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2024/8/13
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Bill Essayli: 加州民主党压制、惩罚和噤声试图取消对强奸儿童的非法移民的庇护州政策的共和党议员。他们否决了一项旨在取消对被判犯有性侵儿童罪的非法移民的庇护州政策的法案。他们不习惯真正的反对党,并对挑战其权威的议员采取压制措施,即使涉及到取消对强奸儿童者的庇护州政策,加州民主党议员也对两党合作不感兴趣。要打破加州一党独大的局面,需要在选举中击败民主党。关注父母权利问题是击败加州民主党的一个关键策略。卡玛拉·哈里斯在担任加州司法部长期间,实施了激进的刑事司法改革,导致犯罪率上升。加州的犯罪问题与卡玛拉·哈里斯在担任司法部长期间实施的政策有关。需要在加州议会中增加更多战斗型的共和党议员来对抗民主党。 Tyler Bowyer: TP Action 的“Commit 100”倡议旨在动员志愿者联系选民,确保他们投票。“Commit 100”倡议的目标是确保共和党选民投票,防止选举舞弊。选票追踪是指识别并联系需要鼓励投票的选民。左派擅长识别并联系选民以确保投票,而右派需要改进这方面的工作。 Megan Basham: 她的书《待售牧羊人》探讨了福音派领袖如何为了左翼议程而牺牲真理。一些福音派领袖接受了左翼亿万富翁的资助,以推动其左翼政策议程。一些福音派领袖为了迎合世俗精英,在圣经立场明确的问题上改变了立场。一些福音派领袖在2020年大选中提升了民主党人士的地位,并暗示他们是真诚的基督徒。《今日基督教》等组织在2020年大选中宣传了民主党人士,现在又在为哈里斯这样做。自由派世俗激进分子资助牧师是为了影响福音派选民。自由派世俗基金会通过资助福音派团体来推动其左翼议程。一些牧师接受左翼基金会的资助,是为了获得精英阶层的青睐和认可。一些牧师的政治立场比其信徒更自由化。“后派对”组织及其政治圣经研究课程接受了左翼基金会的资助,并被用于影响保守派教会和大学。洛克菲勒慈善顾问和休利特基金会等组织资助了“后派对”组织,并支持对儿童进行变性手术。基督教组织接受左翼基金会的资助是不可接受的。《今日基督教》等组织通过宣传哈里斯的宗教信仰来影响选民。罗素·摩尔、大卫·弗伦奇和丹尼·艾肯是利用宗教信仰进行政治宣传的主要罪犯。丹尼·艾肯在推动批判性种族理论和多样性、公平和包容性倡议方面发挥了作用。信徒应该离开那些牧师利用讲台宣传进步政治的教会。

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California Assemblyman Bill Essayli discusses his efforts to remove sanctuary state protections for illegal immigrants who commit child sex crimes, and the retaliation he faces from Democrats.

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Hey, everybody. Thank you for watching the Charlie Kirk Show. We talk to an assembly member in California on the front lines of the fight for parental rights and so much more. Megan Basham joins us, Shepherds for Sale, and Tyler Boyer goes through our latest project at Turning Point Action, Commit 100. That is tpaction.com slash commit 100, tpaction.com slash commit 100. Buckle up, everybody. Here we go. Charlie, what you've done is incredible here. Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus. I want you to know we are lucky to be here.

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I just got word that I'm being removed from my committees. Some of you will recall last week I brought a bill to remove sanctuary state protection for pedophiles in the state of California and the Democrats here did not like that. So they cut off my microphone and I just got word the speaker of the state assembly who runs the place is removed me from my committee. But you know what? It's okay. I wear this as a badge of honor. It means I'm doing the right thing. It means I'm looking out for the people of this state.

and for children who are being victimized by these illegal immigrants. So bring it on. More to come. Joining us now, that is Bill E. Saley, a California state assemblyman. Bill, what's going on in that? Thank you for joining the show in that clip. Walk us through it.

Yeah, so a lot of people think that California is like this lost cause and Republicans shouldn't even try. What I do is I try to bring up issues to put the Democrats on record and expose their radical agenda. One of them is sanctuary state. So I brought a bill. It was very simple. It said, you know what? Let's roll back sanctuary state for convicted child sex predators. Can we do that? Can we agree that that is a bad thing?

