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Thursday, May 29th, 2025. I'm Jessica Rosenthal. President Trump's fight with Harvard University intensifies as his State Department announces a suspension of foreign student visas. There has to be a balance here, and part of that balance has to be to guarantee free speech while we also guarantee the safety of students on our campuses.
And Lisa Brady. It's a race the president's watching in a state Republicans think is ready for a change. The major factor is there's a whole lot less indifference in New Jersey this time around with regard to a Republican winning. And I'm Tomi Lahren. I've got the final word on the Fox News Rundown.
The U.S. State Department says it is temporarily suspending interviews for all potential foreign university and college students while it deepens vetting of those already in the pipeline, especially to examine their social media accounts.
Secretary of State Marco Rubio noted the man accused of killing Yaron Lashinsky and Sarah Milgram, two Israeli embassy staffers in Washington, D.C. last week, yelled, Free Palestine, a familiar cry at multiple elite university campus protests since October 7th, 2023. We have implemented a vigorous new visa policy that will prevent foreign nationals from coming to the United States to foment hatred against our Jewish community.
We are holding international organizations and nations accountable for rhetoric against Israel that resurfaces in the manifesto of monsters like Iran and Sarah's killer. Education Secretary Linda McMahon told Fox's America Reports Wednesday. It is, you know, this is not a First Amendment case, which is being alleged. This is a civil rights case. When President Trump was asked about it in the Oval Office, he brought up Harvard.
as tensions escalate between his administration and the university. In April, the president demanded changes to Harvard to include ending DEI programs and hires. They then froze some grant and contract money. The president has threatened the university's tax-exempt status, and Homeland Security is now trying to end Harvard's ability to enroll foreign students. The president reacted Wednesday. We have people who want to go to Harvard and other schools. They can't get in.
Because we have foreign students there. But I want to make sure that the foreign students are people that can love our country. A federal judge has blocked the administration's efforts to stop foreign student enrollment for now. But the State Department's broader effort to do deeper dives on all prospective foreign students remains the plan.
I would be surprised if even the most favorable judge in the most favorable district would try to enjoin this type of temporary suspension. What the Trump administration is saying is that they want to examine how these applications are vetted to make sure that we're taking greater care
as to who's coming into the country. Jonathan Turley is a Fox News contributor and Shapiro Professor of Public Interest Law at George Washington University. That is right in the heart of executive powers and controlling our borders and national security. How significant is that reasoning? Look, we just want to vet
future prospective students more deeply, in particular, looking at their social media posts. It sort of indicates to us that if a deeper dive is headed in that direction, maybe we haven't thus far been looking at a lot of social media posts. Do a lot of, I guess, applicants now increase their security settings on their social media posts? Like, how do we do this?
Well, there may be some change in conduct as people learn of these threshold inquiries. The United States has been known as a fairly open border, not just in terms of the controversy of the southern border, but also in terms of student visas and other entries.
that was based on our desire for people to come here, to study here, to join as part of this community. Those are all very good reasons. But this is not a new issue. For years, many have suggested that the United States needs to tighten a bit in terms of looking at who's coming in on these student visas. It was always viewed as the easiest path for entry into the United States was to secure a student visa.
If more students end up being rejected, like let's say, oh, I got into Harvard, I live abroad and I got into Harvard or I got into Yale, and then they're denied the student visa, even though they have an acceptance letter from one of these universities. Is that where we might see more lawsuits or more sort of legal reaction to this decision?
I would expect that would be true, although I'm still not confident that those challenges would have much in terms of their chances in court. The courts have largely deferred to the executive branch in regulating our borders and entries.
There is a concern among the free speech community, and it's not a trivial one, as to how much the United States government will discriminate on the basis of viewpoints. Even if someone criticizes the United States, that does not mean that they're a danger to the United States. Quite to the contrary, some people may criticize the United States because they feel that we're not living up to our own values.
So it is a dangerous course if you take too broad an approach or too arbitrary of an approach in looking at speech content. Interesting. Yes.
Tell me about that a little bit more. I know you are at times on a college campus yourself for obvious reasons. The protests we've seen mostly on these college campuses and we've heard Secretary of State Rubio react to them and we've heard President Trump react to them are very much pro-Palestinian, sometimes pro-Hamas protests.
anti-Israel. It seems that that's what this administration is reacting to. How do you respond to that when it comes to the free speech argument if they are here on a visa and they're not American citizens?
Well, first, in terms of any issue that goes into court, you have to keep in mind that Harvard itself completed a study and found that they had created or allowed the establishment of a hostile environment for Jewish students. So the university itself came to that conclusion. Obviously, outside groups have also come to that conclusion.
So there's a real issue here that the Trump administration is identifying. If if you had a university that found that they created a hostile environment for African-Americans or women, there would be a lot of outrage of people saying, well, how can we fund those schools? So there is a bit of hypocrisy here among critics.
