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Introducing Was I in a Cult?

2024/10/18
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Liz Iacuzzi和Tyler Meesom：本期节目探讨一对一关系中的邪教特征，强调其与一般虐待关系的共通之处，并介绍嘉宾Dr. Nadine Macaluso的经历。他们认为，在虐待性关系中，受害者常常从施虐者那里寻求爱和认可，这与邪教的特征相似。 Dr. Nadine Macaluso：她分享了自己与前夫Jordan Belfort的婚姻经历，这是一种“一对一邪教”。她描述了这段关系中经历的情感轰炸、精神控制、操纵和虐待。她指出，在关系中，她逐渐失去了自我认同，无法表达自己的情感需求。她还详细描述了Jordan Belfort的暴力行为、药物滥用以及她如何不断为他的行为找借口。她强调，这种关系让她感到孤立无助，并最终导致了她精神上的崩溃。 Dr. Nadine Macaluso：她讲述了自己离开Jordan Belfort的过程，以及她在离开后如何重建自己的生活。她强调了治疗在帮助她走出创伤性关系中的重要作用，并分享了她学习设定界限、重建自我认同的经验。她还谈到了自己写书的初衷，以及她如何利用电影宣传的机会来提高人们对创伤性关系和家庭暴力的认识。 Dr. Nadine Macaluso：她呼吁处于类似困境的人应该向他人寻求帮助，并相信自己的感受。她强调了自我同情在走出创伤性关系中的重要作用，并鼓励人们不要隐藏自己的痛苦，而是积极寻求支持和帮助。 Liz Iacuzzi和Tyler Meesom：他们总结了本期节目的主要内容，并再次强调了创伤性关系的普遍性和严重性。他们鼓励听众关注自身的心理健康，并积极寻求帮助。

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The episode introduces the concept of a relationship cult, where one person exerts control over another, often through manipulation and coercion.
  • Cults can exist in one-on-one relationships.
  • Manipulation and coercion are common tactics in relationship cults.
  • Understanding abusive relationships helps understand cults.

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Was I In A Cult? is not your typical cult podcast. Hosted by writer/comedian Liz Iacuzzi and documentary filmmaker Tyler Measom, the duo bring you first-hand stories from real cult survivors— each episode infuses humor, heart, and hope into tales that can otherwise be dark. 

And the guests have not only survived, but transformed their darkest moments into stories of strength. As cult survivors themselves, Liz and Tyler aim to humanize the cult experience. Give it a listen… it may just leave you asking yourself “Wait… was I in a cult?!”

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Dr. Nadine Macaluso joins us today to discuss our first of its kind on this show… a cult of one. Who exactly was her cult leader? None other than “The Wolf of Wall Street,” her ex-husband, Jordan Belfort.  In the movie adaptation of Jordan’s book, “The Wolf of Wall Street,” Dr. Nadine was portrayed by Margot Robbie and had no say in how her life was portrayed. Well, today Dr. Nadine is here to share the truth behind her picture perfect life. On the outside she had beauty, wealth, the doting husband, and two wonderful kids. But today she shares the truth about what was going on behind closed doors: the isolation, the loss of self, the abuse, the control, the manipulation and the gaslighting that kept her in a haze of confusion and pain. But, like every guest on this show, she shares the moment she finally found the strength and courage to walk away for good. 

Now a respected therapist, Dr. Nae emphasizes the importance of therapy in her healing process and destigmatizing the experiences of victims of cult leaders or pathological lovers. A Brooklyn gal at heart, Dr. Nae is as real as they get and was an absolute joy to have on the show. 

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