From Washington: President Trump Vs. Governor Newsom
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Saturday, June 14th, 2025. I'm Jared Halpern. President Trump sends in the troops to respond to violent anti-ice protests in L.A. The local leaders have repeatedly said that they can handle protests, that they didn't have a chance to respond, that they've seen protests before, they've seen unrest all the way back to 1992 and the Rod

the King riots and all of that. And a migrant deported from Maryland returns to the U.S. for his day in court. He'd been doing this for years, is the point. Probably smuggled, we think, close to a thousand illegal aliens, including MS-13 gang members. This is exactly the type of individual we want out of the country. This is the Fox News Rundown from Washington. ♪

President Trump's order to federalize California's National Guard was illegal. That was the finding Thursday night of a federal district court judge who ordered those troops be returned to control of California Governor Gavin Newsom. But just hours later, that judge was overruled by the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, who will allow, at least for a few more days, those troops to remain on the streets of L.A. to protect California.

federal buildings and federal law enforcement personnel targeted during violent unrest following anti-ice protests.

The court case was launched by Newsom, who is suing the president, arguing the National Guard can only be mobilized by the president in specific circumstances that he says don't exist in L.A. He is not a monarch, he is not a king, and he should stop acting like one. President Trump says he sent in federal troops, including about 700 active-duty Marines, only after Newsom failed to restore law and order. Los Angeles would be right now burning to the ground just like the houses burn to the ground.

It's so sad what's going on in Los Angeles. Think of it. Local leaders, including Mayor Karen Bass, say the presence of federal troops only intensified the anger in her city. The disparity between the two parties, between the Trump administration and local leaders, including Newsom. Kristen Goodwin is Fox News Radio's Los Angeles-based correspondent. My understanding is that the National Guard troops...

the roughly 4 000 national guard troops have been guarding federal buildings downtown and you know personnel vehicles uh and you know seem to

prevent people from... That's the question. It's really whether or not they are preventing people from inciting more violence. But I think local leaders are saying, hey, we really didn't have a chance to show what we could do in responding that this was on the particular Saturday in Paramount, California, where people were throwing rocks at federal officers and, you know, at vehicles.

That, to me, was what set the Trump administration to act. And then I don't remember Governor Newsom responding up until that point. I think that after the guards deployment, then we were seeing all of these tweets saying that this was going to make matters worse, that, you know, and then the Trump administration saying, no, we have no choice. We need to make sure that we keep things peaceful. So that's that's the clash.

And I mean, in regards to the Newsom-Trump, you know, feud, this goes back, Jared. It certainly predates these protests. Yeah. I mean, it goes back. I mean, President Trump was very critical of Gavin Newsom in his first term. He was critical of the response to the wildfires in the coast, the Malibu area. Right. And so.

the Pacific Palisades fires. So there has always been a lot of acrimony between these two. And this just seemed to be another event for the two of them to kind of position themselves accordingly. Does that make sense? Yeah, 100 percent. I mean, President Trump, like you mentioned, has been calling Governor Newsom incompetent. We hear that repeatedly from President Trump.

He's called a new scum all week. Yeah, yeah. Back to 2020 with the handling of the COVID-19 pandemic. I mean, the governor facing controversy with the approach to lockdowns in public spaces and then having that birthday party that we all remember that really set people off in California. Then he faced a failed attempt at a recall election in 2021. But again,

He and the president have clashed on everything and thrown criticisms at each other from reproductive rights, immigration, homeless, dealing with the homeless crisis, electric vehicles, water, education policy. I mean, California has sued the Trump administration.

The Trump administration, I think in the first Trump administration, 120 times so far this year, 24 at least times. Yeah. A couple of times this week sued certainly over the deployment of the National Guard, sued over the EV mandate legislation that the president signed this week as well.

Let's take a couple of steps back and kind of what what led to these protests. I mean, were these protests that started out like riots and violent or was this kind of building over the last several days? Can you kind of give us a history lesson on kind of how we got to where we are now?