Now, having said that, once again, there is a concern among the free speech community. You are allowed to protest against Israel, to protest for Palestinian rights.
The administration created, I thought, a clear high ground when it said it was focusing on students that were engaging in unlawful conduct, the taking over of buildings, the threatening of individual students, the committee committing of trespass. All of those things are potential criminal acts. You're not allowed to do that if you're here upon the discretion of the United States government as a student.
Now, what concerns some of us is that the administration has also claimed that they can remove people because of the content of their speech, even aside from any type of criminal conduct. That gets into a grayer area. You know, obviously, Hamas is a terrorist organization, and many of us have seen protests supporting Hamas and even some supporting what happened there.
in the massacre of Jewish citizens by Hamas. That is a serious problem for universities where we have to guarantee that Jewish students feel safe. And you have protests saying in some cases that Hamas was justified in doing what it did. Well, what it did was murder. What it did was the commission of rape, the killing of children, the taking of hostages.
So this puts universities in a very tough position. I'm hoping that the universities and the Trump administration can still reach an accommodation. There has to be a balance here, and part of that balance has to be to guarantee free speech while we also guarantee the safety of students on our campuses.
So we've been talking about those who want to come here and you just referenced those who are already here. I want to ask you a little bit more about that because Secretary of State Rubio had said that we were revoking 300 visas. I know the case of Mahmoud Khalil out of Columbia, that's moving forward while he's detained. He has permanent residency status, but he may end up being deported. That's different from the case of, for example, Rumaisa Ozturk, the tough student. She's been ordered released even though her visa's been revoked.
She wrote a pro-Palestinian, anti-Israel op-ed. Do we have an understanding about who can be deported, who can be detained if their visas revoked or other sort of status is questioned? Or does each case sort of need to move through the legal process on its own here and be adjudicated on its own?
Well, that's a great question because it is disconcerting that many of us do not know what that standard is as you compare these cases. Khalid is a little different because the administration insists that he was involved in what became a protest with violent and criminal elements and that he was not just simply a pedestrian or an onlooker, but someone who played a significant role in that.
The question of how much they have to show is being answered by the administration by saying not much. I mean, the administration is saying that under the federal statute, Secretary Rubio just needs to find a reasonable basis to believe that the conduct of this individual may undermine the national security of the United States. That's a very forgiving standard. Well,
Let me get your thoughts on the president's threat to pull grant funding to Harvard, because more importantly within that is the administration's attempt to block Harvard from enrolling international students. I did not realize this, but nearly 30 percent of their students are not from the United States. The attempt to stop international enrollment has been blocked by a federal judge for now. But is the State Department's effort to vet international students more carefully likely a reaction?
to what's happening here at Harvard at a more tailored level. I should say that even though I have been a fierce critic of Harvard's, I think that the administration needs to consider the economic and cultural impact of this. Now, having said that, I wrote a column that says that this is a war of attrition
that Harvard's likely to lose, even if they prevail in courts. It's sort of like in the Civil War when General Grant said that he was quite satisfied to stay and fight on this line for as long as it takes because Grant knew that his opponent could not suffer the casualties and would lose in a war of attrition. Well, the same is true with Harvard, even with its massive endowment.
Trump is actually showing a fair degree of knowledge about higher education. Foreign students are the soft underbelly of American higher education. Harvard has over 27% foreign enrolled students. Most of those students pay a full ride. And so...
Harvard and other universities are desperate to get foreign students because they do pay a full ticket. So if you squeeze out federal grants and you freeze foreign enrollments, even a university like Harvard is going to start to have trouble catching wind. I mean, it is it's a major blow.
So this could get tied up in the courts for years. In the meantime, it places this big red light on Harvard that it is persona non grata. And so researchers, students are maybe more likely to go to University of Chicago or some other school, MIT, that is not in the crosshairs of this controversy.
Interesting. Professor Turley, I could ask you several more questions, but I'll let you go. Thank you so much for your time. Appreciate you. Thank you very much. Great to talk to you.
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In less than two weeks, June 10th, New Jersey voters decide who makes the cut for the November ballot, one of only two states electing governors this year, a year after President Trump won a second term and came within 6% of winning New Jersey, making significant gains in what's long been a blue state. We are facing the most corrupt president this nation has ever had. Congresswoman Mikey Sherrill is one of six Democrats running for New Jersey governor, accusing the president of
cruel policies during a May 12th primary debate on PBS. This is not a federal government you can work with. She's been leading the Democratic primary in recent polls and also attacking Republican frontrunner Jack Cittarelli, who was recently endorsed by the president, one of five Republicans in the race, to replace incumbent Democrat Phil Murphy, whose term limited.
