Hostage Families Remain Hopeful As Israel Fights Multiple Wars
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I'm Will Cain. I'm Ainsley Earhart. And this is the Fox News Rundown. Wednesday, June 18th, 2025. I'm Dave Anthony. While Israel and Iran do battle, the war also still rages in Gaza.

Where Hamas keeps holding 53 hostages, 20 of them believed to be still alive. You have to stay hopeful. There is no other choice. And this war must end. I mean, it's been too much, too long. Almost, we had 620 days.

We speak with Adi Alexander, whose Sonny Don, an American, was set free last month.

I'm Jessica Rosenthal. The Federal Reserve Board will decide whether or not to cut interest rates later today as Republicans argue over the big, beautiful bill that many believe will add to an already ballooning debt. The problem with the interest is we have too much debt, and we need to control the deficits and bring that down. And I'm David Marcus. I've got the final word on the Fox News Rundown. ♪

Israel keeps attacking Iran, taking out military leaders and missiles and launchers and targeting nuclear sites with the goal to prevent Iran from building weapons, which they were feared to be close to being able to do. Now, Israel's already been at war in Gaza since Hamas's terror attack, October 7th, 2023, and Hamas is still holding 53 hostages. 20 are alive, uh,

The rest, unfortunately, are not alive. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu says many of the 202 other hostages who've been released were either rescued or set free alive. Some people believed in the beginning of the war. In fact, our senior, the most senior military people, they said you would be lucky if we got one. Netanyahu told Fox's Brett Baer Sunday that he remains committed to getting all of them released, hoping for a new ceasefire deal.

But with Israel's ongoing battle with Iran, which backs Hamas... This issue will be put, will be placed on the back burner of this Iranian conflict, and it's a major concern. That's Adi Alexander, whose son he donned, was the last living American set free by Hamas last month. We've been through that before, through the first round of escalation with Iran and another round of escalation with Lebanon.

And it's been too much. It was too long. And enough is enough. Yeah. And now, you know, it was just last week, Israel did go in and retrieve two more bodies of hostages. So they're still working in Gaza. There's still an operation going on in Gaza. I assume you've spoken to some of these families who are still waiting for loved ones. I mean, you know what they're feeling. Yeah, they're still waiting. And it's a lot of action.

aggravation you know about the least and how it will work out the and what the combination of the hostages out four plus two plus four eight plus two five plus five it's and it's you know it's an emotional roller coaster for the families I'm still in touch with some of the families trying to you know just trying to help and use all my connection

that we kind of established during the year and a half, and it's really tough. You talk about the emotional rollercoaster. There were times where, as you talked about, the numbers would come out, that Hamas would release a certain amount, and then you'd find out, because you're hoping that Adan's part of it, and then he's not. And then he's not part of this list, and he's not part of that list. Did you, at some point,

fear that he wasn't alive anymore? No, actually not. And surprisingly, don't ask me if I thought that he will be there stuck forever or maybe not even among living. I just want to... For the second phase of his captivity, for the seven months prior to his release, we had absolutely nothing.

I mean, no signs of life, no nothing. They hit him really well.

at some facility. Let's call it this way. And the only signs of life we had, it's two hostage videos. Okay. But it was a great sign of life for us, obviously. Horrible to see. Horrible to see. But at least he's alive. Exactly. That's the only thing we had. And we were grateful. When did that happen? When was that? The first one was released after...

after 421 days on the Thanksgiving weekend. So you went for more than a year not knowing if he was alive? I mean, hoping he was alive. For more than six months. For more than six months. More than six months, okay. Because we knew after the first release of the hostages back in 2023, November 2023, that a lot of folks saw him. Oh, okay. So...

You just didn't see him until later. Exactly. So a lot of people saw him. It was a humanitarian release of elderly and women and children. And a lot of people saw him. So we knew he was alive. We knew he was okay. He lost a lot of weight.

Now we know that he's a six foot tall guy, so six, even a little bit more. And he's in tunnels. He's in tunnels, and at the lowest, his weight was 121 pounds, so imagine... Six feet, 121 pounds. 121 pounds. That's thin.

And the original weight, I think it was 175 or something like that. So he lost more than 50 pounds in those tunnels and the conditions were terrible. Did he eat much? No, because during the ceasefires, they had some more food available. So maybe some meat, but there is no ceasefire, no food.

Okay, so that's... And I'm thinking about the remaining 20 living hostages. And we're not talking about the ceasefire now. There is an active operation. And a blockade and a lot of starvation. Starvation, listen, when the hostages don't eat, the guards of the hostages, they don't eat either. There is no food. We have to put it as simple as this way.

