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Hey everybody, Charlie Kirk here, live from the Bitcoin.com studio. Yes, there are still men winning championships and taking them from women in the state of California. Gavin Newsom lied to me, of course he did, on...
My podcast with him, he is beholden to his state and to the radical left. We discuss that and also live from Rome, John Yep joins us and describes what the conclave is. And then we also cover how you can make $70,000 a year without a college degree right out of high school. And then finally, why is the left obsessed with poop? Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com and subscribe to our podcast,
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There are men still winning female championships all across the country. President Trump signed an executive order saying no men and female sports, but states are actively defying it. They say, oh, what good is a president? Who cares if you want a popular vote? Who cares if 90% of the country doesn't want this? It's irrelevant to them. Well, the fight is on in California, of course, where Gavin Newsom told me that he had a problem with this. Was Gavin Newsom lying or is he too much of a coward to do anything about it?
Well, joining us now is Sophia Laurie, outreach director for California Family and host of a This Is A Woman podcast. Sophia, welcome to the program. How are you? I'm doing well. Thank you for having me on, Charlie. So, Sophia, tell us the state of affairs, I should say, in California and a little bit nationally. Are men still winning competitions, awards, and medals over female athletes?
Unfortunately, they are, especially in California. You know, Trump put out this great executive order and just days later, CIF, who's the governing body of high school sports in the state of California, said, nope, we're not going to follow it. We're going to continue to allow boys to compete in girls sports, to be in their locker rooms. And we're seeing that happen this weekend. We're going to watch a male who is right now first in three different track events compete against girls and beat out the girls for the position of finals.
So tell us about A.B. Hernandez. So A.B. Hernandez, I actually brought up to Gavin Newsom. Let's start with this, actually. Let's play Cut 266. This is my conversation with Gavin Newsom. Play Cut 266.
So like you right now should come out and be like, you know what? The young man who's about to win the state championship in the long jump in female sports. Right. That's that, that shouldn't happen. You as the governor should step out and say no. No. And I appreciate. But like, would you do something like that? Would you say no men in female sports? Well, I think it's an issue of fairness. I completely agree with you on that. So,
So that's easy to call out, the unfairness of that. There's also a humility and a grace that these poor people are more likely to commit suicide, have anxiety and depression. And the way that people talk down to vulnerable communities is an issue that I have a hard time with as well. So both things I can hold in my hand. How can we address this issue with the kind of decency that I think is inherent in you, but not always expressed?
So A.B. Hernandez, the person in question, is in first place. That's a biological man in three different track and field events. And he's competing in the women's category in preliminaries. Tell us more. Yeah, so this Saturday at Yorba Linda High School, we have the CIF preliminaries. And he right now is in first for high jump, long jump, and triple jump. And so these girls are going to have to be competing against them. And let's be real, he's going to beat them. He has these
biological advantages. I've been able to talk to some of their girls and some of the families that are competing this weekend, and they know it's unfair. And the fact that they have to go into preliminaries and not just be ready to compete, not just make sure they got enough sleep, make sure they ate the right things, make sure they trained hard enough for the preliminaries, but they now have to focus on the fact that there's a boy competing against them, that no matter how hard they train, that he is going to outperform them because of these
And, you know, we've worked real hard in California to push back on this. We had actually two Save Girls sports bills this year. I testified in support of one of them. It was Assembly Bill 89 by Assemblywoman Kate Sanchez. And I was actually able to quote that clip of Governor Newsom saying it's deeply unfair that boys are in girls sports.
And guess what? He actually doesn't care about this issue because when that bill had a hearing, where was he? He was nowhere to be found. And when his office was asked for a comment on the Save Girls sports bills, he said his office doesn't make comments about current bills, which is a complete lie.
Yeah. And so, again, we can go through the list that your wonderful organization has composed. I don't know if I'm allowed to name these names off because they might be minors. So I'll instead just name the school, if that's OK. There's someone at Sonoma Academy who's a man who is on pace to win a cross country and track and field championship.
