Tulsi Gabbard, Domestic Terrorist?
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Joining us now is great American patriot Tulsi Gabbard. Tulsi, welcome to the program. I encourage everyone to check out your book for love of country. Also, TulsiGabbard.com. So, Tulsi, let's cut to the BS. What should we think of Tim Walz with all of this stolen valor nonsense that is being discovered in the last week? Your thoughts. I don't know.

I am learning a lot about this. I served with him in Congress, was aware marginally of his 24 years of service in the National Guard, but had no idea about much of what is being exposed here. Seems like day after day, there are more people coming forward and pointing out things that he has said that have completely misrepresented his record of service.

The two that really cut to the core are, you can serve our country honorably, you can serve in the reserve, the National Guard, or active duty, but don't pretend or say that you have gone to quote unquote war when you have not. And he did not.

And he apparently over and over and over has made it appear wanting people to believe that he has, which is, it's not only sad, it's an affront to people who have gone and deployed to war multiple times, as many of us have. The second thing is his decision to leave and retire as soon as he found out that his battalion,

As a senior enlisted leader, that his battalion was given notice that they were going to deploy to Iraq in 2005. That was the year that I was there. Our unit was given notice in 2004. We would be there for all of 2005, right in the heart of the Sunni triangle. When he was given notice that his unit was going, he said no, and he retired.

For those of us that are civilians, can you give us something analogous of what that would mean to just kind of turn your back on your battalion? I want to be very careful with my word selection. What should we think of that person's character? I mean, I can tell you...

I can tell you about my own experience and my own decision. In 2004, I was a state representative in Hawaii. I was campaigning for reelection, what looked to be a very easy reelection. I'd served one term or was serving at the end of one term at that point when our National Guard unit was given notice it was going to be called up for an 18-month-long deployment.

I was in a medical headquarters unit at the time. My commander called and said, hey, congratulations, you are not on the mandatory deployment roster. We've got somebody filling the job that you're trained in. You can stay at home. You can finish campaigning for reelection. You continue your service in the state legislature. And my answer to him was no, there's no way that I will stay home and wave goodbye to my brothers and sisters in uniform as they deploy off to the other side of the world to

at the height of the Iraq war and stay back in beautiful Hawaii. There was no way I would allow that to happen. And in uniform, while I was a state legislator in Hawaii, in uniform, my rank was very low. I was a specialist in the E4. But I knew that there was no way that I could stay home and wave goodbye to them.

You look at Tim Walz in a similar situation where he had already decided he wanted to run for Congress. Maybe he hadn't started his campaign yet. And he was given that similar kind of heads up that I was back in 2004. And instead of choosing to stand with his unit, he was then either an E-8, a master sergeant, or he was actually in the command sergeant major role in his unit, which is the senior enlisted leader in...

whose job it is to take care of soldiers, to lead soldiers. And he chose not to go. And he chose to allow them to go to war and deploy without him.

So similarly to this idea of the entire Harris-Walls ticket and what's going on with the federal government, after Joe Biden announced that he was not running for reelection, you went on Laura Ingraham and said how dangerous she would be as commander in chief. The next day, you were then put on a terror watch list called Quiet Skies. Tell our audience all about this. This is chilling.

Yeah, it was July 22nd when I went on Laura Ingram's show and all of this news was breaking. And I said, issued the same warning that I issued back in 2019 when she was running for president in the Democratic primary, as was I, how dangerous she would be as president and commander in chief.

The very next day, what I experienced was the beginning of what would be multiple flights of in-depth screening by TSA, 30 to 45 minutes of search of me and every single article of everything that was in my carry-on in-depth screening. You know, I saw there were more K-9, TSA K-9 teams in the airport,

It wasn't until actually the first week of August that air marshals came forward and disclosed that I was added to this quiet skies list on July 23rd, the very same day that I started to experience TSA PreCheck no longer worked in this heightened security around TSA.

my movements and later found out that there were at least three air marshals on every single flight that I was on. Here's what is at the core of this. This is clearly political retaliation, a violation of my First Amendment rights to free speech and a violation of my Fourth Amendment rights in a right to privacy and has put me in a position now, and I'm not alone. There are others on this list. So this is not just about me, but in a position now where

I don't know what other government agencies are surveilling me and my movements, reading my text messages, surveilling emails or listening to phone calls, and now forever having this stress of looking over my shoulder because my government

Right.

