THOUGHTCRIME Ep. 81 — Money For Moms? Dark Woke? AI Factories?
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Okay, everybody, happy Thought Crime Thursday. We are here with Blake, with Tyler, and is Jack in the community?

Yes, he is. The community. What community is that? This is the community of thought criminals. The Maryland man community. The community of thought criminals. Oh, everyone's a community now. You get a community and you get a community. That sounds like a League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. So we now know the community of thought criminals. Yes. It's great. We see this with intelligence community. I think they were one of the first. We need to get deeper into that. The oil and gas community.

The criminal community. Everything's a community now. What is our first topic? Our first topic is baby bonuses, Charlie. So this came up earlier this week.

It's sort of just reporting on different rumors and ideas under consideration in the White House. But basically, the White House is considering how do we encourage people to have children? How do we raise America's average number of kids per family? And one of the ideas that was thrown out was to have a $5,000 baby bonus for every American mother after she gives birth. They asked Trump about it on Tuesday, and he responded, sounds like a good idea to me.

But is it a good idea, Charlie? I don't know. Jack, what do you think? So, yeah, this is one of those things where, you know, it's been tried in Poland. It's been tried in Hungary. I want to say other parts of Asia may have tried this. And it's really seen limited success. There's still been issues with the birth rates in many of these countries. And also, you know, I'm just going to say it. America has more of an issue with

with, you know, sort of the baby mama syndrome than some of these other, you know, Eastern European countries do. And I worry that if you don't put the right kind of conditions on something like this, then you just kind of create that situation all over again.

Yeah. So I think Hungary has actually stabilized the decline, if I'm not mistaken. It's gone up. So I'm looking at the numbers right in front of me right now. They spend, I think, 7% of GDP on pro-family policy. I mean, it's an extraordinary investment. They measure it. They have a whole bureau of it in Hungary. It is a robust model.

Marshall Plan.

Now, what I would like to flag, though, is... So I'm looking at... I just sent you guys a chart. So we've got... I just plugged in Hungary fertility rate. Fertility rate is average number of births per woman. And it auto-generated with the magic of AI. It gave us a chart for Hungary. It gave us one for Poland. And it gave us one for Czechia, the Czech Republic. And it's worth looking at this where Hungary...

actually so they bottomed out in 2010 at about 1.23 that's very low and they've raised it they got it up to about 1.61 right when COVID hit and it dropped off to 1.52 in 2020 there's some fluctuations it's a slight increase it has gone up but it's worth

flagging. But they stopped the decrease. Yeah, but it's worth flagging. They're consistently, over the past decade, they're consistently behind Czechia. And that's an interesting comparison because the Czechs are one of the least religious countries in the world by survey. They are basically at rock bottom in religious observance. Do they have Muslims? No.

They have Vietnamese, a few of them. Really? Yeah, it's an old communist Cold War thing. They brought in North Vietnamese through an exchange program. So you find these Vietnamese markets in the Czech Republic. But so they just they have consistently been a bit ahead and they follow a very similar pattern, which is worth flagging that they bottom out around the same point. They similarly have a bit of a rise in the 2010s and then they similarly fall right after COVID hits. So.

Hungary did reverse their decline, but it's also worth saying, did they reverse the decline because of their policies or is there a wider social thing going on? Because they border, I'm not sure if they border them, but they're very close to the Czechs and like culturally, historically, they have a lot of similar inputs going into that. And they're following a pretty similar pattern. And I think with the 5,000 baby bonus, you kind of run into what I think is the reality, which is you can do things to encourage bigger families, right?

But the stuff that you can do that would actually work is it's like not within the Overton window of what a democracy could do. Like if you gave women a million dollars per birth, like you just had a nationwide Elon Musk policy, it'd probably work. But we couldn't do that. Hungary has new things they've done, too. You know, they have no income tax at all for any woman that has babies. Like if you have more than three kids, I think you pay no tax for the rest of your life. You should do that. Yeah.

We should, we, we should do that. We just have to cut spending. Well, okay. But like, I, I, I, I, I'm just saying, you know, you're, you're going to get different. You're going to get different outcomes than hungry. Well, well, yeah, you're gonna get different outcomes, but here, here's what I think. I think we should do things that are pro. Uh, I, I, we had talked about this before. I think maybe on here it was talking about, uh, uh, uh, getting rid of taxes on costs for moms.

So diapers, things like that. I think that's been proposed. I'm not mistaken. But that type of work too is like, I mean, there's things that you can do in addition to a bonus, the baby bonus, just like straight cash. Because I think the straight cash, I don't know if there's anyone that's done extensive research on that, but the straight cash does seem like it's a really bad idea. Yeah. Well, and it's kind of the line is $5,000. Like you think, who is the person you're envisioning who is tipped from having a

into having an additional kid by a one-time bonus of $5,000. And to be blunt, it's probably not the sort of kids that we need to have more of because what's really hollowing out in the U.S. and what's really driving the birth rate down is people who are in what you might say like the responsible middle class are the ones who feel the most constricted about having kids. People on the lowest end somewhat impulsively have kids.

and they don't work terribly hard at raising them. And people who are very, very high income, making multiple millions of dollars a year, can effectively afford to have as many kids as they want, and they actually do have more kids as a result. But I think the absolute rock bottom of fertility, the people who have the lowest number of kids, are people who are maybe...

the 75th, 80th, 85th percentile in income where they're the ones who care a lot about having kids responsibly. Okay, don't marry, don't have kids till you get married and make sure you can give each of them the lifestyle that you think a kid should have and you can give them the proper amount of resources. Those are the ones who are at absolute rock bottom. Those are the ones who you would want presumably to raise the most to because those are the kids who kind of

Make your country able to succeed. It is a problem in America if the upper middle class specifically cannot reproduce itself.

