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Welcome to the Charlie Kirk Show. Andrew Colvin in for Charlie, who is on assignment at Washington State University. Honored to be with you all. We talk with Ann Fundner, who lost her son tragically to fentanyl. We talk about what is happening at the border, how it is
Trump dealing with fentanyl, where is it at? How much is getting through? What can be done to stop it? We also talk about the tragic FSU shooting as alerts came in while we were on the air as that breaking news story unfolds. And then we talk about
- The update in Carmelo Anthony's case out of Texas with his spokesman, Dominique Alexander, excoriating Austin Metcalf's dad, Jeff, for daring to show up at a press conference. The whole thing's bizarre and insane. We break it down as it comes.
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It's the Trump effect. And yes, it's at the border, but it's specific to fentanyl. In 2023 and 2024, there was an average of 2,000 pounds monthly in 85 seizure events under Joe Biden of fentanyl. In October...
of 2024, so right around the election, to January 2025, that average fell from 2,000 pounds to 990 pounds monthly in 47 seizure events. In February of 2025, seizures plummeted to just 590 pounds in 45 seizure events. To put this in perspective, that is
countless tens of thousands, if not 100,000 or more lives saved just in the drop of fentanyl at the border. And to help me
describe all of this and to put a personal story on it is Ann Fundner who is a mom and she is an advocate for the stopping of fentanyl crossing our borders and poisoning our children. Ann, welcome to The Charlie Kirk Show. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. It's an honor to have you. We wanted to have you on for quite a while at this point and this story still resonates so loudly and
And I just wanna bring our audience up to speed of this powerful moment that you had at the RNC. I mean, I was there in Milwaukee. I remember this moment. I remember when you went on stage. I remember everybody in the whole complex talking about it afterwards. Let's go ahead and play cut 306. - Family and I were living in Southern California when President Biden took office and opened our borders. My Westin was 15.
And in a moment of peer pressure, he tried something that someone gave to him, and it took my baby's life. We did everything right. I had those conversations with him, and fentanyl still found my son. And on February 27, 2022, our lives were shattered, and our baby was gone. It was not an overdose. It was a poisoning.
His whole future, everything we ever wanted for him was ripped away in an instant. And Joe Biden does nothing. I hold Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, the borders are. What a joke. And Gavin Newsom and every Democrat who supports open borders responsible for the death of my son.
It's incredibly, an incredibly powerful moment. And, um, and you were so brave for doing that in front of that, in that, that audience, in that context, in that forum, tell us more about your personal story and your son. Well, my son was just, he's a really sweet kid. He was a good kid. He was so warm hearted, had a lot of friends. He was very well liked. Um,
He always stood up for what was right and wasn't afraid to tell people, you know, that, you know, just to cut it out if they were, you know, not being nice to someone. He always stood up for what was right, even if it was against one of his friends picking on someone. He just was generous. He was kind. He played sports. He was smart, had a good GPA, went to church twice a week. Very strong faith, which I...
cling to um because I know where he is and um you know his life had a purpose but he was my everything he he was my firstborn and I never knew what love was or that my heart had that kind of love in me until I met him and so he you know it was just it was a shock it was
blindsided. And my lesson to everybody is I assure you this could happen to you. So that's what I'm doing, crusading. And you have not stopped since the RNC. I mean, you have been busy crisscrossing the country, raising awareness for this important issue and educate our audience on how fentanyl actually gets into the country. Where does it start?
I know much has been made of China's role in this, gets smuggled in through the southern border and elsewhere. Tell us how it gets into America and how it ends up poisoning our children.
So it starts in China where these factories make illicit fentanyl, the precursor chemicals. It's then shipped to Mexico to the cartels where who knows who, you know, not a chemist that works for, you know, Merck or Pfizer. It's somebody who probably, you know, has no idea what they're doing, sprinkles it into a bunch of blue press powder and they press it with,
the exact markings of pharmaceutical pills. From there, it comes over our open borders. And, you know, I think you mentioned that under Joe Biden, they were seizing about 2,000 pounds a month. And that's not nearly what comes over here. That's the tip of the iceberg, the very tip. So...
you know, it comes over through that. It also comes over through the de minimis loophole. President Trump just put triple tariffs on Timu and Sheen because anything under $800 does not have to be inspected when it comes from overseas. And, you know, Timu and Sheen being somewhat social media, kind of like a little bit of an Amazon one, you know, one's for fashion, one's like Amazon. They have private sender shipping things over.