Half Moon Bay High School, volleyball. Waldorf High School, volleyball, basketball, and soccer. A.B. Hernandez, we talked about. Martin Luther King High School, cross country. The Buckley High School, cross country, soccer, track, and field. The Buckley High School, volleyball. Davis Senior High School, skiing and mountain biking. Davis Senior High School, track and field. Davis Senior High School, cross country. Now what I find really interesting about that list that you compiled as a side note
There are schools that have multiple trans athletes. What is the likelihood of that? So this is something that is not yet a majority. It happens a lot. What's the likelihood of it happening that half that list actually is from an overlapping of schools? This seems to be a social contagion. Absolutely.
Absolutely. It's extremely evident that teachers are pushing this agenda on students. We see the schools, some of the schools you listed, we're getting pictures sent nonstop of trans flags, pride flags, BLM flags hung up in these teachers' classrooms. And so it really goes to show as these grown adults are pushing this ideology, this trans ideology on students, they're going to start falling for it. And like you said, these are minors. These boys, whether or not we agree with what they're doing and we absolutely
absolutely do not agree with them being girls sports or pretending to be girls they are victims to this too and it's because of what these teachers are pushing yeah and so i want to dive a little bit deeper into this and so is it true that we actually have no idea how the magnitude of this i mean one thing the trump administration could do is they could demand information
that they could say, hey, not only are we prohibiting it, but we are requiring, since you receive federal money, to know if you have men and female sports. You guys had to somewhat informally, in a guerrilla tactic way, compile this list. Is that correct?
Yeah, absolutely. It would be great to have that force being put on California, being put on CIF, because right now there is no way to fully track those schools and athletes that you listed off. That's just what we've been able to pull together. But we know it's happening up and down our state and more than we can even imagine. So if we could get President Trump to come in and force California to start keeping track, that would be phenomenal. What what is the rank and file of parents in California? What are they saying about this?
Is word starting to really get out the fact that there is now dozens of these instances of men winning female championships? Word is definitely getting out. Parents are truly extremely upset in the state of California. We saw just two years ago a study come out showing that 68 percent of Californians do not agree with boys and girls sports. So this is a winning issue in California.
Yet our governor is doing nothing. Our Democrat legislators are constantly killing bills on this topic. And so the parents are ready for there to be a change. We saw when there was the Save Girls Sports bills hearings, 100 people showed up to urge a yes vote. We're getting people to show up this Saturday. Parents are showing up to school board meetings across the state of California and urging people to save girls sports.
So no matter what people like to think about California or say California is a lost cause, it's absolutely not. And the parents are fighting back. In closing here, what are the marching orders? And also, I do want to ask, does this also mean that the boys who are stealing these girls championships, do they get access to the girls locker room?
Yes, currently in the state of California, since 2013, boys have been allowed to access locker rooms and bathrooms, the girls' locker rooms and restrooms. And so it's been a big issue, and we need to put an end to that. And the way people can get involved and make a difference is CIF is acting like Californians don't want this change, that Californians don't want to stop boys being in girls' locker rooms and sports teams. So we need to make sure CIF knows Californians and Americans understand
are over with what California is doing. So at CaliforniaFamily.org, we just launched a petition urging CIF to save girls sports. So if people can sign up for that, we'll get that in the hands of CIF and to their president, John Becker, and make sure they know where we stand. Very good. And again, the Gavin Newsom cowardice is remarkable, not speaking out on this and saying what he said on the podcast. He is such a fraud through and through, if I may use that language.
If AB Hernandez is to win the state championship in track and field, I hope that there is nationwide disgust and disdain for this. They say, oh, you're picking on trans athletes. No, no, no. These trans athletes are picking on women. Get your words right. Thank you so much, Sophia. Talk to you soon. Thank you.