Every single Democrat voted against it. Every single one of them. And they try to say as a procedural vote, whatever BS, but

But we got them on record. And I think it's stuff like that that really exposes them. And so the punishment when you do that, because the Democrats, they're OK with having Republicans there, but they want you to behave. As soon as you start doing stuff like what I do, they retaliate because that's who they are. So, yeah, they strip me of my committees. They turn off my microphone all the time up there. They dry up my fundraising. That's what the Democrat Party does up there.

So explain the bill you're bringing to the floor in detail. We have some time. So go through the specifics there. Well, this one, this was that one's already dead. It's I'll try to bring it again next year. But the bill was in reaction to a report by Bill Malujan in which a believe a Colombian illegal immigrant had raped a 12 year old girl in California. He got some sentence of only like five years or something crazy.

And he was released onto the street instead of being handed over to ICE for deportation. And the reason he was is because California has sanctuary state policies. It is illegal for law enforcement, for the sheriff or a police officer to cooperate with ICE and to hand over an illegal immigrant for deportation purposes. So that's why I wrote the bill. I said for people who've been convicted of raping kids illegally,

Let's roll back sanctuary state. Let's allow law enforcement to deport those people. And every single Democrat refused to support it. Let's let's play cut 37. I am tired of being interrupted by you. You do not interrupt them. You are about a second. You do not.

I wasn't prepared to address the Chinese Communist Party House today. And you're not addressing them now. You're out of order. You're out of order. You're disparaging the House. I have a question. Did you cut off my microphone on the last round? What is the basis for turning off the microphone? I chose to. Yeah, so you're like the dictator here in this democracy. But Madam Chair, I have a question. I'd like to know in that context...

Excuse me. My point of order, Mr. Chair, is that you continually interrupt me. Mr. I am. You are out of order now. You are now disparaging the chair. You are out of order. I am appealing your ruling. This is not debatable. I am appealing your ruling. You are out of order. I appeal your ruling. We'll do this all day.

What is going on in that? They're cutting off your mic. What's going on there? You know, Charlie, what this comes down to, and I hate to say this, they're not used to having a real opposition party up there. And I hate to say it because I'm a Republican. I love being a Republican. But for too long, the party has just been –

And they basically they put out strong messages, but they're not willing to actually fight in the legislature. And that's what fighting looks like. It means upsetting them, making them mad and exposing them. And for too long, they've never really had that up in Sacramento. So I'm different. I come back. I come from a background of being a prosecutor. I have no interest in being a politician. Frankly, I ran as a.

as a way to give back to this great country and the state. And I just looked at the legislature, I go, there has to be better. So I ran, I'll do this for as long as it'll be effective, but my goal in life is not to be reelected, it's to make a difference. And that's what fighting looks like. And that's what I'm trying to show my colleagues

is how to fight. What part of California do you represent? I represent Riverside County, Western Riverside County. I grew up in Corona and it's pretty conservative. I know it well. It's a great spot. There are a fair amount of liberals in Riverside too, just for the record. But so help me understand that your Democrat colleagues are so uninterested in any sort of bipartisanship, even when it comes to removing sanctuary state protections for people that rape kids.

that they're taking California so for granted. Is there any progress for meaningful bipartisanship with your colleagues, or is it just pure Soviet one-party rule?

I don't believe that they have any interest in actually working with us. When they use the word bipartisanship, they mean if they can get Republicans to support their agenda. And frankly, they're pretty successful at doing that. They get Republicans to support some of their watered down policies. They're never going to support a policy that is conservative or that advances the ball on our side. So I dissuade my colleagues of that illusion. We need to defeat these people at the ballot box. You know, California in the state assembly, we have 80 seats.

18 of those are Republican. If we pick up nine seats, we can break the supermajority. That is very doable. But you're not going to do that by being Democrat light. You have to draw a clear contrast. And where I see our greatest hope of doing that right now, Charlie, is on the issue of parental rights. This is a sleeper issue. It really is. This is an issue that's waking up people and saying, wait a minute.

What's going on with the kids? What are they doing at the school? What are they teaching them? And then they're keeping it secret from me. Now, I'm not cool with that. So that is an issue where if the party would embrace it, I think you'll see a mass exodus of particularly Latinos out of the Democrat Party. And they're ready to come over, but they want to know that we're real and we're going to fight for them. So. So, Bill, Kamala Harris obviously is from your state.