And fentanyl bricks were coming over that way. And so that's it just, you know, those are the two ways, the main ways it comes over, but it's still coming over in ways we don't know. And that's what we're getting to the bottom of. And there's a stockpile over here. So it's not going to stop all of a sudden. Multi-billion dollar corporations called the cartels don't shut down overnight and neither do the thousands of factory workers in China.
So this is a business, make no mistake. These are CEOs making a lot of money and they don't intend to shut down anytime soon. So we still need to fight every single day. Absolutely. Well, we've got to root out all these loopholes. This is, you know, please, and we want to be a part of that. So please message us after this segment of what we need to be focusing our attention on because we want to advocate on behalf of families like yours, on behalf of families like mine.
And you made this point, I think, so beautifully, both here but also at the RNC, how you guys did everything you could to love your children so well. You did nothing wrong. It was the failure of leadership that let this happen. And nowhere is that more clearly visible than at the southern border. And I want to emphasize this point, Anne, when you have...
The morale of our border patrol agents was dangerously low. But not only that, they were overwhelmed. They became paper processing staffers of the federal government, essentially. They were not allowed to do their job. And now in an about face that is truly historic, and we have, I believe, a graphic that will demonstrate this for you visually, 312, go ahead and throw that up.
They were the amount of border crossers that were coming over were overwhelming our border patrol agents. So they weren't able to do searches and seizures like they normally would or would want to do. And now we have the numbers at such a place and you can see how they plummeted under President Trump.
where there is enough personnel to do more searches. So we're going to be getting more of this fentanyl per search, per seizure, per operation than we would have before when they were completely overwhelmed and overrun at the border. And so there's reporting now
Todd Bensman, who comes on this show often, has done reporting of this in The Daily Wire, that the cartels are actually realizing they're not able to smuggle as much of this fentanyl across the border, thank God. Unfortunately, they're turning their sights on Europe and other countries. They're now shipping it abroad to those countries, which, thank God, it's not in our country. But this needs to be rooted out where it originates. And that's China. That's with tariffs and so much more.
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as young Americans and old Americans, by the way. One of the producers on this show knows two people that lost children to fentanyl poisoning. But we see this dichotomy with the way Democrats react to the illegal immigration problem. And they seem to have so much compassion for
for this Kilmar Abrego Garcia guy that is likely an MS-13 gang member who apparently beat his wife, who lied to immigration courts, and he's been deported to El Salvador, his home country. They're getting on planes right now, flying to go get him. And they say bring him home, even though his home is El Salvador. But they don't seem to care about people like Rachel Morin or your son. And I want to play this clip again
From Patty Morin, I think it's really powerful. And she's angry. And I want to get your reaction on the other side. 244. No, actually, I'm very angry. I'm actually outraged. But I'm too sad at the moment to show anger at the same time. He did not call our family. He did not give condolences. There was no action on the Democrat side.
Democratic Party in any way from Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Mayorkas, anyone here in Maryland, none of the senators did anything to help search for the murderer of my daughter. Your reaction and to.
Patty's moment's very touching. What's your reaction when you see that? Well, I love Patty. She's a friend of mine. We're angel parents together, and we've done some things together in this fight.
So she's a wonderful person with an incredible, compassionate and warm heart. You know, to see her up there upset with one of her own senators who was flying over to El Salvador to try to get someone to come back who is here illegally, who happens to probably be part of a gang, who does have...
two orders of protection against him for who knows what. And I'm hearing some other things come out today that he's been involved with that just it's disgusting the way these Democrats protect people that aren't supposed to be here. And you have to question why.