If it's going extinct, you are burning up the human capital of your country when people who make the best parents probably are not having kids anymore. I mean, I do. I do respect, first of all, President Trump embracing this because we should want another baby boom. And I want to just read off some things, though, to defend Hungary, though. Abortions went down 41 percent. That's their pro family policy. Forty one percent. That's a marriage rates nearly doubled since 2010.

The fertility rate was at its lowest at 1.23. You're right. Then it's about 1.5, but it's still below replacement level. So we'll see if it can climb up there. Overall, I think something should be tried because we are seeing a massive population collapse, a fertility crisis in the West.

Does anyone else have any other ideas? I mean, one thing that's interesting, a country that's not a democracy that is trying to do this. China, actually. So China's famous for the one child policy. The one child policy is dead. They has been for a while. So for a long time, the assumption of Chinese authorities was, OK, we had this one child policy because we were overpopulated. You had to get the birth rate down. They believed that.

And so they thought, oh, as soon as we get rid of this, it'll just come back is what they thought. And what made them freak out is they started dialing back the one child policy and there was no rise. There was no actual increase in childbirths. Instead, they looked over and they were following the same path as South Korea, where South Korea is at 0.7. You're talking Koreans ceasing to exist as an ethnic group in 100 years at that sort of birth rate.

And so China is also introducing a lot of stuff to encourage this and they're not a democracy so they can be more aggressive. And you see things like you just have the government come out and really aggressively, like with just outright propaganda, say like we're going to promote this marriage and childbirth culture. And they're also targeting things. One thing we've noticed in the West is people aren't pairing off as easily. People aren't going out. They're not meeting people as much. So China does things like they say,

kids are staying inside and they're playing too many video games. Okay, we're going to make it so kids can only play video games for three designated hours of the week. Like one hour. Yeah, I don't know how strictly it's enforced, but in 2021, they had a law where if you're under 18, I think basically you could do it. I'm not sure the exact time, but it was one hour on Friday night, one hour on Saturday, one hour on Sunday night. And that's when you're allowed to play online video games in China if you're not an adult.

They had a huge like video game addiction problem in China too. This was something where like they even had like rehab centers where families could send their kids because they were too addicted to online games. And I don't mean like

You're playing on your phone a little bit. Kids would die in South Korea. There were kids that would literally die from malnourishment. It's a huge thing in Asia. It's really interesting. I looked this up. What do you guys think the birth rate, the fertility rate for white women in America is? The nationwide one is like 1.6, I think. So I'd say probably 1.4.

Yeah, it's 1.51, which amazingly is not that far off from Hungary with all of these policies. Yeah. It's actually kind of miraculous. You look at this. Now, Hispanic women by far have the highest fertility rate, then black women, then white women. It's Hispanic, like two and a half. Yeah. So the way that they count, this is a separate index, but Hispanic women is 64.4 per 1000. I don't really know how they tabulate, but it.

Essentially, that's like the crude birth. Yeah. So the the most fertile is Hispanic women. No surprise there. Then black women and then white women are basically tied. And then by far the least and you had to explain this one, but that goes back is Asians. Asians by far have like the least demonic. Well, Asians are in the US. They're higher income. They're more urbanized. I mean, they're tracking what is happening in Asian countries as well.

But I remember that, though, like in elementary school, I always remember all my Asian friends were like only children. Maybe they had a brother or sister almost always. It's got to be a cultural thing. I mean, I will say, though, just anecdotally, though, I will say that the most I think that having more kids is coming back in style with the more Christian you are.

At least anecdotally, would you agree, Jack, that there is a three-plus push? And maybe, again, full disclosure, I very well might just be around wealthy people that can afford having three, four, five kids. But unfortunately, having children has become a luxury item. Let me say it this way. Having more than two kids is a luxury item in America. It is expensive. It's, like, objectively expensive. And it takes a lot of time. And so...

But Jack, I am seeing a resurgence where I think that the baby boomers, I'm a child of baby boomers. It was like, I'll have one of each.

Where now it's like, no, I might have two, three, four, or even five. Go ahead. One of the, you know, I guess thought crimes on this could also be that the math for both parents working actually drops off as you increase children, right? So having one kid in daycare, okay, not super expensive. Now all of a sudden you've got two kids in daycare. Now it is getting really expensive. Right.

three kids, four kids. Now, wait a minute. You have all these kids in daycare. Suddenly you're spending more on daycare than that second, you know, job, that second income for a dual income household actually brings in. So suddenly you're saying, wait, wait a second. Is this sort of like a dual income trap? Because we both want to go out of the house and work, but we're actually not making enough money to have this many kids.

So why would we be able to do that if we want to have more kids? You know what I'm saying? So it actually prevents you from having more kids because of the exorbitant cost of daycare. And so that's why J.D. Vance talked about this at great length during the campaign, as we all know, that that's why to him,

Making it so that you could live as a family on a single income would actually help better for family formation because then you've got one parent that can stay home with multiple children. You don't have to put your kids into daycare because it isn't a situation where both parents are forced to work. So for the last 2000 years, there was an assumption that having children was something that everyone wanted.

There was an assumption that when in reality it's not true. It's that sex is what everyone would want, that children are actually a value.