What what should the national audience know about Kamala Harris that you in Sacramento know that you think deserves more coverage? Who is Kamala Harris? Oh, obviously, she's incompetent. She's wholly unqualified for the job, but separate and apart. When she was the attorney general, she oversaw one of the most radical criminal justice reforms in the state of California. She emptied our prisons. We went from having one hundred and eighty thousand prisoners to

in our prison beds we're down to 90 000 prisoners she was there when we passed prop 47 which basically legalized petty theft all the shoplifting you're seeing in california um all the drug use got decriminalized all the homelessness on the street that's because of prop 47 and there were other policies at that time but she oversaw the most radical criminal justice

reforms in the state of California that's responsible for the mass crime you have today in our streets. Just look at California. And that's what the future of the United States will be if she's ever elected. The on the ground, it feels like Californians are starting to wake up. What areas of California are you going to be? Obviously, your race, do you think are prime for a correction away from one party rule?

The Inland Empire, the Riverside County. Yes, I agree with that. So we just got a report from the Secretary of State. Voter registration for Republicans increase in every single county in the state of California. We beat Democrats in the voter registration. We still have a long way to go, but the trend is good. And...

And what we're seeing is in the Inland Empire, it's higher than anywhere else in the state. So I think that's where we focus in. I've been working a lot with Rick Grinnell in Fix, California. He's investing a lot in digital technology.

voter registration. So I'm all about it. The party is frankly not doing a lot in that space. So we need someone to focus on voter registration because once you convert someone from a Democrat to Republican, they're going to vote for a ton of races. So it's a huge bang for your butt to get someone into the party.

But this is important, Charlie. We've got four Republican seats that are open in this next cycle. I need fighters up there with me right now. It's very important. What the Sacramento Swamp does is they try to get rhinos in those seats.

So there's about four seats that are really there are solid Republicans and there's two Republicans running. And so I'm also very focused on on helping those candidates like Tanesa Adet in Assembly District one. We have Carl DeMaio running in San Diego. I need fighters up there in Sacramento because then we can change the narrative because I need help. I need help to get the message out.

Love it, Bill. Excellent work. Can you plug your social so people know how to support you? Yeah, we're on all the socials at Bill Asaley, E-S-S-A-Y-L-I. Or you could visit our website, FightSacramento.com, if my name's too hard to spell. Yeah, just go to FightSacramento.com. Very good. Bill, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you, Charlie.

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Yeah, it's the connection. It's the Arizona, Milwaukee. And the Brewers used to do their spring training in Chandler, Arizona. So all three states that we have to win are attached. Well, there you go. Tyler, what is Commit 100? Tell our audience all about it.

So commit 100 is the program we launched today for every volunteer to get involved and commit to chase 100 ballots in Arizona, Wisconsin, and we'll be expanding to other states as well. But today it's get on tpaction.com slash commit 100 or just slash 100.

and anyone can sign up, our team will then take that, help people make sure that they have the Turning Point application downloaded, and they'll have assigned to them specific data that's closest to them of people that they need to chase. And our ask is that everyone just commits to chase 100 ballots.

That's about 10 ballots per day. That's 10 days of work in Arizona or Wisconsin. You can obviously spread that out over the course of the election month as the Democrats have created for us. But that is the ask is talk to 100 people, make sure 100 of these low propensity Republicans remember to vote, that we aid them to vote, that we become the concierge for them to vote.

And they get it done. And we right now, I can tell you, Charlie, we've already today had hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of people sign up. Our goal is to have thousands of people sign up to commit 100 in Arizona and at least over a thousand people in Wisconsin. This is going to make it way too big to rig.

And so we need everybody to go to tpaction.com/100. Our team is standing by. They will make assignments of over 100 voters that they'll give you. And if you're interested in coming to Arizona, you can travel to Arizona. You can apply for a hotel, a free hotel to stay in Arizona or Wisconsin in the month of October.

Or you can do this remotely. So we'll give you assignments to make calls and send postcards or letters from whatever state you're in. So, Tyler, some people are asking, it's an elementary question. What is ballot chasing? Ballot chasing is just the act of identifying the right voters that we need to contact to make sure that they turn out to vote.

What the left has been really good at, Charlie, as we've been talking till we're blue in the face about this for the last few years, is that the left is really good at identifying the right voters to go contact and turn out. And so it turns out it's actually a lot harder to convince somebody to change their mind than somebody who's already on your side, but just is a little bit lackadaisical with their voting habits.