With the open borders, what I used to call it was the Future Voters of America program. How many people can they get over here to show allegiance to them for letting them come over to vote for them in the future? And I believe that's what it's all about. And that's why Democrats are so open to all of this change.
open border and all these illegal immigrants coming over unchecked, unvetted, whether or not they want to come here for the right reasons or not, they're here illegally. And that's not part of what America is all about. Yeah, I mean, I think it's pretty transparent too. And you've seen what Doge has uncovered as far as how many of these illegals have gotten social security numbers and how many have gotten welfare benefits and they just get smuggled into the system, laundered into the system and
And the amount of work that the Trump administration has before them to unravel the tangled web that has been in the destruction that's been sown by the Democrats in four small years, four short years, they were able to do so much damage.
to this country and to rip apart families like yours. And I, you know, we've seen there's, there's polling out that is showing from CNN, Harry Enten, CNN saying that in 2016, only 38% of Americans wanted to deport all illegal immigrants. Now it's at 56%. So this message is winning with real Americans, even as the,
legacy media tries to trumpet up rage and outrage through their shrinking size of the piece of the media, the pies here. So, Anne, I just want you to give one message to the Trump administration, to our leaders. Give them the encouragement that only somebody like you could, Anne, who's gone through what you've gone through. What is your message to them?
Well, first of all, I would love to say thank you, which I actually got the opportunity to do a few weeks ago on stage with President Trump because he's doing all the right things. There's been a 98% drop in border crossings. That is incredible. And he's put all the right people in all the right places. He started working on the de minimis loophole. He's dealing with China, Canada, and Mexico right now. He's labeled the cartels foreign terrorist organizations. And he's
through Pam Bondi. She has also labeled fentanyl a weapon of mass destruction because this is a poison. This is more potent than cyanide.
That's a poison. People don't know they're taking it. When people don't know they're doing something, it's not an overdose. It's a poisoning. Our kids can't learn from their mistakes. They're dying from them. So what I would say to the Trump administration and President Trump is thank you. Thank you for doing all the right things. Thank you for the continued strength and courage you have to do even more to keep America safe. Amen. Thanks, Sam.
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Blake Neff, are you with me? Yep, you got me, Charlie. Andrew? It happens a lot, by the way. Oftentimes I'll call people and they'll think that I'm Charlie. I don't know if it's like our voices have melded together over the years and we just sort of sound similar. I'm not sure what that is. So there's a couple stories. I want to get to Iran because this is a massive, massive story that's going to continue on. It's going to continue on.
um there are the drums of war are beating in washington dc blake and we have some new intel if the reporting's correct that there's there's some very specific people within the administration that have worked to derail these war plans tell us about this story yeah andrew so this came out uh this came out yesterday uh late yesterday and what the story is is it says that
Basically, since last fall, there's been the development of plans for a series of airstrikes on Iran's nuclear facilities. As described in the reporting, I think the New York Times had it first, or at least with the most detail. They said that...
The idea was to do strikes on Iran's facilities that could, it said, set them back by about a year in terms of pursuing a nuclear weapon. And the idea was the strikes would be conducted by Israeli jets, but inevitably they would probably need U.S. support, buy-in. There was even discussion that we would give more direct support by, for example, moving U.S. jets in.
into Israel, which I'm not sure, but I don't know if America's ever actually based our own fighter aircraft in Israel before. So it might be a new step.
But anyway, there was this buildup. There was building more and more momentum. And then other figures in the administration pushed back, said we should not race towards war. We should focus on diplomacy. And they said that – first, I'll read directly from The New York Times. Tulsi Gabbard, director of national intelligence, presented a new intelligence assessment –
that said the buildup of American weaponry in the Middle East could potentially spark a wider conflict with Iran that the United States did not want.
And then it goes on to say that Chief of Staff Susie Wiles, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Vice President J.D. Vance all voiced doubts about the attack. And so certainly for us, this feels like a great vindication. We were big supporters of J.D. Vance as vice president. And of course, Trump's picks for Tulsi Gabbard, Pete Hegseth.
And I think, you know, we just said a moment ago on Twitter that could you imagine the people in those exact jobs before where we had John Kelly as chief of staff? We had James Mattis as secretary of defense. We had Mike Pence as vice president. Could you imagine any of those guys there?
stopping a march toward war with Iran the exact opposite we had I believe our President Trump's first Director of National Intelligence stepped away because he was thought we weren't hawkish enough on Iran so we're really seeing the difference in the personalities the difference in perspectives that we've brought to the second administration on this extremely important topic.