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So many jobs that will make millions of college graduates wondering, why did I go to college in the first place? It's interesting. When I go to these college campuses, sometimes I'll have some hecklers. At Long Beach, I had some hecklers. In San Francisco, whenever the topic of AI comes up, everyone gets really quiet. You can almost hear a pen drop or a pin drop. Even the protesters shut up when I start talking about AI because they know.
These kids know. They're using ChatGPT to write their essays. They're using Grok to answer questions. Nobody knows what the impact of AI will be, but it will be immense. It could be really good. It could be really bad. But they know it. These 19-year-olds on campus know that they are going to be disrupted. Despite all the ranting about trans stuff and open borders, when AI...
and that topic gets surfaced, they listen intently. We know that will replace a lot of jobs, but also could destroy a lot of expertise. What if nobody young knows how to write an essay anymore? That's the future that we are barreling towards. What if nobody knows how to do their own research? What if nobody knows how to think critically? What if nobody knows how to code? AI could basically destroy the expertise of a generation.
However, the jobs that are a little AI-proof for now until robotics do them, but honestly, robotics is still way far out from replacing these jobs. Human dexterity is going to be the hardest thing for AI to replace.
And being conservative is very AI-proof, amusingly, so we have job protection here on The Charlie Kirk Show. Just reading the news every day. I told this to a certain guy on CNBC. I said, you know that AI is going to take your job suit. Wonderful piece here from The Wall Street Journal. I had them printed out for us, but here's in The Wall Street Journal. High school juniors with $70,000 a year job offers.
Companies with shortages of skilled workers look to shop class to recruit future hires. Quote, like I'm an athlete getting all the attention from all these pro teams. This is not people with sociology degrees.
This is not people studying communications. This is not people studying North African lesbian poetry. No, it is high school juniors with $70,000 a year job offers in Philadelphia. Elijah Rios won't graduate high school until next year, but he already has a job offer, one that pays $68,000 a year. Rios, 17 years old, is a junior taking welding class at a Catholic high school. He
employers are dealing with a shortage of workers as baby boomers retire they've increasingly begun begun courting high school students like rehost by the way this is why we should not import cheap labor this is a perfect example if you import a bunch of cheap labor yes companies get labor for less but then rios would not be offered seventy thousand dollars a year it's a perfect example of you restrict the labor market and high schoolers benefit now mind you rios does not need to
Go to college. He doesn't need to get a four-year degree. There are 11 million job openings right now where you can work with your hands. It's the muscular type labor that pay more than a living wage. $68,000 a year. I know a lot of people that would want a job for $68,000 a year. At age 18, no college debt, no indoctrination, no lazy river, $70,000 a year.
Jenny Cantrell, 18, is working at Conestrano, a plumbing and HVAC mechanical contractor, hosted her in a summer camp in Massachusetts. She credits the camp for piquing her interest in plumbing and accepted Castorano's job offer without looking elsewhere. Quote, I already had that connection, she says. That's right. This is a long piece in the Wall Street Journal that details how now kids are getting high, high paying jobs in the trades.
If you can make $70,000 right out of high school right now, you most certainly should not go to college. And it's not just tuition, but it's your time as well. It's the compound interest of the extra earnings of those four years. But let me tell you the biggest problem. The biggest problem is not the kids. The biggest problem is not the trades. It's all of you listening right now that are parents that are afraid and ashamed of turning to your neighbors and saying that my kid is a welder. You as a suburban parent think that you are a failure if your kid does not go to University of Iowa.
You as a suburban parent think that your kid is a failure if it doesn't go to CU Boulder. That if you turn to your neighbors and turn to your relatives and you have Christmas and Thanksgiving and they say, oh, what is Elijah doing? Oh, Elijah's a welder. They'll scoff. They'll look as if you failed or you fell short. Parents, stop making decisions based on the social currency from snobbish elitist left-wing socialites that act as if you need to be a builder.
You need to make your decisions because you don't have the Stanford mom bumper sticker on your Lexus. Instead, you should say my kid has a $70,000 a year job with no debt, working with his hands, not indoctrinated, and he loves the country. Your kid is trans. I win.