You would think that the birth rate would have skyrocketed after COVID. Everyone's sitting at home. The birth rate went down after COVID, amazingly. Having children is a value. If you do not have a worldview... We had a COVID baby. Well, you had one? We did, too. That's awesome. We did have a COVID baby, yep. If you do not have a worldview that prioritizes having children, your society will not have children. Well, I think the biggest thing that would have driven it down during COVID is...

Most people have their children probably relatively early in their relationships. They marry, they have their kids, and then 30 years after that, they raise those kids and grow old. And what COVID really did is it exacerbated, I think, the biggest driver of this, which is people are not getting married. People are not meeting each other. People are not

pairing off as no no no hear me out though i'm saying though that we did not have a new york city blackout effect so there's almost a one-to-one for example when new york city would have a blackout nine months later there would be a slight increase in the fertility rate right that went during a blizzard in chicago nine months later you would have a slight increase in the fertility rate people were locked down amongst one another for about 60 to 90 days minimum and we saw a

no increase. Wait, wait, is this why Charlie likes cold showers so much? Charlie, is this why you like cold showers so much? Is there like a connection here? I think there's actually an explanation for that though, Charlie. Remember when we went through on here and we showed how people meet each other and because the online dating, there was nowhere for anyone to go. Like, so it used to be, you know, you would meet people on other things like that. So now, unfortunately,

a single parenthood is so high, you know, fertility rates are probably are not accompanied by marriage as much today. You probably didn't have as much of it. Like if, if COVID would have happened in the fifties, you probably would have seen a huge spike without a doubt. I just, now it's like people were basically trapped alone because they don't meet and they don't have meaningful relationships anyways. And then plus,

the entire lobby that prevents pregnancy to begin with. So will the baby boom work?

You know, you know, what's, you know, what's interesting about this? I always talk about it is, do you guys remember the movie? It's a wonderful life, like the Christmas movie, you know, that one. And they go into like, he, you know, I'm not, I'm not going to read that. I get the whole thing, but it's like, they go into the nightmare version of the world. If George Bailey had never lived and he goes into to, you want to say, I want to see my wife. I want to see Mary. And he's, you know, it's being walked through and it's sort of a Dickensian kind of take on things.

and and they said oh you don't want to see your wife george you don't want to see what happened to mary and he and he goes what happened i need to see it i need to see it and he goes all right fine i'll show you but it's really bad and he goes george she's a spinster she never married she never had children she's closing up the local library and she's like in her 30s and so there's something that's changed in american culture where that was considered nightmarish and like

incredibly backwards in the 1940s

you know, during World War II, essentially. And the word spinster, the idea of social shame around this was seen as a really, really bad outcome. Whereas these days they say, oh, you know, go and get your master's in library affairs, go get your MLA or whatever. And that's considered this great good. And then they tell you to not even have kids. You put off family formation until your 30s, late 30s, et cetera. And suddenly we wonder why there's low fertility rates.

What policies would potentially work? Again, I'm interested in some. I think that if we can. OK, let's just say if we can radically cut spending. Right. Then I would be open to the idea to say no income tax if you are married. Now, understand Hungary also says you must remain married.

Not just have kids. It is you stay in the marriage. This is not just like baby mama stuff. After your third year of marriage, you get it. Who we would want to have kids? A pretty...

Imagine if you just radically increased the money, but it had to come with a low time preference for it. We will give you $100,000 for a kid, $150,000, but it will only be five years from now, and you still have to be married. You have to be married to the person when the child is born and married to the same person continuously. You can't get married. Or how about 10 years? 10 years is like a pension. No, a pension. A marriage pension. You get it when you retire. Something like that. There's so...

Yeah, like you want to actually emphasize giving it to low time preference people, people who will make good long term decisions. Because what we've seen is a lot of people have decided that the good long term decision is not having kids. But ultimately, anything that's reducing it to purely an economic thing, I think, is missing what drives this. A lot of this is just a cultural value issue.

Man, I'm thinking about just the number of people I know. That's what I'm trying to say with the movies. Yeah, like the number of people I know who only have one kid or two kids basically just because the mom doesn't like having kids as much. They're like, they didn't like being pregnant. They don't want to be pregnant again. One or two is enough.

And it was that gradual, I think it's a gradual transition. I know like among Mormons, you'll hear a lot where it's okay. My grandparents had eight or nine kids a piece. My parents had four to six kids a piece. And now, you know, good Mormons are having two to three kids a piece. And maybe, you know, the next generation will be having zero to 1.8 kids a piece.

And it's that big. It's sort of the breakdown of what your normal environment is. If everyone around you is normally having six kids, the normal thing to do is to have six kids. And you see that gradual slide away. So you'd almost have to say like in China where I mentioned where they're doing these things. A lot of what China does is just propaganda. It's the government coming out and saying the person who has six kids is better than you. The person who has the most kids is a better citizen than you are.