It's not like they're being started on purpose, but there is no food. There is no food for nobody. So people need to think about it. So it's a terrible situation. And that terrible situation started when Idan Alexander, who was born in Tel Aviv but raised in New Jersey, was back in Israel serving in the military.

And he was ambushed by Hamas militants and kidnapped during that 2023 terror attack. And that terrible situation finally came to an end May 12th. Edan Alexander, an American citizen who, until recently, most thought was no longer living, thought was dead, is going to be released in about two hours, actually. That was President Trump. Edan's mother, Yael Alexander, finally got to talk to him after. Oh, my God, Edan!

Nina?

And she actually got the news of his release in another call the day before on Mother's Day with special U.S. envoy Steve Witkoff. Steve actually told me, Ari, listen to me. Put your wife on the speaker now. And I put her on the speaker, and they told us in 10 minutes from now you will be hearing the Hamas announcement about your son getting out tomorrow. And this is what happened. We just opened the TV. There was some Israeli channel.

live broadcast and And it was boom so all the channels reported to that and a few minutes later all the local US channels who thought that had to be one of the best days I mean the next day of course when you see him is even better, but that had to be an amazing day Yeah, that was an amazing day I was we took a flight five hours later on the same day made on time

to that IDF army base next to the Gaza border. It was an unbelievable evening and I made on time. Idan was in the shower and we met him right after that. You finally see him.

That had to be an emotional, crazy moment. Surreal, surreal, I'm telling you. It was unbelievable. It's just like tiny apartment. So he was there and it was a path to this apartment. I was walking through this path like in a tunnel. I couldn't breathe. So we saw him. It was like surreal, surreal feeling. So now a month later, how's he doing? I

I think he's doing okay. He's on the right path. The right nutrition, the vitamins, all the vitals are okay. Minor injury, shoulder injury in those tunnels, I think he's recovering really well. Is that from what happened there? At some point, the tunnel collapsed on him. During an attack of some kind, maybe? It was...

It was an IDF attack on the above ground. It was above ground, but most probably it was too powerful for the stunner to survive and it collapsed on him. But he got out? He got out, yeah. He got out and it was a couple of weeks before he was released, so he's recovering from that. But yeah, he's on the right path.

You're talking physical? Yeah. But what about the mental toll something like this takes? How many days, again, was he held? 584 days, but it's the same kid that we know. It's the same Brazilian kid.

He's a strong kid, and it's the same exact child that we met before he was kidnapped. Well, that's amazing. I'm sure he's also had some counseling, right, to help? I mean, they must do that there for these people who have been released, like your son.

Yeah, he had to stay actually in Israel for the whole month of the rehab. And he was set to take a flight back on 14 of June 14. The other day? Yeah. Yeah, a couple of days ago. And after the month, it's kind of mandatory rehab for the... I see. I would say that.

mandatory month of rehab and all of a sudden the Iranian conflict started so now we are kind of stuck in the middle. Yeah, they're not doing a lot of flights. No. Yeah, out of there at the moment. So he goes through all this ordeal. Does he ever in his time in the tunnels hear any news of anything?

So the first phase, the first year of the captivity, it was mainly like a running from the IDF. Place to place. Place to place. Place to place, area to area, from the central area of the strip.

to the northern area of the street and hiding in mosques, schools, apartments, tents, sleeping on the street. So it was a hell. You know, Hamas always claims they don't hide in schools. They don't have their operations in hospitals, right? They deny it.

They always deny that. Yeah, they do, especially for hostages. I mean, if you want to hide somebody, you better hide the hostage in the populated area so the IDF, of course, wouldn't attack there. So this is what they did.

And it was a hell of a year. But the second phase was a little bit better. The second phase being President Trump in office? Re-election of the President Trump, November. He was placed at the other facility. The condition was a little bit better, a little bit more food.

and some exposure to the media, you know, to the local channels, to Arab channels, to some radio, you know, once a week or so. He saw us. He saw you? Yeah.

He saw us. So he's hostage and he sees you. What did he hear you say? No, he saw us. First of all, he saw us with President Trump in Queens. Oh. At the Rabbi's Milubavitz oil. You know, he saw us there. He just saw the image of you. Yeah, the image. They show it to him.

And it was funny. And then they had some kind of recap once a week, maybe a recap of what's going on above the ground.

through some local channels. So he was very well informed about everything. But from their perspective, the Palestinian perspective, which must be very different than what we... Yeah, it's absolutely different, but at least it's some kind of information. When you see your parents and all your signs and those hostage plazas in Tel Aviv and the people holding your signs, that gives you a lot of hope. That was a great thing for him to see. And what is your message to those families still waiting with the loved ones still there?