So my understanding was we saw the protests sort of erupt on Friday when immigration raids and operations began. I would say on a particular Friday, it was a Friday afternoon and evening. That's when the unrest really started. I think tensions boiled over on on a Saturday when we saw in Paramount, California, the

Things started getting violent. You saw people throwing rocks. One gentleman who the FBI, one individual the FBI has in custody who was throwing a rock and injured a federal agent. That seemed to be the tipping point for the Trump administration to.

send or deploy the National Guard. The local leaders have repeatedly said that, you know, they can handle protests, that they didn't have a chance to respond, that they've seen protests before. They've seen unrest all the way back to 1992 and the Rodney King riots and all of that. But I think that that was... Let's talk, because I'm glad you mentioned that, because that's a precedent that the administration has pointed to, because the National Guard was called to

uh respond to those rodney king uh verdict riots uh back in the early 90s the difference is when then president george h.w. bush uh federalized those troops it was what at the request i think of the california governor i think so yeah so that's that's the difference right so

And I think local leaders have said, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass has said that these ICE raids are not targeting the violent criminals that the administration says it was, that there are mothers, fathers, farm workers, service members, laborers, really appealing to the emotions and the humanity of the situation, while the Trump administration maintains that it's taken undocumented folks off the street who have been convicted of a range of crimes, including rape, assault,

harm to children, weapons and narcotics offenses. So again, there's that disparity where the two parties are talking about it and it's fueling the tensions. I know that

Los Angeles is a very sprawling metropolis. I have been out there a few times. I have spent hours in cars just trying to get from point A to point B. I set that up because I'm curious kind of what the geographical extent of these riots were. You know, President Trump has really described this thing. Listen, had we not stepped in, this thing could have spread faster.

All of downtown Los Angeles was under attack. It would have burned to the ground. He did not want to repeat of what we saw in the summer of 2020 in places like Minneapolis. I mean, how how big were these protests and then how big was was the looting and the violence and some of the arson fires that we saw?

I mean, so hundreds at least have been arrested in the downtown area. The overnight curfew, I will say, helping police get people off the streets. They've said that's helpful. The unrest, I mean, I think I mentioned to you it brought the 101 freeway to a halt in L.A.'s downtown area. That's troubling. You know, L.A. is gridlock all the time. When we have protesters blocking freeways, it's it's it doesn't help.

There's been looting, vehicles were set on fire while officers in riot gear have used flashbang grenades, tear gas, pepper spray to deter protesters. But as far as the overall and local leaders, including the L.A. County D.A., Nathan Hockman, L.A. Mayor Karen Bass, they've repeatedly said that they've sort of called out the way that it's being portrayed in the media, saying that it's really

Really a few blocks within downtown, whereas the L.A. is just such a huge, huge L.A. County is massive. I mean, you've been here. So they're saying that in the grand scheme of things, it's really a few blocks of where this unrest is going on.

Yeah, and there's been, you know, they've announced charges against folks. I mean, one thing that really stood out to me, the LA County District Attorney announcing charges about, you know, with folks

throwing commercial grade fireworks at officers to others driving motorcycles into officers. I think federally, you know, again, I mentioned that the man who threw a rock that injured a federal agent in Paramount. So with the exception of Paramount, which is a part of L.A. County, and I think it's about

Like it's, I believe, east of downtown. But also, you know, we've seen Molotov cocktails thrown at officers. So with the exception of Paramount, my understanding is the majority of this has just been within a few blocks of downtown downtown.

The administration also has been critical of, and you mentioned a little bit of it, L.A. Mayor Bass, Karen Bass, a former congresswoman who is no stranger to kind of how these political events can play out. How's her reaction been? Has she made any concessions that the president's asked for? Has she kind of been on the same page with Gavin Newsom through all of this? Yeah.

What's been her kind of response? She's maintained that local law enforcement could handle it.

She has repeatedly called out the Trump administration. I mean, for the immigration raids themselves, she was joined by, I think, 20 other mayors and local leaders from the region saying, stop the raids, that it is agitating folks, that it is creating more unrest and blaming the immigration raids on the protests themselves, turning violent.