And if we're just wildly throwing around ideas that will never happen because we're not allowed to have cool ideas here, you'd almost say like, what if you could only vote? If you were like, if you are a married couple with a kid, you can vote and also vote your kids vote, but actually you can't vote. Oh, you get an extra vote. You get an extra vote. You get an extra vote. If you're not married, you can't, you can't vote. Sorry. You're not a full citizen. That would be an idea. I love the extra vote. It's sort of like, you know, in, uh,

That old Heinlein novel, Starship, the actual book Starship Troopers. Service means citizenship. I'd love to see a map. And service or citizenship requires service, whatever the slogan was. It gets to be like,

Yes, citizenship. Citizenship requires sex having. Citizenship requires service, yeah. And no, we know that married couples always tend to vote more conservative. And certainly when people get older, as they have kids, they do tend to be more conservative. So generally as a movement, that is something that we should be pushing and also something that we should be pushing in terms of the country. We don't want to be a country where we're forced to –

hollow out our population replacement by replacing them with more immigrants, which is what we've been doing since the 1970s, essentially, and saying, oh, well, who's going to do these jobs? Let's open the floodgates. That's created all these other problems, but my GDP go up, my shareholder value go up, and people are all upset about it. This is also because, by the way, we now have a much lower trust society. So

Those social shaming campaigns don't necessarily work as well because we don't have a society that generally trusts the government and the institutions. This is something that people attack us for all the time. They say we are the cause of it. But no, we're not the – like those of us on this program. We're not the cause of that. Society is the cause of that. That's why people don't trust anything. That's why they don't trust institutions anymore. And when you do have that more of a low-trust society, then guess what?

You're going to have less kids. Although, if I remember correctly, there is, and Blake, you probably know better than me, isn't there a correlation between birth rates going up and like warfare? Probably historically. I'm not sure about more recently. Like, yeah, like that's an argument. It's definitely an argument for why, for example, Israel has a notably high fertility rate.

I think they're still above three. And some of that is they have ultra-Orthodox, but it's not just that. Secular Jews have a high birth rate. So let me ask you guys a question. In the families where, let's just say, there's not as many kids, do you think the father wants more kids and the mom doesn't? Do you think, in my experience, the dad or the father kind of does want more kids, but obviously respects that it's both decisions? The point being is, is motherhood a virtue that women care about anymore?

I can't say I don't. I definitely I've definitely seen the example of dad wants more and mom puts brakes on it. I think that I know more men than women. I think that's a majority of the case. And again, it's obviously both their decision. I'm not even criticizing it, but I hear from women on campus. That's a better way. Let me let me address it that way. Women on campus think that motherhood is a great burden.

They think that if I have to go through it to get like my genes fine, like continuing, but like it's really awful and it's really terrible. Whereas the prior generation looked at it as something, not just something that they really should do to continue the species, but they get to do. And there's a lot of reasons for that. Yeah.

And I don't know. I just think that women right now think very negatively about pregnancy and they think very negatively about motherhood. Well, based off the outcomes that we've seen with the recent elections and the polling that's happening, that has to go hand in hand. We look at why middle class college educated women have shifted so far left that and we know what their viewpoints are on family. We know what their viewpoints are on on marriage.

you know, feminism. We know what their, their viewpoints are on sexuality. We know what their viewpoints are on conservative ideals on religion and

they have to go hand in hand. And so I think that's what's becoming more transparent in politics today is now that we're seeing very clearly, it's like, well, you know, if things are going wrong in America, you know, it's probably that one outlier category. And the one outlier category that exists on every poll today is that it's white college educated women are the ones that are so far distant from every single other category. Even like black,

black females are closer to white men on ideology than white women are to white men on ideology. That's crazy. And that, that alone is the thing that we probably don't talk about enough in like, in like reviewing the election and everything else that has a cultural effect. That's so bad for, I think white relationships. And when you talk about Caucasian relationships, the United States, um,

That's the fracturing of society. And it would be no different than in a majority black society

uh, community in, in Africa, having such separation between female and male males on something. But we're talking about a complete ideological split between males and females happening in America right now that are white. And so you cannot expect, I completely agree with you. I think it's men probably are not probably are for sure. The, the, the likely side that wants to have more kids than women because of the direction they're going.

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Do white woke. Oh, dark woke. Dark woke. Okay. Yeah. White woke. Yeah. Dark woke. So dark woke is the new neologism. We discussed this on the show today. So it's basically they're like, these aren't your old Democrats. These new Democrats are edgy and provocative and they say not nice things. They are dark woke.

Yeah, this is their new wrinkle. Yes. Let's play the tape here. This is a new montage of Democrats embracing dark woke. Play cut 289. This is what kicking out of fascism looks like. I think I can kick most of the... I do think that. Somebody slap me and wake me up because I'm ready to get on with it. Total bull... Absolute bull...

Once you get successful, don't be a greedy. You could speak directly to Elon Musk. What would you say? I guess dark woke is just that Democrats swear all the time. I said swear words before. I guess they're just cursing. Yeah, they're literally just cursing. That's that's all it is. OK, so we'll read from The New York Times articles. The New York Times article. This came out on earlier this week. And so this is one of the takes from Bavik Lathia, a communications consultant with the Wisconsin Democrat Party.

Republicans have essentially put Democrats in a respectability prison. There is an extreme imbalance in strategy that allows Republicans to say stuff that really grabs voters' attentions. While we're stuck saying boring pablum, I see this as a strategic shift within Democratic messaging. I'm a big fan of dark woke.

And so is this like a playoff of Dark Brandon or something? Or like Dark Maga? So Dark Brandon came out of Dark Maga. Please keep doing this. I read it was a Dark Brandon. Dark Brandon came after Dark Maga, though. So I think what they're trying to, and I said this on the show, they think that if they act kind of more like Trumpy, they're going to be okay. But the laws of Trump do not apply to other people. Yeah. And I'm not even sure if the particular weird dark stuff has ever worked. Weird around in 2022, there was Dark Maga stuff, and it didn't.

end as strongly as we kind of thought it would. No, not at all. Charlie, we're seeing this online. So our team is actually seeing where the left is pushing Bernie Sanders and AOC as populists. I've been predicting this the whole time. So we're seeing this in multiple places. Yesterday, actually, one of our staffers got in a debate with somebody about whether or not, I can't remember where it was, but somebody posted like, this is our brand of populism.