It is an egregious situation that is unconstitutional and provides some insight into what kind of regime we would live under if Kamala Harris is elected as president. It's a very, very serious threat, not only because of what I'm going through, but because this is this is what we have to look forward to in this kind of political retaliatory action. And just so everyone understands that there have been that we know of 99 people.

people on the terror watch list released into the interior United States from the southern border. And yet the federal government is using manpower and resources to act as if you're going to go blow up an airplane. This is purely tyrannical. It is insane. And oh, by the way, for as long as this quiet skies domestic terror watch list system has been in place,

The TSA has not issued a single arrest, nor have they foiled a single domestic terror plot. Not a single one. They have nothing to show for the hundreds of millions of dollars that they dedicate towards this. Almost half of their budget

to the American people. And it is purely targeting everyday Americans like me. So I just I'm trying to understand the whole idea of this program is that we're going to give you extra screening and enhanced attention. This seems to be more about chilling speech than actually protection, because

Of course, there's additional surveillance. But if the TSA was actually doing their job, then why would they have to give additional screening? Right. Means you have a bomb in your your backpack or you don't. This seems as if it is outright intimidation saying, Tulsi, shut up or else we're going to have to go raid your apartment next. That's exactly right. And it does have that chilling effect, not only on me again, wondering why.

How is what I am saying in exercising my right to free speech going to affect me in the sense of my government and law enforcement and the national security state being weaponized against me?

And not only me, by the way, my husband, who was traveling with me on July 23rd, has also been subjected to this. He is also getting that quad S stamp on his boarding pass that subjects him to the very same screening that I have. And this continues on to this day. What has he done? He's done nothing.

It has this chilling effect not only on me, but on people who are watching this. Check out Tulsi's book. You also can look at TulsiGabbard.com. It's for love of country. This is anarcho-tyranny, where you can come into the country and no one will stop you. Millions and millions of people. But if you have political views that disagree with the current regime, they will surveil you. They will intimidate you. They will chill you. And we see this with Steve Bannon right now in federal prison. Peter Navarro went to federal prison.

And this is not just what will happen if Kamala Harris, she's currently the vice president. She's calling the shots right now. And she wants to shut up all the dissidents.

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Yeah, it's real. And it's noticeable for anybody who was paying attention how quickly the mainstream propaganda media flipped the switch and immediately started, you know, this revisionist history and the borders are example. Of course, everyone has seen these videos of even the mainstream media saying, well, she's the border czar and she's responsible for border security. This is the task Joe Biden gave her.

And then right after he endorsed her to be the Democratic nominee, they're saying, well, no, she was never the border czar. That was never her job. So they're not even trying to be sneaky about this. So number one is just calling them out for what it is.

But to me, the most important thing is recognizing what her record has been as President Biden's partner over the last three and a half years. And it is an abysmal, terrible, horrific record when we think about what is in the best interest of our country in every respect.

the best way to be able to defeat her is by speaking the truth about her record when it comes to our own border security, when it comes to domestic policy, when it comes to her championing our children, uh,

being violated both in the classroom and the sexualization of our kids, and propagating and pushing these irreversible gender mutilation surgeries. What to speak of foreign policy, what to speak of the economy. There are so many different issues where her record is abysmal when we look at it through the context of what's in the best interest of the American people. And then you compare and contrast the truth about her failures with

With President Trump's record, we don't have to take his word for it. We can look at what his record was as president for four years. Yes. And so the how then just from a strategic standpoint, do we get the message out when she will not even do a sit down interview where she will not take questions from reporters?

