If It Can Happen In Australia, It Can Happen Here ft. Andrew Sedra
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We are like 10 years ahead of you guys with the leftist agenda. You think we're that far ahead? Yeah, and I think England is 10 years ahead of Australia. England is pretty much way... So we're 20 years behind England?

Yeah, well, depending on the border, because that border is very funny, isn't it? Because they can just open it. You don't even know the acceleration rate. It's incredible. It's mind-blowing. Like, I can't believe we live in a moment where having a border for your country is controversial. Yeah, it's racist. And that's coming from a refugee. So, everybody, this is Andrew Sedra. He's amazing. He's from Australia. And he is, I think...

The most targeted pastor in Australia, is that fair to say? Yeah, man. Well, we had the town police come to our church a few months ago, actually. They came to investigate me. It was actually the anti-terrorism police.

So how funny is it? They investigate me for Islamophobia. So we escaped the Middle East because Muslims want to kill us. This is a paradox of a leftist liberal world. The victim is a perpetrator and the perpetrator is a victim. It's welcome to social justice. So they wanted to come to investigate me, what they call a hate incident. So remember, they always talk about hate crimes, white people, whatever. Now they have what they call a hate incident.

Which is like a lot deeper. So now they're trying to change the law, not to just be what you did, but what you said. And not just your action, but your intention. So they were pretty much trying to set me up.

So I didn't do anything. I was like, yeah, man, you should probably go to the mosque down the road. We don't do hate speech in church. On top of that, Jesus said, love your enemy. Like, right? I'm like, we don't do this stuff. Like, I'm still waiting for the right wing Christian nationalist terrorist that doesn't exist. We actually had a Muslim little boy stab a priest 30 minutes down the road from us during his sermon while screaming Allahu Akbar.

We actually have the Muslims right now protesting across Australia against the Jews. They literally were screaming. You guys probably came across a video in front of the Sydney Opera House. Gas the Jews. Yes, that's right. And guess what the federal police said a few weeks ago, a few months ago? They were not screaming, gas the Jews. They were saying, where is the Jews? I'm like, why would 200 Muslim men look for Jews? To cuddle them? Like to hug them or something?

And I'm like, actually, they probably were not looking for the Jews. They're probably looking for the Jews. So they were like, where's the Jews? I'm like, where's my shoes? I'm like, why would 400 people look for the shoes at the same time? Very weird, right? But this is the current reality is that we're manipulating facts and evidence of peace and war. You even saw it with the January 6th versus the assassination of President Trump. I'm like, they're literally perverting morality and reality.

The terrorist is now the victim, and the victim is now the terrorist. Let me make sure I understand this, that the anti-terrorism police in Australia visits a Christian church, and they officially ask you questions that could be used against you in a court of law. Well, because there's nothing, they're trying to find for something. Well, of course, but that would be the equivalent of our FBI. State FBI. FBI.

So it's like the state one. Okay, but fair enough. But it's still they have terrorism jurisdiction. It was a terrorism squad. He actually gave me the card. So for example, we're in Australia. Are you in Sydney? Sydney. So if ISIS was in Sydney, these guys would be in charge? Yeah, the ISIS police. Literally. So they put Christianity in the same bucket as ISIS. Yeah, of course. So what is your crime?

Well, what is the suspicion? Hate incident. Right. Which I don't even know what does it see. It's the war of words and worldviews. What does it even mean? This is so important. So Andrew has been very outspoken. This is what his crime is against the lavender mafia, against the LGBTQ community.

Cult. Yeah. The cabal. Yeah. What have you said that has warranted an anti-terrorism? So the LGBTQ guys, the police came once, but this one particularly was about Islamophobia. Oh, this one was Islamic? Islamophobia. Oh, okay. So that was hilarious. But they visited previously about the gay stuff, right? Yeah, yeah. The gay stuff, they come, but they keep on talking to you. You preach to them, they leave at this point of time. Okay.

But eventually, they're playing with the laws. Like, it's only a matter of time before... You believe you'll end up in prison. Well, by the way they're speaking, like, England at the moment with the current guy, they're trying to redefine Islamophobia. Correct. To mean racism.

So it's pretty obvious where they're going to land. I don't think that they're just choosing the right time. And you guys kind of saw the drama between our prime minister, Anthony Albanese and Elon Musk. They banned the video of a Christian pastor getting stabbed from Australia. I'm like, that's what the kid did. And then the prime minister was like, oh, it was, they were like, oh, it's a, it's motivated. Well, number one, they didn't want to release it. It was a Muslim.