So I'll just admit, I just feel like this is one of those things where...

Do you ever feel now that you're over 30 that you realize there's no new news stories? Yeah, it's just kind of all repurposed. So they're like, wow, the Democrats. Now this new generation of Democrats, they're not afraid to be nasty. Okay, in 2017, there was this whole pattern where they would go and find Trump admin officials in restaurants and scream at them until they had to leave. Remember Sarah Huckabee Sanders at the chicken restaurant? Yeah, it happened to her. It happened to a few others. I think Ted Cruz got chased out of a restaurant. I remember...

Was one of them a regular? I remember I got chased out with you. In Pennsylvania last year. Well, I was before. I would chase Tyler. That was before everyone. Tyler and I got chased out of a breakfast restaurant in Philadelphia with Candace Owens by Antifa at 7 a.m. By the way, that's a- What breakfast restaurant? You know what? I need to think. It was really good, by the way. It wasn't a good- Yeah, we had to leave our breakfast in the middle of it. I know. This is incredible. Tyler had waffles or something. Yeah.

I always eat a waffle at some point in my life. Admittedly, it's never happened to me. I sometimes would visualize this. Like when I was with Tucker, I was like, okay, what if I'm with Tucker and this happens? The story was really funny. And I would just refuse to leave. I would be like, I'm not. No, we did at first. It became this whole thing. Well, the funny part about this was this was like,

You know, Candace had just barely become like kind of had some notoriety post the Kanye stuff. So like nobody, it wasn't like she was like a known household name at that point. But what had happened was the place that we had picked just happened. It's Philadelphia, right? It was at the end of their anti-police protest. It was. Yeah. They were just happy to rally Antifa like right outside our window. And they were ending an all night. They turned around and we're just like there. They're like, wait, that's.

I think that's Charlie. You can see them like looking it up on their phones. Like that's good. It says they couldn't believe like they're like luck that we happen to be eating breakfast right where they are.

We got so much. It was Green Eggs Cafe. Green Eggs Cafe. That's right. And by the way, I'm going back to Philadelphia. I think later this week I have to stop by there. I might go back. That was a really good place. Green Eggs Cafe on Locust. I think that a couple of them. Those poor people were like, they were so nice. Is it Locust Street or Dick's? They have a couple. No, it's definitely one on Locust Street. It was right near Drake. Were you in Center City? It was right near the university. It was right near the university, which would be.

I think it was. Regardless. Which university? Temple? Yeah, I think so. Yeah, this is the one. Green Eggs Cafe. It was Green Eggs Cafe, and it was delicious. I got to tell you. Tyler, I think this is what you ordered.

This is literally what you ordered. This is like this like velvet pancake calorie. I don't eat that now. That looks disgusting. No, Tyler ordered this. It doesn't look like red velvet. It looks like a chunk of flesh. He ordered like a cake. That looks like it was just cut out of a dead cow. What in the world? Yeah, this is it. I'm looking right at it on the map. It was right downtown there.

That's so funny. And remember all the police officers were all black and all of the Antifa people were white and they were like, like, like spitting and like, it was getting up in your face. All the black police officers were like, like they got involved and were like, like body slamming. And they're like piping them down. Everything is so funny. Yeah. Philly cops don't mess around. Oh yeah. That was great. So for, for dark woke, what can we expect?

Oh, we could imagine. We could imagine things that have never happened before among Democrats. They might target random people who aren't famous and just make giant villains of them on the Internet and like try to blow up their lives. They could get people fired from their jobs because of like things that they just said a decade ago.

There's like so many unprecedented things that dark woke could do. They could they could lock people up and deny them due process and deny them a hearing and file all sorts of extraneous charges on them for years until the Supreme Court finally steps in and shuts it down. I mean, gosh, could you imagine?

Imagine if the Democrats started doing that. They could kick you out of the military for not taking an experimental vaccine. They could kick you out of polite society. They could restrict your travel rights if you attended a protest and were there peacefully on January 6, 2021. Could you imagine?

Could you imagine if they were censoring your free speech rights? Could you imagine if they were kicking you, you know, taking your children away from you because you didn't want them to be transgenderized and they would put them into other states with your ex spouse and then allow them to be transgenderized? Could you imagine if the Democrats did such things?

I think this is a I will say that I don't I don't I don't want to keep saying I don't want to keep on giving Democrats advice. Just do this. I'm not going to tell you what to do. Next segment. All righty. OK, well, now I make make Jasmine Crockett. I literally do that. Show me where to donate. I will raise you money. Jasmine Crockett. We have a donor event next weekend. I will raise you 10 million dollars. The Jasmine Crockett for presidency super PAC. I will chair it.

free of charge. Don't, don't, don't make Jasmine Crockett the face of it. Please. No, do the opposite. Okay. I will not tell you my actual advice next. Okay. So now, now we're going into the Oakland thing already. I need to get the number on that video, but we were, we discussed this. So this was, this happened in the Bay area and we had a very strong reaction on Twitter about it. It's a clip just to set up what people are going to see or hear.