Well, Blake, you know what this made me think of is the signal gate, right? Where you saw J.D. Vance weigh in and basically say, listen, you know, do we have to really do this now? You know, maybe we need to build up the
the PR for this, the messaging for this, we need to get our plans in place. And Hegseth was like, Hey, listen, we can do this now. I don't think there's, you know, we're going to benefit by waiting. We've got to clear these sea lanes and nobody else can, but you saw that back and forth. And, and I think importantly, you saw, um, JD Vance being a skeptic, um, instantly his, his,
perspective on it was that we should be skeptical of getting embroiled in these Middle East quagmires. I think in the Sea Lane story, Signal Gate, there was a different calculus. They were disrupting ships and vessels and they were firing at U.S. ships
And so obviously they were different calculus. They made a different decision. In that instance, they decided to move forward. But I love that there is this initial skepticism from the traditional, you know, drums of war, Washington, D.C., you know, military industrial complex, business as usual, right?
and that you're seeing this play out in such a way that gives us more time with Iran. For example, we've been told all week that there's going to be this meeting
in Rome, I believe, with Iran to see about peace talks. And President Trump has said that he wants Iran to be a great country, a great place to live. He wants the people to thrive, but they will not have a nuclear weapon. And so you see these dynamics within this administration and Trump 2.0 though, to your point, Blake, you couldn't imagine this type of skepticism,
caution. We know that President Trump is not afraid to use lethal force. He used the mother of all bombs, of course, to take out Soleimani. He took out ISIS. He's not afraid to use weapons of war to defend the American interests when those American interests are properly represented. But this is a really powerful display of
of the contrarians within the office. I think, to your point, Blake, I think Americans should look at this and be very, very grateful that we have prudent, thoughtful people in leadership. Yeah, exactly. We're seeing... There's so many times where when you look at it in the past... I was just reviewing the other day the process that led us towards the Iraq War. And what popped up so often was that...
They it was this lack of willingness to question things too much. In fact, the funny thing was, is I was reading that like the British government, which was helping us with that. They were tricked by an intelligence estimate of Iraq's WMDs that was based on a guy watching the Michael Bay action movie The Rock, which had a fake WMD in it. And it was just you had to ask basic questions. You had to pause and say, OK.
wait, is this in fact a good idea? And for decades, America didn't have that impulse, and it led to so many bad interventions. It led to Iraq, of course, but it also led to Libya. Libya is a great example where they just sort of staggered into this war without seriously asking anything.
Are we being told the truth here? Do we have a plan for how this will go long term? What are we going to do if there's unexpected consequences to this? Now we have people in the government who are asking that question, and it's very likely it's going to save us billions of dollars and quite possibly many thousands of American lives.
Blake, I think we're going to pivot a little bit just for this FSU story. And then we've got the Dominique Alexander, Carmelo Anthony update as well. But, you know, I think we can put a button on this and say, you know, thank God for J.D. Vance, Susie Wiles, Pete Hegseth for voicing the
skepticism and doubt being slow to a really intense action here so uh fsu we're getting news reports let's go ahead and play cut 315 honestly i just hope everyone's okay and i hope that like we can just do better precautions so this doesn't happen again and i just feel awful for the students on there having to go through these emotions right now dealing with the like
feeling scared for their lives, honestly. It's really scary. And you said you had friends on campus at the time? Yes, right now they're still on campus. They're on lockdown right now. And you've heard from them? They're doing okay? Yep. Texted them. They just said they're scared. They're in lockdown and they just want to go home.
Is there anything else you want to add? No, I just hope everyone's okay, praying for the people that are injured, and I just hope we can do better in the future. And let's go ahead and play Cut 316. This is FBI and local police are on scene. Dan Bongino's been tweeting that they have resources en route. Let's go ahead and 316.
Sorry. Amen to that. No college student should have to live through this type of fear. Nicole, why do you believe that they wouldn't immediately make aware if they have someone in custody who that person is?
Because there might be a co-conspirator, there may be another person involved, they may not want to tip anybody off at this point, but right now I can tell you having responded to multiple mass shootings, it really is chaotic. And so everyone is trying to do the best that they can. So we're getting initial reports, and again I want to caution and just say these are initial reports from local news sources that are saying five students dead, or at least people dead could be
non-students on campus. Five dead, four injured. It looks like that is five dead, four injured in active shooter incident at FSU. Law enforcement said, go ahead and throw that screen grab. That's from WFTV.com.
nine in Florida. So not a great situation there. As more details, to say the least, as more details come in, we will be monitoring that situation actively. So prayers up for FSU. Yeah, I mean, it's just a horrible situation, obviously, and nothing that we want to see happen. I mean, this is, you know, one speculates about the incident, obviously,
Is there a second shooter? Is this person in custody? You know, are they still alive? Did they have they been killed by campus PD? Is this a gun free campus? I'm not 100 percent sure. And with Florida, I know they have very, very pro Second Amendment laws, concealed carry as well.