So on our side, we have a lot of people, Charlie, we've already been out. We have hundreds and hundreds of full-time people who are out in the field. They've been talking to these voters that sometimes forget to vote. And a lot of them love President Trump. They love the conservative movement. Some of them have Trump flags in their garage and hanging off their house. But they didn't vote in 2016 or 2020. It's crazy stuff.

Yeah, just really quick. How many voters in Arizona are disengaged that fit our profile that did not vote in 2020? Over a couple hundred thousand. Over a couple hundred thousand. We have close to 200,000 people that are just like low-hanging fruit waiting for us to go out and chase.

And why has no one done this before in the past? It's a lot of work, Charlie. As you know, it's been a ton of work to hire people in the right neighborhoods. We've hired full-time people in the proper neighborhoods to chase these people. You got to know them, right? People only trust their neighbors. They don't trust random Joe Schmoes who show up to their door. And so our goal has been

hire people and recruit people in the right neighborhoods, which was what we've strategically done, and then put as many bodies on the ground as humanly possible. We had a lot of people in 2020 who wanted to help President Trump, but they just weren't given enough to do. We are going to ensure that nobody can come out of the 2024 election saying, I didn't have enough to do. Tyler Boyer, thank you so much. Check it out at tpaction.com slash commit 100. Thanks, Charlie.

Megan Basham is with us, author of the terrific book, How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda. It's very important. Check it out. Shepherds for Sale by Megan Basham. Megan, first, let's just kind of start off the bat. Some people have been criticizing your wonderful book. What are they saying? And would you like to respond to those criticisms?

Sure. Yeah. I mean, most of what it has come down to is people don't like being quoted on what they said. So you've seen a lot of scrambling to go, well, that's not what I meant. Or even though the entire thrust of my comments were that Christians need to take up the issue of climate change, I didn't really mean that. And hey, I issued this disclaimer at the very end of my presentation, and she did not emphasize the disclaimer. She had

So for the audience that is not yet familiar, just quickly summarize your thesis of the book and then please name some of the names of the shepherds who prostituted themselves out for cash.

Yeah. So the premise of the book is about how a lot of well-known evangelical leaders and institutions sold out for a leftist agenda for a variety of reasons. One is that they were getting involved with left-wing billionaire funded organizations. So we're talking about secular atheists like George Soros,

Guys like Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg. So people who are not Christians were funneling money into these evangelical institutions to push them to the left on a variety of policies like climate change, like lax border policies. They convinced them to take stands against things like Trump's remain in Mexico policy.

So that is one part of it. And then another part of it is how basically to solicit media and favor from the secular elite world, they moderated their stances where the Bible is crystal clear, like issues like transgenderism and what a man and a woman is. One of the people that I highlight in this book is a well-known pastor named J.D. Greer, who was the

president of the Southern Baptist Convention for several years who advocated something called pronoun hospitality. So, you know, he's one of the guys who's not very happy that I have highlighted that, but these are his words. It is what he said. And when I had interviewed him about it at the time, he doubled down on it. So that's really what the book is about.

But then another part of it is very important to the election happening right now, because that is about how some of these evangelical leaders, we saw it in 2020, elevated Democratic operatives and suggested that they were...

sincere Christians seeking to live out their faith in the halls of political power, people like a guy named Michael Ware, who came out of the Obama administration and was an architect of evangelicals for Biden. And they were very successful. You saw organizations like Christianity Today, the Gospel Coalition, really highlighting his work, endorsing him.

praising him. So you fast forward to what's happening right now, and they're doing the same thing again with Harris. So at its base, so much of this is politically motivated. And you see these same figures at Christianity Today taking a lot of money from hard left secular foundations to do things like pump political Bible studies into churches and onto Christian college campuses in order to sway the vote to the left.

So, yeah, there's just so much there. And you've named some of the names. So these are people that call themselves pastors. It's bad enough that they're embracing left-wing politics, but they're also doing it for cash from the worst people. I mean, the vermin of society that they're not Christians. They actually have really bitterness towards Christianity.

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Well, you know, the liberal secular foundations, to give you one example, George Soros' Open Society Foundation, I lay out in the book memos where they explain explicitly why they're doing it. They recognized about 10 years ago that their policy preferences kept continually running into the same roadblock, and that was evangelical voters. They represent roughly 30 percent of the American electorate. They're overwhelmingly conservative.