She also has called out DHS Secretary Kristi Noem, who she said she served with in the House and said she doesn't recognize her and that she's very frustrated by her actions. And, you know, it's she is maintained that that local authorities can't.

could handle it and that they don't want the military here. And you said something that's notable because her response has been she wants these raids to stop. That is something the administration says is not going to happen under any circumstance. Yeah. And if not, they'll extend and expand those raids in L.A. and then across the country.

What's the kind of politics? I mean, you know, there's always kind of politics. And we talked a little bit about the history of Trump and Newsom. Listen, anybody in Washington knows that Newsom is kind of talked about when we talk about 2028 candidates. How's he viewed in California? It is a mix of reactions. I will say that. And, you know, I always California. I should. California is a huge state. Yeah. Huge population. Yeah.

A lot of different ideas, a lot of different opinions, I'm sure, from Californians. I'm so glad you said that because I think about that a lot. And I mentioned this. I have family in Australia. But California is like it's like 46 million people, which is more than the entire country of Australia's population. That's just like think about that. You know, to me, I'm like, wow, that's that's massive. But, yeah, I agree with you. I think that President Trump may be sort of.

inadvertently giving Governor Newsom a gift,

by targeting him and keeping him in the spotlight. I mean, you remember, I think it was we were at one of the first GOP presidential debates in Simi Valley ahead of the 2024 election. And yeah, the governor turned up to the press room right before the debate. I remember that. What's Gavin Newsom doing here? Really trolling the GOP and taking the attention away from the debate itself. And then for the last six months with the fires and the

current unrest. He's just been in the media spotlight. And I think about, you know, the saying there's no such thing as bad press. But when it comes to how people view him, I mean, some say like, no, he's got so much he's surrounded by controversy. Others say like he's really emerged as the face of the Democratic Party, where they've really struggled to find their voice. What's the expectation here for the days ahead? Have much of the unrest kind of settled down over the last couple of days?

I mean, my understanding is yes. I think everyone's kind of

you know, on the edge of their seats, hoping that it settles down. But again, with the Trump administration saying, we're not going away, you know, DHS Secretary Kristi Noem saying, we're not going away. We're here to stay. We are going to continue these raids. Also, I thought it was really interesting. She mentioned that IRS, the IRS is in L.A. to kind of find out these, you know, folks who may or may not be

be part of the protests that are pushing for people to be violent? Maybe there's some funding behind it. Yeah, that's one thing that President Trump has brought up is there is a belief, at least by the president, that

He has called them well-funded professional agitators. He believes that there is a funding source. That is something we've heard from the Trump administration. Have we heard that from state and local law enforcement? We have heard it locally. So earlier this week, yes.

The L.A. County Sheriff Robert Luna suggested during a press conference that they are building cases against folks who may be responsible without sharing too many details to make sure that they can build strong cases. And he said that he wasn't going to share details about whether they would be referred to federal prosecutors or, you know, at the state level. But I think we're going to find out.

that some of this really may be motivated by folks who want to create chaos. Maybe they are funded.

And so that is something that, as you point out, is not just being investigated by federal law enforcement. You say there has been talk about that at the local and state level, too. Fascinating to watch this play out. Certainly it has dominated a lot of the conversation here in Washington. So I'm glad that you were able to join us from L.A. Kristen Goodwin, always appreciate our chats. Thank you. Thanks, Jared.

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The Salvadoran immigrant deported from Maryland and sent to a notorious prison in his home country of El Salvador made a not guilty plea this week in a federal court in Tennessee. Kilmar Abrego Garcia has become a flashpoint case in the Trump administration's mass deportation operations.

The Attorney General and Homeland Security Secretary, say Abrego Garcia, is a member of MS-13 and a human smuggler. He's been indicted on federal conspiracy and trafficking charges and, if convicted, faces years in prison and deportation. This week, Fox News Rundown host Dave Anthony spoke about the case and the administration's deportation goals with Texas Republican Mike McCaul, the vice chair of the House Homeland Security Committee.

