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Cleaning Up The Mess

2024/8/15
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Nobody Should Believe Me

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Andrea Dunlop
一名专注于真实犯罪和社会问题的媒体人物和作者。
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Carly Ostler
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Jo
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Jo:本集讲述了Jo在母亲Donna去世后,处理母亲遗物和计划葬礼的经历。这其中包含了清理Donna凌乱不堪的公寓,以及直面与母亲复杂关系的痛苦过程。Jo分享了发现自己童年写给母亲的信件,以及在葬礼上面对那些从未相信她遭受虐待的亲戚朋友的感受。Jo的叙述展现了复杂性创伤和复杂性悲伤的深刻影响,以及在面对虐待性父母的死亡时,幸存者所经历的独特挑战。 Andrea Dunlop:作为节目的主持人,Andrea Dunlop引导Jo分享了她的故事,并采访了复杂性创伤后应激障碍专家Carly Ostler。Andrea Dunlop强调了分享经历对幸存者康复的重要性,并探讨了人们对虐待性父母的复杂情感,以及幸存者在处理虐待性父母的死亡时所面临的独特挑战。Andrea Dunlop还探讨了施虐者隐藏其内心的混乱,以及物质滥用、囤积等不良应对机制。 Carly Ostler:作为一名治疗师,Carly Ostler解释了为什么幸存者会哀悼虐待性父母,以及这种哀悼与哀悼慈爱父母的不同之处。她解释说,婴儿时期对父母的依赖会影响大脑发育,塑造个体对爱的理解和人际关系模式。她还强调了虐待是一种依赖关系,施虐者和被虐者都依赖于这种关系,而被虐者在失去施虐者后,也意味着失去依赖,这可能令人感到迷茫。 Crystal:作为Jo的姐姐,Crystal与Jo一起处理了母亲去世后的善后事宜,包括清理公寓和安排葬礼。她的经历也从侧面反映了家庭关系的复杂性和处理虐待性父母死亡的挑战。

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Jo returns home to plan their mother's funeral and clean up her mess, reflecting on the complexities of grieving for an abusive parent. They discuss the impact of this abuse with therapist Carly Ostler, who explains the unique challenges faced by survivors.

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In the aftermath of Donna’s death, Jo returns home to Hutchinson to plan their mother’s funeral and clean up her mess one final time. As Jo and their sister Crystal sort through the detritus of the filthy, overstuffed apartment where Donna spent her final days, they come across strange artifacts, including letter from Jo’s childhood self. 

We also talk to therapist and Complex PTSD specialist, Carly Ostler about the complexities of grieving for an abusive parent and why they can have an even stronger hold on their children than loving parents.


Help support Jo in their journey: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-jo-heal-support-for-essential-treatments)


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