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On the planet, it involves geopolitics, it involves issues of morality, and helping us to unpack that is John Yep, who runs Catholics for Catholics. He is live from Rome. John, great to see you. Thank you for taking the time. First, educate our audience on what is a conclave, who is voting, and what can we expect?
Great to finally be on the Charlie Kirk show. What a way to do it right here from Rome with an incredible view of St. Peter's Basilica behind me. You mentioned conclave Latin word for key. So what just happened about two hours ago, 136 men,
journeyed over to the Sistine Chapel designed by Michelangelo. They locked themselves in. All their electronics were taken from them. And what are they doing? They don't come out. Those cardinals don't come out until...
They, together with Barrett, choose the man that will lead two billion Catholics around the world. So that's what a conclave is. This is a tradition that goes back almost really to the foundation of the church 2,000 years ago, and it's a special moment for Christians and non-Christians alike around the world. And so they're going to meet. What exactly happens in these deliberations?
And what is the process? And this is very rare, right? I mean, this is only the third time in my lifetime that such a conclave is occurring.
It is rare. So what's happened? Obviously, we know that Pope Francis died the day after Easter, right after J.D. Vance and him had that special moment together. And then these past two weeks have been extremely, extremely important, Charlie, because, you know, even if you're not Catholic, you probably understand that we've had a pontificate under Pope Francis, which has genuinely created a lot of scandal for Christians across the world. You know, there's been a lot of just obfuscation on Catholic doctrine and biblical principles.
And it's been a time these past two weeks for the Catholic faithful to voice
their concerns, which they have in abundance to these men and let them know we want to return to orthodoxy. That's been so essential, right? So these cardinals have spent the last two weeks hearing and meeting on their own. This is actually the first time that they have been gathered together in roughly 10 years. So they themselves have also had time to get to know each other. But now it's up to them. Like I said, there's no electronics. They've cut themselves off from
from the outside world, and it's time to listen. You know, I will say, Charlie, if you're not Catholic, you're like, wait, great, so what is this? This is like John 21 being lived out right before your eyes. That moment when Christ told Peter, he told him two verbs. He told him, I want you to feed my sheep
Bosque from Greek, and I want you to shepherd, poimane, feed and shepherd the sheep. Christ needed Peter to do that. So what these men are going to be doing, they're going to be choosing that successor of Peter to continue to lead, to administer the Catholic flock around the world.
So let's talk about some of the concerns. Pope Francis was not necessarily well received by all Catholics. And I'm not speaking, I just know from Catholics I know, like Taylor Marshall or Jack Posobiec. Privately and publicly, Michael Knowles, they definitely would have some objections with some of his statements. What are you looking for in the next pope? What do you think could be improved upon? And who are the frontrunners?
Cardinal Mueller is the former head of the Doctrine of the Faith. He had a great statement. He said, look, people, this is not about conservatives or progressives. What we want is either an orthodox or we want a non-heterodox cardinal or a pope. In other words, we want someone that's faithful to traditions of what we believe for 2,000 years. You had Pope Francis who, you know, he danced with traditional things like the blessing of same-sex marriages on the geopolitical scale. He signed that horrendous deal with the – yes,
Communist Party, which really sold out the underground church over there and gave the power to the Chinese communists that ability to name bishops, something that's never been done, Charlie, in 2,000 years. So what are we looking for? We're looking for someone who's going to be what the popes are supposed to be. There's a Latin title for them, Pontifex Maximus.
That literally means greatest bridge builder. A bridge builder for what? Between God and Jesus Christ. The day we fail to mention that name over and over again is the day that we have failed as a Christian religion, okay? So that's what we're looking for in a pope and also just even on a geopolitical scale.