This this is a sad state of the modern Democrat Party. I know you talk about this in your book, but the Democrat Party won't even talk to the press. I thought that they're all about like open democracy and reporters are the best things ever and that reporters are like close to sainthood. Yet she has such low respect for the people and for reporters that she won't even sit down for an interview.

And that is exactly the point that we need to keep reminding people of, is that she wants to be our president and commander in chief, and yet she refuses to speak to us through journalists, through the media. I mean, she won't even talk to the media who are likely to do puff pieces on her and softball interviews on.

And I think it just reveals again, how do you expect us to believe that you are capable of being president and commander in chief when you can't even handle a single interview or a single press conference? And I think contrasting that again with President Trump's press conference the other day where he went for over an hour, I think he answered, what, 50 questions over that period of time? An open book, transparent, speaking to the American people and being true to who he is and the problems he sees in the country and how he seeks

to solve them. I think this debate coming up is going to be very revealing where she won't be able to have a teleprompter and it will provide that opportunity to expose her in the same way that I did back in 2019 of how unprepared she is and how lacking she is on substance. She's going to try to smile her way through this election. We can't allow people to fall for that. So if you were in the room doing debate prep for President Trump,

I hope you are. I'm going to push for that because you're one of the few people that's actually debated against Kamala Harris. So I'm going to make a phone call after this. I think you should be on the team. What would you say? What tactically, tonally and policy wise advice would you give about a minute and a half remaining?

The way President Trump carried himself and projected himself during his debate with President Biden, I think, is the same approach that he should take with Kamala Harris and just confront her with her record.

She will be forced to respond. Doing that and taking that approach, speaking facts about her record puts her on defense. And she's shown she is not very capable of a strong defense because there isn't one. That is exactly right. Well, I encourage everyone to check out your book for Love of Country. Thank you so much, Tulsi Gabbard. Thank you. I appreciate it, Charlie.

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Joining us now is Mark Mitchell, head pollster for Rasmussen Reports. So, Mark, I don't envy you right now because I'm sure you're doing a lot of interviews where the host is panicking. And they're, Mark, tell me it's not true. Tell me it's not true. Maybe not. But at least if you had any window into my phone yesterday, I had at least nine different people, some donors, some activists. Charlie, what's going on with this New York Times, Cienapol? What's going on here?

So, Mark Mitchell, tell us, what is the true state of the race, Kamala versus Trump? Well, I think we've built up a lot of trust and the people who are following us, let me tell you, are not freaking out because exactly what's playing out right now in our numbers is what I predicted.

Donald Trump was beating Joe Biden all year up very comfortably. And the entire time we were polling on Kamala Harris, every time we poll, she's slightly less favorable than Biden. She underperforms him by maybe one point against Trump. And I said, well, if they switcheroo, like nobody really cares on the Democrat side who the candidate is. The numbers we are going to see are the exact same.

Before and after. Now, you know, there's always bounces and swings happen. And we absolutely saw that in our data. We poll every night. And I tell you what, every other pollster is polling every night as well. And what they saw is the same thing I saw in my data, which is the very first night, you know, out of the blue, everybody's like Kamala Harris, the switcheroo happened. Donald Trump beat her by 16 nights.

in a matchup, 16 points. The very next night, it was down to six points. And then for a couple of days, Kamala Harris in our polling actually beat Donald Trump by two or three points. But then it all faded. It's gone. The bounce is over. And we've been polling every night, putting out our big polls on Thursday. That's a cumulative aggregate of all of the data.

And what I'm starting to notice is that nobody's putting out polls this week. Everybody watching this should go to RealClearPolitics and just, you know, look at the race right now and the general election 2024 race. There have only been two polls put out that have data any fresher than August 1st.

So what I think is happening is I think the entire polling industry is trying to carry water for the Democrats right now. There was a slew of polls that came out when she became the candidate. And you're telling me all of a sudden, 84 days to the election, she just picked her vice presidential running mate and not a single poll except for like YouGov. And the New York Times Sienna one, which was so can you help us kind of deconstruct that? Yeah.