And guys like Soros realized they were not going to be able to get their agenda advanced if they didn't find a way to deal with those voters. So what they came up with was what you could essentially call AstroTurf campaigns. They started to help fund evangelical front groups

And steer money into them so that people that they named evangelical influencers would then subtly take these more left wing positions publicly. And their hope was that these views, these left wing views would then trickle down to the pews and really disarm the strength of that evangelical electorate.

So that's why they did it as to why the pastors have been doing it. Well, one, I think they like to curry favor with these elite international power brokers. Suddenly they're in a new class of people. They

They're hanging out with the WEF. They're being invited to Davos. Those things aren't so surprising that they find that a little bit appealing. And then the other part of it is, is I do think in some sense, the leadership class is far more liberal than the rank and file anyway.

So they were a lot easier to co-opt in this way. And that's why they've been infiltrating them. And I can give you just one example. You said these organizations are in no way Christian. No, they're not. And just one huge example that is really important right now is this group called the After Party. So it's led by David French, New York Times columnist, who says he's a Christian. But as we know, he just endorsed Kamala Harris.

And Russell Moore, editor-in-chief at Christianity Today, a confirmed never-Trumper. Well, they developed this political Bible study. They say it's nonpartisan, but all three men behind it are confirmed never-Trumpers, and two of them now are openly saying, Curtis Chang and David French, that they're voting for Kamala Harris.

And so this political Bible study received its funding exclusively from hard left secular foundations like Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors and the Hewlett Foundation. Both of these organizations are the kind of groups that also support ensuring that, and I'm going to use their terminology, that youth,

have access to gender affirming care. So we understand what that means. They're trying to ensure that kids can be mutilated with puberty blockers, cross-sex hormones, surgeries. And there are also rabid abortion proponents. So Hewlett Foundation is the second largest funder of Planned Parenthood in the country.

So you have to ask yourself, why would any Christian organization be taking money from people like that? And what they're in turn doing is they have developed this political Bible study. It's going into conservative churches, not left-wing churches, but I'm seeing it at –

Unwary, maybe unthinking conservative churches and the Council for Christian Colleges and Universities, which represents 185 member schools, including conservative schools like ASUSA and Biola. They have been promoting this on their campuses. Well, Biola is not conservative and they haven't been for quite some time. They got Ed Stetzer running their seminaries.

But they have that branding. And I think that's what's so confusing to people is they have that branding and an unwary parent who's not paying attention doesn't realize that they're partnering with these kind of people. Yeah, I think I actually met

And David Hogue, who's in charge of the Christian—it's interesting—Council for Christian Universities and Colleges. I'm going to reach out to him because he seems like a really sweet guy. I don't think he might be aware of that. Well, and let me just say, there was a change of leadership there, like, just in the last couple of months. Yeah, he's the new guy. So hopefully he shakes it up. Maybe it was part of that. So this is not surprising to me, but for many people in our audience that go to some of these weak churches with these weak pastors—

They don't quite understand this. You've done some amazing work exposing it, and they don't like actually learning that. They don't like that people are learning about their own

and how they're doing this to get rich while they do things that are super unbiblical. Can you comment on the 50 black pastors that came out in support of Kamala? In addition, Christianity Today, Christianity Today pushing Kamala Harris. Yeah. Okay. So as I mentioned, that after party curriculum, which...

Christianity Today editor-in-chief Russell Moore helped develop. They are taking that hard left secular funding. And then in addition to that, you suddenly see Christianity Today running articles about how all of these black pastors find Kamala's candidacy fascinating.

So very inspiring. And when you looked at the, um, the layout and the article that Christianity Today ran, it was overwhelmingly positive. And this was just in the last couple of weeks. It was a picture of her in a church, uh, with pastors looking like, um,

a serious Christian, which of course her beliefs would completely undermine that. But that was the portrayal that they had in this image. And the first two thirds of the article are about how inspiring they find her Christian faith specifically. Um, at the, and at one point, you know, they, they barely touched on abortion, almost kind of made an excuse for it and then moved on. So when you look at that and then, you know, that also this week, um,

The Evangelicals for Harris group just kind of put out their first announcement that they're going to be having a speaking engagement. And one of their speakers is the chairman of the board of Christianity Today, a guy named Claude Alexander. Where are they having that speaking? I would love to show up and see if they'll take questions. Maybe I have to look that up. I'm not on the— I was going to say, I have to look it up. I don't remember now. I'm not on their list, Evangelicals for Harris. You're not? No, I'm not on that one.

