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Susan Glasser: Giving Away the Store to Putin

2025/2/18
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Tim Miller: 我认为特朗普政府对乌克兰的政策是出卖,而不是里根式的交易。特朗普对乌克兰的勒索和对普京的绥靖,是对乌克兰人民的背叛,也是对美国价值观的践踏。我感到非常失望和担忧。 Susan Glasser: 作为一名记者和历史学家,我认为特朗普对普京的态度始终如一,那就是偏爱美国的对手,攻击美国的盟友。特朗普政府对乌克兰的政策,实际上是要把美国出卖给俄罗斯。欧洲领导人对特朗普的政策感到震惊和沮丧,他们意识到自己被欺骗了。我认为特朗普政府对乌克兰的政策是敲诈勒索,他要求乌克兰支付5000亿美元的回报,并要求美国拥有乌克兰一半的稀土矿产。这是对乌克兰的掠夺,也是对国际准则的破坏。我认为特朗普已经使北约的第五条成为一纸空文,因为没有人相信美国会为了保护爱沙尼亚而开战。我认为普京已经赢得了所有可能的尊重,因为唐纳德·特朗普再次当选。

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This chapter analyzes Trump's alleged negotiations with Putin, focusing on the potential consequences for Ukraine and the broader geopolitical landscape, particularly concerning the reactions and concerns of European leaders.
  • Trump's alleged deal with Putin includes a ceasefire and elections in Ukraine before a final agreement.
  • Europeans are shocked and dismayed by Trump's actions, viewing the U.S. as an unreliable ally or even an adversary.
  • The potential consequences include undermining NATO and jeopardizing European security.

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Trump is A-OK with all the murder and mayhem Russia has unleashed on Ukraine, and he's making a mockery of all his enablers who claimed he'd do a Reagan-esque kind of deal. Instead, Ukraine wasn't even invited to the "peace" talks, while Trump tries to impose an extortion deal on the Ukrainian people for daring to fight back against the Russian invasion. Plus, the danger to our constitutional system if the main guy in the Oval Office defies a court order, the real live threat to the First Amendment from the White House's lockout of the Associated Press, and the origin story of Trump's obsession with Greenland. 

Susan Glasser joins Tim Miller.

*show notes * It Took Trump Only Twenty-four Days to Sell Out Ukraine) Tim's new Gen Z politics show, "FYPod") The NYT story on the Panama hotel that Susan mentioned) Larry Diamond's piece in Persuasion )