Charlie, you and I grew up in a time where we lived, got John Paul II, Ronald Reagan. Look what they were able to do to bring down the Iron Curtain, okay? Think big. Imagine if we had a pope who was extremely supportive and understood, yes, the biblical principles of a border, right? And what he could do to help President Trump and support him and
We're back in our country. That's just a small, right? So that's what Christians have gathered all around the world here. The streets are literally packed, Charlie, right down here, and praying that we get the man that is best to lead the church. So let me ask you this, which is that popes in the past have had serious involvement in geopolitical matters.
Pope John Paul II, famously the Polish pope, visited Poland in 1979 right after his election in 1978. That really sparked a national awakening. He spoke out crisply and repeatedly against Soviet communism. He was an anti-communist figure in a time where the world was in a time for choosing.
John Paul II framed what could be called Marxist materialism as very dehumanizing and became kind of a spiritual force against Soviet totalitarianism.
In today's time, we are seeing the excesses of modernity. What I, as a non-Catholic, would love to see is a pope who speaks out about the increase in secularization, the downfall of Western values, the need to be able to grow closer to the divine. I think we're in a similar but different time
of when we saw with John Paul II where the enemy was Soviet communism. We now have the rise of the Chinese Communist Party. We have the West deciding to basically commit slow-motion suicide. Talk about how popes can be even more than the head of a Catholic church, but also be a spiritual force for good internationally.
You know, when you look at a Pope and make the determination, how geopolitical should he be? Should he be involved in politics? It's almost the same question which you challenge your audience all the time, Charlie. If you are truly living out your faith, that faith has got to leave the
the church doors and will touch concrete realities of human existence, i.e. the political realm, right, to a degree. You know, and you've rightly called out some pastors, priests, or whatever that have remained on the sidelines in the name of neutrality. But that's ridiculous, you know, because you're neither hot nor cold, I'll spew you out of my mouth. So a person, a Christian,
sets out first and foremost with the desire to love the Lord and get souls to heaven. If he has that as his number one intention, he will have a geopolitical effect, right? Because it's going to overflow. That love to help people find the truth, the truth will set you free, will touch the realities of human existence. So this has to be done. I mean, we have a world that's on fire right now. And President Trump,
He needs all Christian leaders, but specifically the leadership of the Catholic Church, which has been such a central figure in the last...
Well, you know, 2000 years in civilization. We need that. That moral compass on the world stage the past 12 years. Hats off to President Trump for going here two weeks ago to be there for the funeral, to give that sign of respect for the office of the Pope. But it's time. You know, we need that moral compass and we need shepherds in this country, Catholic, especially Catholic. I'm speaking for myself.
We need Catholic priests and bishops who are going to be bold. It is not enough to be good because evil happens when good men do nothing. And thanks be to God, there were 58% of you Catholics across the country who partnered with Charlie Kirk and chased down Catholic ballots who did not sit back. And that is why we have a second chance in this country at saving it.
I love that. So hopefully we'll get a papal announcement soon. Explain the smoke. What happens when we get an announcement? Usually there's a lot of pomp and circumstance.
And for non-Catholics out there, can you explain all of the pageantry? A lot of evangelicals will look at the pageantry and they'll kind of cringe, I'll be honest. They'll say, come on, is this really what Jesus wanted? And I have a mixed opinion on it. I think that we should do great and grand things in the honor of our Lord. I think that we should take it from the Old Testament that building beautiful temples is important. Two minutes, John, touch on all of that, both the pageantry and the timeline.
First of all, if you have critiques, good for you. Speak it up. We need it. We need to be challenged in our faith to be able to talk it back. Pageantry, it's not in say evil, right? Even in the inauguration, you look at all the pageantry around that. That's what makes it special, the special moment. We as a human culture, we need to celebrate, right? So we will see some of that. The tradition of the white smoke that goes back to, you know,
almost to 1247 when they started sending smoke signals out, right? Because it was so important that these men not be unduly influenced by worldly powers, that they had to have a way to kind of send out a message outside that we have a pope. So when the white smoke comes up, which, you know, probably is going to be Friday or so, it should be a short conclave, we hope.
