Evening Edition: The Probe Into President Biden's Autopen Use
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Thursday, June 19th, 2025. I'm Ryan Schmelz. Republicans are cracking down on former President Biden and his use of the auto pen, where one House Republican sees the investigation going. A group of people in their own vested interest did not come forward with any consideration while they lied about the president's

diminished capacity and inability to do his job in a competent fashion. And by the time the American people saw it, it was too late. This is the Fox News Rundown, Evening Edition.

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specifically when it comes to the ongoing conflict between Israel and Iran. Republicans will continue their investigation into former President Biden's alleged cognitive decline in cover-up, as well as his use of the auto pen and whether documents signed during his time as Commander-in-Chief

are still valid. It's a long list of agenda items set for debate. And if the GOP wants to hit President Trump's goal of passing the one big beautiful bill by July 4th, the House and Senate will need to get on the same page. And right now, there's still a number of issues to work out. They're going from $40,000 back down to $10,000. I think for my New York and my colleagues in California,

That's kind of a slap in the face. We spoke with California Republican Congressman Daryl Issa earlier today. You know, no consideration for these states that were really gave gave so much that in some cases they got a tax increase in 2017. So some some middle ground is going to have to happen.

How much do you think this has moved the needle in the wrong direction for the House, having it go all the way down to $10,000? You know, you are someone from a salt state. You have I don't think you've been too vocal about this issue and maybe not raised a lot of concerns the same way some of your other colleagues have done. But does this impact how you could possibly vote on this?

Well, I'm not going to allow one of the largest tax increases in American history to happen. So at the end of the day, I will be a yes, and I've got to get all my colleagues, sans one or two, to yes. And to get them to yes, we've got to make some compromises in other areas. But let's remember –

This big, beautiful bill starts off with one absolute, which is we have to preserve those tax cuts that if we don't, will cripple American business. We reshored trillions of dollars as a result of lowering corporate and personal taxes. We made a real difference under the first Trump administration. We've got to keep those and then build on it.

What do you think happens next here? Do you think you see what the Senate does in terms of changes? Do you wait for them to see if they can pass this version and then go into a negotiation? What kind of do you think is the next step here in terms of working out what these changes need to happen and how you can get enough people to yes that this works? Well, I want to act quickly on this bill because we have an ability to do not one but two reconciliations.

And that means that if we can come to something we can all get to yes on, we can then mark up a new budget. And for the next year, which is still ahead of us, we could, in fact, actually do a second round of this, which gives us the ability to negotiate that which we have to set aside in order to pass this bill. But I also want to get to what you might call Doge 2.0.

Elon Musk, thank God for Elon, he gave us $159 billion in immediate savings, gave us massive amounts of waste, fraud and abuse to look at and to cut. And that means that the House and the Senate have to pick up on that, the new transparency we're enjoying because of AI and these models today.

We need to go after it. That's what I did as a watchdog for Congress in my earlier terms. And it's what I still want to do is when we find waste and we find outright fraud, get rid of it. And that's going to take congressional action to get more – to get that $2 trillion we have to act. Is that through a rescission process with the White House or –

Is there another tool that you're looking at in order to, you know, codify their savings or make their savings official? Well, if the Democrats won't come, not a single one, then we have reconciliation, rescission and reconciliation.

obviously, executive orders. If we can get the Democrats to at least look to eliminate Medicare and Medicaid fraud to help us go after some of those, change the rules to make their greater transparency, hold the states accountable, because some of the outright fraud actually is the states and the way they oversee Medicaid for their own, quote, benefit.

So if they'll work with us even a little bit, then we can do it through regular order. But no matter what, it is our time and there is no time left to act. We have to do it on our watch. And that means in the next three and a half years. And are those conversations happening about possibly doing this through regular order and what that could look like through a legislative text?

I do it every day. I have a lot of bipartisan legislation. I had a bill that last Congress went through the House and the Senate and Biden vetoed it after we adjourned out of perhaps spite, which expanded the courts. So we do things on a bipartisan basis.

This window is not yet open. When we pass this bill, I think it opens the window for what's next that's in America's best interest. If Democrats want to get some of what they think is important into appropriations, they're going to have to work with us on savings that we both know should be done.

And are you planning on bringing that bill back? And you think that President Trump would sign it until all this time around? Absolutely. It was well constructed to not give any one president all of the new appointments, but spread them out over a decade. It passed the Senate unanimously. We had 29 Democrats, even after the election, vote for it. And then we were snubbed by President Biden's auto pen in the waning days. And by the way, I say that because we're still trying to get the original copy to see whether in fact...

