as president entirely during the Iraq War, explaining, "I don't want some mom whose son may have recently died to see the commander in chief playing golf."

Donald Trump stands apart from these cautious approaches. He installed a White House golf simulator, bragged about being the best golfer of all the rich people, and even brought golf rivalry into presidential debates with a live argument with Joe Biden over handicaps and swing techniques. His approach reflects a broader philosophy. Why separate business from pleasure when you can leverage both simultaneously?

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