That one was just like three swing states. They picked the three swing states that were worse for Donald Trump. And listen, here's the thing. Trust is very important. People talk about transparency in polling. Let me tell you, if I wanted to, I could do whatever I wanted with these numbers. There's no amount of transparency that would make up for an unscrupulous pollster. And let me tell you how we're different from New York Times, Sienna. New York Times is

has a huge revenue line. They have a ton of money that they can throw at polling and it doesn't really matter to them if they're accurate or not. If our polling is inaccurate, we go out of business. So I'm trying very hard not to be biased, to find the biases, to put out accurate numbers. And if, if I see no pollsters out there doing general election match-ups, that tells me that they're seeing the same numbers I am. And I just refuse to publish the poll. I,

New York Times Sienna, I'm sure, was in the poll this whole last week asking general election matchups. So where are their numbers? Why didn't they put them out? When are they going to stick their neck out and show that Kamala Harris, the honeymoon's gone. It's faded. You know,

There's no amount of bounce based on just press and zero accomplishments. I mean, all the questions we've asked about her record are absolutely horrible. People think she failed as the borders are. People think her economic policies are going to be way worse than Trump's. So, I mean, to me, that's the fundamentals of the race. And again, sometimes Info Ops

are successful. They do seem to be thrown very rapidly at people like one after the other. No, Trump didn't get shot. Yes, J.D. Vance is weird. Like, you know, these things happen and they kind of work. Right now, I think pollsters are ducking and hiding and waiting for maybe the beginning of the DNC or I don't know, maybe while we're talking right now, everybody's dropping their polls.

But I just don't see how, based on where my numbers were before the switcheroo and after the switcheroo, how anybody – I mean Trump was up like three points in the RealClearPolitics aggregate before the switcheroo.

So it's going to go right back to that if it hasn't already. So let's let's just repeat. What do your numbers show right now? What is your number show in Arizona? What are they showing Georgia, Pennsylvania, not the national polls, but walk us through kind of the. So if if Donald Trump wins Pennsylvania, Georgia, he's president because he's going to win Iowa. He'll win North Carolina. He'll win Ohio. He'll win Florida. I already have those in the in the safe category. So therefore, if he wins Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona would be nice, but it's not as necessary. It's done. So let's go one by one. What is what is your polling show in Pennsylvania?

I just want to step back. And again, the top line national numbers last time we put the big one out five points up Trump in an international election poll. Right. So that is like a 12 or 13 points reversal from where he was four years ago. I just want everybody to understand that as a context for the swing states.

Polling in swing states is hard, especially now that everybody goes to online panels. The online panels in the states are really small, and every swing state poll is smaller than a national poll. It's going to have a larger margin of error.

We went into the swing states in July and in every single one of the six swing states in a multi-way matchup, we had Donald Trump up from one point all the way up to nine points in Arizona. We had him up five in Georgia. I think we had him up three or four in Pennsylvania. So we had Trump

comfortably winning every single one of the swing states closest to Michigan tied in a two-way. But again, there's a larger margin of error there. But what's important to point out in that poll, that particular sample, when it was all collected, Trump was winning three points nationally. So for real clear politics aggregate to have Trump up three nationally, I don't care what the swing states say. They're going to probably look pretty similar to mine, right? And we'll have to see, right? There's tricks that people are going to do when they put these swing states out that can

pick when to specifically when to sample. They can aggressively squash results that they think are outlier data points. They can surreptitiously switch the way that they wait and oversample Democrats versus Republicans. That's one of the tactics I think a lot of people are using right now. I can proudly say we're Democrat plus two. We might go to Democrat plus three, but I tell people if I'm going to shift them, I'm not going to do D plus two one week to show that

Donald Trump beating Joe Biden and then D plus five the following week to show Kamala Harris up. That's scummy because it doesn't show up in the disclosures. So I don't know. I think there's a lot of negative tricks. And I think ultimately, as we all know, and as we'll tell you, and most other pollsters will not, that election integrity matters more now, especially this year than it ever has before.