It's Ciutarelli's third run for governor. This landscape feels very different, especially compared to 21. We're not dealing with a pandemic or a shelter in place order, and we're not running against an incumbent. But the major factor is there's a whole lot less indifference in New Jersey this time around with regard to a Republican winning. The former state assemblyman lost to Governor Murphy by just 3% in 2021. I came very close in 21. President Trump ran very well here last November. Over the last
Almost four years, party registrations have significantly outnumbered for Republicans than the Democrats. So we're in a really good position here. We're working really hard. I really like our chances. And now you have President Trump's endorsement.
And how important is that to you after previously maybe, you know, not seeking out his endorsement? It's really important. Two million New Jerseyans voted for President Trump last November. That's 600,000 more voters.
then voted for Phil Murphy back in 2021. He's significantly out polling Phil Murphy in New Jersey right now. And New Jersey is a grateful whenever I remind them that he's put a temporary halt on wind farms off our Jersey shore. He's beating up on the New York Democrats over their egregious price grab on New Jersey is known as congestion pricing. And, uh, he's certainly been open to, um,
increasing the SALT deduction on our federal tax returns. We're a high-tax state. New Jerseyans want to be able to deduct their state and local taxes on their federal tax return. He's allowing that to happen again. I wanted to ask you about the SALT deduction because the budget bill approved by the House, I mean, no telling yet what the Senate might do to make changes, but the House version does raise the limit on those deductions.
Who does it help and how much does it help in New Jersey if that stays as it is? It helps the vast majority of New Jerseyans. We pay the highest overall taxes in the country because of our property taxes, our income taxes, our sales taxes. So the ability now to deduct once again in our property taxes and our income taxes on the federal tax return, I think is only fair when you consider that New Jersey is a donor state. We send billions more to Washington, D.C. than we get in return.
So this is only fair. And it's great news that the House bill quadruples four times what it was before, up to $40,000 deduction on the federal tax return. Medicaid has been a big debate at the federal level with this budget bill. Are you hearing any concerns on the ground in New Jersey? And what would you say to voters concerned about those benefits? Rumbling is only coming from those that manipulate the news. I
I think the best way to preserve Medicaid is to eliminate all the fraud in Medicaid. So I don't think it's unreasonable for us to make sure that able-bodied people are working, if they possibly could, to get off of Medicaid. We want to get all the waste, inefficiency, and fraud out of each and every federal program. So...
We don't see this as a real problem in New Jersey. I think it's all going to work out just fine. We should all be in favor of the dollars going to the people that deserve them most, the most vulnerable, not necessarily able-bodied people. And here in New Jersey, I will tell you, our governor allowed a married couple with two children to qualify for Medicaid, even if they were making up to $114,000 a year. So we're taking a different needs-based approach to who is eligible for Medicaid. I think that's a fair process.
Is a main part of your strategy the argument that after eight years under a Democratic governor, the state is ready for a change? After eight years of failed policies and 25 years of Democratic rule in our state capital, you bet. I mean, look where we are today. The highest property taxes in the nation, the worst place in the country in which to do business.
the worst place in the country in which to retire, number one in out-migration, educational failure. We just slipped from two to 12 on the national report cards. We've got infrastructure problems that are making national headlines with New Jersey Transit and Newark Airport, rather. We've got overdevelopment in our suburbs, and we've got a public safety crisis because these liberal Democrats have handcuffed our local police. These are the issues.
And we're going to remind everybody that it's all happened over the last eight years with the help of the Trenton Democrats who've ruled the legislature. So it's time for a change here in New Jersey. As you hold events around the state, what are people telling you? What are they most concerned about? Are those the same issues that they're talking about?
You bet they are. They're talking about the affordability crisis, which has only gotten worse because of monthly skyrocketing electric bills because Phil Murphy has failed us on energy policy. He bet everything on wind instead of giving us a diversified portfolio of electricity generation. They're talking about the public safety crisis because of all the car thefts and the break-ins. We've got to reform bail reform. Cashless bail has created professional criminals, and we've handcuffed our local police with a bunch of very liberal policies.
They're very concerned about public education, what their kids are learning in school today. They want to get back to teaching critical life skills, provide vocational training opportunities with an age-appropriate curriculum. They're very, very concerned about all the overdevelopment in our suburbs because of mandated affordable housing, which makes no sense when there's no jobs or infrastructure or mass transit in the communities in which all this housing is being mandated. I mean, these are the issues, and we're going to talk about them all throughout the campaign.
What would you do differently on the affordable housing issue, for example? Yeah, the affordable housing belongs in our transit hubs and urban centers. What does that mean? Places where there's infrastructure, places where there's mass transit, places where there's jobs.