You know, the Supreme Court ordered that he be returned to the United States, after which he was very, it happened very quickly. He was detained and now under indictment on charges related to human smuggling, one conspiracy to transport undocumented aliens and also the unlawful transportation. He'd been doing this for years, is the point. Probably smuggled, we think, close to a year ago.

close to a thousand illegal aliens, including MS-13 gang members. This is exactly the type of individual we want out of the country. I was a federal prosecutor at one time myself that he will get convicted and he'll be in prison here. And then when he's done with his time, he'll be deported back to El Salvador. But what I've really been amazed at

This is how the Democrats really held him up as like a golden boy, sort of poster child, cause celeb that they're all going to rally behind this guy who, you know, the more we find out about him, the worse it gets. He beats his wife. He's an MS-13 gang member. He transported illegally, smuggled thousands of gang members. And this is why Trump won the election.

People are just sick and tired of this, and they want bad people. They want these criminal and gang members out of the country, and that's what they were trying to do. And I think when he was pulled over before he was arrested, there were eight individuals in his car all without luggage.

That says something right there, and all the passengers provided the same home address as Garcia. That's a classic human trafficking sign when they don't have any luggage, and they all claim to be related or family members of this person at that one address. Well, they're not related to Garcia. They're in the car. They're being smuggled to his home to be trafficked, whether it be human or sex trafficking.

It's exactly the type of person you just don't want in this country. His supporters say, well, he was helping people, transporting them for work, and he wasn't arrested that day. He was let go. He had an expired license, but there were no charges brought against him that day. And when he was deported, they say there were no criminal charges to back up the deportation. And they say he's not a gang member. He's a sheet worker and a father in Maryland. That's what the supporters say.

Well, and you're right. He was not arrested after that, although I think there would have been a lot of suspicion. This was also, you know, under the Biden administration where we saw countless times where aggravated felons were released. In fact, I remember Secretary Mayorkas, I was one of the impeachment managers. The reason

And I don't take that lightly. The reason I felt it was justified was he wrote a memo to his agents at the border and to ICE and to CBP and Border Patrol not to adhere to the statutory requirement that says shall detain aggravated felons, but rather says, well, use your own judgment. You know, if you use your own discretion. Well, you know, as a lawmaker, shall means shall.

There's no discretion there. And so he's giving his agents powers that defy the statute in federal law itself. So what they did was, for lack of detention space as well, they started releasing all these aggravated felons into the country. And that's probably how Mr. Garcia got out on the streets, you know, as well. And he was finally turned after he was sent back to El Salvador,

But then his return, you're correct, he was indicted in Tennessee on the human smuggling charges upon his return. Okay, you said you're a prosecutor, obviously, in your past before you were a member of Congress. This is what his attorney had to say. He said there's no way a jury is going to see the evidence and agree that this sheet metal worker, talking to this client, Kilmar Abrego-Garcia, is the leader of an international MS-13 smuggling conspiracy. Do they have to prove he's the leader of the conspiracy to be involved in smuggling?

No. I mean, all they have to show is that he was part of a conspiracy to transport undocumented aliens. It doesn't even have to be gang members, although the indictment does spell out that they were thousands of undocumented immigrants who

including minors and also alleged MS-13 members. But it's not necessary that they be MS-13. It's not necessary that he be the leader of the conspiracy. It's just that he was a part of the conspiracy. They also allege he was a participant in the killing of a gang member's mother. However, he's not charged with that. Is that a charge they would bring coming? Or is that something you add in there to just get the judge to make sure that the person's not released?

Right. It could be they don't have adequate evidence to make that case yet. However, if they do, they can file what's called a superseding indictment that would add that charge up.

to the conspiracy to transport the undocumented aliens charge. So that's still possibly very viable. I think they probably have more investigation to do because once you indict a case, then you're kind of limited in terms of discovery. So I'm sure they're getting more evidence on that. All right. Now let's get back to the case involving his deportation. Democrats certainly had concerns.

been rallying and there were a lot of protests to bring him back, which ultimately happened. In April, Senator Chris Van Hollen, a Democrat, went to El Salvador, met with Kilmar Abregu-Garcia. I want you to hear what he has to say. I have repeatedly said that we're not vouching for