So the little boy screamed Allahu Akbar as he was stabbing the priest. So I was the first one to post. It was a Muslim. And the people were not, oh, it's the Jews. I'm like, why would a Jew go stab a priest? I've never seen a Jew or a Buddhist or even a liberal go to the church to stab someone. Let alone say Allahu Akbar. And then he said, Allahu Akbar. Thank God I can speak Arabic. And then my friends were there and then they sent me a video. And the boy said, it's because he insulted my prophet.

So it was... Tons of Jews say that. Yeah. I'm like, what prophet, man? Jews are very peaceful. Actually, Jews are more LGBTQ than they are... No, that's correct. Yeah, so 8 out of 10 Jews vote Democrat in Australia. Hilarious. It's 9 out of 10 here in America. Yeah, so in Australia, the Jews, you know, champion socialists.

But they're moving obviously to the right because the left here will end up anti-Israel. It's a non-negotiable. Well, they are. I mean, the left hates Jews. Yeah. So it's quite ironic what's happening. And in Australia at the moment, I think probably in four or five years, we're shifting from supporting Israel to recognizing Palestine, which is the terrorist state, really.

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So this is a, we had Calvin Robinson on previously and he said,

This idea of mass migration. So you came from the Middle East. You're a rare case of someone who shed the Islamic tradition. But you had a Coptic background. Is that right? Or your father was a preacher, right? Is that correct? Yeah, so my dad had an encounter with the Holy Spirit. So he became born again. There was a massive revival. And they tried to kill him. Yeah, so what happened to him was, so he was preaching the gospel. See, one of the biggest issues you're facing is that eventually someone's going to ask you about your faith. And it's illegal to speak it.

Leftists are happy for you to worship Jesus and sing Kumbaya songs as long as you don't do it outside of the church walls. They call it freedom of worship, but they don't mean that. What they really mean, shut up and have church on Sunday.

So as the same as Islam, that's why the LGBTQ and the Muslims, they love each other. They're very, they're like the best friends, even though they're contradiction. They get along together, gays for Gaza or queers for Palestine. It's simply because they both hate America. They both hate Christianity. And this is the reason they hate freedom and they hate the West.

The West and America represent everything they don't believe in. So my dad converted a particular person to Christianity, just a Muslim lady. In Egypt? In Egypt, and baptized her. So they wanted to kill the whole family. And the Muslim government, moderate Islam, they wanted to arrest my dad and put him in jail. That's what tends to happen. So we escaped to Thailand in 2007. We acted like we were going on a band trip to play music. It was very funny.

I'm not sure why would people go to Thailand to play music who speak Arabic. And then from there, we ended up in Australia as religious refugees in 2007. So you're the exception, but Australia has imported tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of Muslims. Is that correct? Yeah, look, yeah. And like I was talking to my wife today, I was like,

America, we've been here for the last three weeks. America is a very Christian nation. It's in the soul. It's in the land. Everything is generous, big, capitalist, expensive. The only way to destroy America is to open the borders. Like I thought about it. That's so smart. I was like, there are churches everywhere, man.

Look, what the heck? Many of them are empty, unfortunately. But yes, it's better than your country. Yeah, our church in Australia is called the City of Small Churches. The average size of a church is 25 to 29, which all glory, thank the Lord for George Washington. He freed you guys from the English. So I was going to tell President Trump, can you guys invade Australia if you...

Well, annexed. Jokes, guys, because if the police comes to me, it's a joke. This is very smart. So you're looking at this as an outsider, looking and marveling at our country, which is worthy of marvel, saying that the only way you destroy this beautiful country. Immigration. I love America. I love America. And the reason I love America, because if it wasn't for America, a lot of more Christians in the Middle East would be killed.

I was listening to President Trump's speech yesterday. He's the only president that actually advocated for religious freedom across the world. President Trump is not anti the world. He's America first, but he's not America alone. He's the only president that actually cares about Christians getting beheaded in the Middle East. That's why he destroyed ISIS. Love him or hate him, but the reality is we need Trump. I think one of the big reasons people like me are not arrested at this point of time is because of America.

Because it's going to look – see, leftists love to look democratic, but they're not. But they love to look democratic. Like, for example, sorry to interrupt. If Donald Trump is president, God willing, and they arrest you, I would go to the White House and be like, go put a tariff on Australia immediately.

And like, they know that. They know that. They know that Trump would be like, yeah, we're sanctioning you. And you would be out by lunchtime. And I'm telling you, man, Australia is very scared of America and very scared of the public perception. So that's why the prime minister backed off once Elon Musk had tension with him. You guys came across the incident. So I love America and I'm very grateful for America because it is because of America I'm able to preach the gospel on the other side of the world. That's the truth.