About 45 minutes later, the Pope will step out and he will give a blessing, urbi et orbi, Latin for to the city and to the world. It's a blessing for all of humanity to offer his benediction, right? So you'll see that in the next few days. It's a special moment if you can, you know, just to take it in and just realize the history of the place behind me. That is where St. Peter, the man that Jesus Christ called in the Sea of Galilee was called and he's buried there. And we're seeing the continuation of
of Peter's successors down to the present day. John, thank you for your time. We pray that you have a safe and successful trip to Rome. I don't know where you guys are all staying. I have to ask you because, I mean, George Farmer's going there. I think, you know, Jack Posobiec is there. Do you guys have some sort of like Airbnb arrangement? I can't imagine logistically how this works. Super quick, 20 seconds. Spend five years in Rome, Charlie. Here's the deal.
Everything is possible in Italy with la amicizia, with the friendship. So if you know people, the right person, it's like DC times 10. So we've got a good place right over here, great view behind us. And if you can make it to Rome, I highly encourage you to do so. Thanks, Charlie, for covering this important topic. I know so many people that are in Rome. I said, where are you guys all staying? It's like impossible. John, thank you so much.
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So yesterday we had a rock star event at San Francisco State University, as you all know. Afterwards, Riley Gaines went up to Seattle to speak at our Turning Point USA chapter at University of Washington. And Riley Gaines and her supporters and the supporters of Turning Point USA had feces thrown at them by Antifa supporters. Antifa is in full force in Seattle.
And literal human feces was thrown in protest of Turning Point USA at the University of Washington. Now, of course, that's disgusting, but I have to make this point. If one human being wearing a MAGA hat threw poop at a black woman, the entire country would shut down. It's all that we would talk about for a month. Every conservative would have to then mention it, comment about it, and disavow it.
Corporations would then be forced to donate money to black justice organizations. And then I would have to go on campus and talk about how, why a singular person wearing a MAGA hat through poop at a black woman. Now, will they be, will they have hate crime investigation against them? Of course not.
Approximately 150 people showed up to protest Gaines and Olivia Kroszleck speaking out against biological men competing in women's sports. Understand what they were protesting. Why is it that they were throwing feces at Riley Gaines? Because Riley Gaines does not want men in female sports. This is a Democrat militia is what this is. And we're just thankful that they weren't as violent as they usually are. Let's play some of the B-roll here. The protesters at the Riley Gaines event.
These are disordered, troubled people. This is pure insane asylum stuff. I don't say this lightly. The type of people that are in black block, by the way, they're getting heavier. You see that? Antifa used to be way skinnier. They got to go on Ozempic. Jeez, what is going on there? They got to get their steps in. Now, when I was fighting Antifa like six or seven years ago, they were far thinner. Someone's got to give them some sort of weight loss drug. They're Antifa, but they're not anti-fat.
They used to be really wiry, Antifa, like almost as skinny as a pencil. Let's show that again of Antifa. They're really putting on the pounds there. They went through a whole new recruitment spree the last couple of years. The old Antifa folks were like really fidgety like they were on meth. And now basically, I guess, yeah, woof. Are you sure she's not like a right guard for the Seahawks or something? That is a whole new aesthetic, right?
Not used to that. Usually it was like people tweaking on the side of the road that they say, here's some black box, put this on. Here's a piece of wood, go throw it at Riley Gaines. But understand this, the left, despite all of their nice sounding euphemisms, the left is a profoundly ugly movement. They are the party of sweet sounding euphemisms that cloak the ugly, the profane, and the vile. And interestingly, earlier in the day, a woman showed up to
our event and took a MAGA hat and decided to go wipe her tail with it. You can fill in the blanks. They have an obsession with feces in a very strange way. It's maybe because the feces are the closest thing to their worldview. They have similarity with it. They grow close to it because their worldview actually stinks. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.