It's a guy who apparently fell onto the tracks in Oakland and no one like helps him out. We gotta also talk about the Florida State shooter. With the Starbucks. Oh, we have both? Okay, we'll get to both of those. Let's do the Oakland one first. We'll get to that. Let's first do number 300. Play that, please. Get out! Get out! Get out! Get out! So did he die? No, he got him out. He finally crawled himself out. The train stopped.

miraculously but this is a bad trend it's a homeless homeless white guy now I think you even see him he kind of gets out there yeah he's finally gets out and he's like why'd you guys help me well so I think you can clearly tell looking at him is he's clearly not well at all

No, he's a drug addict. Yeah, like he's clearly high as a kite. So what I would say is kind of my take is trying to help him would be a heroic thing, but I sort of...

can't blame people for not immediately taking action. At that moment where he's floundering, I don't know if I agree. You could stick out one hand. It's so easy to get pulled in, though. That guy's pretty big. I'm 200 pounds. I disagree, though. I think one hand... If he's trying to pull you in... You know how they train with lifeguards, for example, with drowning victims? You have to hit them. You do not go try to save someone

If you are not ironclad certain, you will not drown yourself. Like, if you have a flotation device that you can be tethered to, if you can have, like... Or, like, it's good to throw something, but, like, you generally... They say you do not jump in after a drowning victim. Okay, how about this? Because then you will just drown. Do you film this?

Yeah, that's probably bad. The universal practice of just pulling out. I don't think we know enough in the video to say whether or not what we would have done. I think the gut reaction of filming it is morbid. I think the video, if I'm not mistaken, maybe I'm wrong. I haven't watched it since we dropped in the chat.

I think that people are kind of like jeering him a little bit, aren't they? Are they like, like jeering at him a little bit? I wouldn't say, I think people are like shouting. I highly doubt anyone's. I don't think anybody was like, Oh my gosh, no, you can do it. Like, that's the other thing too, is like, you could be running up to him and be like,

Yo, I can't grab you, but come on, just put your leg up. Giving him instructions. Nobody was even trying to help the guy. They were kind of mocking him a little bit with the video. It is a bad trend we are seeing where people are just filming bad stuff that's happening. By the way, did we ever find out the person who at Florida State University was the person with the Starbucks?

with that girl that got shot. I don't think we do. We have that by the way now too. How did that not become a multiple day national news story? It's only B-roll. Let's play 314. The memory holding of this is like really creepy and bizarre. So here's what's happening. On podcasts, there's a person sipping a Starbucks, filming while one of her classmates is shot on the ground dying. And she's filming it with Starbucks in hand, sipping it, literally just took a drink of Starbucks,

And more shots are going off in the background. What's so bizarre about this to me is I feel like I would be running for my life in the shooting. This whole thing, this is one of the weirdest. I thought it was AI. I thought this was fake. Yeah, I remember you said that. You're like, this is not real. No one knows who this person is. This is a very disturbing trend. And in both these cases, thankfully they lived. There's going to be somebody that dies and someone just films it the entire time. They just film it. That's right.

that well I actually follow a whole Reddit about this you follow this weird dark stuff it's not dying elevators yeah a little bit it really does Tyler is constantly like I know every time I get an elevator now I'm like oh Tyler thinks I'm gonna die or something you I I'm telling you elevators you could die you could die this isn't it's just not good yeah and you have to know the ways me the other day when I tried to call you this is why

It is interesting that we don't seem to know who it came from, because presumably, like most of these videos, these are only available because someone uploaded it. It's from their own phone. It's very brief. It's very brief.

So you almost wonder, like, did someone act like, you know, on Facebook, you can just go live. It's you almost wonder what did someone accidentally tap the go live button and then unlive themselves. And now it's become this huge thing. So that's why we were discussing it. Like, how should we blow it up more? And I was saying, I'm always very wary of taking any four second clip and exploding it because the truth is, is you don't know what's going on before that video or after that video.

But it is very odd. I'd say the biggest, easiest takeaway is the automatic impulse of anything is happening. I'm going to pull out my phone and record it. And it gets two different angles. Not helping someone when you should help them, but also recording when you really should be exercising basic self-preservation. Because you get people who...

obviously are putting themselves in danger or actively inhibiting, you know, an evacuation or something that needs to be done because they're just recording it with their phone. It's a, it's a very jarring modern reality. Well, this is why I was saying I read it. I follow this one thing called why were they filming? And it's all a bunch of like, why is this person have their phone out and filming what's going on? And they catch crazy stuff that happens on there. Um,

There is, I think an entire, like, I think these people, it's like a almost video game ask where they don't have any fear for their life. They don't have any fear for, you know, maybe they feel so valueless that,

that their only value is what they capture on their phone, like the same way that what they ingest on their phone? I'm looking, the number one. I think that, I was just gonna say, no, I would disagree with that in a sense that I don't think it's that it's internalized. I don't think they're internalizing anything. I think that because of the, it's the algorithm, right? The algorithm rewards you

and dopamine rewards whatever goes viral whatever's the hottest thing whatever's the next content so because all of us have social media i'm sure we're all victims of it here or guilty of it here uh even blake is a tiktok star and um you know we all you know we all think like okay hey this is going to be great content this is going to be great content so we've actually uh we've actually sort of

detached ourselves from reality in the sense that we don't experience reality anymore. We're constantly thinking and everyone is doing it now. We're constantly thinking, oh, how is this going to look on the gram? How is this going to look on Twitter? How is this going to look on, you know, whatever your social media choices? And so rather than

rather than directly interface with that, we always take that extra step back to think, how will others look at this if we then go and film it? So I think we've rewired all of people's brains. This is why I talk about the generations that grew up with technology are just fundamentally different. - Yeah, just the blurring of the lines between the two, right? - Yeah. - It's just remarkable, truly.

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Okay, we got one last time for one last topic. Alrighty, so this is the... It's a factory that they just built in China. And what's special about this factory... Let me see if I can get it here. Is it apparently can be run entirely without any humans whatsoever.