The hope is mandatory. I mean, you have to stay hopeful. There is no other choice. And this war must end. I mean, it's been too much, too long. Almost, we 620 days into this war, it must end and must end for everybody.

Adi Alexander, father of Adan Alexander, American hostage released back in May, still in Israel, but is improving in his health more than a month later. Great to have you on. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Thank you for having me.

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The Federal Reserve Board wraps up its June meeting today, and we expect to hear from Chairman Jerome Powell about potential rate cuts. Last month, the answer on that was no. Powell had cited many factors, including tariffs. But we think right now the appropriate thing to do is to wait and see how things evolve. There's so much uncertainty. If you talk to businesses or market participants or forecasters, everyone is just...

is just waiting to see how developments play out. We now have a tentative deal though with China resulting in a 55% tariff in total on imports. But last month, a couple of other issues loomed over the conversation. The big beautiful bill and the debt. It's nearly $37 trillion now. We do know that the debt is on an unsustainable level, on an unsustainable path. Not at an unsustainable level, but an unsustainable path.

And it's up, it's on Congress to figure out how to, how to get us back on a sustainable path. And, you know, it's not up to us to give them advice. Tuesday, the Congressional Budget Office issued a new forecast projecting a $2.8 trillion deficit increase over the course of a decade should the House version of the Big Beautiful Bill pass. Tuesday, Senate Majority Leader John Thune defended how they're tackling the bill and the Medicaid cuts contained within. I think Democrats tend to reflexively oppose anything that,

supported by President Trump, no matter how sensible that policy might be.

But it's not just Democrats. There are notable Republicans pushing back here. Senator Josh Hawley has questioned Medicaid cuts. Senator Ron Johnson doesn't like the possible increase to the debt. And Senator Rand Paul has his own issues. I'm really not transforming or changing the direction of the country away from bankruptcy. So I can't vote for the debt ceiling. But I've said, look, you want my vote? Negotiate with me. Today, we'll find out if a rate cut is in the cards and the Federal Reserve Board's opinion about the uncertainties we face now.

as compared to the uncertainties from five weeks ago. The bottom line is we won't see a change in rates. Douglas Holtz-Akin is the president of the American Action Forum and former director of the Congressional Budget Office. The geopolitical events of the Middle East, particularly Israel and Iran, do add to the uncertainty, and they add to it exactly the way the tariffs do. It's a potential increase in costs. Say, oil prices go up. That has both implications for inflation and for unemployment. And since...

One means you raise rates and one means you cut. The Fed just is going to stand pat and watch how things develop. After a stronger than expected jobs report in May, the president urged the Federal Reserve chairman to lower rates, right, as he often does. But he insisted if the Fed cut rates, it could help our interest payments on our debt, which are themselves out of control, right? It's in the hundreds of millions of dollars. How much would it realistically help interest payments if we cut the rates? The

the Fed is at most going to cut rates by 25 basis points at the very shortest end of the yield distribution. So, you know, you cut the overnight rate by 25 basis points. I don't know that you move the 10-year rate at all. They control the short end. They don't control the long end. I don't think they're going to change interest payments very much. So the problem with the interest is we have too much debt and we need to control the deficits and bring that down. Also,

On that front, inflation has cooled as well, at least from the last CPI report. It was a 2.4 percent. Core inflation was at 2.8 percent. Do those numbers matter? How much do they matter, given the other factors we're talking about, whether it's geopolitical tensions, unsettled tariffs or is like a tentative deal with China big enough to factor in and outweigh that?

I think that you know the tentative deal with China is 30 versus 145 145 is cutting off trade entirely 30 is raising the cost of business by 30 that's pretty inflationary and while it has not yet shown up in the measured inflation that we've seen uh since Liberation Day that's a report on April which this all happened in the middle of April and on May one month in

It's just a matter of time. You really are going to see these tariff costs passed along. Regional federal banks, Federal Reserve banks have done a number of surveys, particularly Atlanta and New York, and all of the firms say they're going to pass the tariff costs along. So I expect it to show up in inflation in the months to come. I don't think there's any way around that. The only question is how big and how fast. Interesting. Okay, so as we discuss all things relating to the economy, we are constantly now reminded –

about this ever increasing debt. It's close to 37 trillion now. Countries that hold our debt, I'm reading, have been slowly getting rid of it, like China and Japan. But how much longer can we do this? Or maybe I should ask, how much higher can this number get?