That is the truth. Whether people like it or not, we are very... I'm very grateful that I live in a moment of time where Christianity is the superpower of the world. By the way, most people never had that. It is a very massive blessing. And that's why the left have done two things. Number one, they have...

weaponize the LGBTQ sex ideology to criminalize Christianity because we don't kill people. We don't do that stuff. And secondly, open borders. The purpose of open borders is to destroy a civilization from within very quickly. It's very quick. We look at Australia now. There's more gay flags than Australian flags.

You see every single, they call it multiculturalism. I don't believe in multiculturalism. I think multi-ethnicity. Multiculturalism is a joke. It's a joke. I didn't leave Egypt to live in Egypt. I left Egypt to live in Australia. A Western civilization, right? But what multiculturalism is, and they're trying to bring it in America. I'm looking now. They're very big on multiculturalism because multiculturalism is their way of destroying the flag.

It's their way of undermining the constitution. And Australia, we are already there. Like, we don't really have a country. We are this multicultural joke. It doesn't mean anything.

That's so sad. It's sad. Because there was a time when you guys were Aussies and you had an identity. It's very sad. And you were a tough nation that was overlooked upon. Like the 2000 Olympics was kind of like a triumph, right? The 2000 was the moment where Australia have taken the liberal road. So that was where it happened. Around 2000. That's when you had the Sydney Olympics, turn of the millennia.

And we literally had on the Harbour Bridge on our end of year celebration, eternity. Now, last year or the year before, we had pride. So this was very prophetic. We can clearly see what Australia has become. It went from a God-fearing nation to a godless nation.

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As a Christian pastor, when Donald Trump says we should stop importing...

millions of people from the Middle East who are Muslim. Common sense stuff. It's common sense. Like, I'm very radical. I think Islam should not be allowed to America. And the reason I say that, I'm probably going to get arrested for that. Actually, you're allowed to say it in this country. We have free speech laws. That is a radical view, but please, tell us why. But you're allowed to have radical views in America. The issue is, though, Islam doesn't believe in nations.

Islam is a one-world totalitarian ideology pretending to be a religion. Islam is not a religion. Muhammad was not a peaceful prophet. He was a warlord. And this is the reality people don't want to face. It's politically incorrect. It's not very tolerant. But guess what? Tolerance is not a Christian virtue. It's a liberal virtue. The Bible is not about tolerance. It's about repentance. But the issue is you're facing no Muslim believes in the First Amendment.

Maybe 1% to 5% are liberals, but 95% of Muslims do not believe in the First Amendment. You guys literally saw them in Washington, D.C., burning the Australian flag, man. Like, they literally, you welcomed them into your nation, and they're burning your flag? Like, what kind of... Hey, diversity is our strength, Andrew. And that's the problem I have with Muslims. I'm like, you left your Muslim nation, and that's why they probably want to kill me. We get a lot of death threats from them. Um...

You left your Muslim nation, we want American Muslim. Then why don't you go back home? It's already Muslim. I actually don't understand. Well, it's because isn't it an ideology of conquest? Exactly. It's a political ideology pretending to be a religion. Islam is a one world, so they don't believe in nations. If you study the Quran, it's what you call Ummah. What is Ummah? The one world Muslim order. That's the reason you find American Muslims burning their flag.

It's like, what the heck, man? Why do you have a Palestinian flag in Washington, D.C.? This is America. It doesn't make sense. And you speak Arabic and was raised in Egypt. That's the unlucky thing about Muslims. I speak Arabic, so I know what they're doing. You know of what they speak. And so this is not just some sort of a, you know, pent-up hostile...

He's an intolerant person. You're saying this actually out of a cautionary tale for the West. Is that correct? I love the West because the West is Christian and the West is full of liberty. Islam, in its essence, it means peace through surrender or peace through submission. The goal of Islam is ideological, emotional, cultural submission. It's a religion of submission. And the problem with Islam is that it's a utilitarian religion, meaning the end justifies the means.

And in their ethical worldview, they are allowed to lie for the sake of the bigger cause, for the sake of self-defense. And self-defense in Islam does not mean self-defense. Self-defense means if you talk anything about Muhammad, they'll kill you.

