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S05 Ep01: Sophie Saves Zambia

2025/1/2
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Andrea Dunlop
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Chad Goeller-Sojourner
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Andrea Dunlop: 本集探讨了索菲·哈特曼收养两个赞比亚女孩的故事,其中一个女孩被诊断出患有罕见疾病。作者对索菲的叙述表示怀疑,认为她可能夸大了孩子的病情,并质疑她将自己塑造成救世主的动机。同时,作者也反思了美国医疗体系的不足,以及许多家庭为了支付高昂的医疗费用而不得不公开孩子病情的情况。 Andrea Dunlop还分享了自己姐姐因涉嫌医疗虐待而接受调查的经历,这使得她对索菲的故事更加警惕。她分析了索菲回忆录中对赞比亚的描述,认为其过于负面和片面,缺乏对当地社会和经济发展的客观认识。此外,她还指出索菲在回忆录中频繁地描写自己与上帝的对话,并表达了对上帝的热爱,这与她将自己塑造成救世主的形象相呼应。 在对索菲案的讨论中,Andrea Dunlop还邀请了跨种族收养教练Chad Goeller-Sojourner和赞比亚记者Glory Mishingi来分析跨种族收养的复杂性以及赞比亚“孤儿”的定义。 Chad Goeller-Sojourner: Chad Goeller-Sojourner 指出人们对跨种族收养存在误解,认为白人父母更了解如何抚养黑人孩子。他强调跨种族收养需要付出更多努力和时间,父母和孩子都需要适应。白人父母需要为黑人孩子进入社会做好准备。他认为国际收养存在许多不确定性和潜在问题,例如对孩子背景的了解不足,以及收养家庭可能无法承担将孩子送回原国的费用。他批评了“白人救世主情结”,认为索菲的行为并非帮助当地儿童最有效的方式。 Glory Meshengi: Glory Meshengi 解释了在赞比亚,“孤儿”的定义与美国不同,通常指失去父母或主要监护人的孩子,这与美国人对“孤儿”的理解存在差异。

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What is the central theme of Sophie Hartman's memoir, 'Crowns of Beauty'?

The memoir focuses on Sophie's journey as a young evangelical Christian from Michigan who travels to Zambia, adopts two girls, and portrays herself as both a martyr and savior. It details her deep religious convictions and her experiences in Zambia, often emphasizing her role in 'saving' vulnerable children.

What rare disorder was Sophie's younger daughter diagnosed with?

Sophie's younger daughter was diagnosed with alternating hemiplegia of childhood (AHC), an extremely rare genetic disorder affecting one in a million children. It is progressive and has no cure.

Why did Sophie Hartman face legal charges in 2021?

Sophie Hartman faced second-degree assault charges for allegedly subjecting her daughter to medically unnecessary surgical procedures and restraints. Records indicate her daughter underwent over 474 medical appointments since 2016, raising suspicions of medical abuse.

What challenges did Sophie face during the adoption process in Zambia?

Sophie was under 25 at the time of adoption, which was against Zambian law. Additionally, she was less than 21 years older than her eldest daughter, M, which violated another legal requirement. Despite these hurdles, the adoptions were eventually approved in 2014 and 2015.

What is the cultural context of the term 'orphan' in Zambia?

In Zambia, the term 'orphan' does not necessarily mean a child whose parents are dead. Due to the extended family system, children who lose their parents are often cared for by relatives. Orphanages in Zambia function more like foster homes, providing temporary care until children can reunite with family or become independent.

What criticisms were raised about Sophie's portrayal of Zambia in her memoir?

Sophie's memoir reduces Zambia to scenes of crushing poverty and suffering, which critics argue is unfair and inaccurate. She often describes the country as 'dusty' and hellish, omitting details of its urbanization, economic progress, and cultural richness. This portrayal has been compared to outdated charity advertisements.

What role did religion play in Sophie's life and her decision to adopt?

Sophie's evangelical Christian faith was central to her life and decision to adopt. She frequently describes her conversations with God and views her mission in Zambia as a divine calling. Her memoir is filled with religious fervor, portraying her as a Christ-like figure saving vulnerable children.

What are the complexities of transracial adoption highlighted in the podcast?

Transracial adoption, especially involving white parents adopting Black children, carries significant complexities. Misconceptions include the idea that the adoptee should be grateful, and that any home is better than no home. It requires parents to prepare their children for a world where their lived experiences may differ drastically from their own.

What was the public reaction to Sophie Hartman's story when it first broke?

Sophie's story initially garnered public sympathy and support, with many viewing her as a selfless mother. However, as details of her daughter's extensive medical treatments and the subsequent legal charges emerged, public perception shifted, leading to widespread scrutiny and criticism.

What is the significance of the phrase 'I don't want to get a poke' in the context of Sophie's story?

The phrase 'I don't want to get a poke,' uttered by Sophie's daughter in a non-medical setting, raised red flags. It suggested that the child had a heightened fear of medical procedures, which, combined with the excessive number of medical appointments, hinted at potential medical abuse.

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We begin the season by delving into Sophie Hartman’s 2016 memoir about her time in Zambia, *Crowns of Beauty, *where we learn about how a young woman from Michigan came to be the adopted mother of two Zambian girls by the age of 25. We learn about Sophie’s deep roots in evangelical Christianity and her state of mind prior to and during the adoptions of M and C; examining the way she portrays herself as both a martyr and savior. We’re also joined by Chad Goller-Sojourner, a performance artist and transracial adoption coach, to help listeners understand the complexities of transracial adoptions. 


Links and Resources:

Chad Goller-Sojourner’s Sitting in Circles with Rich White Girls: Memoir of a Bulimic Black Boy*** ***will be adding show dates in spring 2025. Click HERE) for more information. 

More information on Chad’s background with transracial adoption: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1q76t_IpbJil2vWQVsNnw7f8Ms8p_lstK/view)

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