Before something happens, and I don't know what that something is, but do you know? So something is already happening. And it is that when we borrow, as we did last year, $1.8 trillion via the federal government, that $1.8 trillion is not available to other banks.

market participants to use. So our companies can't borrow it and expand or buy new software or get new equipment. They can't train their workers. Individuals can't buy, borrow it and send someone to college or build a house. And so private sector activity has been crowded out on a regular basis because of the large deficits. And that ultimately hurts your productivity growth and hurts growth in standard living. And the truth is,

Since 2000, we've averaged deficits of 5.5% of GDP, and we've had really poor trend economic growth. Before that, in 1960 to 2000, we averaged about 2.2% of GDP, and we had one percentage point faster growth. So we're paying a price already.

The price people seem to be focused on is the sovereign debt crisis, the meltdown. I'd prefer not to find out how long we have till we get to that. That makes no sense to find out. It would make more sense to right now recognize that we need to curb the growth of these big spending programs. We need to do it beginning today.

So you're saying it's not just inflationary, the effects of the spending, but it's also actually cutting into real average Americans' ability to function in this economy. It affects our ability to get ahead. You hear all the time about how kids today don't have the opportunities of their parents. That's actually true. It takes 56 years for the standard of living to double today's growth rates. It took 29 years in the 20th century. So when my dad came out of the Navy and went to work in the mills in Pittsburgh, he

he could double the standard of living in one working career. And that's not happening now. It's taking two working careers. And so we're paying a price. There's no question. And the notion that the only price we will pay is later when the crisis hits is mistaken. We're paying a price and we should lower that price tag right now. You know, there are some who think, and I know you know this, that we're all, we're going to add to the debt shortly with this big, beautiful bill. The Congressional Budget Office says it's going to add more

to it with all these tax cuts, but I want you to listen to this exchange that the Treasury Secretary Scott Besson had at a recent House hearing with Alabama Democratic Congresswoman Terri Sewell. The CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, official score of this bill

says that it increases the federal deficit by $2.4 trillion. Sorry to interrupt, Congresswoman, but the CBO also said the tariff income over the 10-year window would be $2.8 trillion. So that would be $400 billion. You want to talk about dynamic scoring and all that stuff. There's nothing dynamic about that. You're quoting the CBO. I'm quoting the CBO. So let's level set. What do you make of what he had to say? And if we will see an add to the debt?

A couple of things. Number one, for the tariffs to raise $2.8 trillion, as he mentioned, all the tariffs that were put in place would have to remain in place for 10 full years. And I don't think anyone believes that's going to happen. Markets are certainly not pricing that. That's for sure. Because when they first put it in place, we saw just sell-offs everywhere. And so they're counting on a lot of those tariffs not coming back.

The second is CBO today released its dynamic analysis of the one big, beautiful bill act and said that it would raise only $98 billion in dynamic scored revenue. So there's no growth effects. They're not getting better growth. And the basic picture is the one they had in the static estimate. And, you know, I think the administration and the Republicans in Congress should take that seriously and make it a more pro-growth bill because

It's a missed opportunity to close the deficit and the debt. It's also a missed opportunity to have better growth and the bill they have may satisfy themselves on other grounds, but it's not doing much for growth. Yeah, Besson had said we do need to grow our way out of this, right? Stabilize our finances and grow our way out of this. When you say this bill should be more pro-growth then, to his very request and point,

What does that mean? What should it include? What should it look at? So what the Senate did was take the investment provisions, the expensing of equipment, plant, R&D, and instead of having them last for only four years, make them permanent. That's a much more pro-growth environment for businesses to operate. So I think that's the right trade to make. If you have to do that,

and not do as much no tax on tips that's a trade that i think would be useful to make uh they're trying to have more aggressive medicaid cuts in the end we are going to have to control the big entitlement programs and their spending so i think they're on the right track in making those changes and the administration is talking a good game about growth but the numbers they're using just aren't realistic they're talking about averaging three percent over the next 10 years

the trend growth rate is about 1.9%, 1.8%, depending on who does it. We're not going to get a full percentage point increase. We'd be lucky to get three-tenths, four-tenths. That'd be fantastic, and everyone should be thrilled. So in the end, there's no easy way out of this. It's going to be the hard work of controlling the actual spending programs.

Is it a hard work or just also a hard reality? Like, I know we always have these discussions about don't don't touch Social Security and Medicare. And if you if you even hint that you that we might need to tinker with it, the other side comes at you hard. Right. So do do these need to be touched at some point? And like, what would you argue for? Is it a retirement age raise? Is it privatizing Social Security? Like, what are some of the creative thoughts you have about it?

