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S2 Ep1050: Bill Kristol: Something Worth Fighting For

2025/5/26
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Tim Miller: 我认为在阵亡将士纪念日,我们应该反思这个节日的真正意义,而不是只关注特朗普的言论。我们需要思考我们所追求的更伟大的目标,而不仅仅是美国的军事实力。我希望通过纪念那些为国家牺牲的军人,提醒大家我们是为了更高的理想而奋斗。 Bill Kristol: 我认为最近的战争并不成功,这使得阵亡将士纪念日更加令人忧郁。尽管如此,我们仍然应该坚持为自由、民主和自治而战的信念。特朗普的政策让我更加坚信,为自由而战是这个国家的基本原则,放弃这一原则不仅会影响我们在国外的行动,也会影响我们在国内的价值观。即使过去的战争存在失败,我们追求更伟大目标的信念不应该动摇。

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The episode begins with a Memorial Day conversation between Tim Miller and Bill Kristol, touching upon personal experiences and reflecting on the complexities of war and remembrance. They discuss the changing sentiments surrounding Memorial Day, acknowledging the melancholic aspects of honoring fallen soldiers, especially in the context of recent wars.
  • Memorial Day reflections
  • Complexities of war and remembrance
  • Melancholy and hope

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Despite our missteps in some of our more recent wars, we were fighting to bring freedom, democracy, and self-governance to others. Now, Trump's mercantilist agenda is showing us what it looks like to not have an American-led world order. And even after Russia's largest aerial assault on Ukraine since the war began, he still won't threaten Putin—only Zelensky. Meanwhile, just looking at the math alone, the reconciliation bill is alarming.

**Bill Kristol **joins Tim Miller for a Memorial Day pod. *show notes *