So when Muslims say self-defense, they say you can't talk. It really means you can't talk. So the issues you're facing, you've got a religion with a very perverted moral worldview. And I don't believe George Washington, when he said under the blessing of Almighty God, when he said we hold this truth to be self-evident, endowed to everybody by the Creator, that Creator was not Allah. That was the God of the Bible. He was talking about Protestants,

Baptist, Presbyterian. He wasn't even talking about Buddhism. Believe it or not, he was talking about the God of the Bible. And Catholics too, because of Maryland. And Catholics, yeah. But you're right. Christianity, the God of the Bible. Covenantal Christians, for sure. Which is the God of the Jews, Yahweh too. But this is all very important. But what is the theological difference between Ahlaa

And Yahweh? What are the differences and distinctions? So Islam is conquer not by preaching but by power. It's all about power. You can see that clearly in England. Right now across Europe 6,000 mosques are being built.

There is a Muslim revival happening in Europe. And you will see one big European nation in the next 10 to 20 years will become Muslim. London or France. Watch my word. France already is at 10% Muslim. London is at 6%. You mean Britain and the UK? Yeah, UK. Well, the city is already Muslim there. Something is going to happen there that is beyond your wildest dreams in the next 10 years. And everybody knows about it.

I think it was the current President Trump's VP that said, which first Muslim nation is going to have nuclear weapons? And he made a joke, London.

Or UK. Go Google it. You'll find it in your own time. But that's the truth. No, it's totally right. So, and I believe after London, the next goal of Islam will be America. One of the funny things about American history. Unless we prevent mass migration from taking us over. Yeah, unless. We have time. Just so everyone understands, the numbers in America, we're being invaded from our southern border.

thankfully many of which are Christian. So it's a little bit of a different invasion. If Trump wins, though, they do not have the numbers to do what they're doing in the UK here with Islam. I don't think Trump needs to win. You guys need like three to four Republican... I'm telling you, Trump is not going to stop it. He's going to postpone it. And that's the reality. I agree with that. It's...

Yeah, no, but it needs to be a generational change. But understand this. There are two ways to destroy a country quickly, inflation and mass immigration. They are country wreckers, whether it be the Roman Empire, the British Empire. If you have a country and you want that country to cease to exist, you open your borders and you make your currency worth nothing.

So this is very important, and because I really love American history. Most people don't love the countries in the West for some reason. It's very weird. It's very mind-blowing. Don't you love when outsiders love our country more than our own citizens love our country? It's like...

I'm American at heart, I believe. No, it's just so disgusting when I hear these Americans that hate on our own country. I'm inspired by it. So sorry to interrupt you. And the first war that America had was with Muslims. Yeah, that's right. Most people don't know that. It was the Barbary Pirates. 1786. Yeah, that's right. So I got the quote here because a lot of people have forgotten, the West has forgotten their initial enemy, including the left and the liberals.

They don't know what's coming for them. Look what Jefferson and John Adams said about Islam. So I think it was Ottoman Empire, they ended up kidnapping a few American ships, and they took them as slaves. Fun fact, slavery came from the Arabs, not from Americans. Slavery, slavery. I'm like, who was selling them? The Muslims. Like, this is one of the... Cool, you guys had slaves. Who sold the slaves?

Who kidnapped the slaves? Guess what? It was the Arabs. Again, that's a fact that people always overlook. Like, did Americans go to Africa and kidnap black people? Not really. That didn't happen. They bought them, but who kidnapped them? It was a Muslim Arab because Islam was built on a very big economy of slavery. That is a fun fact that they never talk about. Colonization, I'm like, why don't you talk about the Islamic colonization?

Very weird. So Thomas Jefferson and John Adams, when they met the ambassador, I think his name was Abdul Rahman in 1786 in London. Look what they said, because Thomas Jefferson and John Adams were very confused. They thought Islam and a lot of people got confused. You think if you give Islam money, liberty, as every Marxist believes, if we give them money, they're going to abandon religion.

It doesn't work that way. Islam is a very different worldview. It's a very different worldview. That's why you can look in Palestine and you find a woman celebrating her son dying for Allah. Like one of the biggest issues of the Israel versus Palestine war, and I lived in Egypt and I saw radical Muslim kids, is how do you deal with people that love death?

It's a philosophical... Well, the left loves death too. They are a death cult at its core. With abortion and trans and all that. And also there are wars. Like the Ukraine thing is super weird. Like you want another 100,000 people to die? Everything that keeps the neoliberal order together is a death cult. Since George Bush is dead. No, that's right. And by the way, George Bush is a liberal. He's not a Republican. Yeah, he's a neoliberal. You got to be very blessed to have Trump, by the way. If you didn't have Trump, that neoliberal order would have escalated massively.

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So John Adams, because John Adams and Jefferson, they're like, what the hell is that Islam? So the same way that your founder was confused, I believe you are confused. And look what the guy said to him. He said, our country was founded on the laws of our prophet. This is what is written in the Quran. That all nations who have not acknowledged the authority that their right and duty is to make upon them and to make all of them slaves and prisoners.