So on the politics, this is about to change. And I think this is one of the poorly appreciated facts right now. The Social Security Trust Fund is expected to be empty within eight years. There'll be a new trustees report out in a week or so. Might be quicker than that. And at that point, unless they change the law, you can't pay a full Social Security benefit. You have to cut benefits by 21 percent. Now, I don't think anyone believes that's going to happen.

I don't believe that's going to happen. But that means that we are going to do Social Security reform somewhere in the next eight years. Whether you think it's the third rail politics or not, those days are over. We're doing Social Security reform. And I think that's a good thing. It needs reformed. People right now who are 55 don't know what their benefits are going to be in 10 years. So let's give them some notion of what the deal is going to be. Let's put the program on a financially sustainable trajectory and

you know, let a thousand flowers bloom on the nature of the solutions. I have my own, you know, ways to get- - What is it? Tell us. - I think it's simple. I think the reality is we're going to do some revenue increases and we're gonna have to control the spending. So the revenue increases just move the cap up to where it was originally and tax 90% of wages. And then on the benefit side, the first thing you have to do is make the minimum benefit bigger, not smaller, 'cause it's not enough for where we are in the 21st century.

But then you simply more aggressively means test the benefits. You want to raise the normal retirement age to 70. That's for sure. But you also need to start asking just how much additional Social Security do you give the most affluent? And the left is happy to raise taxes on the affluent, but they're unwilling to cut their Social Security benefits. And I don't understand that.

A dollar of taxes up or a dollar of Social Security down is the same impact on the budget. So I'd take a hard look at what we're going to give Warren Buffett and Bill Gates and Elon Musk and just start there and be more aggressive in scaling down the benefit until things add up. Douglas Holtz-Akin, thank you so much for your time and your expertise. Appreciate you. My pleasure.

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It's time for your Fox News commentary. David Marcus. What's on your mind? 19th century steam locomotives are very cool. And as my son and I discovered at the Smithsonian in Washington, D.C. on Saturday, they're also one of the few things that can bring MAGA and Never Trump together.

That was the strange scene the morning of the U.S. Army 250th birthday parade and the Washington anti-Trump protests, both scheduled for later that day at the American History Museum.

It felt a bit like the dance at the gym in West Side Story, neutral territory for our political jets and sharks, but with less jumping. Beyond the museum walls was a festival atmosphere of flags and patriotic endowments, but also the signs of hyper-security, even snowplow trucks back-to-back blocking district streets.

I met Jeremy from Virginia, whose crew dropped the eight miles of concrete barriers protecting the parade route. I asked if they do this work often. He said, "This kind of thing's a small part of our business, but has great margins. It's a nice bonus." And it made me think, as he and his guys took a smoke break, how much of the ballyhooed $25 to $45 million price tag of the U.S. Army parade went to companies like this?

Likewise, the protest of 1,000 souls or so marching to and fro very near the parade site required a heavy police presence, which made me wonder how much 2,000 no-kings protests all across the country cost states and localities.

Katie and Cindy had come up from Georgia to be at the Army parade and were typical of the Trump supporters in town. We just love them, Katie told me. But there were people there to protest, too. Scott had come from Seattle and wore his No King shirt adorned with American flag imagery. I don't think any protests will pop off at the parade, he told me. He was right.

When people are together in person in relatively small groups, rational and respectful political discourse can and does happen. At one point, I watched as two women in Trump shirts politely tried to explain to two men in pride gear that Trump is not a racist or a homophobe. I don't know if any minds were changed, but just the tone was a welcome and hopeful sign. Physical interaction is an antidote to hatred and fear, and that is exactly why both sides often try to silo their supporters to maintain ideological purity.

This siloing tactic works so long as you keep everything online, so long as you tell people to cut out family members on the other side from their lives, so long as the algorithm provides soothing reinforcement of beliefs. The touch of human breath in a real conversation breezes all of that conditioning away and two people who are just being people can truly talk about anything.

On Saturday, Washington, D.C. was unique in that it held court to one major event bringing out Donald Trump supporters and another for those who despise him. Despite the proximity, order held and both groups seemed to claim success by nightfall. The highlight of the Museum of American History, especially as it was also Flag Day, is Old Glory herself.

I didn't think it would be this big, my son said, gazing beyond the glass at the 32-foot by 40-foot historical treasure. It is a big flag, and today it represents a very big and diverse nation, one with fractures running through it made of politics, race, and identity. But when we get small, when we talk one-on-one and really listen, those fractures mend, and I saw some of that in our nation's capital last weekend.

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