The Murphy administration, with the help of the Trenton Democrats, has been placing high density workforce, affordable housing in very, very suburban rural communities where there is no mass transit, where there is no infrastructure, where there are no jobs, which all of which only puts more idling cars on the road. I mean, it flies in the face of their position on sustainability seems awfully hypocritical to me.
So we need to drive population growth toward our urban centers again and get them off of the state government dependency because they have their own sustainable local economy. One of your Republican opponents, it's a crowded race on both sides of the aisle, but one of your Republican opponents, state Senator John Bramnick, has said he wants to cut billions in spending by focusing on pork in the state budget. But then one of the Democrats in the race, Congresswoman Mikey Sherrill, said,
says you've promised to quote Doge, New Jersey, referring to the government efficiency cuts at the federal level. What would you do or want to do? Because the legislature is involved too, obviously. But what would you want to do with the state budget? And New Jersey's notoriously high taxes.
Phil Murphy has increased spending 60 percent in eight years time. It's gone from 36 billion. Chris Christie's last budget to Phil Murphy's eighth and final budget, 58 billion dollars, 22 billion. And you can't tell me there isn't waste and efficiency or some degree of fraud taking place in all that spending. There is a lot of hard, a whole lot of pork barrel spending on pet
projects for Democratic legislators, that comes out. But that's just scratching the surface in terms of what we have to do to get spending under control. So we're going to closely examine each and every program, each and every dollar that's spent, but we have to decrease the size of our state government. It's one of the reasons why we have an affordability crisis in New Jersey. But let me also say this. We can't cut or tax our way, which is what Phil Murphy is now trying to do, tax our way out of the fiscal problems we have in Trenton.
We have to grow our economy. So what we really need is a pro-business governor. And I've got a number of very specific policy proposals that will grow our economy, create more jobs, which creates more income tax and more sales tax because there's more people here, more people working, more people buying. That's the way to afford any necessary increases in our state budget, not by raising more taxes on the most
overtaxed people in the nation. Other candidates in the race, especially the Democrats, argue that having Trump support and embracing Trump policies will be a liability, at least in the general election this fall. Are you at all concerned about voters who are either not aligned with the president or may think that he's taken certain things too far?
That's a losing strategy. They're going to want to talk about Medicare. They're going to want to talk about Medicaid. They're going to want to talk about Social Security. They're going to want to talk about President Trump. And I remind people every single day, what are those things and what does President Trump have to do with the highest property taxes in the nation?
What does he have to do with us slipping from 2 to 12 on the national report card in our K through 12 system? What does he have to do with all the overdevelopment in our suburbs? What does he have to do with handcuffing our local police with these liberal policies that allowed for increases in nonviolent crime? He doesn't have anything to do with any of that.
Why is it that my opponent doesn't want to talk about New Jersey? So this is real simple. If you want four more years of Phil Murphy's failed policies, more continuation of a 25 year rule of a party that's out of touch and arrogant about their power, I guess you'll vote Democrat. But if you want change, if you truly want change in New Jersey, you're going to vote for Jack Cittarelli and his legislative Republicans.
There's not much time left now until the Republican primary. What's your strategy for these closing days of this first hurdle?
To remind everybody, there's only one guy on the Republican side that can win in November, and that's Jack Ciatarelli. We came awfully close in 2021. We bring a very special positive energy to campaign. We've raised more money than the other five Republican gubernatorial candidates combined. I'm someone that has coattails. Back in 21, we had our most successful night in 34 years. And I have the president's endorsement because of all the above. And I'm honored to have that endorsement.
But the goal is to win in November. There's only one guy who could do that. President Trump agrees. It's Jack Ciatarelli. Are you hoping that President Trump will campaign with you?
Absolutely. Again, two million New Jerseyans voted for him last November. And as I said before, 600,000 more than voted for Phil Murphy back in 21. His poll numbers are significantly better than Phil Murphy's. And he's done things he said he was going to do specific to New Jersey with the wind farms, with congestion pricing and what he's doing on the salt deduction. That's all good for New Jersey. Is there any one thing, any one message that
that you think is not getting to voters in the race at this point?
I really don't. And a lot of that has to do with the fact that I've got a magnificent team and nobody campaigns harder than I do. We're going right from here to another one of our town halls. We have three or four a week. We hit diners all up and down the state every day of the week. We go wherever Republicans are gathering and spread with them the good word on how we're going to win November. So no real concerns. Former State Assemblyman Jack Cittarelli, New Jersey, Republican candidate for governor. Thank you very much for your time. Good luck. Thank you.
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million on this initiative and are using the funds to study the syntax, language, and content that gains attention and virality in these spaces. Democrats are that out of touch with reality and normal people. They're spending millions of dollars on a pathetic endeavor to learn how to talk to and relate to young men. As much as I hate to help them out, I'd like to point out that if your party has to study and strategize on a large scale how to talk to young men, you're already too far gone to climb out of that hole. Good luck.
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