And it can build one smartphone every second. What's the number on that one, guys? I'm trying to find it on this chart. That's crazy. A second? It is. Let's do... Okay, it's 306. It's just B-roll. But this is a factory that exists. It can do one phone a second. So that's about 86,000... I think it's 86,400 phones a day. It operates in darkness because it doesn't need any humans at it. So they don't need light. And...

It pumps out a phone every second, and the Chinese company that designed it has some creepy, ominous, dystopian video future, and it would all be in Chinese. So how many seconds are there in a day? 68,000 seconds? 86,400. 86,000 seconds? Yep. Okay. So how many phones does Apple currently produce a day? They probably have to produce way more than that a day, right? Let me think. Let's search annual iPhone sales. They sell...

Units sold. They sell 232 million phones in 23. How many? 232 million. I'm sorry, 232 million. Yes, worldwide. Okay, so wait, hold on. That means that they have to produce a lot more than one a second. They have to produce like 1,000 a second. Yeah, so 86, one a second for a whole year would be about 30 million. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, of course. You have to scale it out. So they have to...

But is this for Apple or is this for some other company? I believe it's just a different Chinese company. China has some very strong smartphone makers. Oh, that's not my question. So, Jack, in China, what phone does Lao Bai Jing, the people of China, use? What hardware do they use? Probably either Xiaomi or Huawei. So they don't use Apple. Huawei is obviously the biggest. They don't use Apple. I mean, in addition to Apple. Are Apple devices used by mainland Chinese?

Yeah, they are, but they're typically considered like luxury items. They're usually bought abroad as opposed to bought domestically. Okay. So I just dropped in the chat. It's 500,000 a day iPhone at the Foxconn factory in China. 500,000 a day. And then it's 350,000 employees.

It's crazy. To make $500,000 a day. And this is no employee, right? Yeah, this was a Xiaomi factory. Do you think this is all hype or do you think this is real? I think it's real. So this is kind of why we wanted to discuss it. Because everyone tells me it's hype, blah, blah, blah. It's definitely cope. So the thing is, you often get the take that China succeeds in manufacturing because it's slave labor you'll come in here. It's sweatshop labor. They just beat us on cost.

That is not accurate anymore. And it's actually become less accurate super quickly. Like the difference between the China of 2028, you know, 17 years ago when they host the Olympics, 2008, 2008 Beijing Olympics to today, massive gap in what China is like, or even just five years ago, five years ago, China exported almost no cars. Now they're the largest car exporter in the world. And it's because they dominate in electric cars specifically.

China also is the, they install in a given year, they install about half of all robots that are used in a factory setting. And this pervades a ton of things. So for like 5G, when you hear about 5G, what do you think about? Russia.

Really? I think about towers. Okay, like cell towers. Yeah, exactly. Or people think about like, oh, you know, cell phone radiation is going to give them brain cancer or whatever. 5G is actually not just about cell phones. One of the biggest things about 5G is you can use it to interface a billion robots in your factory and have them all be like super reliable and they're getting a super reliable signal and you can have your entire factory be so much more advanced and complicated and all of that. And...

When I say that, we talk about America reindustrializing, and I think a lot of people, they have this nostalgic vision of what manufacturing is, and they're like, oh, it was so cool when America had steel plants, and this guy could go in with a hard hat and work in a steel plant for 40 hours a week, and he would make this middle-class income and have a wife and his 2.7 kids. And...

I'm not sure if people totally realize what manufacturing is at this point and what it would mean to bring it back to America. And it's sort of. Yeah. Let me read something from a top, top businessman. I'm not going to say who, but you guys would all know the name. And I want you to say because actually this was part of a group chat. I'm on like 900 group chats. And this video got popped up. Someone put it in there and said, quote, America does not have enough people. China has four times our population continues by saying China.

China is extremely automated, so much more so than America. Labor costs are not low in China. What they have are a very large-scale number of hardworking engineers and factory managers. Exactly. So do you agree with all that? Do you think we don't have enough people? I don't think it's number of people. A lot of it is what those people learn. And it's sort of that China made – it's taken decades to get to this point.

So it's that in China, it's prestigious to run a factory. It's prestigious to be good at the stuff that goes into designing a factory. You can make a good living. You can make a good living, but it's just, it is truly prestigious. Whereas even if you wanted to own, like, let's say you wanted to grow up and be a chemicals manufacturer in America.

Charlie, how do you become a chemicals manufacturer in America? I don't really know. What degree do you get? Where do you go to school? If you tell that to your neighbor, they're like, okay. Yeah, yeah, exactly. There's no status. Yeah, and what's the funnel to go into it? It almost probably would be dumb luck. Okay, you major in, you either get a business degree or you major in a chemical engineering and you hopefully end up at the right company. And even then, you're probably at that company. What would you do if you wanted to go your own way and build your own facility from scratch?

Hugely difficult to imagine that. But in China, they're actually they've been doing it for decades at this point. So now what you have is in China, you'll have millions of people with experience in running a factory. So they know how a factory runs. How do you start? How do you build a factory? They know how to build a factory. And you have regulators who are familiar with, OK, how do we approve building a factory? How do we make sure it happens quickly? What are the possible downsides? It's a lot of it's all that expertise stuff that goes into it.

And the culmination is you can do that really automated stuff that's incredibly impressive. And once you have the advantage there, it's a lot harder to lose it.