And all of the numbers about that topic are going in the wrong direction. So, I mean, again, I'm not going to- What do you mean by that? What do you mean the wrong direction? What do you mean by that? Well, after the 2020 election, you know, we all heard about the big lie, right? When we went into the field and said to people, how likely is it that cheating affected the outcome of the 2020 election?

We got a number kind of in the high 40s that people said, well, it was at least somewhat likely. We've asked that question seven, eight, nine times between now and back in the 2020 race. And now we've started asking about the upcoming 2024 election. The number is up to 66%.

So now two out of three voters in this country think it's at least somewhat likely that cheating is going to affect the outcome of the election. A majority of Democrats now for the first time, a massive number of Republicans and the independents tend to agree with Republicans on this topic. But we've asked a bunch of different ways, too. And I'll tell you, like we have a very strong body of election integrity work. We're really the only ones.

Numbers coming out today, how likely is it that noncitizens are legally registered to vote in your state where you live? 55% of voters say at least somewhat likely. 32% say very likely. 69% of Republicans. And we've had a couple other zingers over the last couple months, too. In that same wing state poll that we did, in the national portion, which was a 2,500-person poll,

We showed that 9%, and again, this is a likely voter poll, 9% of the respondents answered either no or not sure to the question, are you a US citizen? 5.3% said no. No, 97% of those people in the 2020 who did you vote for question said they voted for one of the candidates. So according to that poll,

Non-citizens are voting in the United States. And we also had a great one we did with Heartland. We asked 2020 voters who voted by mail-in ballot. We gave them a list of five potential things that they could have done with mail-in ballots that were fraudulent. Like, hey, did you fill one out for somebody else? Did you, you know, vote in a state that wasn't your own? Blah, blah, blah. 28%.

of people who voted in the 2020 election admitted at least one of those forms of fraud in a poll. The average was about like 20% for each one of them.

I mean, it goes on and on. In that same swing state poll, we asked people, hey, in the 2020 election, did you receive more than one mail-in ballot or a ballot at your house for somebody that didn't live there? It was 18% nationally, 20% in the swing states. So elections are an absolute mess in this country. Everybody seems to know it.

in my opinion, along with the suppression polls or the, like, whatever the opposite of suppression is, they aren't polling at all. It's crazy. 84 days to election. One poll that's not Rasmussen came out since

Since August 4th, they just declared Tim Waltz, the Democrat running mate and not a single national corporate media pollster cares to understand what Americans think about that selection. Because when Kamala Harris got, you know, became the candidate or the switcheroo, Reuters Ipsos was tripping over themselves to put a poll out within 36 hours. Where are all the rush polls?

to put, you know, polls out showing how great a pick Tim Waltz was. Well, there aren't any because I'm pretty sure they're going to show that Kamala Harris is losing to Donald Trump nationally right now. Let's play cut 15, please.

Donald Trump and J.D. Vance here. We know, you know, I've been talking about J.D. Vance's net negative favorability rate, and that is more people view him unfavorably than favorably. Donald Trump has the same thing. I will point out this is among the higher numbers for Trump, but still, he's underwater here at minus seven points. Jump over to the Democratic side with me, if you will. Take a look here. Kamala Harris...

is actually better liked by more voters than she is disliked at a plus two net favorable rating. And then Tim Walz here at a plus 11 rating. It's as simple as this. Politics is about being liked and the Democratic ticket is better liked than the Republican ticket. Respond to that, Mark Mitchell. I mean, listen, every human has biases. Every poll has biases in it. I'm trying to get them out of my polling because we cease to exist and

There's a great chart I'd love for you guys to put up, or if you could go look at our Raspus and Twitter feed that shows all of our polling in 2016, 2020. Everybody calls us a right-wing pollster. We were actually 1.5, two points left in 2020, and we were incredibly accurate. So at the end of the day, it comes down to track record. Right now, my numbers show Trump's up about three to five points right now. Nationally, is that right? Yeah. Okay.