It was his signature because it's only valid if it was actually his personal signature under the Constitution. You're alleging right now that you believe this legislation you had

that was vetoed by President Biden was signed via Autopen, and you don't think that's potentially no longer valid? Well, we don't believe it's valid if it's Autopen. What is alleged to us right now is, no, he signed it, and he could well have had a stack of stuff, and they just handed it to him. I don't think he cognitively knew that he was destroying a bipartisan effort that took a decade to build.

But having said that, we're going to bring it again. We expect to be bipartisan. I have co-sponsors who are brave Democrats who are willing to push back on Hakeem Jeffries and Nancy Pelosi who still are pushing people never to do something bipartisan even when it's in our mutual interest.

But, you know, I don't want to belabor the courts, but understand every day in America, whether it's a criminal waiting to come to trial or it's a civil case where there's billions of dollars, millions or billions at stake, if it's delayed, everyone loses. We need justice as timely, and we haven't expanded the number of federal judges available to hear those cases since the 90s.

How would this change the courts currently? Just give the logistics real quick. There's over 600 cases pending with each and every federal judge, active federal judge around the country. That's a caseload where most of them have to be pled out, where they have to tell you, go see if you can negotiate because we don't have time to hear it. And many, many cases end up that way.

A 10% increase doesn't fix it, but it certainly reduces the backlog and gives people the opportunity to save countless billions of dollars in wasted time. When I was in business on a full-time basis, the one thing I knew was I got a bill from the lawyer every month the case was pending, even if nothing happened.

cases cost a lot of money just by sitting there. You want to get a case, you want to get it adjudicated, and you want to get an outcome. And by the way, if it's something like patent infringement or somebody that's taken something from you, you're on hold until you get it back. So these are areas we want to have, again, President Biden's dubious veto, put it to where we're doing it again. We're coming back. And

Back to the auto pen, there will be a thorough review. The Oversight Committee is, in fact, going to be going through every one of those to figure out which ones were auto pens, which ones were real signatures, and on the auto pens, what the proof was that the president had authorized them.

With that investigation, where do you see it going? Does Judiciary have any involvement in this whatsoever? Is this just strictly an oversight investigation as of right now? It's absolutely both of us. Again, you know, both of us are affected. There's a reason that the lead is the Government Oversight Committee and Judiciary.

Having said that, though, the rolling back of things that were improperly signed, many of them will come back to judiciary to be made clear that they are invalid. And, you know, this is terrible. The other thing is – and this is the one where we have a direct one –

We believe, I believe, and I oversee that part of it, that we will probably be reopening the 25th Amendment, making it to where a group of people in their own vested interest, in spite of the 25th Amendment, including the vice president, did not come forward with any consideration while they lied about the president's

diminished capacity and inability to do his job in a competent fashion. And by the time the American people saw it, it was too late. But it should have happened. And we're going to reopen how that process begins. Because if there had been a demand that the 25th Amendment be used, or at least that there be a review of the president's ability to continue to serve in

As there should be, we wouldn't be where we are today, which is wars around the world, the economy in chaos, because we had an absence of the commander in chief for those four years. So the judiciary is going to review the use of the 25th Amendment, correct? Absolutely. And it's completely in our jurisdiction. Our guest is California Republican Congressman Daryl Issa. When we come back, we'll get his take on the ongoing conflict between Israel and Iran. Welcome.

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Obviously, one of the big things we came on here to talk to you about was the Iran conflict and what's going on there with Israel right now. What do you make of what Congress should do next when it comes to this? Is there...

a possibility to aid Israel down the road? Is there other ways in which you could address war powers? I know that that's been something that's been debated nonstop in Congress is what are the war powers of the president and what is Congress's role play in that? Where do you stand on that?

Well, first of all, one man's conflict is another man's war. For Israel, this is a war, an existential threat against their very existence. For us, we're in support of our ally, but we're one step removed. And the president has kept it that way, which I commend. Having said that, the War Powers Act was designed to limit how long a president could assert his commander-in-chief authority.

And it was well thought out. It may or may not stand the test if it ever gets tested constitutionally. But what we do know is that every president has believed. Famously, Teddy Roosevelt, when they told him they couldn't afford to send the great white fleet out, he said, I'll send them anywhere I want and you can pay to get them back. That has been the position of every commander in chief of every party for my entire life. Plus, plus, plus.

and my grandfather's entire life. And if that's the case, then the president's ability to, if he chooses to, to diminish the ability of Iran to produce and launch a nuclear weapon is absolutely within his authority, even under the War Powers Act. All right, Congressman Daryl Issa, we are out of time, but thank you so much for joining us on the Fox News Rundown Evening Edition. Thank you very much. ♪

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