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And first of all, there's like, why are you having a press conference? And then Austin Metcalf, the young man that was stabbed to death, his father, Jeff, shows up.
And is getting escorted away. Are you, do we have our details here right? So it's still, it's still emerging a bit. And we might, we can probably show clips after the, after the jump. But it seems, yeah, that they are holding a press conference, the attorney and the defendant. Which, you know, that happens. But what's shocking is, yeah, apparently Austin Metcalf's father, is it Jeff Metcalf, I believe? He showed up at...
at the event, at the press conference, and we don't know precisely the chain of events, but we have footage that I believe we're showing on screen right now that shows
police spoke with him. Some people are saying that they called the police. Maybe police were already there. It could also be security. We're unraveling this. And then it seems that he was escorted out or asked to leave. And then they held the press conference where we also have footage where this Dominique Alexander blasts Jeff Metcalf and said it was disrespectful for him to attend this press conference. Let us remind everyone his son was murdered. His son was murdered and...
Like, I'm not going to judge how he chooses to react to that, but we'll be getting a lot more of this. This is clearly inflaming a lot of passions, and I don't think it's going to slow down anytime soon because, well, we have an entire murder trial in front of us over this. Well, and I want to just make one other point here. It's almost like they're intentionally inflaming racial tensions here because Dominique Alexander, the guy representing the family when Trump won, said that white supremacy had won.
And Carmelo Anthony stabbed 17-year-old Austin Metcalf at a track meet at Frisco High School in Texas over a seating dispute. And all of these people are coming out of the woodwork raising all this money for his family and his legal defense fund, which they've apparently used partly to buy a new home in a gated community, a $900,000 new home. And now they're doing a press conference.
And out of apparently unbeknownst to Carmelo Anthony's family and Dominique Alexander, Jeff Metcalf, the father, shows up and it looks like chaos ensues. Let's go ahead and play cut 317. And all I'm going to say, so it don't be asked later, is that was disrespectful and just shows you all the character who was not invited in.
He knows that it's inappropriate to be near this family, but he did it. And so I say to people, actions speak louder than words, okay? What he has failed into is the political operatives that want to make this thing a political thing of hate, yet bigotry, and yet racism. We have conservative operatives that have been posting nonstop
about this case. Blake, what on earth is he talking about? First of all, I'm trying really hard to place that accent that he had, but no, it's, that's what we have here is we have what, I mean, should be a pretty straightforward tragedy of a violent individual who,
wildly escalates and stabs somebody to death because I believe the detail was he was under like the tent of an opposing team at a track event. He was told he had to leave and he basically said like, touch me again and see what happens. And then Austin Metcalf grabbed him allegedly. And he replied by pulling out a knife and stabbing him to death.
And now it's just become this cause celeb. They've raised hundreds of thousands of dollars. Some people believe it was self-defense, but you also find comments that are just people saying like, man, he was disrespecting him or like, I'm so mad that I would have had to leave. But like he should, it really is this attitude that like, because Austin Metcalfe angered him or like impose him in any way, he deserved to get stabbed to death. And yeah, there's- And by the way,
Yeah, and I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I just have to say this was not self-defense. I don't care what anybody thinks. This was a high school, you know, conference. These happen daily on campuses all across the country, and you don't pull out a knife and stab somebody. I'm sorry. There's no justification for that. It was not about race. It was two kids in a high school track field at a meet that got into a little altercation. So what?
Live and let live. Move on. This was not worth this moment. And for him to sit there at that podium, Jeff Metcalf came out the day after his son was murdered and said, this isn't about race. I don't want anybody to make this about race. And then Dominique Alexander, which was weird, but again, I'm trying not to judge his reaction. But then Dominique Alexander gets up there and claims that his presence there is somehow trying to racialize this or make this conservative political operatives or whatever.
this is insane to me uh but but take it away finish this off here it's it's tragic and i think it's going to get more tragic because unfortunately a lot of people want to turn this into something bigger and i think it would be nicer if we could agree it's just bad to murder someone and there are consequences for that but some people disagree with that and they're going to stake a lot on it you're unfortunately right thanks so much for joining everybody talk to you soon
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