These people are so disgusting. I'm sorry. Like, again, I'm not one to... What is his name, by the way, the guy that's running it? Claude Alexander, chairman of the board of Christianity Today, is one of the evangelical for Harris speakers. I'll let everyone make their own determinations on that. So, Megan, if you were to list the chief offenders of people that...

That are doing sinister political advocacy in God's name, which I believe is a violation of thou shall not take the Lord's name in vain to carry the Lord's name to do sinister political agendas in the name of God. Who would be the chief offenders? Russell Moore, David French.

I feel like David French is so transparently on the left now that it's actually been something of a blessing because so many of us who were warning about him for so long can now kind of go, you see? And people are like, oh, yeah, okay, we see now. It was so bad when he came out and endorsed Trump.

Kamala Harris last week. But yes, Russell Moore, Christianity Today editor-in-chief, I think he has been a subversive agent for years and years. Danny Akin, people who may not know who he is, but he is the president of one of the largest seminaries in the country, Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary. His seminary was heavily involved in pushing CRT in

pushing sort of DEI initiatives. He was also heavily involved in bringing in climate change activism into the largest Protestant denomination in the U.S. That's the Southern Baptist Convention. So he would be one. I think J.D. Greer is another. And I think part of the reason he's angry is because I sort of detailed his record. And he's trying to say, well, OK, but here's why I did that. Because I think people realize that, you

the smoke screen is clearing and people are seeing what's really been going on. So there's this rush to move to the other side of the Overton window, which is the biblical side of the Overton window. Now that people are starting to realize, hey, all this stuff we were doing for those years, that was actually not biblical. That was man-made legalism. And I think a lot of people are realizing that now. And, you know, when we talk about what's going on with the election,

I hope that someone like you who has a line into the Trump campaign is letting them know that they cannot ignore what's happening with evangelicals because this same really, um,

you have to call it kind of an astroturf operation that was run in 2020, where they did this evangelicals for Biden. And you saw these well-known evangelical leaders and media outlets promoting Joe Biden's supposedly sincere Catholic faith, even though he took all of these stances diametrically opposed to biblical ethics and morality. There's been a lot of analysis showing that just enough evangelical votes in some key

Spring states moved and that they may have given Biden the election in those states. Or you could at least say get over the cheating. I think that's right. And I mean, that's why we did our Believer Summit. And I've been telling the Trump team and they've been open to it. I think that there you can't take the evangelical cohort for granted because there's so much money that is coming in. And there is this weak, unbiblical Christian belief.

agenda that is trying and you say it perfectly subvert the word of God subvert the mission of the church

Yeah. And it has been going on for years. And I think really just in the last few years have the rank and file gotten to a place where we've gone. We're not going to be gaslit anymore on the unbiblical politicking that has been going on. And so now that it's being called out, you're seeing a rush to say, no, we didn't do that. But their words are there in black and white and more than their words.

The IRS 990s are there in black and white. You cannot deny that your organizations, your evangelical organizations, if you're at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission, the Evangelical Environmental Network, the Evangelical Immigration Table, the fact that you took money from people like...

Buddhist eBay founder Pierre Omidyar is in black and white. The fact that you took money from George Soros is in black and white. We know that you are partnering with people who have no interest whatsoever in building up the kingdom of God. And you have been selling out your platforms, your pulpits and your influence in order to give those people access to your sheep. And there needs to be a reckoning for that.

Megan, people can buy your book, purchase your book, final call to action for the audience. Should they continue to go to churches that are led by these types of shepherds? No, you need to get out of those churches. And by the way, the book is now a New York Times bestseller. So help us keep getting the word out because that does help. But no, but you do need to be in church. And I want to say that if you are in one of these churches that has been where your pastor has been using

his pulpit in order to promote progressive politics. No, you absolutely need to get out of those churches, but it doesn't mean stop going to church. Find yourself a faithful church because the body of Christ needs to be built up with all of us faithfully involved in local congregations. So that's probably my biggest word. Nobody here wants to tear down the church or see people stop going. We need a strong, healthy church in America.

Megan Basham, excellent work. Thank you so much. Thanks for having me. Thanks so much for listening, everybody. Email us as always, freedom at charliekirk.com. Thanks so much for listening and God bless. For more on many of these stories and news you can trust, go to charliekirk.com.