That is why every Muslim man who should have slain in battle was sure to go to paradise. This is the people you're dealing with. So I don't know how you're supposed to let that through the country. And I'm coming from someone who escaped. They wanted to kill us. And I come here. I'm like, you're welcoming the people that want to kill Christians. So this is a controversial thing to say. No, it's not. The barbarians are in the house.

And here's the key, and then I want to do some questions, which is they will use misapplied Christian virtues against us to destroy the West. They say, well, aren't you supposed to welcome the refugee and welcome the stranger? Yep. And then we're so untrained biblically and not wise and prudent, we open up our borders and we allow foreigners to come in. Sorry, I get annoyed by liberal pastors. Like, I saw a lot of them, and they're really annoying. Like, you got one of them. Can I say names? Yeah.

Yeah. What's his name? Matt Chandler? Yeah, Matt Chandler. What the heck is this crap? Yeah. I'm like, do you understand? I'm a refugee. I'm pro-immigration. I'm like, so nice of you, buddy. I'm like, do you understand that Christians fled the Middle East for safety here?

So immigration, you can't just let everybody in. If they don't subscribe to the constitution, they shouldn't be allowed here. Amen. Isn't that common sense? On our terms, they come. On our terms. And Moses, by the way, when the Bible said to Moses, allow the refugees to Israel,

He did not mean sexual perversion. He did not mean Islam. And he did not mean come in and worship a different God. In fact, for the refugees to be allowed with the people of God, they had to denounce their God and their values. And Moses says in Deuteronomy 28, beware of the stranger because the foreigner will become your master and that you will be working for the foreigner. It is a prophetic word. So this is not biblical. This is misguided liberal empathy.

All right. One or two questions really quick. Who's got one for Andrew? Yes, sir. So quick question. Something you mentioned a few minutes ago was even if President Trump gets back into the White House in 2024, it's going to take more than just that to undo a lot of the damage that's been done. My concern is that I don't know if we're ready for that.

Come 2028, I don't know if the right has done the work or has really put it to their mind, like actually what it's going to take to save the nation. We haven't done the work. You're right. So what can we do? Because January 20th— We need a revival. First, we need a repentance, which leads to revival. You cannot have revival without repentance.

So a political win, hopefully, in my hope, would humble a nation and thank God for his grace to give us another chance at survival. This is my hope. And then politically is we have to now – and this is the hardest part. We have to care about politics as much as the left does. And until that happens, we will lose. And we will not have a candidate in 2028 that is as popular or is as strong or is as able to –

bring out voters as Trump. And we're going to have to figure out how to build the machinery, do the work. And then we have to have four years where we are not wasting a minute or an hour of the Trump presidency. We have to...

We have to we have to do what is called 40 and four. We have to have 40 years of wins in four years. Yeah. And that's the way that Trump has to look at his term. Is that like every day, every hour I'm signing executive orders, I'm doing bills, I'm doing things that would that would be multiple decades. And I think he's prepared to do that. One more question here. Yes.

Pastor Cedra, thanks for coming. My name is Adam Woodward. I'm a local religious liberty attorney here in Florida. And a lot of my friends are pastors or in ministry. And I wanted to know, how do you reach not just –

Thank you.

Just being reluctant, saying just preach the gospel and love people as if politics was not part of that. And also, at worst, espousing, redefining what love means according to the world and not according to scripture so that you get these mealy-mouthed word salads like what Chandler delivered on ideology. Leave the church. Empty the church. Go to a biblically faithful church. Go to a church that is masculine, not feminine.

Go to a church that is led by men, not by women. Go to a church that is courageous. That we have to do that. I agree. And call out the false teachers. Yeah. We can't keep on playing that little game of empathy and inclusivity and diversity. I'm not saying be a heretic hunter. But when there is a problem, we have to address it. By the way, stop tithing to liberal churches. Yes, that's right. Stop it. By the way...

People like these people, they're very empathetic and insecure. I know a lot of them. I have a lot of their friends. And once the offering stops, they're going to change. They're like politicians. See, I believe I'm prophetic, but there's prophets and politicians. Politicians are all about votes. So these people will change.

If it hurts their wallet. 100%. They have no principles. They don't have principles. So stop playing the game. They're going to change. They're not going to change. It's an abusive relationship. They're going to change. They're going to change. Well, after six months, all right, find a church that reflects your value. Amen. Andrew Cedra, everybody. Thank you, guys. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.