Kilmar Abrego Garcia. We are vouching for his constitutional rights because if you trample over his constitutional rights, you threaten them for every American and everybody who resides in America. What is your thought when you hear that? I do find it interesting. I mean, look, I get the argument due process and the Constitution. Obviously, the Supreme Court agreed with that. But the extent to which they are attaching themselves to this man is

From just a purely political optics scenario, I think it just looks terrible. We had the Secretary of Homeland testify, you know, Kristi Noem before our committee. The entire hearing was about this one man, picture up on a poster, literally the poster child, the poster boy for the Democrats at that hearing. And they can say that about due process, and perhaps they're right about that. But I just think attaching themselves so closely to this issue

dangerous criminal who was, according to the indictment, smuggling MS-13 gang members. I don't think the American people are really going to have a lot of empathy for that, no matter what the process was. And it's precisely why President Trump won by such a large margin. No.

Now, the court rulings against him on other deportations, there are people who they want returned from El Salvador. There's a Guatemalan man who was returned after being deported. There's lots of legal challenges to what the president is doing. Do you think that he might lose some more of these cases and this puts his agenda at risk? I think these are just a handful of cases where they were swept up in raids and perhaps he didn't pay attention to all the details.

But this is not indicative of what's happening across the country. I think this is kind of a small segment. There have been about 14,000 aggravated felons arrested since the president came into office. Those are dangerous actors that have no right to be in this country under our Constitution, have no right to be in this country. Some of those illegal immigrants with criminal records are

were arrested Friday in Los Angeles in those much-protested immigration raids. ICE was serving a series of criminal warrants at a business being investigated for money laundering, custom fraud. Reporters are Tom Holman also tells Fox. We're arresting bad people. One of those taken into custody is a convicted murderer. Well, you know, when you have AOC saying we need to occupy every ICE office, Karen Bass, the mayor, L.A. saying ICE is sowing terror,

San Diego councilman saying this is state-sponsored terrorism. Yeah. I mean, the rhetoric is ratcheting up, but I know that the goal here, that the ones that they're targeting are the aggravated felons that the Biden administration let into this country. And I think most Americans agree that they don't have a right to be here and they don't want them to be here because it's a safety issue. And so I think it's generated a lot of...

hatred. What's interesting, Dave, is when I chaired the Homeland Security Committee, I authorized the Department of Homeland Security. And overwhelmingly, the majority of Democrats voted to authorize ICE into law. That just shows you how far we've come since that time. And that was, yeah, that was probably, you know, eight years ago. But they have Democrats saying communities are in fear. It's forcing these people to live in the shadows and live underground.

Well, that's where the sanctuary city term comes into play. And so when you had ICE targeting this Home Depot business, that's why the LAPD could not assist them when they were throwing, you know, they were physically assaulting officers. They were setting vehicles on fire, blocking freeways, throwing rocks, cement. I mean, that's not acceptable. These are federal law enforcement officers. And to obstruct their duties and to assault them

is the federal offense. How does this not escalate further?

Well, I think the first step is when we get all the aggravated felons, and there are probably about 200,000 of them that were released into the country. You know, I know from my days, you can't arrest everybody. You don't want to. You have to prioritize your resources. And by the way, deterrence has worked because the illegal crossings at the border have gone down to almost zero now. Catch and release is not happening anymore.

there's going to be a return to remain in Mexico. That is having a significant impact on how many people cross in here illegally. And with the resources we're providing with the reconciliation bill, we'll be able to back that up with resources, technology, aviation assets, finishing the wall, everything we need to finally get that border secure once and for all. Then I think you can have the debate on immigration reform,

which some would argue is long overdue, but you couldn't get to that point when you had a wide open border like we saw under the Biden administration. Congressman Michael McCaul represents the 10th District in Texas as a Republican, also vice chair of the House Homeland Security Committee, chairman emeritus of House Foreign Affairs, a member of both committees still. Great to talk to you. Thank you, Congressman. You too, Dave. I appreciate it. Thanks.

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