And which means, by extension, he's doing great in most of the swing states, in my opinion. Oh, yeah. I mean, if he wins the popular vote by three points, there's no world where he doesn't become president. Mark Mitchell, Rasmussen Reports. Thank you so much. My pleasure.

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Voter registration is an indicator of enthusiasm and grassroots muscle. And I got to give Turning Point Action a lot of credit. We are in the grassroots. So we're told that Kamala Harris is surging. Now, in the summer of 2020, when I started to get worried was when I realized when Joe Biden was, quote unquote, surging or the opposition of Trump was building is when we started to get slaughtered in voter registration numbers. That's when I started to get a little bit concerned.

In June and July of last year, when all of a sudden we were losing significant net ground in Arizona, losing significant net ground in Pennsylvania, losing significant net ground in Georgia. This is the trench data, if you will. It is highly predictive of enthusiasm and where voters actually are. Polling is very tough. You got Mark Mitchell does a great job. But voter registration number is like a poll.

It's like a poll because you're able to say our side is you have new people moving to the state. Is it becoming redder? Is it becoming bluer? And if you register Republican, you have a 90 plus percent chance of actually voting Republican. 90 plus and Democrats like 95 percent. So if you get them to vote, it's a very, very high correlation of banking those votes. This is not an opinion. You can't skew these using online manipulation. This is hard data. Okay.

So since comlamentum began in the battleground states of Arizona, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, in these battleground states, we have gained 252,000 new registered voters and the Democrats lost 19,088.

These are polls that you should look at. These are polls that I like. In Arizona, thanks to the hard work of Turning Point Action and all of you that support Turning Point in the grassroots, in Arizona, we registered 19,884 new voters in July. The Democrats, they registered 3,491. So we increased our net advantage in the month of July by 16,000 voters.

In 2020, Donald Trump fell 10,000 votes short in Arizona. So just in the month of July, grassroots patriots and turning point action and many other groups that are working hard, we outregistered the deficit in just one month of what we fell short of in 2020. In 2020, in the month of July, we got slaughtered in voter registration. Pennsylvania.

In the state of Pennsylvania, in the month of July, we registered 21,325 new voters. Democrats, they registered 5,788 new voters. In Pennsylvania, we outregistered them by 16,000 new voters. Now, what's amazing is that Arizona is becoming significantly redder than Pennsylvania.

In North Carolina, 6,294 new registered Republicans. Democrats lost 722.

Now, here's the one that I love out of all of them, which goes to show that there is a right wing revolution. Get it. That is a foot and it's happening in the voter registration data. We have to chase and we have to close hard. We have to destroy. We have to disassemble the gaslighting operation. Everyone that is mission critical. We have to get this gaslighting operation putting in check and then we have to chase and we have to close. We have to chase. We have to close. We have to chase. We have to close. And those are two things.

We have to get on message. We have to find a message that resonates. And we have to close like Mariano Rivera the last 60 days of the election. And then we have to chase ballots like our life depends on it. California. In the month of July in California, California lost 43,733 Democrats and gained 94,667 Republicans.

That is a 150,000 net increase swing for Republicans in California. In California. If those numbers can scale over the course of a year, and you can scale them for two or three years, again, that's a lot of ifs. California could become competitive in the next five or ten years. And I know Blake is going to say, no way. Run the numbers. Again, it might have just been a really good month, but you have 150,000.

a month in California as Republicans, and you do that for one year, two year, three year, four year, five year straight, I'm not saying you can win it, but you can get close. You can start to close the gap. But the point is this, is these are real polls, not the nonsense that you see. This helps congressional races in California, but let's talk about battleground states. Ignore the polls and look at the voter reg data. We are beating them in the trenches. Maybe that's why they're acting like

with such panic behind a person that we know is a communist, Kamala Harris. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening, and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.