If your only advantage is having lower labor costs, then someone beats you by having even lower labor costs. And that's happened. They have other advantages. Like garment, you don't make shoes as much in China anymore. You make those in Vietnam or Bangladesh. You make them in places where there actually is lower labor. And they've chosen to specialize in that. But if their specialty is we have the absolute most advanced robots that can build a phone a second with no human input other than fixing a machine when it breaks, how do you beat that, Charlie?

I don't know. And this is – the other problem is that if you try to bring back, which we should, industrial manufacturing, you're going to run into major labor unions. I mean, they don't have labor unions in China. Like, not like this. I mean, they might have some form of – you could correct me if I'm wrong, Blake, but I don't think they have, let's just say, the –

UAW. Commies don't put up with unions. That's part of the irony. That's actually why they have so much automation. There are Chinese factories where the quality of life in the factory is so bad that a worker would come in and they would have 100% turnover every six months. And so the fix is mass automation. What you have in America, we saw this with the longshoremen, is we want to... That's a sore topic around here. Admittedly, but

That was the actual dispute they had, which is they opposed automation. And the deal they reached was, don't automate. This, like, wildly overweight soprano type comes in. I'm going to shut down the ports if you'll give me what I want. All right. All right. This is not my favorite topic. All right. All right. This is... So if...

This is what our system is producing. These girls are on Twitch or something. Is that right? Remember, the base of the Democrat Party is young, unmarried women who are very miserable and visit their doctors all the time for antidepressants and Xanax. And young women tend to be very upset and very troubled. Exhibit A, Play Cut 305. No. No.

Why? Are you on your parents? Yes. Oh, congratulations. What are you going to do? Okay, I'm get my own. How? With my money. How? How? What do you mean? How? Who do you call? To get health insurance? Yeah. Someone who provides health insurance? What is this question? What do you mean? Are you saying because you don't know how? No.

Why don't you ask Lutz's parents? Or your dad? I come from a very Republican family. Dude, you go to the doctor so often. I can't believe you don't have health insurance. I did not know this was you. This sounds like a lecture that I didn't expect. I did not. You ghost.

so often i know but i'm limited because i get really stressed because i don't have any resources and i get really confused it's the same reason that i went to culinary school instead of normal college no one prepped me my family abandoned me i didn't know all of a sudden everyone in junior and in junior year of high school is like i got accepted into harvard i got accepted into mit and i'm like wait we were supposed to submit stuff i had no clue no one told me everyone forgot about me

I think my favorite part of that is you go to the doctor so much. She's like 24. What did I just say? I said they go to the doctor for all sorts of drugs because they're told they have all these problems all the time. Yeah.

Right. Meanwhile, we can't open factories. We wonder why. We can't even get on insurance policies. There's an easy fix. There's an easy fix for this, by the way, folks. It's also the same fix as the birth rate problem. It's called traditional marriage.

traditional marriage. Could you imagine someone being married to her? Have you ever seen... Can you imagine her running a factory? It pops up every time there's a crisis and it's this text exchange where it's this girl, I think a girlfriend, messaging her boyfriend or maybe a wife, husband, and she just says, what's going on with the stock market today? And he just replies, LOL, don't worry about it, babe. And she goes, okay, whatever.

Thank you. It sounds like a heart. Yay. I love that. That's kind of how it goes in our house. She's like, so how are things? We're doing great. Okay. All right, everyone. Keep on committing thought crimes and our campus tour will continue. Crowds are big. Very big.

And Texas A&M was a great time, wasn't it, Blake? Oh, it was amazing. Can we play the Texas A&M Warham video?

the one that we played on the show. Blake, this was probably one of the most amazing entrances of a cop. And it was so, it was spur of the moment. I think we only decided on it. 10 minutes beforehand. I was like, play the fight song. War him. Yeah, yeah, that was so great. I messaged one of my friends who goes to A&M, oh, you guys got really fired up for the fight song. War him. That was the reply I got. By the way, they have all these like traditions. You can't wear your hats in the cafeteria. They say gig'em. God,

Howdy. They hiss. Cut them off. They say that. I guess that's just a normal. It may be the school with the most traditions of any school. Let's watch it. I mean, that's the short version, but it was...

It went two minutes. It was two minutes long. It was incredible. Charlie, can you explain to me what a gig is? Because I understand it means something different down to the Aggies than it does to the rest of us. I don't know, actually. I don't know what they mean by gigging. Gig them. What do you mean gig? In Philly, gig is like a show or a job. Here's Mark Halpern. Not Mark Halpern. I've got to put him on Mark Halpern's show. This is Will Kane covering it. But first, Texas doesn't play around.

This is fun. All my New York producers just discovered the insanity, friendly insanity, Aggies, of Texas A&M. So when Turning Point went to College Station, this just caught everybody in New York's eye. I'm familiar. This is our weird cousin in Texas, who we love, Aggies. Gig'em is approval. Universal sign of enthusiasm and approval. It often is accompanied by a thumbs-up gesture, optism, determination, and loyalty. Oh, people loved this, by the way, when I did that, Tyler. Oof, they loved it.

Yeah. Oh, they loved it. That was like, I got like, I got like, boom. I got like 10 messages. They're like, Charlie just did hordes down. I'm like, what? I saw the video. We got to do more SCC schools. God bless everybody. Thanks so much. Gig'em. Howdy. Hiss. War him. I know all of the A&M folklore. The funniest thing is outside of politics, we strongly disagree with cut him off.

Or outside of college stuff. Do not cut them off. Do not cut them off. Don't cut them off. Unless it's a longhorn. Yeah. God bless. Talk to you soon. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us, as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.